God. Everyone shut up about there being no grunts. This person might have made it for the people who don't like grunts that want a version with no grunts or for other reasons. People have their own opinion. Stop freakin complaining.
What would be awesome is rather than leaving it completely empty where mark's voice would have been, add something else. See if you can take some of the distortion off and put it in the background? Copy Simone's voice into the spaces? Something like that. Anyway, thanks for your work. Cheers!
I used to hate grunts until i heard epica, they make grunts work with their music, some grunts ruin the music (I am not going to mention any bands, I am talking in general (: )
But epica have something special that just makes it perfect for their songs
...I like it - now all the track needs is a killer guitar solo from Michael Romeo/ Marty Friedman between 3:12 - 4:01! ...to make it truly 'Epic'! LOL ;)
This is so fucking disgusting!!!!!!!!! You are killing the song, you cut it in a really bad way!!!! Epica is what it is because of the equilibrium between grunts and clean voices, if you dont like it, dont listen it and stop destroying the songs!!!
flaco, dejate de joder: escuchaste alguna vez Gothic Metal?? SIEMPRE hay uan voz gutural que se mezcla con la femenina, se llama CONTRASSSSTTTEEE!!!! la voz femenina es dulce y melódica, por eso la voz gutural se encarga de hacerte sentir odio y oscuridad. Se llama "voces de la bella y la bestia", entendes? si borras mi mensaje, me confirmas que no entendiste...
I think the grunts are needed for people to feel the aggression in the song. I think that the grunts are a huge part of Epica. and they are wonderful. But I guess this is a good alternative for those of you with sensitive ears and narrower minds.(not calling you narrow minded. You guys just have to learn to appreciate them) I in no way mean to offend anybody. But I await you flame replies. eeeeeeeekk
@francheska28 I agree that it looses a lot without the grunts, but I still have never been a fan. I would absolutely love to hear Mark sing with a clean voice! Does he in any songs, in any band?
@francheska28 Umm, well I'm not going to flame you, but you shouldn't call us who don't like Mark's vocals "narrow minded." That's kind of insulting. We're not being narrow minded. We have heard the grunts, and we don't like them. I actually enjoy screaming, grunting, and growling by other, far better vocalists. I just think Mark is a bad vocalist, and his voice is annoying. I respect those of you who like his voice, as you ought to respect us that don't. We all have different ears.
Everyone thinks that because I'm a girl, I should prefer the non-grunts. Well, it's interesting to hear the difference, but I like Mark's grunts - they kick ass!
If everyone loves Mark's grunts ... why do all of their released singles edit him out or tone him way down? Don't know why ... he is the distinctive beast driving force to Simone's beautiful vox ... this variation has a more symphonic feel than dark metal ... I like them both.
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wvdkoelen 10 months ago
God. Everyone shut up about there being no grunts. This person might have made it for the people who don't like grunts that want a version with no grunts or for other reasons. People have their own opinion. Stop freakin complaining.
1011awesomeness 10 months ago
@kodiak423 Can't argue with you there!
Son0fHobs 1 year ago
@kodiak423 Lol, great response. Kinda missed my point, but love the attitude. Cheers!
Son0fHobs 1 year ago
What would be awesome is rather than leaving it completely empty where mark's voice would have been, add something else. See if you can take some of the distortion off and put it in the background? Copy Simone's voice into the spaces? Something like that. Anyway, thanks for your work. Cheers!
Son0fHobs 1 year ago
I'ts weird... but's very good!
cristianevalen 1 year ago
I used to hate grunts until i heard epica, they make grunts work with their music, some grunts ruin the music (I am not going to mention any bands, I am talking in general (: )
But epica have something special that just makes it perfect for their songs
cutekitty69 1 year ago
it' s terribile!!!
the lyrics like this have no sense!
kyky1989 2 years ago
...I like it - now all the track needs is a killer guitar solo from Michael Romeo/ Marty Friedman between 3:12 - 4:01! ...to make it truly 'Epic'! LOL ;)
...I'm actually more than half serious!!! :O
OneAgeingRocker 2 years ago
i like the grunt version better. it is better when the music is layered with the choir.,The classical instruments, the opera voice, and the grunts.
Ayaalucarddevaint 2 years ago 3
This is so fucking disgusting!!!!!!!!! You are killing the song, you cut it in a really bad way!!!! Epica is what it is because of the equilibrium between grunts and clean voices, if you dont like it, dont listen it and stop destroying the songs!!!
