die hohe warscheinlichkeit ist immer noch ,das hitler mit diesen flugzeug nach japan geflogen sei,nur dieses flugzeug ist für langstreckenflüge geeignet,es könnten sogar 5 stück dafon gebaut worden sein ,wie es eine 0 sere vörsied.weiterhin gibts noch keuin endbeweis wo hitler hingekommen ist,alles unbewiesen die tehsen und zusammenfassungen.
Possibly originally meant to deliver the 'TUNGUSKA' weapon that Boss Tweed's stolen Bearer Bonds developed but instead two were sailed into London (By Hess 2-weeks before Scotland) & into Manhattan by Mussolini after he was supposedly dead & of course everyone knows Germany lost the war but the Nazis & their Illuminati financiers won it & continued to play 'CHAOS' verses 'CONTROL' ever since with double cross & counter double cross keeping the average Masons so confused most still don't get it.
und auch wenn der arshloch mit seinem kleinen Schnurbart nach argentinien geflogen wäre ist doch egal der blöde heini ist auf alle fälle gestorben jetzt
Germany used to be a great nation but was gutted in ww1 and never fully recovered and was weaker in ww2 and now it's a police state where if you question the holocaust you go to jail.
Yeah, cos that's the one true definition of 'Police state' huh?
Jeez some of you guys are so twisted.
Lucky for you you never experienced a true 'Police state'.....like the German one from 1933 - 1945 where what you are born as (not what you say or do) could see you & your family killed.
Germany is actually a very progressive & free country these days.....and if the price of that is shutting up idiot nazi-fanboys then tought luck sunshine, nobody cares.
InfantileMushHead, as once said on S.N.L. " Shroom you ignoRANT slut. Next to Moron in ALL dictionaries should be a picture of your,s drooly !!!! PLEASE do humanity a favor. DON'T EEEEEVER HAVE CHILDREN, THAT IS IF THERE'S A FEMALE SOOOOOOO DESPERATE SHE HAS TO LOWER HERSELF TO ALLOW YOU TO CRUSH HER FAITH IN INTELLIGENT LIFE IS POSSIBLE AMONG INBREED MORONS SUCH AS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should enjoy hell, you,ll fit right in.
Ccuntmore, you are so inbreed it,s unbelievable you can walk upright. PAY ATTENTION DORK. EVERY society that has attempted the destruction of the Jewish people have ended getting SPANKED BY GOD and ended up history and the Jews are still here. I,n Christian and know God has plans for them post second coming. Please, feel free to exterminate your self so you don't breed by going to Israel and telling them your moronic B.S. !!!
@pinwizz69 Nice to know you can faithfully repeat the low-grade sophomoric Zionist propaganda of TBN and 700 Club. The U.S. has been saturated with Zionist propaganda since 1948. Even the term, "Judeo-Christian" is a religious and doctrinal hoax. Joseph Goebbels can't hold a candle to the intensity of hype in support of modern day Israel and giving the Jews a blank check.
The creation of secular Israel is the greatest fraud that has deceived all but the very elect.
the range of this bomber was supposed to be exactly 18,000 miles. it's payload, either a nuclear bomb or a dirty bomb. this bomber would have meant death to the allies f the war lasted only one more year. the germans may have won. just think about it. we could all be speaking german if we didn't beat them to the atom bomb.
@panzerking1218 LOL this supposed bomber like all german bombers in WW2 was garbage The US had best bomber in WW2 the B29 and was developing the B36 bomber that could fly from US non stop bomb germany and return with 70.000 pound pay load, war last one more year germany is nuked and completly destroyed.
@jers59 . I guess since planes like the JU390 or the HE 177 never made it beyond the prototype stage and since the B29 was never used in the European thearter and the B36 Peace Maker never flew a combat mission we'll never know.
Even though the lend lease program was a huge blow to Nazi-Germany in operation Barbarossa, had Goring & Milch saw the significance of strategic bombing rather than just tactical, the Ju-290/390 would have done great job on hitting Soviet industry beyond the Urals
yes it might have escaped US day fighters: presumably though by that stage of the war it would have then been shot sh*tless whilst crossing GB/France by the RAF and USAF fighters there?
@timboexit17 in order to hit the US, she would launch form the portion of Southern France that juts out into the Atlantic, bypassing the Allied fighters entirely. then all she would have to worry about were planes off escort carriers.
Nice looking plane, but just as well for Germany that it didn't go into production and bomb the USA, as it would have been easy picking for fighter planes
@Poopingbotham It would have bombed the US east coast under cover of darkness so attacks from regular day fighters would have been unlikely. It's ability to significantly disrupt US production of war materials is debatable however it would have caused the US to divert a lot of resources to the east coast such as fighter aircraft both day/night, significant anti-aircraft batteries and people to clear up the damage caused. Essentially things needed for the war effort in Europe.
There are few nations; races (whatever) who are free from wrong doings. People of ill intent will use half baked and biased studies of history to cause trouble instead of learning from it. They ignore that Britain has evolved as a nation and makes great strides towards racial intigration while their own countries are full of racial and religious spite and hate! Learn from the past with an eye on the future otherwise you have learnt nothing!
....Nach glaubwürdigen Berichten startete eine Ju 390 (V-2 oder V-3) am 2. Mai 1945 von Bodo (Norwegen) mit 4 Mann-Besatzung und einer Geheimfracht. Nach einem Zwischenaufenthalt zum Auftanken in Villa Cisneros (Span. Sahara) ging es weiter nach Uruguay, wo die blaugestrichene und mit schwedischen Kennungen versehene Maschine am 4. Mai 1945 an einen Ort unweit der argentinischen Grenze wohlbehalten aufsetzte. Dort wurde abgewrackt, um keine unnötigen Spuren zu hinterlassen.
@Staendhart Ob Hitler noch lebte oder nicht spielt doch keine Rolle. Interessanter ist eher ob die Geheimfracht das verschollene Gold und andere Wertsachen die verschollen sind beinhaltet hat.
Why is everyone arguing about a history that's already written. Do I feel guilty about my nations history of 70, 100, 200, 300 years ago? No, why? Because it's not in my living memory nor is it my generation. History is there to be studied and learned from to make sure that WE, today, and future generations, do not make the same mistakes. Instead of pointless arguing, lets try and our energy into creating a better FUTURE for us all regardless of colour, religion or race.
@dcanmore; history will continue to repeat itself to greater and greater extremes so long as jews walk this planet. As long as they walk the earth there will be NO PEACE!
@dcanmorYou don`t have to feel guilty about Your nation history. Germany is a Great country and a Germans r great people. The history that You`ve mentioned is not written only by Your nation, the rest of the world hase the same responsability if something went wrong or good. It was all about money...as any other conflict.
@dcanmore you wrong, the war is comming again and its going to be soon, for color, religion or race, and asspecially for poor and milliardiers, rivers of blood will flow again
@dcanmore We continue to make the same mistakes. The only thing that changes in the history of humans is technology. We are still the blood-thirsty, greedy, egomaniacs we have been since the Bible. The human brain has not evolved one bit. More thean likey because it hasn't had too. We have been at the top since after the last Ice Age. If we are to contuinue to thrive we have to finnaly cast off the shackles of fear and realizing our own mortality. The two main causes for War,and hatred.
@dcanmore We really do need to stop the "in hindsight" fingure pointing. Drilling miles out into the ocean, Nuclear Plants melting down and using Dinosaur crap to make electricity and run our cars, We need to utilize the Sun more, along with the wind and perpetutal motion. Our generation has the burden of over 50 years of mistakes. I'm working on aqauculture and growing Prawn in the water and tomatoes and corn on top with a 95% return on my rcurculatory system each growing season. Anyone else?
@FadeToGrayLLC perpetual motion machines don't work since they violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. I agree about fossil fuels though, but nuclear power has an underservedly bad reputation due to errors in the early days, we know how to do a better job now. Which is a good thing, since despite what you or I think, nuclear power is very much back on the agenda ( at least where I live in the UK -- we're joining forces with France to massively ramp up nuke production).
Did ze Germans call it a Trans-Atlantic bomber? I thought it was a heavy-lift (or fleeing NAZI - pack everything on to one flight and get the hell out of town) plane
@AdamSavage88 You really need to do your research more carefully. First use of larynx radio was in the US Army Airforce B17's & B24's. Laser range finders were a modern development of a concept first used in the Dam Buster raid where two aldis lamps were fitted on the underside of the Lancaster bombers to converge at a preset height. Smooth bore guns for tanks....hmmm - most accurate tank gun with longest range is the rifled gun on the British Challenger.
@AdamSavage88 Yeah right - like the Tank, (Britain), Heavy Bomber (Britain), Battleship (Britain), Aircraft carrier (Britain), Submarine (Britain), Radar (Britain) Sonar (Britain). What Germany did was to devote most of it's effort and resources into war materials when other Countries were focusing on more civilized things - that is why they were ahead of rest - they prepared for war whilst others tried for peace. By the way - the Ju390 was a flying nightmare for pilots.
@tomburley Not only do you spout the British propaganda about invention of military equipment, but you then spill the rubbish that they spent so much on military things. The British navy was HUGE at over 15 times the floating tonnage. In comparison the Kriegsmarine was TINY even at its largest size. It was just MORE EFFECTIVE.. British spending was "civilized"? German was not?. What's more (I'm and economist) you spout nonsense about German spending on military.
@tomburley Even after the build-up by 1939, the Wehrmancht has FEWER men and FEWER tanks that the French alone, never mind the Polish forces at 60% of Germany's. HItler had 32% unemployment going into January 1933 and spent on home renovations and infrastructure like autobahns and electrical dams to get the country going again. Germany was spending to "catch-up" and re-combining the pre-WW I, pre Versailles Germany to take its position in Europe. Your version is British rubbish.
