I love the look Jane has on her face when she calls for Mr. Rivers. It's like "Fool! Can you not see she loves you!? Now I have to talk some sense into you!"
I find it admirable for Rochester to find equal restraint in that situation. He does speak unfair nonsense about them living together as brother and sister. But his Byronic character is passionate and slightly aggressive. I think one of my fav. lines in the 2011 version is "But whatever I do with this cage, I cannot get at you, and it is your soul that I want. Why can't you come of your own free will?" it shows how far he might've gone physically if he didn't have that restraint & love for her.
It's so funny how whenever people watch these period drams they start speaking in the same fashion, i mean way :) I studided this for my Alevel .. It must be me in the year 2011 but despite him having a wife, which was as far as everyone could see it a mistake and a tragic story, he tries hard to make a life with Jane , mentioning villas, other houses, secret lives. If I loved a man so greatly and was not worried about my standing in society I would try to come to some arrangement :)
@MsSilentia Thanks for your helpful comments and explanations. Never quite looked at it in this way. I've only seen the 1997, 2006, and 2011 versions. Trying to watch everyone that was made...have you? Which is your favorite?
I have also seen the 1996, 1983, 1973 and 1970 versions (yes, i admit it is somewhat nerdy ;))
They are all up on YouTube.
There is also one complete from 1934 (I think) that is so terribly bad that it is quite amusing...
2006 is actually my favourite, mostly beause it is so well acted in almost every scene. I cannot imagine anything more convincing than Stephen's Rochester getting a real emotional chock at Jane's return in the end.
But 1983 is closer in detail and dialogue and has the advantage that you would get the novel right even if you had never heard about it. All the others take a lot of liberties with the story. And the child actors at Loowood in 1983 are marvellous. They alone make it worth watching. Otherwise it felt too stiff and shallow for me.
1996 has an interesting angle. It is shortened almost behind the recognisable but is still keen on two themes in the novel that are daring even today.
I would say Watch them all. I hated the 1997 since it turned Jane into Rochester's victim instead of his soul-mate and I did not really understand the 1970. It felt somewhat kinky. But jane Eyre is a complicated novel with many options in it. Why not just see how others have interpreted it. Maybe you will be provoked by some but that is part of the fun =)
Just one thing and then I will shut up for a while. 1983 Rochester was fun, looking at Jane like the wolf must have been looking at the Little Red Hood. When they visited Bertha after the failed wedding I felt they ought to have checked the remain of the attic as well...
And when I later happened to see Timothy Dalton as James Bond I was almost dying ;-)
I think I must also say that I too was very impressed by the separation scene in 2011. That was in a way even more daring than this. I have not seen any other separation scene that really gets as close to the intentions in the novel. This one (2006) takes a creative hold of the story and manages to combine the desire, the fight and the despair from the original in a comprehensible way but it avoids the violence. 2011's separation scene really made my back-hair rise.
Jane would have gone back even if his circumstances hadn't changed since she left before. It was her concern for him which brought her back. Am I wrong in my thinking this?
I think this is the greatest common missunderstanding about Jane Eyre. She leaves him when she finds out he is married because she thinks he will just drag her down to his own deprived lifestyle, and in the end hate her, like he hates the memory of his earlier mistresses. She hates herself for deserting him.
In the end she changes her mind. It is very obvious if you read her thoughts on her way back to Thornfield. (To be continued)
At the inn near Thornfield she admits to herself that she has no business with a married man. Still she goes on with not very clear motives. (I think them clear enough but then I am not a Victorian governess...)
The last moment before she actually sees the house she finally admits to herself that she will probably run to him if she finds him:
"And if I did—what then? God bless him! What then? Who would be hurt by my once more tasting the life his glance can give me?"
Then the descensy (and probably the publishibillity) is saved by her finding out about the burned house and Berthas' death.
the point that many readers miss is that she finds out that after admitting to herself that she intends to see him. Brontë wrote a very provocative and freespoken novel and balanced throu the whole book at the edge of what would be acceptable. Successfully running away with a married man would never work in Victorian litterature but she went very close. (tbc)
Some have tried to interprete it as her planning to live as his friend, in a mere platonic relation, maybe waiting for Bertha to die. (That is a good Christian stand-point, don't you think ;-)) But there is nothing at all in the novel to support that. The novel is actually very daring, full of erothic symbols and intimations. Many readers do not get that since we are used to plainer ways of expressing those things today.
I think you miss-interpret her hearing his voice. She had been concerned for him ever since she ran away from Thornfield. When she had no reports about him she was sure he was "going down" [my expression] somewere at the continent.
The moment when she is about to accept StJohn she hears the voice.
Her reflection is:
"it is the work of nature. She was roused, and did—no miracle—but her best.”
To me it seems very clear that nature says her place is with Rochester.
At Thornfield she finds the fire "was not of late occurrence. Winter snows [...-] amidst the drenched piles of rubbish, spring had cherished vegetation: grass and weed grew here and there between the stones and fallen rafters."
So why should Rochester call out to her at just that moment? He responds to her distress and calls for her - not the opposite.
@MsSilentia. Yes... But I was focusing on how people are drawn to this version more because in this scene it is very sexual. In the other version (2011) there isn't a scene such as this, it was cleaner and I respect that much more.
