the film above has many flaws , one example hess flight to britain the narrator state the hess parachute out over England this information is WRONG ,Hess landed in SCOTLAND, this information is well documented and easy to access ! if the film can't get this well documented piece of nazi ,Hess was the depury furhur) history correct ,why should we believe all the other evidence in the film ,which is based on descrediting holocaust facts and evidence .
The Belzec maths is scietifically correct !! how can you call it a lie when the data came from jews themselves !! obviusly it is a case of DNA... when the crime was commited DNA didnt exist... but now with computer modelling one can easily look over maps and clearly deduce that it is simply not possible to stuff 600,000 bodies in 8 pits. the proof is damning for jews and one day they will teach these facts to school children globally when the world is a better place not built on these lies
it is mathmeatically impossible to dispose of 6 million bodies with the few ovens on the aleged death camps. one camp had only two ovens and it would not have been physically possible to have destroyed 500,000 bodies in 2 years it operated with 2 ovens without so much as a trace of bone fragments. do some homework and it becomes scientific fact very quickly that the holocaust was most likely a hoax to help the creation of israel much as the iraq war was a hoax to go and steal iraqs oil
Zionism is similar to Manifest Destiny, and I consider them both wrong. But the Holocaust DID happen. And how trying to debunk the numbers of the Holocaust victims and the way(s) in which they were murdered is beyond me. It happened! Some zionists use the Holocaust as propoganda, but anti-zionists (which doesn't make an anti-semite) should not even debate them on this issue. Again, the Holocaust happened; there's no denying that. Debate zionists on the issue of the Palestinian's suffering.
@RyanBrooksby you are correct hitler policy was to rid all of europe of jews. this was carried out by the industrial mass murder in the death camps but i'm sure as you will find out ,that the nazis on this post will deny that the holocaust ever happened it was all a lie made up by jews ,..
@mdmguyon thats correct dinosaur fossils , we know that dinosaurs walked the earth for millions say a 100 years but only maybe found say 5000 full skelotons ? and thats being generous thats a small number to represent all them years , sofinding few 1000 holocaust bodies does't mean that all that was murdered in the death camp most of the evidence was destroyed my the nazi millions died
On reading your comments calling others stupid and preaching (God, Jesus, Yeshua) has nowt to do with what this video is about, by all means challenge ~ debate ~ i don't think its for you to be condescending (fall to your knees::beg his forgiveness) challenge,ask,debate fine preaching take it elsewhere okay ~ repetitive preachers syndrome no thx....
When the barber was talking about benches and 160 people (at 1:02:40), I believe he was talking about when the barbers were later moved to the arrival huts (from the gas chambers).
@mdmguyon there ain't any picture or film yes there is lots ! going by your logic there ain't no film photo of dinosaurs but there is plenty of evidence that there walked the earth,
@mcgeogheganj The evidence for dinosaurs includes bones, which is not the case with the Holocaust. The only mass graves that have been found were due to Soviet massacres.
@sirrvs a fine analogy, you must never question the holocaust, just the holocaust off limits to scrutiny everything else goes; Jewish dictatorship or what?
@discoqueen1970 do some good and stop your hatred, God will judge people, you can but it is of no value. Are Christians who watch video of Jesus being nailed to the cross are they to evil?
@SonicDemonGirl Dear Demon, Jesus is the Savior of us all. He died so you may live. He died so we can all love. I hate no one, I only wish the killings and hatred would stop. By denying the holocaust is to perpetuate that hatred and allowing it to happen again in the future.
@discoqueen1970 What, but "perpetuating hatred," would motivate someone to exaggerate the Holocaust? You're getting the cart before the horse. Jesus never said to not use your mind. What do you think the word "mind" in Matthew 22:37 means?
@SonicDemonGirl Don't preach Miss Demon, God has no place for you. You need to fall on you knees before Yeshua and beg His forgiveness and everyone who died during the war.
@discoqueen1970 now just leave the typical jew mouth you must be evil and hate out of it, any other holocaust or tragedy you can look at without being accused of Anti-Semitism or accusations of any kind. Truth needs no dictators looking out for it remember much of our history often changes as time passes, must it stand still just for jews? everything is fine but don't mention the holocaust, its people like yourself who try to hold mankind back with your arrogance and righteousness
@discoqueen1970 just remember history often changes with ongoing research this is fact, if all historians had your train of thought the world according to your logic would be flat. The very nature of this is horrific without a doubt, that in no way means it can't be researched no one person or body has the right to say it mustn't ever be questioned no matter how traumatic it is. You or any historian has to step back from the horrificness and look at all evidence wit a open mind.
@discoqueen1970 you are such a idiot, going by what you say "Because if you can look at a picture or a video of people suffering, doesn't matter who they are," so does that mean historians and researches are evil ? with your logic it seems it would. And by the way historians are fore always rewriting history from new evidence and research, just has at Auschwitz they removed a original plaque saying 4 million died there, but now it has a plaque saying one and a half million died ????????????????
@SonicDemonGirl there was no typhus outbreak, the skeleton like prisoners where the last of the holocaust to survive, the nazis tried to destroy any evudence but the scale of the crime was to vast ! you have no evidence our proof the the holocaust did not happen , the distruction of on a vast scale , is well documented by various historians
Let me shift this; do you believe that the holocaust happened? Or do you believe it was a hoax by so called zionists. If it's the latter, then I shall say no more. If it's the former and you believe it happened then I stand corrected.
@discoqueen1970 What does a disagreement about history have to do with good and evil? You might be careful about what you mean by "the holocaust happened." Truth isn't so simple.
@mdmguyon Because if you can look at a picture or a video of people suffering, doesn't matter who they are, jew, arab, christian, and say it didn't happen that is evil. In your heart you say, oh that didn't happen, that's a lie; that in itself shows evil because when it happens again, and it will, you will either turn your back on it or you will be part of it. And, that is the ugly truth. Man has an evil heart and history has proven it, and we are part of it if we ignore it.
@discoqueen1970 I'd like to get back to what I wrote about being careful about what you mean by "it happened." There aren't any pictures or videos of "it."
@mdmguyon There are many pictures of the holocaust. My father in law brought back pictures he took of thousands of bodies in gruesome piles and then of bulldozers used to shove them into a pit.
