I don't understand why anybody would wish to adopt the native accent of the language that they have learned. It isn't necessary in order to make a good impression. Quite the opposite, because natives are more likely to judge a foreign-accented speaker more fairly, like a learner driver. Awkward or unconventional speech sounds more graceful in the context of a foreign accent.
@inkstersco - unfortunately some people find it necessary in order to get a good job. I like the different accents my students have as long as I can understand what they are saying, but in the current job market a lot of people need the "edge" that having a native accent can give you. This is especially true in call centres.
This video is very interesting. About the phonemes that the people doesn't normally use, I think it's true, because I am Brazilan (so, my natural language is portuguese, the Brazilian dialect), I have been learning English since my seven years. Now I am seventeen, and just a week ago I really learned how to pronounce correclty the dental fricatives. Phonology really can help a lot when learning other languages.
Written English IS phonetic, regardless of whether certain phonemes represent various different sounds depending on the word being spelled. It certainly isn't pictographic. Even though there is not a one-to-one relationship where one phoneme ONLY represents one sound, it is still phonetics. So, there are rules that govern the reading of the language phonetically, and this is why phonetics is studied at all.
My dad has a poster of the phonetics that looks exactly like that in our house for his voice students. It's so they can learn how to sing in the accent of whatever language they're singing in.
The distinction drawn between consonants and vowels here is ok on the whole, but there are some sounds that can't be divided this way. Particularly a subset of consonants called semivowels.
If you look at [j] and [i], or [w] and [u], you'll find that they are phonetically very difficult to distinguish. The difference between these pairs of vowels and consonants is not their articulation but their distribution. To be precise, it is phonology, not phonetics, that draws the line between them.
This is a very interresting video, but I was wondering, are you astmatic? Your breathing is very distructing! But I really think this is a nice and educational vid!
I can say I am fluent in both Spanish and English. I am currently trying to learn French, but how will I know when I am fluent? Whats the cut off line between knowing a couple of phrases or being fluent>?
It's the way you feel it, it you've trouble to find the right words, you've to stop to think on the structures, you feel that you're simplifying your own thoughts too much, then you're not fluent.
If you keep in mind that the word fluent comes from the same latin root as flow, it means that you are able to speak in a flowing manner. IMO this means that you can hold a conversation without constantly stopping to look words up or coming up against a "brick wall" and not being able to continue.
I don't think this is a black/white thing, i.e. either you are fluent or you aren't...there are various levels of fluency.
I just want to say thanks to professor Arguelles for his time dedicated to making these interesting videos. I just speak three languages ( spanish, english, french ) at the moment. I'm 26 now and at some point I used to think that learning another language would be kind of harder after the age of 25. However, after watching these videos I'm really motivated to learn another language , such as italian and german. Thanks from France.
I think your mistaken. A language is not fixed. Itsa constantly evolving process with multiple variants all competing for dominance. There isn't a single English language. Not even in England.
I sent two videos to you sir. Can you identify the language? The laughter is not directed at but I looking for language that might exist in my subconscious mind.
I love these sorts of videos, they're really interesting. Also, the topic you brought up about the different accents and the vowels made me remeber that when I first learned about IPA, I thought all the sounds were static. However, that is not the case. For example, you can make /i/ phoneme while in the /a/ position. I think these sort of things help create variety and dialects in languages. Great job anyway.
Very interesting video. I study languages, and Ive always been good at reproducing the sounds (getting the tongue position and mechanics down) of foreign languages just by listening. I tend to be able to sound the words with very little accent long before I can actually put sentences together which can be embarrassing when native speakers assume that I am fluent because I have almost no accent yet I cant actually converse!
I've never understood why people study this stuff. It doesn't help you to become fluent in a language or improve your accent. Majoring in something like linguistics is one of the least beneficially things I can think of. The way to learn a language is through experience with and exposure to the language. You can't analyze your way into learning a language, at least not to a native level.
Saxquiz, you have a point, but just check out who the professor is: he has more experience with and exposure to actual language learning than anyone else alive!
I have to partially disagree with you. The analysis Professor Arguelles speaks of is a kind of exposure to a language. Both hearing a language spoken and reading descriptions of how the language should sound is beneficial for me, it helps me get an idea of what to listen for. Thank you for the informative videos professor.
Pls, read this and you will have an idea why stdying linguistics is important.
"[...] recordings to train actors to use the following dialects or foreign accented English: New York City, American Southern, West Indian/African, Spanish, Italian, French, German, Russian, Yiddish, Australian, Texas, Boston, British North Country, Cockney, Scottish, Irish, "Down East" New England, "Kennedyesque", Chicago, Mid-West Farm, Standard British, Polish[...]"
