Different pronounciations exist in variant dialect but "aitch" is the spelling and putting an "h" in front of it makes no sense on any level. The reason it deserves special trouncing is that it is an example of a "hyper-correction" orginally used by ill-informed smart-arses who were trying to correct people saying "aitch". Saying it makes sense to use an h in H is also stupid since we would also have to say say fef for F, lel for L, mem for M, nen for N and bloody wubble-you!
The English got the pronunciation of H from the French who write it as Hache but pronounce it as ache, the Normans brought it to England and the Anglo-Saxons tried to spell the way the French pronounced hache (a-che) and not the way it was written. The people of northern Britain and Ireland, namely the Catholics have retained the H in aich and therefore use Haich. These days both Aich and Haich are acceptable.
Yes, in the Oxford English Dictionary it says aitch but in others, haitch too. It was confirmed both were right and in Northern Ireland, Catholic schools teach haitch and not aitch and it isn't wrong. You can't disagree with school education.
@G6Matthew Good comeback...It only took you a month to come up with it. You're clearly a very clever person and I should just accept that you have beaten me :(
@bigbren123 I have a life and wow.. were you waiting all that time on me to reply? You must always love to prove people wrong. Btw, beaten you? This isn't a competition you saddo :L
@G6Matthew Sat around waiting to reply or maybe when you finally replied I had an email telling me... "Saddo". How old are you? This is an online debate, so if you don't have anything worth talking about please go away. Haytch/Haitch = Uneducated.
@bigbren123 Why don't you go to an online debating website? Because this is FUCKING YOUTUBE! BROADCAST YOURSELF! Not.. debate on channel comments and if you're going to argue about opinions, yes you have an opinion but don't go fucking around on a global broadcasting website saying " Uneducated" because you couldn't think of anything so that's all you had to say to me. Well done, i'll have goosebumps when I receive a reply for your fantastic comebacks (being sarcastic if you didn't know :L :L)
@G6Matthew I say uneducated becuase it is true. If people were educated more about the history of the English language then they would know that it is wrong to pronounce it haytch/haitch.
British English dictionaries give aytch as the standard pronunciation for the letter H. However, the pronunciation haytch is also attested as a legitimate variant.
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Haytch is a standard pronunciation in Irish English and is increasingly being used by native English-speaking people all across the country, irrespective of geographical provenance or social standing. Polls have shown that the uptake of haytch by younger native speakers is on the rise.
@Vlakpage You say that Haytch is standard pronounciation in Ireland, how can this be when is no standardised form of English anywhere in the world? FACT!!!
Just because it say something in a dictionary, does that make it fact? If I released my own dictionary and said it is pronounced YAYTCH, would that make it true?
It is supposed to be pronounced aytch, but do to the reasons mentioned above some people now pronounce it Haytch.
@bigbren123 You can shout "fact" in caps with three exclamation marks how much you want but that doesn't make it true. Maybe try asking Jo Kim from BBC Pronunciation Unit where they found it?
BTW I didn't cite from dictionary but if I did use some recognized one, it would surely make more sense than your personal one.
How is it supposed to be pronounced somehow when you argue there is no standardised form of English and dictionaries doesn't make a fact? Your logic fails miserably here.
@bigbren123 So you reason is just personal preference and your feeling of annoying is just subjective. You can't say I don't like, therefore it is wrong and we must use something else.
My reasoning is purely logical (and I don't claim it is perfect solution), does it make sense to write words with letters you don't pronounce? Or even spell the letter without the letter itself? Yeah, French is full of it, but why should English?
You should accept and respect other people's preferences.
@Vlakpage Lol. The point I'm trying to make is that due to the fact that there is no official regulator for the English language like they have in France (Académie française), variations of how things are supposed to be pronounced have slipped in. English is great language, but it's people like you that say HAYTCH that are ruining it. I didn't realise that the BBC owned English? I bet you also say EXPRESSO! So it conclusion, it is pronounced AYTCH.
@bigbren123 Yes, there is no single global correct version of English but there are local regulations, duh. Anyway, you didn't tell me how am I ruining the language which, by your words, doesn't have official regulator. And yes, I like EXPRESO but with only one S. Are you still mad?
