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  • good job on ya video =)

  • Love your vlogs Jackie! Keep em coming!

  • He makes sense. I plan on getting my concealed carry permit soon. God bless America and God bless Texas.....

  • The only gun control I'm interested in is being able, quickly and accurately, to line up front and rear sights, so that my shot COUNTS.

  • @tamarajean27 Now THAT is what I call gun control! Hitting your damn target!

  • @mattxr2i LOL My bro is a treasury agent, and has a large collection of guns. He was showing me a beaut! has laser sights. SOOO when you see the little red dot, you're "good to go."

  • @tamarajean27 Good stuff bro!

  • I like this guy.

  • Jackie states that he has never been caught out misinforming.

    1:25 politicians says that "gun control will save everybody's life."

    Not true.

  • Jackie is one of my hero's. I have been through 2 tours in Baghdad but he still has more balls. My question is why do most Jews vote democrat. It just doesn't make any god Damn sense.

  • because they are stupid!!!!!!!!!!

  • The thing that the gun control folks will NEVER get is this.... You can never take guns off the streets, so to stop people who follow laws from having the right to carry one is just plain stupid and is putting good people at a disadvantage.

  • Not long ago, where I live, a woman was brutally raped. Had she been allowed to carry a gun she wouldn't have been a statistic and there would be one less rapist in the world.

  • Thanks Jackie

    Correct.

    Criminals do not obey gun laws.

    I feel safe knowing I can defend myself.

    Tell that imp Bloomberg.

  • Well wether gun control works or not doesn't really matter to me. I own guns and 3 dogs. I doubt anyone is breaking into my house and will live to tell about it. I carry a .45 full size high cap pistol everywhere I go so I doubt you would want to mug me. My wife carry's a .357 mag so it would be unwise to attempt to rape or mug her. If you don't want to own a gun that's fine. You can even make it illegal to own them. I'll still carry and still be safe.

  • ya thats what I tell people if you dont want a gun fine but don't bother me about my guns.

  • 'Gun control' supporters are fascist hypocrites.

  • uhh nice! but my profile has better stuff! chck it out! 3

  • "WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED I WILL BE AN OUTLAW" I saw this on a patch. I will get this patch.

  • In my state, Carry Permits have a restriction that prevents carrying in Schools, Churches, and Bars. So if an Islamic Fundamentalist wants to shoot some Americans they can be sure to find them unarmed in Schools, Churches, and Bars. Or perhaps the people who made this law think that Islamics will not find out about this law?

  • u are 100% right jackie.People are stupid and ignorant, and unfortunately the media and the public schools are a big cause of it. People are scared into believing that guns are evil and that no good come from them. These r the same people who think that the police dispatcher can protect them from someone who has broken into there home. We already have more than 27,000 gun laws in the books, so more gun control is obviously not the answer!

  • In NC where I live, the Concealed Handgun Permits have been being issued to law abiding citizens since 1995. Hundreds of thousands have been issued. To date, not one permit holder has been charged with a gun crime.

    Criminal background checks, mental health background checks then a course approved by the justice dept must be passed before you can even apply for the permit. It is a good system in NC.

    Law enforcment officers have a higher crime rate than that.

  • Between 1994 and 1999,there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association)In one year, more children and teens died from gunfire than from cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, and HIV/AIDS combined.(Children's Def Fund)The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined.

  • The center for diseases released a report which stated that no single gun control measurement has saved anyones life. Not one single person has benifited from gun control. EXCEPT criminals

  • And how did they quantify this "fact" that no law had ever saved one single life anywhere? What were the empirical studies done, which stats were used and whom did they get this information from? You have made a pretty bold claim here. Support it.

  • "Quantifying" this fact, champ, is that you need to learn to read. The comment says "gun control measure" and when you learn to read, heres some suggested material for you. The Truth About Self Protection by Massad Ayoob. (a cop no less, but its pro gun, he must be lying) Guns save lives by Robert Waters. Or, you can go to a rape center and ask the victims if they would have been safer under stricter gun control. Go get real world experience on the subject and stop regurgitating media hype,champ

  • how many teens and children are killed on the highways of this country either by their own fault or say a drunk driver. It is harder to buy a gun than to get a car and drive into someone or off the road. We dont have car control do we? Not to say anything of the fact that it is a "GOD given or natural right" to bear arms, its only a privalige to drive. How many people werent robbed or raped or killed because they had a gun available? Go to any prison and ask any con there how they feel about it.

