At 0:58 it's not Victoria with Alix, nor is it Irene. The lady in question is Princess Helena Victoria, daughter of Princess Helena (Princes Christian). She was known in the family as "The Snipe" because of her big nose.
A truly extraordinary woman. She saw so many of her family suffer throughout her life. First the tragic deaths of her little brother and her mother, then the murders of her sisters by the Bolsheviks in Russia. Her husband dismissed at First Sea Lord during WWI due to questions about his loyalty to Britain. Her son George dying so young from cancer and her granddaughter Cecile (Duchess of Hesse, Prince Phillip's sister) dying with her family in a plane crash on her way to a family wedding.
She must have nerves of steel: her sister Elizabeth murdered; her mother died of diphtheria; her brother in law Nicolas II murdered; her brother in law Sergei murdered; her sister Alix murdered; nephews and nieces murdered; her eldest son George died young; her son Lord Louis murdered &c.. she was brave
OH, so THAT'S who sat on the left, in Prince Charles's christening picture! Like Most Royal ladies, she was an absolute BEAUTY in her youth, and VERY DIGNIFIED later on! At 1:07, her profile looks almost like Pss. Margaret's! In the following pic, she also looks a bit like Pss. Margaret! Thanks, other posters, for all the wonderful info I never knew before!
The Lady in the nuns habit is Grand Duchess Elizabeth of Russia who was Lady Victoria Mountbatten elder sister, she had married Grand Duke Serge of Russsia who was the Governor of Moscow untill he was assasinated in 1905, his wife took the veil afterwards and devoted her life to the aid of the poor untill she too was assasinated during the bolshevik revolution. She was recently canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church as Saint Elizabeth of Russia.
Did she pass on the gene for haemophilia? I found a page somewhere that showed all of the children (and descendants) of Queen Victoria who did and did not. Anyone know? Thank you.
Victoria's son Leopold had the disease and through her daughters the gene was passed into the Spanish, Russian and German royal families. The English escaped because they are descended by Victoria's son rather than any of her daughters.
Actually Prince Phillip is a descendant of one of Queen Victorias daughters, granddaughter and great granddaughter (all females and possible carriers) and although he's obviously not a haemophiliac since little is known on how the gene is inherited (no one knows how Queen Victoria got it) there is a big fat chance that he reintroduced it into the royal family for it to show up in later generations. Phillip is one of the few living descendants of centuries of inbreeding just like Victoria.
Yes but the gene passes from the mother. Since a male receives his single X-chromosome from his mother, the son of a healthy female silently carrying the deficient gene will have a 50% chance of inheriting the disease; and if his mother is affected with hemophilia, he will have a 100% chance of being a hemophiliac. A female must must receive two deficient X-chromosomes, one from her mother and the other from her father (who must therefore be a hemophiliac himself) to inherit the disease.
Everything you say is true and science knows it, but the problem is what they don't know about this gene. Here in Spain the issue was raised now that the heiress presumptive is a girl, since botth the King and the Queen are Victoria's descendants, and the answer to the question of haemophilia being back in the sapnish royal house is always the same: They just don't know for sure, but is possible, just as it is in the British House.
The issue is that two Spanish princes contracted the disease and died. Clearly, the gene is within the family and yes, Princess Leonor could be a carrier. But I wonder of the Price of Asturias has a genetic test before he married? Such things are now possible and recommended for those with a family history of inherited diseases. This is an unforeseen problem when the law of primogeniture was changed. It could resurface in Britain in those branches of the family already affected.
@mcmlxvi Not technically true. A lot is know of how the disease is inherited, and ample infomation abounds on the internet. A male cannot silently carry the haemophilia gene - either he has the disease or is "clean". Assuming that Philip is not haemophiliac himself, he cannot have "reintrodued" it into the House of Windsor.
Sitting down from left to right are: Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine
(later Lady Victoria Mountbatten), Queen Elizabeth II with baby son Charles and Queen Mary (Mary of Teck) Elizabeth's grandmother. Standing in the back right behind Queen Elizabeth is King George VI. circa 1948 (the year Prince Charles was born)
yeah i love her! she is great person. No wonder that such a handsome Man like Louis fell in love with her.. ^^ She was much much much better than this Lilie!
i think Victoria was just a good daugther, wife, sister and Mother and later Grandmother.
An tribute about Victoria - how great! :) I think, she had much charism and has't looked that odd, people sometimes said. She surely was an admirable woman! 5 stars :)
yeah that was right! she was from all her sisters, the strongest and she was like Mother to her siblings after the death of her Mother.. But than she feel in love with Louis, who showed, that the life is not over.
I always thought she was rather odd looking. I've wondered if she was a red head. So very pale she looks in black and white. I take issue though with the photo at 0:59. I think that is Alix of Hesse on the right, and on the left, I think, is Helena Victoria of Shleswig Holstein.
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blacksultan85 9 months ago
At 0:58 it's not Victoria with Alix, nor is it Irene. The lady in question is Princess Helena Victoria, daughter of Princess Helena (Princes Christian). She was known in the family as "The Snipe" because of her big nose.
TimAltoona 10 months ago
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vayalatyytwhitekga 1 year ago
A truly extraordinary woman. She saw so many of her family suffer throughout her life. First the tragic deaths of her little brother and her mother, then the murders of her sisters by the Bolsheviks in Russia. Her husband dismissed at First Sea Lord during WWI due to questions about his loyalty to Britain. Her son George dying so young from cancer and her granddaughter Cecile (Duchess of Hesse, Prince Phillip's sister) dying with her family in a plane crash on her way to a family wedding.
manuelherrera777 1 year ago
@manuelherrera777, her youngest sister May also died of diptheria, which claimed the life of her mother.