@discoqueen The only immortal truth here is that hell is waiting for you for being a drama queen Jesus said so really really, i asked the man from Del Monte was the holocaust a lie and he say YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
To all you have and will have replied to me. I will not waste my time debating you. It is a useless endeavor and I don't have time for useless human beings. So, you can keep asking, I won't reply. I don't reply anyway to evil. The only immortal truth here is that hell is waiting for you all, Jesus said so.
@discoqueen1970 wow, the ultimate Ad Hominem is seen in this ladies post! "Won't reply to evil"-define what is evil? You mean the people who question the holocaust is evil? Circular reasoning as well. If you refuse to debate, but only use tactics, then I cannot wait til you are blocked!
@discoqueen1970 If I had to choose between skeptically seeking truth and blindly accepting what I've been told since childhood as truth, I'd pick the latter as evil.
@mdmguyon what about all them starved to death bodies , how do you account for them, typhus which appears to only a problem for the prisoners ,no outbreak in the gaurd barracks?
@mcgeogheganj Maybe you have refused to read articles on codoh that deals with this? After all, Mengele himself noted that they needed to work on getting the sick back to good health because it affects their soldiers as well, but only a believer would over look that.
German soldiers did in fact drink and carouse. What else could they do when they had to face such horrors. Wouldn't you want to get drunk! I would wish for a shot of heroin. This is a horrible video. and a big huge LIE
@discoqueen1970 Explain what on this video is a lie? Eichmann was telling the truth that dead people can still have their blood shoot out of the ground like a geyser when their hearts are not beating? Explain please....
@Sockpuppet2012 I curse because you do. You get what you give, it's that simple. I have never in my heart wanted to get this angry at any one person. Anger leads nowhere. But, when I read stuff like this I am truly incited to anger, now I know how God truly feels about man and his heart. Hatred is prevalent on this earth and it will never go away if people continue to encourage it.
@discoqueen1970 Please, tell us, how does saying, "I don't think the event took place in this way" 'encourage hate'? If a cop tells a murder suspect, "Based on the evidence, I don't believe you committed this murder," does that constitute 'encouraging hatred' towards the victim?
@mdmguyon who is david irving ? every bit of evidence films photo eye witinesses, all this is to be ignored ,maybe ww2 never happened ? were after this fictional war did all the jews never mind themthey don't matter , 50 million people just disappeared were did they go ,or is this a fictional number too, i thought all nazis ,like yourself ,would be proud and delighted of getting rid off 6million ? jews
@mcgeogheganj What photos are you referring to? There aren't any of anyone who was gassed in a gas chamber. No one who had been gassed would have looked like they had starved to death, as those photos show.
@mcgeogheganj On the Web site of P. B. S., at pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-confessions/..., is a video, called "Confessions," about Danial Williams, who confessed to a crime that he didn't commit. At 11 minutes and 3 seconds into the video, his attorney, Don Salzman, said "The problem was that the confession that Danial gave was completely inconsistent with the facts of the crime." After watching the video, is it your impression that this was an isolated case?
@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
@mdmguyon why wuold you denial the holocaust, the nazis deed have a policy the final solution , murdered 6 million gypses,jews , political prisoners , metally ill patients ,this is all well documented and there is evidence from the nazis too ,so why deny
@mcgeogheganj According to David Irving, "any historian can now confirm that nowhere in all the archives of the world has yet been found one wartime document referring to a Führer's order to destroy the Jews, or for that matter, one wartime document referring to gas chambers or gassings." Dead bodies or ashes of millions of Jews haven't been found. Demographic analysis doesn't clarify anything about the numbers involved. Witness statements are unreliable and confessions were acquired by torture.
@mdmguyon i hope it happens to you and your loved one. you don't mind me saying that since you say it never happened. unfortunately there are more books on holocaust study then any other single topic. you are one stupid prick.
this guy is debating and is having an arguement with himself ! many. accounts with tha same style of comments , hitlers biological grandfather was jewish , his grandmother work as a cook/ servant , she had a child to the jewish family son 19 year old leopol frankbergen .
The jews are so arrogant that they never thought their lies would be scrutinized. Once folks started revealing their lies,they created laws to punish anyone for exposing them.
@jossgower Whats funny about that statement is that in Nazi Germany there was ZERO Free Speech and saying things against the Nazis would result in imprisonment or death.
If there is anyone here that can show who Alois Schicklgruber's father was I would be interested in hearing from you. Alois Schicklgruber was Hitlers father, who for unknown reason changed his surname to "Hitler". Thanks.
Salomon Mayer von Rothschild is has been said is another possible father to Hitlers bastard father Alois Schicklgruber.
"Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived her son. At that time, she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Salomon Mayer von Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy, she was sent back to her home in Spital where Hitler was born" What a mystery.
To anyone & everyone who wishes to post "comment" here i will not censor anybody at all whether you are PRO this video or AGAINST,,, but i will not hesitate to BLOCK SHILL accounts like all those over the past few days, Plus to the childish few who want to come on here and call names as the case recently, believe me it don't matter what you think of me or call me that's fine ~ but i will NOT HESITATE to BLOCK YOU and same goes for the ones who call for this documentary to be FLAGGED!!!!!!! END
@OrnamentalCrime ~ bess1953 is not blocked from here, certainly not from me ~ if she can't comment here then she will have to take it up with Youtube ~ if she is blocked maybe and i say "maybe" it is due to the possibility of her being responsible for all the shill accounts thee other day, its not hard for Google-tube to see the IP addresses of accounts. ?????? ~ tell her to try post or if its you try post, nothing else i can say.
@EdwardTheGray historians have discussed the candidates as Alois schicklgruber biological father johann georg hiedler , johann nepomuk Huttler and a jew named leopold frankenberger ,why can't you do some simple research on Hess, the guy said England thats a error , i wouldn't say canada ,and really mean america two differant counties , the same a Scotland and England ? the whole film is based on contradicting evidence
@mcgeogheganj Wow, the error on his part between England and Scotland somehow contradicts the whole video? lame -_- And yet they have still not provided anything that proves that his blood line is part Jewish? On another note, who is Jewish? By biological or Religion?