@historatia "My version" ??? try factual version. Hitler broke the Treaty of Versailles and built up massive modern forces for one reason only - to wage war. His brilliant economic rebuilding plan created massive inflation of the D-Mak which saw it being taken off the world exchange making it basically worthless outside of Germany. French military of 900,000 active service men and 4,200 tanks (max gun power 37mm and most were 1920's models) Hitler had 4,500,000 men and 2,500 modern tanks,
@tomburley Yes "Your version!". Hitler's goal was to recombine and rebuild the German state that the stupidity and grotesquen unfairness of Versailles had foolishly imposed. For example, forcing Danzig a 98% German populated city to be a "free state" but under Polish control for foreign affairs??? Dumb. To move 3 million Germans with ancient roots in Sudentenland to create Czechoslovakia was ridiculous. (Notice that in 1993 it ceased to exist AGAIN.) Your is NOT a "factual version".
@tomburley The German inflation was in the 1920's, NOT during Hitler's time, and no less that Emeritus Professor of Cambridge, Joan Robinson noted the Hitler, who began with a 31% unemployment in january 1933 (courtesy of the allies and their anti-German Conference of Genoa) noted his enormous success in rebuilding the German economy without inflation. (I'm and economist.) Where do you get this nonsense. Is this American indoctrinations?
@tomburley Your data is nonsense. The French had not only built the Maginot, but with their draft service they had 5.1 million men fully trained. Read Gamelin's (French military chief) memoirs for one of many sources. The French were the worlds second largest tank producers had the newest, best, and widest range both Infantry and Cavalry. The Renault 35 and the SOMUA S35 and Char B were the best tanks around until the Panzer IV. and YES the French had 4200 to the German 2500.
@tomburley I repeat "Your version"... You really should study up on this stuff a little before you accept all that British blather as "fact'. In the 30's the French alone OUTSPENT the Germans on military, not to mention the British empire spending. Get it through your head that the Germans -- who did NOT start WWI but were made to pay for it as their role in Europe was DELIBERATELY and foolishly weakend by Versailles has every RIGHT to pull back together its territories and people.
@tomburley Finally, Britain committed the greatest stupidity when warmonger Churchill refused the peace offer when Hilter sent Hess over. THAT, and the American support of Stalin was the greatest horror ever visited on European peoples. The consequence for Britain -- as Hitler predicted it would be -- was that it lost its empire, and India was gone in less than 24 months. Good Work! -- and keeping the Hess papers under lock and key until 2017. We are all waiting.
@historatia Your ignorance and stupidity is almost unbelievable.
Hitler broke the Treaty of Versailles. Then annexed the region of Czechoslovakia known as Sudetenland then signed the Munich agreement promising to expand no further which he then broke and invaded Poland which brought a state of war between Germany and both France and Britain - British PM was Chamberlain.
When Hess flew to Scotland it was to try to persuade Britain to join with Germany - Glad we didn't accept his "invite"
@tomburley 1. What is to you "unbelievable" comes from the ultimate stupidity of swallowing the British propaganda. Go read Niall Ferguson's works (Harvard history professor) on this subject. Hitler walked away from Versailles BECAUSE the Big 3 WERE NOT MEETING THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THE DEFENSE OF THE GERMAN MINORITIES through the League of Nations in former German territories (Poland, Sudentenland, Silesia, or even the Saarland. 2. You clearly haven't read the Munich Agreement.
@tomburley You are "happy" you didn't accept his invite? Owning that decision makes YOU responsibility for the Bolschevik communist enslavement of central and eastern Europe for two generations! Proud?. YOU are responsible for the collapse of the British Empire. Smart? So now YOU live on and Island so reduced that it hasn't its own successful auto industry or build airplanes, and is rapidly headed for obscurity. Enjoy your fate. Pull the plug and let "has been" Britain sink.
@tomburley Has it EVER occurred to you that Versailles was the most gigantic mistake making another WAR IN EUROPE INEVITABLE? Most historians conclude that. David Lloyd George said it in his speech at the Conference of Genoa already in 1923!! warning the Poles about their eastern Aggression. You sound like the least knowledgable dumbass on YouTube. You did know that Germany was guaranteed access accross the corridor and Poland CLOSED the routes?? You did know that?? Dumbass
@historatia And do you know WHY Poland closed the route - because Germany reneged on payments due to Poland - in modern day that would be called sanctions. Versailles treaty was obviously not a great success however but that did not give Germany the right to go to war - just an excuse. Germany opted to make the rest of Europe suffer for Germany's previous mistakes and aggression rather than its own people. Went well for them in the end didn't it?
@tomburley You speak pure bunk, The payments to Poland were suddenly demand in Gold and even the US dollar or German supplies of commodities was refused. Your view is based entirely on the assumption of deliberate German evil intent rather than any rational historical factual basis. The "previous mistakes" were NOT German mistakes (go read David Lloyd George and AJP Taylor again!) Germany was very unjustly treated for purposes of British power politics.
@historatia Of course Poland refused to accept German marks as payment - hyper inflation created by Hitler meant the German mark was worthless outside of Germany (which is why it was removed from the Gold Standard). As for Germany being "very unjustly treated" well maybe if they hadn't gone to war in 1914 to begin with they wouldnot have received the treatment. FACT - Germany twice opted for aggression to solve problems of it's own making.
@tomburley You have absolutely NO GRASP of FACTS. The hyperinflation you speak of occurred in the 1920's NOT during Hitler's period. Has it occurred to you that Germany went to war in 1914 for the same reason that Brittain claims to have done so in 1939, namely because of the requirements of alliances she had made? I guess not. I don't think you have enough cogent ability to 'reason' to make any further conversation productive or relevant.
@historatia Austro Hungarian forces invaded Serbia sparked by Arch Duke Ferdinands assassination. Germany then invaded Belgium, Luxembourg and France. - Yeah that sure sounds the same reason for Britain going to war to defend Poland.
Also I said that the hyper inflation in Germany was the reason Poland refused to accept payments other than gold. Hitler's Nazi party, whilst notin power in the 20's was againt Versailles treaty and encouraged worker strikes that helped destablize german mark.
@tomburley Your "propaganda" style shows up in what you OMIT.. namely that Russia had mobilized even BEFORE Austria quite rightly invaded Serbia. Imagine with Victoria on the throne and the Prince of Wales being murdered on a state visit to Spain. Would Britain have said "OK, well that's fine?". Then you missed the fact that the Russian-French ALLIANCE -- starting with Russia attacked Germany BEFORE the Germans marched on France through Belgium. Don't OMIT the key facts!
@historatia Austria declared war on Serbia July 28th. Russia, as ally of Serbia,mobilized its forces on July 29th but did not attack anyone. Germany declares war on Russia August 1st & demands France (Russias ally) stays neutral - Strange that Germany didn't feel the need to stay neutral (or Russia for that matter) France refuses & mobilizes forces. Germany declares war on France August 3rd. Germany invades neutral Belgium August 4th prompting Britain to declare war on Germany.
@tomburley Your propaganda also misses the key fact that it was utterly irresponsible of the British/ Americans to DELIBERATELY undermine the very "self-determination" rights of the Danzig and West Prussian people on which basis the Armistice was entered into to cause FUTURE trouble on Gemany's east. This was not only STUPID politics, but in the end quite right COST BRITAIN HER EMPIRE and converted her into the weak has-been that she is today. SMART?? David Lloyd George later AGREED.
@tomburley Your propaganda is doing what? Hiding the fact that from all of the troubles of the period 1914-1945 the BIG loser in the European theatre is.......wait for it ..... NOT Germany, but BRITAIN (with most of its remnant industries owned by German and American firms, ...... AND ,,,, wait for it .... the WORLD that is ever grateful that the ENSLAVING GENOCIDAL British Empire is no more... GOOD result for most of the World.
@historatia So now it's "proaganda" is it? You don't need to tell me what Britain sacrificed to protect the rights and freedoms of the people in Europe. Yes the "Empire" was severely deminished but that merely served to allow those Countries to take the lead in running their own country - having had an effective infrastructure developed for them. Britain was the first nation to abolish slavery. Tell me of this "genocide" by Britain - that comment is so hypercritical I am almost left speachless.
@tomburley I will give you TWO quick examples of your "benevolent" empire. 1. In North American-- now Ontario, during the French English wars in 18th Century the benevolent British went in and as a "gift" passed around smallpox laden blankets. Hundreds of thousands of thosands of North American natives, women, kids, old people warriors died in the epidemic that followed.
@historatia Whilst some people actually believe this stories no one believes tem to have been a deliberate act. Unlike Nazi Germany who deliberately gases several million Jews.
@tomburley WRONG WRONG and WRONG. Only the barest of research into biological warfare will show up the copies of the original letters (quilled) that expressly ordered the use of germ warfare on the North American natives as a mechanism of mass killing. "British commander Lord Jeffrey Amherst and Swiss-British officer Colonel Henry Bouquet certainly discussed this, in the course of Pontiac's Rebellion;
@tomburley " Historian Francis Parkman verifies four letters from June 29, July 13, 16 and 26th, 1763. Excerpts: Commander Lord Jeffrey Amherst writes July 16, 1763, "P.S. You will Do well to try to Inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race. PROOF AND LOTS OF IT.
@tomburley Tomburley I can give you truckloads of proof for every instance I bring up. Google Emily Hobhouse and you will read the truth as it is in British Hansard also. In South Africa the Kitchener ran 34 killing camps as bad or worse than Hitler's. And what was the British public reaction?
@tomburley "A Baptist minister in Liverpool, said on 22 December 1901, Peace Sunday: "Great Britain cannot win the battles without resorting to the last despicable cowardice of the most loathsome cur on earth—the act of striking a brave man's heart through his wife's honour and his child's life. The cowardly war has been conducted by methods of barbarism... the concentration camps have been Murder Camps." Afterwards, a crowd followed him home and broke the windows of his house."
@tomburley And any Britisher like you have the GALL to smear the character of the Germans who have at least the defense that THE PUBLIC WAS NOT TOLD, whereas in BRITAIN THE PUBLIC WAS TOLD AND CHEERED ON THE GENOCIDE. Your propaganda blinds you by ignoring the hideous horrors of your empire past. EVERYBODY but BRITS believe the truth. Your are the blackest pot calling the kettle black. SHAME on you. Some people who refuse to live in Canada's City of "Kitchener" because of the STENCH.
@historatia So - let me get this right...your defence and reason for Germany starting WWII is that the British intentionally used blankets that they could infect with small pox to eradicate all N American Indians some 160 years earlier? Or is it because of the methods used during the Boar War? In both cases, if accurate, at least the British were targetting an actual enemy with whom they were at war with and not a whole race who had shown no aggression towards them.
