Religion: A History of Violence Part 2

[lawfuIneutral]

Two brief corrections hitler is a chatolic and the Spanish fury took part in al of the Nordenrn Spanish holdings in what is now Belgium, mostly in cities such as Gent (was for a brief period a protestant republic whit wat is now the law faculty as its parlament) Antwerp, Brussels....

[98bigbutt]

It's funny how religious people put god for their personal reasons they hate.

[brokenscimitar]

I found Jesus. He was dead on a cross.

[truekinggrim]

Bravo, AVFX, bravo! We need more of this.

Also, fun note on Hell: Hell was not actually put into the bible until it was translated to english. The first 2 versions of the book (basically pre-king James) had either nothing close (V1) or something radically differed (V2). Also, in theology, you must brake a sin to go to hell. Read up on the 9 sins (Christians left out 2, 1 of which applies directly to Christians) that get you into hell. No sin, no hell, regardless of personal belief.

[AntiVenomFangX]

if the ONE SINGLE religion that you have chosen is actually correct... you know as well as i do i will see you in hell and you will realize that you should of lived like me.

heaven has a population of around 5 due to nobody following the WHOLE ENTIRE religions rules

you actually think you not knowing about the rules you break is going to make you innocent.

im going to break out of hell and sodomize jesus because i am more powerful than he is.

you cant prove me wrong.

[GrthJhnsn]

you forgot the temperlers.

[AntiVenomFangX]

yea i had plans to make a bunch of videos that progressively got better, but its summer time and id rather have fun

[GrthJhnsn]

good choice.

[LiliScarlett8]

For those who have a doubt about the goodness of religion, here's a great proof that religion is definitely the most evil thing in the world ! Hope these videos will help a fex people to open their eyes.

It may be called propaganda, but here, everything's real....

[LiliScarlett8]

I meant "few" people, sorry ! =)

[Deadbirdcheese]

Historical records don't lie. So if people don't believe it, then they need to research this. And they probably won't because it's easier to stay ignorant.

[johnnywinternut]

Ain't Christianity grand?

[sahardoom]

O Fortuna!

Just love this song!

[porterquarter19]

I think thrasher is on our side here, but all the same it was a silly argument.

[porterquarter19]

wait, never mind, sorry

[ThRaShEr129]

sorry, im not trying to be rude, or butting in. but do you mean:

NO im not on your side

or

No it wasnt a silly argument?

In my opinion, it was a STUPID argument on his part as he kept using overgeneralization. and I am on the Atheist side and the side that thinks Hitler wasnt Atheist.

[porterquarter19]

Note the reply to my comment that I wrote right after my first comment. It says "wait, never mind, sorry".

I really forgot what the whole conversation was about, but don't worry, I'm on your side and it wasn't a bad argument.

Hitler has become a strawman for both sides of the theist/atheist argument.

Well I'm cancelling this account soon, so I'll be replying as Skantaq.

[theHUNTINGdog]

sorry my mistake. what i should have sead is where does the bible say dont go to the doctor? "eny illnes can be cured by prayer?"

just becuase it can be does not mean it will be. god gave us medicine and doctors so i just use them

[masterdurchgriff]

Thank god he gave me the brains not to believe in him

[LiliScarlett8]

Wow, that's well said ! =)

[ogirv101]

Antivenomfangx, I know you hate creationits and stupid people but I saw your comment on Atheism colapse, and I hate to admit it but good job bro.

Even if you don't believe in the Bible I am with you on ending the bigotry of creationist and fake Christians that kill in the name of God.

[AntiVenomFangX]

why would i hate creationists? that's absurd.

[ogirv101]

Lol, real funny:

"why would i hate creationists? that's absurd."

Antivenomfangx

Why Agnostics Laugh at Creationists

are you being sarcastic?

[theHUNTINGdog]

i know one religion which is violent. athiesm!

[AntiVenomFangX]

don't you find it odd how you never explain a single thing you say.

atheist crime rates are far less, look in the prisons they are all religious and thinking that they will be going to heaven because they are sorry.

why is it Christians who are bombing our own country? there's no such thing as an atheist terrorist but christian terrorists are growing in America

get an education.

[theHUNTINGdog]

its my education that tought me that hitler was a strong beliver in evolution and the religion of the therd reich was athiest.

people in prison offen convert in prison

and what do you mean we are bombing our own country?

[bbugmenott]

ww2 happend because the Germans got screwed after ww1

[theHUNTINGdog]

ww2 was started beacuse of atheism

[ThRaShEr129]

ww2 was started becuase the germans elected Adolf Hitler, who is a confirmed catholic, and hitler hated jewish people and in his attempt to "Cleanse" the world, he started a war.

face it. Atheists never did shit to the world except piss religious people off and make the world a better place of more free thinking and less stupid people.

