Thank you! I've been saying nationalism is stupid for a long time and no one seems to understand the direction I'm coming from. I absolutely agree with you. Nationalism separates us all. Great vid
What infuriates me the most is how goverments preach humanitarian policy and left ideas and hold conventions for this, yet activly participate in keeping countries like Africa from modernisation. Holding them back effectively.
On this, I agree wholeheartedly, although in all honesty it is neither a question of nationalism nor one of territoriality. I fully support humanitarian aid but unless one is willing to consider the assisted nation as a partner, rather than a "cause", they will be kept back in perpetuity.
I do apologise about the indoctrination comment, it was silly of me, But I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on about starting to think together as a world instead of nationalities, it's just I see any one country's achievements atrributed to their uniqueness.
It is funny how we are "Human above all else" but yet have to "celibrate diversity" would there be any point for this give that we are all human? I am deeply aware of my own ethnicity, and find it an unjust reason why other people feel they have "superiority" my travels have taught me this also
I can understand your amusement because these two can be considered opposites. This is not how I intended it. Let's take for instance the issue of languages. As a species, we lose between 10 and 50 languages per year due to the sheer practicality of trade and international exchanges. Granted, it is a utopic battle (at linguistic level), but I wish to preserve both the pluralism of society and its individuality because it is this uniqueness that makes a society multicultural.
It is interesting how the immediate thoughts of someone allied to Liberalist ideas immediatly thinks a critic of their ideas is someone in tne with the right. I am not the one who finds it so easy to find a consensus that meets all my philosophies.
In the spirit of conviviality, I would also like to apologise for hinting that your view was in any way or form allied to the Right. I do not know you either. I did not mean to imply that you were, but if my words did give this impression, it was not intentional.
Life is too complicated to categorize in such a way.
This does not mean multiculteralism is the answer as imo, as I find it is devaluing the inherently different qualities of any one race. Just because we are not living in each others country's does not mean we cannot learn from each other:)
I view territory as important, as it is a key factor in nurturing the difference. Different cultures breed different minds, and without this, civilization will stagnate
As I stated in the video, I do not object to love for a culture, a people or a territory, but I do object to the elitism, apartheid and exclusivity that so often nationalism breeds in our societies.
(cont) Territory is odd. Looking at the United Kingdom, Scottish, Welsh and English cultures are different. In fact, even in England, Norfolk and Essex cultures are different. Yet, we all accept the pluralism of all these British cultures. Why? For political & historical reasons. I have no objection to the defence of Cornish identity, but British identity itself is simply too artificial because it is an artificial construct. What is British culture if not a blend of all its territorial cultures?
It is so funny how a person who has obvious leftist sympathies talks about how he would want to "preserve" the individuality of a nation yet supports all kinds of left wing lunacy. It is so easy for the left wing to brand every person who loves their identity as a pub lout or a football guy, while trying to sound superior citing what they have "learnt" from foundationless indoctrination
Left or right, I really couldn't care less. It's irrelevant. I'm a humanist. I want to preserve _human_ culture. I'm beyond the weak notion of territoriality and segregating nationalism. I think it's about time that we started thinking as a planet and as one people.
Your polarizing Left/Right view of the World is interesting and entertaining, but my worldview is so far beyond that. You probably never will understand unless you stop thinking of yourself as British. You are human above all else! We don't need our in-/out- group labels.
My Worldview is not the fruit of indoctrination. It is not dogma. It is 100% organic, ever-changing and constructed over 31 years of travel, dialogue, introspection and observation. Naturally you know nothing of me and so you are excused, but in the future may I recommend that you get to know people before stereotyping us in this way.
I think traveling increases your 'level' of association. so: you connect with the humans in a different place, realise you're pretty similar and so decrease your national identity and create more of an "Earth identity." think about what would happen if Mar's aliens faced off in a game of football against a German football team ... hypothetically. I, as an Australian/New Zealander, would increase my level of association and apply my pride with a wider scope and hence identify with Germany!
Look the whole thing is stupid from the start, the usa can't have national pride because they are not a "Nation" in the true sense of the word. If I were an american I would have pride in European heritage and culteral traditions, something that is slowly being eroded and repressed by multi-culteralists.