@tomburley First, your extrapolations are ridiculous, as I never claimed that as a "defense and reason" for anything. I provided you with one shovelful facts from the mountain (1) to prove that unlike your claim, the British did commit horrendous GENOCIDAL ATROCITIES, and (2) that the world knew that they were DELIBERATE. Now you have the "gall" to declare that legitimate war as these were "actual enemies". They were NOT! They were vicitms of BRITISH AGGRESSION!
@tomburley Should I take this as 'British Reasoning'? First you declare peoples unjustifiably attacked by the British 'enemies', -- and thus valid targets -- rather than VICTIMS. Second you ACTUALLY JUSTIFIED BRITISH ACTS OF GENOCIDE. Third despite the British use of the teem "execrable race" (which I QUOTED) you can say it was "not a whole race"? I guess that is "British literacy" from one of those referred to in my business call "cement heads".
@historatia Again you try to deflect away from the facts & avoid answering the points I listed. 1.The Indians were aiding the French and as such were the enemies of Britain. 2. If you had read my comments you would have seen an important "if accurate" phrase - thus I was not justifying a fact merely commenting on your allegation. 3. You obviously do not know what execrable means - when in context it can simply mean 'unpleasant', 'disagreeable', wreched' or 'woeful'. Hardly relates to Genocide.
@tomburley You seem completely devoid of understanding. The exact terms of my QUOTE include the term "extirpate" and if you had a basic understanding of English you would know that meant "to kill them all" while the word RACE shows up next. You had claimed that the British didn't murder millions based on "race" and you are WRONG. Many think that the British are an "execrable" race, using the first word (derived from "to excrete" or "shit" in your lingo) and "race" as usual.
@historatia I think that stupid idiotic response sums up your whole myopic logic. "wretched race" does not constitute genocide. By your logic, saying "execrable weather" would mean eradication of all weather - murder of the rain or wind?? You really do need to open your eyes and look past an individual statment that "suits your idiology". Oh - and back to the original point no-one but Hitler's Nazi Germany is to blame for the war in Europe. You have failed to give any valid reason otherwise.END
@historatia There are inexhaustible numbers of "cement head" allies who know the truth about German aggression, and are prepared to respond to it in any form it happens to appear. Your total capitulation to the mental illness that was fascism may have reduced you to a slavering beast, but it also reveals your true nature for the rest of the world to see. Meglomania is hard to hide, and it's always ugly.
@thszntatst Cetainly megalomania is hard to hide Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, Hitler, Idi Amin, Castro, George W Bush, Gaddafi . The list goes on. The "cements heads" that become followers and "believers" of any one will always claim a Mother Teresa "good" status for the action of their own and declare the enemies of their own as "evil" and "aggressive". Cement had always RESTATE their beliefs IN LIEU OF LEARNING ANYTHING to open their minds. Are YOU a "cement head"???
@thszntatst You express your "conviction" of what you are convinced is the "truth", but judged ONLY by your own standard of good and evil. Can you not understand that Hitler set about putting back together a nation of his people that had been subjected to ridiculous vengeance at the end or 1918? Just like the Vietnamese who fought the COMPLETELY UNJUST FRENCH OCCUPATION AND AMERICAN AGGRESSION at a cost of 3,100,000 lives? CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?
@tomburley The fun part in reading your final response is that it betrays your complete discomfort of having BRITISH GENOCIDE brought out of the closet. You seek to deny it even when the words on the page are clear. The British use of germ warfare was intended to eradicate a "race" that it thought of as "Untermenschen". Britain wasn't at "war" with enemy Boer Republics, In a bestial aggressive act it destroyed another people, and used the MURDEROUS CONCENTRATION CAMPS to do it.
@tomburley As the power of world-media slip from the Anglo-American grasp and the formerly British and American oppressed and savaged peoples (Germany, India, China, Indonesia, etc. take their place at the table, the whole of the inculcated fabricated falsehoods of "greatness of Britain" and "greatness of America" will be repainted for the savage oppression and genocide as they really were, (and still partly are). Your "British" self-image is an illusion, not historical truth.
@historatia To put it simply, you have such a warped ideology that blinds you of anything corrupt within your belief structure. You imply that India would have been a land of etopia is only Britain had not been involved and that China has been oppressed by external forces. I find it hard to accept that you really are so naive and yet for each comment you make you merely serve to prove it more and more. I have no more time for your childish behaviour. Grow up and stop whinning.
@tomburley To put it simpler for you, you are remarkably ignorant of history. China, until the boxer rebellion 1911 was partitioned by European powers and exploited. Sun Yat Sun rescued it from that ignominy, led by the British exploiters. Indian culture thrived until the British East India Company succeeded in getting the British government to get involved, destroying the magnificant India that is only now slowly starting to reform and arise. I'm not naive at all.
@tomburley Are you so dumb that you don't read what Indian historians write, what Nobel Prize winners like Amartya Sen (Cambridge) write? Except for where a significant part of the population stock has British roots, the history books do not paint a flattering picture of British oppression period, the use of actual or de facto slave labour, the controlled commerce that denied their right to trade except through London, You're truly ignorant!
@tomburley 2. In 1943, with WWII on, the British did ration controls on food in India. In 1943 when starvation struck, Churchill REFUSED to release the emergency supplies requisitioning it for the war effort. An estimated 4.3 million people dies of starvation. I guess you "We are the sweet British" propaganda didn't cover that eh? Its amazing to me that you don't know this and are shocked to hear it. Why do you think that Ghandi's writing about it were CENSORED in Britain.
@historatia Actually it was an estimated 3 million people who died and yes you could argue that it was because Britain didn't send them food - it case you didn't know Britain was being starved by the German U boat blockade restricting the transporting of all supplies. I suppose you'd have preferred it if 3 million people in Britain died instead? There was a food shortage world wide mainly because GERMAN U-Boats sank millions of tonnes of it.
@tomburley 3. Let me add to comments. In the Boer War where the Empire laid conquest to the two Boer republics because Cecil Rhodes want to grab the gold and diamond mines -- and he did -- the raw power led "Lord Kitchener" to gather into Concentration Camps the women and children of the Boers to threaten the Boer men to surrender. OVER HALF OF THE BOER CHILDREN UNDER 16 WERE MURDERED IN THOSE CAMPS!!!. The British woman Emily Hobhouse created a major ruckus to have it stopped.
@tomburley 4. Lord Kitchener was made a "hero" (about the same as Himmler) while Emily Hobhouse was treated like a traitor. Her ashes are today found in a what is called the Women's Monument in Bloemfontain South Africa. 5. I can go on for hours of the British pillaging and raping other peoples and then claiming "the white man's burden". That's typical ridiculous propaganda. The British were an OBSTACLE to social and economic development in order to EXPLOIT all they could control.
@tomburley Britain sacrificed NOTHING for the rights and freedoms of the people in Europe. You did NOT leave Poland or any other country "free". The ONLY goal of Churchill -- as the Hess incident proved -- was to prolong the war in order to keep as much of the British Empire powers as was possible after the Americans FORCED the 'freedom of the seas' policy AGAINST Britain's wishes in 1919. What BS you spread! Britain sacrificed the blood of the subjugated people in their fist.
@historatia Correct me if I'm wrong on this but - I don't see the Nazi Swastika flying over the capital cities of France, Belgium, Denmark, Norway or Holland any more. All of those countries sort out Britain for assistance in liberating them from Nazi Germany and none of them were parts of the British Empire. Are you just infatuated with Hess and believe only in him and your obvious adoration of Hitler? All countires of the Brithish Commonwealth can choose to leave but many opt to remain.
@Yinshaman Dogfights: Luftwaffe's Deadliest Mission part 1 - 5
no problem. Also the name Leonidas was after the greek hero king Defender of Sparta And at the time of WW2 Itaila/italy was at war with greece and backed by Germany. odd huh?
@Yinshaman Yup your right After the Soviet bridges which only 1 was damaged 100%
They reformed Leonidas Sq. To a volunteer unit, called the Sonderkommando ELBE attacking slower moving enemy bombers However they were some armed with Ammo and no armor in ONLY BF-109's the man your talking about is Klaus Hahn. 1 of 180 Sonderkommando Elbe 60 returned with Mechanical problems, and 47 were shot down by American fighters Americans say a handfull crashed. Germans say 20+. April 7 1945 only day used
In 1943 the bomber Italian strategic P 108 was in operation but with a more limited range. So do the "canary" using radio-controlled airplanes packed with a new explosive capable of spraying a mountain. This is what happened in Algeria without the allies find an explanation of what had happened.
@Stuckey57 I ask pardon for my bad English, I can not speak.
I meant to say "destroy" not "paint". However, the facts really happened: a "canary" escaped the control of the radio control and not hit the target: the British fleet in Galite (Tunisia) -12 August 1942.
The board of inquiry declared that the Italian pilots were evaporated!
The Ju-290 was tested for launch of parasite fighters to be equipped by tactical nuclear warheads as described in the 1942 Schumann/Trinks patents. This was a small fissile mass ignited by a Lithium lined hollow charge intended to compress Lithium with Deuteride and 100 grams of Uranium 233 at the core, thus producing a flash of fast neutrons tomimic the effect of critical mass. The mission was to be flown by the uncompleted V3 prototype.
@oldfart387 Nazi germany lost the war because from May-July 1944 Hitler was threatened with Anthrax attack by Churchill unless germany sued for peace and abandoned it's nuclear weapons project. The truth of WW2 is that Germany was ready to strike UK and USA with Tabun nerve gas and Atomic weponry but Hitler was spooked by a threat of Anthrax attack. Because a seperate peace was struck with western allies, the truth remains burried through fear of provoking outrage from Russia.
@oldfart387 Yeah if you read transcripts of secretly recorded conversations by incacerated Nazi nuclear scientists at Farm Hall, ( NARA RG 77, Entry 22, Box 164 -Farm Hall Transcripts). Dr Paul Harteck discussed being advised about this by Major Bernd von Brauchitisch. He revealed that USA also threated to drop a nuke on Dresden in July 1944 unless Germany sued for peace. ALSO read: Germany and the Second World War,” by Bernhard R. Kroener, Rolf-Dieter Müller, Hans Umbreit ; p.798
Got news for you. The photo recon version of this thing actually flew over Canada, MI and NY on 8-28-1943 without a shot being fired at it. One of the pilots was Anna Kreisling, the “White Wolf of the Luftwaffe.” By the time the Ameicans figured it out, the plane was over the Atlantic and returned home safely.
