punks and the capitalist world eating consumption industry go hand in hand, just look at how punks dress, its screaming materialism, from all the subcultures i have met the punks are the biggest buyers of crap, they are useful idiots for all the multinationals and the entire capitalist consumption industry.
it's actually kind of hilarious that every punk video on youtube, without exception, has some dipshits arguing over what is and isn't punk. i actually have more respect for glue-sniffing dumpster punks than internet punks.
being punk isn't about hair or clothes, but just because someone has a mohican you can't dismiss them as a poser, like anything it comes from within, and if somebody is prepared to try to fit into something they don't like, fuck 'em they'll just end up wasting their life.
@jsbret2729 That is the whole thing...it was a short story, shot on film, for the "Willesee" program, channel 9 Australia in 1985. A better re-coloured version of this is available on YouTube if you search using the correct year 1985, and key word: punk
@MrDismemberment no it isn't...though it cartainly has some satire in the script, so you can say it's a send up of serious English reporters, by a not so serious Aussie reporter.
HEY CHECK OUT MY CHANNEL MAINLY MY ABOUT ME IF YOUR INTO PUNK AND SHIT AND TIRED OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY THIS DAY IN AGE, WE NEED TO UNITE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...THANKS
@65theDoors the song played by the punk on the bass guitar is Chaos UK - "victimised", at 0:29 the punk is singing "never understood" by the Mob, and the song that starts at 1:37 is Doug Murlay " I'm a punk" ,
Punks are exactly that in a fight. punk pussy bitches. Ive stomped so many while they bleed and twitch because there braincord has been severed. sitting there writhing in pain shaking in pain foaming at the mouth. Im fully willing to be violent towards the scum of society
Punks are exactly that in a fight. punk pussy bitches. Ive stopped so many while they bleed and twitch because there braincord has been severed. sitting there writhing in pain shaking in pain foaming at the mouth. Im fully willing to be violent towards the scum of society
@J1zzardOfOz ooo your a big man... talking of us as scum of the society... no, i'm pretty sure rapist, murder's and pedophiles hold that title.
Your boasting of the internet, in that, I can judge that you probably never have been in a fight, or, you simply brag over the internet to make up for what you would never do in real life.
Now i'm sure your going to have some douchebag comment in response, that or your going to start off by threatening me.
@J1zzardOfOz Your comment made me laugh, I know for a fact you haven't done any of the shit you just said. By the way, after I'm done squatting 405lbs and benching 315 at the gym I throw in my studded leather jacket with my green hair, does that make you mad pussy? I'd knock your fuckin head off your shoulders if you talked to me or anyone else like that.
carboard cut out punks.....in the 70's for original creators it was more about wanting to look different.. the key thing is to wear clothes opposite to the current trend your high street sells...if everyone wears flairs you wear tight. it's often based on a economy.. things out of fashion are cheaper, being a student mainly of art or fashion you wants some thing cool to wear you go places like second hand stores with some even modifying clothes to stand out then bang new scene.
can somebody help because i keep fucking failing at this? im trying to find a hair cut that will freak people out like mohawks did in the 80's ... i've tried the mohawk and people said i t looks cool or im trying to rebel, i've tried just leaving random patches on my head and people said they liked how artistic it looked...HELP I WANT TO FUCKING FREAK PEOPLE OUT AGAIN LIKE I DID WHEN I WAS YOUNGER!
@eatmeimsteak no chance since there is the internet and you can see all manner of stuff like peoples extreme accidents... people eating poo over each other,executions and people doing ungodly stuff to animals to name a few nothing much shocks people nowadays.
Now we see the hostile punk rockers targeting their prey, this is extrordonarily rare. They seem to be walking toward us, possibly a threat signal. Now the-*Gets beat up*
you can't judge them just based on appearance, most aren't that bad when you get to know them... there not the mugging kind of type... all those movies you saw in the 80's depicting the punk as a criminal has polluted your mind...
It's totally not like that.
there not even hostile, your just scared of them based by appearance, they got their desired effect I guess.
@ArtistikVision I didn't mean it seriously, I'm just saying these narrators act like they're in the grasslands, hunting lions. I was mocking the narrators, not the punks.