@OrnamentalCrime three relatives appeared with him as witnesses ,one of whom was johann nepomuk Hiedlers son in law . the priest agreed to amend the records , the civil authorities automatically processed the churchs decision and Alois Schicklgruber had a new name ,it is not know who decided on the spelling of Hitler instead of Hiedler , Alois openly admitted having been born out of wedlock before and after the name change
@mcgeogheganj ht tp://w ww.nytimes.c o m /1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.ht ml If only you guys did some simple research :) Oh and The guy did mean Scotland but made a mistake on narration, but I guess mistakes ruin the whole thing right?
@OrnamentalCrime as a rising young junior customs official ,he used his birthname Schicklgruber ,but in mid -1876 39years old and establised in his career ,he asked permission to use his stepfathers family name .he appeared before the parish priest in dollersheim and asserted his father was johann georg hiedler who had married his mother now wished to legitimize him
@EdwardTheGray your film has many errors untruths Rudolf Hess did not parachute out over England as the narrator states ,this act by Hess is well documented, and your film got this fact WRONG ! so why should we the viewer take your film and evidence seriouse if you can't get right , Hess landed in Scotland on the estate of the 14th duke of hamilton ,
If there is anyone here that can show who Alois Schicklgruber's father was I would be interested in hearing from you. Alois Schicklgruber was Hitlers father as far as is known who for unknown reason changed his surname to "Hitler". Thanks.
what a grand deception on mankind Mr Hitler a Jew who gave you what you want a chosen land for chosen people. who chose jew to be chosen people? no to the holocaust just one big hoax of lies why? they do thisd?
@RevealurselfnoW Hitler was NOT a Jew! Conspiracies about him just pisses me off! Why in the hell would they support someone who put them all in prison to stop their parasitic ways? Please stop spreading it around that he is Jewish!
@OrnamentalCrime OK, lets hear it, what is your thesis as to why Hitler was Jewish? And did I say that I was not anti Semitic? Does that change anything?
@OrnamentalCrime I answered your question, just go and look for it. Again, I never stated that I was or was not anti Semitic, and even IF I was, that would not change a thing.
@EdwardTheGray Well I did a brief scan of your comments Edward and I would have to judge you decidedly Anti Semitic. As to answering my questions you did not.
"why would it matter so much to those who claim they are not ant Semitic and merely wish to debate the Holocaust?"
Why is it so abhorrent to imagine Hitler was partly Jewish? It is certainly possible.
@OrnamentalCrime Jews were driven out of Graz in the 15th century and were not allowed to return until 1856, twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born, which means that no Jewish family called Frankenberger. No historian believes that, not even pro holocaust sites believe it!
@OrnamentalCrime I answered your question, and you are ignoring that fact! Jews were driven out of Graz in the 15th century, and they did not return until 1856, 20 years after Hitlers grandfather was born. Can you present credible DNA results that PROVES that he is part Jewish? And no, you are starting to hint at Ad Hominems, as you seem to think that Anti Semitic people just do not have credibility because of that fact.
@EdwardTheGray I never said you lacked credibility because you are Anti Semitic. It does make you biased obviously. Which makes it hard to take you seriously when you state opinions as facts. The Jews have been mixed throughout all the races of Europe for over a thousand years. You surmise Hitler could not be Jewish because of a law against Jews living there? If only the flux of human interactions was so black & white. DNA has proven such assumption to be lies.
@OrnamentalCrime OK, then why would you defend said lie if the DNA proved said assumptions a lie? And being biased does not make one wrong. Loads of people are Biased, like the majority of holocaust believers. It is a fact of life, people will always be biased towards something. I never surmised that Hitler could not be Jewish because of laws, I am stating that because Jews are racially pure back then, and were driven out, that it is unlikely that he was.
@EdwardTheGray I think the very idea of "racially pure" has been fairly discounted by science, more now a cultural crutch for those seeking meaning in race but in reality its just appearance. Your answer 'that it is unlikely that he was' is proof of nothing.
You being biased does not make you "wrong" and does not make you right. It does however make me skeptical. Hitler was well acquainted with the power of propaganda and much of his story is muddled with it. .
@OrnamentalCrime Yet again, I ask you, were is your credible sources of DNA that he was part Jewish? If he is easy to show as being Jewish, then it would not be hard to produce the results, no? I am going to bed, that should give you some time to produce those results.
@EdwardTheGray I clearly never stated he WAS Jewish, it was you who claimed he WASN'T. I only asked for substantial proof of which you gave none worthy.
@OrnamentalCrime There are plenty of sites out there from the pro holocaust side that provide points that he was not Jewish, however it was anti Hitler persons that came up with the canard that he was Jewish, and they never provided DNA proof that he was. By saying that I need to provide proof that he is NOT Jewish is like saying that I need to prove that I never murdered anyone. With that logic, I can say that Elie Wiesel is a child molester. Can you provide proof that he is not?
@OrnamentalCrime The saying "Innocent until proven guilty" applies to everyday life as well. They made the claim that he was part Jewish, yet they provided no proof that he was at all. By telling me that I must provide proof that he is not is the same as saying that I am guilty of murder. Now if you provide some DNA proof that he was, then yes, I would need to provide some counter claim, yet there has never been any evidence submitted on their part, so the point still remains, he is not Jewish.
@EdwardTheGray I wouldn't go so far as to definitely say that Hitler wasn't 1/4 Jewish just because it hasn't been proved that he was. "Innocent until proven guilty" is only a legal safeguard. As O. J. Simpson proved, that doesn't mean that an accused who is found not guilty didn't do it. It's simple logic that if something can't be proven false, it is therefore possible. That Hitler was 1/4 Jewish needs proof. That he might have been only needs the lack of proof that he wasn't.
@EdwardTheGray Elie Wiesel being a child molester is far less likely than Hitler being Gay or Jewish. Both of which seem far more likely to the unbiased among us.
@OrnamentalCrime "Elie Wiesel being a child molester is far less likely than Hitler being Gay"-Provide details as to why you think that he is not a child molester? Using your logic, they are guilty until proven innocent right? Prove that he is not what I claim.
@EdwardTheGray Are purposely getting of subject? I asked you for proof of your earlier claim to another post about Hitler being Jewish. You stated that "Hitler WAS NOT JEWISH!"
I would be hesitant to claim that as fact when it is only your belief.
@OrnamentalCrime I am not jumping off subject, I am perfectly within the realms of the subject! Again, using the same law "innocent until proven guilty" applies to everything else. It has never been proven that he was in fact part Jewish. Again, you seem to forget that part. Has it been PROVEN that he was in fact Jewish? Again, using your logic, prove to me that Elie wiesel never molested a child? You want to defend your logic, yet fight against it?