As to Jane going back to him thinking him still a married man, do you think she was going back be his lover? I always thought that she sensed something in his voice without fully knowing what exactly but that something happened to him and she went out of concern. J
It was difficult to figure out why so many are hooked on this version of Jane E.( I'm not saying this is the only reason) This sexual tension scene explains it all. We live in a world where billions throw their morals out the window for a handsome face, I guess to many lying on a bed with a married man, kissing, caressing isn't a big deal. Stick to the 2011 version where that Jane "must respect herself"
Mr. Rivers and Jane study language and read all different kinds of books, they laugh and joke with his sisters. They all become best friends. Jane grows and learns and becomes a better woman, how sad they left this part out. I'm still hoping they didn't leave out the family connection part.
Mr.r : come and live with me jane . we will live like brother and sister !! ooh be real after all that love and kissing !! woow it will be hard to be true !! hehehe !! i would never imagine Mr.Ro as my brother with all that hot look !! uuuh ! it will be damn hard too live with and never got in bed with !! uuh !!
It broke my heart a little when she left him in the book, to "see" such a man weeping is too much...plus st john majorly irritates me stupid manipulative cranky pants
I had so many things to do today, and now I am stuck watching this. lol I love this movie, book story, can't believe haven't watched this version before.
Has anyone else been skipping over the... Questionable scenes? I admit that I admire the romance between Jane and Mr. Rochester (and the actors), however do we REALLY need all that? Bleh!
Other than those scenes I adore this movie. I should be doing work right now but instead I am watching Jane Eyre... Nice.
@vvfan1993 You can't mean that.....That's just so SO WRONG!!!! I for one have always wanted to see the sexual tension between jane and mr.rochester expand into something further, and lo, my life is complete...However, if u want to see the exact book to book version, try the version with timothy dalton as mr.rochester. Its pretty good...
@rachelwrite46 I was thinking the same thing.. he kisses her and she says "I do".. then his hand leaves her hair, slides down and he goes "Now, what do/would you say now?"... got to admit my imagination is running wild in that part :D
okay... now it shows her running away. yup, got it.
And oh yeah, I know jane and mr. rochester are just kissing but dang... I'm blushing... HA! ^-^ Mr. Rochester just cannot kiss innocently for the life of him it all has to be all sexed up even though they're not even freaking doing it!
men should read all these books, guys tell us what rochester tells jane, what mr. darcy tells elizabeth, and we will surrender, guys this is the way to get girls!!!!!! is so hard to understand????
Try to guess what they are learning at Theater school...
Toby Stephens is a very good actor, who brings across a strong emotional presence before the camera. But surely you do not think he is getting a real emotional shock in the end when Jane comes out of nothing and kisses him to prove she is real! That must be far more skillful acting than this!
That clock would have been a very expensive thing at that time. Rosylin gave all of those things to St John's schools because she wanted him to be happy- but she knew that he was happier sacrificing her. *chills*
When Jane says to rivers " Don't! You have the chance to love someone, who loves you with all her soul, not many people are that lucky. You may never find that again" That quote actually brings me to tears; Janes Passion and complete grief from losing her soul mate is clear to see in those words. Its also very true, which makes it even more heart breaking,
The kissing scene is far from original, but i like to see Jane on the edge of loosing herself, her believes, her morality. It makes her so alive, so human.
See, here's the thing, the confrontation scene from the book is written for an audience with sensibilities that are several hundred years old and a portrayed through a medium that requires the characters to act nearing melodrama proportions in order to convey the intended emotions. Come on "you treat me as if I am some toad or ape" "Oh Jane...my hope my love my life" are nice words but a tad over done. So the problem for the film is to convey his desperation to a modern audience w/o being silly
@dreamersky87 Now the question is, what would a modern man on the edge of losing the love of his life do to keep her? Try to seduce her maybe? A desperate act (because we know that even if he managed it he still wouldn't ensure that he could keep her), but one that a modern audience can relate and not be turned off by the over done melodrama that comes with transferring the book word for word on to the screen. So though it is not in the book and Jane Eyre Loyalists around the globe are
@dreamersky87 shuddering in horror, so me the seduction scene portrays just how much he wants her to stay, how much she wants to stay, and in the end how neither of their wishes is enough to keep them together. Which makes this film an excellent ADAPTATION of the novel
I think it is also something else. It struck me that they had turned the library scene not "upside down" but "inside out". In the novel there was a fight on the surface. The way she refused him and the way he responded with anger to that was in line with the ideas of male-female sexual beaviour. But inside that very conventional drama there was another because Jane was actally tempted and excited. She described it as steering a canoe in a cataract. That was very unfeminine.
There is also the moment in the novel where he goes too far and then Jane suddenly knows excactly where she stands. She is suddenly both cool and calm. And he yelds.
Now look at this adaption! On the surface they are both behaving in a way that is not controversal at all by today's standards. There is actually good psychology in this. But beneath there is a not very sweet game going on. He is actually taking advantage on a teenager in chock. And in the end he tries to "tame" her - and loses.
Bronte in 1837? had to use the standards of her own time on the surface, but beneath she is challenging a lot of taboos. Today we have other standards and our taboos that are quite different. The passion is not the least controversal but the violence is impossible.
I have never seen a library scene that actually works. Maybe the 2996 movie did the only right thing and skipped it all out as impossible with a modern audience. Pity on an important scene though.
I really think this scene works. It contains both the passion and the violence. And still, just like in the novel Jane's return in the end becomes an act of strength and not of weakness. The separation scene is crucial for that.
Besides, I like that Jane Eyre at last is recognized as the litterary rebel she was when newly published. Less of Holy Mary and more of Pippi Longstocking ;-)
Okay, REALLY tired of all these horny comments about Rochester.....Jane would never have allowed such behavior from him. The whole point of the scene is supposed to be how she resists him and stays constant to her moral values, not how he almost seduces her. Jeez.