"What they lack in brain matter between the ears, they make up for in color on top."
I had a mohawk back then, I live through it and still hold the values. As denpunk666mitsos says, "They are as far removed from Punk as you can get. Tossers."
Punk isn't just music, its a way of life. Its an attitude that stays with you and moulds the way you are
awwwyyaaa(in the suggestions bar) punk jackets, emo va punk, sex pistols-my way (even though that song does play in my head when i get into trouble), street punx,gangster skater vs punk skater i could go on and on. You know what i LOVE about punk everything related to it are seen as posers to another person.
See THE BIGGEST POOP NOSE OF THE WORLD in my channel and tell me what you think! Make your friends lost de apetite! Find in youtuBe BIGGEST SHIT NOSE OF THE WORLD
Punks are just more underground now more than ever.
RoseRed515 22 hours ago
@Joshman13Z Aye-men to Fookin' THAT
XweAp0nX 4 days ago
I searched "Punk" and a returned result was "Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger." 'Nuff said
Legitwafflez 4 days ago
@Mutt502 Yah but I sniff fook'n gloo! Fook! Fookin fookity fook!
XweAp0nX 4 days ago
Fookin cool!
XweAp0nX 4 days ago
I wonder where they are all now.
Laoch111 6 days ago
Wow :O
createDXemnas 1 week ago
where can i find the full documentary?
djkaizerLA 1 week ago
watch?v=1uU85Gx6jZY
höh- anarchy in the tc
haydabire 1 week ago
punks get a bad rap
there really about having fun and respect
locohenry 2 weeks ago
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Regginyaga 2 weeks ago
punks and the capitalist world eating consumption industry go hand in hand, just look at how punks dress, its screaming materialism, from all the subcultures i have met the punks are the biggest buyers of crap, they are useful idiots for all the multinationals and the entire capitalist consumption industry.
wielps 2 weeks ago
Three steps to kill yourself:
1: Open itunes
2: Search "Punk" in the itunes store search
3: Read what you find
4: Hate the world, hang yourself out of shear anguish and disgust for society
Punk needs a comeback because the shit i found on there wasn't punk, just bullshit. Fuck.
Joshman13Z 2 weeks ago 5
I'm A Punk - Doug Mulray is the song
AnarchyRepublic 2 weeks ago
No heroin? If you're guna do drugs at least go balls out and party with Mr Brownstone!
clintdelicious 3 weeks ago 4
I'm punk in China.
TheMagmagoblin 3 weeks ago 2
Whats the name of the FUCKING song in THE intro!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOpperdude 3 weeks ago
@TheOpperdude I am Victimised
Brannegarden 2 weeks ago
@Brannegarden from??? XD
TheOpperdude 2 weeks ago
the material for gasenvagon
HuloHulo67 3 weeks ago
Moda moda moda moda moda STOP! moda moda FUCK OFF!
alapolla21 4 weeks ago
ANARCHY-PUNK FOREVER - U DONT KNOW PUNK UNLESS U LIVE PUNK DUMBFUCKS* FUCK NAZIS =) I JUST HATE THEM THATS ALL ***
benitezdzul 1 month ago
@benitezdzul fuck your shitty ideology! nationalism for ecer
KostasTheGhost 1 month ago
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benitezdzul 1 month ago
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benitezdzul 1 month ago
How much do they spend on there hair products?
kickflipindy78 1 month ago
@kickflipindy78 True PUNK don't care how their hairstyle looks like...
slopAnkrt 1 month ago
HEY! TAKE A LOOK AT MY VIDEO! THERE ARE MANY HARDCORE PUNK SONGS! -------> /watch?v=cBxxqnv7Ln8 (<---JUST ADD youtube.com there)
dorian214340 1 month ago
@WarGoatForestWolf666 amen, brother
carrito1981 1 month ago
They should do a where are they now on them! I wonder how the glue sniffer turned out?
eric1012wi 1 month ago
That narrator is a total prick.
nekropink 1 month ago 2
it's actually kind of hilarious that every punk video on youtube, without exception, has some dipshits arguing over what is and isn't punk. i actually have more respect for glue-sniffing dumpster punks than internet punks.