  • What have you been smoking?You have to take a class, pass the written test, put in several hours of driving with a parent, pass a driving test, get insurance and retest every so many years at the DMV.There are laws against speeding, drinking, talking on phones, who you can have in the car(for new drivers)and the list goes on.How is this not "car control"? BTW-no one buys a car in order to protect their house, to hunt game with, or to drive at a target over and over. Apples and oranges junior.

  • Junior? First of all, how many criminals go through all of this? How many illegals bother to either? How about the illegal that killed an 18 year old girl in Va last year, on his 3RD dui, but was never charged, as he was illegal? Ever heard of a stolen car? You are a complete idiot with NO true facts to back yourself up, let alone debate this issue. You made my point for me, with all that you listed, how many crimes occur involving a motor vehicle. Gun control will be like trying to ban cars.

  • First, you didn't answer as to the content and methodology of the study you sited before. Second, what you're talking about here is an immigration problem as that asshole should have been deported not jailed. When crimes are committed by individuals the individual is prosocuted. When a gun dealer breaks the law they are charged 10% of the time. That is disgusting. BTW-I bought a gun off the street as a young man so don't tell me I'm not qualified to talk on the issue junior.

  • Go to the DMV for content, champ. Illegals dont go through the process you describe as the only way to get a car.Deport him so he can come right back. Good idea. You bought a gun off the street? Doesnt that PROVE gun control doesnt work? The only reason someone like yourself would push for more control, is so you could then commit more crimes against unarmed people. People like yourself are the problem and the rest of us pay for it. People buy them off the street. Respond if you will, Im done.

  • gun bans will get rid of guns like prohibition got rid of alcohol. You can make guns illegal but you cannot eliminate the Black Market. Face it, most gun owners are law abiding citizens. If everyone who owned a gun in this country used it for crimes, crime rates would be thousands of times higher than they are now.

  • I advocate control not a ban. Background checks for EVERY gun sale, wether at a shop or a show. 4 in 10 guns in this country are sold without even having to show an id. Think any of them were used to commit a crime? 85% of federal gun cases are brought against people who commit violent acts while less than 10% of dealers who break the law are aver charged. If the laws on the books were enforced the way they were intended black market gun prices would soar, leaving the avg criminal behind.

  • You people don't seem to get it. Guns are used in this country to prevent more crimes than they are used to commit. Often a gun can be used to stop a crime without even firing a shot. and why do people do target practice? becaue it's FUN! I've never heard of anyone objecting to people who like archery, when arrows can also be used to kill. Besides, way more people use guns to hunt animals than to kill people. He's right, if guns are banned, only criminals will have them.

  • That is a complete guess. Who the hell calls the cops and says"Hey I just aimed a gun at a guy that tried to rob me and he ran away and nothing happened." The gun lobby has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to scare people into believing that cun control means that guys in black suits are going to show up at your house and forcefully take all your guns under penalty of law. What sane people want is for it to be extra hard and expensive for crooks to get guns.

  • One word : KATRINA. That is exactly what happened. People don't call the cops if they can scare off a criminal so the cops can go deal with other crimes. Are there cops to deal with every single incident? Who, if anyone, is responsible for the safety of the public? Or are we supposed to not be safe? Ask any cop, what their job is. Are they to protect people from crimes or deal with the aftermath? The anti gun lobby has spent more money pushing for the total ban of guns period.

  • Why do so many people on run into on this forum seem to let fear rule the way they live there lives? Fear of hell, fear of gays, fear of muslims, fear of crime. Whatever form it comes in it is always fear that seems to motivate people in their actions. Did it ever occur to you to just stop being so damn afraid of your own shadow all the time?

