RVD being champ was okay, he was a huge pick up for TNA. Flair is really only one they ever did that with: Windham, Hennig, Vader, Simmons, Rhodes, Garvin, Race, Funk (okay, Funk was not that recent), all those guys came from another fed as recent world champs & were never given a world title run in WWF.
fuck uuuuu for saying that ecw isn't that popular and besides your a wrestling wannabe and by the way ever say anything negative between i would make ur life a living
I remember that rumble I saw it live in TV and it was good! Also after Flair won that rumble he went agaisnt Macho Man at Mania 8 which was a great match I watch it over 10 times! I remember Ric Flair made a phony pic with him and Elizabeth and two towels with the letters R and L which Ric and Liz but later find out that the real photo had Macho Man and Elizabeth on it so the letters really stands for RANDY and LIZ! great storylines back than!
@Ryan082580 lol, thanks for sharing your story. I always did like the Macho Man/Ric Flair feud. Flair vs. Savage at 'mania 8 is one of my favorite matches of all-time.
I have to say I did not like him winning the title for one reason and that's because it was on tv. The match should've been on ppv. You have AJ Styles, who is a great worker, and Rob Van Dam, who is a great worker, and it's just not right to have this type of match on free television. I guess that's just my opinion. What are your thoughts Spinner?
The only thing that annoys me is that they did not put the title on Jeff Hardy first. But i guess it going too RVD is good for me considering they are both my at the top of my list of Fav's. Give him a year and a half title reign like he had in {Original}ECW {Original}.
RVD won the TNA Championship b/c TNA thinks that having RVD as their World Champ will get them some recognition. I mean, if you think about it, it's really smart. What wrestling fan doesn't know who Rob Van Dam is? A lot of wrestling fans don't know who AJ Styles is.
Good point, Spin. I'm just going to say this: RVD winning the title shouldn't have had as much build up as a regular storyline should. But it kinda was "out of the blue". What I would've done, since RVD is this "huge star", is have AJ Styles and his cocky attitude say that he's had a 6 month title reign and that no one can beat him. I think people are more upset with RVD's debut more than him winning the title. That's just me though.
Holy CRAP Dude all you do is complain, why watch something if your gonna bash! jesus christ WE all know Wrestling's in the shitter right now but some of the shit you say makes no fucking since at all! It's just like your trying to find something wrong with nothing. If it's not broke dont fix it. Jesus christ won the title 2 early, that was one of the best Impacts I ever SAW go RVD!!
Great video spinnernet, and I totally agree wit you. Why cant he be champ already, he bust his ass in ecw and in wwe. He deserves it, and hopefully this means TNA will start going in the right direction. Spinnernet, dont drop to much knowledge on the WWE fan boys, they will come and argue wit you, and how TNA is wrong for whatever, but when WWE does it, its ok. Great video, keep em' coming bro.
I agree with everything you said, RVD has done so much in his career, it would be a little silly to try and built him up if every other promotion already did that.
my problem with the whole rvd becoming champion so quickly in tna has to do with something you did not address. i know rvd is a big name, he definitely deserves the title, but my problem is, when hogan came to tna, the plan was to build up all the tna stars, make all the homegrown stars big and putting the strap on rvd goes against everything tna is trying to do. tna wants to build its home grown talent, but it seems like they arent, they are putting a wwe guy who hasnt wrestled in years on top
@afrochu My point exactly. I love RVD and I think putting the belt on him was great and a good direction for TNA, BUT, it's the exact opposite of what Hogan and Bisch said only a few months ago. It just shows TNA really had continuity issues, and they don't do a very good job of that kind of thing. Not that WWE is great at it either.
People who are complaining that this was on tv and not ppv are retarded. Why pay for a title change when you can see it on tv. It's called giving the fans what they want. There were 2 very good matches (rvd vs hardy/rvd vs aj). Why complain in TNA giving a good show?
yeah, Ric Flair was real popular so when he came to the WWF he was a main eventer right away but i have always wondered this. If a huge name from TNA, a megastar like AJ Styles or Samoa Joe was to come to the WWE would Vince immediately put them in the main event scene or chuck them on NXT and call them rookies and make it seem like no one knows them and they're just learning the ropes lol
Everyone (Most of them TNA Haters) that say RVD won the title too quickly. I can only say to these marks: What about Sheamus ?? He is still for my oppinion a "Rookie" in professional Wrestling, so what did WWE? They gave him the World Title by beating John Cena"
The problem is that it was on tv. TNA should have had Hardy vs. RVD in the main event on iMPACT to decide who is the #1 contender for AJ's belt. Then build up RVD vs Styles for a ppv. Also, if you watched the match RVD was sloppy, AJ was wrestling circles around RVD. I'm sorry, I've followed RVD for almost 10 years and I know RVD is better than what i saw. AJ Styles was busting his ass in that match and for him to lose out of nowhere is ridiculous. Hopefully AJ regains it back at Slammiversery
@24varner I did. But this is AJ Styles. TNA's heart and soul of the company. You would never see this from WWE regarding Cena. In addition, I know that AJ Styles has had a long title reign, so I just assumed when they were ready to take the belt off they would build it up to make it a bigger deal. AJ Styles was a true champion, having the belt on him for 7 months should stand tall when he is finally beaten for it.