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WarGoatForestWolf666 1 month ago
being punk isn't about hair or clothes, but just because someone has a mohican you can't dismiss them as a poser, like anything it comes from within, and if somebody is prepared to try to fit into something they don't like, fuck 'em they'll just end up wasting their life.
newman015 1 month ago
@newman015 true.
WarGoatForestWolf666 1 month ago
the brothers
fuckedupagain333 1 month ago
Counterculture is such bullshit.
PsychadelicBananas 1 month ago
@PsychadelicBananas What do you mean?
ChronoTriggerMusic 1 month ago
say no to glue
hollywood1199 1 month ago
wat if the guys from decline of western civilization 3 watched this
werethepunx 1 month ago
The narrator talks like the one on Animal planet...
jadrumkob 1 month ago 2
@jadrumkob thank you I think
howardfromsydney 1 month ago
anyone know where i can find the whole thing?
jsbret2729 1 month ago
@jsbret2729 in a toilet somewhere....fink they miss the point of the punk movement...Tossers!
sillydaddy100 1 month ago
@jsbret2729 That is the whole thing...it was a short story, shot on film, for the "Willesee" program, channel 9 Australia in 1985. A better re-coloured version of this is available on YouTube if you search using the correct year 1985, and key word: punk
howardfromsydney 1 month ago
:D
TheAnarchistChild 1 month ago
COOLL
INFORMERMANVESSELL 1 month ago
the narrator makes them seem like a completely different species
Claverleykid1 2 months ago
@Claverleykid1 It's not a serious documentary
MrDismemberment 1 month ago
That bass line at 2:21 is awesome and ironically suits what the narrator says!
StonesFloydZepPurple 2 months ago
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lol Im new girl in your class
ladymahajabin 2 months ago
The punk that lives his life out of a bag is a fuckin loser!
chroniccody 2 months ago
fuck ya
tyrowjames 2 months ago
not dead
tamupunk22 2 months ago
That guy at 1:20 is a nazi.
98giggity 2 months ago
@98giggity he has a swastika over the Star of David (symbol of Judaism) as a joke to Nazism
sorry for my English, I'm Chilean
angus4401 2 months ago
Rabababababalhaaahh!
RoyalWaste 2 months ago
what is this an animal planet type documentary? comon there just average punks.
MrIhaveacat 2 months ago
@MrIhaveacat It's a joke documentary.
MrDismemberment 1 month ago
@MrDismemberment no it isn't...though it cartainly has some satire in the script, so you can say it's a send up of serious English reporters, by a not so serious Aussie reporter.
howardfromsydney 1 month ago
I take drugs and get drunk. Im a punk!
Mutt502 2 months ago 25
@Mutt502 Punk, not Junk!
xOldHerolDx 2 months ago
@Mutt502 punks dead hahahaha
SoCalxSidewinder 2 months ago
@Mutt502 I take drugs but not drink, and not a punk :)
Coml3teBliss 2 months ago
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HanoverFist247 2 weeks ago
Punk is not Dead
Croatia56 2 months ago
Punk Funk Drunk Skunk Chunk Crunk FUCK YOUR MONK!!!
Travmapunk 2 months ago
hilarious commentary, i hope people don't take this serious hahaha.
gumbootiner 2 months ago
Police won't leave me alone!!!! Chaos UK is the shit.
jackrm 2 months ago
he is a glue man! ahahahah
S00neX 2 months ago
lool have big eyes with love inside
190tombuvens147 2 months ago
@SouthardJon AS WELL AS YOUR BRAIN, MORON.
crasshater77 2 months ago
cool!
youmann09 2 months ago
in 0:29 he sings "never understood" by the Mob
Misikuta 2 months ago
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well i am a lonely girl from the uk
loveilybabi1989 3 months ago
HEY CHECK OUT MY CHANNEL MAINLY MY ABOUT ME IF YOUR INTO PUNK AND SHIT AND TIRED OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY THIS DAY IN AGE, WE NEED TO UNITE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...THANKS
frusc1ant33 3 months ago
@frusc1ant33 ey fuck off
Petegrin1 3 months ago
MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL WHOSE THE GREATEST PUNK OF THEM ALL NOT THE ONE WITH THE MOHAWK TRYING TO FIT IN, BUT THE TRUE PUNK FROM WITHIN.
