This is a very good video. Hearing guys within the industry pour shit on the "internet fans" (or "smart fans") is annoying by itself. But it's even more annoying when these same "internet fans" internalise these criticisms and start "admitting" that "we don't know shit" or whatever.
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Sad video. Someone wants to go on a rant because they feel they had something to do with Disco Inferno getting over? Come on! I am ashamed to say I listened to this video because, trust me, you are not good enough to be a part of any wrestling company.
Right before Crockett sold to Turner would make it the year of 1988, and even by then JCP was still good stuff. It was declining, no doubt.. but still nowhere near 'terrible'. WCW's first year in existence (1989) was one of their very best ever!
I HUGELY disagree with that JCP and early WCW were "just there". The Crockett years of '85-'88 were mostly AWESOME!! WCW from 1989-1995/'96 (before becoming REALLy HUGE) was often times better than the WWF from a purely overall product standpoint. Not as successful, obviously, but still quality stuff.
I am trying to remember what I said in this video, but I think i was talking about right before JCP sold to turner..I guess I should watch the video again.
31 mins. Why do you think you know what your talking about. You dont know nothing. Your not working as a wrestler but your ego is saying you are. You guys just know what you see on tv and read on the web. Every wrestler is right about what they think. They travel all the time, have to pay for their own hotels and food and much more I dont know about. One more thing Disco inferno had to pay a couple grand for a wrestling school and he worked hard to get to the top.
i didnt really watch it i was just sayin its too long for a shit video of some shit fan who thinks he knows everything. some of you on here really need to get a life
Ok this goes out to the fucking haters of wrestling. Why do you waste your time searching and watching the vids only to write that it is fake(which we all already knew)and is gay(which is wrong). Quit wasting our time and space with your dumb ass comments. God Damn you people piss me off. I dont care that you hate wrestling. I think you deserve your opinion. But stop wasting my and everyone elses time with the same dumb fucking ass comments. Thank you and have a nice fucking day.
Absolutely agreed! Wrestling's fake. NO FUCKING SHIT! Yeah there are a lot of idiots that come on here and waste not only our time but there's as well. So it's fake & scripted so are TV Shows & movies yet you don't hear anybody bitching and moaning about it being fake or more moronic "Gay". Stuipid assholes, I swear!
Dude no1 gives a fuck what you think. If you think its gay fine. thats your wrong fucking opinion. But why do you waste your time searching and watching these videos and commenting on them. Oh by the way we all know it is fake but we watch it because its entertaing.
I think that the goal of a mainstream wrestling promotion is to please everyone where as the indy promotions goal is to please the wrestling fan. I also see the mainstream promotion as a jack of all trades but a master of none.
Triple H went to smackdown so he could be with his wife and kids more because the smackdown schedule would allow him to see them. Apparently he knew he was being drafted months before it happened. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
you know since you said that the business does change these top guys who are changing it should know if this change in wrestling is good or bad. Let me ask you a question you think the wwe/wwf is better today or ten years ago?
You said or did say you join wrestling forums, to chat and talk about wrestling. And most of them have "Be The Booker" or a different name to it were you create, and wright your own shows. You don't know how many internet wrestling fans would mark out, to see you right shows. From WWE, to Japan, anything and you could wright it.
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Anyone who sat down and actually watched all half an hour of this loser talking on the internet like he knows something about the business is a geek. This guys got too much time on his hands.
I LOVE it! There was nothing more annoying then an entertainer (because let's face it, that's what wrestlers, and indeed most professional athletes, are) discounting my opinion on what is actually entertaining.
Plus, it ran down that shit head Glenn Gil-suckcock, which automatically makes it awesome. I still don't understand how someone who at his best was insignificant to the world of wrestling was given essentially a job in finding out who's worthwhile in a 'major' wrestling company...
most professional athlethes are not entertainers, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are sports man. Their profession is a legit sport and they are in the top level of that. They are not entertainers.
Oh, look at the silly person in denial!!! So cute.
You think for FIVE SECONDS that if people didn't find baseball, football, American football, basketball, and fuck even GOLF(?!) entertaining to watch that they'd get TV deals, multi-million dollar contracts, and big deals made out of them?
Now, maybe what we find entertaining is the 'pure sport' that you were talking about, but the key word is ENTERTAINING! They're glorified entertainers, skills and athleticism be damned.
I say wait and see what happens. If the product somehow takes a gigantic nose dive in quality, then there is a problem. But at the end of the day, Vince McMahon has final say on EVERYTHING that gets put on his product, good or bad, so I don't having Freddie there will make much of a difference one way or the other.
If anything, its a plus because it raises eyebrows and catches interest.
The guy knows jack shit. I'll tell you hisattitude. "If you aren't on television, then you have to wrestle perfect until you are". And this doesn't pertain to your video other thna it being Disco Inferno, himself. The guy came down to FPWA and through my match, Pretty Fly's match, Maxwell's match, Carnage's match AND Son of Sycaly's match with Jack Evan's(which was really good) and he ripped on all of us. Kay we're a bunch of guys from the Fl indies plus Evans. Lay the fuck off, dude.
U were spot on about telling a good story in wrestling, Bret Hart Bulldog was a great match because it was telling a great story, TNA need to get more indy talent becuase I am sick of arguing about TNA being a ex-wwe talent roster when it isn't
why use a system at all? Can't you just say, "I liked this match" or "I didn't like this match" or "This match was fucking amazing" or "This match was one of the worst I've ever seen"
And if you'd have watched the video (which I doubt you did), you'd have heard him say that the only reason he does stars is because his subscribers wanted him to. He used to do just what you suggested but the people who watched his videos wanted a basis of comparison.
yeah but what I'm saying is why do you need stars to compare matches.
I mean can't I just say for example: "The Main event to WMXX was awesome. I would rank that one up there among the greatest matches in Mania history such as Shawn/Razor, Hogan/Warrior, Austin/Bret ETC."
My problem with stars is that its very hard to hold all matches by the same grading standard because all matches are different & there are various styles & ways to do a match.
well I'm not specifically talking about Tslay specifically, but in general its just weird to me to see people arguing over if a match should be 4* or 4 1/2*. Who gives a fuck?
I read his comment and it still doesn't make me understand the appeal of using stars. I mean my God, enough people messaged Tslay and asked him to use it? I just don't understand the point.