On one hand you're right in that yes learning a language properly is through immersion. That can't be denied. On the other hand though, one can greatly improve how they use your mouth and vocals to produce certain sounds which would generally not be present within their own language or they might pronounce differently. For example, when I started learning Spanish, I found the b/v sound hard /ß/ but then I learnt how to do that. Likewise for the French 'u' /y/.
You don't have to apply everything he's talking about in order to come close to "sounding right" when using a foreign language. If a German guy has a slight accent when speaking Italian - who cares ? This is interesting nontheless.
I dont know who told you majoring in linguistics was supposed to help you learn a language anyway. Linguistics a discipline that describes a language holistically. From speech sounds-- like what the professor is going over-- to word order etc. It's not going to make you a more competent speaker of a give language-- it's not supposed to, just aware of what is going on when you speak a language and by being aware you tend to notice mistakes, which I think is what the professor was getting at.
You need only listen to certain people speaking your language to answer that question. I know people who 'know' English perfectly. They have spoken it for years. They understand the grammar and how to put words together better than native speakers. Yet, when listening to them, they are nearly impossible to understand because of their impossibly heavy accent. That's where phonetics can be of great use.
As a student of both Arabic and Old Norse, I have no choice but to salute you on your intelligent choice of phonemes demonstrated. *grin* I was already looking forward to more Indo-European ear-candy, but IPA is undeniably something that any serious language learner (especially one equipped only with the knowledge provided by certain school systems) should master.
I love that you touched on dialects. You did a pretty good job with the different English accents. That's something I'm interested in. I learned of a dialect coach who worked with actors a lot and I thought that would be a really neat job. Where would a person start if they wanted to pursue such a career or at least acquire those skill sets? Would it be phonetics to begin? Does the study of phonetics include dialects?
The perfect place to start would be with the series "Acting with an Accent" by Dr. David A. Stern. He provides training for over a score of accents, covering both regional native English accents and various foreign accents in English.
That looks like a pretty good book. I'll look into it. It seems to be out of print. Have you heard anything about Accents: A Manual for Actors by Robert Blumenfeld?
It is not a book - it is a series of recordings to train actors to use the following dialects or foreign accented English: New York City, American Southern, West Indian/African, Spanish, Italian, French, German, Russian, Yiddish, Australian, Texas, Boston, British North Country, Cockney, Scottish, Irish, "Down East" New England, "Kennedyesque", Chicago, Mid-West Farm, Standard British, Polish, Norwegian/Swedish, Arabic, Farsi (Persian)
They are still readily available and highly recommended.
Cool, I found it. I'm taking a look at some of them. Seems like a decent place to start. What about getting into the theory of it and understanding what the difference between different sounds is?
Great video :) I hope you wll show the rest of the IPA later like the one with stress and tone and co-articilation consonants like French ɥ Labial-palatal approximant as in and uniqe Swedish ɧ Voiceless palatal-velar fricative as in ''sju'' and the clicks, ejectives and implosives . I am looiking foward for all your prounonciation tips :)
awsome simply awsome ill use this as support in one of my subjects. thank you.
Hayato1105 3 months ago
Omg, you are so badass. I did not expect you to suddenly go into other English accents. You have so many tricky tricks up your sleeve.
Ftheebeep 5 months ago
I don't understand why anybody would wish to adopt the native accent of the language that they have learned. It isn't necessary in order to make a good impression. Quite the opposite, because natives are more likely to judge a foreign-accented speaker more fairly, like a learner driver. Awkward or unconventional speech sounds more graceful in the context of a foreign accent.
inkstersco 5 months ago
@inkstersco - unfortunately some people find it necessary in order to get a good job. I like the different accents my students have as long as I can understand what they are saying, but in the current job market a lot of people need the "edge" that having a native accent can give you. This is especially true in call centres.
YourTeacherLE 4 months ago
The mozart effect is a myth.
ingsve 7 months ago
A really nice introduction to phonetics.
tinsh0es 9 months ago
This is beautiful, you really need audio to study phonetics, thanks for the upload!
MEpianist 9 months ago
RAS KILLS!
disciplineslim 11 months ago
That's an interesting rendition of a Nashville accent. I've never heard a non-rhotic Tennessee accent before.
getreallanguage 1 year ago
This video is very interesting. About the phonemes that the people doesn't normally use, I think it's true, because I am Brazilan (so, my natural language is portuguese, the Brazilian dialect), I have been learning English since my seven years. Now I am seventeen, and just a week ago I really learned how to pronounce correclty the dental fricatives. Phonology really can help a lot when learning other languages.
tady159 1 year ago
lol that's not tennessee, that's georgia
cookiesonsteve 1 year ago
@cookiesonsteve Northwestern Georgia, to be more specific.