@UltimateVictory88 Why does TNA have to do what WWE does? People are already complaining that TNA has become wwe light. TNA doesn't play musical chairs with their world heavyweight title and this actually helps AJ in the long run. It would make his character stronger and motivate him to regain the title. It's too early to complain imo. Sometimes build ups to ppv doesn't work.
i think evan bourne should've gotten a huge push when he was beat by sheamus before the rumble, he should've turned heel and brought back his old on screen manager and girlfriend Lizzy Valentine from wrestling society x, he could've done what john morrison did saying "My name is not Johnny Nitro ....My name is......JOHN MORRRISON", he could've said "I am Matt Sydal" that would've been awesome.
spinnernet i think its cause rvd hasnt wrestled on television for years so people think he had retired. so think about it aj styles got beat by someone who was rusty
My comment on RVD winning the TNA title is that even if they like RVD to win the title, why they celebrate it very much. if you look close to AJ Styles face he was very humilated. No need for such celebration.
@nice010eng A.J. Styles is a heel, why should anyone care if he looked humiliated? he was champ for 7 months, the longest TNA world title reign to date.
@spinnernet1 I know, but my comment on the way that all of the TNA roster ( Hogan, carter, ...) celebrate and congratulate RVD. I still think there was no need for this. It makes you feels that something changed in the TNA career
@spinnernet1 Right, I agree. He should of looked humiliated, he lost to a guy who had a long, great match earlier in the night, and the guy who was champ for 7 months couldnt beat him, its call telling a story. I cant wait to see where TNA goes next.
@nice010eng In all honesty that celebration was not all that big there was what 7,8 guys in the ring. Remember a little pay per veiw called Starrcade where Sting beat Hogan for the World Title Now that was a Celebration.
Ive been on and off with TNA of late but im starting to come around. I think it was right to put the belt on RVD wooo. Great video as normal Spinernet1 !
@daboyofmonkeys10 I really don't think that TNA should push Hardy to the TNA Title until his legal issues are cleared up. He still has a drug trial scheduled and if he goes to jail while he is TNA Champion, then that will make TNA look really bad.
great great great video!!as always,i agree with u.i think some ppl didnt want hm 2 be champ cuz they personally didnt like him?idk,but im happy rvd is tna champ
@crazyworld1234567890 Christian was not a main eventer before he came to TNA he was barely a mid carder when he was in wwe, the time he got the most over when came to TNA in 06, that's why he's so over now.
Rob Van Dam is the first ever that held the TNA Championship, WWE Championship and ECW Championship. if Ric Flair wins the TNA Tittle (but will never happing) he held the TNA Championship, WWE Championship, NWA Championship and the WCW Championship!
RVD was never builr as world championship material in the WWE. He was a solid upper midcarder and his WWE title win in 2006 didn't make alot of sense.
@spinnernet1 I think what Fire means is believability. It wasn't "believable" that RVD won against Cena, even with the extreme rules stipulation and Edge's interference. They really didn't take THAT much advantage of the Extreme Rules stuff, I think one table was used? I'll make a response vid I think, but your video makes a solid argument
@FireWithFire247 he is also the person who combined the european and hardcore titles into the ic title. held both the ecw and wwe championship. RVD is a big deal and has done quite a lot. I honestly wish they would have kept the belt on AJ and kept up that no one could beat him until BFG. Then...Then have RVD finally take the belt off of him.
i agree with you that they pipcked hi up for his name but i would have waited a little bit like towards like sacrafice but i like the idea with RVD because that means some people like rob terry and jeff hardy to get thier title shots because flair and styles is getting boring so i like the RVD world champion storyline
I don't think you can compare RVD's title win to Flair's in 1992, RVD won a title shot on Impact and wins the title later that night, Flair won the title in the Rumble in an absolute classic
I have a prob with RVD winnin cause it happened with very little build. I have no problem with world title changes on TV BUT AJ styles had the world title for over 200 days! If Aj Had the belt for 30 days(Usual WWEtitle/WorldHeavyweight title reings) and lost it on TV it wouldnt bother me. But when you have a Guy hold a belt for over 200 days and loses it on TV it will bother me.
people need to quite bitching about RVD as champ. Why? I would rather have him wear the belt than hall, nash, waltman, hogan, Abyss (as hogans lackey, meaning more hogan t.v. time), etc.
The problem is that RVD isn't as passionate about the business as he used to be and only came to TNA for big money and a light schedule. Is it really wise for TNA to do business with him like that let alone give him the world title? And it just doesn't seem fair for guys in TNA that worked their asses off for years.
By your reasoning shouldn't Booker T and DDP have won the WWF/WWE title soon after they had arrived in WWE in 2001? DDP was put in midcard feuds the rest of his WWE career, despite his accomplishments and mass popularity in WCW. As for Booker T, who was a 5 time WCW Champion, didn't win a "WWE" world title until 06-07.
To people who complain about RVD not being a "legend", do people like him? Is he over? Do people know him? Yes to all these questions. He may not be in the WWE Hall of Fame but he's still a big name. I'm not really for this push but it's not the worst thing to happen.
I predict that Swagger and Orton will feud throughout the summer until Orton beats him at Summerslam for the WHC. I also think that Cena is walking out with the WWE title, but who will be his big summer feud?
Something that bothers me about this PPV is the fact that the Miz is not on it. Not that I'm a big Miz fan, but he's got both the US title and the tag title. Shouldn't one or both of those belts have been on the card? And where is Drew Mcintyre and his IC belt? They should be there!