Obi Wan Kenobi quote: "Who is the bigger fool. The fool or the fool who follows him"
You can all talk about how bad WWE & TNA are, but it really doesn't matter what they do or what they put on their TV. Most of you are going to spend your money and watch them any way, and I honestly think some watch it just for the purpose of finding something to complain about.
I think I got a clue what you're saying. For example the fans saying Stone Cold Shark Boy sucks and has a bad gimmick but his merchandise sales
On the other hand fans saying Shelton Benjamin can draw and is good but people don't listen to us because we have never been in the buisness so we don't know what we are doing.
I could be wrong but I think that's the message, long as hell though
great vid truthslayer, it does bug me aswell how these promoters look down their noses at us fans and say we know jack squat about wrestling. how do they know that??? if they took the time to think about what we are saying then they wud realise that what we says makes us knowledgable of the current status of wrestling, just cause they have the job of wrestling promoter doesn't mean they have a good knowledge of wresting just suitable for that postition
Now I cannot wait until Gilbertti responds via his weekly excuse for a column...He will probably nitpick your video and pick out the stuff that only someone who has worked in the business would know about and ignore that 99.9% of what you stated in this video was spot on.
Awesome video, you pretty much covered everything that needed to be said by the fans. I have been a wrestling fan since the late 90s and I will continue to watch because like yourself, I am a big wrestling fan and I applaud anyone that comes on here to speak their minds about the business. I feel we have every right to speak what's right and what's wrong with the way things are in any organization. It doesn't necessarily mean that we hate the product as a whole, we just want it to get better.
The thirty minute time had me worried, but this was a pretty good video.
IMO its a case like back in Elementary School, when you had a sub teacher. The regular teacher said if one kid is bad for the sub the whole class would stay in for recess. You had to shut up the naughty kid as best as you could, but he'd still get in trouble and you'd all get the punishment.
The minority of people on here who talk crap ruin the credibility of people who get the business as reliable critics.
What I don't get is, for example, why the HELL is The Great Khali in the main event at SummerSlam? Either there's a large number of fans that want to see that or the WWE is ignoring us. The fans don't boo him because he's a heel, they boo him because he's shit. Would it really have hurt business to have had HHH vs Jeff Hardy and had a run-in or something so it didn't hurt either guy?
hold on what did jim crockett jr have to do with wcw when it started i though he was elected as head of the nwa after he sold it too turner i actually liked early wcw just aslong as ole anderson or dusty rhodes wasnt booking it i mean robocop with sting wtf is that
This might sound dumb, but at least WWE actually hired somebody who is a fan of the show. WWE has hired so many people who know nothing about wrestling and don't even like it. So at least Freddie is a long time fan. Hell, maybe he'll do some good stuff. If not, then he needs to get his wife out there !
Actualy I agree with you. At least he is a fan and being a fan he might be able to get guys to do what fans, even if its just casual fans, want to see.
I'm in agreement about Freddie Jr. Because he is a life long fan like many of us, maybe he can give McMahon and those in creative input on what they want. I love how people bashed WWE for bring in a celebrity to be in the creative team, but as long as he stays behind the scenes and WWE doesn't have him wrestle or put a title on him, then I see no problem with giving him a shot. I mean he can't do any worse than Russo and Mantell at this point.
Disco is a tool. He's just a hired kiss ass on TNA's payroll. Where does he have room to criticize Danielson? He can only dream of ever being as great a wrestler as Bryan Danielson.
They have to see that the wrestling fans want the business to thrive and continue on for years to come. So no one's going against them, just pointing out flaws which they should capitolize on. They also half to see their like any other t.v. show. No one really wants to watch after a season/year of shows. Like truth slayer and the internet wrestling community you stay because they love it.not to mention the only reason they have money in their pockts is because of all of us.
Great video TSlay good on you standing up for the fan, you made a lot of great points. I have been watching since the late '89 and I think I have the right to criticize when I disagree with something considering I'm 21 that's a long time fan.
I love the 1-5 star rating system, I always disliked Disco and I think as a person/agent Glenn Gilberti appears to be a complete tool.
and ya. i really don't know how to take this video. i think you have a valid point with your argument, but at the same time I don't know why you're acting like jeff jarrett and vinnie mac themselfs are subscribed to your channel.
i really doubt anyone inside the wrestling business worth mentioning watches our videos and pays attention to our opinion.
they wrote off the smart fan decades ago. they only resort to us when they're in ratings trouble and need new ideas.
Wow, finally someone from the Wrestling YOUTUBE committee spoke the damn truth. TSlay, u nailed a bullseye with this vid. I will say it too, I don't know the business as much as most of these people that speak their minds on here. I watch wrestling cause, like u, I am a Wrestling fan. I have been a fan close to 20 years now. It doesn't matter what organization it is. Thanks for speaking the truth.
Ill admit, I dont know shit about wrestling. But I do know that I started watching RAW again when I heard HHH was gone. I can also tell you if a match sucked. In fact, as a fan I am more qualified to say wheter a match was good or not, because I am the target of said match.
Even modern physics can be understood by reading a couple of books and solving some problems, you don't need to go into the lab and play here and there and blow somethings up and then make a theory and make history THEN people will say "oh you get it". If modern physics can be understood by "reading" then wrestling is no different.
We saw it long enough to what is a good match and what is a bad match, it is that simple!
great rant. agreed with most of your points, would love to see some ROH wrestlers coming into wwe to promote their style of wrestling. Seen some matches on the Fight Network and really like the style they use.
Most of the net fans feel the need to be critics and try to put themselves over as experts.
My question is, whatever happened to just watching wrestling for the sake of having fun? I mean seriously, its two guys in their underwear pretending to fight each other. Is it really worth getting so upset about?
I say just sit down, grab some beers & chips, watch the show, and if aren't liking it, change the channel or pop in a DVD of something you do like.
that is not the point. The point is we have every right. To let the world know what we like and dislike. Other wise nothing changes and people go out of business. By changing the channel or putting in a dvd. You do the samething, you let people know. Hey this is not really all that interesting. Just look at Russo. He's been in the business for how long? Yet has pulled some of the stupidest moves ever. the man helped kill off a major promotion.
Why would I sit there and spend two hours watching a show I don't like?
If you watch the show and then go on the net and talk about how bad it was, you still watched the show, which only helps which ever promotion it was that you watched.
