Patient Abuse Caught On Tape Labelled 'Torture' - DISTURBING - BBC BREAKFAST - June 1, 2011

[girlygirlyblonde]

THAT SCUMBAG WAYNE AND ALL THE OTHERS MUST OF THOUGHT THEY'D GET AWAY WITH DOING THIS COS THEIR VICTIMS WERE DISABLED/AUTISTIC OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY HAVENT, IM SO GLAD THE WHOLE WORLD WAS ABLE TO SEE WHAT WENT ON AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL GIVE WAYNE A GOOD BEATING!!!!

[SilentSlumber3]

Fuck me, this is absolutely awful. What disgusting people. I can't believe I hadn't heard of this story until today.

People who can inflict violence upon the vulnerable - or in fact even comprehend it - have no place on this planet, let alone society. Those that knew this was happening and did nothing should also be punished accordingly.

It makes me think that Hitler wasn't exceptionally evil, only exceptionally powerful.

[Brixham0Bird]

THIS MAKES ME SICK. As an autistic person myself if anyone did that to me i would batter them D:

They need to be locked up for a LONG time.

[harpstrings1060]

OMG and these people didn't ask to be born just to put up with it

[disabilityrights2012]

Little shits.Disabled people have rights.I think the people who did this are sick.

[human0un]

this shit happens more often than it doesnt...from abuse in nursing homes and psych wards...there is no law in these places and abuse happens behind closed doors and the law is kept out...the staff makes them nuts and jacks them..these people absuing these patients are the same ones giving them drugs..who knows what in the hell they are giving them

[human0un]

places where abuse does not occur are aminority

[human0un]

if the patients fight back then im sure they are given an overdose then restrained foe 13 hours straight

[SplashSplashFixnaut]

I live in Bristol and after watching this I feel ashamed and embarrassed to live here... this was disgusting.

[socialworkerstudent1]

Very disturbing, I thought I was goin 2 be sick at certain points! how could this abuse have gone on for so long? Alarming is not a strong enough word to describe my thoughts on the CGC for failing to follow up claims of abuse. I wish Simon, Simone and all the other innocent people who suffered at the hands of those monsters a bright future and hope they receive the respect and dignity they deserve - as for the 'staff' who tortured them mentally and physically I hope they rot in jail

[Rachulie]

lol "learning disabilities" i have a.d.d. THAT'S a learning disability. these ppl are retarded, just say that. i guess it makes the parents feel better idk

[DeeNomilk]

i swear to god if that was someone i knew that was getting abused, id be in juvenile prison by now

[theoriginalzippy607]

Terry Bryan the whistleblower is my uncle.

[KeithTHORNZ]

FUVCKIN HELL IM FLABBERGASTED!

I F THIZ AYNT DA FUNYEST THING SHIT EVERZ I DUNNO WOTIZ. DA FUUNEREST THING

EVRE SEEN

IF IT WASNT PEEPL WHOZ BEEN PUNISHED BY GOD ID SAY IT WUZ BANGOUT OF ORDERER, BUT THINKIN OF REFLECTIONS ONNIT IZ THAT IZZES THE BESTEST COIMURDY GOLD EVER!

AND THEY R SINNERS IN THE THE EYES OF GOD N HODDLE! SO ITZ OK I FEEEL, OK?

[cjthomas89]

"Where's the therapy in any of this?" There isn't ANY therapy, at all!

[mrbonzille]

not many things shock me but remeber watching this think if i had been undercover reporter i would have ended up battering the scum

[jb55101]

i wish i could be there when them basterds watch the movies and see that they where caught .

[2b3n4m5q7]

Theres no mention of owner Castlebeck's liability.

By closing the hospital theres an admission of guilt by Castlebeck, whos directors deserve to be prosecuted for cheapening the quality of staff.

The employer placed the onus on Health Care Assistants and allowed working practices to become accepted and condoned.

They failed to use matrons and supervise staff.

There wouldn't have been such problems if there were properly trained nurses e.g. compared to NHS Nurses.

[jb55101]

the parents should have sued there ass big time wish they would hit me shit .

[ThisUserNameUnknown]

Wtf is this? How can u say you didn't know? Bullshit!!! These poor defenseless people I hope there no long term damage done from these fuckers. One day they will need someone to tend to their needs. Hopefully they have a 10 fold coming their way!