  • And by getting FACTS, I don't mean the propaganda put out by hangun control inc, aka violence policy center, or any other organization aimed at destroying our right that is protected by the Constitution. You don't have to protect yourself or your family. That's your choice. DO NOT tell anyone else that they are not allowed to. You don't get that choice. Taking guns or any arms away from law abiding people makes the crime rates (esp. violent) soar. Talk to a cop. Criminals fear armed citizens.

  • @zeekyblahIV YES!!  Professor John Lott, has proven that law-abiding armed citizens can drive down gun crime. (If you were a thug, wouldn't you just love to know ANYBODY you wish to mug is definitley unarmed?? )

  • "I'm not even trying and I am killing your object." Object should be argument, whoops, that's why you shouldn't type after just waking up.

  • "The "guns are designed to fire a projectile" line is a cop-out. Like saying that dynamite is meant to produce sudden increases in energy, not for demolition." Also, Dynamite was created for explosive purposes, that is a general purpose. The benefits are in demolition, but then again, it can be misused as a tool of death as well. Got anything else?

  • Wow, you're still not getting it! I wasn't using dynamite as an example of yet another thing that can kill. As I've said before, EVERYTHING can kill. And I KNOW SHOOTING A TARGET DOESN'T KILL ANYONE, but shooting a target is a way to train for what the gun was created for.

    Until you answer my question (If guns are designed only to fire a projectile, what do we want the projectile to be fired for?), I'll keep finding new ways to phrase it, because it seems you still don't get what I'm asking.

  • I will never live anywhere with out a firearm or firearms on my place of living and on my person, You may chose to live with out a gun in your home but keep those choices to your self. If you don't like this countries gun rights then move the hell out or stay in your own country don't even bother visiting. I wouldn't be here today If I didn't have my firearm on me when I needed it.

  • Sorry Jackie, I misread your position, you are NOT in favor of gun control my sincere apologies. You are right, the criminals will not obey gun control laws, it will only make law abiding citizens. Armed citizens make us much safer than the police or the government. I still maintain that the Jews would have been able to shoot the Nazis when they came for them, they would have defended themselves. We can never let that happen here.

  • If Hitler had not used guncontrol in Germany and the Jews were armed, I doubt many of them would have gone as "sheeple" to the gas "showers" and ovens. Jackie should move to Europe where all kinds of gun control give you the false sense of safety.

  • If a civillian is old enough to be a cop, has passed a strict background check, and has had as many hours of gun training as a cop, I believe that he or she should be permitted to carry a handgun. It will be just like having more cops on the street. But they will be safer than real cops because they know if they wrongly shoot someone, they will have to pay the consequences. No one will try to cover it up for them in the name of protecting their own.

  • All those anti-gun lobbyists are a bit hypocritical because if an ordinary member of the public saved their lives with a gun they would be most grateful to them. I've no doubt about that.

  • I know I'll be flamed for this but when was the last time an innocent bystander was killed by a stray knive? One of the 100+ deaths in the city where I live was a 3 year old girl killed by a stray driveby bullet. And if everyone was packing yeah that guy in the mall would've been stopped, but how many bystanders would've been shot in the process with everyone shooting their guns in a crowded mall?

  • Good point,but the drive-by shots were fired by a criminal who didn't care much about stray bullets. Responsible gun owners would have stopped the guy in the mall whilst being aware of the bystanders safety.

  • they are taking away people right to protect themselves. big brother will take care of us. maybe too well.

  • Jackie's right. Because the lady in the church had a gun it gave her the POTENTIAL to stop the killer in his tracks before he had a chance to shoot anyone. Sadly 7 people died on this occasion but the point is things could have worked out differently & she could have shot the maniac first & made him the only fatality!

  • are you retarded ??? i think the point is that if guns were illegal ( like in england and canada) then the acquisition of guns would be extremely diificult and there would be virtually no acces to them and there would be a significant decline in gun crimes .....see the big picture silly .... this guy is a neo nazi zionist agent

  • No he's not,thats a ridiculous thing to say about him. Why do you have to resort to insults to make a point? What if the lady in the church didn't have a gun? The whole congregation could have died. Yes guns are illegal in Britain but criminals are still getting & using them...thats the point!

  • USA is a totally different situation to Canada & Britain,any gun control laws would take years to see results & until there's a marked steep decline in gun crime we'll have to have armed trained & dependable people of good character in schools,churches,etc to protect us.