It just worries me that with Hogan & Bischoff ressurecting WCW that they'd replace TNA originals like AJ & Joe in the same way when Hogan came in to WCW he replaced the likes of Sting & Vader on top of the promotion.
@spinnernet1 I heard that they may be pushing him for the X-division title instead of the world title which is stupid, have Homicide go after Kaz instead!
Lets hope they have Joe vs RVD, Joe is friends with Rob in real life & always has great chemistry with his pals, examples: vs AJ, vs Daniels, vs Punk.
I find it funny that when Jeff Hardy debuted in TNA the IWC kept saying push Jeff hardy to the main event. But when RVD won people kept saying he won too early.
It's still the same in a way both went to different promotions and became World Champion of the respected company with in a short period of time. Kurt Angle to when he want to TNA as well.
Spinner your trying to explain sense to people who wont give TNA any credit it seems, everyone wants to be the booker and has there reason to hate the current storyline.
I doubt most fans know Flair was even in the WWF back in the early 90's and if they do it's doubtful they know what he did there.
Well Spinner its not that he won the title too soon its just that there other people in the company that been there longer than him won deserve the title more than him.
RVD is/was one of the most over superstars in WWE/WWF and has wins over the rock/stone cold, is he a legend and on the same level as them? No, but he is still very much so over and is one of the best high flying wrestlers they have. Why not put the title on an asset as big as RVD? People will complain over anything nowadays I swear... AJ had the title 7 months, he was going to lose it eventually. RVD is over and they put the title on him, so please stop bitching god.
@SpiritWalker14 Well unforetunately the majority of casual wrestling fans don't know about ROH let alone Brian Danielson like the way they knew Ric Flair back in 1991. Samoa Joe & Desmond Wolfe did get major pushes in TNA because TNA fans are more familiar with indie promotions and know about these guys. But I'll give you one thing, WWE is doing a piss poor job promoting Danielson, having the best wrestler in the world lose on NXT all the time is stupid.
I liked RVD but I cant stand seeing wwe stars jump ship to TNA. as a WWE supporter I feel like those stars are turning their backs on me, especially jeff hardy and what he did. RVD is a bit different as he was off for years and wwe didnt have intewrest but still.
The only reason i could watch TNA is if Melina or Orton ever end up there and I doubt that will ever happen.
@jayvardy Oh stop it please, just stop it! I'm sick of you fanboys thinking you have to be loyal to one promotion. It's only wrestling, watch whatever the fuck you want to watch! I bet you weren't complaining when wrestlers were jumping ship from WCW and ECW to the E.
@Kuzco52 I don't think you have to be loyal to one promotion but your own promotion should be loyal to your roster, having 75 ex WWE/WCW stars on the roster at one point in time over 8 years and only having 3 World Champions in that time that havent been in the WWE/WCW means you have no faith in your own roster and you don't promote or build your own talent that you take whatever released wrestlers the wwe have. So out of 8 years, 6 years of WWE/WCW champions.
@Kuzco52 Tag Team Champs. Team 3D, Angle/Sting, Team Pacman(Killings), Christians Coalition(Tomko), MEM(Steiner,Booker), Matt Morgan. 9 out of 22 wrestlers were WWE/WCW. Global Title: 6 Champions 3 WWE/WCW(Nash, Booker, Foley). Womens 7 Champions 2 WWE. X-Division 22 and 6 WWE/WCW(Thank god). So basically the X-Division is there best division in terms of there talent the problem is they focus more on the ex WWE stars then their X-Division their own roster.
they should of put jeff hardy as the champion when bret hart went to wcw he didnt win the title right away plus why wwf drop the ball with a hogan and flair match at mania or any ppv they could of did the world champion vs wwf champ but no they put hogan and undertaker but i guess that launched takers career at the same time. but rvd i understand but if ever guy gets the world title quick when they come from wwe u make tna look weak wwe dont push guys from other promotions right away like that
@DrGnockerz y not jeff hardy was thr in 05 buss in his but he deserve it only thing its the drugs slowin him down hey jeff might turn heel which is a dumb idea and fued wit rvd keep hardy face plz
@madant22 Hardy as a heel would fail because he doesn't have personality. Jeff no showed TNA events when he was there in 2003-05, so he's not very reliable and there are many guys on the roster that deserve a push more.
@DrGnockerz him being ther before in 03 - 05 he paid dues already but never won the title and ppl would mind if jeff hardy was champ cuz he been there before but van dam only been there not even 2 months thats some sheamus shit and rvd been out of wrestling 4 like 5, 6 years if it was some one else that came in besides rvd ppl would not like it cuz it was too fast.
@DrGnockerz no i kno but im not including the tna originals i mean the guys who just came in or at least the pope yea jeff hardy is boring now but thats becuz the drugs but the legal probs and drugs might be a factor y they aint pick him 2 be world champ and rvd was more popular and came in after hardy
@DrGnockerz jeef hardy as a heel is whack but i feel hogan and his bullshit might make this happen. jeff hardy winning to me make more sense and is more credible this rvd thing make tna look more week and desprate 4 ratings and they got lower ratings but it got huge shock value might be shouker or build up of the year mark out momment of the year match of the year contender man alot of categories
i get what ya sayin bro if someones a big wrestler then they should come in on a high road...like HHH goin to TNA then he'd hav to be a main eventer just because..its friggen HHH you know him
Ric Flair winning the WWF title isn't comparable to RVD because for one thing Ric Flair was a bigger star than RVD was by a long shot. Ric Flair wasn't just a guy from another company he was THE guy from that company and technically their World Champion anyways. RVD was never THE guy of any company besides ECW which was much smaller in scale than the NWA. I'm not saying that putting the belt on RVD is a bad idea but comparing him to Flair is a poor comparison.