[woma0neater]

ARE YOU FUCKIN SERIOUS A SUSPENSION???? how about jail time the justice system is fucked...btw isnt that secret filming shit illegal? just curious, was for a good cause

[erehgregrhegrhegr]

OMG! that is really disturbing. How is no one believed them when they said they were being abused? I have just finished a pre employment training coarse on health and social care (got an interview for UBU on Monday) and they have told us that one of the most important and one the best things you can do for the clients is LISTEN to them. These people shouldn't have to put up with this GET THEM OUT OF THERE and send the twats to prison.

[LearnToReadTheKuran]

Suspended ... lol

These people need to be dragged into the middle of the streets and flogged until their backs bleed.

They will think real hard come another time they want to lay their hands on the less fortunate ...

[Tightbutthole99]

Haha

[008Sajid800]

Hmm, why do we hear mental hospitals are places of abuse and torture so often...

[Nikkii199045]

wttff i hope all of there dicks an tits were cut off fuckn sick an ungratefull cunts!

[hereforever66]

scumbags !!!

[ma3dba3ll]

some one with the info about those attackers...like where they live and such...email me at onecause4onemission@yahoo.com and i will see to it that they have to eat their food through an iv.

[Helios601]

Horrendous stuff, but if care staff were paid decent money in a professional qualified role, this stuff wouldn't happen. Most of them do a good job and are often under paid and under valued. No excuses ofcourse.

[tran5990]

this is so horrible >.>

[gulfrazthehunk1]

I WOULD LOVE TO BUMP INTO ONE OF (OR ALL) THE STAFF MEMBERS AND COMPLETELY RUIN THEIR FACES

[Chupaskabra45]

fucking inhumane fascist losers. they deserve to have their genitalia mutilated and fed to them. as well has to have their hands sewn together so they cant hurt anymore innocent people who only deserve fair treatment.

[mrdelkimtxi]

WANKERS!!!!!!!!

[TheMissDawson]

what the fuck this shit is awful.Come on bitch dont fucking do that to desabled people.

thats just too fucking cruel..IM FUCKING SPEECHLESS

[quantumcreep]

How about lobotomizing the staff then pulling the same shit on them? Seems reasonable enough to me.

[SuperWildsnorlax]

Somebody please drop me off by that place so I can beat the shit outta every staff.

[Xyan11]

Wow thats soooo fucken stupid How can they do that to people specially with a disability! that pisses me off soo much

[samisabeyy2011]

how can they fucking do that to vulnerable people they already have issues don't fuck about with them for fuck sake...hitting,punching,slappi­ng,trapping and even breaking there limbs and bones won't make them feel better will it and it definaltey won't teach them anything. so fucking lay off the people that need help ain't it :/ how can they do that fucking sick bastards hope they go die in a hole or shag a sheep and get squirrel aids.

[emilio5432]

these fucking sick bastards that did this need stinging alive and made to feel the same pain that they have coursed the video mad me sick

[HappyHooker83]

HELL FUCKING NO! My baby brother has a learning disorder. I'll be damned!

[nasss15]

staff suspended ?????? wtfffffffffffff .. hang those motherfuckers ... THEY SHOULDNT LIVE THEY DONT DESERVE TO LIVE

[fraserrotchford]

@kitkat6026 well said.

What's even creepier is the video that doesn't get shown of "normal" institutions.

[angelaw130]

all i can say is disgusting.....them suppose to be carers should have it done to themselves see how they like that....sick pigs

[nopointinlife231986]

sick fuckers!! why do something like that!! my wife works with adults with learning disabilities and she was so upset at the thought of anyone doing this to them!! it is worng they should recive the same tourture those poor people went through!!!

[DuggyJ027]

was lost for words when i watched this , and what is even more unreal is that just about all the care workers are doing it and not just one , does that not make anyone wonder what is going on in other care homes as we speak? And that Wayne is meant to be a senior care worker , who employs these people? And the night man who checks up , he stood and laughed , somethings not right!

[AnimeAspieFanatic]

Watching that sick fucker twist that child's ear and smack him around gave me the strongest urge to kill someone with NO remorse. This is SICKENING AND TWISTED. I hope these FILTH-MONGERS rot in hell until the end of life as we know it.

