if you buy an import the money you spen goes to another contry !!!!!! you want our economy to bounce back reopen the steal mills and quit buying import sh@$
start making everything ourselves and export our goods but dont import theirs !! we used to be good at that !!!!!!
7.59 is the same time as a Corvette C6, it's faster than a Viper SRT, NSX-R, Audi R8, WRX STI and even a new M6. The Nissan GT-R is only 4 seconds faster.
Pretty damn fast for a barge. Maybe its soft settings make it better on the Nordschleife.
There is so much shit talking about american cars im glad GM has 2 Ring records,however next year GM may be owned by Audi the way things are looking.Also if it was not for Americas love of cars there probably wouldnt be as many Exotics in the market place since America purchases 50% of all exotics so shut your faces
In your demented little world maybe. Until you become the bigwig who presides over track times, the CTS-V owns the nurburgring record for a sedan, and no amount of your denial will change that.
I never said dealer options don't count. I said unofficial and wholly unproven times don't count. So the ACR's time stands, but your bullshit 7:49 audi time that doesn't really exist does not.
very nice numbnuts, but where is the evidence that this was a stock car? All I see is one time that doesn't exist on any other list, and no way of verifying it. And no your word isn't good enough
Because you're making shit up. Strung out over 3-4 websites? It isn't, it just isn't. And you said you got it from an M5 blog, but there are hundreds of M5 blogs. Try using an actual name next time
Damn dude, you're just a whole new dimension of retarded...
They were not "corsa" tires, they were thinly disguised racing tires, that are not available on the RS4, at all, in any country, on any option list. Completely aftermarket. They did NOT come from a dealer...honestly quit making shit up.
Bull shit, if the audi could manage 7:49 on factory tires you'd have been posting that the whole time, so I KNOW thats bullshit. And that time doesn't even exist on any list of N-ring tracktimes I can find
And FYI simple one that isn't a roll cage in the CTS-V is a bar rigged up to hold the camera, it has no structural benefits whatsoever.
that aint going to happen none of the big three are going down. the government won't let that happen. if any go down every single auto maker that has plants here in the u.s will also suffer. and may go bankrupt. Toyota, Honda all those have the same parts manufacturer and if they go down every one will
it is appearant you haven't been keeping up with the auto industry. Ford has sold more cars this year than toyota, dodge beleive it or not has sold more vehicles than honda and subaru combined. The problem is that is the parts manfacturer closes down all plants based here in the us for toyota and honda will also hasve to close. everbody loses. so quit thinking just cause the big three go under toyota and honda will live on. they wont.
ok. in irak guess what they drive for cabs , cop cars and other shit crappy carollas. whats your point. do you know why cops preffer crown vicc over jap cars. cause they can handle the abuse they put em through. the body structure of a toyota won't last that long.
@santiagomel00 wow i hope you were kidding that is DEFINATELY not why cops drive crown vics. its because the crown vic is an american made car. all gov agencies drive american made cars because they come from OUR country. idiot
This was cited LONG before the current CTS-V debuted, and thisly long before they even cared about it.
So if you're so sure, why not pull up all the info you can find on that lap, and prove the RS4 was on stock tires before discrediting something as bias? And here's some food for thought, would GM be able to call the CTS-V the fastest stock sedan around the ring if that RS4 had been completely stock?
German cars are the best in performance and luxury, yet they are the worst in terms of reliability. If you want something with speed, drop around 70k on a C AMG or M3 but for a true experience in speed, get an M5. That is what I call beautiful engineering. If you are looking for luxury, but reliability as well, the Lexus LS460 is good. BUT DO NOT! and I REPEAT DO NOT GET AN AMERICAN CAR!
SOME automatics are faster than manual, and this is mostly just in the last couple years, and the "fast" automatics aren't on all the new cars, their mostly on cars like a cts-v, m series mercedes the gtr n shit like that. won't be long before lil shits like an aveo and yaris have the same trannys
Your statement only proves you know nothing about cars or even less of engineering. An automatic gear box is much faster. As they say a computer can shift faster than a human. Example the GTR which uses an amazing gearbox. What makes a difference is the way an automatic is geared. The automatic transmission seems to be used more for meeting EPA regulations and on demand. Remember computers can compute faster than the human brain therefore it is faster. Automatic is faster than a manual.