It's like a F200 with 6 engines. The Amerika bomber project had at least 3 submissions, notably the Horten 18. It's hard to say how effective it would have been. It could have made a messof Manhattan, with a low level bombing strike. Although last minute cloud cover might have thwarted them. Without the A bomb it would have just been a few thousand pounds of ordnance /incendiaries on New York. There would have been noway back of course, so a Bin Laden crash into the Empire State mayhave been it.
@hoppinonabronzeleg An USAAF bomber in heavy fog crashed into the Empire State buidling and there was very litle damage. Watch it on " Plane Hits Empire State Building ".
@LottoWinner999 It was a B-25, with a weight of about 32,000 lbs. It was flying at about 150 knots when it hit the building. Not much weight, not much speed, stone building = not much damage.
@ThePilot4ever Actually a third was assembled but scrapped in July 1944 with the emergency fighter project along with six other partial airframes. This is a known fact because Junkers was paid compensation for 7 unfinished airframes. Also the so called J-390 V-2 was redesignated as the Ju-390 A-1 before it's first flight. When Chief test pilot Pancherz told British investigators there was only ever one prototype he was technically correct because the second aircraft was redesignated.
@phaasch planes weren't that slow back then, Nazis had jets and even then the fw-200 condor could make sum long runs. However after bombing America, where would it refuel???
More silly meathead bickering below. Yawn. I never knew this thing existed- presumably it never got beyond the prototype, and was it supposed to cross the atlantic and bomb New York, or something? God how long would that have taken?
@phaasch With a speed of 300 mph and a range of 6'000 miles, probably a 20 hour round trip. However since he distance from Europe would be longer then 3,000 miles the odds are it would be a one way mission for propaganda use more then anything else. Much like the Dolittle raid of Japan. Most likely, do the bombing run, ditch in the ocean and be picked up by subs. they would not be able too have fighter support , but would be OK for transpor and coastal patrol.The heavy bomber was never started.
@candr Hell they were desperate, werent they? the odds of being picked up on somebodys radar, or Atlantic air patrols would have been high, and fairly defenceless against fighters. Its a fascinating and pretty horrible scenario. Theres so much material for a "What if" movie out there, hey?
@candr Quite incorect. Test pilot Pancherz noted in 1969 interview with Daily Telegraph aircraft performance was recertified in May 1944 for a return flight to Cape Town. MTOW 80,500kg, Payload 10,000kg, Fuel 28,600kg, OEW 36,900kg, range 7,400nm @ 232kt below 21,000 feet. The Cape Town flight however was accompanied part way by an aerial refuelling tanker Ju-290 registration CE+YZ. New York was a dry run for an attack with two underslung parasite Me-328 suicide planes.
@Tazjet100 As you say, the refueling tanker was along, but not that possible under conditions of active air warefare once it got to the end of the run. Also suicide planes might have existed but were not allowed since Hitler would not give the go ahead for the program. So I stand by my post.
@candr Well you are silly to stand by your comments because they are plain wrong and I have provided the actual performance figures sourced from the Ju-390 chief test pilot Hans Joachim Pancherz. No more authoritative source exists, however if you choose to bury your head in the sand be my guest. You are plain wrong about the range and endurance.
@Tazjet100 Further candr if Hitler opposed suicide squadron then why was the Leonaides suicide squadron created. Why in the closing months of the war were 300 luftwaffe fighter pilots executed for refusing to perform ram raids against Allied bombers? Also why was the Me-328 parasite fighter built specifically for the Ju-390 mission?
I suspect candr you simply have not resarched the topic. Opinion is not the sme as knowledge
@Tazjet100 LOL it was created but he refused to sign off on it, Strangly enough the little house painter didn't believe in suicide. Hanna Reitsch proposal was only fully supported by Himmler. Hitler allowed it to be formed, but refused to have them be used. It was not till the end that it was used in a small way with very very little success against the Russians, against Hitlers orders. But by that time he wasn't exactly in charge of much.
@candr Since you don't know the correct answer allow me. The Me-328 and Fi-103 Reichberg IV were rival bids for a suicide piloted glide bomb. It's pilots signed an oath accepting the fact. Hitler did not oppose it. Hitler advocated it but was talked out of it by Speer late in the war. Himmler however was opposed to suicide pilots. Hitler briefed Skorzeny to revive the project and Skorzeny recruited Hanna Reitsch (V-1 Flying Bomb 1942-52 [2005] by Zaloga,Steven
@Tazjet100 As far as the Me-328 being built for that purpose, it wasn't as a sucide fighter, but to be used and ditched and have the pilots picked up. They were to be retrived, and if they couldn't (which at the time was not technologically possible) they were to bail out over the closest friendly territory. As far as 300 pilots being executed, they were not, they lost 37 on one target over a 3 day period April 17th to 20th and decided to quit the waste.
@candr Nope there was a parachute and autopilot provided as an afterthought. Later the Fi-103 was favoured over the Me-328 as it offered the pilot a better prospect for bailout. The entire point of this was that the Me-328 could be launched 350nm from New York where the Junkers Ju-390 could not be intercepted. The Ju-390 was limited by fuel consumption of the BMW801E engines to fly below 21,000 feet thus needed a stand off glide attack weapon. A U-boat so close to New York was a suicide attempt.
@Tazjet100 Not as big a suicide attempt as you might think, there were a few landings on the East coast from U boats, and besides I didn't say they would be right off the coast of NYC just a few hundred miles out, slightly different then being in the harbor.
@candr The Ju-390 was first flown limited to the take of weight certified for the Ju-90 since V1 was converted from the sixth Ju-90 airframe. Later it was certified at 75,000kg. In May 1944 it was further certified at 80,500kg, with fuel capacity for 66,000lb (32 hour endurance) and the payload was thence reduced from 10,000kg to 8,000kg. There was ample fuel and payload capacity for return flight to New York.
Its a good thing the nazis didn't mass product 4 engine heavy bombers at the start of WW2.
gravelandx88 1 week ago
die hohe warscheinlichkeit ist immer noch ,das hitler mit diesen flugzeug nach japan geflogen sei,nur dieses flugzeug ist für langstreckenflüge geeignet,es könnten sogar 5 stück dafon gebaut worden sein ,wie es eine 0 sere vörsied.weiterhin gibts noch keuin endbeweis wo hitler hingekommen ist,alles unbewiesen die tehsen und zusammenfassungen.
ollenhauer1 1 month ago
Possibly originally meant to deliver the 'TUNGUSKA' weapon that Boss Tweed's stolen Bearer Bonds developed but instead two were sailed into London (By Hess 2-weeks before Scotland) & into Manhattan by Mussolini after he was supposedly dead & of course everyone knows Germany lost the war but the Nazis & their Illuminati financiers won it & continued to play 'CHAOS' verses 'CONTROL' ever since with double cross & counter double cross keeping the average Masons so confused most still don't get it.
spacelizardlaw 1 month ago
at 0:36 ist looks a bit like a Focke-Wulf 200 Condor with 6 engines
Hidekius 1 month ago
und auch wenn der arshloch mit seinem kleinen Schnurbart nach argentinien geflogen wäre ist doch egal der blöde heini ist auf alle fälle gestorben jetzt
meupi1 1 month ago
ganz klar,hitler ist mit der 390 in exsil geflogen,ganz klare beweise das hitler in berlin gefallen ist sind nicht vvorhanden.
ollenhauer1 1 month ago
Germany used to be a great nation but was gutted in ww1 and never fully recovered and was weaker in ww2 and now it's a police state where if you question the holocaust you go to jail.
mysirius1000 1 month ago
@mysirius1000 Bollocks.
MegaTerrymc 1 month ago
@mysirius1000
Yeah, cos that's the one true definition of 'Police state' huh?
Jeez some of you guys are so twisted.
Lucky for you you never experienced a true 'Police state'.....like the German one from 1933 - 1945 where what you are born as (not what you say or do) could see you & your family killed.
Germany is actually a very progressive & free country these days.....and if the price of that is shutting up idiot nazi-fanboys then tought luck sunshine, nobody cares.
hocuspokus1 1 month ago
adolf hitler flei wiht this plane to japan and than go here too a uboot und drive to kube tosehthe bild of there h44 scips.,lengt 345 met.
ollenhauer1 2 months ago
InfantileMushHead, as once said on S.N.L. " Shroom you ignoRANT slut. Next to Moron in ALL dictionaries should be a picture of your,s drooly !!!! PLEASE do humanity a favor. DON'T EEEEEVER HAVE CHILDREN, THAT IS IF THERE'S A FEMALE SOOOOOOO DESPERATE SHE HAS TO LOWER HERSELF TO ALLOW YOU TO CRUSH HER FAITH IN INTELLIGENT LIFE IS POSSIBLE AMONG INBREED MORONS SUCH AS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should enjoy hell, you,ll fit right in.
pinwizz69 3 months ago
MEDAL OF HONOR!!!
Warbirdguy1 3 months ago
It's a pity not one of those planes, not even a replica, are around today.
masterDevis 3 months ago
without Chemtrails!! very clean german technic!!!
cosmicspeed33 3 months ago
Ccuntmore, you are so inbreed it,s unbelievable you can walk upright. PAY ATTENTION DORK. EVERY society that has attempted the destruction of the Jewish people have ended getting SPANKED BY GOD and ended up history and the Jews are still here. I,n Christian and know God has plans for them post second coming. Please, feel free to exterminate your self so you don't breed by going to Israel and telling them your moronic B.S. !!!
pinwizz69 3 months ago
@pinwizz69 Nice to know you can faithfully repeat the low-grade sophomoric Zionist propaganda of TBN and 700 Club. The U.S. has been saturated with Zionist propaganda since 1948. Even the term, "Judeo-Christian" is a religious and doctrinal hoax. Joseph Goebbels can't hold a candle to the intensity of hype in support of modern day Israel and giving the Jews a blank check.