Nation = "a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own"
The "United States of America" is therefore a nation (albeit a unionized one, much like the United Kingdom)
That is very true, yes. You make a valid point with regards to differentiating between polities and rulers, people and governments. I could of course point out that Belgium, as a whole, benefited greatly from exploitation of the Congo and that the Belgian army was heavily involved in the violence, but that does of course not change the absolute validity of your comment.
You're right that the Belgians in the Congo upped the brutality of colonialism. But you keep saying "they". But Belgium didn't control it -- it was <I>owned</i> by Leopold II until 1908. He used it as a personal fief. To my reading, one of the things that pissed off the Belgians is that, because he owned the Congo, the proceeds from Congolese rubber sales as personal wealth! SY-KO.
Football does contribute to national pride (and also national relations to some degree), but the sport itself can not be equated with naitonalism. Nationalism is more a result of our social upbringing that leads us to believe our identiy lies with 'the country' and the people of it and not humanity or the wider biological world. I agree that travelling helps, as from direct experience we see a common humanity. The Sun and Daily Mail would lead us to believe otherwise.
Of course, we must differentiate between a friendly saturday morning game at the local pitch and the violent thugs on away matches to mainland Europe. There will always be a "hard core" of violent individuals in most groups but, in football, it appears greater than in chess clubs or speed-knitting associations. ;-)
interesting videos
warrior350es 3 years ago
There's only the problem of having national pride for a nation that sucks. (Not saying England does, but some do)
Luisrah 3 years ago
There's nothing wrong with having national pride, god i'm so proud to be English.
lfc975 4 years ago 3
Europe will be a 3rd world Africanized/Islamized shithole in about 40 years.
Long gone will be all dribbling of "humanity" and "everyone's equal".
God when will we wake up.
ByzantiniaRezurecti 4 years ago 2
Nice vid, but I disagree that "all" countries are "equally fucked and equally good". :)
BryanAJParry 4 years ago
Thank you! I've been saying nationalism is stupid for a long time and no one seems to understand the direction I'm coming from. I absolutely agree with you. Nationalism separates us all. Great vid
MABUS01 4 years ago
What infuriates me the most is how goverments preach humanitarian policy and left ideas and hold conventions for this, yet activly participate in keeping countries like Africa from modernisation. Holding them back effectively.
claudevancack 4 years ago
On this, I agree wholeheartedly, although in all honesty it is neither a question of nationalism nor one of territoriality. I fully support humanitarian aid but unless one is willing to consider the assisted nation as a partner, rather than a "cause", they will be kept back in perpetuity.
nnocturne 4 years ago
I do apologise about the indoctrination comment, it was silly of me, But I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on about starting to think together as a world instead of nationalities, it's just I see any one country's achievements atrributed to their uniqueness.
claudevancack 4 years ago
It is funny how we are "Human above all else" but yet have to "celibrate diversity" would there be any point for this give that we are all human? I am deeply aware of my own ethnicity, and find it an unjust reason why other people feel they have "superiority" my travels have taught me this also
claudevancack 4 years ago
I can understand your amusement because these two can be considered opposites. This is not how I intended it. Let's take for instance the issue of languages. As a species, we lose between 10 and 50 languages per year due to the sheer practicality of trade and international exchanges. Granted, it is a utopic battle (at linguistic level), but I wish to preserve both the pluralism of society and its individuality because it is this uniqueness that makes a society multicultural.
nnocturne 4 years ago
It is interesting how the immediate thoughts of someone allied to Liberalist ideas immediatly thinks a critic of their ideas is someone in tne with the right. I am not the one who finds it so easy to find a consensus that meets all my philosophies.
claudevancack 4 years ago
In the spirit of conviviality, I would also like to apologise for hinting that your view was in any way or form allied to the Right. I do not know you either. I did not mean to imply that you were, but if my words did give this impression, it was not intentional.
