I went to the alt car expo this past weekend and shot a few videos of this car as well as took the Guided tour from the caffeinated super charged guide. One of my favorite weird things about this car is the Audio of an engine below 18 mph.
too bad they decided not to lose the gas pump symbol for the power consumption. i guess they dont want to freak people out too early! trees to chill out on the pedal? come on. nice car but some funny ideas
Yeah, can't wait to get one when I get back to the states. Hopefully they will have on over 200mpc, but I doubt it. I'll be happy with a easy to find charge station.
This thing is a piece of shit , anyone is a moron to think that this is practical , only 100 mile range, it probably wont last more than a year before something mayor gets fucked, and its the gayiest thing since the Prius, if i see a man driving this on the street i will just laugh at him.
Thousands of car accident victims were left behind by the massive government bailouts of GM and Chrysler. The $50 billion rescue of GM and the restructuring of Chrysler allowed them to "wash away legal responsibility for car-accident victims who had won damages or had pending lawsuits," OMG just found out,NO VOLT FOR ME.
The price of the Green n Cars is a SCAM!! They start at 26k to 31k. My 2009 Corolla cost 6k. Now if Gas cost $4-gal, in one year (at 12,000-miles per year) that would be $1,464. So it would take over 14 years i.e; 14 x $1,464 = $20,496,
(Plus the 6k I paid for my corolla). For a total of = $26,496. So an Electric car will TAKE 14 + Years (minis the cost of charging it) to match a Gas car like Corolla.
@robertquentincobb LOL where do you shop? I'd like to know where I can get a 2 year old car for $6000. And you're comparing the price of a 2 year old car (avg $13,000+) to a brand new one? Also you should factor in cost of oil, oil filters, air filters, and coolants, all of which EV's avoid, for the life of the car. Then there's several taxes which EV's are exempt from, and last but certainly not least, there's the pollution you're not pumping into the environment...
100 miles on electricity is awesome. But the average range you'll achieve is 70 miles. Range is no longer the issue. When you're running low on battery the Nissan Leaf will warn you. You can select from the nearest Charging Station and charge your car in just 1/2 an hour. .02 cents a mile meaning you drive the entire day for just $1.40.
i actualy cant wait until more electric cars get produced i will be considering one.
i mean u wont be paying road tax it will cost £2.50 to fully charge for 100 mile of driving. sounds good until the arsehole goverment changes prices wich i garantee will happen eventualy.
Gas is going to hit 4 dollars a gallon in the US this year again they predict.. and it's not gonna come down next year..so.. eventually one way or another people will switch to EVs..
I'm surprised he didn't make the same aerodynamics comment about the Juke's lights and giant wing mirrors. This guy is pretty sharp. He understands the reasoning behind bulbous lights. Anyway, this car IS THE NEXT PRIUS. Imagine it, earth loving people will now be able to look down on Prius drivers with disdain for their permissive stance on fossil fuel usage from the cab of their new ALL ELECTRIC car. And it's a car, not a toy like Mitsubishi is building. Perfect car for a hyper-miller as well.
Ev sucks the price of a charge in the future will go up if they are the future. Nd a brand new battery for this car is 15000 half the price of the car so I believe it's not a good investment. Nd over time it will lose it's ability to hold a charge
Just thinking about this, who would have this kind of time, and this amount of money to spend on a car? The wealthy people with much time on their hands. Another thought, the EV1 had the same range with the same charging time and how long ago was that? I believe this is a setup, a conspiracy, or just really poor marketing and engineering.
$42,500 for a car that you can only knock around town in, not your roadtrip car, might save you money if it lasts 30 years but I doubt it. The charging stations are not available in my area and the price is ridiculous for a 100 mile than 15 hour charge vehicle. I'd pay no more than $4000 for that inconvenience. Stick with the Prius, you can drive it for more than 3 hours at a time, and fuel up in less than two minutes. Time is money.
Did that ignoramus just try and say that the fast charge connector was three phase DC? Who the shit had this uneducated mother fucker review this car????
30 KWH , in California, Price about $9.00 Bucks. And that's = 100 Miles + OR $27.00 in KWH Gets your leaf ev car about 300 + MILES ! So that's Not Bad . BUT I HERE that you can BUY the CAR. BUT ONLY LEASE the BATTERIES ? ty see ya.
Thumbs up to leave this message on the top to help answer always the same following stupid question!
But electricity comes from coal no?
Answer :
The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it.
Your question is completely ignoring the fact that Electric storage and Electric transport is FAR LESS EFFICIENT THAN usage of petroleum. Electric cars are STUPID. Henry Ford was right. BIOFUELS make far more sense. the only problem is deciding what the biofuel will be made of. CORN is STUPID. It makes more sense to use organic waste.
@gisellemartins20 In a gas/diesel car you can go 500 miles on a tank, stop at a filling station (which are everywhere), fill up in 3 minutes, and go another 500 miles.
In an electric car you can go 100 miles, find a place to plug it in, spend 8 hours filling it with electricity, and then go another 100 miles.
Until our (and I mean the world's) lifestyle drastically changes (and I mean reverses) , electric cars are completely impractical.
@kjparlay and you are a moronic man that dont know anything about electric cars! In charging station you can charge your car in 30min 80% of its capacity and the new fast charger 2012 from Leaf 6.6kw will be full charged even faster. Go learn before post moronic bullshit =)
@gisellemartins20 So you can charge 80% in 30 minutes to get you another 80 miles, if you're lucky. Then go charge it.
My point was the current electric car is not a solution. It doesn't fit our lifestyle. They've got a ways to go before they are viable.
Can you address that point instead of nitpicking?
I'll enjoy my car that cost half as much, looks way better, and has more power as you stop to charge because you went 65MPH to try and keep with me on the highway for 30 seconds.
@kjparlay A moron is always a moron, have you mad a research about what you are talking or you didn't hear what I just said? the cars in 1-2 years will extend their range to 150miles and charge under 15minutes. the Leaf with charge even faster in in the next release.
Electric cars are a the future, and they are already great now, I drove the leaf and I loved it and ordered mine and of course moronic people like yourself dont give a shit about our planet, go drive your dirty pollute car moron..
@kjparlay another thing, the leaf top speed is over 100mph but computer limited to 90mph, so not 65mph as your nonsense conversation says. Go study electric cars better before you post nonsense things.
@gisellemartins20 LOL Thanks for finally saying what you wanted to all along, "You don't care about our planet, keep polluting moron!"
Or I just need a car that doesn't require a charge every 100 miles because I have a life and I travel.
Never said 65 was top speed, again thanks for missing my point. Driving 80 in that car drains power much faster. So keep up with me for 3 miles and then go "oh crap, there's not a charging station for 20 miles, gotta slow down."
@kjparlay You don't need a car that charge every 100 miles, you need a bike moronic.... stop being a useless to this planet and start doing something to thank the legacy the Earth gave to you. Go Study moron..
@gisellemartins20 Your answer to the problem of having to travel 100+ miles is get a bike? So next time I go on vacation I can't take any luggage or passengers. Sounds fun. Actually a motorbike is a great use for daily commuting, thereby replacing your precious electric cars.
For the record, I'm not against "green" cars at all. Just saying the current iteration of the electrics aren't the solution.
@gisellemartins20 coal isn't fucking clean especially mining it and cars these days produce less Co2 than before (then again global warming is proved to be false)....as a matter of fact, they take in more toxic air than they put out.... do your fucking Research man.
@MrTr0llol Global warming is proved to false? are you on drugs or what? all the well known cientists in the world are telling us we have to stop bombing up CO2 to the atmosphere, or where do you think all this CO2 is going? the poles are melting and liberating methane and without ice the sun rays are not reflected back to space, consequently the earth is becoming a hot ball!
Are you really this moronic?are you a Bush relative? or do you work for oil companies?
@gisellemartins20 this just proves woman are dumb and wtf r u doing out of the kitchen? Co2 IS NOT CAUSING climate change, but then again your probably brainwashed by al gore. 10,000 scientist have sued gore for lying that man is causing the change. It is a natural cycle. Hey if your a "smart woman" tell me how the ice melted in the past four ice ages? must have been those SUVs 10,000 years ago. Suck one.