@xpoisonmuffinx I totally agree -- I think that it appeals to modern sensibilities but it totally puts to shame the entire POINT of Jane's character: steadfastness in moral justice and principles. She doesn't even so much as allow him to draw her toward her in the novel! and I think that you could have conveyed that just fine to a modern audience, WITHOUT the steamy morally questionable making out OR the particularly melodramatic bits of dialogue.
@skippyjonjones23 hahaha hand??? i think it was another thing the one that made her get all hot and bothered... oh god just thinking about it makes me shiver!!! Rochester is so HOT... i cant understand how she managed to leave him!!! i for sure would not be able to... !
@yumeihee im pretty sure it was meant to be after she found out, cuz the first time she had these flashbacks, he said " i didnt mean to decieve you..." so thts what im guessin anyways and than right after their steamy kissin scene she told him shed talk to him in the morning, but she ran away!
In the book he was all for her being his mistress but Jane knew that could never make her happy....I admire her a lot and believe she did the right thing!...still my heart breaks
@lavendertwilight08 haha i know right! i noticed that too (cause i find hands oh so sexy...) oh well, we must allow Rochester some minimal amount of imperfection i guess
St. John is a fool. You can't throw away love where you find it, and with Rosamund's money he would be able to do far more good than being a missionary. His own narrow idea of religion is blinding him to the good he could do otherwise.
@Gilari he just wants to be seen as suffering and being a great man that is giving up everything for his love of God. Vanity and pride just in a religious cloak.
"I wouldn't tempt you into a life of sin, Jane," says Rochester while holding her to a bed after kissing her over and over... you're doing this whole "not tempting into a life of sin" wrong, Rochester, you're doing it oh so wrong and yet oh so right :p
I hope people realize that this is a mental encounter rather than a physical encounter. Yes I know its still wrong. But for them this is the only way they can touch.
Through their minds they have melded almost so comletely that the ache IS
physical. I only speak this, because I know how it feels. To reach out to someone
mentally. However, intimate they are, this is their universe.
actually i don't think its a mental encounter, i think its a flashback to right before she leaves, because it then goes into how she got lost and ended up sick.
@TheFloatingBox NO it is not sad, its a perfectly sane thing to do (seeing as i'm rewinding all the Rochester parts at LEAST 3 times while trying to stifle sighs so my new housemates don't get the wrong impression about me..if you get my drift) God Rochester has to be my biggest on screen crush of all time, i wanna shove jane off the bed and take her place...
@utternutter91 I know exactly what you mean :-) and though I know it wouldn't be "proper" and all that, but how the hell did she manage to walk away from him?! :-D all he'd have to do with me would be to just look at me with those expressive eyes and say: Don't go... and I'd melt :-)
I really love this story. Charlotte Bronte really knew how to deal with the theme of people being tempted to give up their lives, identities, and ambitions for love, but who maintain their sense of self. It's really very intelligent, but still full of passion.
wait...can someone pleaseeee tell me if the scene between mr.rochester and jane here really did happen or if it just was a dream...a hallucination between them .
because in the book she doesn't see him again until after he goes blind right????
is this an added scene? & if it is in the movie is it just a dream???
@xysgirl94 no - that didn't happen in the book. but its nice the film producers added a little bit more romance to it. its far too clean for this generation.. they needed to add more kissing... which is nice :D
The one argument Jane should have made is that if God gave Singin and the young girl love and there are no impediments then why shouldn't they be together. Love will work things out. The love between J and R is a cheat. Still love but wrong because of circustance. I can see Singin's side but he doesn't know how the dynamics of their relationship will change once they are married. I suppose it is a gamble but then any marriage is.
@therubysinger i'm sorry but the events in the book is hotter, without the drooling all over Jane's face. I read that scene over and over again.. so much more intimate and hotter than this.
this part alwas gets to me, every time i watch it, everytime i read it. but i'm also kinda cheering for her. she made such a hard step, i dont know if i could have done it. but it was the right thing to do. there is no honor in being the other woman. and she would have ended up resenting it and him.
Oh my lord!!! That's GATSBY!!! I so did not see that at all!!!
Winterkit92 16 hours ago
Oh my lord, that kiss just makes me melt. I could watch that over and over.
rossikeeley 1 week ago
Noooooo!!! Is Toby Stephens truly maggie smith's son??
loislovebeauty 1 week ago
The great Dame Maggie Smiths son is so HOT!
crawfordfanatic 3 weeks ago 3
i wish someone will write a book about love story between St John and Miss Oliver. it will be a tragedy but i will read it anyway
DangVuVN 1 month ago 3
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DangVuVN 1 month ago
have you ever been in love with a book or a movie? I have !
DangVuVN 1 month ago 7
I love the look Jane has on her face when she calls for Mr. Rivers. It's like "Fool! Can you not see she loves you!? Now I have to talk some sense into you!"
pureshadowwolf 2 months ago 8
"We'll talk in the morning."
So much for honesty...
rhedrich3 2 months ago 5
How on earth did she resist him??
angXeliXque 3 months ago 8
I find it admirable for Rochester to find equal restraint in that situation. He does speak unfair nonsense about them living together as brother and sister. But his Byronic character is passionate and slightly aggressive. I think one of my fav. lines in the 2011 version is "But whatever I do with this cage, I cannot get at you, and it is your soul that I want. Why can't you come of your own free will?" it shows how far he might've gone physically if he didn't have that restraint & love for her.
