OK.. CLEARLY coolsweetgroovy must be related to Carol Kaye, because he/is is hitting up multiple Jamerson threads and slagging him. You know WHY Carol Kaye has gotten dissed by Jamerson fans? Because for years Carol has tried to lay claim to many of his classic performances. It's disrespectful to a man who's been dead for over 25 years and can't defend his legacy. I'll believe the word of the producers and other musicians over her's any day. Enough already .....
Hank Cosby who co-wrote, produced it, and who, in his own words, "was there every step of the way from the writing of the song to the day the 45's were shipped", vehemently denied any participation by Carol Kaye on this recording. Cosby added, "Fifty percent of the song was James Jamerson's bass line. No one played like that but Jamerson." Cosby also signed an affidavit similar to Brian Holland's attesting to Jamerson's performance.
This is a really good cover and Carol Kaye kicked ass on bass P.S. Carol actually played bass on an early cut on the Stevie Wonder orginal but Motown erased her off the track and put Jamerson on instead Damm you Berry Gordy Carol Kaye Bass Legend
@coolsweetgroovy they did not erase her. she never played on the original at all. and if they did erase her it was b/c she sucked and jj could give them that motown funk sound
@coolsweetgroovy dAMN berry gordy was not a racist have you ever heard of the funk brothers? they had white people in the band. sorry to break it to you but not even the black musicians got credit so it isnt racist
@coolsweetgroovy so a racist hires people they hate? you dont know anything about motown history if gordy was such a racist why was rare earth signed to a record deal with motown? why did the motown revue got to england to per form for whites? why was bob babit the replacement foe james jamerson? honeslty you ned to reaccess you definition of a racist
@mjjcng8958 Ok whatever what I meant is that Berry Gordy only is racist because like I said the only white person givencredit for being one of the funk brothers is some dude named Bob Babbit
@coolsweetgroovy still not racist. berry gordy had nothing to do with giving credit to any of the funk brothers black or white. if carol kaye ever apart of motown recordings dont you think the producers of the songs she clamed would remember her. if berry gordy was so racist why did he sign teena marie to his record label? honestly think about it
@coolsweetgroovy Two bigs hits like "Get Ready", "(I Know I'm) Losing You", "I Just Wanna Celebrate", "Born to Wander", "Big John is My Name"...those two?
@coolsweetgroovy Joe Messina never received any credit? Nor Dennis Coffey? Nor Jack Brokensha...One should do their homework before making unfounded accusations...
@hollidayevery Joe and Dennis are other white musicians that received credit and were latter-day Funk Brothers...Someone claimed that Bob Babbit was the only white musician to received label credit from Motown...
Sorry there are some classics that should be re-rcorded and some that shouldn't and this definitely one of them. This must have been their down time when Bryan was trying to get Smile put together while suffering a nervous breakdown..
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My main criticism of Wild Honey(which I do think is very good) is the overall sound on all the songs. The album isn't very dynamic in it's sound presentation...it's very dull and seems constricted if not uninspired. There is a definite static-ness present that was just another sign of Brian's debilitation.
@jwild611 Nah, it wasn't down to that... it was deliberately so. It was meant to be stripped down and simplistic. But to fair, I'd love to hear "Aren't You Glad" with real Brian Wilson production values.
@Karateworm "It was meant to be stripped down I didn't say it wasn't. This was also true for Smiley Smile. But with "WIld Honey" the band really needed it to sell well to keep afloat which it didn't quite do. Therefore the static sound production is definitely a factor and like I stated it was just yet an other sign of Brian's meltdown. While peoplenow have learned to value it higher in 1967 the reaction shouldn't of been surprising "theres some nice songs...but from Pet Sounds to this?!?!"
I'm laying to rest everyone's confusion here (including mine). I asked a friend who works with recording studio equipment to strip this song to the vocals,and yes they do say "I was made to love her." The speedy jumbled delivery of the chorus vocals gives one the unintended aural illusion that they sing "you SOB." But whether you hear the bonafide lyric or the lyric as some folks have incorrectly heard it, it doesn't alter the prideful boast about how the singer feels about his gal.