@TheKenolaBar Oh God, once again, I'm not comparing RVD's legend to Ric Flair's legend. I'm not saying that RVD is as big of a legend as Ric Flair is or was. However, RVD is a legend in his own right. He's an established superstar from a previous promotion that is hugely over with the fans and who's credible enough to be world champion in a new promotion in a short amount of time.
@spinnernet1 Legendary status =/= relevancy. Not saying RVD isn't relevant, but he definitely isn't as relevant as Flair was back in the day. TNA isn't a "new promotion," and they should have already established their own stars.
@Deltacide1 Are you STILL commenting on this video. We agree to disagree. Your not going to change my opinion. Some of your arguments were pretty weak, IMO. now, just leave it alone.
@spinnernet1 Well that's kind of my point. You can't compare RVD to Ric Flair, which is why using that story about Flair's title reign was a poor example to use to justify putting the belt on RVD. RVD and Flair were in two very different positions at those respective times.
@spinnernet1 but so was booker t , scott steiner , kevin nash etc. should they of just been given the title. road dogg was the man at one point in what he was doing one of if not the more over guy in the dx stable when they were at there hottest,
@iseeredpeoples Come on, it's pretty ridiculous to compare Road Dogg to RVD. That's pretty "out there", no offense. Scott Steiner, Booker T and Kevin Nash are not exactly universally accepted as being guys who should have been given the spotlight that they were given. Scott Steiner is the biggest failure of the three. Nash couldn't even sell PPVs and merchandise when he was WWF champion. He did, but it pretty pathetic numbers.
@spinnernet1 im not saying give road dogg nash or scott the title
but i dont think rvd is Cena HHH or the Undertaker. you say ecw wasnt that popular. ECW is a cult with a cult following RVD is the ECW of wrestlers. for tna to give him the strap over tnas own AJ without hookin the leg in an unadverted match says wwe castoffs will be better taken cared of than tnas own.
@iseeredpeoples I never said that RVD was on the same level as Cena, HHH or the Undertaker as far as how big they are to wrestling history. However, RVD is a legend in his own right, IMO. I think he's certainly worthy to be champion and get a main-event push based on past accomplishments.
Rob Van Dam didn't hook A.J. Styles leg? Big deal. A lot of guys have lost championships without getting their legs hooked. A.J. certainly wasn't going to kick out anyway. He was motionless.
@spinnernet1 It's not done because it makes all your roster look weaker when a person from a different company comes in and then wins your championship from your best guy. Whats that say about AJ and about the rest of your roster who couldnt beat AJ.
@unholyx21 Rob Van Dam had a competitive match with AJ, it doesn't make him look weak, it just means Rob Van Dam is better than he is, which is very believable. If you look at AJ's past opponents, is it really a stretch to say RVD was at least on equal ground if not better than them as well?
Angle - Arugably on the same level as RVD
Pope, Joe - Upper midcard, being built up to the main event.
Daniels - Had no buisness being in the main event.
@PhantomChao717 Which brings me to my next point in that TNA is finally trying to set a clear hierarchy within the roster. The fact that they are trying to put in a ranking system proves it.
RVD, Hardy, Angle, Anderson, AJ - Main eventers
Joe, Pope, Wolfe, Morgan, Abyss - Upper midcard
Terry,Hernandez, X-Divison - Midcard
Before the Hogan regime, it would have been hard to point out where everyone fit on the roster, which caused confusion as to who certain people should be feuding with.
u cant compare RVD to Ric Flair in 1992 possibly the greatest ever
martinjamesglasgow 3 weeks ago
AJ should've never lost that title and he should've never turned to heel. Without a doubt, he is 100% babyface.
TheMadStork83 1 year ago
RVD being champ was okay, he was a huge pick up for TNA. Flair is really only one they ever did that with: Windham, Hennig, Vader, Simmons, Rhodes, Garvin, Race, Funk (okay, Funk was not that recent), all those guys came from another fed as recent world champs & were never given a world title run in WWF.
woodwwad 1 year ago
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numb1starwarsfan 1 year ago
fuck uuuuu for saying that ecw isn't that popular and besides your a wrestling wannabe and by the way ever say anything negative between i would make ur life a living
advancedude123 1 year ago
I remember that rumble I saw it live in TV and it was good! Also after Flair won that rumble he went agaisnt Macho Man at Mania 8 which was a great match I watch it over 10 times! I remember Ric Flair made a phony pic with him and Elizabeth and two towels with the letters R and L which Ric and Liz but later find out that the real photo had Macho Man and Elizabeth on it so the letters really stands for RANDY and LIZ! great storylines back than!
Ryan082580 1 year ago
@Ryan082580 lol, thanks for sharing your story. I always did like the Macho Man/Ric Flair feud. Flair vs. Savage at 'mania 8 is one of my favorite matches of all-time.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
Ur right rvd doesn't even belong In TNA wwe is where he belongs but yeah mzn you pretty much said it all :)
123mhangleslam 1 year ago
@123mhangleslam Trust me, RVD won't go back to WWE.
