@lee8264 Ummm... It's not that hard to find a reason why they stopped testing in space. They will tell you straight to your face if you ask them. It disturbs the ionosphere so much that it can cause massive blackouts here on earth. Both countries have admitted that. In fact, it was the major reason why both countries chucked a hissy fit when China decided to test a space detonation.
There is no 'problem' with the earth’s magnetic field, what they have discovered has been there before the dinosaurs were around. We (humans) are a curious animal; we ask questions that we don’t know the answer too: like a 6 year old child asking Dad 'where did I come from?' Only problem is ‘Dad’ is not around (call him “God” if you will, personally I have better things to do with my time than argue the existence of a deity we use as a crutch). So we search, we question, we look, we observe
I'd like to preface my comments by saying that I'm not anti-American or anything like this. I think this information is good. I want to know if any other scientists or agencies other than NASA around the world have discovered a problem with the Earth's magnetic shield? With a matter so important to our survival we need greater input from other countries and their agencies and satellites. Just assuming that a science statement from NASA is right is not enough scientific information to my mind.
God is the relative. ( to me ) We depend on the Sun.. The son warms.. Feeds.. Defends us from the emptiness and darkness of space. Here GOD is the Sun. Maybe another solar system there would be our god too. Then again I am kind of a fallen christian.
God is the relative. ( to me ) We depend on the Sun.. The son warms.. Feeds.. Defends us from the emptiness and darkness of space. Here GOD is the Sun. Maybe another solar system there would be our god too.
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The link with earthquakes and solar activity seems to be strong. The solar storm measurement by Themis satellites is in real time I take it ? Can data modelling from earlier monitoring currently show patterns to allow for earthquake early warning to take place or is it too early ? Plus does Themis scope off GONG data and Swarm probe information or are the programmes in isolation to each others ?
The clay pot THEORY they compare the data against is brainwashing.
It's a THEORY, not a fact so they say ok we have this theory about the magnetite in these pots and when we use that THEORY to produce data which we then compare to the strength of the Earth's current magnetosphere, it's decaying!
What they are REALLY saying is, we THEORIZE that it's decaying!
Fucking propagandists, they're the only reason I wish I still believed in Heaven and Hell!
@ghiblix2 I basically agree with that however, the misapplication of funds by the general Federal budget does in no way justify manned space flight and I agree that there is much waste in the general budget. So the greater question is how to remove the pork from the budget and convince your fellow citizens to begin the process of reform and redirection. Maybe then more resources can be directed to space exploration which btw I support, though not manned space flight.
@Baronstone WRONG! What IS stupid is pumping MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars into the LEAST productive and MOST expensive aspect of space exploration. MANNED space flight is not nearly as productive in answering questions about the universe and our solar system as UNMANNED space exploration. ANY concept of setting up permanent colonies on Mars or the moon is simply...LUDICROUS. Projects such as the Cassini probe or the Hubbel telescope has answered far, FAR MORE questions.
@exenrontexas I agree with you that unmanned space exploration is valuable. But all of your other assertions are value comparisons based on your opinion. You feel that spending taxpayer dollars on manned space missions is stupid, ludicrous, and the least productive aspect of space exploration, while unmanned missions answer "far more questions." That last shows that you are thinking only of questions of cosmology as being worth answering. I disagree.
@TsurugiMasamune Well I guess you are correct in a sense but I am curious what other reason is there to go into space but to explore that which is in space? Really. Did we land men on the moon to show how much money we could spend to put valued men in dangerous conditions to bring back a few photos and a few rock samples? All that can be done with unmanned missions except the danger. Consider that test the limits of man can be done in the oceans with far more return.
@exenrontexas I understand your view but the hurdles to overcome for man in space except for a very short period is astronomical (no pun intended). We are protected on earth by the atmosphere and the magnetosphere and any large colony on any other heavenly body would take ALL of the efforts of the rest of us to maintain. On the other hand, three fourth of THIS planet is mostly undeveloped and truly could achieve the same goals with MUCH greater benefit and MUCH less risk.
@exenrontexas Your number assumes just the surface of the ocean, lacks the whole of the ocean, also misses the fact that living underground is safer than on land & there's a lot of it. Oddly your tax dollars make it so you cannot live underground due to zoning codes.
We did land men on the moon, the rocks they gathered are referred to as the "gift that keeps giving". Humans are valuable in space right now, they turn off like robots, or get hacked by anon's & take take down sony IN SPACE!
@ransombot I live in the fourth largest US city and I have NO ZONING CODES whatsoever. The moon rocks could have EASILY been acquired with UNmanned space flights with a fraction of the cost and risk. The International Space station was almost abandoned last year due to safety and breakdown problems and it is a prison cell and a tomb waiting to happen. The men there have a death sentence and the station is the execution chambe.
@exenrontexas Putting on a production like that back then is HIGHLY improbable..
They are testing ways of making escape pods for it right now.
Commercial space makes it affordable for science, and would be a wicked cool road trip for a couple hundred (doable).
The INS would die without people there, to put out fires, keep equipment running when robots & other electronics are notorious for going haywire. Humans heal computers fry, the first steps in robotic assistance went up with discovery.
@ransombot It all boils down to this, machines are far cheap, more durable and easier to shield from the harsh space environment and until man can be made as durable as machines then machines is the way to do. And on another note, three fours of the earth is unexplored and has far more source to be exploited. The only thing useful in space is knowledge of space. There is an abundance of more useful knowledge and resources in the oceans and if we don't start working on saving..death.
@exenrontexas And now I am going to make a value assertion based on my opinion: Unmanned missions are great but we NEED to learn how to put PEOPLE in space for extended periods, how to start a COLONY and MAKE IT WORK. You say the idea of colonies is "ludicrous." I say the idea of humanity just squatting on this one planet FOREVER is RIDICULOUS...and worse, BORING.
@ghiblix2 I would certainly ridicule any government who might refuse to...find a cheap and efficient way to desalinate ocean water and still remove the dissolved minerals that might be useful so they could send a mission to Mars. The fact is that life on any celestial body within reach of man is untenable and extremely expensive to get to and support life. Three fourths of THIS planet is basicly unexplored and most of the new energy sources are coming from offshore locations.
@ghiblix2 I can only agree with you to this extent. The moon landing had enormous political value during the Cold War as did the Russians putting Sputnik into space. America gained respect from the global community from being the first to land a man on the moon. However, that goal is now gone. Instead of respect, America would receive ridicule for wasting so much resources to put a man on Mars. The fact remains that achieving a goal such as exploring the oceans would bring more value.
@ghiblix2 What you are saying, in other words, is that spending lots of money to solve difficult technological problems has many side benefits. I sometimes agree when those projects have good and wise management. We have lots of problems here on earth that could have the same benefits and directly benefit humanity. Where is the NEED to go to Mars. In a thousand years it will still be there. Solve the earths problems first.
@ghiblix2 I see no immediate need to send man back to the moon or Mars. The concept is based on the logical fallacy that we can develop a base to escape the problems of earth. Continued human existence on either Mars of the Moon is untenable under ANY scenario. The International Space Station should be the LAST colony of men in space.
This is PRECISELY why manned space flight is a very bad idea and extremely expensive to deal with. Humans can learn everything that is knowable about the universe with UNMANNED space exploration. The planned Moon and Mars manned projects should be IMMEDIATELY cancelled.
@Ratama those are sun spots. they are just parts of the sun that are slightly cooler than the surrounding surface. and no they aren't what we'd consider land at all.
Thought of something last night - the Kolbrin Bible tells us that when the Destroyer (Nibiru) passes, we will be able to hear its Trumpet. Turns out that Cosmic Radiation can be audible. Thus, when it gets close enough, its radiation will hit our atmosphere and generate an audible tone like a trumpet blast. Well, in fact, this is probably the source for the Background Hum that people began reporting in the 90's.
They know what's causing the Sun to behave like it has been. Our Heliosphere has been compressed and now the earths atmosphere. The twisted poles and hole in the magnetosphere is caused by a superimpossing electromagnetic field We have entering the ionized hydrogen cloud. The Sun is getting it ass beat!
God has everything to do with it, the magnetosphere strongly supports the existence of an intelligent designer because without it we wouldn't have our atmosphere, without an atmosphere we wouldn't be able to exist.
@7xXx666xXx7 Sure you've killed him, in your materialist view of things, but he is alive! You know how wonderfully complex our universe is and you put it down to lady luck, that takes more faith.