[chigatumadrexxx]

fucking sick twat cunts should get life in prison.

[RobDiaz97]

thats sick the bastards should get beaten up

[xxnoonaxx]

SICK TWATS.

[ThePopPrincess2010]

i cant believe this avtualy happens..

[radiodj1520]

I Believe This Was A Video Clip Of BBC-TV's BBC News' Breakfast's Report On Patient Abuse Caught On Tape Labelled 'Torture' - Disturbing On Wednesday Morning, June 1, 2011.

[sapgreatgun]

How can they behave like tat? Put those bastards in jail and beat them all day..feeling vary sad abt d patients n ter parents..

With prayers...

Indian...

[Torijay09]

They should name everyone of them staff so the twats can get what's coming to them if anyone did that to my daughter I kill them slowly evil bastards

[8757kathy]

these nurses are sick especially the tatooed one i hope they go to jail,but they will probably get another job in a care home somewhere else bastards

[061zgz]

Poor people..:s

from Spain

[TWINSTARXTREME]

We should lock those fruitcakes up! I would love to abuse them and make them feel helpless and scared...that would give me so much joy....I would make them feel like little retarded psychos.....ten they would know the foul sin they created..haha ahahaha ahhhhaaahahahahahahahaahah!

[MrChristophe156]

I really wish that was in Northern Ireland , the bastards would've been kneecapped by now .

[AdreaStar]

This is so sick, I worked as a caregiver for the last 6 years and never ever imagined treating my clients like this! Where are the background checks? These people are looking after very vulnerable people! I hope the abusers get seriously dealt to!

[JamesGotALeg]

1:03 for retard pwnage

[solariscity]

Я в этой стране давно живу и хорошо знаю местное население. Не стоит судить о британцах по данной информации - это не вся правда!

Люди они конечно скрытые, но не жестокие. Полиция и суды всегда на стороне бедных и максимально защищают криминал. Вот увидите, никто из медицинского персонала НЕ БУДЕТ наказан!

Британские тюрьмы как наши санатории)))

[DeeDee1957]

Castlebeck, you are in receipt of those people's incapacity benefits, I believe, for the compassionate care and board you give them, I hope that little scam of yours is going to end soon.

[heartlezz13]

This makes my blood boil! I simply cannot comprehend how ppl can be so cruel to someone weaker than them, and i would like to know what needs "further investigation"? I don't see a fight between two people, i see supposed caretakers abusing the ppl they are supposed to care about!

[anonuevo66]

bad people

[daz1387]

Castlebeck (Guantanemo UK) squirming now because panorama got onto them.. They were'nt so concerned before with the complaints..Scum. And the regulator was forced to bring his nose up from his non-job trough and squirm. When there's a real chance thier nice little earner jobs are on the line, they squirm alright.. Slimy self serving cowards

[KillahTrax]

If this happened to someone from my family,i'm gonna personally torture them,i a ways he/she wouldnt even imagine existed.They are so deffenceless,its like kicking a 3-4 year old kid.Shame,this is happening in all countries.

[ZkaAnimation]

Bristol for ya ;)

[SharkDude1]

This is pure abuse. Send all these people (Even the owners) to jail and close down this place(s) now!!!

[kitkat6026]

@SharkDude1 please believe this is not the norm,i work with learning disabilities and they live in a beautifull home with caring staff they are treated with respect and compasion, i love working there and its not like a job its a joy to go to work....

[renn1823]

Ok this is to timeoftroubles and madhatter0110.......I'm actually in shock! how can you both sit there and say basically 'more evidence' is needed, oh i'm sorry clips of abuse! and yes it is abuse! and not 'self defence' aren't good enough for you! Yes it's true staff do need to ensure their own safety, but from what's been shown, that's not self defence!! I feel disgusted, just think what these people and their families are going through right now! Shame on you both!!!!!

[madhatter0110]

@renn1823 The clips are only part of the story not the complete story. Staff have the same rights to their personal safety and well being as the residents/patients. This video is merely propaganda to wrongfully demonize patient care.

[renn1823]

@madhatter0110 If you read my last comment then you would see that I put that staff do need to ensure their own safety, of course they do. But how is that video showing the staff in self defence? Justify that man standing on that womans arm! Justify that man hitting the boy around the face! Yes it's true the video didn't show everything, but to be quite honest I personally didn't need to see anymore, if you can't see that those clips show abuse then quite frankly you are blind!