@Vlakpage Haha this is going to go on forever! So what are these local regulations then? I've never heard of them. You're ruining English by saying "Haytch". It's just so cringey everytime I hear people say it!! What's an expreso? In conclusion Haytch is really annoying and common! OMG, I bet you also say should of instead of should have!
Haytch/Haitch comes from Ireland. The letter H in the Irish language is pronounce Heis
People in Ireland speak Hiberno English Which is English with a lot of Irish loan words. So when the two languages came together Haytch/Haitch was created.
There are around 24,400 people in Birmingham that consider themselves Irish, so probably why you hear haytch/haitch there so much.
Can I just say, 'doubleyew' does not begin with a 'w', 'eff' doesn't start with an 'f', 'ell' 'em' and 'en' all begin with 'e' not 'l' 'm' or 'n', 'kew', not with a 'q', 'ess' not 's', 'ex' not 'x'. So why should 'aitch' begin with an 'h'? It makes no sense to me that that is how people justify saying it wrong.
@clairehelenjohnson I agree with your sentiment, but a possible explanation could be that 'f', 'l', 'm', 'n', 's', and 'x' still contain their letter in the pronunciation, even if it's at the end. 'Aitch' doesn't have a "huh" sound anywhere, so people think that it must be Haitch. And "doubleyew" would be difficult to add a "wuh" sound to.
unfortunately my explanation doesn't provide a satisfactory answer for the pronunciation of 'q' .... there's no "kw"
While we're on the subject, "an history" is bullshit unless you're a Cockney who pronounces it as "an 'istory". If you pronounce the "h", it's "a history", not "an". The same goes for hotels, hypocrites and anything else beginning with the letter "h".
I feel like murdering every nun in Christendom when idiots say, 'this phenomena'. It's, 'this phenomenon', you dur-brains! And why do morons who can hardly string a sentence together without adding the inevitable, 'yer know wot I mean?', why do they use the French word 'genre' all the time instead of the perfectly good English word, 'style'? They should all be pithed on the spot. Get back to your council houses.
@marksoutof10 I dont live in A 'Ouse' And ride my 'Orse', On the way to my bedroom i dont walk down my 'allway' whilst wearing my 'At'. Bloody get your own language right Poms, The letter H makes a sound just like the rest of the alphabet!
Hey im Aussie and I know we bastardise your language to some degree (as do all english speaking countries), but the majority of people I know pronounce it correctly.
Of course, Tony should really have shot Luke earlier, when he said ".. stop shooting people for saying things wrong", when it should have been "wrongly" - and he should have shot himself before that, for misusing the word "acronym".
David should have shot himself earlier as HHH isn't an acronym it's an initialism. Things like FBI, NHS and BBC are initialisms because you say the individual letters while things like FIFA, NATO and AIDS are acronyms because you say them as words.
All those who insist that Haich is correct, based on it's pronunciation on, then w should be pronounced as wubbleyoo
alfiesgirluk 3 weeks ago
But...he shot himself in the head!
cyanman123 3 weeks ago
Different pronounciations exist in variant dialect but "aitch" is the spelling and putting an "h" in front of it makes no sense on any level. The reason it deserves special trouncing is that it is an example of a "hyper-correction" orginally used by ill-informed smart-arses who were trying to correct people saying "aitch". Saying it makes sense to use an h in H is also stupid since we would also have to say say fef for F, lel for L, mem for M, nen for N and bloody wubble-you!
DRDFOX 1 month ago
Aitch is the only correct pronunciation, find it in the "Oxford English Dictionary".
no argument
tomtresco 2 months ago
People who say Haitch have simply been taught bad English....end of
tomtresco 2 months ago
The English got the pronunciation of H from the French who write it as Hache but pronounce it as ache, the Normans brought it to England and the Anglo-Saxons tried to spell the way the French pronounced hache (a-che) and not the way it was written. The people of northern Britain and Ireland, namely the Catholics have retained the H in aich and therefore use Haich. These days both Aich and Haich are acceptable.