@height76 i thought this was Scientific matter and not Religious, but since ur at it.. just a thought, Humans are the only true Gods ever existed. Cause the God´s ppl worship do also die and thats not immortal or whatever.. is just a need ppl have to get. Gods ppl used to worship in ancient civilizations are no longer worshipped this days, therefore they are DEAD. So lets just keep it in a science form other than religion. ok? Afterall is a NASA video not a pedo vatican fag video. Cheers
I've always wondered if you could make a spacecraft that would skate on the magnetic fields of other planets, belts, blackholes ...etc, instead of using the gravity slingshot method.
Great video, although short still somewhat informative. Never even heard of Themis. Good videos like this are hard to filter out of all the other random garbage on here
Quite interesting. if the supposed reversal of the magnetic poles happens on 2012 as some believe it will make junk of what we have up there which will then interfere with new satellites. The government and major corporations have replacements ready by then. The question is. "will the new debris destroy the new?"
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The book is a good write, but I am not convinced of its title. There's enough information for me to continue to believe even after I became of age. I cannot explain were all of this "order" we percieve otherwise came from. My atheist friend does remind me that a negative proof is not a proof. I suppose there is but one way to find out scientifically, and it may take a few years or decades. If my belief is wrong, I have really lost nothing for myself but some idle pleasures. (my friend snickers)
While I am a staunch atheist, IT IS theoretically possible to prove Gods existance, just very very improbable. I recommend you read some books on the subject rather than just stating your own opinions. I suggest "The God Delusion" by Prof Richard Dawkins.
If the magnetosphere is designed to protect earth from solar winds, then there was no way that the earth could have formed by itself then, right? I mean, the magnetosphere acts as a barrier against the solar winds, thus protecting all lifeforms on earth.
It doesn't protect the "Earth". It protects the atmosphere. And before the magnetosphere formed, there was very little atmosphere. But after the magnetosphere formed, chemical reactions took place and started to build an atmosphere. Once the atmosphere was built, life started. Rough guide, but that's sort of how it happened. What is so impossible about it?
I just couldn't help myself but say....I would have thought, or in my opinion, the magnetosphere was not "designed" but had over time developed due to the metallic/iron core of the Earth rotating. I'm not sure how it came about and exactly how it works just yet...I'll be looking into it for a while due to the fact that it interests me. But please try not to bring "God" or religious belief into a scientific area/discusion/video. God is based on human belief (and imagination in my opinion).
How can anyone watch this video and still believe Apollonots were able to go beyond the magnetosphere and show absolutely no sign of radiation damage during their foray into more radiation than any human being has been subjected to.
Damn, this makes the movie Premonition much more realistic... (except for the ending where the kids are sent to another planet. Made me swear Steven Spielberg had made directed it XD)
And maybe you would like to explain your Jarrah's friends won't answer questions video, and the way you reversed our text conversation? And of course left out the rest of the conversation?
It this twisting, distorting of the facts of the real conversation that took place that makes it difficult to believe you are being in any way genuine, or have anything but contempt for protraying TRUTH.
'And maybe you would like to explain you Jarrah's friend won't answer question videos'
I made the the video before the rest of the conversation. You have still not answered the question, rather accusing me of heinous crimes. As for the comments. That's how it was displayed on screen. The comments show the times so anyone with a brain can work out what is going on. I retract acceptance of apology after this little tirade, you just aren't worth the effort. I return the olive branch, for what?
I already offered an apology for the heinous crimes. It doesn't mean I am not going to comment on your inability to admit that disintigrating and radiating innocent civilians in Japan was wrong. Something you have yet to comment on.
Why?
When you begin posting videos that directly address issues hoax proponents have with Apollo, rather than attacking, you'll find a much more receptive debate.
The choice is yours.
Most of us can be civil, when civility is offered...
'I already offered an apology for the heinous crimes'
I know, and I accepted it in good grace, then you came back at me with bile and venom you could.
'It doesn't mean I am not going to comment on your ability to admit that disintigrating and radiating innocent civilians in Japan was wrong. Something you have yet to comment on.'
I said, if I could wish the bomb could be invented, then I would. Does that tell you something or are you just constantly angry? Now you see why I block you.
And what I find even more unbelievable about your recent comment about how you would uninvent the A-bomb, is the fact that you won't even admit that unleashing that destructive power on a the Japanese people was WRONG...
Why is that?
If you want to unload that question now, and bare yourself, and your true beliefs about the horror we unleashed on the Japanese, it would go a long way towards proving you are being genuine, and not just using such loaded questions to be a purposeful ass.
As for your use of the bombing of those in Japan as a way to smear myself, and my friends let me explain something to you, in terms you may understand.
If your family, friends, etc. crops, homes, health, lives were destroyed due to another countries use of a nuclear weapon, how sensitive would you be to non-chalant questions aimed to discredit individuals. I see you really don't care about the survivors, and their families reliving the horror so you can play a little loaded question game!!!
The magnetic shield has holes in it besides the poles and radiation is now piercing the earth causing rainbow effects, nick named, chem-bows. I saw one in New York State. I theorize this to be the purpose of the classified "Chem Trail" spraying of metallic particles in every NATO country, namely aluminum, barium, et al.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? For sure there is grave concern about the solar winds reaching us as the magnetic flux shield is in degradation.
...yes but about those mass coronal ejections/sunspots; n what happens when a asteroid falls in to the sun ? I just can not find any answers to this continuous event. and how it compares to the mysterious sun spots that no one seems to be able to explain either.
Okay...For those paying attention, NASA has established how the magnetic field protects us from radiation, let's all take a huge break for LOGIC. How exactly did the Apollo anots survive all that radiation beyond the magnetic field? Without a single visible affect to their health? FAKED! Start accepting the truth of the hoax, or continued being laughed at by space radiation experts!
Obviously astronauts are exposed to solar radiation, we all are, just in varying amounts. The solar wind varies in intensity and peaks during solar storms.
The Apollo astronauts were lucky and narrowly avoided being exposed to a strong solar storm.
Also, spacesuits have a small degree of radiation shielding and minimize exposure.
Your lies are obvious to anyone with an iota of knowledge of the space environment. We are protected by the Magnetosphere and ionosphere. Beyond them, we would be dead.
There was absolutely nothing about their spacesuits which gave them any degree of radiation protection.
Your third lie can easily be verified by a visit to the NGDC, where all major solar flares/storms are listed by date and magnitude.
You are either completely ignorant, or a very bad liar ML!
Arguing that I'm wrong is certainly worth entertaining, but suggesting that I'm deliberately lying seems to imply some kind of conspiracy(I'll stay away from that one).
Surely, we are not exposed to the same amounts of radiation as astronauts, and surely our atmosphere protects us from much of it. In fact, airline workers are exposed to higher levels of solar radiation.
As for their spacesuits, a layered combination of materials do provide some protection, though I'll agree, not much.
Alright, now take a little trip down to the NGDC, and check thei CFI for MAJOR SOLAR FLARES BY DATE. Then you can retract that no strong solar flares lie you uttered. Otherwise I'll have to take that COSPIRATORIAL tone of you being a shill liar. Or at the very least ignorant of the FACTS!
watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU Just in case you are too lazy to make the trip yourself!
The problem you are having is your ignorance of the reality of the Space environment within and beyond the magnetosphere. And of course, the protection afforded to us by the magnetosphere and ionosphere.
Educate yourself and try again!
Try the green pot, it's obvious the black on isn't making you any more receptive to truth!
You are the poor excuse pretending to be an educated person. Your problem is the same as so many others. You take sources of information from NASA and treat it as if it is the BIBLE, and truth you have to subscribe to with FAITH. Instead of looking to other sources for information that shows NASA has lied. NOAA is a good start. Then, perhaps you might want to watch programs which describe the space environment. Once you begin doing that, without your Apollo blinders on, YOU MIGHT WAKE UP!
un4g1v3n1 is a simpleton, one of the Percy/Rene/Sibrel shills. He'll say anything but the truth, just like all other so-called 'truther' trolls on YouTube.
I've learnt there's no point in showing him evidence, it just doesn't compute. He denies scientific facts and worships a self taught, self published bitter liar who disputes the value of pi and claims to know more about theoretical physics than Albert Einstein. He's a kook.