CerebralCreation 3 months ago 11
It's so funny how whenever people watch these period drams they start speaking in the same fashion, i mean way :) I studided this for my Alevel .. It must be me in the year 2011 but despite him having a wife, which was as far as everyone could see it a mistake and a tragic story, he tries hard to make a life with Jane , mentioning villas, other houses, secret lives. If I loved a man so greatly and was not worried about my standing in society I would try to come to some arrangement :)
portalout 3 months ago 5
7:38 "I wouldn't do that" - oh yes you bloody would! :P
BubbleyBeck 3 months ago
@MsSilentia Thanks for your helpful comments and explanations. Never quite looked at it in this way. I've only seen the 1997, 2006, and 2011 versions. Trying to watch everyone that was made...have you? Which is your favorite?
P.S you have a nice way of wording things:)
ThiiNatawii 3 months ago
@ThiiNatawii
Thanks for kind words =)
I have also seen the 1996, 1983, 1973 and 1970 versions (yes, i admit it is somewhat nerdy ;))
They are all up on YouTube.
There is also one complete from 1934 (I think) that is so terribly bad that it is quite amusing...
2006 is actually my favourite, mostly beause it is so well acted in almost every scene. I cannot imagine anything more convincing than Stephen's Rochester getting a real emotional chock at Jane's return in the end.
MsSilentia 3 months ago
But 1983 is closer in detail and dialogue and has the advantage that you would get the novel right even if you had never heard about it. All the others take a lot of liberties with the story. And the child actors at Loowood in 1983 are marvellous. They alone make it worth watching. Otherwise it felt too stiff and shallow for me.
1996 has an interesting angle. It is shortened almost behind the recognisable but is still keen on two themes in the novel that are daring even today.
MsSilentia 3 months ago
I would say Watch them all. I hated the 1997 since it turned Jane into Rochester's victim instead of his soul-mate and I did not really understand the 1970. It felt somewhat kinky. But jane Eyre is a complicated novel with many options in it. Why not just see how others have interpreted it. Maybe you will be provoked by some but that is part of the fun =)
MsSilentia 3 months ago
@MsSilentia
Just one thing and then I will shut up for a while. 1983 Rochester was fun, looking at Jane like the wolf must have been looking at the Little Red Hood. When they visited Bertha after the failed wedding I felt they ought to have checked the remain of the attic as well...
And when I later happened to see Timothy Dalton as James Bond I was almost dying ;-)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
@ThiiNatawii
I think I must also say that I too was very impressed by the separation scene in 2011. That was in a way even more daring than this. I have not seen any other separation scene that really gets as close to the intentions in the novel. This one (2006) takes a creative hold of the story and manages to combine the desire, the fight and the despair from the original in a comprehensible way but it avoids the violence. 2011's separation scene really made my back-hair rise.
MsSilentia 3 months ago
Jane would have gone back even if his circumstances hadn't changed since she left before. It was her concern for him which brought her back. Am I wrong in my thinking this?
ThiiNatawii 3 months ago
@ThiiNatawii
I think this is the greatest common missunderstanding about Jane Eyre. She leaves him when she finds out he is married because she thinks he will just drag her down to his own deprived lifestyle, and in the end hate her, like he hates the memory of his earlier mistresses. She hates herself for deserting him.
In the end she changes her mind. It is very obvious if you read her thoughts on her way back to Thornfield. (To be continued)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
@MsSilentia
At the inn near Thornfield she admits to herself that she has no business with a married man. Still she goes on with not very clear motives. (I think them clear enough but then I am not a Victorian governess...)
The last moment before she actually sees the house she finally admits to herself that she will probably run to him if she finds him:
"And if I did—what then? God bless him! What then? Who would be hurt by my once more tasting the life his glance can give me?"
(tbc)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
@MsSilentia
Then the descensy (and probably the publishibillity) is saved by her finding out about the burned house and Berthas' death.
the point that many readers miss is that she finds out that after admitting to herself that she intends to see him. Brontë wrote a very provocative and freespoken novel and balanced throu the whole book at the edge of what would be acceptable. Successfully running away with a married man would never work in Victorian litterature but she went very close. (tbc)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
@MsSilentia
Some have tried to interprete it as her planning to live as his friend, in a mere platonic relation, maybe waiting for Bertha to die. (That is a good Christian stand-point, don't you think ;-)) But there is nothing at all in the novel to support that. The novel is actually very daring, full of erothic symbols and intimations. Many readers do not get that since we are used to plainer ways of expressing those things today.
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
I think you miss-interpret her hearing his voice. She had been concerned for him ever since she ran away from Thornfield. When she had no reports about him she was sure he was "going down" [my expression] somewere at the continent.
The moment when she is about to accept StJohn she hears the voice.
Her reflection is:
"it is the work of nature. She was roused, and did—no miracle—but her best.”
MsSilentia 3 months ago
To me it seems very clear that nature says her place is with Rochester.
At Thornfield she finds the fire "was not of late occurrence. Winter snows [...-] amidst the drenched piles of rubbish, spring had cherished vegetation: grass and weed grew here and there between the stones and fallen rafters."
So why should Rochester call out to her at just that moment? He responds to her distress and calls for her - not the opposite.
MsSilentia 3 months ago
@MsSilentia. Yes... But I was focusing on how people are drawn to this version more because in this scene it is very sexual. In the other version (2011) there isn't a scene such as this, it was cleaner and I respect that much more.