Let's just stop at that first sentence: fans by their very nature are critics. End of story, no need to discuss it. When you sit down and take watch of something and come to a conclusion about it, whether you voice it out for others to hear or not, you are being a critic. You're coming to a decision on whether you liked or disliked that very item you just witnessed.
Yeah, but then if someone hated the show and critqued it to death, those same people turn right back around and watch it next week.
I have hated many movies in my life time. I could go on and on and on about how much I hated Superman Returns for example. However, I didn't go back into the threatet to go watch it, I didn't buy the DVD, and its going tot ake some major convincing for me to go see the sequel.
Now I realize wrestling is different. Wrestling is episodic television, so 1 episode isn't necessarily be all end all.
Lets say I watched ECW 1 week & didn't like it. OK fine. It happens. 2nd week. Still didn't like it, but it could get better. 3rd week, still not liking it. Before you know it, 6 months have passed & Im still watching a show that I don't like. All I've done is waste 2 hours of my week for six months & done nothing but bitch about how bad it is. Whats the point?
But what if you felt very passionate at one time about the product?...Only to later see how it's being flushed down the toilet...you wouldn't be a crtitic about the current content and try to help it change for the better?
At one time, you "felt" passionate about the product, which implies that you don't anymore.
Would I still be dating a girl if I didn't love her anymore? Hell no.
The best criticism is to ignore it completely and do something else to pass the time! If fans stopped watching, the WWE would change things in a hearbeat. If TNA did something that drove half their audience away, they'd stop doing it.
I did. He talked about how much he like dTNA back in 2005. THREE YEARS AGO!!!
Acording to him things went downhill for him around the time they got onto SpikeTV. That's fine. It's his opinion, but after three years of "HOPE" and you still aren't enjoying the product, don't you think its time to give up?
1. the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best
Yea it would be easy to give up and stop hoping for the best, but you should realize that certain people are really passionate about wrestling and will not stop watching, no matter what happens! Watch instantclassic's recent video series, if it is that easy for you to quit watching, then maybe you really didn't have a love for wrestling in the first place.
"Now a wrestling product...is that really worth losing sleep over and getting all stressed out and upset over." Who said anybody was losing sleep concerning a current wrestling product? And yes it is worth getting upset over if you really want the product to change so that the company can grow.
I could find flaws with any wrestling product or TV show period. But who wants to do that. I watch TV shows & movies with the desire to enjoy them, and if I don't, then time to move on.
No show is perfect, but if you aren't going into the show with the intention of having fun, then you're cheating youself out of what makes Pro Wrestling great! Basically I'm saying that I shouldn't ever have to feel like I'm forcing myself to watch a show.
I don't watch the show every week....When I decide to watch, I also go into the show with a clear head, but when so many thing are being thrown at me that just don't make sense, it's really hard to not walk away thinking WTF just happend? TNA's main objective should be to compete with the WWE in the future and the current show WILL NOT help them achieve their goal.
Then why watch? Seriously, can't you find something more constructive to do on a Thursday night?
I just don't understand why you would watch a show you don't generally enjoy. What's the point?
I watch wrestling with the purpose of having fun and enjoying the show. I think alot of Internet fans watch the show with the intention of finding things wrong with the show, when they should probably think positively and try to enjoy it. And if they dont, then stop watching.
Have you ever heard of constructive criticism? You may think that "Internet fans" are always nitpicking and complaining about things, but the majority of us also offer great ideas that could maybe benefit TNA...Hence this video and hence instantclassic's recent videos.
Nothing wrong with saying things you didn't like about the show, but when it gets to a point where thats all you do, and you get to a point where you forget why you are even watching the show, then its probably time to stop.
I should know. Raw was unbearable in 2003. Just complete crap, and I kept watching it until one day I thought "Why?" And yes there are other things to watch. Hell in the Fall there's FOOTBALL!!
I was there when Danielson got his trial vs. Cade in Oakland. The crowd was quiet at first, but he got over in a BIG way by the time the match was over.
I thought it was stange that he won with Cade getting a big push soon after, but it was a great match. And if the WWE were to sign him it be a major coup for the WWE. He doesnt need a gimmick. He wins folks over with skill. And that's rare for the WWE.
Everybody has a right to state their opinion, but they are just that. Opinion.
Tslay or anybody else posting here most likely, has ever been in a backstage meeting for any wrestling show whether it be WWF/E, WCW, TNA, ECW or whatever. None of us have any idea what goes on backstage in order to put on a show.
Alot of these guys make it sound so easy to put on a wrestling show, and it certainly isn't.
then with that reasoning oh wise one. Why in the great holy goddess name. Should I give wwe or tna my time or money? If I'm going to act in a wise fashion. And not take the crap they try to pass off as "wrestling" at times or other wise? If I don't care for a product what is wrong with me giving a reason for it? that doesn't make me any less of a person or a fan. And I refuse to take crap from people who say it does.
Why should you give TNA or WWE your money? I hope you aren't! If you don't like the shows you shouldn't!
I'm not saying you can't say why you don't like a show. I just don't understand why anybody would say they hate something and THEN CONTINUE TO WATCH IT.
"I hate (insert name of wrestling company) I think it sucks blah blah blah"
(tunes into the show again the next week)
"I hate that show blah blah"
Its like an abused woman going back to an abusive boyfriend
well I watch the shows everyweek because I love wrestling so much and I want to watch the shows and I want to love them. To say we shouldn't watch shows we dont like is saying we should give up on wrestling apart from select promotions and shows you enjoy. It is a stupid comment and one which annoys me.
OK, I love Batman. He's my favorite superhero/comic book character. Does that mean I should waste my Saturday mornings watching that crappy "The Batman" cartoon because I love Batman. HELL NO!!!
If I think WWE/TNA/ROH/ABC/XYZ sucks, I'm not going to sit there and watch. I'll watch what I like, and I've got plenty of old tapes to enjoy. I tune in a few months later to see if things improve and see what happens.
that comparison doesn't work as Batman is in its original form a comic book and not a cartoon. Wrestling is and will always be a show. WHat should I do go buy a sticker book and fill that in for two hours on a monday night? If you don't like a wrestling show we still watch because we love wresting and want to enjoy it. As I write this in fact I am watching iMPACT! and literally shouting things out in annoyance now and again, but why am i still watching? Because i love wrestling and WANT to enjoy
You could always go out with friends on a Monday night. There's no rule that says you have to stay home on a Monday, Thursday, or Friday night.