Oh, I know. You see, I have that conspiracy theory fox special. I know what bullshit it was. I love watching it because it is really cool to see people who are just jealous that they didn't have a bigger part in the Apollo program make total dickheads of themselves.
As for un4g1v3n1, he is a fucktard. I think I told him that at one stage.
And as you know from the PM I sent you which shows the magnitude of the MAJOR SOLAR FLARES during Apollo missions, the Apollonots should have died. Instead they are bouncing around, making stupid statements like, " I don't think we went far enough out to encounter the Van Allen Belts." - Alan Bean
If you think your radiation research has blown a hole in Apollo, then put it forward for academic review. Your precis of radiation starts from the point of view of all radiation is bad and anyone venturing beyond earth orbit will be fried to a black crisp. You make no account of particle types, distribution, particle energies, interaction with matter. You use emotive argument such as pictures of A-bomb victims. Until you are independently scrutinised, stop peddling your research; I mean rubbish
Your ignorance of the damage done by mere low-level radiation, makes your understanding of the types and intensities of radiation in space, and the unbelievable conditions of Apollonots forty years after 'supposedly' being exposed to them, shows you to be the fool you are.
Space phsycists laugh at ignorant fools like you everyday. Just a slightly more offensive laugh than the one they emit when they hear Apollonots claiming to have been to the moon.
I take it you are talking about space researchers such as JC Buckey, S Chapman, A Iles, W Hess to name but a few. So, Professor radiation expert, let's start with the van Allen belts. What particles are they made up of and at what is the energy spectrum. If you can't answer that then I won't take you seriously. And I see you avoided my question about having your work reviewed. What's the matter, afraid people will reject it. I would, as it is the worst research into this field I have seen.
I take you don't want to engage in a meaningful scientific debate. OK. Outer belts are electrons with energies of 0.5 - 7.0 MeV. How many mm of aluminium are need to absorb electrons of this energy? Any idea what the secondary radiation is and what energy this is at? Heard of Moseley's law? Bohr theory of quantinisation? Your research is a sham, your ideas based on a man who refuted Einstein. How can you trust a man who refutes relativity, the result of this theory we all saw in 1945. Idiot.
FD, I tried to ask you this question on your silly video where you LIED about me not aswering your question about nuclear energy, but it seems you have blocked me again. So I will ask it here.
Do you believe the United States government did the right thing in murdering over 220,000 innocent Japanese civilians, by dropping the atomic bomb on them at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? .. And do you think that innocent America citizens will be repaid in kind one day?
Ha, isn't that nice. Prof Radiation had told muttboy all about my nasty comments and is looking for moral support. I did not LIE about you not answering the question, as you did not. Just as Prof Radiation is not answering my questions either.
un4g never told me about your nasty comments to him here.. I found this chanel by looking at your profile page to see where you were posting your meaningless comments.. I can't reply to your stupidity on your chanel since you blocked me and then LIED about it... and yes, I DID answer your question about the reality of nuclear energy... Why all the silly games FD? .. Can't any of you clowns ever discuss Apollo without all the unnecessary distraction tactics?
'I'm not Truman either but I have an opinion about the atomic bomb drops on Nagasaki and Hiroshima
Dont' you?'
No, I have no opinion on the subject. I told you pal you need to go and ask Truman. But you believe E=mc2 right? You believe nuclear energy is a reality?
It would be just a tad difficult for me to go ask Truman why he decided to drop the bombs that murdered over 220,000 innocent people, since he's DEAD!
Jeeze, you are one delusional freak FD.. You're obsessed with nuclear energy, you LIE about Apollo and about everyone who disagrees with your OPINION about it, and now you have NO opinion on the horrible deaths 220,000 innocent people?!? .. You're as twisted as the rest of the sociopaths who defend the Apollo LIE.
That's a shame you refuse to answer my question to you FD, especially since I answered your's .. but it really comes as no surprise, since most brainwashed governmet shills prefer not to criticize their master's evil deeds.
Why don't you quit playing the loaded question games, making distorted videos, and your attacks. If you are for peace, then your vidoes and words are completely out of place.
S-vector? I find it odd that you put it that way. As if you are correcting the way that Svectors nic is pronounced. As if you know the intention his name was suppose to be employed.
Correct . You are svector a.k.a. many more hate~mongering game~playing nics , including nazi white supremacist modelmonkey7 fresh off of Vincent0Vincent's channel .
Vince infact gave several folk your name and address, sir.
I only hope you're ready for a 3am visitation of the nasty brick bedroom window~smashing kind? Remember the 911 is always @ your disposal now .. regards
Accusing you of lying and being ignorant is un4g1v3n1s whole rhetoric. He was duped by a Fox special more than 8 years ago and still doesn't have the backbone to hold his hands up and admit he was fooled. 15,000,000 viewers, that's why Fox aired that nonsense and un4g1v3n1 fell for it hook, line and sinker. His ego told him he was right, now that he knows he's wrong, his ego tells him that if he can be fooled then so can everyone else. NEWSFLASH: NOBODY GIVES HIM ANY CREDIT!
un4g1v3n1 trolling again, he starts off libeling the brave astronauts who risked their lives and ridiculing the huge majority of earths population by saying they're being laughed at for believing the truth, then, when he has it explained in a perfectly pleasant manner he responds by calling people liars. The fact is un4g1v3n1 and his cronies were sucked in by a Fox program entitled "conspiracy theories: did we go to the moon", the clue's in the title.
Lying astronauts who lied about being on the moon deserve nothing but contempt. Those who are too lazy to investigate just a little and see how they were fooled, is understandable. They are too busy trying to survive in a world run by bastards who are leaching off their very existences.
And you are an idiot to buy one second of the Apollo Fairy Tale!
"Those who are too lazy to investigate just a little and see how they were fooled, is understandable"
It's not your laziness, it's your ego, you probably went round for weeks after that Fox special, actually believing that nonsense, but now you know it's nonsense and you just can't hold your hands up and say "OK, you got me, I was sucked in by Fox".
I've seen a couple of 'alien autopsies', and I watched a real autopsy, it's very different and I don't suggest watching them unless you're interested in anatomy, even then parts are hard to watch.
What people have to realise, is that the news networks are there for one reason, to make money by sucking as many people in as possible so they can sell advertising space. It's the same here in UK, ITN reporting UFOs and life on Mars, everyone's gonna get BSE then bird flu then swine flu. £$£$£$
ive seen some real ones too, not in person tho. the definition of news isnt the same as when i was a kid. back then there were real journalists. since the talk show era its been nothing but televised national inquirer caca. thats a fantasy rag here that spews constant trash. its all bells and whistles to keep the civilians occupied and dumbed down with things like what britneys doing. swine flu was engineered by baxter and they just had criminal charges brought against them for bioterrorism
36,000 ppl die each year from the normal flu. 40,000 ppl die per day from starvation, etc etc on a planet with a food surplus. we are in a nasty game right now and its gonna get real interesting in the next few years.
I'm not saying swine flu wasn't engineered (I'd have to read more about it), I'm saying the news networks picked the story up because they knew they could scare people with it and run endless 'MUST SEE' stories about how to survive it etc. not for the purpose of stupefying and controlling people, but because that's how they make money. That's why you hear about 1 pregnant 12 yr old and not millions of kids staying home doing homework.
i think they removed it immediately. i mention it below. Was about moon landing hoax guy. I asked what the interstellar & interplanetary medium were. I also said something about while researching i started thinking about star trek as a psyop (its a hobby) to condition ppl to accept the 'trip' to the moon & finance it. I figured if it was a psyop then star trek shoulda been cancelled shortly after the moon landing, i looked it up & 'coincidentally' it was cancelled 2 months after. just strange.
I don't know man could be, I've never looked into it. We've got plenty of scientific data and helpful inventions for the home, emergency services etc. from space travel, but certainly the race for the moon was more politically motivated.
Conspiracy theorists have a hard time dealing with things like the cold war/space race, during which the USSR tracked and confirmed Apollo flights even though it would have been more politically advantageous to deny it.
Im interested in verifiable facts only. We're gonna have cyborgs pretty soon cause of the advancements that always follow wars, just like after ww2. dont know how thats gonna work out if someone goes terminator lol. as for that ussr tracking data, how can i get ahold of that. did u see chinas space trip with air bubbles coming from the helmets & suits, now thats a psyop. there are theories but real nasty men do conspire & have done some very naughty things in the last few years. want a red pill?
Absolutely, people have conspired in the past and will conspire again but that doesn't make everything they don't understand a conspiracy.