@MrTr0llol At the ice age, the ice covered almost all US and Europe. In the entire history of the planet Earth, even after the retreated of the ice from the ice age, there were always a minimum quantity of ice in our planet, we need it to keep the planet cool! we are already in the red zone with minimum ice and pumping CO2 is helping melt the rest of ice we have, without it we will all be cooked alive on Earth! Get it now moron? before spill bullshit on internet, go study! I'm a Biologist!
@gisellemartins20 do you realize there are four ice ages and periods of warm periods with no ice between them. Get It Moron? YOUR A BIOLOGIST!!!! NOT A FUCKING CLIMATOLOGIST!!! just another woman. But hey what the fuck would you know about anything? Especially not that our current climate is actually COOLER than the averages before. I am an Environmental Engineer! :D
@MrTr0llol Bingo!! Now I know why you are a moronic man who doesn't give a fuck about the Earth, You are an Environmental Engineer, to earn your money you depend in deplete all the Earth resources, and to do it with free conscience, your dummy teachers tough you that there is no global warming!
There were always a minimum of ice, and the planet is getting hotter! But you don't worth talking anyway... I won' waste my precious time with a dumb man, this video got 93% rating agreeing with me.
@gisellemartins20 are you fucking kidding me? my fucking job is create things more efficiently with less damage to the environment.....fuck, its dumb people like you that don't no jack shit about anything and fuck up the planet more than you helping it.
My power comes from Nuclear power station. Electric is here to stay but main stream use is still several years off. 4$ + gas is coming soon. Either Al Gore or speculators (I repeat myself) will see to that.
98% of my driving is city and about 20-30 miles per day.
Many aspects to love like DC electric drive vs gas engine and no transmission.
No 1200$ converters with a slew of O2 sensors that always seem to throw check engine lights BLAH, BLAH. CV transmissions such as those in the Volt and many gas Nissans cost 3500+ to repair. Do I need to keep talking.
The millionaire oil companies will try to make this car fail, they are already doing it... but I will make sure to buy mine before! fossil energy + fossil car is 1+1 = 2 /
/ fossil energy + electric car is 1+0 = 1 / Green energy + electric car is 0+0 = 0 yes (zero) Emissions! This car is the way to go, intelligent people out there have no doubts about it! Well done Nissan, you will be in the history.
it's not zero emission though is it. you charge it through power from a power station that burns coal and oil emitting pollution into the atmosphere. so stupid. even though impressive and a step in the right direction. Also I don't understand why all these electric cars dont use the motion of the wheels to at least partially keep the battery charged giving them a longer range?
Firstly the power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,geothermal,solar.hydro,ect.
Lastly its simple to think of powering a car from the motion but the laws of physics make perpetual motion impossible.
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it.
Looks great on paper and this video, but I think many people will have "range anxiety" including myself. Those of us who live in south or western climates will be bothered by the limited range and the fact that battery performance suffers a lot in cold temperatures. This car sounds great for metros and people who never drive far, but I think a traditional hybrid, or even a Volt is better for myself.
Fantastic! I like the lines, the interface, the aerodynamics, and I even like the color. BEST OF ALL: NO FREAKING FOSSIL FUELS OR EMISSIONS! Thanks Nissan for doing what Detroit should have done 20 years ago. Bring it!
These batteries don't cost $10 at Wal Mart Bud, try about.. $1000? Probably about every 5 years. Ands also, where will you find a person to service the car? When electric cars become more adopted and cheaper to maintain. I will defiantly get one. They're like iPhones on wheels.
Very nice and I am very interested in electric cars. But I have many questions. Usually, I drive with my headlights on all the time (for safety), but with a battery, headlights will run it out quickly. So... should I drive it with no lights? Where is the heating come from to keep you warm? Headlights + heating = how many miles can it go from full charge?
Charging it isn't green. The electricity comes from power stations, and it's very unlikely it's coming from a power station using renewable energy.
The solar panel is a nice touch, but it's not going to do much, really, it isn't. It would be better if they had a separate battery for the solar panel, and that battery powered the lights and a few other low energy parts, and the bigger battery for powering the motor.
@moviesunrated, you're mis-informed. From wikipedia (with references):
Electric cars have the potential of significantly reducing city pollution by having zero tail pipe emissions.[1][2][3] Vehicle greenhouse gas savings depend on how the electricity is generated. With the current U.S. energy mix, using an electric car would result in a 30% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.[4][5][6][7]
The ONLY PRACTICAL Choice for an electric car at this time is the Chevy Volt. The Leaf though good in concept is POOR in Execution. Problems: Severely Limited Range, Excessively LONG Recharging Time and a Lack of Fast Charge Infrastructure. There are VAST Numbers of IDIOTS on the roads - reference the 42 thousand-plus deaths annually in the US. Without question - despite all of the computer-aided drive range info - Many IDIOTS will get stranded on roads all over in Dead Leafs - HUGE HAZZARD!
@YodaPala I bet your a lead foot impatient fellow like the kind that get behind me and freak going crazy b/c I wont go 10 mph over the speed limit. The more I conserve by riding bicycles and accelerating slow the more spoiled people like you waist.
@bicycless211 I drive the spped limit and Im all for saving fuel, I hate buying fuel-its expensive. You wouldnt know it but I ride a bicycle also :) Have a nice day.
Yeah waaaay too much goin on here for just sccootin' your ass down the road. Ugly, expensive ,too sophisticated. Please for the love of god why cant we just have plane-jane fuel efficent engine? Best thing goin is the TDI's The older ones, 1999 thru 2003 jettas and golfs are the best IMO. In 2004-and up they kinda went downhill, too much smog equipment choked it down. Less fuel efficient but puked out less smog.
@colleyty yes you would, but the car setnav will tell you when and where you can recharge before car dies. personally i dont think it time for those cars yet.
wat about regenetive brakes to recharge the battery while braking, and is there a safety feature so that the battery wont overcharged and explode while charging.
That solar panel should of been larger for more accuracy on collecting solar rays.
What about battery disposal? Battery replacement???????????? I hope we can work these issues out. I would love to see new technology. Just hope that it is more successful than the EV 1 car from GM. :)
@town70 Battery is warrantied for 8 years/100K miles, and is modular so total replacement for a bad module (48 modules in a battery pack) should not happen. After 8-10 years the battery is expected to have 70% capacity or so and, if you do elect to replace it, there are aftermarket energy storage applications (stationary solar + wind storage batteries) and recycling is always an option.
.
The EV1 WOULD have been successful if GM didn't decide to recall and destroy them all!
Good Ideas but a bit to premature. Can you imagine buying this car and not having anywhere to charge it until these charging stations are installed all over. Then there is the problem with the power companies. They tell you to save power, turn off lights... What kind of effect do you think it will have when thousands of these cars are being charged during your work hours and in the evening when you get home? I just don't think this is the answer just yet. Till then, you can drive a golf cart!:)
I like that solar panel touch.. Like if it's the end of the world as we know it, no gas and no global electric power, and if you survive those conditions for like 2 years you can go and drive few miles in your 2% charged electric powered leaf
100miles = a trip from THOUSAND OAKS to SAN BERNARDINO... hmmm the (THINK CITY CAR made in Norway) makes 110miles at 65mph YOUR FREE WAY SPEED LIMIT!!! sooo... these electric cars are good as local driving commuters... if you want range distance for you L.A. to SEQUOIA camping trip then a DIESEL HYBRID is what your looking for... i guess we gonna keep depending on that dirty messy OIL after all...
This is sort of where digital cameras were 10 years ago - curiosities at best. Now they're main stream. Electric is the future because it's much more efficient. With energy costs constantly going up efficient is where it's at.
I'm guessing you don't get 100 miles on the 101 stop and go 100F with the Air on at night with the head lights on? I guess you buy the car and rent the battery's, not sure how that would work? But it still looks very nice, just not enough range to count on yet.
@occ92 Don't even ask.......... lol. i drive a '99 town & country minivan, with 150k miles and completely fried piston rings. i get 8 mpg's in the city, and 12 on the highway ( no joke ). but i like what you explained about the filling prices. i'm very impressed. i wonder if we can one day increase the range. 100 miles on a full charge? it's a good start of course, as long as it doesn't end there.