IronGodSlayer 3 months ago 7
:P
xplayer7 3 months ago
the house looks like the place where they shot the dudes late mums house in 'The Infidel'
SPuNx69 3 months ago
anyone knows the songs which appear during the documentary maybe ???
65theDoors 3 months ago
@65theDoors the song played by the punk on the bass guitar is Chaos UK - "victimised", at 0:29 the punk is singing "never understood" by the Mob, and the song that starts at 1:37 is Doug Murlay " I'm a punk" ,
Misikuta 2 months ago
@Misikuta awesome, thanks for the information !!
65theDoors 2 months ago
if you look close theres a line threw the swastiqua. meaning fuck all skin haeds. there all spacemonkyes
ThePunk0500 3 months ago
@ThePunk0500 Na the swastiqua's covering a st. davids star mate.
PopInTheClouds 3 months ago
They all seem Lovely :P
MenaPaws21 3 months ago
HA
JustAnotherPunKer 3 months ago
This is not nazi puns they just wear the swastiquas like Sid vicious
MrThemadpunk 3 months ago
@MrThemadpunk and prince harry
JustAnotherPunKer 3 months ago
nazis OUT OF PUNK !
RejectedOff 3 months ago
@RejectedOff COMMIES TOO !!!
crasshater77 2 months ago
Fuck off nazi punks
justjoking23 3 months ago
@justjoking23 PUNK`S NOT RED!
crasshater77 2 months ago
what is the name of the song in the beggining??
Whenicomaroundiscool 3 months ago
@Whenicomaroundiscool chaos uk - victimized
chillamsiga 3 months ago
@chillamsiga thank you!
Whenicomaroundiscool 3 months ago
@SouthardJon and your opinion with it.
ArtistikVision 3 months ago
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Punks are exactly that in a fight. punk pussy bitches. Ive stomped so many while they bleed and twitch because there braincord has been severed. sitting there writhing in pain shaking in pain foaming at the mouth. Im fully willing to be violent towards the scum of society
J1zzardOfOz 3 months ago
Punks are exactly that in a fight. punk pussy bitches. Ive stopped so many while they bleed and twitch because there braincord has been severed. sitting there writhing in pain shaking in pain foaming at the mouth. Im fully willing to be violent towards the scum of society
J1zzardOfOz 3 months ago
@J1zzardOfOz ooo your a big man... talking of us as scum of the society... no, i'm pretty sure rapist, murder's and pedophiles hold that title.
Your boasting of the internet, in that, I can judge that you probably never have been in a fight, or, you simply brag over the internet to make up for what you would never do in real life.
Now i'm sure your going to have some douchebag comment in response, that or your going to start off by threatening me.
all i gotta say is
I don't give a fuck.
ArtistikVision 3 months ago
@J1zzardOfOz Your comment made me laugh, I know for a fact you haven't done any of the shit you just said. By the way, after I'm done squatting 405lbs and benching 315 at the gym I throw in my studded leather jacket with my green hair, does that make you mad pussy? I'd knock your fuckin head off your shoulders if you talked to me or anyone else like that.
kdlt235 2 months ago
@J1zzardOfOz if you hate punks so much, then why bother clicking on this video?
punkrocker539 2 months ago
IV GOT DARK PARANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAA
MCshlthead 3 months ago
KE BUEN VIDEO PENSAR KE YA STAN TODOS MUERTOS!!! ES ASI EL "PUNKS NOT DEAD" LXS PUNKS SI........
IWAL
EL PUNK HA MUERTO?? VIVA EL PUNK VIVO O MUERTO
ALEPUNKY77 3 months ago
carboard cut out punks.....in the 70's for original creators it was more about wanting to look different.. the key thing is to wear clothes opposite to the current trend your high street sells...if everyone wears flairs you wear tight. it's often based on a economy.. things out of fashion are cheaper, being a student mainly of art or fashion you wants some thing cool to wear you go places like second hand stores with some even modifying clothes to stand out then bang new scene.