Life is too complicated to categorize in such a way.
nnocturne 4 years ago
This does not mean multiculteralism is the answer as imo, as I find it is devaluing the inherently different qualities of any one race. Just because we are not living in each others country's does not mean we cannot learn from each other:)
claudevancack 4 years ago
I view territory as important, as it is a key factor in nurturing the difference. Different cultures breed different minds, and without this, civilization will stagnate
claudevancack 4 years ago
As I stated in the video, I do not object to love for a culture, a people or a territory, but I do object to the elitism, apartheid and exclusivity that so often nationalism breeds in our societies.
nnocturne 4 years ago
(cont) Territory is odd. Looking at the United Kingdom, Scottish, Welsh and English cultures are different. In fact, even in England, Norfolk and Essex cultures are different. Yet, we all accept the pluralism of all these British cultures. Why? For political & historical reasons. I have no objection to the defence of Cornish identity, but British identity itself is simply too artificial because it is an artificial construct. What is British culture if not a blend of all its territorial cultures?
nnocturne 4 years ago
It is so funny how a person who has obvious leftist sympathies talks about how he would want to "preserve" the individuality of a nation yet supports all kinds of left wing lunacy. It is so easy for the left wing to brand every person who loves their identity as a pub lout or a football guy, while trying to sound superior citing what they have "learnt" from foundationless indoctrination
claudevancack 4 years ago
Left or right, I really couldn't care less. It's irrelevant. I'm a humanist. I want to preserve _human_ culture. I'm beyond the weak notion of territoriality and segregating nationalism. I think it's about time that we started thinking as a planet and as one people.
nnocturne 4 years ago
Your polarizing Left/Right view of the World is interesting and entertaining, but my worldview is so far beyond that. You probably never will understand unless you stop thinking of yourself as British. You are human above all else! We don't need our in-/out- group labels.
nnocturne 4 years ago
My Worldview is not the fruit of indoctrination. It is not dogma. It is 100% organic, ever-changing and constructed over 31 years of travel, dialogue, introspection and observation. Naturally you know nothing of me and so you are excused, but in the future may I recommend that you get to know people before stereotyping us in this way.
nnocturne 4 years ago
I think traveling increases your 'level' of association. so: you connect with the humans in a different place, realise you're pretty similar and so decrease your national identity and create more of an "Earth identity." think about what would happen if Mar's aliens faced off in a game of football against a German football team ... hypothetically. I, as an Australian/New Zealander, would increase my level of association and apply my pride with a wider scope and hence identify with Germany!
terisu 4 years ago
Very true. We seek patterns in behaviour and identify with those with most in common with us. Human nature.
nnocturne 4 years ago
Very nice. Keep it up.
Your videos are always interesting and enlightening.
EviTheFreak 4 years ago
Look the whole thing is stupid from the start, the usa can't have national pride because they are not a "Nation" in the true sense of the word. If I were an american I would have pride in European heritage and culteral traditions, something that is slowly being eroded and repressed by multi-culteralists.
claudevancack 4 years ago
Interesting, but inaccurate.
Nation = "a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own"
The "United States of America" is therefore a nation (albeit a unionized one, much like the United Kingdom)
nnocturne 4 years ago
That is very true, yes. You make a valid point with regards to differentiating between polities and rulers, people and governments. I could of course point out that Belgium, as a whole, benefited greatly from exploitation of the Congo and that the Belgian army was heavily involved in the violence, but that does of course not change the absolute validity of your comment.
Thanks for dropping by. :-)
nnocturne 4 years ago
You're right that the Belgians in the Congo upped the brutality of colonialism. But you keep saying "they". But Belgium didn't control it -- it was <I>owned</i> by Leopold II until 1908. He used it as a personal fief. To my reading, one of the things that pissed off the Belgians is that, because he owned the Congo, the proceeds from Congolese rubber sales as personal wealth! SY-KO.
CPXB 4 years ago
Football does contribute to national pride (and also national relations to some degree), but the sport itself can not be equated with naitonalism. Nationalism is more a result of our social upbringing that leads us to believe our identiy lies with 'the country' and the people of it and not humanity or the wider biological world. I agree that travelling helps, as from direct experience we see a common humanity. The Sun and Daily Mail would lead us to believe otherwise.
worldgovernment 4 years ago
Of course, we must differentiate between a friendly saturday morning game at the local pitch and the violent thugs on away matches to mainland Europe. There will always be a "hard core" of violent individuals in most groups but, in football, it appears greater than in chess clubs or speed-knitting associations. ;-)
Thanks for watching!
nnocturne 4 years ago