Yeah, have you heard about the Tesla Roadster? All american company, and they're building a sports car that's faster than the Porsche 911 Turbo =D
Also it has a range of 250 miles (you can get more if you pay more)
The Tesla model S goes up to 300 miles. Same charging times approximately as the LEAF, but a hell of a lot more expensive, hopefully the price goes down :D
but the important question to me is, how much will it cost to charge at a station? if that 100 mile charge will cost 30-40 bucks. i might as well drive a regular petrol engine 250-350 miles, for the same 30-40 bucks. they say when you charge this car at your own home, it uses up no more than a blow dryer. imagine leaving a blow dryer on all night, 8-12 hours, 12-15 times a month. that can be pretty expensive. any opinions or ideas???
@5literimporteater In California, at night there is a special rate of 10 cents/kwh or about $2.70 for that 100 mile charge. Compare that with ~$6 of gasoline for a Prius to go 100 miles, or $10 for a average 30mpg non-hybrid sedan. California/NY prob has the highest electricity rates, but then they also have the highest gasoline prices too.
For that 30-40 bucks, that will give your LEAF about 2000 miles, or about 2+ months worth of miles. What's your cost for 2000 miles in your car?
@occ92 That price for electricity will change (and be taxed) when the need to recover road taxes has to come from something other than gasoline. Given that you are doing 100 miles of driving, which has about $2 of road taxes if you buy gasoline in a 25 mpg car, add 2 dollars to your trip in the long run, bringing the total to $4.70 if you charge at night, more if you don't.
There really is no economic or convenience argument for an EV yet, but it won't matter, there won't be a choice.
@5literimporteater From what I've heard it will be under $5. per high rate charge at a station. At home on 120v or 240V trickle charge it will cost around half that to go 62 to 100 miles, depend on how you drive, running AC or heat, lots of hills, that sort of thing. Since the average person will drive it well under a 100 miles per day, you get home. plug it in and while you sleep the smart charger kicks in and tops it off for about $.75 or $1. Cheaper then the bus.
Cars like this would be good in big cities with lots of traffic, in most cases you wont ever drive faster there then it's top speed anyway. However when you're driving allot on highways or whatever, then this car is pretty useless. And i sure hope the charging system is universal, would be stupid if every brand is going to make their own. Who wants a mess of cables at home when you have several cars?
great.. now everyone's gonna drive even slower cuz they'll be trying to "grow trees" haha... but i guess its an alright commuter car if you live in an area with slow traffic
@ruskeee I don't know what the infatuation with driving fast is. People waste gas and go above the speed limit just to shave a couple of minutes off of their commute, only to waste it at work looking on the internet. Then, they get home and waste about 4 hours of watching t.v.
@Tony01013 people also drive fast for the fun of it. fun, remember? those things you do for no purpose other than the enjoyment of doing it? nah, you dont know what fun is.
@ruskeee Yeah, fun. Why don't I go out and get sloshed and then drive 75, weaving in and out of lanes ,that seems fun. Just because it's fun doesn't mean you have the right to endanger other people on the road. If people thought about more than themselves for a change, we'd have a better world,Selfish.
@Tony01013 umm, no. drunk driving is irresponsible and dangerous. but speeding and weaving can be very entertaining, and if you know what you're doing you wont hurt anyone.
They also need to have a cooling system like the Volt. If the car isn't regulating the temperature of the batteries, it will die quicker. These battery packs will costs thousands of dollars for replacement. Its not a cell phone where a battery costs a few dollars and is disposable after a few years.
I think within 10 years there's no reason why the electric car won't be commonplace. The efficiency of the charging and holding power of these batteries will improve, and costs will be lower.
The following things need to happen for the electric car to gain real traction:
1- Offer gas stations incentives to purchase their own charging stations (which would require heavy initial fixed costs of rewiring electricity to support heavy rapid charging)
2 - Have a charging station everywhere within a 30 mile radius.
3 - Take 10 minutes to charge at a charging station for at least 30 miles
@jpusar I think building more Nuclear, Hydro, and Solar plants along with wind turbines will be a necessity in the future. California and NY get most of their electricity from Canada and US needs to build more energy sources to keep up with the increasing population, infrastructure and electronics. They need to perfect the solar energy capture of the sun to generate more electricity.
BULLSHIT!!!! Better hope you're summer day trips are within a 40 mile radius of home because with the aircon on and the music on the range WILL TUMBLE. Sun + windows = HOT CAR in 10 minutes. Three hundred mile drive to visit the folks for the holidays? Oh dear, where and how long will you be able to stop to fill it up with electricity? Oh and lets not forget the eco cost of mining and manufacturing the batteries and remote electricity generation. Oh yeah and also, the car LOOKS HIDEOUS.
Wow my family should SO get one of these. 100 miles is plenty for a week. In other words, except when the Leaf doesn't have enough juice or when we need to go on a road trip, no more trips to the gas station!
I am wondering how they can say '3 phase DC' in the same sentence? When there is 2 connectors?
110v/10~12 hrs, 220v/4~8 hours? 480v/30 minutes? Just doesn't make sense. That's what happens when a salesman is explaining things he doesn't understand.
GREEN driving? bwahahhahhahhahhahaaa
Be as green as you want I really don't care. Run the AC? That is good until the door is opened then ambient temperature takes over.
Holy crap! From 0% to 80% charge in 30 minutes? Damn battery & charging technology has improved tremendously in the last couple of years, can't wait to see what's next! :D
@jonathan1stewart, this 440v @ 80a will require a seperate 200a service for each car, this is 50 kVa per auto, an increadable amount of power. Now where does this power come from? Coal electric plants? How much will these new cars cost the electric system? 'Smart' sounds good but it's like having atomic powered spacecraft available tothe public, nice in theory but not practical in reality.
@mahammadabba We'll see, won't we. A full charge on the leaf is 24 kWh, which is about as much as a typical home uses in a day. Ideally, they'd be charging at off-peak hours, which would actually be good for the electric grid in that it would help smooth out usage. But still, 440v at 80A is not that outrageous an amount of power when compared to other industrial and commercial users. As to the source of the power, even the dirtiest coal power plant is cleaner than a gas car per energy unit.
@jonathan1stewart, how are you calculating this? a 1/2 hour charge at 480v/80a. I work for an electric utility so I know kWh, demand and usage in my sleep. Where are you coming from?
@mahammadabba These are numbers that Nissan gave me when I called leaf customer service. 877-664-2738. A home user will not be getting an 80a charger and hope to use the 100 or 200a home service. That charger is supposedly going to be at public locations only. Call them and reply with what you find out.
@jonathan1stewart, just talked to them and it's 120v/15a (18 hour recharge), 240v(higher amp recharge, don't remember the time) and the 440vDC(massive transformers required, massive cost for the utility to set up and maintain).
$32,000 with a $7500 energy rebate (just shows that they don't think they will sell on their own). I see many dollars coming into my pocket through hooking up 240v services in garages!!!!
Man, despite how un-exotic it looks, this is the most technologically advanced car on the planet. I like how Japanese always pull out, "the most advanced technology for everyone," usually those are for military use only or super expensive.
The battery will last about 5-10 years depending on usage. They don't say how much it would cost to replace the battery. If the battery itself cost thousands of dollars then you're not actually saving anything in the long run. You'd also have to consider the cost of repairing such a vehicle as not all repair shops are familiar with the battery technology. There's also the issue of inconvenience as the charging station infrastructure has yet to be mapped out so expect them to be sparse.
If I had a garage I would get this car. I wonder how much will it cost to lease one. Anyway, who drives more than 100 miles per day unless you live in the woods of Alaska. I hope the infrastructure (charging stations) develops fast, so everyone can enjoy these and other future electric cars. How long are we going to drive our 19th century technology fossil fuel cars? come on, it's 2010
14-15 hrs charge on 110 thats all I have .WOW I only have to go to work Monday Wednaesday and Fridays .Lets see thats $32000 and $7500 tax break and about $1500 savings on a gas car per year and pay for itself vs gas in about 20 years.Because I cant use the leaf while charging 3 days a week.