As to Jane going back to him thinking him still a married man, do you think she was going back be his lover? I always thought that she sensed something in his voice without fully knowing what exactly but that something happened to him and she went out of concern. J
ThiiNatawii 3 months ago
It was difficult to figure out why so many are hooked on this version of Jane E.( I'm not saying this is the only reason) This sexual tension scene explains it all. We live in a world where billions throw their morals out the window for a handsome face, I guess to many lying on a bed with a married man, kissing, caressing isn't a big deal. Stick to the 2011 version where that Jane "must respect herself"
ThiiNatawii 3 months ago
@ThiiNatawii
Still she goes back in the end to what she believes is a married man ;-)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
why do i find myself watching this over and over again? <3
hoiningt 4 months ago
Sausage knuckles and pointy tips. Not to be trusted.
bonmom 4 months ago
He has very ugly hands. Distracting.
bonmom 4 months ago
9:00 you just leave a young woman out in the middle of no where?
norringtonjacklynn 4 months ago
"Sorry, you must be 18 or older to watch"
Me: WHAT THE HELL?!
*creates backup account*
Me: *eye twitch* 5:27... talk about jumping the shark...
123myusernamesucks 4 months ago 4
Mr. Rivers and Jane study language and read all different kinds of books, they laugh and joke with his sisters. They all become best friends. Jane grows and learns and becomes a better woman, how sad they left this part out. I'm still hoping they didn't leave out the family connection part.
ovcas25 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Goldenivy17
@RosyJuneDoll Yes : )
saralaao 4 months ago
Mr.r : come and live with me jane . we will live like brother and sister !! ooh be real after all that love and kissing !! woow it will be hard to be true !! hehehe !! i would never imagine Mr.Ro as my brother with all that hot look !! uuuh ! it will be damn hard too live with and never got in bed with !! uuh !!
DyalaJackson 4 months ago
It broke my heart a little when she left him in the book, to "see" such a man weeping is too much...plus st john majorly irritates me stupid manipulative cranky pants
agglebag 5 months ago 3
I like the red carriage.
ilovepast 5 months ago
From 7:00 to 7:20, there is a perfect curl just dancing between Rochester and Jane, I couldn't help noticing it, this 30th time of watching this.
TheSunsetFlower 6 months ago
I'd be like "Screw sin - let's pack!!!"
fibotron85 6 months ago 5
I had so many things to do today, and now I am stuck watching this. lol I love this movie, book story, can't believe haven't watched this version before.
dinamo08 6 months ago 3
What would you not give for another human to love you so completely?
warriorfightsforcake 6 months ago 54
This scene is waaaay more hotter than the previous one....the part where she says she has to leave, and he cuts her off....FIRE!!!!!
1348577 6 months ago 4
I WANT TO BE JANE!!!!!!!!
1348577 6 months ago 3
@1348577 Honey watching this scene I AM JANE!!!
carmenjones411 5 months ago
To those who don't like the kissing and neck caressing scenes.... What is wrong with you!!!!
buffygirl2001 6 months ago 8
@buffygirl2001 i agree!!! SOme people have no imagination!!!! IT WAS SO FUCKING HOT!!!!!
1348577 6 months ago
Has anyone else been skipping over the... Questionable scenes? I admit that I admire the romance between Jane and Mr. Rochester (and the actors), however do we REALLY need all that? Bleh!
Other than those scenes I adore this movie. I should be doing work right now but instead I am watching Jane Eyre... Nice.
vvfan1993 6 months ago
@vvfan1993 You can't mean that.....That's just so SO WRONG!!!! I for one have always wanted to see the sexual tension between jane and mr.rochester expand into something further, and lo, my life is complete...However, if u want to see the exact book to book version, try the version with timothy dalton as mr.rochester. Its pretty good...
1348577 6 months ago
Ok can someone please tell me where his hand went
rachelwrite46 6 months ago 2
@rachelwrite46 I was thinking the same thing.. he kisses her and she says "I do".. then his hand leaves her hair, slides down and he goes "Now, what do/would you say now?"... got to admit my imagination is running wild in that part :D
CerebralCreation 3 months ago 2
Ohhh those kisses....
sweetbabyblack 6 months ago
okay... now it shows her running away. yup, got it.
And oh yeah, I know jane and mr. rochester are just kissing but dang... I'm blushing... HA! ^-^ Mr. Rochester just cannot kiss innocently for the life of him it all has to be all sexed up even though they're not even freaking doing it!
chipmunkkk3 6 months ago 43
@genieeJ she is remembering what happened before she left Thornfield.
Maryslovesmovies 7 months ago
Im a bit confused... are these flashbacks/dreams she's having or is she really visiting Rochester and its reality???
genieeJ 7 months ago
@genieeJ these are flashbacks but I was confused too the first time I watched this :)
LoverofMusic470 6 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre (BBC mini-series 2006)
ahhh! it's like he's eating her alive!
ErrorsOfLily 7 months ago
how many times will ı watch this episode ı dont know...sometimes ı said to my self "look deniz it is not real you know"....
deniznafi 7 months ago
where is all the good men now? its actually making me cry how theres no good men out there :'(
sweetmango10 7 months ago 6
5:24-6:08 Toby keeps making the "HOUMPH!" noises like he's about to chomp down on her! HAHAHAHA!!
kuroniro1 7 months ago 3
men should read all these books, guys tell us what rochester tells jane, what mr. darcy tells elizabeth, and we will surrender, guys this is the way to get girls!!!!!! is so hard to understand????
ifel89 7 months ago 9
they had to like each other in some way, there is no way that passion and love can be ac ted out. especially all the heavy breathing
PinknBlonde4 7 months ago
@PinknBlonde4
Try to guess what they are learning at Theater school...
Toby Stephens is a very good actor, who brings across a strong emotional presence before the camera. But surely you do not think he is getting a real emotional shock in the end when Jane comes out of nothing and kisses him to prove she is real! That must be far more skillful acting than this!