You know, technically, there are already cyborgs, anyone with a pacemaker for instance.
I guess you would have to look for info about the SSP (Soviet space program) re: Apollo flights. I know they were tracked independently too, here in England (Jodrell Bank), Madrid and Germany
thanks for the info. how about that red pill? want one. I feel compelled to ask since one should be ready to accept potentially damaging psychological info before jumping in. tis just like the movie lol. so what do u say, are u up for a real interesting and mind altering read? if u are, i can send you a private message with a link or two.
fear turns on fight/flight response thus survival depends on physical(genetic) attributes that organism relies on during fight/flight. Those who have no fear always die first. Ex. read any documentary war book from any century. fear guides natural selection.
space limitation require oversimplifying..right? Basically, fear helps to identify a danger which prompts avoiding it - adaptating to survive. one also will be adapting to a food niche to survive - panda's thumb. it's possible that avoiding predators panda got into a food niche where the thumb adaptation was a winner. So, fear is not easy but necesarry. However, hope, bravery, boldness etc. are social concepts with one purpose I see to disguise normal instincts.
Wolves didn't evolve fur because they were afraid of the cold, they evolved fur because the furrier ones survived better and passed on their genes more successfully.
I disagree with your statement, "fears is the force behind evolution..", because fear is not a force, it's an emotion which requires consciousness, which requires something evolved enough to have that. Fear exists because of evolution, not the other way round.
That's the second time you've accused me of demagoguery, I didn't pull you up on it the first time, but since your theory has fallen at the first hurdle and you persist with this, let's do it.
New and exciting words are great fun, but you need to learn the meaning before you go around blurting them out willy-nilly lest you look a little 'emperors new clothes'.
So please explain how I "seem to be a demagogue" and what was demagogic about my earlier question.
b/c u don't argue on the subject. I saw u say ..fear is an easy way out..and responded that fear is a force behind evolution. did I say the only force? no..a force. y? b/c it breads caution and helps improve survival. So, it's not an easy way out but a normal way of self preservation for all organisms. ur Qs are related to basic darwinian principles - not relevant here. Nobody will argue that self preservation is not part of evolution. fear is normal. it helps species survival hence to evolve.
You need to go back and re-read everything. I never once said that "fear is an easy way out", you've misquoted me because you jumped into the end of a conversation and read what you wanted to read. You stated "fears is the force behind evolution".
"the force" implies the only force, I asked you how this 'force' was responsible for the pandas thumb, it's the first example that came to mind, and it's totally relevant.
You either don't understand what fear is or how evolution works, you definitely don't understand what demagoguery is or how to form a logical argument e.g.
"Fear is an emotion, emotion requires an evolved consciousness therefore fear cannot be the force behind evolution.".
OR Genes and the whole universe are innatley connected to each other, and any given environmental condition, given particular existing animals, will naturally mutate the creatures to eloquently fit the environment, in a universal system of both the laws of physics, the elements, and biology.
Nothing "causes" it, there is no "why" - it just is, and we are but specks in an infinite realm of possibility, where structuralised realms like this logically will evolve and survive.
I don't think the background music is particularly appropriate when the sun reaches solar maximum in 2012.
QBridg3 2 months ago
@QBridg3 According to David Morrison NO solar events in 2012. :P LOL
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NASA unfortunately is not a credible source. We all know NASA is a government agency. Need I say more...
MrKillAllTheLawyers 2 months ago
cool, why havent nations built grids that don't collapse under an intense solar storm yet? are we just waiting for the burp that kills us or what?
raptor731 3 months ago
@lee8264 Ummm... It's not that hard to find a reason why they stopped testing in space. They will tell you straight to your face if you ask them. It disturbs the ionosphere so much that it can cause massive blackouts here on earth. Both countries have admitted that. In fact, it was the major reason why both countries chucked a hissy fit when China decided to test a space detonation.
gadget133 4 months ago
i love how this has nothing to do with 2012 or Nibiru but yet it somehow attracts the ConspiRetards with their outrageous claims.
gambleyourhealth 6 months ago
Who can help me build the speed of light spacecraft, e-mail me.wmv
The spacecraft can beyond the light.
I tell you the secrets of electricity and magnetism, you help me build the spacecraft.
Seek cooperation the global.
----Xuhui
zxhthinker 7 months ago
@zxhthinker you just made my day...
PortCactus 7 months ago
/watch?v=vGb9S-1rpZE
MUST WATCH! GO NOW! PROOF 2012 IS THE END NO JOKE! RESEARCH I HAVE RECENTLY DONE ALL ADDS UP
BeAwaredBePrepared 7 months ago
How many times were the words "Magnetic Field" said in this video?
AletheAce 8 months ago
Sub:Inadequacy in perception leads to next level of science to Nature
THEMIS has done an excellent job to drive Science -Wake-up
Cosmology Vedas Interlinks helps further
viswagsena108 8 months ago
There is no 'problem' with the earth’s magnetic field, what they have discovered has been there before the dinosaurs were around. We (humans) are a curious animal; we ask questions that we don’t know the answer too: like a 6 year old child asking Dad 'where did I come from?' Only problem is ‘Dad’ is not around (call him “God” if you will, personally I have better things to do with my time than argue the existence of a deity we use as a crutch). So we search, we question, we look, we observe
wombatg0 9 months ago
poop
Daffy711 10 months ago
I'd like to preface my comments by saying that I'm not anti-American or anything like this. I think this information is good. I want to know if any other scientists or agencies other than NASA around the world have discovered a problem with the Earth's magnetic shield? With a matter so important to our survival we need greater input from other countries and their agencies and satellites. Just assuming that a science statement from NASA is right is not enough scientific information to my mind.
creatms 10 months ago
God is the relative. ( to me ) We depend on the Sun.. The son warms.. Feeds.. Defends us from the emptiness and darkness of space. Here GOD is the Sun. Maybe another solar system there would be our god too. Then again I am kind of a fallen christian.
imaninjajk 11 months ago
God is the relative. ( to me ) We depend on the Sun.. The son warms.. Feeds.. Defends us from the emptiness and darkness of space. Here GOD is the Sun. Maybe another solar system there would be our god too.
imaninjajk 11 months ago
Revelation 16:7-9 (KJV) And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
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currentspider 1 year ago
The link with earthquakes and solar activity seems to be strong. The solar storm measurement by Themis satellites is in real time I take it ? Can data modelling from earlier monitoring currently show patterns to allow for earthquake early warning to take place or is it too early ? Plus does Themis scope off GONG data and Swarm probe information or are the programmes in isolation to each others ?
noggin100 1 year ago
The clay pot THEORY they compare the data against is brainwashing.
It's a THEORY, not a fact so they say ok we have this theory about the magnetite in these pots and when we use that THEORY to produce data which we then compare to the strength of the Earth's current magnetosphere, it's decaying!
What they are REALLY saying is, we THEORIZE that it's decaying!
Fucking propagandists, they're the only reason I wish I still believed in Heaven and Hell!
JonDeth 1 year ago
@ghiblix2 I basically agree with that however, the misapplication of funds by the general Federal budget does in no way justify manned space flight and I agree that there is much waste in the general budget. So the greater question is how to remove the pork from the budget and convince your fellow citizens to begin the process of reform and redirection. Maybe then more resources can be directed to space exploration which btw I support, though not manned space flight.
exenrontexas 1 year ago 2
@exenrontexas Thats just stupid, you support space exploration but not the exploration of space?
Baronstone 1 year ago
@Baronstone WRONG! What IS stupid is pumping MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars into the LEAST productive and MOST expensive aspect of space exploration. MANNED space flight is not nearly as productive in answering questions about the universe and our solar system as UNMANNED space exploration. ANY concept of setting up permanent colonies on Mars or the moon is simply...LUDICROUS. Projects such as the Cassini probe or the Hubbel telescope has answered far, FAR MORE questions.
exenrontexas 1 year ago 3
@exenrontexas you mad brother?
MrMuffinManMoh 2 months ago
@exenrontexas I agree with you that unmanned space exploration is valuable. But all of your other assertions are value comparisons based on your opinion. You feel that spending taxpayer dollars on manned space missions is stupid, ludicrous, and the least productive aspect of space exploration, while unmanned missions answer "far more questions." That last shows that you are thinking only of questions of cosmology as being worth answering. I disagree.