@EdwardTheGray I never made the claim in the positive or negative about your statement about Wiesel, it seemed a deliberate distraction on your part. I only asked for you to back up YOUR CLAIM that "HITLER WAS NOT JEWISH!"
Without knowing who Alois Schicklgruber (Hitlers father) was it seems your claim is without value.
@OrnamentalCrime You still do not see the undertone to anything that I have said! It is an example that I am giving you about Elie Wiesel. With your logic, I can say that he is, and I am asking you to provide proof that he is not. The same is what happened with your side, they made the claim that he was Jewish, provided no evidence, and I am asking you to prove that he is not one. Again, I am using the same logic that you use. Or how about this, can you show proof that you are not one?
@EdwardTheGray I have never heard anyone but you make such a claim about Wiesel. It seems childish ala"na na na you're one too" hardly relevant since I never claimed Hitler was Jewish or not, let alone a child molester.
@OrnamentalCrime omg, I cannot believe I am having a debate with you on this! Did you fail to read that undertone of my message to you? That was an example, IE showing you that anyone can make claims with your logic and then ask someone to provide proof that it is not true. In this day and age, you have to show proof of something, it was claimed that he was Jewish, has never been proven, and you ask me to show proof that he is not. And do you even know what an Ad Hominem is?
@OrnamentalCrime Yes, I chose the wrong word, I should have said Red Herring, but that is because I am tired right now. You try working for 19 hours straight!
@OrnamentalCrime Again, you defended it and asked me to provide proof of something that was never proven by your side to begin with, that is the same as telling me that I am a murder and that I need to show proof that I am not. In essence "guilty until proven innocent" is your logic. I have not seen any evidence that he was, yet you are asking me to provide a counter claim to something that was never proven to begin with!
@OrnamentalCrime wow, you still have not gotten to the root to anything that I have told you, and you decide to start singling out parts of my grammar? Turning to Ad Hominems now? Last time before I go to bed, "Innocent until proven guilty" :) Not Jewish because he was never proven to be Jewish in the first place! Just a fact of law and real logic.
@EdwardTheGray By that logic has Wiesel been "proven" to be Jewish? He claims he is but wheres the "proof"? Did Hitler ever claim his Grand Father was not Jewish? When he married Eva three days before he killed himself he would have to provide proof of paternal and maternal non Jewish grandparents under Nazi racial laws.
There is no mention of such a document being submitted.
@OrnamentalCrime In other words, good night. And remember, innocent until proven guilty is the standard of law, and no one has proven that he was Jewish at all. And again, provide some DNA evidence that supports that claim. Bet you cant :)
@EdwardTheGray He invaded Poland because he wanted to unite the people of Danzig with the Reich. In his speech on September 19, he said that he had done his best to resolve the issue peacefully, but according to the Wikipedia article, his lack of credibility after what he did with Czechoslovakia was a major factor in the talks breaking down, which he didn't mention in the speech.
the film above has many flaws , one example hess flight to britain the narrator state the hess parachute out over England this information is WRONG ,Hess landed in SCOTLAND, this information is well documented and easy to access ! if the film can't get this well documented piece of nazi ,Hess was the depury furhur) history correct ,why should we believe all the other evidence in the film ,which is based on descrediting holocaust facts and evidence .
mcgeogheganj 5 hours ago
@MrLukeFranks when the crime of mass murder was committed DNA did exist, the science to understand it didn't exist,DNA has always been here.
mcgeogheganj 5 hours ago
Only a retard can deny the holocaust the evidence is overwhelming and absolute!!!! The holocaust actually happen!!!
c0rtes 18 hours ago
The Belzec maths is scietifically correct !! how can you call it a lie when the data came from jews themselves !! obviusly it is a case of DNA... when the crime was commited DNA didnt exist... but now with computer modelling one can easily look over maps and clearly deduce that it is simply not possible to stuff 600,000 bodies in 8 pits. the proof is damning for jews and one day they will teach these facts to school children globally when the world is a better place not built on these lies
MrLukeFranks 20 hours ago
it is mathmeatically impossible to dispose of 6 million bodies with the few ovens on the aleged death camps. one camp had only two ovens and it would not have been physically possible to have destroyed 500,000 bodies in 2 years it operated with 2 ovens without so much as a trace of bone fragments. do some homework and it becomes scientific fact very quickly that the holocaust was most likely a hoax to help the creation of israel much as the iraq war was a hoax to go and steal iraqs oil
MrLukeFranks 21 hours ago
In sixteen Euro countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 1 day ago
You would have to be quite desperate to buy into lies such as these.
Diablorosa 2 days ago
Zionism is similar to Manifest Destiny, and I consider them both wrong. But the Holocaust DID happen. And how trying to debunk the numbers of the Holocaust victims and the way(s) in which they were murdered is beyond me. It happened! Some zionists use the Holocaust as propoganda, but anti-zionists (which doesn't make an anti-semite) should not even debate them on this issue. Again, the Holocaust happened; there's no denying that. Debate zionists on the issue of the Palestinian's suffering.
Aleksandr2002 2 days ago
@Aleksandr2002 i didnt know you were there!
infernalpact5 1 day ago
@infernalpact5 pfffffft
infernalpact5 1 day ago
@RyanBrooksby you are correct hitler policy was to rid all of europe of jews. this was carried out by the industrial mass murder in the death camps but i'm sure as you will find out ,that the nazis on this post will deny that the holocaust ever happened it was all a lie made up by jews ,..
mcgeogheganj 2 days ago
I like how most of you try to say "Oh allies made the Nazis look like they were comitting mass murder"...
the point of Hitler WAS mass murder. He blatantly said in his speeche's he would remove Jews entirely, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN OTHER THAN KILL ALL JEWS?
RyanBrooksby 2 days ago
@RyanBrooksby Hitler said it was to deport them.
mdmguyon 2 days ago
@mdmguyon
Then why was there Death Camps?
Hitler didn't just deport them, he killed them.
But Poland invaded Germany prior WW1. They should've realized that was going to happen.
I mean, say if I punch you, you'd punch me back. That's basically WW2.