The creation of secular Israel is the greatest fraud that has deceived all but the very elect.
InfiniteMushroom 3 months ago
You guys are seriously deluded
aSkepticalman 3 months ago
the range of this bomber was supposed to be exactly 18,000 miles. it's payload, either a nuclear bomb or a dirty bomb. this bomber would have meant death to the allies f the war lasted only one more year. the germans may have won. just think about it. we could all be speaking german if we didn't beat them to the atom bomb.
panzerking1218 4 months ago
@panzerking1218 LOL this supposed bomber like all german bombers in WW2 was garbage The US had best bomber in WW2 the B29 and was developing the B36 bomber that could fly from US non stop bomb germany and return with 70.000 pound pay load, war last one more year germany is nuked and completly destroyed.
jers59 3 months ago
@jers59 . I guess since planes like the JU390 or the HE 177 never made it beyond the prototype stage and since the B29 was never used in the European thearter and the B36 Peace Maker never flew a combat mission we'll never know.
aussiepaul44 3 months ago
B36 dropped two atom bombs in accidents ,one on Canada ,one on New Mexico,awesum aircraft though
58Vulcan 3 months ago
da mit kann hitler nach japan geflogen sein,wo ist den number tow
ollenhauer1 4 months ago
Is it a Bomber or transport plane?
HMSDevere72 4 months ago
@HMSDevere72 Bomber: it was intended to be the "amerika bomber" and it actually made it to within 12 miles of NYC on a test flight.
Soundwave3591 4 months ago
@Soundwave3591 Thanks very much I've never seen it before
HMSDevere72 4 months ago
Even though the lend lease program was a huge blow to Nazi-Germany in operation Barbarossa, had Goring & Milch saw the significance of strategic bombing rather than just tactical, the Ju-290/390 would have done great job on hitting Soviet industry beyond the Urals
zzhamstring 4 months ago
Great bomber ! Someone has images of weapons , radar , camouflages used on it ?
6fletcher 4 months ago
yes it might have escaped US day fighters: presumably though by that stage of the war it would have then been shot sh*tless whilst crossing GB/France by the RAF and USAF fighters there?
timboexit17 4 months ago
@timboexit17 in order to hit the US, she would launch form the portion of Southern France that juts out into the Atlantic, bypassing the Allied fighters entirely. then all she would have to worry about were planes off escort carriers.
Soundwave3591 4 months ago
Nice looking plane, but just as well for Germany that it didn't go into production and bomb the USA, as it would have been easy picking for fighter planes
Poopingbotham 4 months ago
@Poopingbotham It would have bombed the US east coast under cover of darkness so attacks from regular day fighters would have been unlikely. It's ability to significantly disrupt US production of war materials is debatable however it would have caused the US to divert a lot of resources to the east coast such as fighter aircraft both day/night, significant anti-aircraft batteries and people to clear up the damage caused. Essentially things needed for the war effort in Europe.
Longs81 4 months ago
As I have no recollection of this, I presume it didn't actually DO anything?
ajivins1 5 months ago
THATS A REAL FLYING FORTRESS
USA SHOULD BUY THAT THING LOL
30sectodeath 5 months ago
AWESOME......... can buy that and bomb Tokyo lol
30sectodeath 5 months ago
WHAT A GREAT PLANES...IF I HAVE TIME MACHINE
I WOULD RATHER GO BACK FROM THE YEAR OF
GREAT WAR LIKE THE YEAR THAT PEARL HARBOR
WAS ATTACKED BY THE JAPANESE AND THE
WORLD WAR 1 AND 2 :D hahaha
rayngie14 5 months ago
There are few nations; races (whatever) who are free from wrong doings. People of ill intent will use half baked and biased studies of history to cause trouble instead of learning from it. They ignore that Britain has evolved as a nation and makes great strides towards racial intigration while their own countries are full of racial and religious spite and hate! Learn from the past with an eye on the future otherwise you have learnt nothing!
FrancoHitlini 5 months ago
hi igorks
ich hoffe du spricst deutsch
es rätseln sich ja mysterien um den Verbleib dieses Intercontinentalbombers
weist du da was?
Ltts25 5 months ago
@Ltts25
gugste Hier, vielleeicht hilft Dir weiter:
wehwehweh.cryptojewDotcom/10324/junkers-ju-390-das-gespensterflugzeug/
Mit Hochfiegerischen Grüssen
Staendhart 5 months ago
Zitat ebenda:
....Nach glaubwürdigen Berichten startete eine Ju 390 (V-2 oder V-3) am 2. Mai 1945 von Bodo (Norwegen) mit 4 Mann-Besatzung und einer Geheimfracht. Nach einem Zwischenaufenthalt zum Auftanken in Villa Cisneros (Span. Sahara) ging es weiter nach Uruguay, wo die blaugestrichene und mit schwedischen Kennungen versehene Maschine am 4. Mai 1945 an einen Ort unweit der argentinischen Grenze wohlbehalten aufsetzte. Dort wurde abgewrackt, um keine unnötigen Spuren zu hinterlassen.
Staendhart 5 months ago 9
@Staendhart Ob Hitler noch lebte oder nicht spielt doch keine Rolle. Interessanter ist eher ob die Geheimfracht das verschollene Gold und andere Wertsachen die verschollen sind beinhaltet hat.
Sowas würde mich interessieren.
LimaAdrian 3 months ago
Wow, it's the first time I've come across this one!
Poopingbotham 5 months ago
What's teh song?
jsplicer9 6 months ago
Why is everyone arguing about a history that's already written. Do I feel guilty about my nations history of 70, 100, 200, 300 years ago? No, why? Because it's not in my living memory nor is it my generation. History is there to be studied and learned from to make sure that WE, today, and future generations, do not make the same mistakes. Instead of pointless arguing, lets try and our energy into creating a better FUTURE for us all regardless of colour, religion or race.
dcanmore 6 months ago 97
@dcanmore people talk about everything all the time
you just need to live with it or go to some other video on youtube
jef934 3 months ago
@dcanmore; history will continue to repeat itself to greater and greater extremes so long as jews walk this planet. As long as they walk the earth there will be NO PEACE!
tommis1985 3 months ago
@dcanmorYou don`t have to feel guilty about Your nation history. Germany is a Great country and a Germans r great people. The history that You`ve mentioned is not written only by Your nation, the rest of the world hase the same responsability if something went wrong or good. It was all about money...as any other conflict.
Regards
flexxten 3 months ago 3
@dcanmore Nice to see a brain at work... And a soul present... Rather than mindless, robotic, blind, baseless nationalism/ethnocentrism.
Thank you.
paytontech 2 months ago
@dcanmore Danke!
x0druid0x 2 months ago
@dcanmore well said
observe45 1 month ago
@dcanmore you wrong, the war is comming again and its going to be soon, for color, religion or race, and asspecially for poor and milliardiers, rivers of blood will flow again
landser1970 1 month ago
@dcanmore We continue to make the same mistakes. The only thing that changes in the history of humans is technology. We are still the blood-thirsty, greedy, egomaniacs we have been since the Bible. The human brain has not evolved one bit. More thean likey because it hasn't had too. We have been at the top since after the last Ice Age. If we are to contuinue to thrive we have to finnaly cast off the shackles of fear and realizing our own mortality. The two main causes for War,and hatred.
FadeToGrayLLC 3 weeks ago
@dcanmore We really do need to stop the "in hindsight" fingure pointing. Drilling miles out into the ocean, Nuclear Plants melting down and using Dinosaur crap to make electricity and run our cars, We need to utilize the Sun more, along with the wind and perpetutal motion. Our generation has the burden of over 50 years of mistakes. I'm working on aqauculture and growing Prawn in the water and tomatoes and corn on top with a 95% return on my rcurculatory system each growing season. Anyone else?
FadeToGrayLLC 3 weeks ago
@FadeToGrayLLC perpetual motion machines don't work since they violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. I agree about fossil fuels though, but nuclear power has an underservedly bad reputation due to errors in the early days, we know how to do a better job now. Which is a good thing, since despite what you or I think, nuclear power is very much back on the agenda ( at least where I live in the UK -- we're joining forces with France to massively ramp up nuke production).
daverowbotham 2 weeks ago
@FadeToGrayLLC
I just finished installing polar bear skin seat covers on my Hummer.
Everyone has to do their part IMO.
MrJohanasBilderberg 6 days ago
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@FadeToGrayLLC
I just finished installing polar bear skin seat covers on my Hummer.
Everyone has to do their part IMO.
MrJohanasBilderberg 6 days ago
It reminds me Nakajima G10N Fugaku bomber. unfortunately only an 2,600hp Ha-50 engine was manufactured...
deathstrike44 6 months ago
Many of these planes were flying very bad chimeras or engines were junk
jarriano 6 months ago
Did ze Germans call it a Trans-Atlantic bomber? I thought it was a heavy-lift (or fleeing NAZI - pack everything on to one flight and get the hell out of town) plane
topgunexcel 6 months ago
@AdamSavage88 You really need to do your research more carefully. First use of larynx radio was in the US Army Airforce B17's & B24's. Laser range finders were a modern development of a concept first used in the Dam Buster raid where two aldis lamps were fitted on the underside of the Lancaster bombers to converge at a preset height. Smooth bore guns for tanks....hmmm - most accurate tank gun with longest range is the rifled gun on the British Challenger.
tomburley 6 months ago
it looks like a 747.