Almost forgot I cant charge the Leaf during the peak electric perid because we are forced to conserve electric with the smart meters.And I just switched to all CFL lamps to save electric!!!!!!..
@trek1200233 and that's why you have a 220 V charging station installed in your home and hope for a better fast-charging station infrastructure to develop
With the coming of cars like this one shown. I can clearly see the deletion of my favorite sports cars from the past. In a philosophical sense the beginning of new era and the death of another era.
@SagaraSouske have you seen the new Mercedes pure electric? sure it's not a gas engine, so it handles and behaves a lot differently, but if you're talking looks and performance....
this is a mid-range, consumer car
sports and luxury car producers are involved with the electric market as well, but aren't sacrificing dedication to quality
If they fix the range to go at least 200 miles on each charge then everyone will buy this car and if lots of ppl start buyin it will fund nissans research and we will see a much better future.thumbs up if u want a future of clean energy
@yasoofballer even if it goes up to 200 miles in a single charge, then you would demand for 300 miles. people always rise the bar. We should give the technology more time.
@yasoofballer The range of 160km is good enough for me and my GF. She has 100km back and forth to work and i have 60km .. 100km is a long drive to go to work and most people probably have 20-60km back and forth to work...
@yasoofballer so long as we're using coal to make 46% of our electricity (figure in natural gas and oil, and still more than 50% of electricity is made from fossil fuels), and battery technology still consists of lithium and lead-acid batteries, this car will not be "green".
We've got to put up more wind farms and hydroelectric plans to make this a truly clean vehicle.
Hydrogen is still more promising than electric cars. We just need more people to work on it...
@KrankieV2 Hydrogen is a very expensive fuel, and it pollutes more to create than electricity production does. You can have a "Zero Emission Bus" powered by Hydrogen, but the production of said hydrogen pollutes the air. Electric cars were available as early as 1996 from GM, the technology existed and it WORKED. On the other hand we have to invest in Hydrogen technology. Why do that if electricity is cleaner than gas and solves the problem, and the technology exists now?
@ckildegaard There is new technology out to produce Hydrogen extremely efficiently, so efficient that you get enough energy from the hydrogen that it can do more work than you can do with the same amount of electricity running a motor. Therefore it would pollute less. The problem is these so-called genius scientists don't believe it can be done and won't be bothered to look into it. Look up "Stanley Meyers" and "Raavi hydrogen cell"
The technology is here. now. If only these idiots would listen
This is the ugliest car I've ever seen !!!
stanetzz 3 months ago
Never buy this i hear the seats are made out of plastic botles
moneshmahtani 3 months ago
@moneshmahtani The people who would buy this would view that as a good thing.
deeindeein 3 months ago
I went to the alt car expo this past weekend and shot a few videos of this car as well as took the Guided tour from the caffeinated super charged guide. One of my favorite weird things about this car is the Audio of an engine below 18 mph.
jnhearne 3 months ago
too bad they decided not to lose the gas pump symbol for the power consumption. i guess they dont want to freak people out too early! trees to chill out on the pedal? come on. nice car but some funny ideas
1qforan 4 months ago
Who has money to buy a Leaf, also has to solar panel.
Leaf is 99% recyclable, Batteries will be bought by Nissan after 10 years.
Next year will have autonomy of 300 km.
projetoaerogerador 5 months ago
Yeah, can't wait to get one when I get back to the states. Hopefully they will have on over 200mpc, but I doubt it. I'll be happy with a easy to find charge station.
richardandrewsjr 6 months ago
And how much is a new battery when that shit goes bad? Ill stick with my Mustang GTs
Cook2430 7 months ago
This thing is a piece of shit , anyone is a moron to think that this is practical , only 100 mile range, it probably wont last more than a year before something mayor gets fucked, and its the gayiest thing since the Prius, if i see a man driving this on the street i will just laugh at him.
cubano1389 7 months ago
@cubano1389 I laugh at men in Hummers. Wasting lots of gas while they tell everyone they have a tiny penis.
stopmojim 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Thousands of car accident victims were left behind by the massive government bailouts of GM and Chrysler. The $50 billion rescue of GM and the restructuring of Chrysler allowed them to "wash away legal responsibility for car-accident victims who had won damages or had pending lawsuits," OMG just found out,NO VOLT FOR ME.
DBSpy1 8 months ago
the charge handle still looks like a gas pump handle
mhks68 8 months ago
Comment removed
titanrain1 8 months ago
The price of the Green n Cars is a SCAM!! They start at 26k to 31k. My 2009 Corolla cost 6k. Now if Gas cost $4-gal, in one year (at 12,000-miles per year) that would be $1,464. So it would take over 14 years i.e; 14 x $1,464 = $20,496,
(Plus the 6k I paid for my corolla). For a total of = $26,496. So an Electric car will TAKE 14 + Years (minis the cost of charging it) to match a Gas car like Corolla.
KEEP YOUR small GAS CAR!
robertquentincobb 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@robertquentincobb LOL where do you shop? I'd like to know where I can get a 2 year old car for $6000. And you're comparing the price of a 2 year old car (avg $13,000+) to a brand new one? Also you should factor in cost of oil, oil filters, air filters, and coolants, all of which EV's avoid, for the life of the car. Then there's several taxes which EV's are exempt from, and last but certainly not least, there's the pollution you're not pumping into the environment...
titanrain1 8 months ago
Comment removed
fairyheli2 9 months ago
Comment removed
fairyheli2 9 months ago
Quiet - Fast - Efficient - Relaxing - Roomy - Easy
Stylish - Futuristic - Quick Charge at dealers?
Bought it !
Love it !
Butchmedic 10 months ago 11
@Butchmedic You bought it? Does it really take 30 minutes for a fast charge? Hanging out at a "Gas Station" for 30minutes seems a bit of a drag. :/
MrOMFG 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MrOMFG i could imagine myself going to work for 8-10 hours while my car is charging in the parking lot =)
395131 9 months ago
100 miles on electricity is awesome. But the average range you'll achieve is 70 miles. Range is no longer the issue. When you're running low on battery the Nissan Leaf will warn you. You can select from the nearest Charging Station and charge your car in just 1/2 an hour. .02 cents a mile meaning you drive the entire day for just $1.40.
tnguyen318 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Quiet - Fast - Efficient - Relaxing - Roomy - Easy
Stylish - Futuristic - Quick Charge at dealers?
Bought it !
Love it !
Butchmedic 10 months ago
WANT WANT WANT! Haha. :p
Melbell411 11 months ago
The reviewer is really tall and annoying. Please hire reviewers of avg. height and less annoying. He looked jammed inside the car and uncomfortable.
MGM12 11 months ago
This is my dream car!!!
dawance88 11 months ago
i actualy cant wait until more electric cars get produced i will be considering one.
i mean u wont be paying road tax it will cost £2.50 to fully charge for 100 mile of driving. sounds good until the arsehole goverment changes prices wich i garantee will happen eventualy.
reedy111111111111111 11 months ago
Gas is going to hit 4 dollars a gallon in the US this year again they predict.. and it's not gonna come down next year..so.. eventually one way or another people will switch to EVs..
ddnguyen278 11 months ago
@ddnguyen278 That is really cheap. Here in Holland we pay €1,70 per Liter, that is a little over $9 per gallon
klokje18 9 months ago
I'm surprised he didn't make the same aerodynamics comment about the Juke's lights and giant wing mirrors. This guy is pretty sharp. He understands the reasoning behind bulbous lights. Anyway, this car IS THE NEXT PRIUS. Imagine it, earth loving people will now be able to look down on Prius drivers with disdain for their permissive stance on fossil fuel usage from the cab of their new ALL ELECTRIC car. And it's a car, not a toy like Mitsubishi is building. Perfect car for a hyper-miller as well.
JukieMcJukerson 11 months ago
too bad it doesn't look as neat as the Altima.
bigtruckseriesreview 11 months ago
Nice, but the recharging takes too LONG!! Can EV vehicles come out with swappable batteries while at the Battery/Charging station?