Hoxtonligger 3 months ago
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@eatmeimsteak skin half of your head
eljefe5751 3 months ago
can somebody help because i keep fucking failing at this? im trying to find a hair cut that will freak people out like mohawks did in the 80's ... i've tried the mohawk and people said i t looks cool or im trying to rebel, i've tried just leaving random patches on my head and people said they liked how artistic it looked...HELP I WANT TO FUCKING FREAK PEOPLE OUT AGAIN LIKE I DID WHEN I WAS YOUNGER!
eatmeimsteak 3 months ago
@eatmeimsteak no chance since there is the internet and you can see all manner of stuff like peoples extreme accidents... people eating poo over each other,executions and people doing ungodly stuff to animals to name a few nothing much shocks people nowadays.
Hoxtonligger 3 months ago
@eatmeimsteak lol
what was unfashionable at the time, is now fashionable, and is seen as a statement to "rebel". i often am offended when people say this.
I rebel out of my "ideals". not the clothes I wear, or the hairstyle i have.
ArtistikVision 3 months ago
Posh cunts
darkdante23 3 months ago
Now we see the hostile punk rockers targeting their prey, this is extrordonarily rare. They seem to be walking toward us, possibly a threat signal. Now the-*Gets beat up*
DanManThePurple 3 months ago
@DanManThePurple lol...
you can't judge them just based on appearance, most aren't that bad when you get to know them... there not the mugging kind of type... all those movies you saw in the 80's depicting the punk as a criminal has polluted your mind...
It's totally not like that.
there not even hostile, your just scared of them based by appearance, they got their desired effect I guess.
ArtistikVision 3 months ago
@ArtistikVision I didn't mean it seriously, I'm just saying these narrators act like they're in the grasslands, hunting lions. I was mocking the narrators, not the punks.
DanManThePurple 2 months ago
Hilarious !!
keelferm 3 months ago
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"What they lack in brain matter between the ears, they make up for in color on top."
I had a mohawk back then, I live through it and still hold the values. As denpunk666mitsos says, "They are as far removed from Punk as you can get. Tossers."
Punk isn't just music, its a way of life. Its an attitude that stays with you and moulds the way you are
GraemeSmithereenz 3 months ago
I like Cyril the glue-man
slideharp1 3 months ago
what sing!! 0:00-1:30
knevenom 3 months ago
This is my favorite
redgreenbrownblue 3 months ago
Punk never die!!!!!!!!!!
BrutalDeathMetal1000 3 months ago
They are as far removed from Punk as you can get. Tossers.
denpunk666mitsos 3 months ago
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hrm i can make you go crazy
132tomcalligy547 3 months ago
f... shitheads. was there at that time on the kings , they won't work then
FTMedge 4 months ago
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knevenom 4 months ago
@knevenom chaos U.K victimized
PunkRat1991 3 months ago
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knevenom 3 months ago
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knevenom 3 months ago
what is the song what the punx sing?
knevenom 4 months ago
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@knevenom chaos U.K "victimized"
PunkRat1991 3 months ago
FUCK NAZI PUNKS!
CrAzZzZzZy94 4 months ago
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Quem acredita na união Punk da um joinha.
Who believes in the union of a positive vote Punk.
Кто верит в объединение положительным голосованием Punx
SUPERPUNKIL 4 months ago
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SUPERPUNKIL 4 months ago
Punks,not,dead!!
kadotahiyori0212 4 months ago
hahaha hes just a fucking capitalist selling pictures ....silly cunt.
MrGoldfish1984 4 months ago 2
tHEY ARE A PEICE OF ART WORK.VERY NICE.
susangrewal86 4 months ago
awwwyyaaa(in the suggestions bar) punk jackets, emo va punk, sex pistols-my way (even though that song does play in my head when i get into trouble), street punx,gangster skater vs punk skater i could go on and on. You know what i LOVE about punk everything related to it are seen as posers to another person.
Super25man 4 months ago
wheres the rest of the doc? and nobody better say up your ass!