MsSilentia 7 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre -BBC 2006 Playlist
That clock would have been a very expensive thing at that time. Rosylin gave all of those things to St John's schools because she wanted him to be happy- but she knew that he was happier sacrificing her. *chills*
VolkgartenBySquirrel 8 months ago
This is when men behaved like men. If a man would have told me what Rochester spoke to Jane, I would have melted like butter...
butterflie2484 8 months ago 4
When Jane says to rivers " Don't! You have the chance to love someone, who loves you with all her soul, not many people are that lucky. You may never find that again" That quote actually brings me to tears; Janes Passion and complete grief from losing her soul mate is clear to see in those words. Its also very true, which makes it even more heart breaking,
Lcplsexiiiking 8 months ago 7
He lisps on "fist" and it always makes me giggle a bit.
MissJamieMonster 8 months ago
The kissing scene is far from original, but i like to see Jane on the edge of loosing herself, her believes, her morality. It makes her so alive, so human.
26Uly 8 months ago
See, here's the thing, the confrontation scene from the book is written for an audience with sensibilities that are several hundred years old and a portrayed through a medium that requires the characters to act nearing melodrama proportions in order to convey the intended emotions. Come on "you treat me as if I am some toad or ape" "Oh Jane...my hope my love my life" are nice words but a tad over done. So the problem for the film is to convey his desperation to a modern audience w/o being silly
dreamersky87 8 months ago
@dreamersky87 Now the question is, what would a modern man on the edge of losing the love of his life do to keep her? Try to seduce her maybe? A desperate act (because we know that even if he managed it he still wouldn't ensure that he could keep her), but one that a modern audience can relate and not be turned off by the over done melodrama that comes with transferring the book word for word on to the screen. So though it is not in the book and Jane Eyre Loyalists around the globe are
dreamersky87 8 months ago
@dreamersky87 shuddering in horror, so me the seduction scene portrays just how much he wants her to stay, how much she wants to stay, and in the end how neither of their wishes is enough to keep them together. Which makes this film an excellent ADAPTATION of the novel
dreamersky87 8 months ago
@dreamersky87
I think it is also something else. It struck me that they had turned the library scene not "upside down" but "inside out". In the novel there was a fight on the surface. The way she refused him and the way he responded with anger to that was in line with the ideas of male-female sexual beaviour. But inside that very conventional drama there was another because Jane was actally tempted and excited. She described it as steering a canoe in a cataract. That was very unfeminine.
MsSilentia 8 months ago
There is also the moment in the novel where he goes too far and then Jane suddenly knows excactly where she stands. She is suddenly both cool and calm. And he yelds.
Now look at this adaption! On the surface they are both behaving in a way that is not controversal at all by today's standards. There is actually good psychology in this. But beneath there is a not very sweet game going on. He is actually taking advantage on a teenager in chock. And in the end he tries to "tame" her - and loses.
MsSilentia 8 months ago
Bronte in 1837? had to use the standards of her own time on the surface, but beneath she is challenging a lot of taboos. Today we have other standards and our taboos that are quite different. The passion is not the least controversal but the violence is impossible.
I have never seen a library scene that actually works. Maybe the 2996 movie did the only right thing and skipped it all out as impossible with a modern audience. Pity on an important scene though.
MsSilentia 8 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre -BBC 2006 Playlist
I really think this scene works. It contains both the passion and the violence. And still, just like in the novel Jane's return in the end becomes an act of strength and not of weakness. The separation scene is crucial for that.
Besides, I like that Jane Eyre at last is recognized as the litterary rebel she was when newly published. Less of Holy Mary and more of Pippi Longstocking ;-)
MsSilentia 8 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre -BBC 2006 Playlist 8
And I seem to have a problem with numbers [blushes]. Apologies for that! 1847 and 1996 of course ;:)
MsSilentia 6 months ago
the sound of their kissing is repulsive. I don't like how I can hear his breath echo in her mouth lolololol
he's nomming her face lmao
dusktwilight7 8 months ago 6
Okay, REALLY tired of all these horny comments about Rochester.....Jane would never have allowed such behavior from him. The whole point of the scene is supposed to be how she resists him and stays constant to her moral values, not how he almost seduces her. Jeez.
xpoisonmuffinx 8 months ago 9
@xpoisonmuffinx I totally agree -- I think that it appeals to modern sensibilities but it totally puts to shame the entire POINT of Jane's character: steadfastness in moral justice and principles. She doesn't even so much as allow him to draw her toward her in the novel! and I think that you could have conveyed that just fine to a modern audience, WITHOUT the steamy morally questionable making out OR the particularly melodramatic bits of dialogue.
oXAtlantisXo 8 months ago
that's right! shut her up w/ your lips. hahaha:)
abithaallen 8 months ago 5
woa woa woa!!!!!!!! ONE YEAR!!!! wtf.
MysitcRiver29 9 months ago 2
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"We would live as brother and sister"
Yeah, like how Caligula and Drusilla lived as brother and sister. ;)
AltoCat1 9 months ago
is it just me or does anyone wonder where mr rochester's hand went to make her get all hot and bothered?
skippyjonjones23 9 months ago 9
@skippyjonjones23 hahaha hand??? i think it was another thing the one that made her get all hot and bothered... oh god just thinking about it makes me shiver!!! Rochester is so HOT... i cant understand how she managed to leave him!!! i for sure would not be able to... !