NightSociety 1 year ago
@NightSociety
The only way this will work is if 30 minute chargers are located at RESTARAUNTS, TITTY BARS or STARBUCKS.
bigtruckseriesreview 11 months ago
Ev sucks the price of a charge in the future will go up if they are the future. Nd a brand new battery for this car is 15000 half the price of the car so I believe it's not a good investment. Nd over time it will lose it's ability to hold a charge
pharoh170 1 year ago
Just thinking about this, who would have this kind of time, and this amount of money to spend on a car? The wealthy people with much time on their hands. Another thought, the EV1 had the same range with the same charging time and how long ago was that? I believe this is a setup, a conspiracy, or just really poor marketing and engineering.
frosted1030 1 year ago
$42,500 for a car that you can only knock around town in, not your roadtrip car, might save you money if it lasts 30 years but I doubt it. The charging stations are not available in my area and the price is ridiculous for a 100 mile than 15 hour charge vehicle. I'd pay no more than $4000 for that inconvenience. Stick with the Prius, you can drive it for more than 3 hours at a time, and fuel up in less than two minutes. Time is money.
frosted1030 1 year ago
Did that ignoramus just try and say that the fast charge connector was three phase DC? Who the shit had this uneducated mother fucker review this car????
fcguy7 1 year ago
30 KWH , in California, Price about $9.00 Bucks. And that's = 100 Miles + OR $27.00 in KWH Gets your leaf ev car about 300 + MILES ! So that's Not Bad . BUT I HERE that you can BUY the CAR. BUT ONLY LEASE the BATTERIES ? ty see ya.
irocx29 1 year ago
i cant wait to get one
alex32440 1 year ago
Thumbs up to leave this message on the top to help answer always the same following stupid question!
But electricity comes from coal no?
Answer :
The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it.
gisellemartins20 1 year ago 51
@gisellemartins20
Your question is completely ignoring the fact that Electric storage and Electric transport is FAR LESS EFFICIENT THAN usage of petroleum. Electric cars are STUPID. Henry Ford was right. BIOFUELS make far more sense. the only problem is deciding what the biofuel will be made of. CORN is STUPID. It makes more sense to use organic waste.
bigtruckseriesreview 11 months ago
@gisellemartins20 In a gas/diesel car you can go 500 miles on a tank, stop at a filling station (which are everywhere), fill up in 3 minutes, and go another 500 miles.
In an electric car you can go 100 miles, find a place to plug it in, spend 8 hours filling it with electricity, and then go another 100 miles.
Until our (and I mean the world's) lifestyle drastically changes (and I mean reverses) , electric cars are completely impractical.
Check out the Honda FCX Clarity for the future.
kjparlay 8 months ago
@kjparlay and you are a moronic man that dont know anything about electric cars! In charging station you can charge your car in 30min 80% of its capacity and the new fast charger 2012 from Leaf 6.6kw will be full charged even faster. Go learn before post moronic bullshit =)
gisellemartins20 8 months ago
@gisellemartins20 So you can charge 80% in 30 minutes to get you another 80 miles, if you're lucky. Then go charge it.
My point was the current electric car is not a solution. It doesn't fit our lifestyle. They've got a ways to go before they are viable.
Can you address that point instead of nitpicking?
I'll enjoy my car that cost half as much, looks way better, and has more power as you stop to charge because you went 65MPH to try and keep with me on the highway for 30 seconds.
kjparlay 8 months ago
@kjparlay A moron is always a moron, have you mad a research about what you are talking or you didn't hear what I just said? the cars in 1-2 years will extend their range to 150miles and charge under 15minutes. the Leaf with charge even faster in in the next release.
Electric cars are a the future, and they are already great now, I drove the leaf and I loved it and ordered mine and of course moronic people like yourself dont give a shit about our planet, go drive your dirty pollute car moron..
gisellemartins20 8 months ago
@kjparlay another thing, the leaf top speed is over 100mph but computer limited to 90mph, so not 65mph as your nonsense conversation says. Go study electric cars better before you post nonsense things.
gisellemartins20 8 months ago
@gisellemartins20 LOL Thanks for finally saying what you wanted to all along, "You don't care about our planet, keep polluting moron!"
Or I just need a car that doesn't require a charge every 100 miles because I have a life and I travel.
Never said 65 was top speed, again thanks for missing my point. Driving 80 in that car drains power much faster. So keep up with me for 3 miles and then go "oh crap, there's not a charging station for 20 miles, gotta slow down."
Happy plug-ins.
kjparlay 8 months ago
@kjparlay You don't need a car that charge every 100 miles, you need a bike moronic.... stop being a useless to this planet and start doing something to thank the legacy the Earth gave to you. Go Study moron..
gisellemartins20 8 months ago
@gisellemartins20 Your answer to the problem of having to travel 100+ miles is get a bike? So next time I go on vacation I can't take any luggage or passengers. Sounds fun. Actually a motorbike is a great use for daily commuting, thereby replacing your precious electric cars.
For the record, I'm not against "green" cars at all. Just saying the current iteration of the electrics aren't the solution.
Hydrogen looks promising to me.
kjparlay 5 months ago
@gisellemartins20 coal isn't fucking clean especially mining it and cars these days produce less Co2 than before (then again global warming is proved to be false)....as a matter of fact, they take in more toxic air than they put out.... do your fucking Research man.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@MrTr0llol Global warming is proved to false? are you on drugs or what? all the well known cientists in the world are telling us we have to stop bombing up CO2 to the atmosphere, or where do you think all this CO2 is going? the poles are melting and liberating methane and without ice the sun rays are not reflected back to space, consequently the earth is becoming a hot ball!
Are you really this moronic?are you a Bush relative? or do you work for oil companies?
Moronic man.... I'm also a girl!
gisellemartins20 7 months ago 2
@gisellemartins20 this just proves woman are dumb and wtf r u doing out of the kitchen? Co2 IS NOT CAUSING climate change, but then again your probably brainwashed by al gore. 10,000 scientist have sued gore for lying that man is causing the change. It is a natural cycle. Hey if your a "smart woman" tell me how the ice melted in the past four ice ages? must have been those SUVs 10,000 years ago. Suck one.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@MrTr0llol At the ice age, the ice covered almost all US and Europe. In the entire history of the planet Earth, even after the retreated of the ice from the ice age, there were always a minimum quantity of ice in our planet, we need it to keep the planet cool! we are already in the red zone with minimum ice and pumping CO2 is helping melt the rest of ice we have, without it we will all be cooked alive on Earth! Get it now moron? before spill bullshit on internet, go study! I'm a Biologist!
gisellemartins20 7 months ago 3
@gisellemartins20 do you realize there are four ice ages and periods of warm periods with no ice between them. Get It Moron? YOUR A BIOLOGIST!!!! NOT A FUCKING CLIMATOLOGIST!!! just another woman. But hey what the fuck would you know about anything? Especially not that our current climate is actually COOLER than the averages before. I am an Environmental Engineer! :D
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@MrTr0llol Bingo!! Now I know why you are a moronic man who doesn't give a fuck about the Earth, You are an Environmental Engineer, to earn your money you depend in deplete all the Earth resources, and to do it with free conscience, your dummy teachers tough you that there is no global warming!
There were always a minimum of ice, and the planet is getting hotter! But you don't worth talking anyway... I won' waste my precious time with a dumb man, this video got 93% rating agreeing with me.
gisellemartins20 7 months ago 2
@gisellemartins20 are you fucking kidding me? my fucking job is create things more efficiently with less damage to the environment.....fuck, its dumb people like you that don't no jack shit about anything and fuck up the planet more than you helping it.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@gisellemartins20 fucking hydrogen power will stop it prick.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@gisellemartins20 You forgot the part where the trucks have to travel hundreds of miles to take the fuel to a station.
jeffsandychelsea 4 months ago
i would love one but just out of my price range at the min
lwvok 1 year ago
Can it tow my boat?? Will autozone battery test for free?? Can I get an AWD model?
YOUFORD89 1 year ago
220v 30a chargers? I don't have 200 amp service installed for my home let alone my garage.
UnderMediKated 1 year ago
@UnderMediKated i dont even have a garage lol
rish134 1 year ago
Batteries much cheaper in 5 years
UnderMediKated 1 year ago
My power comes from Nuclear power station. Electric is here to stay but main stream use is still several years off. 4$ + gas is coming soon. Either Al Gore or speculators (I repeat myself) will see to that.