  • Think again. England has more gun crimes now

    than they did before the ban. Criminals know

    they are the only ones carrying. Ditto

    Australia.

  • Lol at "Ditto Australia". I live here and you hear about fatal gun shootings a couple times per year. This place is great without guns. Don't get me wrong, when I was in the USA, I had a few and I went hunting. However, I'm happy to live without them.

  • Typical liberal bait and switch answer. I didn't say murder. I said "Gun Crimes". That means robbery, assault, treats as well as murder. And it really doesn't even really have to be guns involved. If the criminal knows you don't have a gun then he can use anything. A knife, a baton, a brick, what ever and you're pretty much defenseless. An unarmed citizenry is just a bunch of slaves waiting to have the shackles put on.
  • Thats right,I'd rather have a gun if I was faced with a maniac with a machete.

  • You sir, are a dumb ass!

  • OK - more people are killed by knives than guns, and everyone has a knife, and not everyone has a gun . . . so that is an argument for MORE GUNS???!?!!? I really don't get it . . . I really don't get it . . . the guy with a gun in the church killed 7 people probably until his clip gave out . . . all we know is 7 people were killed by a gun . . . THANK GOD FOR GUNS!

  • and because someone in the church had a gun the maniac was stopped..guns don't kill, bad people do not good ones

  • 1st. Its a magazione not a "clip". You have to have some knowledge of the subject to disguss it.

    2nd. He can just reload the pistol. It takes about 2 seconds.

    You can't get the guns away from the criminals. The cops have always tried and they just cant. Ask one. People must caryy a CCW to protect from the criminals. Just like the how the bans on alchoal and drugs are BS and worthless and just promote runners and dealers.

  • @agalligani NO NO NO NO NO!!!! You are totally off base here! 7 people were NOT NOT NOT!! killed by a gun! They were killed by a psychotic PERSON who just happened to have a gun. AND he was stopped by a GOOD PERSON who also had a gun! The gun DID NOT walk into the church by itself and kill 7 people! The other gun DID NOT stop the maniac! The maniac walked into the church with a gun and killed 7 people! A GOOD CITIZEN with a gun stopped him! Can you get that through your shortsighted mind?

  • That's right, Jackie.

    If everyone had guns, criminals would be quite reluctant to wrecklessly perpetrate criminal acts.

    Hope you're voting for Ron Paul, then. He's anti-'gun control'.

  • And, criminals are RECKLESS [Marked by unthinking boldness; with defiant disregard for danger or consequences].

  • Guns don'e kill people.People kill people.Educating our children is the key to a better worl

  • No, bullets kill people.

  • No, they really don't, unless they are fired by.........a human.

  • the difference is someone has a defense against a knife, and a stab wont neccessarily kill someone unless someone stabbed you in the right place or it was repeated stabs, and a knife serves another purpose besides stabbing, guns serve no other purpose other then to kill something or seriously injure

  • Bullshit, but a typical liberal response.

  • what purpose does a gun have other then to kill or injure?

    Can you cut a piece of pie with a gun?

  • First of all, not all guns are used to kill. Have you ever heard of suppression fire, or cover fire. Second, target shooting? Killing is the end, the weapon(tool) is the means, nothing more or less. Knives/swords cut, axes chop, vices squeeze, and guns fire projectiles. Try to use logic.

  • yes target shooting what a wonderful invention, that cant be duplicated using something that wont kill someone

    I am using logic, guns are bad, no other way around it

  • No, you are using emotion. "guns kill" is not logic, because logically, a gun is an inanimate object and cannot inflict harm without due influence by the user. Emotion assigns an action, in this case killing, to an object that logically cannot act, hence emotional argument.

  • keep bloggn Jackie........ tell em the truth and tell em off.........love ya baby

  • Rabbi Ya'akov Maza aka Jackie Mason is quite right about always being right, because he IS always right, and NEVER wrong! and why display false humility by pretending it is otherwise?