So shut your asshole, the priest might get it.

[theHUNTINGdog]

hitler was atheist

[ThRaShEr129]

yup... hitler was atheist.... thats why all his belt buckles said "Got Mit Uns" which is german for "God With Us".... becuase we all know atheists believe in god. right?

[AntiVenomFangX]

not to mention he wrote his beliefs in his bible

[theHUNTINGdog]

i dont think wipeing trying to wipe out jews is verry catholic

[theHUNTINGdog]

yeh we also know wipeing out jews is verry catholic enyone can say there catholic, christian etc. does not mean thay are

[ThRaShEr129]

i didnt say he killed jews becuase he was catholic. YOU called him atheist, and now your admitting he was catholic? funny....

Hitler was fucking crazy, but he was a devote catholic who wanted to cleanse the world of all other religions. not ALL catholicsa are like that becuase, like i said, Hitler was crazy. but he wasnt atheist.

[theHUNTINGdog]

no i called him catholic becuase someone else on this video sead he was a confermed catholic, hitler belived that jews wern't as evolved as germans

[ThRaShEr129]

yes, when someone thinks less of someone, and wants ever person related in anyway to that persons religion, and actually puts a plan into use to rid the world of that group of people.that is called ethnic cleansing. and hitler said in numerous videos of himself that he was doing this in his and gods will. asshole. so shut up you ignorant asshol

[theHUNTINGdog]

its called lieing asshole.

[ThRaShEr129]

ethnic cleansing is not lieng you retarded fuck. its funny how out of the 2 subjects in that comment... you choose to answer the less important one... dodging the bullet maybe?

How do you know he was lieing? did you know Hitler?

And also... What about the part of my comment you completely left out of your reply?

HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ETHNIC CLEANSING?????

[theHUNTINGdog]

ok.

he was not a devout catholic. he belived in evolution devout catholics dont belive in evolution and thay dont want to wipe enyone else out. if he was trying to clense the world of other religions why did he not try to kill muslims? just jews and why was he going on about his master race?

he also sead that he was speeding up natral selection and evolution, not the belifes of a "devout catholic".

excuse my spelling

[ThRaShEr129]

If you actually studied what you are debating, or at least backed your argument up with REAL facts, then this would be a lot easier for you...

Hitler's ethnic cleansing plan was to start off with jews, he was also attacking poland, he would move on until he conquered the world... which he did say he would conquer the world... if he was to conquer the world and considering what he did to jews... he would obviously attack muslims budhists and hindus if he got the chance.

Do your Homework.

[theHUNTINGdog]

i recomend a book "HITLER by Ian Kershaw"

he sided with muslims and turks

[AntiVenomFangX]

and how does siding with Muslims make him an atheist??? and how does a book mean its true?

i can show you a lot of books that are written by men with PhD's and they are completely fictional

why don't you read Hitlers diaries!!!! that's how you can tell what he really is, not some guys opinion and interpretation of Hitler

[theHUNTINGdog]

hitlers diarys may say a few things about "doing gods work" etc but the work and actions of it are not religius. id be more likley to vote for htler if he was catholic not just a godless heathen

[ThRaShEr129]

I recomend a book aswell...

"Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler himself.

in that book he states himself that his actions will be in the name of god (ironocly he wrote this in prison)

Heres a fact: "Turks" is not a religion, it is a slang term for people hailing from Turkey (which is a country btw) and in War, you need allies. Hitler creating an alliance with a country proves nothing and therefore, that peice of "evidence" holds no value.

[theHUNTINGdog]

look. i dont need to look at a sentences the fact of the matter is no catholic would do what hitler done. just becuase he writ a few comments about himself doing gods work does not mean he belived he was. everyone knows mass murder is not "gods work". hitler belived he was geneticly superior and he also sead that he was speeding up evolution by wipeing out poeple not quite as evolved as the nazis. "everyone is created equaly" is a catholic beleif. he probrbly sead that stuff for popularity?

[ThRaShEr129]

when you are dealing with someone like hitler, you cannot use overgeneralization. so many people have died in the name of god, i.e. the crusades, and it doesnt matter if what hitler did wasnt a "catholic thing"...

hitler did what he did in the name of god, he was insane but he wanted no other religion other than people who believed in his god. you have no proof of hitler being atheist yet i have lots of proof of him being religious.

[theHUNTINGdog]

what are you talking about? the holocast is proof. oh and were in the bible does it say kill jews? HITLER HATED JEWS HE JUST TRYED TO JUSTIFY WHAT HE DID TO HIS VOTERS USING "THE WORK OF GOD"

[ThRaShEr129]

what are YOU talking about? first you say WW2 started becuse of atheism, then you admit Hitler (who started the war by killing jews and inviding small neighboor countrys) was actually catholic. you destroyed your own argument yourself.

and on where in the bible does it say to kill jews? it doesnt but.