PATRIICIA89 9 months ago
"I wouldn't touch you" while they are laying there with his arms around her haha :D
ihatenames2 9 months ago 4
in the book after she found out he was married she resisted him entirely
narjis96 9 months ago 8
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narjis96 9 months ago
Live like brother and sister? yeah right! haha
ebunny5 10 months ago 7
wait.. was that kissing scene before or after jane found out about his wife? im a little lost..
yumeihee 10 months ago
@yumeihee im pretty sure it was meant to be after she found out, cuz the first time she had these flashbacks, he said " i didnt mean to decieve you..." so thts what im guessin anyways and than right after their steamy kissin scene she told him shed talk to him in the morning, but she ran away!
Terrikins4ever 10 months ago 3
In the book he was all for her being his mistress but Jane knew that could never make her happy....I admire her a lot and believe she did the right thing!...still my heart breaks
mormonartist 10 months ago 19
jane is so freakin' cool and she doesn't even know it
pushkin138 10 months ago 11
what's with all the horny comments
enoching7 10 months ago 13
wow, that definately didn't happen in the book
levioletoiseau10 10 months ago 3
I just saw this in 1911 vision...wow! The scene after 5:10 makes it look like they are in the dark. It looks smokin'! (Just mute the annoying music).
AnnieBanana978 11 months ago
Rochester = HOT STEAMY VICTORIAN SEX ON A STICK
quiltcocoon 11 months ago 152
@quiltcocoon oh my god that comment made me literally laugh out loud :)
441rachelmarie 7 months ago
"How can you be so soft and yeilding.. Yet hold me like an iron fist?"
God that is so sexy when he says that...
33soulfullofmusic33 11 months ago 10
I love when she tells him that she must leave, he just kisses her, almost as if he couldn't even stand to hear her say that.
I want a love like thiers.
33soulfullofmusic33 11 months ago 8
LOL I pressed the 1911 button XDD wtf? LmaooooooAhhhhh XDD
kaibear123 11 months ago 2
does anyone else love the way he says "mediterranean"? i never knew it sounded so sexy..
utternutter91 11 months ago
"I must leave Thornfield, Mr. Rochester."
*commences to eat face*
Ravenlikea 11 months ago 9
5:44 - Hand disappears and breathing gets heavier. I'd honestly hyperventilate.
orangepeople 11 months ago 5
Man I love the way Jane commands St John.
Man Mr. Rochester was really noming on Jane's face. hahaha!
sleeper9 11 months ago 6
rmr that time he tried to eat her face?? lmao
RachelPitty 1 year ago 3
is his name SlimJim?....
RachelPitty 1 year ago 17
@RachelPitty It's St.John but that's the way they used to pronounce it! :)
LCMac3 11 months ago
God his hands are ugly.
lavendertwilight08 1 year ago
@lavendertwilight08 haha i know right! i noticed that too (cause i find hands oh so sexy...) oh well, we must allow Rochester some minimal amount of imperfection i guess
utternutter91 11 months ago
"My skin may burn with fever but in my heart I am a cold man!"
This line made me tremble....ahh, the sorrows of love...
vashti4ever 1 year ago 8
Dang, can Rivers get any ruder to that poor blond? Just turn your back on her, lol, sheesh!
vashti4ever 1 year ago 6
aww.. poor Rosamund.
shineyourlight55 1 year ago
LOL @lavenderblossom's comment =D
IamTHEPennyLane 1 year ago
St. John is a fool. You can't throw away love where you find it, and with Rosamund's money he would be able to do far more good than being a missionary. His own narrow idea of religion is blinding him to the good he could do otherwise.
Gilari 1 year ago 8
@Gilari he just wants to be seen as suffering and being a great man that is giving up everything for his love of God. Vanity and pride just in a religious cloak.
CVWriter08 1 year ago
Mr Rivers! May I speak with you a moment?
*hangs his head in shame*
yeah, you tell him Jane!!!!
hayveee 1 year ago 9
OMGOSH! Miss Purple Dress i cannot remember the name of is that bitch a prefect from wild child! I thought i recognised her from somewhere!
221Verona 1 year ago
Oh my god! Memory flasback! Before my primary school got the electric bell, It's was something to look up to the year 6 who rung! :D
Rawrbecca1992 1 year ago
"I wouldn't tempt you into a life of sin, Jane," says Rochester while holding her to a bed after kissing her over and over... you're doing this whole "not tempting into a life of sin" wrong, Rochester, you're doing it oh so wrong and yet oh so right :p
dreforall 1 year ago 133
@dreforall lol Yeah, right after he asks her to live secretly with him in a villa in some far away country lol Oh, you silly Mr. Rochester, you! ;P
jaifromwi 7 months ago
I hope people realize that this is a mental encounter rather than a physical encounter. Yes I know its still wrong. But for them this is the only way they can touch.
Through their minds they have melded almost so comletely that the ache IS
physical. I only speak this, because I know how it feels. To reach out to someone
mentally. However, intimate they are, this is their universe.
MothersLuv861 1 year ago 4
@MothersLuv861
actually i don't think its a mental encounter, i think its a flashback to right before she leaves, because it then goes into how she got lost and ended up sick.
ewenadams11 1 year ago 2
Oh god, is it sad that I keep rewinding the Mr. Rochester parts? Oohh, my heart's racing...