    I do believe in background checks for guns. No use making it that much easier for criminals to obtain guns. Nevertheless, the main substance of what Jackie Mason is saying here is so obviously true, that it borders on being an absolute fact rather than a mere opinion

  • The world would be a far better place if there were more Jackie Masons in it.

    I wish Jackie would do a YouTube clip on the subject of idiots destroying the world via their baby-making, as I feel that's at the heart of so many of our social problems. Creeps and fools crap out LOTS of kids while the bright, kind, law-abiding tend to have few or none at all.

  • Right on! Well said.

  • hello, hi sirs..I'm reminded of our jewish hero Bernard Goetz who showed those sons of bitches that they can't push us around sirs..

  • charles bronson, also Jewish, showed who is boss as well, in the 1974 classic movie, Death Wish

  • i dont know who jesus was but I know that jews , during the roman holocaust , were fighting and dying for their faith, noone ever fought as hard as jews did , most people just acceeded , because most cultures were debased at that time and even the disgusting state of rome was better than that. so, jews who lived , were the only ones who were armed

  • You are a two-faced lier Jackie (and I mean that in the nicest way). Here's a provable lie you told since YOU asked. In this blog you say, "I never call people names.." and in the original blog you call everyone who disagrees with you a "stupid moron." So there's your proof. The only moron in the room is the guy who suggests that we should arm all our students and teachers....that's real thinking there Jackie...great.

  • Sorry Jackie....just reviewed the old gun control blog...you don't say 'stupid moron,'..you say 'sick moron.' I want to get my facts straight.

  • More FACTS:

    Matthew Miller, M.D., ScD, associate director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center at HSPH and lead author of the study, said: "In states with more guns, more children are dying. They are dying in suicides, in homicides, and in gun accidents. This finding is completely contrary to the notion that guns are protecting our children."

  • More children die from car accidents than from gun accidents. When people commit suicide they slash their wrists or their throats, they ingest poison, they leap off tall briges or buildings;the most successful suicides in prison are committed by hanging. In none of these methods of suicide were guns ever used. Homicides were committed long before guns were invented. Guns enable the prey an equal chance to defend against the predator.

  • More children die from abusive parents who are physically much bigger and stronger than their smaller children. In most cases, more children are killed by strangulation, drowning, suffocation, or beaten to death then they are victims of being shot to death in their own homes. Dr. Miller knows, but will never tell you, that the facts will show that the fatalities suffered by childred caused by guns are much lower in comparison to the methods I have just mentioned.

  • far more people die in their swimming pools than by guns. so perhaps it is swimming pools that need to be outlawed

  • Alaturk...you might be too stupid for words...Of course more children die in car accidents than by guns. What does that have to do with anything?

  • Yes I guess I must be too stupid for words. I hope for your sake that you are never threatened by someone pointing a gun at you..you will not have a gun to defend yourself against him (or her) and the last thought you may have as you feel your life slipping away after being shot is...that alaturk must not have been so stupid after all.

  • Yes, LMAO, I'm sure I'll be thinking of you in that moment. Or maybe when the gun is pointed at me, I will have taken your advice, at which point I'll ask the kind gunman if he can wait a minute while I go and get my new shiny gun so I can kill him first...

  • ninshoom is too stupid for words

  • Children have more to fear from 5 gallon buckets half filled with water than a firearm.

    Causes of Death in the US: (2000) Source CDC

    43,354 = Accidents - Motor Vehicle

    13,322 = Accidental Falls

    12,757 = Accidental Poisoning

    3,482 = Accidental Drowning

    776 = Accidental Discharge of Firearms

    * 131 = accidental discharge of rifle, shotgun and larger firearm

    * 120 = accidental discharge of handgun

    * 525 = accidental discharge of other and unspecified firearm

  • It is easy to argue such a simple view of the world but the world isn't that simple. Dr. Miller's research is heavily influenced by funding, which is fine. To suggest that guns are the underlying problem without examining socioeconomics, education, and many other factors that contribute to violence and accidents is completely irresponsible.

  • bottleRacket the self-hating Jew is both a stupid moron and a sick moron

  • Hey the dumbass arrived!! Welcome stupid.