RyanBrooksby 2 days ago
@RyanBrooksby "konzentrationslager" translates to concentration camp, not death camp thats a media myth.
infernalpact5 1 day ago
@mdmguyon thats correct dinosaur fossils , we know that dinosaurs walked the earth for millions say a 100 years but only maybe found say 5000 full skelotons ? and thats being generous thats a small number to represent all them years , sofinding few 1000 holocaust bodies does't mean that all that was murdered in the death camp most of the evidence was destroyed my the nazi millions died
mcgeogheganj 3 days ago
@Sockpuppet2012 do you mean the allies built the gas chambers after the war to incriminate the nazis of mass murder
mcgeogheganj 3 days ago
@mcgeogheganj
Source needed.
RyanBrooksby 2 days ago
@discoqueen1970
On reading your comments calling others stupid and preaching (God, Jesus, Yeshua) has nowt to do with what this video is about, by all means challenge ~ debate ~ i don't think its for you to be condescending (fall to your knees::beg his forgiveness) challenge,ask,debate fine preaching take it elsewhere okay ~ repetitive preachers syndrome no thx....
IMMORTALTRUTHZx 4 days ago
In sixteen European countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 4 days ago
@Sockpuppet2012
Nazi Wannabes
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Pathetic
MzNAZIBOMBER 2 days ago
@MzNAZIBOMBER
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
ZION CRIME FACTORY (dot) com
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 1 day ago
Why didn't Eichmann deny the survivor's testimony, or even shake his head? [1:16:33]
andreasegde 4 days ago
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When the barber was talking about benches and 160 people (at 1:02:40), I believe he was talking about when the barbers were later moved to the arrival huts (from the gas chambers).
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andreasegde 4 days ago
@mdmguyon there ain't any picture or film yes there is lots ! going by your logic there ain't no film photo of dinosaurs but there is plenty of evidence that there walked the earth,
mcgeogheganj 4 days ago
@mcgeogheganj The evidence for dinosaurs includes bones, which is not the case with the Holocaust. The only mass graves that have been found were due to Soviet massacres.
mdmguyon 4 days ago
You are a bunch of a** holes
olepapusy 5 days ago
@sirrvs a fine analogy, you must never question the holocaust, just the holocaust off limits to scrutiny everything else goes; Jewish dictatorship or what?
SonicDemonGirl 6 days ago
@discoqueen1970 do some good and stop your hatred, God will judge people, you can but it is of no value. Are Christians who watch video of Jesus being nailed to the cross are they to evil?
SonicDemonGirl 6 days ago
@SonicDemonGirl Dear Demon, Jesus is the Savior of us all. He died so you may live. He died so we can all love. I hate no one, I only wish the killings and hatred would stop. By denying the holocaust is to perpetuate that hatred and allowing it to happen again in the future.
discoqueen1970 4 days ago
@discoqueen1970 What, but "perpetuating hatred," would motivate someone to exaggerate the Holocaust? You're getting the cart before the horse. Jesus never said to not use your mind. What do you think the word "mind" in Matthew 22:37 means?
mdmguyon 4 days ago
@mdmguyon HUH?????? what the hell are you talking about, or do you know.
discoqueen1970 4 days ago
@SonicDemonGirl Don't preach Miss Demon, God has no place for you. You need to fall on you knees before Yeshua and beg His forgiveness and everyone who died during the war.
discoqueen1970 4 days ago
@discoqueen1970 now just leave the typical jew mouth you must be evil and hate out of it, any other holocaust or tragedy you can look at without being accused of Anti-Semitism or accusations of any kind. Truth needs no dictators looking out for it remember much of our history often changes as time passes, must it stand still just for jews? everything is fine but don't mention the holocaust, its people like yourself who try to hold mankind back with your arrogance and righteousness
SonicDemonGirl 6 days ago
@discoqueen1970 just remember history often changes with ongoing research this is fact, if all historians had your train of thought the world according to your logic would be flat. The very nature of this is horrific without a doubt, that in no way means it can't be researched no one person or body has the right to say it mustn't ever be questioned no matter how traumatic it is. You or any historian has to step back from the horrificness and look at all evidence wit a open mind.
SonicDemonGirl 6 days ago
@discoqueen1970 you are such a idiot, going by what you say "Because if you can look at a picture or a video of people suffering, doesn't matter who they are," so does that mean historians and researches are evil ? with your logic it seems it would. And by the way historians are fore always rewriting history from new evidence and research, just has at Auschwitz they removed a original plaque saying 4 million died there, but now it has a plaque saying one and a half million died ????????????????
SonicDemonGirl 6 days ago
In sixteen European countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 6 days ago
I would rather have the ugly truth than a beautiful lie.
DankMcstankey 6 days ago
@SonicDemonGirl there was no typhus outbreak, the skeleton like prisoners where the last of the holocaust to survive, the nazis tried to destroy any evudence but the scale of the crime was to vast ! you have no evidence our proof the the holocaust did not happen , the distruction of on a vast scale , is well documented by various historians
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
Let me shift this; do you believe that the holocaust happened? Or do you believe it was a hoax by so called zionists. If it's the latter, then I shall say no more. If it's the former and you believe it happened then I stand corrected.
discoqueen1970 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 What does a disagreement about history have to do with good and evil? You might be careful about what you mean by "the holocaust happened." Truth isn't so simple.
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@mdmguyon Because if you can look at a picture or a video of people suffering, doesn't matter who they are, jew, arab, christian, and say it didn't happen that is evil. In your heart you say, oh that didn't happen, that's a lie; that in itself shows evil because when it happens again, and it will, you will either turn your back on it or you will be part of it. And, that is the ugly truth. Man has an evil heart and history has proven it, and we are part of it if we ignore it.
discoqueen1970 6 days ago
@discoqueen1970 I'd like to get back to what I wrote about being careful about what you mean by "it happened." There aren't any pictures or videos of "it."
mdmguyon 6 days ago
@mdmguyon My goodness, you are stupid aren't you?
discoqueen1970 4 days ago
@mdmguyon There are many pictures of the holocaust. My father in law brought back pictures he took of thousands of bodies in gruesome piles and then of bulldozers used to shove them into a pit.
beet74 4 days ago
In sixteen European countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 1 week ago
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no outbreak in the gaurd barracks? correct typhus singled out supreme races only, typhus only familiar with chosen people being special chosen typhus
SonicDemonGirl 1 week ago
@discoqueen The only immortal truth here is that hell is waiting for you for being a drama queen Jesus said so really really, i asked the man from Del Monte was the holocaust a lie and he say YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
SonicDemonGirl 1 week ago
To all you have and will have replied to me. I will not waste my time debating you. It is a useless endeavor and I don't have time for useless human beings. So, you can keep asking, I won't reply. I don't reply anyway to evil. The only immortal truth here is that hell is waiting for you all, Jesus said so.
discoqueen1970 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 wow, the ultimate Ad Hominem is seen in this ladies post! "Won't reply to evil"-define what is evil? You mean the people who question the holocaust is evil? Circular reasoning as well. If you refuse to debate, but only use tactics, then I cannot wait til you are blocked!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Define evil, let's see; edward the gray. that about sums it up
discoqueen1970 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 And why am I evil?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 If I had to choose between skeptically seeking truth and blindly accepting what I've been told since childhood as truth, I'd pick the latter as evil.