They may well be singing "you son of a bitch," and I'm not really sure why it's there, or if it really fits, unless it's meant to be a defiant way of stating "This is how I feel about this girl, and if you don't like it, tough." Stevie Wonder never complained about it, so I'm guessing he found it a-ok too. I think both versions are wonderful in their own different ways. Why nitpick? There's room for both. Can't wait for Bob Dylan's version.
The definitive version of this song is on the boot "Smiley Smile and Wild Honey - Stereo", btw.... considerably longer, even more so than the Rarities one!
@blessthedollar Are you joking? Alright, then stfu and throw on some Stevie Wonder. I don't want to see posts relative to Stevie Overrated Wonder on a Beach Boys vid. I'd much rather see on topic comments, even if they were negative.
I always heard "son of a bitch" as well. Never could figure out why that was in there...Then a friend of mine was singing along and he sang ( and I quote) "Yes I was made to love her"..and I knew that was what they were saying..try it..it fits.
The guys were beginning to record at Brian's home studio at this time....along with the album "Friends" ...."Sunflower" later and were playing most of the stuff ...not using the studio musicians, probably based on financial reasons as much as anything. It was expensive to rent the old studio crowd....the sound that comes from these albums is totally different....not as "slick"...much more raw...as in actually recording it themelves...without just doing the vocals over the studio players sound.
You can't beat the Beach Boys saying "You son of a bitch." With Brian's and (others in the groups) bizarre sense of humor, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.
The Beach Boys mostly played their own instruments on this album, barring horns, etc. The bass should be played by Brian, or Bruce, or Carl or Al, probably Brian or Bruce, probably not Carol Kaye. Hal Blaine was listed as present for this session, tho' the drums could be Dennis on this one (you can hear him on "Darlin'"). Carl tears it up on this. I would love to hear a live version, where he cut loose even more.
I recently read in my Beach Boys encylopaedia that Ray or Roy Brown was listed as, or did, play some bass on Wild Honey album, possibly this track. Also, Hal Blaine is listed as present for this song, tho' most historians agree it's Dennis on Darlin', and there's little reason it couldn't be him on this one. Bruce sometimes played bass, and Carl was multi-faceted. But this album was meant to be their back to basics job, where they played the main instruments as a self-contained rock/pop unit.
the vocal's a bit rough, but i've always loved this version. And i too thought they were saying "you son of a bitch you love her"! thanks for posting.
But he's trying to do his own version. There's a sort of vulnerability about this version. He's singing at his 'break' but nevertheless he's still going for those high notes. Different.
what a weird freakin cover...valiant attempt by them, but they get exposed vocally singing this...this kinda sounds like the beach boys impersonating the rolling stones doing stevie wonder...i dont know about this one
For some reason I thought the lyrics were "You son a bitch, I was made to love her" I had to listen closely and it said "you said I was made to love you. You son of a bitch would have made a better lyric lol.
0:06 "you son of a bitch"
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Benefit1970 3 weeks ago
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LeCroyant777 6 months ago in playlist MISC
this is abviously her. so why in the hell if she played on the original is this one completely different from the original? d
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
OK.. CLEARLY coolsweetgroovy must be related to Carol Kaye, because he/is is hitting up multiple Jamerson threads and slagging him. You know WHY Carol Kaye has gotten dissed by Jamerson fans? Because for years Carol has tried to lay claim to many of his classic performances. It's disrespectful to a man who's been dead for over 25 years and can't defend his legacy. I'll believe the word of the producers and other musicians over her's any day. Enough already .....
megavega4 7 months ago
Hank Cosby who co-wrote, produced it, and who, in his own words, "was there every step of the way from the writing of the song to the day the 45's were shipped", vehemently denied any participation by Carol Kaye on this recording. Cosby added, "Fifty percent of the song was James Jamerson's bass line. No one played like that but Jamerson." Cosby also signed an affidavit similar to Brian Holland's attesting to Jamerson's performance.