[madhatter0110]

@renn1823 You have no clue the events and circumstances that occur before and after the clip. It is you who are truly blind to the truth because you are confined to only accepting what people with a hidden agenda against patient care put before you. This video is pure propaganda and out of pride you just can't bring yourself to admit it.

[renn1823]

@madhatter0110 Oh I'm sorry! you are sooooo right! I don't know what happened 'just before' or 'just after' the clips, but the bloody staff laughing in the background says it all really!!! Oh my god! what's wrong with you! You make me sick! You should be ashamed, it's people like you who are going to back people like these getting a whole new life! :( Shame on you.

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 it is u who need to research more,u say careres need to be able to defend themselves,ok well yes a carer needs to learn how to avoid and minimise actions against them.and also how to "protect" themselves without causeing harm,but in this clip and the whole program there was not any of this. only sadistic behaviour from those who were meant to give care in a 2011 home not a mental asylum of the past...... or a torture chamber

[madhatter0110]

@kitkat6026 You are willfully disregarding that these people have conditions which they sometimes or consistently have no control over. Those caring for these individuals cannot possibly know in advance or prepare for all the unexpected. To compare this video to mental asylums is only a feeble attempt to keep believing what you want to believe instead of the truth.

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 "these people" are human beings who feel pain and have feelings so why should they be treated differently to u or i.in a profesionally run home[yes i know that all are not] they are.and yes u can know in advance and prepare.u twist my words on the subject of asylums something else i know more about than u as i saw first hand how they worked so it is not a feeble attempt on my part to believe propaganda and not the truth.i saw and see the truth with my own eyes

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 u are so eager to believe that this is lies or propaganda that u have become unable to see further and see the truth.i believe that in america chemical restraint ie an injection in the butt is still practiced and c and r[control and restraint] a form of prison guard control over inmates,correct me if i am wrong as it was something i "read" as apposed to on the job experience

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 i wish u could spend a day with me at work to see for your self what i am trying to convay to u about how it can be, then i would show u the whole episode of panorama then show u the asylum near where i grew up and then the historical evedence about that place .the place where as a child i would lay in bed and hear them screaming and moaning and see how they were dressed and see them out with careers tied together ,no teeth with the look of crazy people having been locked away

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 cont..would u compare that to day we have moved on but obviously some havent and see them as sub human as easy targets to ridicule and mock... today for the most part they have more control over thier lives than ever before and like "us" are entitled to basic human respect.

[timeoftroubles]

Short clips don't tell the entire story. Need more evidence before we pass judgement.

[kitkat6026]

@timeoftroubles well i dont know what goes on in the us but slamming down your whole body weight onto a person is not right or healthy in fact it could cause death no excuse what so ever never never never

[timeoftroubles]

@kitkat6026

Of course, and I would never suggest that abuse of the weak is ever permissible. All I'm saying is that several of the bit-clips didn't show much of anything and yet they're being put forward as evidence. Problem is that here in the States the media loves to sensationalize everything and is rarely ever reporting good investigative news. So my perspective is a bit skewed because I have very little faith in the media. Forgive me is I came off as insensitive; that was not my intent.

[kitkat6026]

@timeoftroubles i understand where u are saying about the media,i really do .. the clips on here do not show the whole episode that was shown here,all i can say is that if u saw it u would know,i cried tears of shame that a fellow human could do what i saw.

[madhatter0110]

Some of these Autistic and learning disabled people spontaneously injure themselves and others. Although these clips do not reveal the entire story, there are circumstances where the staff have every right to defend themselves and subdue residents/patients in their care.

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 wrong i work with people who self injure why would i want to hurt them further,they often injure them selves for a reason they have limited communication and all they want is a pain killer or they are hungrey frightened cold to hot needthe toilet u name it u have choice, a voice they dont they are vunerable and dependant on us to care for them and provide their needs. look further than the aggresion for gods sake.good managment good training and respect go a long way,

[madhatter0110]

@kitkat6026 You are willfully disregarding the fact that staffers AND residents have a right to their personal safety and well being. Vulnerable as some residents may be, some can and do commit acts which injure themselves and others whether they are aware of what they are doing or not.