SalvadorW2 1 year ago
Interesting accent yourself, ProfASAr. Where I'm from, we say [ploʊsɪv] rather than [plɑsɪv].
TakahashiMaikeru 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this video!
pikachyu1 1 year ago
your brittish accent sounds like C3PO
sharkmen007 1 year ago
baby safari? where can I buy that cd?
enter19 1 year ago
Written English IS phonetic, regardless of whether certain phonemes represent various different sounds depending on the word being spelled. It certainly isn't pictographic. Even though there is not a one-to-one relationship where one phoneme ONLY represents one sound, it is still phonetics. So, there are rules that govern the reading of the language phonetically, and this is why phonetics is studied at all.
newcode2001 1 year ago
GOOD INFORMATION
MrBelaid123 1 year ago
Anyone can learn foreign sounds and pronunciation, even if you start in adulthood. I have personally done it with Arabic.
rcfroggatt 1 year ago
Thank you for the lecture, it was forcefull
microfm 1 year ago
that was awesome and very helpful. Thanks
peacewalker7 1 year ago
..you just made me NOT want to learn about accents.
urnotarockstar 1 year ago
My dad has a poster of the phonetics that looks exactly like that in our house for his voice students. It's so they can learn how to sing in the accent of whatever language they're singing in.
MyouDestiny 1 year ago
The distinction drawn between consonants and vowels here is ok on the whole, but there are some sounds that can't be divided this way. Particularly a subset of consonants called semivowels.
If you look at [j] and [i], or [w] and [u], you'll find that they are phonetically very difficult to distinguish. The difference between these pairs of vowels and consonants is not their articulation but their distribution. To be precise, it is phonology, not phonetics, that draws the line between them.
snackajack117 1 year ago
loving the chart
submura 2 years ago
i like your explaination, thanks for making it available
S74R 2 years ago 2
Swedish uses some retroflexes.
Pestgris 2 years ago
By accident I reach to this channel, very interesting.
snewjaimes 2 years ago
This is a very interresting video, but I was wondering, are you astmatic? Your breathing is very distructing! But I really think this is a nice and educational vid!
pritstiftt 2 years ago
I think he's just nervous.
widdlywhee 2 years ago
I can say I am fluent in both Spanish and English. I am currently trying to learn French, but how will I know when I am fluent? Whats the cut off line between knowing a couple of phrases or being fluent>?
jceja24 2 years ago 2
It's the way you feel it, it you've trouble to find the right words, you've to stop to think on the structures, you feel that you're simplifying your own thoughts too much, then you're not fluent.
Dzwitch 2 years ago
If you keep in mind that the word fluent comes from the same latin root as flow, it means that you are able to speak in a flowing manner. IMO this means that you can hold a conversation without constantly stopping to look words up or coming up against a "brick wall" and not being able to continue.
I don't think this is a black/white thing, i.e. either you are fluent or you aren't...there are various levels of fluency.
ikkyu15 2 years ago
Wow fascinating!!! Who knew or new, these things existed?
jceja24 2 years ago
ever look in a dictionary? lol
snackajack117 1 year ago
Is there any way I can get the transcript? Thanks!
santiastrobbi 2 years ago
Is there any way I can get the transcript? Thanks!
santiastrobbi 2 years ago
Is there any way I can get the transcript? Thanks!
santiastrobbi 2 years ago
awsome, i think i know what i want to do in university now. maybe ill translate the voynich manuscript one day
MrYpres 2 years ago
thanx proff you're a good man
alshareef0 2 years ago
I just want to say thanks to professor Arguelles for his time dedicated to making these interesting videos. I just speak three languages ( spanish, english, french ) at the moment. I'm 26 now and at some point I used to think that learning another language would be kind of harder after the age of 25. However, after watching these videos I'm really motivated to learn another language , such as italian and german. Thanks from France.
piurex22 2 years ago 6
is that similar to linguistics ?
hot14boy 2 years ago
Thanks a lot teacher from Sapin.
Ulaila222 2 years ago
what if I want to speak Dog language?
insanelygreatproduct 2 years ago
If you want to speak dog languaje you must walk on four legs the first, the second open your lips a little ans sey wooooooo.