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klisher 8 months ago
Stevie Wonder Was Singing Just Before The Beach Boys
gibsosgerbil 8 months ago
The Beach Boys never said you son of a bitch not surprised this is coming from James Jamerson fans
coolsweetgroovy 8 months ago
Again Carol Kaye gets dissed by fans of James Jamerson P.S. Hey Jamerson fans Leave Carol alone
coolsweetgroovy 8 months ago
This is a really good cover and Carol Kaye kicked ass on bass P.S. Carol actually played bass on an early cut on the Stevie Wonder orginal but Motown erased her off the track and put Jamerson on instead Damm you Berry Gordy Carol Kaye Bass Legend
coolsweetgroovy 8 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy they did not erase her. she never played on the original at all. and if they did erase her it was b/c she sucked and jj could give them that motown funk sound
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 That's actually true Damm Berry Gordy is racist
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy dAMN berry gordy was not a racist have you ever heard of the funk brothers? they had white people in the band. sorry to break it to you but not even the black musicians got credit so it isnt racist
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Uh yes Berry Gordy is racist the only white person given credit for being one of the Funk brothers is some dude named Bob Babbit
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy so a racist hires people they hate? you dont know anything about motown history if gordy was such a racist why was rare earth signed to a record deal with motown? why did the motown revue got to england to per form for whites? why was bob babit the replacement foe james jamerson? honeslty you ned to reaccess you definition of a racist
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Yes I do know about Motown history and Mr. Gordy screwed the acts he had P.S. Rare Earth only had 2 big hits
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy and it was no ones fault but their's. serioulsy you need to check your definition of racism against the real definition
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Ok whatever what I meant is that Berry Gordy only is racist because like I said the only white person givencredit for being one of the funk brothers is some dude named Bob Babbit
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy still not racist. berry gordy had nothing to do with giving credit to any of the funk brothers black or white. if carol kaye ever apart of motown recordings dont you think the producers of the songs she clamed would remember her. if berry gordy was so racist why did he sign teena marie to his record label? honestly think about it
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy Two bigs hits like "Get Ready", "(I Know I'm) Losing You", "I Just Wanna Celebrate", "Born to Wander", "Big John is My Name"...those two?
hollidayevery 6 months ago
@hollidayevery ok
coolsweetgroovy 6 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy oh and by the way he didnt even give the blacks in the funk brother credit either so your point of racism is invalid.
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Bob Babbit was the only white given credit for playing with the Funk Brothers hello
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy still invalid.
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Whatever can we atleast agree this is a good cover and a classic?
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy it is alright cover>
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 each to their own favs
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
@coolsweetgroovy Joe Messina never received any credit? Nor Dennis Coffey? Nor Jack Brokensha...One should do their homework before making unfounded accusations...
hollidayevery 6 months ago
@hollidayevery Joe Messina and Dennis Coffey who are they?
coolsweetgroovy 6 months ago
@hollidayevery Joe and Dennis are other white musicians that received credit and were latter-day Funk Brothers...Someone claimed that Bob Babbit was the only white musician to received label credit from Motown...
hollidayevery 6 months ago
man i wish i could love this song but the bass is highly missing. that is what holds the song. horrible reindition.
mjjcng8958 8 months ago
Sorry there are some classics that should be re-rcorded and some that shouldn't and this definitely one of them. This must have been their down time when Bryan was trying to get Smile put together while suffering a nervous breakdown..
joraider08 9 months ago
James Jamerson played with one finger on the Stevie Wonder original. Astounding.
Who new Carl Wilson had so much soul...
javernot 10 months ago
@javernot Do hear the bass going thump thump?(with one finger) no it's Carol Kaye not James Jamerson plus that wouldn't sound right
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
How imperitive it is for DV families to give up their unlawful Encroachments! The lives of the next generation ought not be trespassed. *The love life of sibblings, sons or daughters should not one prevent marriage, it's Unconstitutional.
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Know ancient boundaries & marker.
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dilharaanjani 1 year ago
this song is so awesome.
danny3flip 1 year ago 2
My main criticism of Wild Honey(which I do think is very good) is the overall sound on all the songs. The album isn't very dynamic in it's sound presentation...it's very dull and seems constricted if not uninspired. There is a definite static-ness present that was just another sign of Brian's debilitation.
jwild611 1 year ago
@jwild611 Nah, it wasn't down to that... it was deliberately so. It was meant to be stripped down and simplistic. But to fair, I'd love to hear "Aren't You Glad" with real Brian Wilson production values.