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 how am i willfully disregarding any thing,i have first hand knowledge of what can happen. do u advocate that i torture people or try to understand what led to this act and try an iliminate some of the cause.if u work within guidelines risk assesments and care plans u minimise risks .also a lot of these behaviours are learnt from years of abuse from the old institution system especially the older ones do the younger ones need to live in fear and use what they have learned??

[kitkat6026]

@madhatter0110 i worked with a very disabled young lady once who i thought was so brain damaged she wasnt able to communicate at all one day by accident while doing up the zip on her jacket my hand slipped and i cought her under her chin and she cried out, i said sorry a couple of times and rubbed her chin and she smiled at me ,this from a girl who could do nothing for her self or talk makes u wonder doesnt it,every one feels pain not just the "normal"

[LeeJ2512]

bring back the FUCKING DEATH SENTENCE

[sangolt88]

I hope all the people involved in this, including those who failed to report on this abuse, get hard and long jail-times.

[doc7474]

I'm glad they caught the people doing this. We need to weed out these criminals from society.

[flickelly]

Wayne Rodgers, 23, Purton Close, Kingswood, Bristol. BS 15 9ZE, UK. are you the one with the tattoos, torturing these poor souls in your care? if you are you've been GOOGLED.

[stckytree]

@flickelly Er. I'm all for 'name and shame' but I dont think you should post peoples addresse -, it could be a different wayne rogers, or his previous address, or whatever. Or he could later move house, but the address remains on the internet and the next occupant of the place is harassed...

[Kyraniela]

that is so rank. everyone is equal man.

[claire311000]

I am so sad to see this.  I went to school with one of the senior carers and I am disgusted to think that some one I once knew that was a nice person could turn into such a venomous evil human being. How would they of felt being left to shiver outside in the freezing cold. Watching this made me feel sick to my stomach to think those people had no way to get help when they were hurting.

[Elvisofaces]

Beyond Terrible!!!

[britturk123]

Congratulations to panorama brilliant programme making, and investigative journalism at its best. I cried in apsolute disgust, but we need to know the evils that go on in the private sector, not that the private sector is all evil but this film proved that it can be self evasive and arrogant when needs be.

[aliinottingham]

@TheOfficialLolGuy Mate asif you said that when this type of shit happens all over the world and america is well known for having notorious serial killers, you are an idiot.

[eImalomeIIeva]

english people likes torturing others

[sarlokkin]

And what does it mean to have a 'learning disability'? If you get rid of the psychiatric discourse the only thing that remains is disobedience; they do not obey, they do not learn the orders. Really, humanity is an animal in denial.

[watchmen30]

@sarlokkin These abused people are CHILDREN. They are in big bodies, but they are CHILDREN. Picture your two, or three, or four year old being treated like that.

Castlebeck made a £31.3m profit on £85.2m revenues in the year to December 2009. If Lee Reed is really sorry perhaps he could donate this money to learning disability charities. The idea that 'for profit' organisations drive up standards and can easily be regulated by government bodies such as a toothless CQC is deeply flawed.

[sarlokkin]

@watchmen30 I can't comment on the second part of your reply right now. But to reply on the first:

What are you insinuating? I do not justify these acts of violence, I condem them. I find it shocking to see these acts of violence on those who can not defend their selves. This violence is inherent to psychiatry, why are these grown up children locked up? Because they are a little different? Probably because they FAIL to UNDERSTAND the rules of violence of this so called civilized world.

[watchmen30]

@sarlokkin Apologies there was no insult intended. I find it hard to turn this into an academic exercise however. This is about duty of care not cognitive ability. I believe they are locked up because it turns a profit for them to be locked up. People at home do it for free and with love and where is the profit in that. £3500 pound of public money per week per head. £31.3m profit on £85.2m revenues. if that profit had been spent on, oh I don't know. To provide help and care at the family home.

[sarlokkin]

@watchmen30 They are human beings, what right do we have to place them below ourselves?

[KDidesxo]

@watchmen30 Donating all of it is quite excessive but I could see a portion of it. Of course more than an issued apology and investigation should be offered -- these people were abused.

The problem with these kinds of facilities is that often times the founder has the best of intentions but when they grow to be too large it's hard to manage every single facility.