I run an auto, and it shifts hard and fast, but only when I tell it to. Your statement is correct as far as the newer auto trannys go, but I still believe that, to get the ultimate driving experience, manual is the way to go.
most professional drivers and engineers alike agree ... the need for a manual gearbox disappears in a high powered vehicle ... however it is the control of being able to shift up or down when the driver wants to that is the real key ... if an automatic can do that ... faster than a manual ... which ... it now can ... then the manual transmission has become obselete
The new auto gearboxes are computer controlled twin clutch manuals with auto shifting ability. They are faster than manuals. They combine 2 geartrains together along with dual clutches and gears are preselected prior to changing so just switches from one gear train to the otherwhere the gear is already shifted. One train having 1st, 3rd and 5th, the other 2nd, 4th and 6th. Very fast. Use as clutchless manual or fully auto.
My girfriend's grandparents had a caddy with over 600,000 original miles on it. They drove it cross country and to different states all the time. Sadly it was plowed into by a drunk driver in their own driveway. There are many caddies on the street well over 30 years old, never rebuilt, and running perfectly. Quality did go down hill in later models but caddy is well capable of building a rock solid reliable, indestructible car.
I've owned numerous European cars and would never own one again. My crappy 1989 mustang with 150,000 miles on it is more reliable than my last Land Rover, which was 10 years younger and had a mere 40k miles on it. European cars are some of the most troublesome on the planet.
You might be suffering from a perceptual bias. In the US, you're surrounded by American cars and they can be afforded by the poorest members of society, who frequently don't care for their stuff well.
If you look at a lot of reliability ratings done by indepedent firms, and you look at issues like the cost of repairs and replacement parts, most European cars fair extremely poor.
Yeah, Land Rover sucks, but cars like Audi are amazing. I have a VW Jetta from 2004 that has 160 grand on it and nothing's gone wrong with it. My brother has a 2000 model with the same results. However, his Caviler was in the shop more than out of it. Japanese are the best though, I have a 81 Toyota pickup that has over 200,000 on it and runs fine.
My father's astro van went 325 thousand miles on one transmisson no engine rebuilds and only 3 sets of sparkplugs since it rolled out of the factory. The Transsmission finally gave up the ghost last summer after 6 cross continental trips, 3 of wich pulling a trailer full of furniture. We are putting another transsmission in it and freshening up the engine and it should last at least another 150 thousand miles. However my mom's German enginered Chrysler has had NOTHING but problems.
true, and although european/american cars are all built around the world (honda plant in ohio, etc) they still charge double for parts and service on an "import" that isn't even imported.
Our Ford Focus (It's an extra car, don't laugh too hard) didn't have one problem... until all but one of the engine mounts broke simultaneously, but that just made it sound like it was going 100 mph at any speed.
Being the only American car we've ever owned, I've actually been quite pleased with its reliability.
By the way, I had a new 2001 Audi TT that broke down six times in my first year of ownership. I had a 5 year old A6 that had no dashboard lights , a bad pollution control system and worn out suspension control arms. I now own a Lexus, thank you.
So you had a 1.8T VW. Let me pull out my crystal ball.....hmmm, I see a lot of check engine lights, lots of visits to the dealer and ultimately a new set of ignition coils.
remember speed does not kill!!! its the mistakes we make while speeding that kills a jet at 500 mph dont kill
taffapp 1 year ago
WOW! a lot of accurate comments thumbed down here, thats funny.
The Cts-v cheated its way to that time, and it never held any record to begin with.