Karateworm 1 year ago
@Karateworm "It was meant to be stripped down I didn't say it wasn't. This was also true for Smiley Smile. But with "WIld Honey" the band really needed it to sell well to keep afloat which it didn't quite do. Therefore the static sound production is definitely a factor and like I stated it was just yet an other sign of Brian's meltdown. While peoplenow have learned to value it higher in 1967 the reaction shouldn't of been surprising "theres some nice songs...but from Pet Sounds to this?!?!"
jwild611 1 year ago
@jwild611 LOL!
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ericcarmenfan 1 year ago
These boys could out sing and out play any band of their time and possibly even now
charpente22 1 year ago
Can I just like both artists, and both versions? Do you really need to pick a side here?
tehmaster690 1 year ago 8
Pretty freakin cool version ! But then, I absolutely love this classic song, & I dig The Beach Boys big-time !!
Thanks for posting.
jbyesterday 1 year ago
great cover
ball6gunns 1 year ago
Vocals *shudders* Why are they butchering Stevie, and gives them the wherewithal to think that this cluttered whining mess is 'okay'? Just terrible
And the bass has NOTHING on the deep, supple warm sound of a *real* James Jamerson bassline.
Takver 1 year ago
I absolutely LOVE Beach Boys from Pet Sounds on. The older stuff is good too, but wow... thier later stuff is way underrated!
CerealTwofish 1 year ago
I'm laying to rest everyone's confusion here (including mine). I asked a friend who works with recording studio equipment to strip this song to the vocals,and yes they do say "I was made to love her." The speedy jumbled delivery of the chorus vocals gives one the unintended aural illusion that they sing "you SOB." But whether you hear the bonafide lyric or the lyric as some folks have incorrectly heard it, it doesn't alter the prideful boast about how the singer feels about his gal.
MrJamesrnolan 1 year ago 3
@MrJamesrnolan I had a friend ask me the same thing after I played it for him in the car one day.
KyProphet 1 year ago
They may well be singing "you son of a bitch," and I'm not really sure why it's there, or if it really fits, unless it's meant to be a defiant way of stating "This is how I feel about this girl, and if you don't like it, tough." Stevie Wonder never complained about it, so I'm guessing he found it a-ok too. I think both versions are wonderful in their own different ways. Why nitpick? There's room for both. Can't wait for Bob Dylan's version.
MrJamesrnolan 1 year ago
they're saying:
"hey hey yes I was made to love her".
badarts 1 year ago 3
The definitive version of this song is on the boot "Smiley Smile and Wild Honey - Stereo", btw.... considerably longer, even more so than the Rarities one!
NyeTunes 2 years ago
stevie wonder is better!!
blessthedollar 2 years ago
@blessthedollar Are you joking? Alright, then stfu and throw on some Stevie Wonder. I don't want to see posts relative to Stevie Overrated Wonder on a Beach Boys vid. I'd much rather see on topic comments, even if they were negative.
TorrinTheGreat 1 year ago
@TorrinTheGreat stevie wonder overrated?? pff.. stupid...
blessthedollar 1 year ago
@blessthedollar You just dun goof'd.
TorrinTheGreat 1 year ago
@TorrinTheGreat overrated my ass.
princegalena 1 year ago 2
soo funky, yeaaaah
Nakkinak 2 years ago 3
I always heard "son of a bitch" as well. Never could figure out why that was in there...Then a friend of mine was singing along and he sang ( and I quote) "Yes I was made to love her"..and I knew that was what they were saying..try it..it fits.
garymichael1950 2 years ago
i never heard "you son of a bitch" in this song... I'm trying and trying to hear it, but it sounds nothing like that to me!
Am I the only one who can't hear it?
It's bugging me!!
MissLeigh78 2 years ago 5
@MissLeigh78 i can't hear it either!