  • bottleRacket the self-hating Jew is a stupid dumbass

  • bottleRacket the self-hating Jew is so stupid, that he does not even realize when the COMEDIAN Jackie Mason is telling a joke. anybody who does not believe that teachers and one designated student per class should be armed, is a stupid brainless idiotic moron

  • the problem is crimes of passion. the thief is not angry and will only kill you when he needs to get away with it. how many times per year do you get mugged? of those, how many times have you been killed? ok.. probably 0.

    now, how many times have you argued with / been angry with somebody in the past year? people angry with you? what if somebody was so angry they shot you? is it inconceivable?

  • Jackie Mason for President!! An armed society is a polite society.

  • Rustyleee, let me guess....your neck is RED from all the wife beater shirts you wear, right? Oh yeah and your wife/cousin is takin care of the young'ns...good luck with alllllll that...

  • ninshoom,

    All I can say to you is - Wow! Are you always so shallow or is this just a passing phase in your life?

  • ninshoom's neck is all red from his brain being removed from his ugly wife beater head

  • For all the people saying that citizens who have a license to carry won't stop crime: see the attempted massacre at the church that was stopped by the CCW holder.

  • hello, hi sirs..sirs, do you know if Jackie owns uhhh a gun(s}?..I want to be just like Jackie so if he has one I too will buy one, thankyou..

  • You can not legislate morality.

  • therefore legalize murder and theft?

  • My point is that people will murder and steal no matter what the law says. I think we can all agree that murder and theft should be illegal because it forcefully imposes a person's will on another. Both are acts of aggression. It is my right as a human to be able to protect myself from thieves and murderers. I gun works pretty good.

  • The Second Amendment was proposed to Congress on 1789. The guns they had in those days couldn't hit a Jewish Comedian from the front row of comedy club. God forbid someone wanted to mow down Martin AND Lewis. He'd have to shoot one and then take a minute to reload or come back for the second show. But who does 2 shows a night nowadays? With the guns today he could knock off Monty Pythons Flying Circus in a heartbeat.

  • Spoken like a truly uninformed poster. Muzzleloaders are pretty accurate, and canons were legal in this country back when too, they will also take out a group of people, the difference, today people are becoming ignorant of their rights and believe that controlling armaments actually accomplishes safety. It's called being a sheep.

  • Right on Jackie, so true. Laws only affect the people willing to obey them. It's not rocket science.

  • Laws only affect the people willing to obey them. .. so true

  • The knife argument is realllllly dumb. A gun is different from a knife because it's designed with the sole purpose of killing. Ever shoot yourself a slice of bread? Ever shoot the peel off an apple? Ever machine-gun a turkey at Thanksgiving?

  • Firearms are known as the great equalizers.

    The reason is a 70 year-old wheel-chair bound lady has the same power as a 20 year-old weight lifter.

    When you remove the right of protection from the lady you ensure she will always be enslaved to life as a victim, because the police can never stop a crime before it occurs.

    I'd rather people have the right to defend their lives from deviants than die because of an irrational fear of firearms.

  • That's all well and good, but comparing guns to kitchen knives is still a dumb argument.

  • Really? So a kitchen knife won't kill you? I did not know that, learn something new every day. Seriously though, you have no clue what you are talking about.

  • Yes, you could get killed with a kitchen knife. What part of what I wrote made you think I thought the opposite, you dumbass? You could also get killed with a toaster oven or a telephone if you get hit hard enough. The difference is that guns are designed to kill, they serve no other purpose. Comparing them to anything that *might* kill someone is dumb because EVERYTHING might kill someone. Guns have a special status for a reason.

  • Guns are designed to fire a projectile through a tube, they aren't "designed to kill" more or less than anything else, they are tools, they only become weapons when the holder so desires. You can't see that, so obviously, you are the dumbass. FYI, you know there are specially designed knives for throwing, and assault right? Right? Do learn more about what you rant on, better yet, leave people's rights alone and dissappear.

  • You first deny that guns are designed to kill, then acknowledge that some knives are designed to kill so the comparison works. Make up your mind, should the object's design be a factor or not?

    And when did I say anything about people's rights? All I said was that the comparison to KITCHEN KNIVES was a poor one. All you've shown with your knee-jerk reaction is that you're adverse to debate or reasoning.