TsurugiMasamune 1 month ago
@TsurugiMasamune Well I guess you are correct in a sense but I am curious what other reason is there to go into space but to explore that which is in space? Really. Did we land men on the moon to show how much money we could spend to put valued men in dangerous conditions to bring back a few photos and a few rock samples? All that can be done with unmanned missions except the danger. Consider that test the limits of man can be done in the oceans with far more return.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas I understand your view but the hurdles to overcome for man in space except for a very short period is astronomical (no pun intended). We are protected on earth by the atmosphere and the magnetosphere and any large colony on any other heavenly body would take ALL of the efforts of the rest of us to maintain. On the other hand, three fourth of THIS planet is mostly undeveloped and truly could achieve the same goals with MUCH greater benefit and MUCH less risk.
exenrontexas 1 month ago
@exenrontexas Your number assumes just the surface of the ocean, lacks the whole of the ocean, also misses the fact that living underground is safer than on land & there's a lot of it. Oddly your tax dollars make it so you cannot live underground due to zoning codes.
We did land men on the moon, the rocks they gathered are referred to as the "gift that keeps giving". Humans are valuable in space right now, they turn off like robots, or get hacked by anon's & take take down sony IN SPACE!
ransombot 2 weeks ago
@ransombot I live in the fourth largest US city and I have NO ZONING CODES whatsoever. The moon rocks could have EASILY been acquired with UNmanned space flights with a fraction of the cost and risk. The International Space station was almost abandoned last year due to safety and breakdown problems and it is a prison cell and a tomb waiting to happen. The men there have a death sentence and the station is the execution chambe.
exenrontexas 2 weeks ago
@exenrontexas Putting on a production like that back then is HIGHLY improbable..
They are testing ways of making escape pods for it right now.
Commercial space makes it affordable for science, and would be a wicked cool road trip for a couple hundred (doable).
The INS would die without people there, to put out fires, keep equipment running when robots & other electronics are notorious for going haywire. Humans heal computers fry, the first steps in robotic assistance went up with discovery.
ransombot 2 weeks ago
@ransombot It all boils down to this, machines are far cheap, more durable and easier to shield from the harsh space environment and until man can be made as durable as machines then machines is the way to do. And on another note, three fours of the earth is unexplored and has far more source to be exploited. The only thing useful in space is knowledge of space. There is an abundance of more useful knowledge and resources in the oceans and if we don't start working on saving..death.
exenrontexas 2 weeks ago
@exenrontexas And now I am going to make a value assertion based on my opinion: Unmanned missions are great but we NEED to learn how to put PEOPLE in space for extended periods, how to start a COLONY and MAKE IT WORK. You say the idea of colonies is "ludicrous." I say the idea of humanity just squatting on this one planet FOREVER is RIDICULOUS...and worse, BORING.
TsurugiMasamune 1 month ago
@ghiblix2 I would certainly ridicule any government who might refuse to...find a cheap and efficient way to desalinate ocean water and still remove the dissolved minerals that might be useful so they could send a mission to Mars. The fact is that life on any celestial body within reach of man is untenable and extremely expensive to get to and support life. Three fourths of THIS planet is basicly unexplored and most of the new energy sources are coming from offshore locations.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
@ghiblix2 I can only agree with you to this extent. The moon landing had enormous political value during the Cold War as did the Russians putting Sputnik into space. America gained respect from the global community from being the first to land a man on the moon. However, that goal is now gone. Instead of respect, America would receive ridicule for wasting so much resources to put a man on Mars. The fact remains that achieving a goal such as exploring the oceans would bring more value.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
@ghiblix2 What you are saying, in other words, is that spending lots of money to solve difficult technological problems has many side benefits. I sometimes agree when those projects have good and wise management. We have lots of problems here on earth that could have the same benefits and directly benefit humanity. Where is the NEED to go to Mars. In a thousand years it will still be there. Solve the earths problems first.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
@ghiblix2 I see no immediate need to send man back to the moon or Mars. The concept is based on the logical fallacy that we can develop a base to escape the problems of earth. Continued human existence on either Mars of the Moon is untenable under ANY scenario. The International Space Station should be the LAST colony of men in space.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
This is PRECISELY why manned space flight is a very bad idea and extremely expensive to deal with. Humans can learn everything that is knowable about the universe with UNMANNED space exploration. The planned Moon and Mars manned projects should be IMMEDIATELY cancelled.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
wat are the black spots at 1:57 is there land?
Ratama 1 year ago
@Ratama those are sun spots. they are just parts of the sun that are slightly cooler than the surrounding surface. and no they aren't what we'd consider land at all.
Dragonkrux 1 year ago
Crop Circles are real. I love them for telling us all of this
murderface74 1 year ago
Thought of something last night - the Kolbrin Bible tells us that when the Destroyer (Nibiru) passes, we will be able to hear its Trumpet. Turns out that Cosmic Radiation can be audible. Thus, when it gets close enough, its radiation will hit our atmosphere and generate an audible tone like a trumpet blast. Well, in fact, this is probably the source for the Background Hum that people began reporting in the 90's.
Nibiru is back and its bad.
Bad to the Bone...
theoferrum 1 year ago
@theoferrum - Argument from ignorance GO!!!
IlovemyGlock21 1 year ago
They know what's causing the Sun to behave like it has been. Our Heliosphere has been compressed and now the earths atmosphere. The twisted poles and hole in the magnetosphere is caused by a superimpossing electromagnetic field We have entering the ionized hydrogen cloud. The Sun is getting it ass beat!
wiseyeffect 1 year ago
God has everything to do with it, the magnetosphere strongly supports the existence of an intelligent designer because without it we wouldn't have our atmosphere, without an atmosphere we wouldn't be able to exist.
height76 1 year ago
@height76 God is dead, god remains dead and we have killed him
7xXx666xXx7 1 year ago
@7xXx666xXx7 Sure you've killed him, in your materialist view of things, but he is alive! You know how wonderfully complex our universe is and you put it down to lady luck, that takes more faith.
height76 1 year ago
@height76 i thought this was Scientific matter and not Religious, but since ur at it.. just a thought, Humans are the only true Gods ever existed. Cause the God´s ppl worship do also die and thats not immortal or whatever.. is just a need ppl have to get. Gods ppl used to worship in ancient civilizations are no longer worshipped this days, therefore they are DEAD. So lets just keep it in a science form other than religion. ok? Afterall is a NASA video not a pedo vatican fag video. Cheers
666theli 1 year ago
@666theli Sorry - I didn't mean to get religious on here!
height76 1 year ago
I've always wondered if you could make a spacecraft that would skate on the magnetic fields of other planets, belts, blackholes ...etc, instead of using the gravity slingshot method.
xgipsonx 1 year ago
@xgipsonx we have already done tht just send a space craft into orbit and viola!
darthclone78 1 year ago
Great video, although short still somewhat informative. Never even heard of Themis. Good videos like this are hard to filter out of all the other random garbage on here
solardutch 1 year ago
is it possable to build a large lence in space between the sun and earth and sheld us from the radiation?
bandroom59 1 year ago
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13601135525 1 year ago
@13601135525 what the fuck does god have to do with this?
404MetalHead 1 year ago
@404MetalHead had the same thought.......
WilliamMacstone 1 year ago
A great learning experience.
cyer5 1 year ago
see my movies for real evidence..
freethisone 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this video on youtube, making it available to all.
It's linked now in the "Sun Earth Connections" thread at Sapo's Joint. net
TRoccetta 2 years ago
Quite interesting. if the supposed reversal of the magnetic poles happens on 2012 as some believe it will make junk of what we have up there which will then interfere with new satellites. The government and major corporations have replacements ready by then. The question is. "will the new debris destroy the new?"
Monkor001 2 years ago
I love the female voice you can barely tell she is a robot, she sounds like advanced IBM TTS
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Lmao
Her husband is the Windows TTS...
Moreover, they called their child "HAL"...
ispyder666 2 years ago
You got to hear the Sailsport TTS for Java Learning, nearly perfect male voice, have you heard the voices at IBM or @ text-to-speech[DOT] imtranslator[DOT]net, fantastic technology, they cost a lot of money, but I have no need for them, just amazed at the technology!