GayisMusofShea 10 months ago
WWE=Coke
TNA=Pepsi
Freezykow 1 year ago
I have to say I did not like him winning the title for one reason and that's because it was on tv. The match should've been on ppv. You have AJ Styles, who is a great worker, and Rob Van Dam, who is a great worker, and it's just not right to have this type of match on free television. I guess that's just my opinion. What are your thoughts Spinner?
Rabidpit189 1 year ago
What are your dream matches ?
Who do you think should win in these matches: 1.Undertaker vs Sting
2.HBK vs Sting, 3.Hulk Hogan vs Stone Cold, Goldberg vs Undertaker (retirement match) at WM
deandre200318 1 year ago
The only thing that annoys me is that they did not put the title on Jeff Hardy first. But i guess it going too RVD is good for me considering they are both my at the top of my list of Fav's. Give him a year and a half title reign like he had in {Original}ECW {Original}.
etgink23 1 year ago
That true then what happened to booker t
sososmooth4u2002 1 year ago
he won it just for ratings because raw was about to start
nenel1989 1 year ago
@nenel1989 he won the TNA title an hour after Raw started.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@nenel1989
RVD won the TNA Championship b/c TNA thinks that having RVD as their World Champ will get them some recognition. I mean, if you think about it, it's really smart. What wrestling fan doesn't know who Rob Van Dam is? A lot of wrestling fans don't know who AJ Styles is.
bestthinggoing459 1 year ago
does it really matter not like the TNA title mean anything
mikefromstrasburg 1 year ago
same happened with kurt angle
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 1 year ago
"Christ Jericho". Yeah Jericho is a town in the biblical times. Brock Lesnar & Sheamus are good examples as well!.
HBKanedge818 1 year ago
AJ should have been the champ FOR A YEAR!!!!!!!
so much 4 tna pushing the youngstars;
rvd is what? 45
haqzuk 1 year ago
@haqzuk 39 sir..
topdinero 1 year ago
Good point, Spin. I'm just going to say this: RVD winning the title shouldn't have had as much build up as a regular storyline should. But it kinda was "out of the blue". What I would've done, since RVD is this "huge star", is have AJ Styles and his cocky attitude say that he's had a 6 month title reign and that no one can beat him. I think people are more upset with RVD's debut more than him winning the title. That's just me though.
RomiEzzo 1 year ago
6 out of 7
Chaingang1984jr 1 year ago
Holy CRAP Dude all you do is complain, why watch something if your gonna bash! jesus christ WE all know Wrestling's in the shitter right now but some of the shit you say makes no fucking since at all! It's just like your trying to find something wrong with nothing. If it's not broke dont fix it. Jesus christ won the title 2 early, that was one of the best Impacts I ever SAW go RVD!!
RynoBGood 1 year ago
@RynoBGood not you spinny responded to somebody else.
RynoBGood 1 year ago
RVD is established enough to be tna world champion (like Flair did in WWE in '92) unlike lesnar or sheamus at the time of their respective reigns.
He's held multiple titles (including the world title), extremely popular and this also gives tna a change of pace.
However, I don't think people would be up in arms as much if Jeff Hardy had won.
lbm1985 1 year ago
Great video spinnernet, and I totally agree wit you. Why cant he be champ already, he bust his ass in ecw and in wwe. He deserves it, and hopefully this means TNA will start going in the right direction. Spinnernet, dont drop to much knowledge on the WWE fan boys, they will come and argue wit you, and how TNA is wrong for whatever, but when WWE does it, its ok. Great video, keep em' coming bro.
BlacknRedTed 1 year ago
I agree with everything you said, RVD has done so much in his career, it would be a little silly to try and built him up if every other promotion already did that.
Descendant37 1 year ago
/watch?v=clGBlGi95yQ
LOL! hahahhahahahahahhhhhahhahahahhah!
wweforeva1234 1 year ago
Sheamus won
Swagger won
Beth won
Hart dynasty def. ShoMiz for #1 contender
Edge won
zombiefighter33 1 year ago
Jtg won
zombiefighter33 1 year ago
hhh going to tna would be like aj styles going to WWE
pspboy107 1 year ago
"Edge over Christ Jericho"
I wonder with Edge beats him with a crucifixion... haha bad joke are awesome
ImmaPsychonaut 1 year ago
Ric Flair was the REAL World's Champion.
JRJigsawyer 1 year ago
i'm not a RVD fan, but i have been thinking since his TNA debut: "if tna is smart, they will make Van Dam champion"
BVader80 1 year ago
my problem with the whole rvd becoming champion so quickly in tna has to do with something you did not address. i know rvd is a big name, he definitely deserves the title, but my problem is, when hogan came to tna, the plan was to build up all the tna stars, make all the homegrown stars big and putting the strap on rvd goes against everything tna is trying to do. tna wants to build its home grown talent, but it seems like they arent, they are putting a wwe guy who hasnt wrestled in years on top
afrochu 1 year ago
@afrochu My point exactly. I love RVD and I think putting the belt on him was great and a good direction for TNA, BUT, it's the exact opposite of what Hogan and Bisch said only a few months ago. It just shows TNA really had continuity issues, and they don't do a very good job of that kind of thing. Not that WWE is great at it either.