TheFloatingBox 1 year ago 6
@TheFloatingBox Nope, as I've been doing that too.XD
sadiexefronxcrawford 1 year ago
@TheFloatingBox NO it is not sad, its a perfectly sane thing to do (seeing as i'm rewinding all the Rochester parts at LEAST 3 times while trying to stifle sighs so my new housemates don't get the wrong impression about me..if you get my drift) God Rochester has to be my biggest on screen crush of all time, i wanna shove jane off the bed and take her place...
i know, i've hit countless lows..
utternutter91 1 year ago 13
@utternutter91 I know exactly what you mean :-) and though I know it wouldn't be "proper" and all that, but how the hell did she manage to walk away from him?! :-D all he'd have to do with me would be to just look at me with those expressive eyes and say: Don't go... and I'd melt :-)
Grencle 11 months ago 5
I really love this story. Charlotte Bronte really knew how to deal with the theme of people being tempted to give up their lives, identities, and ambitions for love, but who maintain their sense of self. It's really very intelligent, but still full of passion.
deadzonefan13 1 year ago 2
Jane may not be tempted into a life of sin... But I would!!!
MaggieRose1994 1 year ago 8
I love how Mr Rochester is so desperate too keep Jane. He's holding on to her so tight LOL.
MaggieRose1994 1 year ago 3
I love how Jane says to St John "Miss Oliver likes you", and St John says "Does dhe like me?" like he didn't ALREADY KNOW THAT!!!
MaggieRose1994 1 year ago 7
I watch this scene and think that Jane had such will-power because I would have lived with him and kissed him and everything =)
ImSoooSorryforU 1 year ago
@arturo92k this scene is of the night Jane left, but they are showing it in her memories as flashbacks.
xocupcake15xo 1 year ago
why is it I can't remember seeing any of this on the dvd? O well I'm just glad I'm watching it now
Rosie4evr 1 year ago
I love how he's all lying over her and kissing her, and Jane is still so formal calling him Mr Rochester ^_^
I haven't actually read the book *gasp!* so I don't know whether this is because that's how it was back then or whether it's just Jane being polite.
lippy88lizzy 1 year ago
he could tempt me into a life of sin any day
sweetruggy1 1 year ago 9
wait...can someone pleaseeee tell me if the scene between mr.rochester and jane here really did happen or if it just was a dream...a hallucination between them .
because in the book she doesn't see him again until after he goes blind right????
is this an added scene? & if it is in the movie is it just a dream???
arturo92k 1 year ago
now, hold up....did she really loose her memory?? cause she didn't do that in the book, did she?
xysgirl94 1 year ago
@xysgirl94 no - that didn't happen in the book. but its nice the film producers added a little bit more romance to it. its far too clean for this generation.. they needed to add more kissing... which is nice :D
jhuriza1 1 year ago
oh singen, stop being such a dried up raisin and marry the girl! lol
Caada2010 1 year ago
The one argument Jane should have made is that if God gave Singin and the young girl love and there are no impediments then why shouldn't they be together. Love will work things out. The love between J and R is a cheat. Still love but wrong because of circustance. I can see Singin's side but he doesn't know how the dynamics of their relationship will change once they are married. I suppose it is a gamble but then any marriage is.
Songsmirth 1 year ago
Whoaaaaa where did his hand go at 5:54?
existentusername 1 year ago 3
ive nvr read this book so im cofused... when theyre kissing is it a flashback?
13vlee 1 year ago
@13vlee That isn't in the book, so I'm really confused too hahah.
Ketch67 1 year ago
and I'm pretty sure Rochester says "play bowls".
shineyourlight55 1 year ago
St. John reminds me so much of someone!! But I can't think of who... shoot!
shineyourlight55 1 year ago
st. john reminds me of someone i know..... how selfish...he has to think about her as well... he cant just string her along.....
jane has a point.
HoneybeePearl 1 year ago
Play balls? lmao
existentusername 1 year ago
Mr. Rochester: "We would live as brother and sister"
Yeah, right...
lalailm 1 year ago 4
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lalailm 1 year ago
Oh dear Lord how badly i want to make a timetravelling right now!
antipritni 1 year ago 7
ONE YEAR LATER?!!!
fannyluna12 1 year ago 3
LOL play balls...haha funny
toxylmfao 1 year ago
@therubysinger i'm sorry but the events in the book is hotter, without the drooling all over Jane's face. I read that scene over and over again.. so much more intimate and hotter than this.
katchitifyoucan 1 year ago 5
this part alwas gets to me, every time i watch it, everytime i read it. but i'm also kinda cheering for her. she made such a hard step, i dont know if i could have done it. but it was the right thing to do. there is no honor in being the other woman. and she would have ended up resenting it and him.
babegia 1 year ago 3
...to play...balls?...
I dont even want to know what he really meant... :O
teshanovic1 1 year ago
i wouldn't mind playing balls with mr. rochester. =P
meetu1225 1 year ago 2
I almost cried when Jane left him in the novel. If I hadn't been surrounded by people, I think I would have yelled at my book XD
FioreArdente 1 year ago 9
@FioreArdente I know how ya' fee;...I actually did kinda yell at my book...my teacher looked me weird, saw and book, and said "oh."
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago 8
@FioreArdente I was crying and muttering 'Idiot!'
... whilst sitting on the bus. xD
Janneinwonderland 1 year ago 3
"does she let me" 3.01 ahaahaahaaa
gauthagg 1 year ago
" we'll live as brother and sister, we'll have separate chambers, meet in the afternoons for tea.."
wow Rochester's that desperate.
EverlastingxHope 1 year ago 13
Whaha, the way St John stands at 0:53 somehow makes me laugh xD.
EmmaWatsonStar 1 year ago 2
The comments about the kissing are hilarious. When I first saw this I thought it was so sensual and romantic, now I can't stop cracking up.
MsCerealKiller 1 year ago 4
I would gladly have you tempt me into a life of sin Mr Rochester you sexy beast.
TheDarkxRose 1 year ago 13