TOMCATALEXANDER 2 months ago
@TOMCATALEXANDER Yes :) CORRECT! :D
G6Matthew 2 months ago
@TOMCATALEXANDER Did you just make that up?
bigbren123 2 months ago
@bigbren123 No
TOMCATALEXANDER 2 months ago
@TOMCATALEXANDER Well you should be able to show me a supporting document then???
bigbren123 2 months ago
@TOMCATALEXANDER I just heard somebody say "haitch" and I chundered everywah!
bigbren123 2 months ago
@bigbren123 Some may chunder when they hear you say Aitch
TOMCATALEXANDER 2 months ago
@TOMCATALEXANDER No, only aitch is acceptable but I fear haitch will soon become accepted as is on the increase so pedants beware
alfiesgirluk 3 weeks ago
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TOMCATALEXANDER 2 months ago
Well that's interesting nice argument
eprice2424 2 months ago
Aitch pronounce H like the letter. I should know that's my last name.
TheYo1984 3 months ago
@TheYo1984 hahahaha you idiot hahahahaha
tomtresco 2 months ago
My friend used to insist that it was 'haitch not aitch'...we are no longer on speaking terms.
randomgirl22695 4 months ago 3
@randomgirl22695 your friend is a moron
tomtresco 2 months ago
Yes, in the Oxford English Dictionary it says aitch but in others, haitch too. It was confirmed both were right and in Northern Ireland, Catholic schools teach haitch and not aitch and it isn't wrong. You can't disagree with school education.
In the end, BOTH are right!
G6Matthew 4 months ago
@G6Matthew When has anything in done in Northern Ireland been the right way to go about things...
bigbren123 4 months ago
@bigbren123 Read what you said again. "Anything in done in."
G6Matthew 2 months ago
@G6Matthew Good comeback...It only took you a month to come up with it. You're clearly a very clever person and I should just accept that you have beaten me :(
bigbren123 2 months ago
@bigbren123 I have a life and wow.. were you waiting all that time on me to reply? You must always love to prove people wrong. Btw, beaten you? This isn't a competition you saddo :L
G6Matthew 2 months ago
@G6Matthew Sat around waiting to reply or maybe when you finally replied I had an email telling me... "Saddo". How old are you? This is an online debate, so if you don't have anything worth talking about please go away. Haytch/Haitch = Uneducated.
bigbren123 2 months ago
@bigbren123 Why don't you go to an online debating website? Because this is FUCKING YOUTUBE! BROADCAST YOURSELF! Not.. debate on channel comments and if you're going to argue about opinions, yes you have an opinion but don't go fucking around on a global broadcasting website saying " Uneducated" because you couldn't think of anything so that's all you had to say to me. Well done, i'll have goosebumps when I receive a reply for your fantastic comebacks (being sarcastic if you didn't know :L :L)
G6Matthew 2 months ago 4
@G6Matthew I say uneducated becuase it is true. If people were educated more about the history of the English language then they would know that it is wrong to pronounce it haytch/haitch.
bigbren123 2 months ago
@bigbren123 Uneducated as he says- PREJUDICE
G6Matthew 2 months ago
@G6Matthew I'll*
bigbren123 1 month ago
@G6Matthew
Wrong. Aitch is the only correct pronunciation, hence why you find it in the "Oxford English Dictionary*.
uktransplantedyank 4 months ago 3
@uktransplantedyank LOL Noo.. just no
G6Matthew 4 months ago
@G6Matthew
Not wanting to believe that something is true doesn't make it untrue. It's aitch - end of story.
uktransplantedyank 4 months ago 2
@uktransplantedyank Exactly!! They're both right!
G6Matthew 4 months ago
@G6Matthew
Uh, no. Only "aitch" is correct.
uktransplantedyank 3 months ago
He said anyways not "anyway" at 00:45... what a lousy grammar nazi.
Julez2770 5 months ago
@Julez2770
Actually, he said 'anyway, it's', but quickly so the words merged together.
mrwho995 5 months ago
@Julez2770
Actually, he said 'anyway, it's', but quickly so the words merged together.
mrwho995 5 months ago
IT WAS NEVER HAITCH, IT ISN'T NOW, AND IT NEVER BLOODY WILL BE! >:(
GuyRodger 5 months ago 3
it makes sense to spell H with actual H in it
Vlakpage 6 months ago
@Vlakpage It makes sense to pronounce it properly...
bigbren123 6 months ago
British English dictionaries give aytch as the standard pronunciation for the letter H. However, the pronunciation haytch is also attested as a legitimate variant.