Ulaila222 2 years ago
its one of the first launguages i learned
MrYpres 2 years ago
They should have you teach americans our language properly. Come to think of it, you could teach most english how to speak english properly as well.
JamesGod08 2 years ago
define proper
danski86 2 years ago 14
I think your mistaken. A language is not fixed. Itsa constantly evolving process with multiple variants all competing for dominance. There isn't a single English language. Not even in England.
kytelernl 2 years ago 17
Because American English isn't a dialect or anything; it's OBVIOUSLY just an incorrect version of British English...
amaltoadie 2 years ago
You're so wrong that it's sad.
78625amginE 2 years ago 4
The perils of self-study...
3yalex 2 years ago
what about Aussie and kiwi accent ~_~
Saudi7Girl 2 years ago
I sent two videos to you sir. Can you identify the language? The laughter is not directed at but I looking for language that might exist in my subconscious mind.
journeysolo 2 years ago
I love these sorts of videos, they're really interesting. Also, the topic you brought up about the different accents and the vowels made me remeber that when I first learned about IPA, I thought all the sounds were static. However, that is not the case. For example, you can make /i/ phoneme while in the /a/ position. I think these sort of things help create variety and dialects in languages. Great job anyway.
MurderingCow 2 years ago 4
Very interesting video. I study languages, and Ive always been good at reproducing the sounds (getting the tongue position and mechanics down) of foreign languages just by listening. I tend to be able to sound the words with very little accent long before I can actually put sentences together which can be embarrassing when native speakers assume that I am fluent because I have almost no accent yet I cant actually converse!
christocr 2 years ago 7
I think you are an pretty cool guy. You always have no accent and doesn't afraid of anything.
KomonHouseholdObjex 2 years ago 7
@KomonHouseholdObjex
KomonHouseholdObject is a pretty cool guy. He knows when to throw in a meme, and doesn't afraid of anything.
Ftheebeep 5 months ago
interesting stuff
bipolarteddybear5656 2 years ago
ĝi estas bonega, profesoro! vi multe helpas min.
ca c'est excellent, professeur! vous m'aider beaucoup.
dieser ist sehr gut, Herr Lehrer. Sie helfen mir sehr viel.
this is excellent. you help me a lot. i have a couple of questions. where are you from? (your accent is hard to place, s. africa?).
may you list your spoken languages? anyway, great work on ALL of your videos. keep it up :)
anglaismoyen 2 years ago 2
Your pronunciation is... interesting...
sasasaassasasasa 2 years ago 3
Thank you very much Professor!
schwabel61 2 years ago
You sure pronounce "plosive" and "bilabial" oddly.
sjheiss 2 years ago
Good to see you're using Firefox! You instantly have my utmost respect!
Daninkorea 2 years ago 2
Ditto that!
kev1zhong 2 years ago
Im from London, your RP Accent was very very good, a good 9.5 out of 10.
red213 2 years ago 3
Buon professor'!
MaBu888 2 years ago
I've never understood why people study this stuff. It doesn't help you to become fluent in a language or improve your accent. Majoring in something like linguistics is one of the least beneficially things I can think of. The way to learn a language is through experience with and exposure to the language. You can't analyze your way into learning a language, at least not to a native level.
saxquiz 2 years ago
Saxquiz, you have a point, but just check out who the professor is: he has more experience with and exposure to actual language learning than anyone else alive!
Jonzwelet 2 years ago 7
I have to partially disagree with you. The analysis Professor Arguelles speaks of is a kind of exposure to a language. Both hearing a language spoken and reading descriptions of how the language should sound is beneficial for me, it helps me get an idea of what to listen for. Thank you for the informative videos professor.
mick1316591 2 years ago 3
Pls, read this and you will have an idea why stdying linguistics is important.
"[...] recordings to train actors to use the following dialects or foreign accented English: New York City, American Southern, West Indian/African, Spanish, Italian, French, German, Russian, Yiddish, Australian, Texas, Boston, British North Country, Cockney, Scottish, Irish, "Down East" New England, "Kennedyesque", Chicago, Mid-West Farm, Standard British, Polish[...]"
ProfASA
sraelisk 2 years ago
On one hand you're right in that yes learning a language properly is through immersion. That can't be denied. On the other hand though, one can greatly improve how they use your mouth and vocals to produce certain sounds which would generally not be present within their own language or they might pronounce differently. For example, when I started learning Spanish, I found the b/v sound hard /ß/ but then I learnt how to do that. Likewise for the French 'u' /y/.
Naddlem 2 years ago
Bibo bebo!!