  • In no part did I say some knives are designed to kill, I did say that they were designed for assault purposes, they do the same basic thing as kitchen knives, cut and/or pierce, but are used for tactical purposes. All guns are designed to fire a projectile(same basic purpose) they just do it a different way and are used for different situations. Therefore the comparison stands, you just don't want to admit it or can't comprehend the logic. Keep trying.

  • No, the comparison does not stand. As you said: all knives cut but some are designed for assault. The comparison to guns doesn't stand because all guns are designed to kill, the capacity to kill is not a marginal side-effect to what they were designed for.

    The "guns are designed to fire a projectile" line is a cop-out. Like saying that dynamite is meant to produce sudden increases in energy, not for demolition.

  • You obviously don't know shit about weapons. Assault, as I used it for particular styles of knives, means that, killing is up to the wielder, an assault is just the engagement of force. If you shoot a target with a range gun, what have you killed?

  • "Killing is up to the wielder". Right. And cutting is up to the knife weilder. Does that change anything to what the gun was designed for?

    "If you shoot a target, what have you killed?"

    Nothing, but you've trained to more effectively use the gun for what it was designed for should you ever find yourself in a situation where you need it.

    How does that change anything to what I said about what guns are designed for?

  • I'm done with you, you're hopeless. Next time you debate with somebody, it might help your case to be informed about your subject rather than bringing a "yeah but, yeah but" blithering response. I'll leave you with this. Guns don't kill by themselves and were not designed "to kill" specifically. I'm officially bored with you, have a nice life.

  • Of course, guns don't kill by themselves. They're an object. Knives don't cut by themselves either. But knives sure do make cutting easier, and guns sure do make killing easier.

    Help me out here. If guns are designed not to kill but to fire a projectile, what exactly do we want the projectile to be fired for?

    I'll understand if you choose not to reply. You've already been embarassed enough!

  • Embarrased huh? yeah right. You already look like a stupid pansy by stretching out a weak point. Like I said, you are boring me, I'm not even trying and I am killing your object. When you are ready to get out of stupid mode, let me know. As far as that stupid projectile statement of yours. Target shooting, nothing alive. Bye moron.

  • And there you have it folks: saying anything critical about gun ownership - not saying guns should be illegal or banned, just saying that they're a special kind of object deserving of a special status - makes one a pansy.

    You're very predictable, you know that?

  • abcmole...Are you seriously that stupid? A 70yr old with a gun has the same power as a 20yr old with a gun? The only thing that scenario insures is a 70yr old shot dead. Without the gun she has a chance...come one...think stupid!....

  • Yes, the gun utilises the same force regardless of the person using it.

    I'd go into the physics, but I'm more than a little sure it would be lost on you.

    She has a chance without a gun? Of being a victim and laying in the morgue...deviants today are more likely to murder her than let her live.

    If you think a defenceless victim is a better alternative to an armed one you need a logic class, unless you are the criminal.

  • 'i'd go into the physics...' lol....

  • See...

  • umm...i think his problem is not so much logic, but a lack of sheer brain power. only a complete moron would think that an unarmed older woman is safer than an armed one

  • huh? i get the feeling that even ninshoom does not believe his own words. nobody can be that stupid, can they?

  • Well, on the question of anti-self-defence forces as a whole not just ninshoom, as Sigmund Freud said:

    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

  • abcMole is sexually and emotionally retarded

  • I think you need to re-read what I said, it was an attempt to agree with you.

    C'est la vie.

  • abcMole needs to re-read what i said

  • I don't fear weapons, fool.

    As William Blake said, which applies greatly to you, "The mind that alters alters all". It is the sign of your mental illness.

  • abcMole foolishly fears weapons. abcMole's altered mind has mental illness

  • Ah, I understand now, you are a throwback.

  • abcMole is a throwback

  • Point proven.

  • abcMole is pointless

  • You seem to have mastered debate up to and not including the pre-school level. Cheers.

  • abcMole is a master debater and a cunning linguist at the pre-school level

  • People need guns to protect them from the government. They also need guns to protect them from the crazy people. If guns were not around, you would have swords and knives and TASERS!!!!