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Haytch is a standard pronunciation in Irish English and is increasingly being used by native English-speaking people all across the country, irrespective of geographical provenance or social standing. Polls have shown that the uptake of haytch by younger native speakers is on the rise.
So what's your problem?
Vlakpage 6 months ago
@Vlakpage You say that Haytch is standard pronounciation in Ireland, how can this be when is no standardised form of English anywhere in the world? FACT!!!
Just because it say something in a dictionary, does that make it fact? If I released my own dictionary and said it is pronounced YAYTCH, would that make it true?
It is supposed to be pronounced aytch, but do to the reasons mentioned above some people now pronounce it Haytch.
Haytch = Annoying!
How do we stop it?
bigbren123 6 months ago
@bigbren123 You can shout "fact" in caps with three exclamation marks how much you want but that doesn't make it true. Maybe try asking Jo Kim from BBC Pronunciation Unit where they found it?
BTW I didn't cite from dictionary but if I did use some recognized one, it would surely make more sense than your personal one.
How is it supposed to be pronounced somehow when you argue there is no standardised form of English and dictionaries doesn't make a fact? Your logic fails miserably here.
Vlakpage 6 months ago
@bigbren123 So you reason is just personal preference and your feeling of annoying is just subjective. You can't say I don't like, therefore it is wrong and we must use something else.
My reasoning is purely logical (and I don't claim it is perfect solution), does it make sense to write words with letters you don't pronounce? Or even spell the letter without the letter itself? Yeah, French is full of it, but why should English?
You should accept and respect other people's preferences.
Vlakpage 6 months ago
@Vlakpage Lol. The point I'm trying to make is that due to the fact that there is no official regulator for the English language like they have in France (Académie française), variations of how things are supposed to be pronounced have slipped in. English is great language, but it's people like you that say HAYTCH that are ruining it. I didn't realise that the BBC owned English? I bet you also say EXPRESSO! So it conclusion, it is pronounced AYTCH.
bigbren123 6 months ago
@bigbren123 Yes, there is no single global correct version of English but there are local regulations, duh. Anyway, you didn't tell me how am I ruining the language which, by your words, doesn't have official regulator. And yes, I like EXPRESO but with only one S. Are you still mad?
Vlakpage 5 months ago
@Vlakpage Haha this is going to go on forever! So what are these local regulations then? I've never heard of them. You're ruining English by saying "Haytch". It's just so cringey everytime I hear people say it!! What's an expreso? In conclusion Haytch is really annoying and common! OMG, I bet you also say should of instead of should have!
bigbren123 5 months ago
@bigbren123 it's due not do!
G6Matthew 4 months ago
@Vlakpage
Just because other people do it doesn't make it okay or correct.
mrwho995 5 months ago
Haytch/Haitch comes from Ireland. The letter H in the Irish language is pronounce Heis
People in Ireland speak Hiberno English Which is English with a lot of Irish loan words. So when the two languages came together Haytch/Haitch was created.
There are around 24,400 people in Birmingham that consider themselves Irish, so probably why you hear haytch/haitch there so much.
bigbren123 6 months ago
WHAT SHOW WAS THIS ON?
GuyRodger 7 months ago
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Grammar Nazis are the good Nazis.
GuyRodger 7 months ago
It doesn't actually bother me but since it goes on about being 'correct', HHH is not an acronym, it's an initialism.
JPritkin 7 months ago
This is the same as Grammar Nazi :D
StandingRedPanda 8 months ago
hahaha. Just like Hamlet.
Joe22c 8 months ago
@RarelyEvil you're right. Not many know that.
ben9DB 8 months ago
HHH is not an acronym; it's an initialisms! LASER is an acronym, because you can say it as a word. You can't say HHH as a word!