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 Do you believe an eternity of punishment is fair for even a lifetime of sin?
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@mdmguyon what about all them starved to death bodies , how do you account for them, typhus which appears to only a problem for the prisoners ,no outbreak in the gaurd barracks?
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj Maybe you have refused to read articles on codoh that deals with this? After all, Mengele himself noted that they needed to work on getting the sick back to good health because it affects their soldiers as well, but only a believer would over look that.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
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mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
German soldiers did in fact drink and carouse. What else could they do when they had to face such horrors. Wouldn't you want to get drunk! I would wish for a shot of heroin. This is a horrible video. and a big huge LIE
discoqueen1970 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970 Explain what on this video is a lie? Eichmann was telling the truth that dead people can still have their blood shoot out of the ground like a geyser when their hearts are not beating? Explain please....
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
In sixteen European countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 1 week ago
@Sockpuppet2012 take your sock puppet and shove it up your ars.
discoqueen1970 1 week ago
@discoqueen1970
Do you think that will make the Holohoax believable?
Why do you curse like a foul-mouthed Jew, instead of offering evidence for your stupid hare-brained Holohoax?
Sockpuppet2012 1 week ago
@Sockpuppet2012 I curse because you do. You get what you give, it's that simple. I have never in my heart wanted to get this angry at any one person. Anger leads nowhere. But, when I read stuff like this I am truly incited to anger, now I know how God truly feels about man and his heart. Hatred is prevalent on this earth and it will never go away if people continue to encourage it.
discoqueen1970 6 days ago
@discoqueen1970 Please, tell us, how does saying, "I don't think the event took place in this way" 'encourage hate'? If a cop tells a murder suspect, "Based on the evidence, I don't believe you committed this murder," does that constitute 'encouraging hatred' towards the victim?
sirrvs 6 days ago
@mdmguyon who is david irving ? every bit of evidence films photo eye witinesses, all this is to be ignored ,maybe ww2 never happened ? were after this fictional war did all the jews never mind themthey don't matter , 50 million people just disappeared were did they go ,or is this a fictional number too, i thought all nazis ,like yourself ,would be proud and delighted of getting rid off 6million ? jews
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj What photos are you referring to? There aren't any of anyone who was gassed in a gas chamber. No one who had been gassed would have looked like they had starved to death, as those photos show.
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj On the Web site of P. B. S., at pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-confessions/..., is a video, called "Confessions," about Danial Williams, who confessed to a crime that he didn't commit. At 11 minutes and 3 seconds into the video, his attorney, Don Salzman, said "The problem was that the confession that Danial gave was completely inconsistent with the facts of the crime." After watching the video, is it your impression that this was an isolated case?
mdmguyon 1 week ago
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@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
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@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
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@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mdmguyon who ? is david irving,.. film photo evidence of all the camps, all the witnesses who give statements every bit of evidence is to be dismissed. if the holocaust never happened where did the jews from all of europe disappear to , maybe ww2 never happened hitler and the nazis were delusions ,so what is your purpose your part in all of this propoganda, you are here to hate the jews for what ? and to keep the likes of me ,with the ayrian true ?
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
This video is FULL of CRAP! They are so FULL of DECEIT!
578mastin 1 week ago
@578mastin Please explain what it is of this movie that is deceit? Come on, please do tell us! :)
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@mdmguyon why wuold you denial the holocaust, the nazis deed have a policy the final solution , murdered 6 million gypses,jews , political prisoners , metally ill patients ,this is all well documented and there is evidence from the nazis too ,so why deny
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj According to David Irving, "any historian can now confirm that nowhere in all the archives of the world has yet been found one wartime document referring to a Führer's order to destroy the Jews, or for that matter, one wartime document referring to gas chambers or gassings." Dead bodies or ashes of millions of Jews haven't been found. Demographic analysis doesn't clarify anything about the numbers involved. Witness statements are unreliable and confessions were acquired by torture.
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@mdmguyon i hope it happens to you and your loved one. you don't mind me saying that since you say it never happened. unfortunately there are more books on holocaust study then any other single topic. you are one stupid prick.
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NaziHangman 1 week ago
@jossgower can you name some of these. counties with this law , ?
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj "Holocaust denial is explicitly or implicitly illegal in 17 countries: Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, and Switzerland."
- Wikipedia
mdmguyon 1 week ago
this guy is debating and is having an arguement with himself ! many. accounts with tha same style of comments , hitlers biological grandfather was jewish , his grandmother work as a cook/ servant , she had a child to the jewish family son 19 year old leopol frankbergen .
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
The jews are so arrogant that they never thought their lies would be scrutinized. Once folks started revealing their lies,they created laws to punish anyone for exposing them.
donsaiditwoud 1 week ago
In sixteen European countries, you can go to prison for doubting the Holohoax!
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial".
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
Nazi Gassings (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 1 week ago
I think the very fact that in some european countries it is illegal to even question the "Holocaust" shows it's probably a lie.
jossgower 1 week ago
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@jossgower Whats funny about that statement is that in Nazi Germany there was ZERO Free Speech and saying things against the Nazis would result in imprisonment or death.
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If there is anyone here that can show who Alois Schicklgruber's father was I would be interested in hearing from you. Alois Schicklgruber was Hitlers father, who for unknown reason changed his surname to "Hitler". Thanks.
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Salomon Mayer von Rothschild is has been said is another possible father to Hitlers bastard father Alois Schicklgruber.
"Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived her son. At that time, she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Salomon Mayer von Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy, she was sent back to her home in Spital where Hitler was born" What a mystery.
NazisAreSwine 1 week ago
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To anyone & everyone who wishes to post "comment" here i will not censor anybody at all whether you are PRO this video or AGAINST,,, but i will not hesitate to BLOCK SHILL accounts like all those over the past few days, Plus to the childish few who want to come on here and call names as the case recently, believe me it don't matter what you think of me or call me that's fine ~ but i will NOT HESITATE to BLOCK YOU and same goes for the ones who call for this documentary to be FLAGGED!!!!!!! END
IMMORTALTRUTHZx 1 week ago
@phxsparkyrox thanks for your immensely invaluable input!
IMMORTALTRUTHZx 1 week ago
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@OrnamentalCrime ~ bess1953 is not blocked from here, certainly not from me ~ if she can't comment here then she will have to take it up with Youtube ~ if she is blocked maybe and i say "maybe" it is due to the possibility of her being responsible for all the shill accounts thee other day, its not hard for Google-tube to see the IP addresses of accounts. ?????? ~ tell her to try post or if its you try post, nothing else i can say.
IMMORTALTRUTHZx 1 week ago
@IMMORTALTRUTHZx Not me with the shill accounts,I post alone.
bess1953 1 week ago
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@bess1953 right!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
This is 4 hours of boring crap.
phxsparkyrox 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray historians have discussed the candidates as Alois schicklgruber biological father johann georg hiedler , johann nepomuk Huttler and a jew named leopold frankenberger ,why can't you do some simple research on Hess, the guy said England thats a error , i wouldn't say canada ,and really mean america two differant counties , the same a Scotland and England ? the whole film is based on contradicting evidence
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj Wow, the error on his part between England and Scotland somehow contradicts the whole video? lame -_- And yet they have still not provided anything that proves that his blood line is part Jewish? On another note, who is Jewish? By biological or Religion?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime three relatives appeared with him as witnesses ,one of whom was johann nepomuk Hiedlers son in law . the priest agreed to amend the records , the civil authorities automatically processed the churchs decision and Alois Schicklgruber had a new name ,it is not know who decided on the spelling of Hitler instead of Hiedler , Alois openly admitted having been born out of wedlock before and after the name change
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@mcgeogheganj ht tp://w ww.nytimes.c o m /1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.ht ml If only you guys did some simple research :) Oh and The guy did mean Scotland but made a mistake on narration, but I guess mistakes ruin the whole thing right?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
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@EdwardTheGray
"mistake on narration"? its called a lie is it not? What an odd statement when you repeatedly post this:
"How about you pick a point on this video, one at a time and let's discuss it?"
EdwardTheGray 1 day ago
Point by point, you claimed "HITLER WAS NOT JEWISH" and that has yet to be proven.
How many points deducted? hardy har.
NazisKuntSwim 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime as a rising young junior customs official ,he used his birthname Schicklgruber ,but in mid -1876 39years old and establised in his career ,he asked permission to use his stepfathers family name .he appeared before the parish priest in dollersheim and asserted his father was johann georg hiedler who had married his mother now wished to legitimize him
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray your film has many errors untruths Rudolf Hess did not parachute out over England as the narrator states ,this act by Hess is well documented, and your film got this fact WRONG ! so why should we the viewer take your film and evidence seriouse if you can't get right , Hess landed in Scotland on the estate of the 14th duke of hamilton ,
mcgeogheganj 1 week ago
If there is anyone here that can show who Alois Schicklgruber's father was I would be interested in hearing from you. Alois Schicklgruber was Hitlers father as far as is known who for unknown reason changed his surname to "Hitler". Thanks.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
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Again I ask, why has @bess1953 been blocked from commenting here?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
Why has @bess1953 been blocked from commenting here?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
what a grand deception on mankind Mr Hitler a Jew who gave you what you want a chosen land for chosen people. who chose jew to be chosen people? no to the holocaust just one big hoax of lies why? they do thisd?
RevealurselfnoW 1 week ago
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@RevealurselfnoW Hitler was NOT a Jew! Conspiracies about him just pisses me off! Why in the hell would they support someone who put them all in prison to stop their parasitic ways? Please stop spreading it around that he is Jewish!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Is there any concrete evidence that his grandfather was NOT Jewish?
Therein lies the problem with your denial. Why would any one mans opinion matter in a historical case of such significance?
And more importantly why would it matter so much to those who claim they are not ant Semitic and merely wish to debate the Holocaust?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
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@OrnamentalCrime OK, lets hear it, what is your thesis as to why Hitler was Jewish? And did I say that I was not anti Semitic? Does that change anything?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I'm sorry but I asked you a few questions and you answer them with more questions?
Confusing.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime I answered your question, just go and look for it. Again, I never stated that I was or was not anti Semitic, and even IF I was, that would not change a thing.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
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@EdwardTheGray Well I did a brief scan of your comments Edward and I would have to judge you decidedly Anti Semitic. As to answering my questions you did not.
"why would it matter so much to those who claim they are not ant Semitic and merely wish to debate the Holocaust?"
Why is it so abhorrent to imagine Hitler was partly Jewish? It is certainly possible.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime Jews were driven out of Graz in the 15th century and were not allowed to return until 1856, twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born, which means that no Jewish family called Frankenberger. No historian believes that, not even pro holocaust sites believe it!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I think one would have to be biased, ie Anti Semetic to take that as proof.
Is there any actual evidence as to Hitlers Grandfather being Jewish or not? Hitlers father was illegitimate is that not correct?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime I answered your question, and you are ignoring that fact! Jews were driven out of Graz in the 15th century, and they did not return until 1856, 20 years after Hitlers grandfather was born. Can you present credible DNA results that PROVES that he is part Jewish? And no, you are starting to hint at Ad Hominems, as you seem to think that Anti Semitic people just do not have credibility because of that fact.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I never said you lacked credibility because you are Anti Semitic. It does make you biased obviously. Which makes it hard to take you seriously when you state opinions as facts. The Jews have been mixed throughout all the races of Europe for over a thousand years. You surmise Hitler could not be Jewish because of a law against Jews living there? If only the flux of human interactions was so black & white. DNA has proven such assumption to be lies.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
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@OrnamentalCrime OK, then why would you defend said lie if the DNA proved said assumptions a lie? And being biased does not make one wrong. Loads of people are Biased, like the majority of holocaust believers. It is a fact of life, people will always be biased towards something. I never surmised that Hitler could not be Jewish because of laws, I am stating that because Jews are racially pure back then, and were driven out, that it is unlikely that he was.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I think the very idea of "racially pure" has been fairly discounted by science, more now a cultural crutch for those seeking meaning in race but in reality its just appearance. Your answer 'that it is unlikely that he was' is proof of nothing.