MaBu888 2 years ago
I'm able to pronounce several English accents perfectly, without speaking to any Americans or English people.
MaBu888 2 years ago
Mihi augens, amice carissime! Specta!
MaBu888 2 years ago
saxquiz -
You don't have to apply everything he's talking about in order to come close to "sounding right" when using a foreign language. If a German guy has a slight accent when speaking Italian - who cares ? This is interesting nontheless.
SonicMountain 2 years ago
I dont know who told you majoring in linguistics was supposed to help you learn a language anyway. Linguistics a discipline that describes a language holistically. From speech sounds-- like what the professor is going over-- to word order etc. It's not going to make you a more competent speaker of a give language-- it's not supposed to, just aware of what is going on when you speak a language and by being aware you tend to notice mistakes, which I think is what the professor was getting at.
t12acks 2 years ago
You need only listen to certain people speaking your language to answer that question. I know people who 'know' English perfectly. They have spoken it for years. They understand the grammar and how to put words together better than native speakers. Yet, when listening to them, they are nearly impossible to understand because of their impossibly heavy accent. That's where phonetics can be of great use.
christocr 2 years ago 4
Bravo for the professor. Good info, sounds a little like a robot, but that is okay.
robertogan 2 years ago
You're really great, professor, you always deliver highly interesting information, can't wait for the next part.
paulkiss1981 2 years ago 8
Very interesting professor
laoshu505000 2 years ago 3
I'm really exited about your videos. Can't wait for the next one!
anne241163 2 years ago
well i have to say that it is really cool to see there are people with alot of time on their hands to do videos of some crazy funny stuff.
chick5581 2 years ago
The international phonetic alphabet is lacking. But it's the best we have so far. As far as I know. Good video 5*
orangelixir 2 years ago
As a student of both Arabic and Old Norse, I have no choice but to salute you on your intelligent choice of phonemes demonstrated. *grin* I was already looking forward to more Indo-European ear-candy, but IPA is undeniably something that any serious language learner (especially one equipped only with the knowledge provided by certain school systems) should master.
TheDarkPan 2 years ago 2
Nice. Don't forget the affricates. Those are some of my favorite IPA symbols.
argentum81 2 years ago
I love that you touched on dialects. You did a pretty good job with the different English accents. That's something I'm interested in. I learned of a dialect coach who worked with actors a lot and I thought that would be a really neat job. Where would a person start if they wanted to pursue such a career or at least acquire those skill sets? Would it be phonetics to begin? Does the study of phonetics include dialects?
jonmahoney04 2 years ago 4
The perfect place to start would be with the series "Acting with an Accent" by Dr. David A. Stern. He provides training for over a score of accents, covering both regional native English accents and various foreign accents in English.
ProfASAr 2 years ago
That looks like a pretty good book. I'll look into it. It seems to be out of print. Have you heard anything about Accents: A Manual for Actors by Robert Blumenfeld?
xXxcatxloverxXx 2 years ago
It is not a book - it is a series of recordings to train actors to use the following dialects or foreign accented English: New York City, American Southern, West Indian/African, Spanish, Italian, French, German, Russian, Yiddish, Australian, Texas, Boston, British North Country, Cockney, Scottish, Irish, "Down East" New England, "Kennedyesque", Chicago, Mid-West Farm, Standard British, Polish, Norwegian/Swedish, Arabic, Farsi (Persian)
They are still readily available and highly recommended.
ProfASAr 2 years ago
Cool, I found it. I'm taking a look at some of them. Seems like a decent place to start. What about getting into the theory of it and understanding what the difference between different sounds is?
jonmahoney04 2 years ago
very interesting, thanks for posting :)
xoxtotgeliebt483xox 2 years ago
very impressive
snowblanco 2 years ago 2
Deep knowledge linguistic professor
daveyork0 2 years ago 2
Excellent video, looking forward to part 2.
Amaglev 2 years ago
Great video :) I hope you wll show the rest of the IPA later like the one with stress and tone and co-articilation consonants like French ɥ Labial-palatal approximant as in and uniqe Swedish ɧ Voiceless palatal-velar fricative as in ''sju'' and the clicks, ejectives and implosives . I am looiking foward for all your prounonciation tips :)
All love
Eopyk 2 years ago
Woaw, that was really interesting - looking forward to the next ones..
Mibis89 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this! I'm a bit in a hurry now, but since I'm interested in languages in general, I will def. check this series out!
I'm looking forward to it!
Valvallaria 2 years ago 2
I feel smart watching these videos.
nlitement 2 years ago 4
first view wooooot
ZiaInvictus 2 years ago