Commandment #1:

Thou Shalt not Worship any other God.

jews dont worship jesus? so their view on god might be classified as different.

and 1 more thing.

CAPS LOCK DOESNT MAKE YOU COOL!

[theHUNTINGdog]

i dont remember it saying "murder eny-one who does not worship me" oh and does"thau shal not kill" ring eny bells

[ThRaShEr129]

look... you need to shut your bullshit...

where did i say Hitler killed jews becuase he was catholic? i didnt. i said he killed them becuase he was insane and racsist.

you said that hitler was atheist. now you admit he was catholic. you destroyed your own argument so why do you keep coming back? you said the holocaust is proof os his ateism. but there have been many similiar events to the holocaust in the name of god. you need to study your facts becuase you look like a fucking redneck inbred.

[theHUNTINGdog]

he killed jews becuase he dident like them

and it dident go againsed his Religion

[ThRaShEr129]

but you said he killed jews becuase he was atheist? and that the holocaust was proof?

and so if killing jews didnt go against his religion (which is catholic... and you admitted that it was catholic) then it is ok to kill jews if your catholic?

[theHUNTINGdog]

fuck you did i, i cant remember if it was you but someone sead he was catholic which i spent half of last week disputing. he was athiest and killing people is ok in the athiest religion. what religion do think he was??

[ThRaShEr129]

funny how i just stated the gist of this argument and the first thing in your comment was fuck you....

can you give proof of hitlers atheism? no you cant.

can i give proof of hitlers christianity? yes i can.

-Hilter wrote in Mein Kampf, that he was doing this for god.

-Hitler's belt buckles said god with us.

-Hitler was congragulated by the pope for his actions against the jews. (which is on camera btw.).

i have named 3 proofs of his religious beliefs. now back up your evidence...

[theHUNTINGdog]

can i prove hitler was athiest yes i can

-hitler killed 6 million jews

-hitler dident eat brekfast till he saw i jew die

-hitler belived he germans were superior to jews

-where in the bible does it say "kill jews"?

do you know the pope was awere of what hitler was doing in concerntration camps.

what asshole cant se that he was only doing that stuff for his image

[AntiVenomFangX]

do you realize that you didn't prove hes an atheist...

your either stupid or just so brainwashed that your being stupid on purpose.

prove that he was an atheist you fucking lame ass primitive.

you would not say that shit in public because you know its proof of racism, proof of Catholicism, and proof that you put down random facts.

I'm thoroughly convinced now... its no longer just a disagreement... your actually stupid aren't you?

[ThRaShEr129]

you are a fucking RETARD!

all of your points are about the exact same thing!!!! the holocaust!!!! you technically have only 1 point!

you cannot say that hitler was atheist becuase he didnt like jews. i am atheist and i like jews. i have a jew friend! hitlers hatred for jews is called RACISM! not atheism... and yes the pope knew! like i said! its on CAMERA!

[theHUNTINGdog]

the bible teaches that everyone is created equally. so why did hitler belive he was geneticly superior to them. eny way the pope is just a greedy satan-worshiping idol

he also stated that he was speeding up evolution by murdering jews and wipeing out the "subrace" wow he sead that he was doing gods work WHATEVER its called lieing for his image. if hitler bwlived in the bible why did he murder people. if he belived in the bible why did he belive he was superior??

[ThRaShEr129]

ho-lee SHIT!

do i have to repeat myself???

YOU keep using OVERGENERALIZATION!!!!!!!

when did i say that all catholics kill jews?

I will repeat myself again...

Hitler was INSANE! He was RACIST! you can see white supremesists call themselves the supreme race! Hitler was not Atheist, and you cannot prove it. I have SOME evidence proving him to be religious. but its only common sense to see that he was a CRAZY RACIST PRICK!

[theHUNTINGdog]

yes and no real cathoilic is RACIST, INSANE CRAZY RACIST PRICK. he may have sead that he was catholic but that does not make it true. enyone can see that everything he does goes againsed catholisism but, however everything he does is ok by athiesm. actions speek louder than words. and the pope would have to suport him. italy were allies

[ThRaShEr129]

i hope your retarded becuase if you arent then you are the stupidest person i have ever seen!

you keep on coming back with overgeneralization!! you cannot say that no REAL catholic would do those things becuase thats not a point! HITLER was racist and insane. what about the KKK? their catholic/christian/etc. and they believe their the supreme race!!! and how can you prove killing is ok to atheists? im atheist and i dont approve of killing! i have 20 atheist friends who do not aprove of killing!