And why doesn't the comparrison work. If it has Batman's name on it, I'm going to at least give it a chance. If its wrestling, I am going to at least give it a chance, but if after a few viewings, I am not pleased, TV goes off. It's that simple.
And what analogy would you use when people are discussing a topic that you're likely to provide a negative tone about the subject matter? Smile and walk away from the conversation just so you can spare some feelings?
This is a very good video. Hearing guys within the industry pour shit on the "internet fans" (or "smart fans") is annoying by itself. But it's even more annoying when these same "internet fans" internalise these criticisms and start "admitting" that "we don't know shit" or whatever.
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Sad video. Someone wants to go on a rant because they feel they had something to do with Disco Inferno getting over? Come on! I am ashamed to say I listened to this video because, trust me, you are not good enough to be a part of any wrestling company.
koldkase77 2 years ago
Good job. Take a break and drink some alcohol. haha
Gun2Nutz 2 years ago
Didn't Jim Cornette start the ratings system?
RoderickStrong 2 years ago
Right before Crockett sold to Turner would make it the year of 1988, and even by then JCP was still good stuff. It was declining, no doubt.. but still nowhere near 'terrible'. WCW's first year in existence (1989) was one of their very best ever!
Abyono 3 years ago
I HUGELY disagree with that JCP and early WCW were "just there". The Crockett years of '85-'88 were mostly AWESOME!! WCW from 1989-1995/'96 (before becoming REALLy HUGE) was often times better than the WWF from a purely overall product standpoint. Not as successful, obviously, but still quality stuff.
Abyono 3 years ago
I am trying to remember what I said in this video, but I think i was talking about right before JCP sold to turner..I guess I should watch the video again.
TSlay1974 3 years ago
u suck dude, quit
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31 mins. Why do you think you know what your talking about. You dont know nothing. Your not working as a wrestler but your ego is saying you are. You guys just know what you see on tv and read on the web. Every wrestler is right about what they think. They travel all the time, have to pay for their own hotels and food and much more I dont know about. One more thing Disco inferno had to pay a couple grand for a wrestling school and he worked hard to get to the top.
weightlifter12 3 years ago
Thank you for this rant
johnblazeacw 3 years ago
Lol freddie prince jr???? is a writer for wwe???? wow
rellik4life 3 years ago
you definatly deserve a job of some sort in wrestling
WillMillion15 3 years ago 11
i figured WWE would rather no names over know indy talent because maybe they don't have to pay them as much.
Mr1700 3 years ago 2
Freddie Blows
FingerGunProductions 3 years ago
Disco Inferno has always struck me as an idiot, since the WCW days. Now I see he wasn't just acting.
TheBuck26 3 years ago
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honmbn 3 years ago
1:13 lol wat the fuck
jebb1274 3 years ago
I agree 100%. i have nothin much to say coz you said it all. As for Disco Inferno, the only reason i remember him is because of Halloween Havoc 97.
allday87 3 years ago
7:50-7:53...what the f*cK was that!? HAHAHAHA!!!
wvang0013 3 years ago
1 thing that i was ill say is the wrestling needs to try and get back
bigt84015 3 years ago
great rant TS agreed on many things
grubbs89 3 years ago
who the hell is disco infernal? Danielson definetly deserves to be in the spotlight somewhere, doesnt matter, either TNA or WWE.
mrbill1000 3 years ago
thats half hour of my life ill never get back
PompeyRule15 3 years ago
Then why the hell did you watch all of it then? God, if the first few seconds were bad, just click the "back" button.
Oye.
lightning116 3 years ago
i didnt really watch it i was just sayin its too long for a shit video of some shit fan who thinks he knows everything. some of you on here really need to get a life
PompeyRule15 3 years ago
fuck 31 minutes
elmnt03 3 years ago
great video,
I've watched some you tube internet fans who talk absolute nonsense, such as bill1985 for one example.
But you really know your stuff, been watching since about wrestlemania.
Disco inferno is an idiot, he has as much knowledge about the sport as buff bagwell!
You are right, wrestling promoters should listen to their fans on the internet a hell of a lot more!
gingertom316 3 years ago
Disco inferno loves cocks in his ass
buttfrank 3 years ago 10
If I believed in god I would say, amen.
InRing 3 years ago
GREAT COMMENT!!!
TSlay1974 3 years ago
I sense sarcasm....
Gambitfan 3 years ago
7:49....What was that lol.
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ajona1234 3 years ago
this is a fucking long clip!
geraintjones94 3 years ago
pops are pops lol
ringofedwin 3 years ago
Ok this goes out to the fucking haters of wrestling. Why do you waste your time searching and watching the vids only to write that it is fake(which we all already knew)and is gay(which is wrong). Quit wasting our time and space with your dumb ass comments. God Damn you people piss me off. I dont care that you hate wrestling. I think you deserve your opinion. But stop wasting my and everyone elses time with the same dumb fucking ass comments. Thank you and have a nice fucking day.
TNAECWWWEfan 3 years ago 2
Yeah. The so called "fans" bash the products enough for everybody! We don't need any outsiders getting in on it!
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Absolutely agreed! Wrestling's fake. NO FUCKING SHIT! Yeah there are a lot of idiots that come on here and waste not only our time but there's as well. So it's fake & scripted so are TV Shows & movies yet you don't hear anybody bitching and moaning about it being fake or more moronic "Gay". Stuipid assholes, I swear!
Big2thaTony 3 years ago 2
I love your spaz attack at 7:53 XD
Great Vid, 5 stars
Richiepookinshoo 3 years ago
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Wrestling is gay and it's a fake piece of shit.
XIRaTeDRIX 3 years ago
Dude no1 gives a fuck what you think. If you think its gay fine. thats your wrong fucking opinion. But why do you waste your time searching and watching these videos and commenting on them. Oh by the way we all know it is fake but we watch it because its entertaing.
TNAECWWWEfan 3 years ago
Very good video (stands up and claps)
cacainmypants 3 years ago
I think that the goal of a mainstream wrestling promotion is to please everyone where as the indy promotions goal is to please the wrestling fan. I also see the mainstream promotion as a jack of all trades but a master of none.
smfrocks247 3 years ago
Triple H went to smackdown so he could be with his wife and kids more because the smackdown schedule would allow him to see them. Apparently he knew he was being drafted months before it happened. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
loui4444 3 years ago 2
where did you hear this? Its been reported by most people that he didn't know untill right before.