  • "They also need guns to protect them from the crazy people."

    Except if the crazy people already have guns, and shoot first.

  • if crazy people have guns, then all the more reason for sane people to have guns, too, to defend against the crazy ones

  • Mikma should be here!

  • Jackie, You need to revisit your Republican nominees then. Ron Paul has ads in "Shotgun News" the most distributed gun newsletter as an advocate for the 2nd amendment. Rudy, Romney, and McCain have very different views.

  • This time I agree with you Jackie.

    I was a US Marine for 9 yrs. Trust me when I say I have seen most of what there is to se. To have a gun to protect your family at anytime is the best thing possible. All of the gun laws are about controlling your freedom. Criminals have guns so making harder for regular citizens to get them is asinine. Should safty courses be required, Yes I think so. Background check..no it doesnt matter the the criminal who gets one from the street.

  • After the government collected weapons in Cambodia, Pol Pot could do what he wanted against anyone he wanted. Estimates of 2 million could not defend themselves. Gun Control is about controlling your freedom.

  • You're right Jackie.

    It used to be honest non-criminal citizens were expected to be armed as a matter of civic responsibility.

    We should go back to those traditions.

    We should have the police teach gun safety to HS graduates on the safe and proper method of handeling firearms. That wouldn't be for the wackos, illegals or thugs with records but the rest should have the right to defend themselves and training and be certified to carry weapons for their own safety and security.

  • a gun can make a killer. guns arent just used in premeditated murder as you mention. it's not only the killer thats making the gun.

    then again rav yankiff i dont know if you mentioned that gun control should be abolished completely. i am sure you mean that people should have to get a license for it, be fingerprinted with no criminal record and then be able to conceal it. that i am in favor for.

    responsible law abiding citizens should be able to have one.

  • that is how i feel as well. i definitely believe in the right of the average adult to bear arms, but i also think we need background checks to screen out violent criminals, the insane, and those with a very low IQ. while it is true that bad guys can get guns elsewhere, there is no need to make it any easier for them

  • this is true, but guns are long range deadly weapons that can kill a massive amount of people quickly and accurately. you cant just have guns being sold all over the streets and in local supermarkets for anyone to buy.

     if people have guns on the streets and a common conflict arises such as road rage or someone gets shoved instead of a shouting match people know they have a gun and the gun will be part of the conflict and that will cause loss of life. it's a psychological issue.

  • rav yankiff i agree partially. although agree that gun control laws are too strict, they shouldnt be abolished completely. living in new york city knowing that every shvartza chalelya, drug addict, teenager has a gun would make me very nervous. there has to be some control over it.

    you also mention that people can kill with knives and other weapons.

  • So, I have a question. Why is it that the communities LEAST able to protect you (Wash DC, New Orleans, Los Angeles) have the strictest gun laws?

    They can't protect you, but they don't want you to protect yourself. Typical libtard bullshit.

  • Some sense finally.

    Too long though.

  • which is why I will have a conceal and carry liscense.

    There are just some people that are better off dead. If we could just get away from this tolerance crap that has infected itself into society we'd all be better off. It would force people to pay attention instead of being responsible. When did morality became sub-par?

  • what makes you think that today's liberal even believes in morality in the first place?

  • This is the first video of yours that I liked so far

  • "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

    --Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).

  • Pinusinek just got owned!

  • wow, sounds like Thomas Jefferson would have made a great President of the NRA!

  • Your family may not be worth protecting.

    Mine is.

    Try all you want to control guns, I could name ten guys who are able to make a gun with a machine shop and simple tools.

    Ban Machine shops.

  • wow! I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. Agreed Jackie.

  • agnosticAdam is a broken clock

  • Gun control just further infringes upon the liberty and sovereignty of the individual.

  • Which individual? I'm an individual who wants the freedom to live somewhere where guns are severely controlled.

  • thats not freedom. go move to Canada then

  • It's not called freedom to lack the right of self-defence it is called slavery.

  • Then by all means leave. Go to the UK, or Austrailia. They have harsh gun control laws, and still their violent crime rates haven't gone down. We have a gun control law in this country, we call it the 2nd ammendment to the Bill of Rights.