VettesR4Pussys 1 year ago
@VettesR4Pussys lol ahaha
UFCextra 1 year ago
wow that was quick and can you believe the zr1 only beat it by what 15 seconds MAYBE i dont remember the number but wasnt much faster
sublimekid247 2 years ago
De la daube cette caisse lol
ORBOTZ 2 years ago
wrong wrong wrong ! porshe panamera holds the record
22kaka22gerrard 2 years ago
you are wrong the Radical SR8 hold the record
MrFootboul 2 years ago
if you buy an import the money you spen goes to another contry !!!!!! you want our economy to bounce back reopen the steal mills and quit buying import sh@$
start making everything ourselves and export our goods but dont import theirs !! we used to be good at that !!!!!!
HemiPoweredRedneck 2 years ago
7.59 is the same time as a Corvette C6, it's faster than a Viper SRT, NSX-R, Audi R8, WRX STI and even a new M6. The Nissan GT-R is only 4 seconds faster.
Pretty damn fast for a barge. Maybe its soft settings make it better on the Nordschleife.
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mr2ya 3 years ago
There is so much shit talking about american cars im glad GM has 2 Ring records,however next year GM may be owned by Audi the way things are looking.Also if it was not for Americas love of cars there probably wouldnt be as many Exotics in the market place since America purchases 50% of all exotics so shut your faces
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mr2ya 3 years ago
In your demented little world maybe. Until you become the bigwig who presides over track times, the CTS-V owns the nurburgring record for a sedan, and no amount of your denial will change that.
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Damn you're retarded...do you even know what you're talking about?
The RS4 was on r-compound tires, it wasn't stock, the CTS-V was. You wanna try putting the CTS-V on the same tires and see what happens?
Deal with it, the CTS-V has the record, end of story.
mak450 3 years ago 2
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mr2ya 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
I never said dealer options don't count. I said unofficial and wholly unproven times don't count. So the ACR's time stands, but your bullshit 7:49 audi time that doesn't really exist does not.
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mr2ya 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Oh yeah, got any proof of that mofo? Because as far as google and yahoo are concerned that time just doesn't exist. So why don't you provide a link?
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
LAWL, I'll bet. Then tell me the terms you used for the search
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
very nice numbnuts, but where is the evidence that this was a stock car? All I see is one time that doesn't exist on any other list, and no way of verifying it. And no your word isn't good enough
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Because you're making shit up. Strung out over 3-4 websites? It isn't, it just isn't. And you said you got it from an M5 blog, but there are hundreds of M5 blogs. Try using an actual name next time
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Damn dude, you're just a whole new dimension of retarded...
They were not "corsa" tires, they were thinly disguised racing tires, that are not available on the RS4, at all, in any country, on any option list. Completely aftermarket. They did NOT come from a dealer...honestly quit making shit up.
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Bull shit, if the audi could manage 7:49 on factory tires you'd have been posting that the whole time, so I KNOW thats bullshit. And that time doesn't even exist on any list of N-ring tracktimes I can find
And FYI simple one that isn't a roll cage in the CTS-V is a bar rigged up to hold the camera, it has no structural benefits whatsoever.
mak450 3 years ago
that aint going to happen none of the big three are going down. the government won't let that happen. if any go down every single auto maker that has plants here in the u.s will also suffer. and may go bankrupt. Toyota, Honda all those have the same parts manufacturer and if they go down every one will
santiagomel00 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
it is appearant you haven't been keeping up with the auto industry. Ford has sold more cars this year than toyota, dodge beleive it or not has sold more vehicles than honda and subaru combined. The problem is that is the parts manfacturer closes down all plants based here in the us for toyota and honda will also hasve to close. everbody loses. so quit thinking just cause the big three go under toyota and honda will live on. they wont.
santiagomel00 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
ok. in irak guess what they drive for cabs , cop cars and other shit crappy carollas. whats your point. do you know why cops preffer crown vicc over jap cars. cause they can handle the abuse they put em through. the body structure of a toyota won't last that long.
santiagomel00 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
So you're saying that Sales effect Sales numbers. Wow, thats a novel concept. It doesnt matter who is buying the cars, a sold car is a sold car.
froochie123 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
CTS-V is KING!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago 2
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mr2ya 2 years ago
CTS-V SMOKES XFR, M5, E63!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
@myra
ZR1 IS KING!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
CTS-V SMOKES M5, XFR, E63!!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
@myra
CTS-V is KING!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
@myra
America is KING!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
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mr2ya 2 years ago
@ youlance
You are full of SHIT!!!