TSlay1974 3 years ago
I had read somewhere on a newsboard that he knew about it long beforehand.
I wouldn't be surprsied. I mean hell he sits in the creative meetings. The switch was almost definately his idea.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
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Shut up you nerd seriously get off you're computer and get a life you fag 31 Mins?
Tslay1972 3 years ago
time to bury his ass again. ain't that right Tslay1972
xfearslovex 3 years ago
You're calling him a nerd and a fag, yet you have the name Tslay1972. Something here just doesn't add up.
ReddVision 3 years ago
This one before you is TSlay1974... the other is an imposter named TSlay1972. Only by a difference of one digit... is different.
rutcher27 3 years ago
I know, What I meant was, he talks all this shit about Truth Slayer, yet he named his account after him.
ReddVision 3 years ago
people like him... even RFFS, or Burial Bury... only wants views... but the means for such is that they don't care for much 'cept themselves.
rutcher27 3 years ago
why don't you go play with some gasoline and an open flame.
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago
you know since you said that the business does change these top guys who are changing it should know if this change in wrestling is good or bad. Let me ask you a question you think the wwe/wwf is better today or ten years ago?
burby8100 3 years ago
great video bro WOW if a wrestling agent doesnt know who bryan danielson is its his job to aquire talent isnt it? baffles me
lexer777 3 years ago
Good ass video worth every minute maybe we all shouldve did this but were to lazy to but hey nice job ass always
coolnerd2736 3 years ago
I wonder if Disco realizes that TNA employs 2 of the guys on youtube.
EXXXTACY69 3 years ago
who
HotSpicyTasteGreat 3 years ago
You said or did say you join wrestling forums, to chat and talk about wrestling. And most of them have "Be The Booker" or a different name to it were you create, and wright your own shows. You don't know how many internet wrestling fans would mark out, to see you right shows. From WWE, to Japan, anything and you could wright it.
ecwforeverhardcore01 3 years ago
nice vid truthmaster!
i got to 25 minutes!
wtfwwe 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Anyone who sat down and actually watched all half an hour of this loser talking on the internet like he knows something about the business is a geek. This guys got too much time on his hands.
ramerriam 3 years ago
amazing video man. i agree with u 100%
NJxwf 3 years ago
Bryan Danielson is probobly along with Joe, the only wrestler I currently care about...
WAR DANIELSON!
miamimagicians 3 years ago
Miek Quackenbush > Samoa Joe
RoderickStrong 3 years ago
I LOVE it! There was nothing more annoying then an entertainer (because let's face it, that's what wrestlers, and indeed most professional athletes, are) discounting my opinion on what is actually entertaining.
Plus, it ran down that shit head Glenn Gil-suckcock, which automatically makes it awesome. I still don't understand how someone who at his best was insignificant to the world of wrestling was given essentially a job in finding out who's worthwhile in a 'major' wrestling company...
Gambitfan 3 years ago
most professional athlethes are not entertainers, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are sports man. Their profession is a legit sport and they are in the top level of that. They are not entertainers.
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
Oh, look at the silly person in denial!!! So cute.
You think for FIVE SECONDS that if people didn't find baseball, football, American football, basketball, and fuck even GOLF(?!) entertaining to watch that they'd get TV deals, multi-million dollar contracts, and big deals made out of them?
Now, maybe what we find entertaining is the 'pure sport' that you were talking about, but the key word is ENTERTAINING! They're glorified entertainers, skills and athleticism be damned.
Gambitfan 3 years ago
fantastic vid tslayer
Hoppydude 3 years ago 3
Oh an in defense of Freddie.
I say wait and see what happens. If the product somehow takes a gigantic nose dive in quality, then there is a problem. But at the end of the day, Vince McMahon has final say on EVERYTHING that gets put on his product, good or bad, so I don't having Freddie there will make much of a difference one way or the other.
If anything, its a plus because it raises eyebrows and catches interest.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Dude...all the things you said is the truth.
Xera077 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
shut up 30 year old virgin truthslayer
DenGual10 3 years ago
go suck bill and gougs dick you tna mark
Hoppydude 3 years ago
The guy knows jack shit. I'll tell you hisattitude. "If you aren't on television, then you have to wrestle perfect until you are". And this doesn't pertain to your video other thna it being Disco Inferno, himself. The guy came down to FPWA and through my match, Pretty Fly's match, Maxwell's match, Carnage's match AND Son of Sycaly's match with Jack Evan's(which was really good) and he ripped on all of us. Kay we're a bunch of guys from the Fl indies plus Evans. Lay the fuck off, dude.
RDizzle12345 3 years ago
Disco obviously feels threatened over the possibility of losing his job. Excellent rant.
Innovator8 3 years ago
jim cornette started the * ratting
y2jericho22 3 years ago
Freddie Prinze Jr.? What's next? Lindsay Lohan? I heard George W. Bush will soon be looking for a new job, so there is always the WWE.
RoderickStrong 3 years ago
there is no way Vince would do it.... oh good goddess... No Vince!
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago
U were spot on about telling a good story in wrestling, Bret Hart Bulldog was a great match because it was telling a great story, TNA need to get more indy talent becuase I am sick of arguing about TNA being a ex-wwe talent roster when it isn't
bossman103 3 years ago
PAWPS ARE PAWPS! PAWPS ARE PAWPS!
;)
bobpalindrome 3 years ago
OK if the star system is crap what other system would you use?
copcopps 3 years ago
why use a system at all? Can't you just say, "I liked this match" or "I didn't like this match" or "This match was fucking amazing" or "This match was one of the worst I've ever seen"
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
And if you'd have watched the video (which I doubt you did), you'd have heard him say that the only reason he does stars is because his subscribers wanted him to. He used to do just what you suggested but the people who watched his videos wanted a basis of comparison.
Cuda123087 3 years ago
yeah but what I'm saying is why do you need stars to compare matches.
I mean can't I just say for example: "The Main event to WMXX was awesome. I would rank that one up there among the greatest matches in Mania history such as Shawn/Razor, Hogan/Warrior, Austin/Bret ETC."
My problem with stars is that its very hard to hold all matches by the same grading standard because all matches are different & there are various styles & ways to do a match.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Did you even read Cuda's comment?
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
well I'm not specifically talking about Tslay specifically, but in general its just weird to me to see people arguing over if a match should be 4* or 4 1/2*. Who gives a fuck?