JRJigsawyer 1 year ago
People who are complaining that this was on tv and not ppv are retarded. Why pay for a title change when you can see it on tv. It's called giving the fans what they want. There were 2 very good matches (rvd vs hardy/rvd vs aj). Why complain in TNA giving a good show?
MrBrodo789 1 year ago
yeah, Ric Flair was real popular so when he came to the WWF he was a main eventer right away but i have always wondered this. If a huge name from TNA, a megastar like AJ Styles or Samoa Joe was to come to the WWE would Vince immediately put them in the main event scene or chuck them on NXT and call them rookies and make it seem like no one knows them and they're just learning the ropes lol
w31rdguy07i 1 year ago
in his first Year in RAW
UmutBrasco 1 year ago
Everyone (Most of them TNA Haters) that say RVD won the title too quickly. I can only say to these marks: What about Sheamus ?? He is still for my oppinion a "Rookie" in professional Wrestling, so what did WWE? They gave him the World Title by beating John Cena"
UmutBrasco 1 year ago
I agree with you
WrestlingUnplugged 1 year ago
This is just a Rumor but I heard that Batista is leaving this year is this true
I hope not
TSkywalkerFF 1 year ago
The problem is that it was on tv. TNA should have had Hardy vs. RVD in the main event on iMPACT to decide who is the #1 contender for AJ's belt. Then build up RVD vs Styles for a ppv. Also, if you watched the match RVD was sloppy, AJ was wrestling circles around RVD. I'm sorry, I've followed RVD for almost 10 years and I know RVD is better than what i saw. AJ Styles was busting his ass in that match and for him to lose out of nowhere is ridiculous. Hopefully AJ regains it back at Slammiversery
UltimateVictory88 1 year ago
@UltimateVictory88 Didn't you listen to spinnerents video about World title changes on tv since 1996 and build ups are overrated.
24varner 1 year ago
@24varner I did. But this is AJ Styles. TNA's heart and soul of the company. You would never see this from WWE regarding Cena. In addition, I know that AJ Styles has had a long title reign, so I just assumed when they were ready to take the belt off they would build it up to make it a bigger deal. AJ Styles was a true champion, having the belt on him for 7 months should stand tall when he is finally beaten for it.
UltimateVictory88 1 year ago
@UltimateVictory88 Why does TNA have to do what WWE does? People are already complaining that TNA has become wwe light. TNA doesn't play musical chairs with their world heavyweight title and this actually helps AJ in the long run. It would make his character stronger and motivate him to regain the title. It's too early to complain imo. Sometimes build ups to ppv doesn't work.
24varner 1 year ago
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UltimateVictory88 1 year ago
i think evan bourne should've gotten a huge push when he was beat by sheamus before the rumble, he should've turned heel and brought back his old on screen manager and girlfriend Lizzy Valentine from wrestling society x, he could've done what john morrison did saying "My name is not Johnny Nitro ....My name is......JOHN MORRRISON", he could've said "I am Matt Sydal" that would've been awesome.
MrWwefan15 1 year ago
spinnernet i think its cause rvd hasnt wrestled on television for years so people think he had retired. so think about it aj styles got beat by someone who was rusty
90snation 1 year ago
agreed with spinner
thewcwguy 1 year ago
My comment on RVD winning the TNA title is that even if they like RVD to win the title, why they celebrate it very much. if you look close to AJ Styles face he was very humilated. No need for such celebration.
nice010eng 1 year ago
@nice010eng A.J. Styles is a heel, why should anyone care if he looked humiliated? he was champ for 7 months, the longest TNA world title reign to date.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 I know, but my comment on the way that all of the TNA roster ( Hogan, carter, ...) celebrate and congratulate RVD. I still think there was no need for this. It makes you feels that something changed in the TNA career
nice010eng 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 Right, I agree. He should of looked humiliated, he lost to a guy who had a long, great match earlier in the night, and the guy who was champ for 7 months couldnt beat him, its call telling a story. I cant wait to see where TNA goes next.
BlacknRedTed 1 year ago
@nice010eng In all honesty that celebration was not all that big there was what 7,8 guys in the ring. Remember a little pay per veiw called Starrcade where Sting beat Hogan for the World Title Now that was a Celebration.
etgink23 1 year ago
u put Christ Jericho in ur description lol
higyhagd 1 year ago
Ive been on and off with TNA of late but im starting to come around. I think it was right to put the belt on RVD wooo. Great video as normal Spinernet1 !
yrrah123 1 year ago
@yrrah123 personally i thought that jeff hardy shouldve won because rvd wasnt known for winning the world title so he really doesnt need it
daboyofmonkeys10 1 year ago
@daboyofmonkeys10 I really don't think that TNA should push Hardy to the TNA Title until his legal issues are cleared up. He still has a drug trial scheduled and if he goes to jail while he is TNA Champion, then that will make TNA look really bad.
The619Winger 1 year ago
great great great video!!as always,i agree with u.i think some ppl didnt want hm 2 be champ cuz they personally didnt like him?idk,but im happy rvd is tna champ
superjonman1 1 year ago
i never watch tna but i now a.j i now what you mean!
Thedutchrules 1 year ago
good points and good extreme rules predictions
WWEtna85 1 year ago
Kurt Angle, Christian and Sting were main eventers when they debuted, so why is it wrong for RVD?
crazyworld1234567890 1 year ago
@crazyworld1234567890 Christian was not a main eventer before he came to TNA he was barely a mid carder when he was in wwe, the time he got the most over when came to TNA in 06, that's why he's so over now.