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Sexist
MapleClown 2 years ago
Listen to Russian TV channel RT's voice over, you would not realize it is a TTS unless you are aware of the technology.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
The book is a good write, but I am not convinced of its title. There's enough information for me to continue to believe even after I became of age. I cannot explain were all of this "order" we percieve otherwise came from. My atheist friend does remind me that a negative proof is not a proof. I suppose there is but one way to find out scientifically, and it may take a few years or decades. If my belief is wrong, I have really lost nothing for myself but some idle pleasures. (my friend snickers)
antienjigglement 2 years ago
While I am a staunch atheist, IT IS theoretically possible to prove Gods existance, just very very improbable. I recommend you read some books on the subject rather than just stating your own opinions. I suggest "The God Delusion" by Prof Richard Dawkins.
jellygiraffe 2 years ago
That might be a stupid question... but how is North and South defined for the sun? =/
seek223 2 years ago
Better question, does matter enter the black hole from the north and from its south?
javonoUTube 2 years ago
"NASA" has lied so much,how can any one bleave them,or there theory on anything!!!!!
available270v2 2 years ago
If the magnetosphere is designed to protect earth from solar winds, then there was no way that the earth could have formed by itself then, right? I mean, the magnetosphere acts as a barrier against the solar winds, thus protecting all lifeforms on earth.
BlackHeartMetal666 2 years ago
It doesn't protect the "Earth". It protects the atmosphere. And before the magnetosphere formed, there was very little atmosphere. But after the magnetosphere formed, chemical reactions took place and started to build an atmosphere. Once the atmosphere was built, life started. Rough guide, but that's sort of how it happened. What is so impossible about it?
gadget133 2 years ago
I just couldn't help myself but say....I would have thought, or in my opinion, the magnetosphere was not "designed" but had over time developed due to the metallic/iron core of the Earth rotating. I'm not sure how it came about and exactly how it works just yet...I'll be looking into it for a while due to the fact that it interests me. But please try not to bring "God" or religious belief into a scientific area/discusion/video. God is based on human belief (and imagination in my opinion).
master1140 2 years ago
How can anyone watch this video and still believe Apollonots were able to go beyond the magnetosphere and show absolutely no sign of radiation damage during their foray into more radiation than any human being has been subjected to.
It's all so ludicrous!!!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Damn, this makes the movie Premonition much more realistic... (except for the ending where the kids are sent to another planet. Made me swear Steven Spielberg had made directed it XD)
graveswill 2 years ago
And maybe you would like to explain your Jarrah's friends won't answer questions video, and the way you reversed our text conversation? And of course left out the rest of the conversation?
It this twisting, distorting of the facts of the real conversation that took place that makes it difficult to believe you are being in any way genuine, or have anything but contempt for protraying TRUTH.
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
'And maybe you would like to explain you Jarrah's friend won't answer question videos'
I made the the video before the rest of the conversation. You have still not answered the question, rather accusing me of heinous crimes. As for the comments. That's how it was displayed on screen. The comments show the times so anyone with a brain can work out what is going on. I retract acceptance of apology after this little tirade, you just aren't worth the effort. I return the olive branch, for what?
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
I already offered an apology for the heinous crimes. It doesn't mean I am not going to comment on your inability to admit that disintigrating and radiating innocent civilians in Japan was wrong. Something you have yet to comment on.
Why?
When you begin posting videos that directly address issues hoax proponents have with Apollo, rather than attacking, you'll find a much more receptive debate.
The choice is yours.
Most of us can be civil, when civility is offered...
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
'I already offered an apology for the heinous crimes'
I know, and I accepted it in good grace, then you came back at me with bile and venom you could.
'It doesn't mean I am not going to comment on your ability to admit that disintigrating and radiating innocent civilians in Japan was wrong. Something you have yet to comment on.'
I said, if I could wish the bomb could be invented, then I would. Does that tell you something or are you just constantly angry? Now you see why I block you.
Bye!
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
Bile and venom? You are funny. I guess criticism of your lack of commenting on an obvious crime against human beings in another country is just awful.
You poor, poor little guy.
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
And what I find even more unbelievable about your recent comment about how you would uninvent the A-bomb, is the fact that you won't even admit that unleashing that destructive power on a the Japanese people was WRONG...
Why is that?
If you want to unload that question now, and bare yourself, and your true beliefs about the horror we unleashed on the Japanese, it would go a long way towards proving you are being genuine, and not just using such loaded questions to be a purposeful ass.
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
As for your use of the bombing of those in Japan as a way to smear myself, and my friends let me explain something to you, in terms you may understand.
If your family, friends, etc. crops, homes, health, lives were destroyed due to another countries use of a nuclear weapon, how sensitive would you be to non-chalant questions aimed to discredit individuals. I see you really don't care about the survivors, and their families reliving the horror so you can play a little loaded question game!!!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Meaningful scientific debate. You post some big words you learned by surfing wikipedia, and you reckon yourself capable of scientific debate.
Admit the truth FD, you are a worthless little cut and past troll.
The truth shall set you free....But your ignorance lives on FOREVER!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
HAARP has punched 3 holes in the magnetosphere already.
It will weaken the protective functionality of the magnetosphere.
CommanderUTube 2 years ago
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The magnetic shield has holes in it besides the poles and radiation is now piercing the earth causing rainbow effects, nick named, chem-bows. I saw one in New York State. I theorize this to be the purpose of the classified "Chem Trail" spraying of metallic particles in every NATO country, namely aluminum, barium, et al.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? For sure there is grave concern about the solar winds reaching us as the magnetic flux shield is in degradation.
YouWinForever 2 years ago
"solar wind" LOL Gotta love that description.
They make it sound like a summer breeze. How very refreshing.
It's magnetic/electric interplanetary lighting.
CredoVeritas 2 years ago
Signs and Wonders.
sunniski 2 years ago
There is an alarming rise in whale and dolphin beaching around the world because of this.
wotsganninon 2 years ago
sooooo...when are we going to make the Earth into a Battery!???
BrodyLuv2 2 years ago 3
...yes but about those mass coronal ejections/sunspots; n what happens when a asteroid falls in to the sun ? I just can not find any answers to this continuous event. and how it compares to the mysterious sun spots that no one seems to be able to explain either.
docatomics 2 years ago
What do you mean by "mysterious sunspots"? Because there is a lot of data that explains what sunspots are.
gadget133 2 years ago
Okay...For those paying attention, NASA has established how the magnetic field protects us from radiation, let's all take a huge break for LOGIC. How exactly did the Apollo anots survive all that radiation beyond the magnetic field? Without a single visible affect to their health? FAKED! Start accepting the truth of the hoax, or continued being laughed at by space radiation experts!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Obviously astronauts are exposed to solar radiation, we all are, just in varying amounts. The solar wind varies in intensity and peaks during solar storms.
The Apollo astronauts were lucky and narrowly avoided being exposed to a strong solar storm.
Also, spacesuits have a small degree of radiation shielding and minimize exposure.
MonsterLopes 2 years ago
Your lies are obvious to anyone with an iota of knowledge of the space environment. We are protected by the Magnetosphere and ionosphere. Beyond them, we would be dead.
There was absolutely nothing about their spacesuits which gave them any degree of radiation protection.
Your third lie can easily be verified by a visit to the NGDC, where all major solar flares/storms are listed by date and magnitude.
You are either completely ignorant, or a very bad liar ML!
Three major FAILS!!!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Arguing that I'm wrong is certainly worth entertaining, but suggesting that I'm deliberately lying seems to imply some kind of conspiracy(I'll stay away from that one).
Surely, we are not exposed to the same amounts of radiation as astronauts, and surely our atmosphere protects us from much of it. In fact, airline workers are exposed to higher levels of solar radiation.
As for their spacesuits, a layered combination of materials do provide some protection, though I'll agree, not much.
MonsterLopes 2 years ago
Alright, now take a little trip down to the NGDC, and check thei CFI for MAJOR SOLAR FLARES BY DATE. Then you can retract that no strong solar flares lie you uttered. Otherwise I'll have to take that COSPIRATORIAL tone of you being a shill liar. Or at the very least ignorant of the FACTS!
watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU Just in case you are too lazy to make the trip yourself!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Alan Shephard (Apollo 13 and 14) died in 1998 from leukemia
Jack Swigert (Apollo 13) died 1982 from bone cancer
So... Where did you get your information that no astronaut had ever suffered harmful effects?
gadget133 2 years ago
Normal Earth bound people get both bone cancer, and leukemia, so your excuse is both weak and proves nothing.
Now, take a little trip to your local hospital to verify that truth I just wrote!
THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER CAME BACK ALIVE, let alone live for another 10 to 40 years!
Learn about the radiation in space from an astrophysicist, then come back and try again!
I can't believe so many 'supposedly' intelligent people are so damned stupid!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
I think you may have to do a little study on radiation and its effects. I can point to some rather obvious examples if you like?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors.
Madame Curie.
What this points to is that radiation does not kill as fast as you seem to think. Definitely not as you state "THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER CAME BACK ALIVE".
I agree with one comment you made though:
"I can't believe so many 'supposedly' intelligent people are so damned stupid!"
Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
gadget133 2 years ago
The problem you are having is your ignorance of the reality of the Space environment within and beyond the magnetosphere. And of course, the protection afforded to us by the magnetosphere and ionosphere.
Educate yourself and try again!
Try the green pot, it's obvious the black on isn't making you any more receptive to truth!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Right. I did consider that. Your statement is rather pointless as it gives no meaning to anything that has been stated previously.
Have you tried the black pot? Because maybe it is the green pot that is skewing your thought process.
PS. Stop with the "educate yourself" shit. It is a form of fallacy ad hominem argument.
If that is how you have to argue, then you are a poor excuse for an educated person.
(See, I can do it too)
gadget133 2 years ago
You are the poor excuse pretending to be an educated person. Your problem is the same as so many others. You take sources of information from NASA and treat it as if it is the BIBLE, and truth you have to subscribe to with FAITH. Instead of looking to other sources for information that shows NASA has lied. NOAA is a good start. Then, perhaps you might want to watch programs which describe the space environment. Once you begin doing that, without your Apollo blinders on, YOU MIGHT WAKE UP!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
You say BIBLE and FAITH quite a bit don't you. Are you one of those creationists???
gadget133 2 years ago
Do you believe you should blindly believe in Fairy Tales like Noah's Ark? Talking snakes? How about eating evil apples?
You believe Apollo astronots were radiation proof, so wouldn't put it past you!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
Yes, I do. Where do you think the Fantastic Four got their super powers from?
gadget133 2 years ago
un4g1v3n1 is a simpleton, one of the Percy/Rene/Sibrel shills. He'll say anything but the truth, just like all other so-called 'truther' trolls on YouTube.
I've learnt there's no point in showing him evidence, it just doesn't compute. He denies scientific facts and worships a self taught, self published bitter liar who disputes the value of pi and claims to know more about theoretical physics than Albert Einstein. He's a kook.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Oh, I know. You see, I have that conspiracy theory fox special. I know what bullshit it was. I love watching it because it is really cool to see people who are just jealous that they didn't have a bigger part in the Apollo program make total dickheads of themselves.
As for un4g1v3n1, he is a fucktard. I think I told him that at one stage.
gadget133 2 years ago
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METR0D0ME 2 years ago
And as you know from the PM I sent you which shows the magnitude of the MAJOR SOLAR FLARES during Apollo missions, the Apollonots should have died. Instead they are bouncing around, making stupid statements like, " I don't think we went far enough out to encounter the Van Allen Belts." - Alan Bean
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
If you think your radiation research has blown a hole in Apollo, then put it forward for academic review. Your precis of radiation starts from the point of view of all radiation is bad and anyone venturing beyond earth orbit will be fried to a black crisp. You make no account of particle types, distribution, particle energies, interaction with matter. You use emotive argument such as pictures of A-bomb victims. Until you are independently scrutinised, stop peddling your research; I mean rubbish
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
Your ignorance of the damage done by mere low-level radiation, makes your understanding of the types and intensities of radiation in space, and the unbelievable conditions of Apollonots forty years after 'supposedly' being exposed to them, shows you to be the fool you are.
Space phsycists laugh at ignorant fools like you everyday. Just a slightly more offensive laugh than the one they emit when they hear Apollonots claiming to have been to the moon.
I laugh at you too!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
I take it you are talking about space researchers such as JC Buckey, S Chapman, A Iles, W Hess to name but a few. So, Professor radiation expert, let's start with the van Allen belts. What particles are they made up of and at what is the energy spectrum. If you can't answer that then I won't take you seriously. And I see you avoided my question about having your work reviewed. What's the matter, afraid people will reject it. I would, as it is the worst research into this field I have seen.
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
Did you go visit any survivors of the nuclear bombs of WWII yet, to see if they believe America unleashed horror on their civilian population yet?
You are nothing but a propagandist spewing whore FD. My research is easily researchable by yourself. I won't do it for you you lazy fuck.
Now piss off...
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
I take you don't want to engage in a meaningful scientific debate. OK. Outer belts are electrons with energies of 0.5 - 7.0 MeV. How many mm of aluminium are need to absorb electrons of this energy? Any idea what the secondary radiation is and what energy this is at? Heard of Moseley's law? Bohr theory of quantinisation? Your research is a sham, your ideas based on a man who refuted Einstein. How can you trust a man who refutes relativity, the result of this theory we all saw in 1945. Idiot.
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
FD, I tried to ask you this question on your silly video where you LIED about me not aswering your question about nuclear energy, but it seems you have blocked me again. So I will ask it here.
Do you believe the United States government did the right thing in murdering over 220,000 innocent Japanese civilians, by dropping the atomic bomb on them at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? .. And do you think that innocent America citizens will be repaid in kind one day?
straydog02 2 years ago
Ha, isn't that nice. Prof Radiation had told muttboy all about my nasty comments and is looking for moral support. I did not LIE about you not answering the question, as you did not. Just as Prof Radiation is not answering my questions either.
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
un4g never told me about your nasty comments to him here.. I found this chanel by looking at your profile page to see where you were posting your meaningless comments.. I can't reply to your stupidity on your chanel since you blocked me and then LIED about it... and yes, I DID answer your question about the reality of nuclear energy... Why all the silly games FD? .. Can't any of you clowns ever discuss Apollo without all the unnecessary distraction tactics?
straydog02 2 years ago
'Do you believe the United States government did the right thing in murdering over 220,000 innocent Japanese civilians...'
You'll have to ask Truman. I never made the decision.
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
I'm not Truman either but I have an opinion about the atomic bomb drops on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Don't you?
straydog02 2 years ago
'I'm not Truman either but I have an opinion about the atomic bomb drops on Nagasaki and Hiroshima
Dont' you?'
No, I have no opinion on the subject. I told you pal you need to go and ask Truman. But you believe E=mc2 right? You believe nuclear energy is a reality?
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
It would be just a tad difficult for me to go ask Truman why he decided to drop the bombs that murdered over 220,000 innocent people, since he's DEAD!
Jeeze, you are one delusional freak FD.. You're obsessed with nuclear energy, you LIE about Apollo and about everyone who disagrees with your OPINION about it, and now you have NO opinion on the horrible deaths 220,000 innocent people?!? .. You're as twisted as the rest of the sociopaths who defend the Apollo LIE.
straydog02 2 years ago
'It would be just a tad difficult for me to ask Truman why he decided to drop the bombs that murdered over 220,000 innocent people, since he's dead.'
That's a shame, you'll never find out if the Untied States did the right thing bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
FractalDimensions 2 years ago
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un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
That's a shame you refuse to answer my question to you FD, especially since I answered your's .. but it really comes as no surprise, since most brainwashed governmet shills prefer not to criticize their master's evil deeds.
straydog02 2 years ago
LOL. You can't even answer a simple question.
0megaM00 2 years ago
I apologize for that nasty comment FD. I am not completely sure that you are svector, and so the comment was unwarranted.
Although I still believe you are a wimp for not admitting that the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan were very, very wrong of US?
Killing innocents in such a way, is never ok.
Why can't you just admit that?
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
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FractalDimensions 2 years ago
Why don't you quit playing the loaded question games, making distorted videos, and your attacks. If you are for peace, then your vidoes and words are completely out of place.
S-vector? I find it odd that you put it that way. As if you are correcting the way that Svectors nic is pronounced. As if you know the intention his name was suppose to be employed.
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
' I am not S-vector ..'
Correct . You are svector a.k.a. many more hate~mongering game~playing nics , including nazi white supremacist modelmonkey7 fresh off of Vincent0Vincent's channel .
Vince infact gave several folk your name and address, sir.
I only hope you're ready for a 3am visitation of the nasty brick bedroom window~smashing kind? Remember the 911 is always @ your disposal now .. regards
The Lieutenant .