SmileySmileAM 1 year ago 4
@MissLeigh78 just listen to the vocals in the back, not the frontman. ex: 1:24
goofygobber101 4 weeks ago
The guys were beginning to record at Brian's home studio at this time....along with the album "Friends" ...."Sunflower" later and were playing most of the stuff ...not using the studio musicians, probably based on financial reasons as much as anything. It was expensive to rent the old studio crowd....the sound that comes from these albums is totally different....not as "slick"...much more raw...as in actually recording it themelves...without just doing the vocals over the studio players sound.
rustygpate 2 years ago
Wild honey! One of my fave Beach Boys albums! Brilliant! Anyone noticed the bass drop out for a beat @1:11?
dominiccarter77 2 years ago 11
@dominiccarter77 Great ear! What's that about?
lightnweight 8 months ago
youre right he still hitting those high notes
babygenius7 2 years ago
lol when He tried to sing like stevie on the line "my mama boo hood it" It made me chuckle
Blackmace 2 years ago
You can't beat the Beach Boys saying "You son of a bitch." With Brian's and (others in the groups) bizarre sense of humor, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.
SnuffyWuffles 2 years ago
not keen on this redition,strained vocals from Carl,rushed album is the reason why
regentv980 3 years ago
carl does that strained vocal a lot, and i really don't like it.
caats19 2 years ago
I love it!
itsme111478 2 years ago 3
happy birthday dennis wilson
789pequignot 3 years ago 4
i wish james jamerson was still alive...thats all i can say
jockflex24 3 years ago 2
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i like this song better when people who havent had there souls removed played it
jockflex24 3 years ago
Im loving this song. I like the way he's singing on here, he's just letting his heart and soul out.
morracoone 3 years ago 2
The Beach Boys mostly played their own instruments on this album, barring horns, etc. The bass should be played by Brian, or Bruce, or Carl or Al, probably Brian or Bruce, probably not Carol Kaye. Hal Blaine was listed as present for this session, tho' the drums could be Dennis on this one (you can hear him on "Darlin'"). Carl tears it up on this. I would love to hear a live version, where he cut loose even more.
ericebryan 3 years ago 2
I don't think Brian played bass on this. He was more at piano for the album.
mahkindofmusic 3 years ago
I recently read in my Beach Boys encylopaedia that Ray or Roy Brown was listed as, or did, play some bass on Wild Honey album, possibly this track. Also, Hal Blaine is listed as present for this song, tho' most historians agree it's Dennis on Darlin', and there's little reason it couldn't be him on this one. Bruce sometimes played bass, and Carl was multi-faceted. But this album was meant to be their back to basics job, where they played the main instruments as a self-contained rock/pop unit.
ericebryan 3 years ago
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JDIngres 2 years ago
the vocal's a bit rough, but i've always loved this version. And i too thought they were saying "you son of a bitch you love her"! thanks for posting.
ivycompton 3 years ago
Carol Kaye holds her own on the Beach Boys cover, but she can't touch James Jamerson, Bass Legend.
coldfiretc 3 years ago 11
@coldfiretc Who could?
FpMLuser 1 year ago
@coldfiretc It's all for the love of music, no need to compare. Each contributed in their own way.
Hearts64 4 months ago
he tryin but this cant touch Stevie's Version
babygenius7 3 years ago
But he's trying to do his own version. There's a sort of vulnerability about this version. He's singing at his 'break' but nevertheless he's still going for those high notes. Different.
ssss566 3 years ago
Did Carol Kaye play bass on this?
Ariamaluum 3 years ago
@Ariamaluum Yes and on the orginal
coolsweetgroovy 7 months ago
what a weird freakin cover...valiant attempt by them, but they get exposed vocally singing this...this kinda sounds like the beach boys impersonating the rolling stones doing stevie wonder...i dont know about this one
dreambrother80 3 years ago
For some reason I thought the lyrics were "You son a bitch, I was made to love her" I had to listen closely and it said "you said I was made to love you. You son of a bitch would have made a better lyric lol.
musicistheproblem 3 years ago 2
actually the lyrics are "yes i was made to love her"
Havok214 3 years ago
I too thought they were saying "you son of a bitch". I love the song. Both this version and Steve Wonder's.
btw sometimes mischievous background singers actually do um, "improvise".
thestalkinghorse 3 years ago
Beach Boys Soul...:D
bikenik 3 years ago