UnderMediKated 1 year ago
98% of my driving is city and about 20-30 miles per day.
Many aspects to love like DC electric drive vs gas engine and no transmission.
No 1200$ converters with a slew of O2 sensors that always seem to throw check engine lights BLAH, BLAH. CV transmissions such as those in the Volt and many gas Nissans cost 3500+ to repair. Do I need to keep talking.
Get a Volt if you do a lot of highway driving.
UnderMediKated 1 year ago
The millionaire oil companies will try to make this car fail, they are already doing it... but I will make sure to buy mine before! fossil energy + fossil car is 1+1 = 2 /
/ fossil energy + electric car is 1+0 = 1 / Green energy + electric car is 0+0 = 0 yes (zero) Emissions! This car is the way to go, intelligent people out there have no doubts about it! Well done Nissan, you will be in the history.
gisellemartins20 1 year ago
@gisellemartins20 What are you talking about fossil energy? Look up "abiotic oil." There is no oil shortage in the world and there will NEVER be one.
valereydyachuk 11 months ago
JESUS IS THE WAY TO GOD!
JesusPaid4You 1 year ago
it's not zero emission though is it. you charge it through power from a power station that burns coal and oil emitting pollution into the atmosphere. so stupid. even though impressive and a step in the right direction. Also I don't understand why all these electric cars dont use the motion of the wheels to at least partially keep the battery charged giving them a longer range?
MaddenMan888 1 year ago
@MaddenMan888
Firstly the power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,geothermal,solar.hydro,ect.
Lastly its simple to think of powering a car from the motion but the laws of physics make perpetual motion impossible.
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it.
zoticus1 1 year ago
I'm gonna buy an electric vehicle as my first NEW car.
tipofmytongue1024 1 year ago
Why didnt they design it similarly to the GTR? The GTR only has a drag co. of 0.26
Of course only in terms of exterior design, not the same heavy materials.
audiohi 1 year ago
The Leaf is a great piece of technology. Its too bad it looks like poop.
audiohi 1 year ago
Looks great on paper and this video, but I think many people will have "range anxiety" including myself. Those of us who live in south or western climates will be bothered by the limited range and the fact that battery performance suffers a lot in cold temperatures. This car sounds great for metros and people who never drive far, but I think a traditional hybrid, or even a Volt is better for myself.
jake1110 1 year ago
@jake1110 Meant to write "Those of us who DO NOT live in south or western climates!
jake1110 1 year ago
Fantastic! I like the lines, the interface, the aerodynamics, and I even like the color. BEST OF ALL: NO FREAKING FOSSIL FUELS OR EMISSIONS! Thanks Nissan for doing what Detroit should have done 20 years ago. Bring it!
johnnations 1 year ago
These batteries don't cost $10 at Wal Mart Bud, try about.. $1000? Probably about every 5 years. Ands also, where will you find a person to service the car? When electric cars become more adopted and cheaper to maintain. I will defiantly get one. They're like iPhones on wheels.
TecWithMe 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Very nice and I am very interested in electric cars. But I have many questions. Usually, I drive with my headlights on all the time (for safety), but with a battery, headlights will run it out quickly. So... should I drive it with no lights? Where is the heating come from to keep you warm? Headlights + heating = how many miles can it go from full charge?
Gamerwillz 1 year ago
Comment removed
Gamerwillz 1 year ago
PIECE OF JUNK.
Lestkn2 1 year ago
@Lestkn2 Do you work for Chrysler or an oil company?
apostasy10 1 year ago
@apostasy10 no, i work for an electric company..
Lestkn2 1 year ago
Charging it isn't green. The electricity comes from power stations, and it's very unlikely it's coming from a power station using renewable energy.
The solar panel is a nice touch, but it's not going to do much, really, it isn't. It would be better if they had a separate battery for the solar panel, and that battery powered the lights and a few other low energy parts, and the bigger battery for powering the motor.
moviesunrated 1 year ago
Comment removed
apostasy10 1 year ago
@moviesunrated, you're mis-informed. From wikipedia (with references):
Electric cars have the potential of significantly reducing city pollution by having zero tail pipe emissions.[1][2][3] Vehicle greenhouse gas savings depend on how the electricity is generated. With the current U.S. energy mix, using an electric car would result in a 30% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.[4][5][6][7]
apostasy10 1 year ago
The ONLY PRACTICAL Choice for an electric car at this time is the Chevy Volt. The Leaf though good in concept is POOR in Execution. Problems: Severely Limited Range, Excessively LONG Recharging Time and a Lack of Fast Charge Infrastructure. There are VAST Numbers of IDIOTS on the roads - reference the 42 thousand-plus deaths annually in the US. Without question - despite all of the computer-aided drive range info - Many IDIOTS will get stranded on roads all over in Dead Leafs - HUGE HAZZARD!
gfemg 1 year ago
Yea, but what they don't tell you when you buy the car is how expensive the batteries are. Every 40,000 miles for example.
bicycless211 1 year ago
get a TDI diesel, I wouldnt be caught dead in this car, I rather walk
YodaPala 1 year ago
@YodaPala I bet your a lead foot impatient fellow like the kind that get behind me and freak going crazy b/c I wont go 10 mph over the speed limit. The more I conserve by riding bicycles and accelerating slow the more spoiled people like you waist.
bicycless211 1 year ago
@bicycless211 I drive the spped limit and Im all for saving fuel, I hate buying fuel-its expensive. You wouldnt know it but I ride a bicycle also :) Have a nice day.
YodaPala 1 year ago
@YodaPala electricity will cost you more .
Lestkn2 1 year ago
@Lestkn2
Yeah waaaay too much goin on here for just sccootin' your ass down the road. Ugly, expensive ,too sophisticated. Please for the love of god why cant we just have plane-jane fuel efficent engine? Best thing goin is the TDI's The older ones, 1999 thru 2003 jettas and golfs are the best IMO. In 2004-and up they kinda went downhill, too much smog equipment choked it down. Less fuel efficient but puked out less smog.
YodaPala 1 year ago
@YodaPala Too sophisticated? I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't need to attend lectures to figure this car out.
Why can't we have plane-jane fuel efficient engines?.. Because some people would rather pay a shit load less money to drive their car I would think.
seanotube85 1 year ago
well id prefer my truck, im pretty sure this thing doesnt have all that much torque for pulling things
eciIa89 1 year ago
but i thought it had a back-up gas motor, or are you stranded if you run out of juice?
colleyty 1 year ago
@colleyty yes you would, but the car setnav will tell you when and where you can recharge before car dies. personally i dont think it time for those cars yet.
gaivoron 1 year ago
No thanks, I'll stick with diesel..
pimpninja1985 1 year ago
wow what if this baby causes an American economic boom?
LordKaisen 1 year ago
@LordKaisen that car is a dead end.
Lestkn2 1 year ago
if i want to go see my aunty and uncle even with the fast charge it take an extra hour and a half
ckeith1987 1 year ago
JESUS CHRIST! THAT CAR IS UGGGGGLY!
i'm gonna go out and buy a used pontiac
HANKHILLWBRIMLEY 1 year ago
@HANKHILLWBRIMLEY It maybe ugly but the money your not spending when gas goes back to 450 a gallon you wont care.
zack9912000 1 year ago
@HANKHILLWBRIMLEY go ahead punk, I still hate paying for gas.
eraserheads78 1 year ago
@HANKHILLWBRIMLEY
Aztek?
UnderMediKated 1 year ago
@UnderMediKated no, mabye a bonneville or a sunbird or a fiero
HANKHILLWBRIMLEY 1 year ago
wat about regenetive brakes to recharge the battery while braking, and is there a safety feature so that the battery wont overcharged and explode while charging.
That solar panel should of been larger for more accuracy on collecting solar rays.