Mafi112 2 years ago
no grunt.. no epica..
looveWTandNW 3 years ago
...your words inspire wisdom...i agree totaly
karimds 1 year ago
flaco, dejate de joder: escuchaste alguna vez Gothic Metal?? SIEMPRE hay uan voz gutural que se mezcla con la femenina, se llama CONTRASSSSTTTEEE!!!! la voz femenina es dulce y melódica, por eso la voz gutural se encarga de hacerte sentir odio y oscuridad. Se llama "voces de la bella y la bestia", entendes? si borras mi mensaje, me confirmas que no entendiste...
juanawishmaster 3 years ago
epica no es gothic metal, es metal sinfonico
Por cierto la cortadas al tema estan muy mal hechas, y veo imposible de que quiten los guturales porque mark es el lider de la banda.
beautyinferno 3 years ago 2
I hear grunts at 1:00 (A)
DarkMoor99 3 years ago
If you don't like the grunts, Don't Listen Epica
CrsTTn92 3 years ago 3
I he sounded like Draconian's lead singer I'd be for grunts.
jclint 3 years ago
I think the grunts are needed for people to feel the aggression in the song. I think that the grunts are a huge part of Epica. and they are wonderful. But I guess this is a good alternative for those of you with sensitive ears and narrower minds.(not calling you narrow minded. You guys just have to learn to appreciate them) I in no way mean to offend anybody. But I await you flame replies. eeeeeeeekk
francheska28 4 years ago 5
You're right. but cut epica songs is a crime =(
alsophocus 3 years ago 3
@francheska28 I agree that it looses a lot without the grunts, but I still have never been a fan. I would absolutely love to hear Mark sing with a clean voice! Does he in any songs, in any band?
Son0fHobs 1 year ago
@francheska28 Umm, well I'm not going to flame you, but you shouldn't call us who don't like Mark's vocals "narrow minded." That's kind of insulting. We're not being narrow minded. We have heard the grunts, and we don't like them. I actually enjoy screaming, grunting, and growling by other, far better vocalists. I just think Mark is a bad vocalist, and his voice is annoying. I respect those of you who like his voice, as you ought to respect us that don't. We all have different ears.
ShadowBender91 10 months ago
I think it's a nice alternative.
benjikahl 4 years ago 14
Everyone thinks that because I'm a girl, I should prefer the non-grunts. Well, it's interesting to hear the difference, but I like Mark's grunts - they kick ass!
MyDarkSurrender 4 years ago 3
also it would be cooler to place a clear male voice on the part for grunt^^ not delete because it destroy the song if something missing :(
yamiimax 4 years ago 4
si no quieren "grunts" ponganse a escuchar evanesence
cursedestiny 4 years ago 3
Woahwoahwoahwoahwoah.
Please put Mark back in. Haha.
This just sounds WRONG.
And it cuts like, half of the best parts out of the song.
D:
At least you didn't take out the parts where Simone sings with him.(Like in the first verse)
hotgimmicklove564 4 years ago 3
The grunts have to be in this song! This is just wrong!
BeautifulWinter 4 years ago 4
Pussies Get used to XRTEME metal
nekrolich 4 years ago
heeeeeeey. be polite
Bataran2 4 years ago
Grunts destroy mostly of Epicas songs. Although the latest album is pretty amazing.
crackwhore2007 4 years ago
Don't listen to them then if you think it ruins there songs. Becasue by taking them out you ruin the song and ruin the meaning of the song.
Epica124 4 years ago
I liked the growls on this song!
I will concede that some of their songs, especially on earlier albums, were better off without mikes growls, although
BrickSalad 4 years ago
Mark.. not Mike.. Mike's from.. dunno.. Linkin Park xD
DarkerMary 4 years ago
If everyone loves Mark's grunts ... why do all of their released singles edit him out or tone him way down? Don't know why ... he is the distinctive beast driving force to Simone's beautiful vox ... this variation has a more symphonic feel than dark metal ... I like them both.
tend2it 4 years ago
In quietus, the 4 song Silent Reverie there's a variant that takes simone away instead of Mark, the 'Grunt Version' of Quietus.
DarkerMary 4 years ago
This is bullshit! Everybody likes Marks grunts! Theyre chracteristic for epica, if u have problem with that, listen Britneyy Spears, man.
Jonage 4 years ago
if you don't like grunts,stop listen to epica. the grunts belong to epica since the first cd.
now the song has no sence and sounds terribel.
Griefshire 4 years ago