[theHUNTINGdog]

this is just geting stupid.

nothing he did was remotly catholic

eg: if you sead you were athiest and you went to church every day, prayed and accepted jesus christ id say your christian. eg. im going to tell you that im not christian

is it not concevable that th emost evil man ever to exsist is not capable of lieing?

even hitler himself sead

"if you tell a lie the people will belive it"

there more likly to belive a big lie than a small one"

[ThRaShEr129]

this is not getting stupid... YOU are.

you keep using overgeneraliztion!!!!

just becuase Hitler killed Jews, not all catholics kill jews. did i say that all catholics kill jews? no i didnt.

YOU said that to Atheists, its ok to kill. but contrary to what you might think. we have morals. we learned them the way everyone did! GROWING UP! but none of my atheist friends have ever killed nor want to kill and actually more people are killed in the name of god by religious people than atheists.

[AntiVenomFangX]

Why would he lie to himself in his diaries? Nobody saw them until he was dead.

[AntiVenomFangX]

yea thou shall not kill is part of the old testament... doesn't that just prove how stupid people who believe it are?

you can believe in the old testament which talks about how rape murder and all that good stuff is moral, but the 10 commandments say though shall not killl

[theHUNTINGdog]

tell me about this rape and murder

[AntiVenomFangX]

you just proved to me that you don't read the bible. you truly are the common christian

[theHUNTINGdog]

oh yes i read the bible but go on. about this rape and murder (and yes im awere its there but continue)

[AntiVenomFangX]

what do you consider reading the bible.

because every single christian considers themselves one who reads the bible, but they usually say they read it because they have read some of it.

but you can prove it to me where does it in the bible say that doctors are not necessary and prayer will fix any illness?

oh yea and if you go to the doctors your not a real christian, your just a faker.

[theHUNTINGdog]

oh whatever how do you know that god was useing the fucking doctor to help me

[AntiVenomFangX]

because making you sick to just send you to a doctor would make god stupid, and if hes real... then hes not a retard.

get real you primitive.

[theHUNTINGdog]

lol you think im primitive. hitler belived jews were primitive oh and your athiest

oh and were in the bible deas god say christians wont get sick?

[theHUNTINGdog]

typical athiest thinking he is better than everyone else

[AntiVenomFangX]

where does the bible say gays cant get married? it doesnt. people interpret the already prejudice bible to their liking.

i dont think you understand, if your supposed to interpret the bible then your brainwashed, no way would a "perfect" god make a book so confusing that no two christian faiths can agree on what it means.

[theHUNTINGdog]

the bible does not say: go blow someones head of with a shotgun, but that would be killing and thou shal not kill.

homosexuality is forbiden and homosexual marrage is homosexual

how do you know the people who say that gay marrage is ok are not #1 bias #2 hipocrits #3 liars? or even stupid, becuase the bible is black and white about homosexuality

its not confusing

[AntiVenomFangX]

exactly my point. the bible shouldn't be interpreted in any way other than literally, or else people will interpret it like the retarded Christians they are.

[theHUNTINGdog]

yes

[AntiVenomFangX]

you don't even read the bible...

[theHUNTINGdog]

yes. but continue about this rape and murder

[AntiVenomFangX]

hahaha yea a devout catholic doesn't want to kill Jews... this is news to me.

and if he was trying to create a master race why would that mean killing the rivaling religion? he go for people who seemed inferior

[theHUNTINGdog]

thats exactly what im saying. it was news to me to but im trying to respond to 2 people at once so i got mixed up

so what religion do you think he was? i know he was athiest

[AntiVenomFangX]

how do you know that he was atheist?? was it his cult? was it his spiritual items? was it his catholic upbringing and coincidentally picked the Jews to murder? was it his belt buckles that he made his soldiers wear that read "god with us"?

[theHUNTINGdog]

just becuase the belt buckles sead that, i would imagine that his soldiers were mostly christian so he put that on them. how do i know he was athiest? well since he had a drew a graths on how evolved people were eg. jews slightly evolved, italians more evolved, germans highly evolved. he sead that by killing jews he was speeding up evolution and natral selection and that he adired darwin. thats how i know

[AntiVenomFangX]

can you share me this evidence? cite, sources give links, etc?

Ive never heard of those, and im fascinated by the holocaust.

[ThRaShEr129]

and btw. the holocaust is not proof of his being atheist, it is proof of his racism and insanity. but if it wer to prove he was connected to a religin, it would prove him to be catholic, christian etc. becuase so many have died in the name of the lord, the crusades are an example. and what happened to the aztecs in south america is another. all those things were purgings and Convertings in the name of your saviour. saviour my right testicle!so many people were slaughtered rather than saved!

[AntiVenomFangX]

can you please explain?