Muirmaiden 1 year ago
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richfincm 1 year ago
I heard that she swore a lot and smoked cigar !
She must have nerves of steel: her sister Elizabeth murdered; her mother died of diphtheria; her brother in law Nicolas II murdered; her brother in law Sergei murdered; her sister Alix murdered; nephews and nieces murdered; her eldest son George died young; her son Lord Louis murdered &c.. she was brave
papoocanada 1 year ago
around 1.02 the photo of Alix of Hesse and one of the sisters that sister is princess Irene NOT Princess Victoria .Thanks
lababoc 2 years ago
OH, so THAT'S who sat on the left, in Prince Charles's christening picture! Like Most Royal ladies, she was an absolute BEAUTY in her youth, and VERY DIGNIFIED later on! At 1:07, her profile looks almost like Pss. Margaret's! In the following pic, she also looks a bit like Pss. Margaret! Thanks, other posters, for all the wonderful info I never knew before!
UTAOUB 2 years ago
The Lady in the nuns habit is Grand Duchess Elizabeth of Russia who was Lady Victoria Mountbatten elder sister, she had married Grand Duke Serge of Russsia who was the Governor of Moscow untill he was assasinated in 1905, his wife took the veil afterwards and devoted her life to the aid of the poor untill she too was assasinated during the bolshevik revolution. She was recently canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church as Saint Elizabeth of Russia.
AXA0032 2 years ago
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richfincm 2 years ago 2
Yes. Victoria Mountbatten was Prince Philip's maternal grandmother.
Anyacat3 2 years ago
Did she pass on the gene for haemophilia? I found a page somewhere that showed all of the children (and descendants) of Queen Victoria who did and did not. Anyone know? Thank you.
richfincm 2 years ago
Victoria's son Leopold had the disease and through her daughters the gene was passed into the Spanish, Russian and German royal families. The English escaped because they are descended by Victoria's son rather than any of her daughters.
Anyacat3 2 years ago
Actually Prince Phillip is a descendant of one of Queen Victorias daughters, granddaughter and great granddaughter (all females and possible carriers) and although he's obviously not a haemophiliac since little is known on how the gene is inherited (no one knows how Queen Victoria got it) there is a big fat chance that he reintroduced it into the royal family for it to show up in later generations. Phillip is one of the few living descendants of centuries of inbreeding just like Victoria.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago 4
Yes but the gene passes from the mother. Since a male receives his single X-chromosome from his mother, the son of a healthy female silently carrying the deficient gene will have a 50% chance of inheriting the disease; and if his mother is affected with hemophilia, he will have a 100% chance of being a hemophiliac. A female must must receive two deficient X-chromosomes, one from her mother and the other from her father (who must therefore be a hemophiliac himself) to inherit the disease.
Anyacat3 2 years ago
Everything you say is true and science knows it, but the problem is what they don't know about this gene. Here in Spain the issue was raised now that the heiress presumptive is a girl, since botth the King and the Queen are Victoria's descendants, and the answer to the question of haemophilia being back in the sapnish royal house is always the same: They just don't know for sure, but is possible, just as it is in the British House.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago
The issue is that two Spanish princes contracted the disease and died. Clearly, the gene is within the family and yes, Princess Leonor could be a carrier. But I wonder of the Price of Asturias has a genetic test before he married? Such things are now possible and recommended for those with a family history of inherited diseases. This is an unforeseen problem when the law of primogeniture was changed. It could resurface in Britain in those branches of the family already affected.
Anyacat3 2 years ago
@mcmlxvi Not technically true. A lot is know of how the disease is inherited, and ample infomation abounds on the internet. A male cannot silently carry the haemophilia gene - either he has the disease or is "clean". Assuming that Philip is not haemophiliac himself, he cannot have "reintrodued" it into the House of Windsor.
CarolusSecundus 9 months ago
who's this in the video @ 1:47 ?
richfincm 2 years ago
Looks like the Windsors in 1948 after the birth of Charles.
cc1945 2 years ago
Sitting down from left to right are: Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine
(later Lady Victoria Mountbatten), Queen Elizabeth II with baby son Charles and Queen Mary (Mary of Teck) Elizabeth's grandmother. Standing in the back right behind Queen Elizabeth is King George VI. circa 1948 (the year Prince Charles was born)
mcmlxvi 2 years ago
yeah i love her! she is great person. No wonder that such a handsome Man like Louis fell in love with her.. ^^ She was much much much better than this Lilie!
i think Victoria was just a good daugther, wife, sister and Mother and later Grandmother.
She loved her family very much!
R0rykiss1990 2 years ago
An tribute about Victoria - how great! :) I think, she had much charism and has't looked that odd, people sometimes said. She surely was an admirable woman! 5 stars :)
LadyMountbatten 2 years ago
yeah that was right! she was from all her sisters, the strongest and she was like Mother to her siblings after the death of her Mother.. But than she feel in love with Louis, who showed, that the life is not over.
R0rykiss1990 2 years ago
So mea culpa for this mistake. Of the Hessian sisters, the beauties were Ella and Alix but I think Victoria was the strongest of all. Great Lady
lostsplendour 2 years ago
I always thought she was rather odd looking. I've wondered if she was a red head. So very pale she looks in black and white. I take issue though with the photo at 0:59. I think that is Alix of Hesse on the right, and on the left, I think, is Helena Victoria of Shleswig Holstein.
saxm 2 years ago 3