KHRrocks 7 months ago
@AdamSavage88 Yeah right - like the Tank, (Britain), Heavy Bomber (Britain), Battleship (Britain), Aircraft carrier (Britain), Submarine (Britain), Radar (Britain) Sonar (Britain). What Germany did was to devote most of it's effort and resources into war materials when other Countries were focusing on more civilized things - that is why they were ahead of rest - they prepared for war whilst others tried for peace. By the way - the Ju390 was a flying nightmare for pilots.
tomburley 7 months ago
@tomburley Not only do you spout the British propaganda about invention of military equipment, but you then spill the rubbish that they spent so much on military things. The British navy was HUGE at over 15 times the floating tonnage. In comparison the Kriegsmarine was TINY even at its largest size. It was just MORE EFFECTIVE.. British spending was "civilized"? German was not?. What's more (I'm and economist) you spout nonsense about German spending on military.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Even after the build-up by 1939, the Wehrmancht has FEWER men and FEWER tanks that the French alone, never mind the Polish forces at 60% of Germany's. HItler had 32% unemployment going into January 1933 and spent on home renovations and infrastructure like autobahns and electrical dams to get the country going again. Germany was spending to "catch-up" and re-combining the pre-WW I, pre Versailles Germany to take its position in Europe. Your version is British rubbish.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia "My version" ??? try factual version. Hitler broke the Treaty of Versailles and built up massive modern forces for one reason only - to wage war. His brilliant economic rebuilding plan created massive inflation of the D-Mak which saw it being taken off the world exchange making it basically worthless outside of Germany. French military of 900,000 active service men and 4,200 tanks (max gun power 37mm and most were 1920's models) Hitler had 4,500,000 men and 2,500 modern tanks,
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley Yes "Your version!". Hitler's goal was to recombine and rebuild the German state that the stupidity and grotesquen unfairness of Versailles had foolishly imposed. For example, forcing Danzig a 98% German populated city to be a "free state" but under Polish control for foreign affairs??? Dumb. To move 3 million Germans with ancient roots in Sudentenland to create Czechoslovakia was ridiculous. (Notice that in 1993 it ceased to exist AGAIN.) Your is NOT a "factual version".
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley The German inflation was in the 1920's, NOT during Hitler's time, and no less that Emeritus Professor of Cambridge, Joan Robinson noted the Hitler, who began with a 31% unemployment in january 1933 (courtesy of the allies and their anti-German Conference of Genoa) noted his enormous success in rebuilding the German economy without inflation. (I'm and economist.) Where do you get this nonsense. Is this American indoctrinations?
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Your data is nonsense. The French had not only built the Maginot, but with their draft service they had 5.1 million men fully trained. Read Gamelin's (French military chief) memoirs for one of many sources. The French were the worlds second largest tank producers had the newest, best, and widest range both Infantry and Cavalry. The Renault 35 and the SOMUA S35 and Char B were the best tanks around until the Panzer IV. and YES the French had 4200 to the German 2500.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley I repeat "Your version"... You really should study up on this stuff a little before you accept all that British blather as "fact'. In the 30's the French alone OUTSPENT the Germans on military, not to mention the British empire spending. Get it through your head that the Germans -- who did NOT start WWI but were made to pay for it as their role in Europe was DELIBERATELY and foolishly weakend by Versailles has every RIGHT to pull back together its territories and people.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Finally, Britain committed the greatest stupidity when warmonger Churchill refused the peace offer when Hilter sent Hess over. THAT, and the American support of Stalin was the greatest horror ever visited on European peoples. The consequence for Britain -- as Hitler predicted it would be -- was that it lost its empire, and India was gone in less than 24 months. Good Work! -- and keeping the Hess papers under lock and key until 2017. We are all waiting.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Your ignorance and stupidity is almost unbelievable.
Hitler broke the Treaty of Versailles. Then annexed the region of Czechoslovakia known as Sudetenland then signed the Munich agreement promising to expand no further which he then broke and invaded Poland which brought a state of war between Germany and both France and Britain - British PM was Chamberlain.
When Hess flew to Scotland it was to try to persuade Britain to join with Germany - Glad we didn't accept his "invite"
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley 1. What is to you "unbelievable" comes from the ultimate stupidity of swallowing the British propaganda. Go read Niall Ferguson's works (Harvard history professor) on this subject. Hitler walked away from Versailles BECAUSE the Big 3 WERE NOT MEETING THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THE DEFENSE OF THE GERMAN MINORITIES through the League of Nations in former German territories (Poland, Sudentenland, Silesia, or even the Saarland. 2. You clearly haven't read the Munich Agreement.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley You are "happy" you didn't accept his invite? Owning that decision makes YOU responsibility for the Bolschevik communist enslavement of central and eastern Europe for two generations! Proud?. YOU are responsible for the collapse of the British Empire. Smart? So now YOU live on and Island so reduced that it hasn't its own successful auto industry or build airplanes, and is rapidly headed for obscurity. Enjoy your fate. Pull the plug and let "has been" Britain sink.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Has it EVER occurred to you that Versailles was the most gigantic mistake making another WAR IN EUROPE INEVITABLE? Most historians conclude that. David Lloyd George said it in his speech at the Conference of Genoa already in 1923!! warning the Poles about their eastern Aggression. You sound like the least knowledgable dumbass on YouTube. You did know that Germany was guaranteed access accross the corridor and Poland CLOSED the routes?? You did know that?? Dumbass
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia And do you know WHY Poland closed the route - because Germany reneged on payments due to Poland - in modern day that would be called sanctions. Versailles treaty was obviously not a great success however but that did not give Germany the right to go to war - just an excuse. Germany opted to make the rest of Europe suffer for Germany's previous mistakes and aggression rather than its own people. Went well for them in the end didn't it?
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley You speak pure bunk, The payments to Poland were suddenly demand in Gold and even the US dollar or German supplies of commodities was refused. Your view is based entirely on the assumption of deliberate German evil intent rather than any rational historical factual basis. The "previous mistakes" were NOT German mistakes (go read David Lloyd George and AJP Taylor again!) Germany was very unjustly treated for purposes of British power politics.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Of course Poland refused to accept German marks as payment - hyper inflation created by Hitler meant the German mark was worthless outside of Germany (which is why it was removed from the Gold Standard). As for Germany being "very unjustly treated" well maybe if they hadn't gone to war in 1914 to begin with they wouldnot have received the treatment. FACT - Germany twice opted for aggression to solve problems of it's own making.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley You have absolutely NO GRASP of FACTS. The hyperinflation you speak of occurred in the 1920's NOT during Hitler's period. Has it occurred to you that Germany went to war in 1914 for the same reason that Brittain claims to have done so in 1939, namely because of the requirements of alliances she had made? I guess not. I don't think you have enough cogent ability to 'reason' to make any further conversation productive or relevant.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Austro Hungarian forces invaded Serbia sparked by Arch Duke Ferdinands assassination. Germany then invaded Belgium, Luxembourg and France. - Yeah that sure sounds the same reason for Britain going to war to defend Poland.
Also I said that the hyper inflation in Germany was the reason Poland refused to accept payments other than gold. Hitler's Nazi party, whilst notin power in the 20's was againt Versailles treaty and encouraged worker strikes that helped destablize german mark.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley Your "propaganda" style shows up in what you OMIT.. namely that Russia had mobilized even BEFORE Austria quite rightly invaded Serbia. Imagine with Victoria on the throne and the Prince of Wales being murdered on a state visit to Spain. Would Britain have said "OK, well that's fine?". Then you missed the fact that the Russian-French ALLIANCE -- starting with Russia attacked Germany BEFORE the Germans marched on France through Belgium. Don't OMIT the key facts!
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Austria declared war on Serbia July 28th. Russia, as ally of Serbia,mobilized its forces on July 29th but did not attack anyone. Germany declares war on Russia August 1st & demands France (Russias ally) stays neutral - Strange that Germany didn't feel the need to stay neutral (or Russia for that matter) France refuses & mobilizes forces. Germany declares war on France August 3rd. Germany invades neutral Belgium August 4th prompting Britain to declare war on Germany.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley Your propaganda also misses the key fact that it was utterly irresponsible of the British/ Americans to DELIBERATELY undermine the very "self-determination" rights of the Danzig and West Prussian people on which basis the Armistice was entered into to cause FUTURE trouble on Gemany's east. This was not only STUPID politics, but in the end quite right COST BRITAIN HER EMPIRE and converted her into the weak has-been that she is today. SMART?? David Lloyd George later AGREED.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Your propaganda is doing what? Hiding the fact that from all of the troubles of the period 1914-1945 the BIG loser in the European theatre is.......wait for it ..... NOT Germany, but BRITAIN (with most of its remnant industries owned by German and American firms, ...... AND ,,,, wait for it .... the WORLD that is ever grateful that the ENSLAVING GENOCIDAL British Empire is no more... GOOD result for most of the World.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia So now it's "proaganda" is it? You don't need to tell me what Britain sacrificed to protect the rights and freedoms of the people in Europe. Yes the "Empire" was severely deminished but that merely served to allow those Countries to take the lead in running their own country - having had an effective infrastructure developed for them. Britain was the first nation to abolish slavery. Tell me of this "genocide" by Britain - that comment is so hypercritical I am almost left speachless.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley I will give you TWO quick examples of your "benevolent" empire. 1. In North American-- now Ontario, during the French English wars in 18th Century the benevolent British went in and as a "gift" passed around smallpox laden blankets. Hundreds of thousands of thosands of North American natives, women, kids, old people warriors died in the epidemic that followed.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Whilst some people actually believe this stories no one believes tem to have been a deliberate act. Unlike Nazi Germany who deliberately gases several million Jews.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley WRONG WRONG and WRONG. Only the barest of research into biological warfare will show up the copies of the original letters (quilled) that expressly ordered the use of germ warfare on the North American natives as a mechanism of mass killing. "British commander Lord Jeffrey Amherst and Swiss-British officer Colonel Henry Bouquet certainly discussed this, in the course of Pontiac's Rebellion;
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley " Historian Francis Parkman verifies four letters from June 29, July 13, 16 and 26th, 1763. Excerpts: Commander Lord Jeffrey Amherst writes July 16, 1763, "P.S. You will Do well to try to Inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race. PROOF AND LOTS OF IT.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Tomburley I can give you truckloads of proof for every instance I bring up. Google Emily Hobhouse and you will read the truth as it is in British Hansard also. In South Africa the Kitchener ran 34 killing camps as bad or worse than Hitler's. And what was the British public reaction?
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley "A Baptist minister in Liverpool, said on 22 December 1901, Peace Sunday: "Great Britain cannot win the battles without resorting to the last despicable cowardice of the most loathsome cur on earth—the act of striking a brave man's heart through his wife's honour and his child's life. The cowardly war has been conducted by methods of barbarism... the concentration camps have been Murder Camps." Afterwards, a crowd followed him home and broke the windows of his house."