SHIT!!!
mr2ya 2 years ago
@youlance29 *President
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 wow i hope you were kidding that is DEFINATELY not why cops drive crown vics. its because the crown vic is an american made car. all gov agencies drive american made cars because they come from OUR country. idiot
BM2Hixon 1 year ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
On stock tires? Not according to what I've heard...
MrCodPiece 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
Yeah well from what I've heard, it was on tires not available on the RS4's option list.
MrCodPiece 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
This was cited LONG before the current CTS-V debuted, and thisly long before they even cared about it.
So if you're so sure, why not pull up all the info you can find on that lap, and prove the RS4 was on stock tires before discrediting something as bias? And here's some food for thought, would GM be able to call the CTS-V the fastest stock sedan around the ring if that RS4 had been completely stock?
mak450 3 years ago
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mr2ya 3 years ago
the interior looks pretty junky, the car looks to white boy lol
AudiRS6Boy 3 years ago
German cars are the best in performance and luxury, yet they are the worst in terms of reliability. If you want something with speed, drop around 70k on a C AMG or M3 but for a true experience in speed, get an M5. That is what I call beautiful engineering. If you are looking for luxury, but reliability as well, the Lexus LS460 is good. BUT DO NOT! and I REPEAT DO NOT GET AN AMERICAN CAR!
adidasboi33 3 years ago
Hmmm seems biased. This CTS-V is faster than an M5, isn't it?
tblack21 3 years ago
yes
AcomsRazor1776 3 years ago
SOME automatics are faster than manual, and this is mostly just in the last couple years, and the "fast" automatics aren't on all the new cars, their mostly on cars like a cts-v, m series mercedes the gtr n shit like that. won't be long before lil shits like an aveo and yaris have the same trannys
ilikeboxing 3 years ago
that actually happened a long time ago
yanster420 3 years ago
Brabus Buillit: fastest sedan in the world
Bugatti2798 3 years ago
Ya but brabus's sedan isn't a production sedan, and plus it never ran a lap on the nurburing.
PlayaJattXP 3 years ago 8
cuz u would die taking a corner
JEEP2010 3 years ago
I remember Brabus giving a Merc Rocket to a road tester and it broke down, wasn't thrashing it either, all caught on TV, embarrasing.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago 2
ha .. i remember watching that now that you mention it haha
cgd2007 3 years ago
Brabus Umm wait till LPE Makes a package for the Cadillac V now we are talkin after market
Bader88 3 years ago
a automatic gear box will never ever be faster than a manual one. as the car that carries it. M3 will be a lot faster
jonysuave 3 years ago
AT's have already become faster than MT's.
NucleoVega 3 years ago 2
Your statement only proves you know nothing about cars or even less of engineering. An automatic gear box is much faster. As they say a computer can shift faster than a human. Example the GTR which uses an amazing gearbox. What makes a difference is the way an automatic is geared. The automatic transmission seems to be used more for meeting EPA regulations and on demand. Remember computers can compute faster than the human brain therefore it is faster. Automatic is faster than a manual.
KAJ33T 3 years ago
Yes, Faster Acceleration.
saabstar357 3 years ago
I run an auto, and it shifts hard and fast, but only when I tell it to. Your statement is correct as far as the newer auto trannys go, but I still believe that, to get the ultimate driving experience, manual is the way to go.