I read his comment and it still doesn't make me understand the appeal of using stars. I mean my God, enough people messaged Tslay and asked him to use it? I just don't understand the point.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Obi Wan Kenobi quote: "Who is the bigger fool. The fool or the fool who follows him"
You can all talk about how bad WWE & TNA are, but it really doesn't matter what they do or what they put on their TV. Most of you are going to spend your money and watch them any way, and I honestly think some watch it just for the purpose of finding something to complain about.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago 2
I think I got a clue what you're saying. For example the fans saying Stone Cold Shark Boy sucks and has a bad gimmick but his merchandise sales
On the other hand fans saying Shelton Benjamin can draw and is good but people don't listen to us because we have never been in the buisness so we don't know what we are doing.
I could be wrong but I think that's the message, long as hell though
UnlimitedProdiction1 3 years ago
are u serious?!!! Freddie Prince Jr? A Writer for WWE? Hell's freezing over as we speak!
smartguy3008 3 years ago
WATCH THIS VIDEO....
Stylesclash360 3 years ago
great vid
monster1555 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
geek
saintsg4 3 years ago
great vid truthslayer, it does bug me aswell how these promoters look down their noses at us fans and say we know jack squat about wrestling. how do they know that??? if they took the time to think about what we are saying then they wud realise that what we says makes us knowledgable of the current status of wrestling, just cause they have the job of wrestling promoter doesn't mean they have a good knowledge of wresting just suitable for that postition
borthmanavenged 3 years ago
Awesome vid. I just watched all 30 minutes of it. I need to have less free time.
Thewwekiller 3 years ago
Video of the Year.
ForsakenLyre 3 years ago
TSlay "this guy" Disco Inferno's name is Glenn Gilberti...and Disco is dead LOL
pjdbro 3 years ago
Now I cannot wait until Gilbertti responds via his weekly excuse for a column...He will probably nitpick your video and pick out the stuff that only someone who has worked in the business would know about and ignore that 99.9% of what you stated in this video was spot on.
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
great vid.
and i think that it might be good to point out that glenn gilberti's last TV match was a loss in a squash mtach to Abyss
rohtnawwe1 3 years ago
Wow, I thought this would be way too long, but those were 30 minutes well spent. Great vid!
Omniceros 3 years ago
It's because of old school thinking that WCW went under
CesarManiaX 3 years ago
damn i listned to the hole thing ( that means good job
joemoma92 3 years ago
lol great vid, disco has no brain
y2jbrock 3 years ago
T-Slayer, your points were right on.
CadillacL 3 years ago
Awesome video, you pretty much covered everything that needed to be said by the fans. I have been a wrestling fan since the late 90s and I will continue to watch because like yourself, I am a big wrestling fan and I applaud anyone that comes on here to speak their minds about the business. I feel we have every right to speak what's right and what's wrong with the way things are in any organization. It doesn't necessarily mean that we hate the product as a whole, we just want it to get better.
GoddessOfTheDark88 3 years ago
wow man i prolly agree on 90% of the video
31 minute video though wow you covered alot
pandillatime2 3 years ago
fantastic vid!
astone08 3 years ago
The thirty minute time had me worried, but this was a pretty good video.
IMO its a case like back in Elementary School, when you had a sub teacher. The regular teacher said if one kid is bad for the sub the whole class would stay in for recess. You had to shut up the naughty kid as best as you could, but he'd still get in trouble and you'd all get the punishment.
The minority of people on here who talk crap ruin the credibility of people who get the business as reliable critics.
Nic1700 3 years ago 3
wow i only have one 1 word to say about this video
favourited
ELIMINATORRRR 3 years ago
Awesome vid I agree with everything.
What I don't get is, for example, why the HELL is The Great Khali in the main event at SummerSlam? Either there's a large number of fans that want to see that or the WWE is ignoring us. The fans don't boo him because he's a heel, they boo him because he's shit. Would it really have hurt business to have had HHH vs Jeff Hardy and had a run-in or something so it didn't hurt either guy?
solemnpears 3 years ago 2
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this is the worst video of all time yawn,go fucking watching ring of hobo's you bum
ricflairfucknsucks 3 years ago
Judging by your name you're not to be taken seriously.
solemnpears 3 years ago 7
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same could be said for you queer
ricflairfucknsucks 3 years ago
you're the queer, queer! Get a life
Big2thaTony 3 years ago 2
Phwar 31 minutes! I'll go and get a drink before I sink my teeth into this.
solemnpears 3 years ago
hold on what did jim crockett jr have to do with wcw when it started i though he was elected as head of the nwa after he sold it too turner i actually liked early wcw just aslong as ole anderson or dusty rhodes wasnt booking it i mean robocop with sting wtf is that
worstwrestlingever 3 years ago
I was just throwing them into gather as one company even though I know they where two In most peoples mind they still see them as one.
TSlay1974 3 years ago
This might sound dumb, but at least WWE actually hired somebody who is a fan of the show. WWE has hired so many people who know nothing about wrestling and don't even like it. So at least Freddie is a long time fan. Hell, maybe he'll do some good stuff. If not, then he needs to get his wife out there !
ratnick 3 years ago 4
Actualy I agree with you. At least he is a fan and being a fan he might be able to get guys to do what fans, even if its just casual fans, want to see.
TSlay1974 3 years ago
I'm in agreement about Freddie Jr. Because he is a life long fan like many of us, maybe he can give McMahon and those in creative input on what they want. I love how people bashed WWE for bring in a celebrity to be in the creative team, but as long as he stays behind the scenes and WWE doesn't have him wrestle or put a title on him, then I see no problem with giving him a shot. I mean he can't do any worse than Russo and Mantell at this point.
WWETNAFan1979 3 years ago
Thank god you got that partnership (or whatever the fuck it was) man. 31 minutes of TSlay is a great way to start the day. Great vid.
Cuda123087 3 years ago 2
indy shows are actually good?????????????????
worstwrestlingever 3 years ago
Disco is a tool. He's just a hired kiss ass on TNA's payroll. Where does he have room to criticize Danielson? He can only dream of ever being as great a wrestler as Bryan Danielson.
Shaggy6386 3 years ago 2
steve austin actually said in an interview that he watches these shooters on youtube
worstwrestlingever 3 years ago
Disco Fever.