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley And any Britisher like you have the GALL to smear the character of the Germans who have at least the defense that THE PUBLIC WAS NOT TOLD, whereas in BRITAIN THE PUBLIC WAS TOLD AND CHEERED ON THE GENOCIDE. Your propaganda blinds you by ignoring the hideous horrors of your empire past. EVERYBODY but BRITS believe the truth. Your are the blackest pot calling the kettle black. SHAME on you. Some people who refuse to live in Canada's City of "Kitchener" because of the STENCH.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley The following posts are not in the correct order, but you can sort that out easily enough because they are in reverse.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia So - let me get this right...your defence and reason for Germany starting WWII is that the British intentionally used blankets that they could infect with small pox to eradicate all N American Indians some 160 years earlier? Or is it because of the methods used during the Boar War? In both cases, if accurate, at least the British were targetting an actual enemy with whom they were at war with and not a whole race who had shown no aggression towards them.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley First, your extrapolations are ridiculous, as I never claimed that as a "defense and reason" for anything. I provided you with one shovelful facts from the mountain (1) to prove that unlike your claim, the British did commit horrendous GENOCIDAL ATROCITIES, and (2) that the world knew that they were DELIBERATE. Now you have the "gall" to declare that legitimate war as these were "actual enemies". They were NOT! They were vicitms of BRITISH AGGRESSION!
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Should I take this as 'British Reasoning'? First you declare peoples unjustifiably attacked by the British 'enemies', -- and thus valid targets -- rather than VICTIMS. Second you ACTUALLY JUSTIFIED BRITISH ACTS OF GENOCIDE. Third despite the British use of the teem "execrable race" (which I QUOTED) you can say it was "not a whole race"? I guess that is "British literacy" from one of those referred to in my business call "cement heads".
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Again you try to deflect away from the facts & avoid answering the points I listed. 1.The Indians were aiding the French and as such were the enemies of Britain. 2. If you had read my comments you would have seen an important "if accurate" phrase - thus I was not justifying a fact merely commenting on your allegation. 3. You obviously do not know what execrable means - when in context it can simply mean 'unpleasant', 'disagreeable', wreched' or 'woeful'. Hardly relates to Genocide.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley You seem completely devoid of understanding. The exact terms of my QUOTE include the term "extirpate" and if you had a basic understanding of English you would know that meant "to kill them all" while the word RACE shows up next. You had claimed that the British didn't murder millions based on "race" and you are WRONG. Many think that the British are an "execrable" race, using the first word (derived from "to excrete" or "shit" in your lingo) and "race" as usual.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley That relates EXACTLY to genocide!
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia I think that stupid idiotic response sums up your whole myopic logic. "wretched race" does not constitute genocide. By your logic, saying "execrable weather" would mean eradication of all weather - murder of the rain or wind?? You really do need to open your eyes and look past an individual statment that "suits your idiology". Oh - and back to the original point no-one but Hitler's Nazi Germany is to blame for the war in Europe. You have failed to give any valid reason otherwise.END
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley Good cement head response.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia There are inexhaustible numbers of "cement head" allies who know the truth about German aggression, and are prepared to respond to it in any form it happens to appear. Your total capitulation to the mental illness that was fascism may have reduced you to a slavering beast, but it also reveals your true nature for the rest of the world to see. Meglomania is hard to hide, and it's always ugly.
thszntatst 6 months ago
@thszntatst Cetainly megalomania is hard to hide Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, Hitler, Idi Amin, Castro, George W Bush, Gaddafi . The list goes on. The "cements heads" that become followers and "believers" of any one will always claim a Mother Teresa "good" status for the action of their own and declare the enemies of their own as "evil" and "aggressive". Cement had always RESTATE their beliefs IN LIEU OF LEARNING ANYTHING to open their minds. Are YOU a "cement head"???
historatia 6 months ago
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historatia 6 months ago
@thszntatst You express your "conviction" of what you are convinced is the "truth", but judged ONLY by your own standard of good and evil. Can you not understand that Hitler set about putting back together a nation of his people that had been subjected to ridiculous vengeance at the end or 1918? Just like the Vietnamese who fought the COMPLETELY UNJUST FRENCH OCCUPATION AND AMERICAN AGGRESSION at a cost of 3,100,000 lives? CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley The fun part in reading your final response is that it betrays your complete discomfort of having BRITISH GENOCIDE brought out of the closet. You seek to deny it even when the words on the page are clear. The British use of germ warfare was intended to eradicate a "race" that it thought of as "Untermenschen". Britain wasn't at "war" with enemy Boer Republics, In a bestial aggressive act it destroyed another people, and used the MURDEROUS CONCENTRATION CAMPS to do it.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley As the power of world-media slip from the Anglo-American grasp and the formerly British and American oppressed and savaged peoples (Germany, India, China, Indonesia, etc. take their place at the table, the whole of the inculcated fabricated falsehoods of "greatness of Britain" and "greatness of America" will be repainted for the savage oppression and genocide as they really were, (and still partly are). Your "British" self-image is an illusion, not historical truth.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia To put it simply, you have such a warped ideology that blinds you of anything corrupt within your belief structure. You imply that India would have been a land of etopia is only Britain had not been involved and that China has been oppressed by external forces. I find it hard to accept that you really are so naive and yet for each comment you make you merely serve to prove it more and more. I have no more time for your childish behaviour. Grow up and stop whinning.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley To put it simpler for you, you are remarkably ignorant of history. China, until the boxer rebellion 1911 was partitioned by European powers and exploited. Sun Yat Sun rescued it from that ignominy, led by the British exploiters. Indian culture thrived until the British East India Company succeeded in getting the British government to get involved, destroying the magnificant India that is only now slowly starting to reform and arise. I'm not naive at all.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Are you so dumb that you don't read what Indian historians write, what Nobel Prize winners like Amartya Sen (Cambridge) write? Except for where a significant part of the population stock has British roots, the history books do not paint a flattering picture of British oppression period, the use of actual or de facto slave labour, the controlled commerce that denied their right to trade except through London, You're truly ignorant!
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley 2. In 1943, with WWII on, the British did ration controls on food in India. In 1943 when starvation struck, Churchill REFUSED to release the emergency supplies requisitioning it for the war effort. An estimated 4.3 million people dies of starvation. I guess you "We are the sweet British" propaganda didn't cover that eh? Its amazing to me that you don't know this and are shocked to hear it. Why do you think that Ghandi's writing about it were CENSORED in Britain.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Actually it was an estimated 3 million people who died and yes you could argue that it was because Britain didn't send them food - it case you didn't know Britain was being starved by the German U boat blockade restricting the transporting of all supplies. I suppose you'd have preferred it if 3 million people in Britain died instead? There was a food shortage world wide mainly because GERMAN U-Boats sank millions of tonnes of it.
tomburley 6 months ago
@tomburley 3. Let me add to comments. In the Boer War where the Empire laid conquest to the two Boer republics because Cecil Rhodes want to grab the gold and diamond mines -- and he did -- the raw power led "Lord Kitchener" to gather into Concentration Camps the women and children of the Boers to threaten the Boer men to surrender. OVER HALF OF THE BOER CHILDREN UNDER 16 WERE MURDERED IN THOSE CAMPS!!!. The British woman Emily Hobhouse created a major ruckus to have it stopped.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley 4. Lord Kitchener was made a "hero" (about the same as Himmler) while Emily Hobhouse was treated like a traitor. Her ashes are today found in a what is called the Women's Monument in Bloemfontain South Africa. 5. I can go on for hours of the British pillaging and raping other peoples and then claiming "the white man's burden". That's typical ridiculous propaganda. The British were an OBSTACLE to social and economic development in order to EXPLOIT all they could control.
historatia 6 months ago
@tomburley Britain sacrificed NOTHING for the rights and freedoms of the people in Europe. You did NOT leave Poland or any other country "free". The ONLY goal of Churchill -- as the Hess incident proved -- was to prolong the war in order to keep as much of the British Empire powers as was possible after the Americans FORCED the 'freedom of the seas' policy AGAINST Britain's wishes in 1919. What BS you spread! Britain sacrificed the blood of the subjugated people in their fist.
historatia 6 months ago
@historatia Correct me if I'm wrong on this but - I don't see the Nazi Swastika flying over the capital cities of France, Belgium, Denmark, Norway or Holland any more. All of those countries sort out Britain for assistance in liberating them from Nazi Germany and none of them were parts of the British Empire. Are you just infatuated with Hess and believe only in him and your obvious adoration of Hitler? All countires of the Brithish Commonwealth can choose to leave but many opt to remain.
tomburley 6 months ago
what a bird
kepler98 7 months ago 10
@Yinshaman Dogfights: Luftwaffe's Deadliest Mission part 1 - 5
no problem. Also the name Leonidas was after the greek hero king Defender of Sparta And at the time of WW2 Itaila/italy was at war with greece and backed by Germany. odd huh?
freakyflow 7 months ago
@Yinshaman Yup your right After the Soviet bridges which only 1 was damaged 100%
They reformed Leonidas Sq. To a volunteer unit, called the Sonderkommando ELBE attacking slower moving enemy bombers However they were some armed with Ammo and no armor in ONLY BF-109's the man your talking about is Klaus Hahn. 1 of 180 Sonderkommando Elbe 60 returned with Mechanical problems, and 47 were shot down by American fighters Americans say a handfull crashed. Germans say 20+. April 7 1945 only day used
freakyflow 7 months ago
@Yinshaman Luftwaffe flew Selbstopfereinsatz against Soviet bridges over the Oder river. These missions were flown by pilots of the Leonidas Squadron
freakyflow 7 months ago
Kammler where did u ditch your ju 390 i want it lol
EW0Canuk 7 months ago
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EW0Canuk 7 months ago
@AdamSavage88
Yes, I know. Cunning Germans.
askjiir 7 months ago
@AdamSavage88
60 years. Not 50. You see, having the numbers right make your comment all the more impressive see.
askjiir 7 months ago
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askjiir 7 months ago
In 1943 the bomber Italian strategic P 108 was in operation but with a more limited range. So do the "canary" using radio-controlled airplanes packed with a new explosive capable of spraying a mountain. This is what happened in Algeria without the allies find an explanation of what had happened.