TroijanSkinhead 4 months ago
which is the name of the song they are singing in the very beginning of the video?? 00:01 To 00:08
Thank you
KloakaAlkolikaHC 4 months ago
Oh, man.. These guys are FACKING AWESOME I so want my jacket to be like theres..
MindSeeR666 4 months ago
what an awful stereotype there. why cudnt they be unique like vicious was?
ShitbagsGroup 4 months ago
Im just wondering did punks and mods hate or like eachother?
Hazzasproductions 4 months ago
@Hazzasproductions of course they did, punks were out load fucked up rebels and mods were cunts on scooters
JonnysMADps 4 months ago
@JonnysMADps hey mods are epic and punk is what i believe so fuck off
Hazzasproductions 4 months ago
@Hazzasproductions just saying if a punk saw a mod on a scooter going down the street they would not welcome him with open arms ...
JonnysMADps 4 months ago
@JonnysMADps meh i can be both
Hazzasproductions 4 months ago
@Hazzasproductions just be yourself :p
JonnysMADps 4 months ago
wow this video is like another era, esp for London, I wonder what these guys and gals are up to now :D
thisfoolterence 4 months ago
@thisfoolterence they are dead!
407rudeboy 4 months ago
Doug mulray is the songwriter :)
1982punkdestroy 4 months ago
those dudes had some awesome haircuts thats forsure
n1k0zyrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 4 months ago
mierda!!!!!!!!
urenodhc 4 months ago
Anyone know the song at the beginning?
StretchDouche 4 months ago
somebody know which song is the first on?
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colecionadordecacas 4 months ago
Punk is not dead... Its on life support.
LordWellington15 4 months ago
tan bn locos estos weyes
chunkilover123 4 months ago
Great memories.... Now Check out
Strangeways, Wills and Kate wedding tribute - on youtube Thefrankjohnsonmusic videos
And ask if that spirit has died....Recommended!!!!
TheFrankjohnsonmusic 4 months ago
(:
flukephoto 4 months ago
AND IT WAS NOT JUDAS PRIST these punks to overcome his punk music: P FOREVER HEAVJ METALL
12345hammerfall 4 months ago
@12345hammerfall punk's and metalhead's united
anajuanmiguel 4 months ago
The question is, "where are they now"......? I would to see a follow up to these people.
brettyboy01 4 months ago
'business punks'
'apprentice punks'
....
bullshit.
shymoonbeam 4 months ago
Aww shit. Business punks!
0neinthechamber 4 months ago
this is so fucking good
wordofpalm 4 months ago
what is the first song?? i love the bass line!
Ryuk789546 4 months ago
@Ryuk789546 victimized by chaos uk
JimmyMcEmoson 4 months ago
@JimmyMcEmoson
Thanks!
Ryuk789546 4 months ago
Church-State anti-cannabis parasites are openly corrupt repugnant insolent criminal zealot Cunts
chappo888 4 months ago
2:23 that guy is playing "Alternative Ulster" by Stiff Little Fingers!
AddictedToTheOi138 4 months ago
the 80's were the product of cocaine haha
curiouscasemusic 4 months ago
care e name
MrRazvan722 4 months ago
Church-State anti-cannabis parasites are openly corrupt repugnant insolent criminal Cunts
chappo888 4 months ago
id love to see a doc about these guys nowadays
wotsgonon1 4 months ago 2
okay....were punk....NOT A DIFFERENT SPECIE!! [and yeah, I cant spell]
dylanRejected 4 months ago
2:30 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Veexxxdutch 4 months ago
It is easy to be a punk in a country of 1 world, I see here in Brazil!!! veryhard.....
fernandowolf44 4 months ago
Punk 4ever :D
thomas41681 4 months ago
4:59?? name of the song...
punkbasuriego666 4 months ago
care e manele
MrRazvan722 4 months ago
@punkbasuriego666 im a punk by doug mulray
TheReaperBrandon 4 months ago
best quote "its hard to know who stands a greater chance of contracting an infectious disease, the punks or the rats" hahahahahaha
eaataaafjbob 5 months ago
punks dont have numbers but they are as strong as ever
TheReaperBrandon 5 months ago 2
punk street Oi! Oi! Oi!
670marouane 5 months ago