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
yeah yeah yeah yeah
worstwrestlingever 3 years ago
your rite man, the product is meant for us (fans in general) if we can't judge it, who can?
orbite11 3 years ago
Damn Tslay, 31 minutes? You might aswell have your own TV show. "Slaying the Truth with Truthslayer!"
Jpwn3r 3 years ago 4
They have to see that the wrestling fans want the business to thrive and continue on for years to come. So no one's going against them, just pointing out flaws which they should capitolize on. They also half to see their like any other t.v. show. No one really wants to watch after a season/year of shows. Like truth slayer and the internet wrestling community you stay because they love it.not to mention the only reason they have money in their pockts is because of all of us.
drnllbnks 3 years ago
Great video TSlay good on you standing up for the fan, you made a lot of great points. I have been watching since the late '89 and I think I have the right to criticize when I disagree with something considering I'm 21 that's a long time fan.
I love the 1-5 star rating system, I always disliked Disco and I think as a person/agent Glenn Gilberti appears to be a complete tool.
seancarletonzero 3 years ago
and ya. i really don't know how to take this video. i think you have a valid point with your argument, but at the same time I don't know why you're acting like jeff jarrett and vinnie mac themselfs are subscribed to your channel.
i really doubt anyone inside the wrestling business worth mentioning watches our videos and pays attention to our opinion.
they wrote off the smart fan decades ago. they only resort to us when they're in ratings trouble and need new ideas.
JOESGONNAKILLY0U 3 years ago
bryan danielson > disco the fairy.
JOESGONNAKILLY0U 3 years ago
Wow, finally someone from the Wrestling YOUTUBE committee spoke the damn truth. TSlay, u nailed a bullseye with this vid. I will say it too, I don't know the business as much as most of these people that speak their minds on here. I watch wrestling cause, like u, I am a Wrestling fan. I have been a fan close to 20 years now. It doesn't matter what organization it is. Thanks for speaking the truth.
MFerV2 3 years ago 3
Ill admit, I dont know shit about wrestling. But I do know that I started watching RAW again when I heard HHH was gone. I can also tell you if a match sucked. In fact, as a fan I am more qualified to say wheter a match was good or not, because I am the target of said match.
daveatmizzou 3 years ago 2
Even modern physics can be understood by reading a couple of books and solving some problems, you don't need to go into the lab and play here and there and blow somethings up and then make a theory and make history THEN people will say "oh you get it". If modern physics can be understood by "reading" then wrestling is no different.
We saw it long enough to what is a good match and what is a bad match, it is that simple!
Good vid slayer.
ShadowOfMath 3 years ago
great rant. agreed with most of your points, would love to see some ROH wrestlers coming into wwe to promote their style of wrestling. Seen some matches on the Fight Network and really like the style they use.
dips85 3 years ago
great video! agree with everything you said in it, it really irritates me and i hope people like hhh and disco watch this video lol
bubz123 3 years ago
Most of the net fans feel the need to be critics and try to put themselves over as experts.
My question is, whatever happened to just watching wrestling for the sake of having fun? I mean seriously, its two guys in their underwear pretending to fight each other. Is it really worth getting so upset about?
I say just sit down, grab some beers & chips, watch the show, and if aren't liking it, change the channel or pop in a DVD of something you do like.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Here fucking here! You have just said exactly what has been on my mind for ages now!
wythenshawe69 3 years ago
that is not the point. The point is we have every right. To let the world know what we like and dislike. Other wise nothing changes and people go out of business. By changing the channel or putting in a dvd. You do the samething, you let people know. Hey this is not really all that interesting. Just look at Russo. He's been in the business for how long? Yet has pulled some of the stupidest moves ever. the man helped kill off a major promotion.
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago
if you don't like it don't watch it.
Why would I sit there and spend two hours watching a show I don't like?
If you watch the show and then go on the net and talk about how bad it was, you still watched the show, which only helps which ever promotion it was that you watched.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Let's just stop at that first sentence: fans by their very nature are critics. End of story, no need to discuss it. When you sit down and take watch of something and come to a conclusion about it, whether you voice it out for others to hear or not, you are being a critic. You're coming to a decision on whether you liked or disliked that very item you just witnessed.
FANS ARE CRITICS. DONE!
moralvirus 3 years ago
Yeah, but then if someone hated the show and critqued it to death, those same people turn right back around and watch it next week.
I have hated many movies in my life time. I could go on and on and on about how much I hated Superman Returns for example. However, I didn't go back into the threatet to go watch it, I didn't buy the DVD, and its going tot ake some major convincing for me to go see the sequel.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Now I realize wrestling is different. Wrestling is episodic television, so 1 episode isn't necessarily be all end all.
Lets say I watched ECW 1 week & didn't like it. OK fine. It happens. 2nd week. Still didn't like it, but it could get better. 3rd week, still not liking it. Before you know it, 6 months have passed & Im still watching a show that I don't like. All I've done is waste 2 hours of my week for six months & done nothing but bitch about how bad it is. Whats the point?
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
But what if you felt very passionate at one time about the product?...Only to later see how it's being flushed down the toilet...you wouldn't be a crtitic about the current content and try to help it change for the better?
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
The key word you used is "felt"
At one time, you "felt" passionate about the product, which implies that you don't anymore.
Would I still be dating a girl if I didn't love her anymore? Hell no.
The best criticism is to ignore it completely and do something else to pass the time! If fans stopped watching, the WWE would change things in a hearbeat. If TNA did something that drove half their audience away, they'd stop doing it.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Did you watch tlay's "HOPE" video? I highly recommend it...
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
I did. He talked about how much he like dTNA back in 2005. THREE YEARS AGO!!!
Acording to him things went downhill for him around the time they got onto SpikeTV. That's fine. It's his opinion, but after three years of "HOPE" and you still aren't enjoying the product, don't you think its time to give up?
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
hope:
1. the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best
Yea it would be easy to give up and stop hoping for the best, but you should realize that certain people are really passionate about wrestling and will not stop watching, no matter what happens! Watch instantclassic's recent video series, if it is that easy for you to quit watching, then maybe you really didn't have a love for wrestling in the first place.
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
I hope for World Peace
I hope that one day I will have a loving family and be able to support them.
I hope that when I die, I go to heaven.
Now a wrestling product...is that really worth losing sleep over and getting all stressed out and upset over.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
And by the way, I actually do enjoy watching wrestling!
I watch Raw & Impact every week and 9 times out 10, I walk away from the TV with a big ol' smile on my face.