ApolloColumbo 2 years ago
Accusing you of lying and being ignorant is un4g1v3n1s whole rhetoric. He was duped by a Fox special more than 8 years ago and still doesn't have the backbone to hold his hands up and admit he was fooled. 15,000,000 viewers, that's why Fox aired that nonsense and un4g1v3n1 fell for it hook, line and sinker. His ego told him he was right, now that he knows he's wrong, his ego tells him that if he can be fooled then so can everyone else. NEWSFLASH: NOBODY GIVES HIM ANY CREDIT!
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
un4g1v3n1 trolling again, he starts off libeling the brave astronauts who risked their lives and ridiculing the huge majority of earths population by saying they're being laughed at for believing the truth, then, when he has it explained in a perfectly pleasant manner he responds by calling people liars. The fact is un4g1v3n1 and his cronies were sucked in by a Fox program entitled "conspiracy theories: did we go to the moon", the clue's in the title.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Lying astronauts who lied about being on the moon deserve nothing but contempt. Those who are too lazy to investigate just a little and see how they were fooled, is understandable. They are too busy trying to survive in a world run by bastards who are leaching off their very existences.
And you are an idiot to buy one second of the Apollo Fairy Tale!
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
"Those who are too lazy to investigate just a little and see how they were fooled, is understandable"
It's not your laziness, it's your ego, you probably went round for weeks after that Fox special, actually believing that nonsense, but now you know it's nonsense and you just can't hold your hands up and say "OK, you got me, I was sucked in by Fox".
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
I loved the alien autopsty faux news did. now that was quality journalism.
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
I've seen a couple of 'alien autopsies', and I watched a real autopsy, it's very different and I don't suggest watching them unless you're interested in anatomy, even then parts are hard to watch.
What people have to realise, is that the news networks are there for one reason, to make money by sucking as many people in as possible so they can sell advertising space. It's the same here in UK, ITN reporting UFOs and life on Mars, everyone's gonna get BSE then bird flu then swine flu. £$£$£$
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
ive seen some real ones too, not in person tho. the definition of news isnt the same as when i was a kid. back then there were real journalists. since the talk show era its been nothing but televised national inquirer caca. thats a fantasy rag here that spews constant trash. its all bells and whistles to keep the civilians occupied and dumbed down with things like what britneys doing. swine flu was engineered by baxter and they just had criminal charges brought against them for bioterrorism
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
36,000 ppl die each year from the normal flu. 40,000 ppl die per day from starvation, etc etc on a planet with a food surplus. we are in a nasty game right now and its gonna get real interesting in the next few years.
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
I'm not saying swine flu wasn't engineered (I'd have to read more about it), I'm saying the news networks picked the story up because they knew they could scare people with it and run endless 'MUST SEE' stories about how to survive it etc. not for the purpose of stupefying and controlling people, but because that's how they make money. That's why you hear about 1 pregnant 12 yr old and not millions of kids staying home doing homework.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
agreed, altho machiavelli said the only two ways to control ppl are thru fear or hope. ur right i see only fear, and they make tons of cash on it.
did u see my comment about the interstellar and interplanetary medium etc?
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
No, where is it?
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
i think they removed it immediately. i mention it below. Was about moon landing hoax guy. I asked what the interstellar & interplanetary medium were. I also said something about while researching i started thinking about star trek as a psyop (its a hobby) to condition ppl to accept the 'trip' to the moon & finance it. I figured if it was a psyop then star trek shoulda been cancelled shortly after the moon landing, i looked it up & 'coincidentally' it was cancelled 2 months after. just strange.
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
I don't know man could be, I've never looked into it. We've got plenty of scientific data and helpful inventions for the home, emergency services etc. from space travel, but certainly the race for the moon was more politically motivated.
Conspiracy theorists have a hard time dealing with things like the cold war/space race, during which the USSR tracked and confirmed Apollo flights even though it would have been more politically advantageous to deny it.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Im interested in verifiable facts only. We're gonna have cyborgs pretty soon cause of the advancements that always follow wars, just like after ww2. dont know how thats gonna work out if someone goes terminator lol. as for that ussr tracking data, how can i get ahold of that. did u see chinas space trip with air bubbles coming from the helmets & suits, now thats a psyop. there are theories but real nasty men do conspire & have done some very naughty things in the last few years. want a red pill?
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
Absolutely, people have conspired in the past and will conspire again but that doesn't make everything they don't understand a conspiracy.
You know, technically, there are already cyborgs, anyone with a pacemaker for instance.
I guess you would have to look for info about the SSP (Soviet space program) re: Apollo flights. I know they were tracked independently too, here in England (Jodrell Bank), Madrid and Germany
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
thanks for the info. how about that red pill? want one. I feel compelled to ask since one should be ready to accept potentially damaging psychological info before jumping in. tis just like the movie lol. so what do u say, are u up for a real interesting and mind altering read? if u are, i can send you a private message with a link or two.
Psy0pAgent 2 years ago
No pills for me thanks, but I'm always up for an interesting read so you're welcome to PM me any links you think are interesting.
I'll have a look later, I'm getting off for now, I'll let you know what I think.
Peace.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Fear is easier I think and you probably need fear in order to sell hope.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
fears is the force behind evolution..
chernomo 2 years ago
How is fear the force behind evolution?
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
fear turns on fight/flight response thus survival depends on physical(genetic) attributes that organism relies on during fight/flight. Those who have no fear always die first. Ex. read any documentary war book from any century. fear guides natural selection.
chernomo 2 years ago
I see what you're saying but I think you're oversimplifying evolution and I don't agree.
What does a pandas 'thumb' have to do with fear?
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
that's a demagogic question.
space limitation require oversimplifying..right? Basically, fear helps to identify a danger which prompts avoiding it - adaptating to survive. one also will be adapting to a food niche to survive - panda's thumb. it's possible that avoiding predators panda got into a food niche where the thumb adaptation was a winner. So, fear is not easy but necesarry. However, hope, bravery, boldness etc. are social concepts with one purpose I see to disguise normal instincts.
chernomo 2 years ago
Wolves didn't evolve fur because they were afraid of the cold, they evolved fur because the furrier ones survived better and passed on their genes more successfully.
I disagree with your statement, "fears is the force behind evolution..", because fear is not a force, it's an emotion which requires consciousness, which requires something evolved enough to have that. Fear exists because of evolution, not the other way round.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Which area of microbiology are you involved in BTW?
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
That looks like a cheeky question, but it's relevant because my next questions are;
Have you ever measured an emotional response in a microbe?
Do you believe that microbes have evolved?
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
you seem to be a demagouge..
chernomo 2 years ago
That's the second time you've accused me of demagoguery, I didn't pull you up on it the first time, but since your theory has fallen at the first hurdle and you persist with this, let's do it.
New and exciting words are great fun, but you need to learn the meaning before you go around blurting them out willy-nilly lest you look a little 'emperors new clothes'.
So please explain how I "seem to be a demagogue" and what was demagogic about my earlier question.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
b/c u don't argue on the subject. I saw u say ..fear is an easy way out..and responded that fear is a force behind evolution. did I say the only force? no..a force. y? b/c it breads caution and helps improve survival. So, it's not an easy way out but a normal way of self preservation for all organisms. ur Qs are related to basic darwinian principles - not relevant here. Nobody will argue that self preservation is not part of evolution. fear is normal. it helps species survival hence to evolve.
chernomo 2 years ago
You need to go back and re-read everything. I never once said that "fear is an easy way out", you've misquoted me because you jumped into the end of a conversation and read what you wanted to read. You stated "fears is the force behind evolution".
"the force" implies the only force, I asked you how this 'force' was responsible for the pandas thumb, it's the first example that came to mind, and it's totally relevant.
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
You either don't understand what fear is or how evolution works, you definitely don't understand what demagoguery is or how to form a logical argument e.g.
"Fear is an emotion, emotion requires an evolved consciousness therefore fear cannot be the force behind evolution.".
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
Remember, the hope dies last..child..
chernomo 2 years ago
ooooo profound...
METR0D0ME 2 years ago
OR Genes and the whole universe are innatley connected to each other, and any given environmental condition, given particular existing animals, will naturally mutate the creatures to eloquently fit the environment, in a universal system of both the laws of physics, the elements, and biology.
sudnaidu 2 years ago
Nothing "causes" it, there is no "why" - it just is, and we are but specks in an infinite realm of possibility, where structuralised realms like this logically will evolve and survive.
sudnaidu 2 years ago