RarelyEvil 8 months ago 7
@RarelyEvil
That's just what I was thinking.
mrwho995 7 months ago
Just ask William Regal about his matches with Tribble Haich.
joeevil5000 9 months ago
It's actually "for saying things WRONGLY", (not 'wrong') as it's an adverb.
kierondublin 9 months ago
@kierondublin 'Wrong' is an adverb too.
number1drummerman 9 months ago
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propertyofranger 9 months ago
Excellent!!!!!
alfiesgirluk 9 months ago
Can I just say, 'doubleyew' does not begin with a 'w', 'eff' doesn't start with an 'f', 'ell' 'em' and 'en' all begin with 'e' not 'l' 'm' or 'n', 'kew', not with a 'q', 'ess' not 's', 'ex' not 'x'. So why should 'aitch' begin with an 'h'? It makes no sense to me that that is how people justify saying it wrong.
clairehelenjohnson 9 months ago
@clairehelenjohnson I agree with your sentiment, but a possible explanation could be that 'f', 'l', 'm', 'n', 's', and 'x' still contain their letter in the pronunciation, even if it's at the end. 'Aitch' doesn't have a "huh" sound anywhere, so people think that it must be Haitch. And "doubleyew" would be difficult to add a "wuh" sound to.
unfortunately my explanation doesn't provide a satisfactory answer for the pronunciation of 'q' .... there's no "kw"
Sikosm 8 months ago
While we're on the subject, "an history" is bullshit unless you're a Cockney who pronounces it as "an 'istory". If you pronounce the "h", it's "a history", not "an". The same goes for hotels, hypocrites and anything else beginning with the letter "h".
hybrid572 9 months ago
@hybrid572 Except for words beginning with a silent H, like an honour, an heir, an hour etc. Get it right if you're going to rant about it.
them000ch 9 months ago
@them000ch "If you pronounce the h".
If you're going to criticise a comment for being factually incorrect, check whether it actually is first, dipshit.
hybrid572 9 months ago
I feel like murdering every nun in Christendom when idiots say, 'this phenomena'. It's, 'this phenomenon', you dur-brains! And why do morons who can hardly string a sentence together without adding the inevitable, 'yer know wot I mean?', why do they use the French word 'genre' all the time instead of the perfectly good English word, 'style'? They should all be pithed on the spot. Get back to your council houses.
ammason 11 months ago
God dam pom's it haytch.
everyonesugly1 1 year ago
@everyonesugly1 God damn Aussies it's AITCH!!!
marksoutof10 10 months ago
@marksoutof10 I dont live in A 'Ouse' And ride my 'Orse', On the way to my bedroom i dont walk down my 'allway' whilst wearing my 'At'. Bloody get your own language right Poms, The letter H makes a sound just like the rest of the alphabet!
everyonesugly1 10 months ago
@marksoutof10
Hey im Aussie and I know we bastardise your language to some degree (as do all english speaking countries), but the majority of people I know pronounce it correctly.
133maxiboy 8 months ago
@everyonesugly1
Just look it up in a dictionary. Aitch - noun, the letter H, h.
At least Americans and Canadians get it right.
DrJupiter8 10 months ago 4
its aitch
zapper822 1 year ago 4
its Haitch
trueirishdude 1 year ago
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@trueirishdude No it fucking isn't.
marksoutof10 10 months ago
@trueirishdude
Wrong. It's aitch. "Aitch" is correct Oxford English - "haitch" is slang.
uktransplantedyank 10 months ago
Of course, Tony should really have shot Luke earlier, when he said ".. stop shooting people for saying things wrong", when it should have been "wrongly" - and he should have shot himself before that, for misusing the word "acronym".
OldishTim 1 year ago 4
haha ur right
zapper822 1 year ago
David should have shot himself earlier as HHH isn't an acronym it's an initialism. Things like FBI, NHS and BBC are initialisms because you say the individual letters while things like FIFA, NATO and AIDS are acronyms because you say them as words.
Experiment47 1 year ago 3
@Experiment47 That's what some people would say but there is no correct definition.
fr0ber 1 year ago
in northern ireland catholics say 'haitch' and protestants say 'aitch'. on the whole.
sirvidia 1 year ago
TBH, when I hear Haitch, I want to shoot people. Not just the person saying it, but EVERYONE. Srsly
SupermewX300 1 year ago
@SupermewX300 same
Autonova 1 year ago
Could not agree with him more.
kinglara400 1 year ago 38
Never found Mitchell that funny but I take my hat off to him on this one.
UnevenScrotum 1 year ago
kinda like Dear Sister from SNL, but better.
hotneo7 1 year ago
that actually sounds like David Mitchell in real life
anjingkuda 1 year ago
He is not overreacting. I'm serious.
ellexar 1 year ago 43