NitroExplosion88 1 year ago
WOW A SOLAR PANELl!!
username6333 1 year ago
What about battery disposal? Battery replacement???????????? I hope we can work these issues out. I would love to see new technology. Just hope that it is more successful than the EV 1 car from GM. :)
town70 1 year ago
@town70 Battery is warrantied for 8 years/100K miles, and is modular so total replacement for a bad module (48 modules in a battery pack) should not happen. After 8-10 years the battery is expected to have 70% capacity or so and, if you do elect to replace it, there are aftermarket energy storage applications (stationary solar + wind storage batteries) and recycling is always an option.
.
The EV1 WOULD have been successful if GM didn't decide to recall and destroy them all!
Smidge204 1 year ago
Good Ideas but a bit to premature. Can you imagine buying this car and not having anywhere to charge it until these charging stations are installed all over. Then there is the problem with the power companies. They tell you to save power, turn off lights... What kind of effect do you think it will have when thousands of these cars are being charged during your work hours and in the evening when you get home? I just don't think this is the answer just yet. Till then, you can drive a golf cart!:)
town70 1 year ago
Can they get the price down to $2500? Cause that's what my 1965 beetle cost.
89239dfkdk 1 year ago
I'm looking forward to seeing more cars like these.
jeannebrookervin 1 year ago
I like that solar panel touch.. Like if it's the end of the world as we know it, no gas and no global electric power, and if you survive those conditions for like 2 years you can go and drive few miles in your 2% charged electric powered leaf
55break55 1 year ago
Hopefully this wont turn into another EV1 debachal. I would hate to see Nissan kill this one just like GM did to EV1.
MrSponge1985 1 year ago
nice...very nice.
amartinjoe 1 year ago
100miles = a trip from THOUSAND OAKS to SAN BERNARDINO... hmmm the (THINK CITY CAR made in Norway) makes 110miles at 65mph YOUR FREE WAY SPEED LIMIT!!! sooo... these electric cars are good as local driving commuters... if you want range distance for you L.A. to SEQUOIA camping trip then a DIESEL HYBRID is what your looking for... i guess we gonna keep depending on that dirty messy OIL after all...
RiKisssimo 1 year ago
It makes the Volt look like a piece.
psychocycledad 1 year ago
This is sort of where digital cameras were 10 years ago - curiosities at best. Now they're main stream. Electric is the future because it's much more efficient. With energy costs constantly going up efficient is where it's at.
Geostars 1 year ago
How much will charging it cost?.....
csuci805 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Oil companies are trying their best to stop free energy ideas from spreading to common ppl.
We need to put an end to this corruption ,start generating your own electricity now.
Visit LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints . Join the Revolution!!
despinapjr 1 year ago
I'm guessing you don't get 100 miles on the 101 stop and go 100F with the Air on at night with the head lights on? I guess you buy the car and rent the battery's, not sure how that would work? But it still looks very nice, just not enough range to count on yet.
DBSpy1 1 year ago
What if I use Air Conditioning all the time during summer time??? LOL Still 100 miles per charge??
KatiushaVN4 1 year ago
@occ92 Don't even ask.......... lol. i drive a '99 town & country minivan, with 150k miles and completely fried piston rings. i get 8 mpg's in the city, and 12 on the highway ( no joke ). but i like what you explained about the filling prices. i'm very impressed. i wonder if we can one day increase the range. 100 miles on a full charge? it's a good start of course, as long as it doesn't end there.
5literimporteater 1 year ago
@5literimporteater
Yeah, have you heard about the Tesla Roadster? All american company, and they're building a sports car that's faster than the Porsche 911 Turbo =D
Also it has a range of 250 miles (you can get more if you pay more)
The Tesla model S goes up to 300 miles. Same charging times approximately as the LEAF, but a hell of a lot more expensive, hopefully the price goes down :D
insanemagicguy 1 year ago
but the important question to me is, how much will it cost to charge at a station? if that 100 mile charge will cost 30-40 bucks. i might as well drive a regular petrol engine 250-350 miles, for the same 30-40 bucks. they say when you charge this car at your own home, it uses up no more than a blow dryer. imagine leaving a blow dryer on all night, 8-12 hours, 12-15 times a month. that can be pretty expensive. any opinions or ideas???
5literimporteater 1 year ago
@5literimporteater In California, at night there is a special rate of 10 cents/kwh or about $2.70 for that 100 mile charge. Compare that with ~$6 of gasoline for a Prius to go 100 miles, or $10 for a average 30mpg non-hybrid sedan. California/NY prob has the highest electricity rates, but then they also have the highest gasoline prices too.
For that 30-40 bucks, that will give your LEAF about 2000 miles, or about 2+ months worth of miles. What's your cost for 2000 miles in your car?
occ92 1 year ago 11
@occ92 That price for electricity will change (and be taxed) when the need to recover road taxes has to come from something other than gasoline. Given that you are doing 100 miles of driving, which has about $2 of road taxes if you buy gasoline in a 25 mpg car, add 2 dollars to your trip in the long run, bringing the total to $4.70 if you charge at night, more if you don't.
There really is no economic or convenience argument for an EV yet, but it won't matter, there won't be a choice.
daw162 1 year ago
@occ92 Mine would be about 250-275 in my 09 WRX. Gas here in OK is hovering right under $3 a gallon.
iikon69 1 year ago
@5literimporteater From what I've heard it will be under $5. per high rate charge at a station. At home on 120v or 240V trickle charge it will cost around half that to go 62 to 100 miles, depend on how you drive, running AC or heat, lots of hills, that sort of thing. Since the average person will drive it well under a 100 miles per day, you get home. plug it in and while you sleep the smart charger kicks in and tops it off for about $.75 or $1. Cheaper then the bus.
daddyorama 1 year ago
Cars like this would be good in big cities with lots of traffic, in most cases you wont ever drive faster there then it's top speed anyway. However when you're driving allot on highways or whatever, then this car is pretty useless. And i sure hope the charging system is universal, would be stupid if every brand is going to make their own. Who wants a mess of cables at home when you have several cars?
V3LOXy 1 year ago
great.. now everyone's gonna drive even slower cuz they'll be trying to "grow trees" haha... but i guess its an alright commuter car if you live in an area with slow traffic
ruskeee 1 year ago
@ruskeee They'll be trying to "grow trees"? Thats what she said?
efadaei 1 year ago
@efadaei 2:00
ruskeee 1 year ago
@ruskeee I don't know what the infatuation with driving fast is. People waste gas and go above the speed limit just to shave a couple of minutes off of their commute, only to waste it at work looking on the internet. Then, they get home and waste about 4 hours of watching t.v.
Tony01013 1 year ago
@Tony01013 people also drive fast for the fun of it. fun, remember? those things you do for no purpose other than the enjoyment of doing it? nah, you dont know what fun is.
ruskeee 1 year ago
@ruskeee Yeah, fun. Why don't I go out and get sloshed and then drive 75, weaving in and out of lanes ,that seems fun. Just because it's fun doesn't mean you have the right to endanger other people on the road. If people thought about more than themselves for a change, we'd have a better world,Selfish.
Tony01013 1 year ago
@Tony01013 umm, no. drunk driving is irresponsible and dangerous. but speeding and weaving can be very entertaining, and if you know what you're doing you wont hurt anyone.
ruskeee 1 year ago
1 tiny solar panel? The car should have had solar skin! Probably trying to cut down on cost....
madrobo 1 year ago
@madrobo that would be the best car in the world
erkprry759 1 year ago
Comment removed
MrLegion2 1 year ago
Tow truck companies are going to love this thing.
theknightlynews 1 year ago
They also need to have a cooling system like the Volt. If the car isn't regulating the temperature of the batteries, it will die quicker. These battery packs will costs thousands of dollars for replacement. Its not a cell phone where a battery costs a few dollars and is disposable after a few years.
I think within 10 years there's no reason why the electric car won't be commonplace. The efficiency of the charging and holding power of these batteries will improve, and costs will be lower.
jpusar 1 year ago
The following things need to happen for the electric car to gain real traction:
1- Offer gas stations incentives to purchase their own charging stations (which would require heavy initial fixed costs of rewiring electricity to support heavy rapid charging)
2 - Have a charging station everywhere within a 30 mile radius.