You being biased does not make you "wrong" and does not make you right. It does however make me skeptical. Hitler was well acquainted with the power of propaganda and much of his story is muddled with it. .
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime Yet again, I ask you, were is your credible sources of DNA that he was part Jewish? If he is easy to show as being Jewish, then it would not be hard to produce the results, no? I am going to bed, that should give you some time to produce those results.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I clearly never stated he WAS Jewish, it was you who claimed he WASN'T. I only asked for substantial proof of which you gave none worthy.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime There are plenty of sites out there from the pro holocaust side that provide points that he was not Jewish, however it was anti Hitler persons that came up with the canard that he was Jewish, and they never provided DNA proof that he was. By saying that I need to provide proof that he is NOT Jewish is like saying that I need to prove that I never murdered anyone. With that logic, I can say that Elie Wiesel is a child molester. Can you provide proof that he is not?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Without solid proof of who Alois Schicklgruber's father was the question shall remain open.
Both sides will only belive what they wish.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime The saying "Innocent until proven guilty" applies to everyday life as well. They made the claim that he was part Jewish, yet they provided no proof that he was at all. By telling me that I must provide proof that he is not is the same as saying that I am guilty of murder. Now if you provide some DNA proof that he was, then yes, I would need to provide some counter claim, yet there has never been any evidence submitted on their part, so the point still remains, he is not Jewish.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I wouldn't go so far as to definitely say that Hitler wasn't 1/4 Jewish just because it hasn't been proved that he was. "Innocent until proven guilty" is only a legal safeguard. As O. J. Simpson proved, that doesn't mean that an accused who is found not guilty didn't do it. It's simple logic that if something can't be proven false, it is therefore possible. That Hitler was 1/4 Jewish needs proof. That he might have been only needs the lack of proof that he wasn't.
mdmguyon 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Elie Wiesel being a child molester is far less likely than Hitler being Gay or Jewish. Both of which seem far more likely to the unbiased among us.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime "Elie Wiesel being a child molester is far less likely than Hitler being Gay"-Provide details as to why you think that he is not a child molester? Using your logic, they are guilty until proven innocent right? Prove that he is not what I claim.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Are purposely getting of subject? I asked you for proof of your earlier claim to another post about Hitler being Jewish. You stated that "Hitler WAS NOT JEWISH!"
I would be hesitant to claim that as fact when it is only your belief.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime I am not jumping off subject, I am perfectly within the realms of the subject! Again, using the same law "innocent until proven guilty" applies to everything else. It has never been proven that he was in fact part Jewish. Again, you seem to forget that part. Has it been PROVEN that he was in fact Jewish? Again, using your logic, prove to me that Elie wiesel never molested a child? You want to defend your logic, yet fight against it?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I never made the claim in the positive or negative about your statement about Wiesel, it seemed a deliberate distraction on your part. I only asked for you to back up YOUR CLAIM that "HITLER WAS NOT JEWISH!"
Without knowing who Alois Schicklgruber (Hitlers father) was it seems your claim is without value.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime You still do not see the undertone to anything that I have said! It is an example that I am giving you about Elie Wiesel. With your logic, I can say that he is, and I am asking you to provide proof that he is not. The same is what happened with your side, they made the claim that he was Jewish, provided no evidence, and I am asking you to prove that he is not one. Again, I am using the same logic that you use. Or how about this, can you show proof that you are not one?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I have never heard anyone but you make such a claim about Wiesel. It seems childish ala"na na na you're one too" hardly relevant since I never claimed Hitler was Jewish or not, let alone a child molester.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime omg, I cannot believe I am having a debate with you on this! Did you fail to read that undertone of my message to you? That was an example, IE showing you that anyone can make claims with your logic and then ask someone to provide proof that it is not true. In this day and age, you have to show proof of something, it was claimed that he was Jewish, has never been proven, and you ask me to show proof that he is not. And do you even know what an Ad Hominem is?
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
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@OrnamentalCrime Yes, I chose the wrong word, I should have said Red Herring, but that is because I am tired right now. You try working for 19 hours straight!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray I know the meaning of work I assure you. Maybe tomorrow we can pick up this conversation.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime Again, you defended it and asked me to provide proof of something that was never proven by your side to begin with, that is the same as telling me that I am a murder and that I need to show proof that I am not. In essence "guilty until proven innocent" is your logic. I have not seen any evidence that he was, yet you are asking me to provide a counter claim to something that was never proven to begin with!
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray "by your side"??? What on earth does that mean?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime wow, you still have not gotten to the root to anything that I have told you, and you decide to start singling out parts of my grammar? Turning to Ad Hominems now? Last time before I go to bed, "Innocent until proven guilty" :) Not Jewish because he was never proven to be Jewish in the first place! Just a fact of law and real logic.
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray "Ad Hominems" why do you insist on using that phrase over and over?
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray By that logic has Wiesel been "proven" to be Jewish? He claims he is but wheres the "proof"? Did Hitler ever claim his Grand Father was not Jewish? When he married Eva three days before he killed himself he would have to provide proof of paternal and maternal non Jewish grandparents under Nazi racial laws.
There is no mention of such a document being submitted.
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@OrnamentalCrime In other words, good night. And remember, innocent until proven guilty is the standard of law, and no one has proven that he was Jewish at all. And again, provide some DNA evidence that supports that claim. Bet you cant :)
EdwardTheGray 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray Bet I don't care and you would have a sure bet. :)
OrnamentalCrime 1 week ago
@EdwardTheGray He invaded Poland because he wanted to unite the people of Danzig with the Reich. In his speech on September 19, he said that he had done his best to resolve the issue peacefully, but according to the Wikipedia article, his lack of credibility after what he did with Czechoslovakia was a major factor in the talks breaking down, which he didn't mention in the speech.
mdmguyon 1 week ago