24varner 1 year ago
@24varner Yeah but people knew about him.
crazyworld1234567890 1 year ago
@crazyworld1234567890 People knew him but he wasn't that over until he went to TNA, WWE should be thanking TNA for making him upper mid carder.
24varner 1 year ago
@24varner That's not the point.
crazyworld1234567890 1 year ago
@crazyworld1234567890 Then what is "your" point?
24varner 1 year ago
@24varner Even though he was a mid carder, people knew him. Same with Mr. Anderson.
crazyworld1234567890 1 year ago
@crazyworld1234567890 I thought you said he was a main eventer.
24varner 1 year ago
@24varner I mean't in TNA.
crazyworld1234567890 1 year ago
it was the same as Angle he was champ in about a month?
i agree with you spinner
RVD = Awesome!
RME207 1 year ago
Rob Van Dam is the first ever that held the TNA Championship, WWE Championship and ECW Championship. if Ric Flair wins the TNA Tittle (but will never happing) he held the TNA Championship, WWE Championship, NWA Championship and the WCW Championship!
TheWrestlingComedy 1 year ago
why is everyone moaning not like he is a nobody he fucking RVD iam fine with it
t3ddyb3ar2k8 1 year ago
i just relized something. rvd is the only guy to win the wwe title and the tna title.
aglewi41 1 year ago
@aglewi41 Nope,Mick Foley won the WWE title before winning the TNA title.
spawn531 1 year ago
@spawn531 oh yeah. never mind then rvd isnt special
aglewi41 1 year ago
¿Did Hogan won the WCW championship at his first PPV appearance? I think I heard that in the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD.
spawn531 1 year ago
@spawn531 Hogan won the WCW world title in his very first WCW match. He did make a couple of appearances beforehand though.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
It's more easy to break glass with your head than Triple H put over a wrestler
11JimMorrison 1 year ago
im suprised Hardy didnt get RVD's spot now.
JarrodDrover123 1 year ago
TNA hope RVD can bring big rating. that is the only reason he's CHAMP
Rating= Money duh
lrez84 1 year ago
RVD was never builr as world championship material in the WWE. He was a solid upper midcarder and his WWE title win in 2006 didn't make alot of sense.
FireWithFire247 1 year ago
@FireWithFire247 Why didn't it make sense? He was the money in the bank winner.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 I think what Fire means is believability. It wasn't "believable" that RVD won against Cena, even with the extreme rules stipulation and Edge's interference. They really didn't take THAT much advantage of the Extreme Rules stuff, I think one table was used? I'll make a response vid I think, but your video makes a solid argument
IrishSMM2394 1 year ago
@FireWithFire247 he is also the person who combined the european and hardcore titles into the ic title. held both the ecw and wwe championship. RVD is a big deal and has done quite a lot. I honestly wish they would have kept the belt on AJ and kept up that no one could beat him until BFG. Then...Then have RVD finally take the belt off of him.
hamburgeler84 1 year ago
did you think that when shemas won the title
TheCenafan09 1 year ago
I think RVD is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time his moves speak for themselves :) just sayin'
mikeyone100 1 year ago
Great points spinner i agree. These ppl just RVD haters
Bess2k2 1 year ago
wow, spinner, we think alike. i have the same predictions.
BoneThug223 1 year ago
@BoneThug223 that's awesome.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
Give me a hint? wtf are you a teacher? So what if it hurts his career, you tell me one wrestler that has a "not hurt" career, think about it, duh!
XxCuaZZyBuRRoxX 1 year ago
@XxCuaZZyBuRRoxX the word career wasn't even the right word. furthermore, i have no idea why your getting such an attitude.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 lol...spinnernet1, I think he's jealous of u!
Muyiwa87 1 year ago
extreme rules is in baltimore where i liv but im wacthin it on ppv
sssssizzle 1 year ago
i have a quest. what if AJ Styles goes to WWE do u think WWE will make him work his way up the ladder or go straight up to main even status?
VONAFIDE 1 year ago
nive vid spinner
FandNvideos 1 year ago
i agree with you that they pipcked hi up for his name but i would have waited a little bit like towards like sacrafice but i like the idea with RVD because that means some people like rob terry and jeff hardy to get thier title shots because flair and styles is getting boring so i like the RVD world champion storyline
MIzFIT789 1 year ago
I don't think you can compare RVD's title win to Flair's in 1992, RVD won a title shot on Impact and wins the title later that night, Flair won the title in the Rumble in an absolute classic
WillyM79 1 year ago
the same thing happened with Hogan when he returned to WWF in 2002
he won the Undisputed Title 2 Months after he cameback
BoutthatpaperTV 1 year ago
yeah i dont see anything wrong with RVD winning the title
hes already a Main Eventer, Hes one of the biggest names they have aswell so it makes sence to make him champion
BoutthatpaperTV 1 year ago
Whos Rob Van Dam???lol
GeorgeBushSucks69 1 year ago
I have a prob with RVD winnin cause it happened with very little build. I have no problem with world title changes on TV BUT AJ styles had the world title for over 200 days! If Aj Had the belt for 30 days(Usual WWEtitle/WorldHeavyweight title reings) and lost it on TV it wouldnt bother me. But when you have a Guy hold a belt for over 200 days and loses it on TV it will bother me.