But these facts is not allowed to talk
legiogeminax 8 months ago
@legiogeminax Spraying the mountain?
Stuckey57 7 months ago
@Stuckey57 I ask pardon for my bad English, I can not speak.
I meant to say "destroy" not "paint". However, the facts really happened: a "canary" escaped the control of the radio control and not hit the target: the British fleet in Galite (Tunisia) -12 August 1942.
The board of inquiry declared that the Italian pilots were evaporated!
legiogeminax 7 months ago
this is music from Medal of Honor Allied Assault
warbler4 8 months ago
take off the ers off of junkers and thats what you got:)
cameraman4brainiac 8 months ago
wo sind die andern beiden ju 390 geblieben ,irgendwo müssten doch noch filme und fotos sein ,alle müssen jetzt suchen!!
ollenhauer1 8 months ago
As a bomber it' s just junk & errs
Tubonaso 8 months ago
The Ju-290 was tested for launch of parasite fighters to be equipped by tactical nuclear warheads as described in the 1942 Schumann/Trinks patents. This was a small fissile mass ignited by a Lithium lined hollow charge intended to compress Lithium with Deuteride and 100 grams of Uranium 233 at the core, thus producing a flash of fast neutrons tomimic the effect of critical mass. The mission was to be flown by the uncompleted V3 prototype.
Tazjet100 8 months ago
Interesting video.. :)
2002And 9 months ago
And they STILL lost?
oldfart387 9 months ago
@oldfart387 Nazi germany lost the war because from May-July 1944 Hitler was threatened with Anthrax attack by Churchill unless germany sued for peace and abandoned it's nuclear weapons project. The truth of WW2 is that Germany was ready to strike UK and USA with Tabun nerve gas and Atomic weponry but Hitler was spooked by a threat of Anthrax attack. Because a seperate peace was struck with western allies, the truth remains burried through fear of provoking outrage from Russia.
Tazjet100 9 months ago
@Tazjet100 Any proof in that?
oldfart387 9 months ago
@oldfart387 Yeah if you read transcripts of secretly recorded conversations by incacerated Nazi nuclear scientists at Farm Hall, ( NARA RG 77, Entry 22, Box 164 -Farm Hall Transcripts). Dr Paul Harteck discussed being advised about this by Major Bernd von Brauchitisch. He revealed that USA also threated to drop a nuke on Dresden in July 1944 unless Germany sued for peace. ALSO read: Germany and the Second World War,” by Bernhard R. Kroener, Rolf-Dieter Müller, Hans Umbreit ; p.798
Tazjet100 9 months ago
Got news for you. The photo recon version of this thing actually flew over Canada, MI and NY on 8-28-1943 without a shot being fired at it. One of the pilots was Anna Kreisling, the “White Wolf of the Luftwaffe.” By the time the Ameicans figured it out, the plane was over the Atlantic and returned home safely.
time7152005 9 months ago
@time7152005 References or sources please.
Toddinfantry 7 months ago
It's like a F200 with 6 engines. The Amerika bomber project had at least 3 submissions, notably the Horten 18. It's hard to say how effective it would have been. It could have made a messof Manhattan, with a low level bombing strike. Although last minute cloud cover might have thwarted them. Without the A bomb it would have just been a few thousand pounds of ordnance /incendiaries on New York. There would have been noway back of course, so a Bin Laden crash into the Empire State mayhave been it.
hoppinonabronzeleg 9 months ago
@hoppinonabronzeleg An USAAF bomber in heavy fog crashed into the Empire State buidling and there was very litle damage. Watch it on " Plane Hits Empire State Building ".
LottoWinner999 9 months ago
@LottoWinner999 It was a B-25, with a weight of about 32,000 lbs. It was flying at about 150 knots when it hit the building. Not much weight, not much speed, stone building = not much damage.
Toddinfantry 7 months ago
I think only 2 where ever made
ThePilot4ever 9 months ago
@ThePilot4ever Actually a third was assembled but scrapped in July 1944 with the emergency fighter project along with six other partial airframes. This is a known fact because Junkers was paid compensation for 7 unfinished airframes. Also the so called J-390 V-2 was redesignated as the Ju-390 A-1 before it's first flight. When Chief test pilot Pancherz told British investigators there was only ever one prototype he was technically correct because the second aircraft was redesignated.
Tazjet100 9 months ago
@phaasch planes weren't that slow back then, Nazis had jets and even then the fw-200 condor could make sum long runs. However after bombing America, where would it refuel???
jsplicer9 9 months ago
@jsplicer9 No need to refuel. It had adequate endurance for the return flight from France. 32 hours airborne at 232kt
Tazjet100 9 months ago
Wenn jemand noch Spuren einer der 2 gebauten Ju-390 sucht ,könnte man einige
an der Absturzstelle in der Nähe des Weinbergs bei Jeroltschütz Kreis Kreuzburg
finden,Jetzt Gierałcice powiat Kluczbork in Polen.Das Flugzeug ist im Spätsommer
des Jahres 1944 abgestürzt.Elf Besatzungsmitglieder mit Azubis wurden auf den
Konstädter Friedhof beerdigt.
silesianus777 9 months ago
The song is???
jsplicer9 9 months ago
More silly meathead bickering below. Yawn. I never knew this thing existed- presumably it never got beyond the prototype, and was it supposed to cross the atlantic and bomb New York, or something? God how long would that have taken?
phaasch 9 months ago
@phaasch With a speed of 300 mph and a range of 6'000 miles, probably a 20 hour round trip. However since he distance from Europe would be longer then 3,000 miles the odds are it would be a one way mission for propaganda use more then anything else. Much like the Dolittle raid of Japan. Most likely, do the bombing run, ditch in the ocean and be picked up by subs. they would not be able too have fighter support , but would be OK for transpor and coastal patrol.The heavy bomber was never started.
candr 9 months ago
@candr Hell they were desperate, werent they? the odds of being picked up on somebodys radar, or Atlantic air patrols would have been high, and fairly defenceless against fighters. Its a fascinating and pretty horrible scenario. Theres so much material for a "What if" movie out there, hey?
phaasch 9 months ago
@candr Quite incorect. Test pilot Pancherz noted in 1969 interview with Daily Telegraph aircraft performance was recertified in May 1944 for a return flight to Cape Town. MTOW 80,500kg, Payload 10,000kg, Fuel 28,600kg, OEW 36,900kg, range 7,400nm @ 232kt below 21,000 feet. The Cape Town flight however was accompanied part way by an aerial refuelling tanker Ju-290 registration CE+YZ. New York was a dry run for an attack with two underslung parasite Me-328 suicide planes.
Tazjet100 9 months ago
@Tazjet100 As you say, the refueling tanker was along, but not that possible under conditions of active air warefare once it got to the end of the run. Also suicide planes might have existed but were not allowed since Hitler would not give the go ahead for the program. So I stand by my post.
candr 9 months ago
@candr Well you are silly to stand by your comments because they are plain wrong and I have provided the actual performance figures sourced from the Ju-390 chief test pilot Hans Joachim Pancherz. No more authoritative source exists, however if you choose to bury your head in the sand be my guest. You are plain wrong about the range and endurance.
Tazjet100 9 months ago
@Tazjet100 Further candr if Hitler opposed suicide squadron then why was the Leonaides suicide squadron created. Why in the closing months of the war were 300 luftwaffe fighter pilots executed for refusing to perform ram raids against Allied bombers? Also why was the Me-328 parasite fighter built specifically for the Ju-390 mission?
I suspect candr you simply have not resarched the topic. Opinion is not the sme as knowledge
Tazjet100 9 months ago
@Tazjet100 LOL it was created but he refused to sign off on it, Strangly enough the little house painter didn't believe in suicide. Hanna Reitsch proposal was only fully supported by Himmler. Hitler allowed it to be formed, but refused to have them be used. It was not till the end that it was used in a small way with very very little success against the Russians, against Hitlers orders. But by that time he wasn't exactly in charge of much.
candr 9 months ago
@candr Since you don't know the correct answer allow me. The Me-328 and Fi-103 Reichberg IV were rival bids for a suicide piloted glide bomb. It's pilots signed an oath accepting the fact. Hitler did not oppose it. Hitler advocated it but was talked out of it by Speer late in the war. Himmler however was opposed to suicide pilots. Hitler briefed Skorzeny to revive the project and Skorzeny recruited Hanna Reitsch (V-1 Flying Bomb 1942-52 [2005] by Zaloga,Steven
Tazjet100 8 months ago
@Tazjet100 Actually I do know, but go ahead..
candr 8 months ago
@Tazjet100 As far as the Me-328 being built for that purpose, it wasn't as a sucide fighter, but to be used and ditched and have the pilots picked up. They were to be retrived, and if they couldn't (which at the time was not technologically possible) they were to bail out over the closest friendly territory. As far as 300 pilots being executed, they were not, they lost 37 on one target over a 3 day period April 17th to 20th and decided to quit the waste.
candr 9 months ago
@candr Nope there was a parachute and autopilot provided as an afterthought. Later the Fi-103 was favoured over the Me-328 as it offered the pilot a better prospect for bailout. The entire point of this was that the Me-328 could be launched 350nm from New York where the Junkers Ju-390 could not be intercepted. The Ju-390 was limited by fuel consumption of the BMW801E engines to fly below 21,000 feet thus needed a stand off glide attack weapon. A U-boat so close to New York was a suicide attempt.
Tazjet100 8 months ago
@Tazjet100 Not as big a suicide attempt as you might think, there were a few landings on the East coast from U boats, and besides I didn't say they would be right off the coast of NYC just a few hundred miles out, slightly different then being in the harbor.
candr 8 months ago
@Tazjet100 no it could go from france to new york and back to france
TheYamato101 8 months ago
@candr The Ju-390 was first flown limited to the take of weight certified for the Ju-90 since V1 was converted from the sixth Ju-90 airframe. Later it was certified at 75,000kg. In May 1944 it was further certified at 80,500kg, with fuel capacity for 66,000lb (32 hour endurance) and the payload was thence reduced from 10,000kg to 8,000kg. There was ample fuel and payload capacity for return flight to New York.
Tazjet100 8 months ago
As an airplane, its impressive but as a bomber all I see is one very large target for cannon equipped interceptors like the P38.