Wrestling for me hasn't turned into a chore.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
"Now a wrestling product...is that really worth losing sleep over and getting all stressed out and upset over." Who said anybody was losing sleep concerning a current wrestling product? And yes it is worth getting upset over if you really want the product to change so that the company can grow.
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
If I may quote The Joker WHY SO SERIOUS
I could find flaws with any wrestling product or TV show period. But who wants to do that. I watch TV shows & movies with the desire to enjoy them, and if I don't, then time to move on.
No show is perfect, but if you aren't going into the show with the intention of having fun, then you're cheating youself out of what makes Pro Wrestling great! Basically I'm saying that I shouldn't ever have to feel like I'm forcing myself to watch a show.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
I don't watch the show every week....When I decide to watch, I also go into the show with a clear head, but when so many thing are being thrown at me that just don't make sense, it's really hard to not walk away thinking WTF just happend? TNA's main objective should be to compete with the WWE in the future and the current show WILL NOT help them achieve their goal.
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
"I don't watch every week"
Good. You shouldn't if you don't like it.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
never quote the Joker again. You have no right to quote the insane clow prince of crime.
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago
Why not? Everybody else does.
Hell I'll do it again!
"I believe that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you...stranger"
"Do I look like a guy with a plan?! I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'll do with it if I catch it. I just DO things!"
There we go.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
"I watch Raw & *IMPACT* every week and 9 times out 10, I walk away from the TV with a big ol' smile on my face."
Really? Because usually I walk away from watching Impact with a dumbfounded look on my face...
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
Then why watch? Seriously, can't you find something more constructive to do on a Thursday night?
I just don't understand why you would watch a show you don't generally enjoy. What's the point?
I watch wrestling with the purpose of having fun and enjoying the show. I think alot of Internet fans watch the show with the intention of finding things wrong with the show, when they should probably think positively and try to enjoy it. And if they dont, then stop watching.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Have you ever heard of constructive criticism? You may think that "Internet fans" are always nitpicking and complaining about things, but the majority of us also offer great ideas that could maybe benefit TNA...Hence this video and hence instantclassic's recent videos.
mmawrestlefan 3 years ago
Nothing wrong with saying things you didn't like about the show, but when it gets to a point where thats all you do, and you get to a point where you forget why you are even watching the show, then its probably time to stop.
I should know. Raw was unbearable in 2003. Just complete crap, and I kept watching it until one day I thought "Why?" And yes there are other things to watch. Hell in the Fall there's FOOTBALL!!
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
I was there when Danielson got his trial vs. Cade in Oakland. The crowd was quiet at first, but he got over in a BIG way by the time the match was over.
I thought it was stange that he won with Cade getting a big push soon after, but it was a great match. And if the WWE were to sign him it be a major coup for the WWE. He doesnt need a gimmick. He wins folks over with skill. And that's rare for the WWE.
MREB414 3 years ago
Everybody has a right to state their opinion, but they are just that. Opinion.
Tslay or anybody else posting here most likely, has ever been in a backstage meeting for any wrestling show whether it be WWF/E, WCW, TNA, ECW or whatever. None of us have any idea what goes on backstage in order to put on a show.
Alot of these guys make it sound so easy to put on a wrestling show, and it certainly isn't.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
then with that reasoning oh wise one. Why in the great holy goddess name. Should I give wwe or tna my time or money? If I'm going to act in a wise fashion. And not take the crap they try to pass off as "wrestling" at times or other wise? If I don't care for a product what is wrong with me giving a reason for it? that doesn't make me any less of a person or a fan. And I refuse to take crap from people who say it does.
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago
Why should you give TNA or WWE your money? I hope you aren't! If you don't like the shows you shouldn't!
I'm not saying you can't say why you don't like a show. I just don't understand why anybody would say they hate something and THEN CONTINUE TO WATCH IT.
"I hate (insert name of wrestling company) I think it sucks blah blah blah"
(tunes into the show again the next week)
"I hate that show blah blah"
Its like an abused woman going back to an abusive boyfriend
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
well I watch the shows everyweek because I love wrestling so much and I want to watch the shows and I want to love them. To say we shouldn't watch shows we dont like is saying we should give up on wrestling apart from select promotions and shows you enjoy. It is a stupid comment and one which annoys me.
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
OK, I love Batman. He's my favorite superhero/comic book character. Does that mean I should waste my Saturday mornings watching that crappy "The Batman" cartoon because I love Batman. HELL NO!!!
If I think WWE/TNA/ROH/ABC/XYZ sucks, I'm not going to sit there and watch. I'll watch what I like, and I've got plenty of old tapes to enjoy. I tune in a few months later to see if things improve and see what happens.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
And why the hell should you watch anything besides what you enjoy? If the show sucks all the time, don't you get eventually just get tired of it?
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
that comparison doesn't work as Batman is in its original form a comic book and not a cartoon. Wrestling is and will always be a show. WHat should I do go buy a sticker book and fill that in for two hours on a monday night? If you don't like a wrestling show we still watch because we love wresting and want to enjoy it. As I write this in fact I am watching iMPACT! and literally shouting things out in annoyance now and again, but why am i still watching? Because i love wrestling and WANT to enjoy
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
You could always go out with friends on a Monday night. There's no rule that says you have to stay home on a Monday, Thursday, or Friday night.
And why doesn't the comparrison work. If it has Batman's name on it, I'm going to at least give it a chance. If its wrestling, I am going to at least give it a chance, but if after a few viewings, I am not pleased, TV goes off. It's that simple.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
Spot on.
You don't have to be a mechanic to know your cars fucked.
calvin8hobbs 3 years ago 2
yeah, but when you start telling the mechanic how to do his job, your likely to piss him off.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
You don't have to be a trained psychiatrist to correctly diagnose that Spinnernet is mental. You just cant get him committed unless you are.
I think you'll find that analogy is more apt.
calvin8hobbs 3 years ago
So? If somebody makes a shitty movie, should we all just sit back with plastic smiles on our faces because we don't want to irritate the director?
ECDUB13 3 years ago
No, just turn the movie off or walk out of the theater.
...duh.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
And what analogy would you use when people are discussing a topic that you're likely to provide a negative tone about the subject matter? Smile and walk away from the conversation just so you can spare some feelings?
moralvirus 3 years ago
damn right calvin.
TraciPeteyforlife 3 years ago