Smokeyvette 3 years ago
most professional drivers and engineers alike agree ... the need for a manual gearbox disappears in a high powered vehicle ... however it is the control of being able to shift up or down when the driver wants to that is the real key ... if an automatic can do that ... faster than a manual ... which ... it now can ... then the manual transmission has become obselete
cgd2007 3 years ago
The new auto gearboxes are computer controlled twin clutch manuals with auto shifting ability. They are faster than manuals. They combine 2 geartrains together along with dual clutches and gears are preselected prior to changing so just switches from one gear train to the otherwhere the gear is already shifted. One train having 1st, 3rd and 5th, the other 2nd, 4th and 6th. Very fast. Use as clutchless manual or fully auto.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago
exactly my point in the previous statement ... a straight up manual transmission is on the way out
cgd2007 3 years ago
cool they tested this on my birthday. the cts v rules.
mellamoenrique 3 years ago
The BMW M3, Mercedes C63 AMG, and Audi RS4 are all going to last longer than this though.
acontinuityofparks 3 years ago
My girfriend's grandparents had a caddy with over 600,000 original miles on it. They drove it cross country and to different states all the time. Sadly it was plowed into by a drunk driver in their own driveway. There are many caddies on the street well over 30 years old, never rebuilt, and running perfectly. Quality did go down hill in later models but caddy is well capable of building a rock solid reliable, indestructible car.
accountsuck2 3 years ago
On what basis would you assume that a BMW, and (struggling to keep from laughing out loud) an AUDI would last longer?
Cadillac's reliability ratings on the CTS are very high.
danieleriskay 3 years ago 2
It's American. I love the CTS, but things break on every American car I've known.
acontinuityofparks 3 years ago
I've owned numerous European cars and would never own one again. My crappy 1989 mustang with 150,000 miles on it is more reliable than my last Land Rover, which was 10 years younger and had a mere 40k miles on it. European cars are some of the most troublesome on the planet.
You might be suffering from a perceptual bias. In the US, you're surrounded by American cars and they can be afforded by the poorest members of society, who frequently don't care for their stuff well.
danieleriskay 3 years ago 2
If you look at a lot of reliability ratings done by indepedent firms, and you look at issues like the cost of repairs and replacement parts, most European cars fair extremely poor.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Yeah, Land Rover sucks, but cars like Audi are amazing. I have a VW Jetta from 2004 that has 160 grand on it and nothing's gone wrong with it. My brother has a 2000 model with the same results. However, his Caviler was in the shop more than out of it. Japanese are the best though, I have a 81 Toyota pickup that has over 200,000 on it and runs fine.
acontinuityofparks 3 years ago
160,000 in 4 years? You, sir, drive a lot.
Paradiddler45 3 years ago
My father's astro van went 325 thousand miles on one transmisson no engine rebuilds and only 3 sets of sparkplugs since it rolled out of the factory. The Transsmission finally gave up the ghost last summer after 6 cross continental trips, 3 of wich pulling a trailer full of furniture. We are putting another transsmission in it and freshening up the engine and it should last at least another 150 thousand miles. However my mom's German enginered Chrysler has had NOTHING but problems.
AcomsRazor1776 3 years ago
true, and although european/american cars are all built around the world (honda plant in ohio, etc) they still charge double for parts and service on an "import" that isn't even imported.
setablazebyyou 3 years ago
Our Ford Focus (It's an extra car, don't laugh too hard) didn't have one problem... until all but one of the engine mounts broke simultaneously, but that just made it sound like it was going 100 mph at any speed.
Being the only American car we've ever owned, I've actually been quite pleased with its reliability.
Paradiddler45 3 years ago
Stick to the facts Jack. The caddy was fastest.
By the way, I had a new 2001 Audi TT that broke down six times in my first year of ownership. I had a 5 year old A6 that had no dashboard lights , a bad pollution control system and worn out suspension control arms. I now own a Lexus, thank you.
seyfarth 3 years ago 2
my first car was an 02 jetta 1.8t ... constantly had problems ... when it comes to reliability ... vw/audi isn't the way to go
cgd2007 3 years ago
So you had a 1.8T VW. Let me pull out my crystal ball.....hmmm, I see a lot of check engine lights, lots of visits to the dealer and ultimately a new set of ignition coils.
seyfarth 3 years ago 3
oh no ... it gets better ... it was a tiptronic
cgd2007 3 years ago
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GMminivans9968 3 years ago 2