[GrafitiWall]

Those peoples brains have gone and fucked off

[sarlokkin]

This is the visible violence against those labeled 'patient'; the violence itself was always there.

[OTHsmallvillefan]

@TheOfficialLolGuy im sure this goes on all over the world

[thedoctorisaborofan]

I was sick what I saw

[jadeesmith]

Sick b*astards.

[Warmsunset26]

Good for you BBC Panarama.

Really not nice.

Would N O T like that to happen to my Mom.

To a degree it's being 'cruel' to a being that does not have a voice.

Any different to being cruel to animals??????

[faceyfaceface]

@TheOfficialLolGuy

a few bad people and you judge an entire country? IDIOT.

[1212nur]

@faceyfaceface oh yh? join the club. less than 1% of the muslim population is engaged in terrorist acitivity, yet the religion as a whole is being judged.

[Kizerboy444]

@1212nur this has nuffing to do with religion wth

[1212nur]

@Kizerboy444 im refering to stereotyping a whole group, on actions of individuals.

[PetroCyber]

@faceyfaceface

Heyyy... the brits kills millions of the fake indian, true indian, aborigin, etc...

[jojo201145]

OH GOD,This is so heart broking why why and why.

We kill eachother we eat eachother we abuse eachother and at the end we call our sellf a human .God keep them in the safe place.

[rahfs11]

The private sector in action, coming soon to an NHS hospital near you.

[arquzic]

i know let brake there legs soo there disabled and then we can treat them lkike shit i swear to god i wanna kill all them staff people

[Wellgot]

this needs to be seen. we need to take a long hard look. care homes of all types are prone to this.

[britturk123]

Ashamed to be british last night, i just hope those thugs get several years in prison each, May god danm them. Tatood thugs and fat lazy yobo women running a care home, they had no humanity no understanding and apsolutely no compassion. The management of this home who were also told of the evil goings on yet failed to act, deserve to be hung up too. The way they fronted the camera last night with apolagies at hand made my stomach turn, simply PATHETIC.

[kitt998]

i cannot articulate how angry this makes me.

these cowards should feel the full force of the law. I can only hope that they read this comment when i say "you are a shame to humanity"

[cadstic]

every member of staff doing harm or watching it happen. my god i work in this industry and i would have called the police . this is evil,

[Kevinwilshaw]

A think they should be moved to America in given the death penalty cause they cunts don't deserve to live after that.honestly whats going to happen to them.........a slap on the wrist cause the justice system is fucking joke!!!!!!!!!!!

[coomby]

These people have only been arrested just now for their own personal safety, no way could the police have left them on the streets after this program aired on tv,they will receive beatings for the rest of their miserable lifes for sure and every single hit will be well deserved.

[missseonaiona]

A disgrace to humanity. I read that the annual turnover for this business is £90 MILLION a year. Someone somewheres getting extremelly rich whilst vunrable people are being tortured and abused. It's beyond a disgrace. The whole care industry has to be looked at and changed. Care homes should not be a business. It's disgusting that this went unnoticed, major fail. The staff are unqualified they and the owner should be made accountable.

[bigs31uk]

now a disgracefull and callus bunch of well hard wannabe.s who had no reason to treat these people this way will get there own treatment if they get locked up .;o) then theyll think back and regret it so so bad,.......

[kiwianagirl100]

get these support workers on trial, open and shut case, stop this abuse!

[searfleshjoywear]

The Staff of the facility should be tried as the most violent and cruel offenders these days.I do not support the death sentence but in a case like this i think it would be justified.My heart breaks for the unsuspecting parents and the victims of these fucking cunts who should either rot away in prison for the rest of their life (which they never deserved in the first place)or until the time they would realize what theyve done and eventually be crushed by themselves wishing they were never born.

[gregapage]

I nearly vomited. Disgraceful beyond measure. How on Earth can the skum in the video sleep at night?

[searfleshjoywear]

I have been a patient in several institutes that deal with kids who have learning disabilities (from autism to adhd and everything in between) but despite a number of very bad experiences i can still say that the contrast between one institution and another can be blinding.This footage however shows the most disgusting and disgraceful acts of the sadistic and in no way justified behaviour of those who are payed to care for people like us.

[hlz6234]

A complete disgrace in this day and age