3 - Take 10 minutes to charge at a charging station for at least 30 miles
4 - Build more nuclear and hydraulic plants
5 - Have a 300 mile run time for a full charge
jpusar 1 year ago
@jpusar I think building more Nuclear, Hydro, and Solar plants along with wind turbines will be a necessity in the future. California and NY get most of their electricity from Canada and US needs to build more energy sources to keep up with the increasing population, infrastructure and electronics. They need to perfect the solar energy capture of the sun to generate more electricity.
efadaei 1 year ago
BULLSHIT!!!! Better hope you're summer day trips are within a 40 mile radius of home because with the aircon on and the music on the range WILL TUMBLE. Sun + windows = HOT CAR in 10 minutes. Three hundred mile drive to visit the folks for the holidays? Oh dear, where and how long will you be able to stop to fill it up with electricity? Oh and lets not forget the eco cost of mining and manufacturing the batteries and remote electricity generation. Oh yeah and also, the car LOOKS HIDEOUS.
Fitzee6 1 year ago
Wow my family should SO get one of these. 100 miles is plenty for a week. In other words, except when the Leaf doesn't have enough juice or when we need to go on a road trip, no more trips to the gas station!
ckildegaard 1 year ago
10 Grand solar powered house + this car = a life free of oil and eventually environment saved :)
Lukeidea 1 year ago
I am wondering how they can say '3 phase DC' in the same sentence? When there is 2 connectors?
110v/10~12 hrs, 220v/4~8 hours? 480v/30 minutes? Just doesn't make sense. That's what happens when a salesman is explaining things he doesn't understand.
GREEN driving? bwahahhahhahhahhahaaa
Be as green as you want I really don't care. Run the AC? That is good until the door is opened then ambient temperature takes over.
mahammadabba 1 year ago
Holy crap! From 0% to 80% charge in 30 minutes? Damn battery & charging technology has improved tremendously in the last couple of years, can't wait to see what's next! :D
rock3tcat 1 year ago
@rock3tcat Yeah, Nissan says that those chargers will use 440v 80 amp current, so it will pump a lot of power really quickly into the batteries.
jonathan1stewart 1 year ago
@jonathan1stewart, this 440v @ 80a will require a seperate 200a service for each car, this is 50 kVa per auto, an increadable amount of power. Now where does this power come from? Coal electric plants? How much will these new cars cost the electric system? 'Smart' sounds good but it's like having atomic powered spacecraft available tothe public, nice in theory but not practical in reality.
mahammadabba 1 year ago
@mahammadabba We'll see, won't we. A full charge on the leaf is 24 kWh, which is about as much as a typical home uses in a day. Ideally, they'd be charging at off-peak hours, which would actually be good for the electric grid in that it would help smooth out usage. But still, 440v at 80A is not that outrageous an amount of power when compared to other industrial and commercial users. As to the source of the power, even the dirtiest coal power plant is cleaner than a gas car per energy unit.
jonathan1stewart 1 year ago
@jonathan1stewart, how are you calculating this? a 1/2 hour charge at 480v/80a. I work for an electric utility so I know kWh, demand and usage in my sleep. Where are you coming from?
mahammadabba 1 year ago
@mahammadabba These are numbers that Nissan gave me when I called leaf customer service. 877-664-2738. A home user will not be getting an 80a charger and hope to use the 100 or 200a home service. That charger is supposedly going to be at public locations only. Call them and reply with what you find out.
jonathan1stewart 1 year ago
@jonathan1stewart, just talked to them and it's 120v/15a (18 hour recharge), 240v(higher amp recharge, don't remember the time) and the 440vDC(massive transformers required, massive cost for the utility to set up and maintain).
$32,000 with a $7500 energy rebate (just shows that they don't think they will sell on their own). I see many dollars coming into my pocket through hooking up 240v services in garages!!!!
mahammadabba 1 year ago
Man, despite how un-exotic it looks, this is the most technologically advanced car on the planet. I like how Japanese always pull out, "the most advanced technology for everyone," usually those are for military use only or super expensive.
bluebearbank247 1 year ago
The battery will last about 5-10 years depending on usage. They don't say how much it would cost to replace the battery. If the battery itself cost thousands of dollars then you're not actually saving anything in the long run. You'd also have to consider the cost of repairing such a vehicle as not all repair shops are familiar with the battery technology. There's also the issue of inconvenience as the charging station infrastructure has yet to be mapped out so expect them to be sparse.
notyouagain1 1 year ago
If I had a garage I would get this car. I wonder how much will it cost to lease one. Anyway, who drives more than 100 miles per day unless you live in the woods of Alaska. I hope the infrastructure (charging stations) develops fast, so everyone can enjoy these and other future electric cars. How long are we going to drive our 19th century technology fossil fuel cars? come on, it's 2010
mesofius 1 year ago
If the leaf had a battery range of 500 miles, it would be worth the 30k price tag.
davepamn 1 year ago
Gotta love the hp to torque ratios of electric drivetrains hahhahaha
dtmbcorp 1 year ago
i love the solar panel part
bonds911 1 year ago
14-15 hrs charge on 110 thats all I have .WOW I only have to go to work Monday Wednaesday and Fridays .Lets see thats $32000 and $7500 tax break and about $1500 savings on a gas car per year and pay for itself vs gas in about 20 years.Because I cant use the leaf while charging 3 days a week.
Almost forgot I cant charge the Leaf during the peak electric perid because we are forced to conserve electric with the smart meters.And I just switched to all CFL lamps to save electric!!!!!!..
trek1200233 1 year ago
@trek1200233 and that's why you have a 220 V charging station installed in your home and hope for a better fast-charging station infrastructure to develop
jennnnnie 1 year ago
With the coming of cars like this one shown. I can clearly see the deletion of my favorite sports cars from the past. In a philosophical sense the beginning of new era and the death of another era.
SagaraSouske 1 year ago
@SagaraSouske have you seen the new Mercedes pure electric? sure it's not a gas engine, so it handles and behaves a lot differently, but if you're talking looks and performance....
this is a mid-range, consumer car
sports and luxury car producers are involved with the electric market as well, but aren't sacrificing dedication to quality
jennnnnie 1 year ago
this is the futures
Elorfanatomusic 1 year ago
do you realize how many problems the car could potentially have? Being fully electric. No ones gonna know how to work on these either. Id wait
chucktaylorfan92 1 year ago
wait till someone create the first antimatter powered car lol
tydougandrene 1 year ago
If they fix the range to go at least 200 miles on each charge then everyone will buy this car and if lots of ppl start buyin it will fund nissans research and we will see a much better future.thumbs up if u want a future of clean energy
yasoofballer 1 year ago 62
@yasoofballer even if it goes up to 200 miles in a single charge, then you would demand for 300 miles. people always rise the bar. We should give the technology more time.
theartofluv 1 year ago
@yasoofballer The range of 160km is good enough for me and my GF. She has 100km back and forth to work and i have 60km .. 100km is a long drive to go to work and most people probably have 20-60km back and forth to work...
taztaz79 1 year ago
@yasoofballer so long as we're using coal to make 46% of our electricity (figure in natural gas and oil, and still more than 50% of electricity is made from fossil fuels), and battery technology still consists of lithium and lead-acid batteries, this car will not be "green".
We've got to put up more wind farms and hydroelectric plans to make this a truly clean vehicle.
Hydrogen is still more promising than electric cars. We just need more people to work on it...
KrankieV2 1 year ago
@KrankieV2 Hydrogen is a very expensive fuel, and it pollutes more to create than electricity production does. You can have a "Zero Emission Bus" powered by Hydrogen, but the production of said hydrogen pollutes the air. Electric cars were available as early as 1996 from GM, the technology existed and it WORKED. On the other hand we have to invest in Hydrogen technology. Why do that if electricity is cleaner than gas and solves the problem, and the technology exists now?
ckildegaard 1 year ago
@ckildegaard There is new technology out to produce Hydrogen extremely efficiently, so efficient that you get enough energy from the hydrogen that it can do more work than you can do with the same amount of electricity running a motor. Therefore it would pollute less. The problem is these so-called genius scientists don't believe it can be done and won't be bothered to look into it. Look up "Stanley Meyers" and "Raavi hydrogen cell"
The technology is here. now. If only these idiots would listen
KrankieV2 1 year ago