HCErik 1 year ago
@HCErik You do realize that at one point there were no pay per views in wrestling?
spinnernet1 1 year ago
TNA made him a champion to bring the ratings up
JESSE75946 1 year ago
people need to quite bitching about RVD as champ. Why? I would rather have him wear the belt than hall, nash, waltman, hogan, Abyss (as hogans lackey, meaning more hogan t.v. time), etc.
Obezeballz469 1 year ago
Eh, World Titles don't mean shit now a days anyways, I hate to say that......but come on.
I think its cool that RVD is champ, sure beats "redneck flair" as champ....good way to misuse AJ fricken Styles TNA.
DeathAdder83 1 year ago
you wrote "Christ" Jericho instead of Chris, in the description box :)
askerror 1 year ago
@askerror Because Jericho is a God!
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz well he does certainly have a god complex
askerror 1 year ago
The problem is that RVD isn't as passionate about the business as he used to be and only came to TNA for big money and a light schedule. Is it really wise for TNA to do business with him like that let alone give him the world title? And it just doesn't seem fair for guys in TNA that worked their asses off for years.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz he showed some passion cuz he did wrestle 4 decent time matches to long matches in a 25-26 hour span. that shows u something at least
TheWill1225 1 year ago
stupid as hell like Vince tries to pretend not to know who Brian Danielson is now that he is finally in WWE...
creedencelearwater 1 year ago
nice vid
mapleloaf67 1 year ago
By your reasoning shouldn't Booker T and DDP have won the WWF/WWE title soon after they had arrived in WWE in 2001? DDP was put in midcard feuds the rest of his WWE career, despite his accomplishments and mass popularity in WCW. As for Booker T, who was a 5 time WCW Champion, didn't win a "WWE" world title until 06-07.
KnightofdaNight 1 year ago
To people who complain about RVD not being a "legend", do people like him? Is he over? Do people know him? Yes to all these questions. He may not be in the WWE Hall of Fame but he's still a big name. I'm not really for this push but it's not the worst thing to happen.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
I predict that Swagger and Orton will feud throughout the summer until Orton beats him at Summerslam for the WHC. I also think that Cena is walking out with the WWE title, but who will be his big summer feud?
Something that bothers me about this PPV is the fact that the Miz is not on it. Not that I'm a big Miz fan, but he's got both the US title and the tag title. Shouldn't one or both of those belts have been on the card? And where is Drew Mcintyre and his IC belt? They should be there!
mrbobbyh 1 year ago
It just worries me that with Hogan & Bischoff ressurecting WCW that they'd replace TNA originals like AJ & Joe in the same way when Hogan came in to WCW he replaced the likes of Sting & Vader on top of the promotion.
BTW Who's Christ Jericho? lol
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz atleast the old Somoa Joe appears to be back. We'll see how he is handled from here on.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 i guess, although i was ok with rvd winning
The6304793832 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 I heard that they may be pushing him for the X-division title instead of the world title which is stupid, have Homicide go after Kaz instead!
Lets hope they have Joe vs RVD, Joe is friends with Rob in real life & always has great chemistry with his pals, examples: vs AJ, vs Daniels, vs Punk.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
I find it funny that when Jeff Hardy debuted in TNA the IWC kept saying push Jeff hardy to the main event. But when RVD won people kept saying he won too early.
civilwarfare101 1 year ago
@civilwarfare101
Meth Hardy sucks, glad TNA pushed RVD instead.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz
But i was just bring up the fact that the IWC wanted Hardy to get pushed when he debuted on January 4.
civilwarfare101 1 year ago
It's still the same in a way both went to different promotions and became World Champion of the respected company with in a short period of time. Kurt Angle to when he want to TNA as well.
harvedogx21 1 year ago
i agree with you man and is exactly what i said about RVD winning the title
LeoTechHelpHDTV 1 year ago
Pope is Pimpin!!
Pope 4 champ!!
speedcruz 1 year ago
Spinner your trying to explain sense to people who wont give TNA any credit it seems, everyone wants to be the booker and has there reason to hate the current storyline.
I doubt most fans know Flair was even in the WWF back in the early 90's and if they do it's doubtful they know what he did there.
jmg3116 1 year ago
Well Spinner its not that he won the title too soon its just that there other people in the company that been there longer than him won deserve the title more than him.
dxbomber 1 year ago
hogan won the title in his first match in wcw
cansecoisgod 1 year ago
Extreme shock value for TNA with van dam winning the title
RelaxingGhost 1 year ago
RVD is/was one of the most over superstars in WWE/WWF and has wins over the rock/stone cold, is he a legend and on the same level as them? No, but he is still very much so over and is one of the best high flying wrestlers they have. Why not put the title on an asset as big as RVD? People will complain over anything nowadays I swear... AJ had the title 7 months, he was going to lose it eventually. RVD is over and they put the title on him, so please stop bitching god.
spearxyou 1 year ago
What about Bryan Danielson?Look at everything he has accomplished and he is nothing more than a jobber in WWE
SpiritWalker14 1 year ago
@SpiritWalker14 Well unforetunately the majority of casual wrestling fans don't know about ROH let alone Brian Danielson like the way they knew Ric Flair back in 1991. Samoa Joe & Desmond Wolfe did get major pushes in TNA because TNA fans are more familiar with indie promotions and know about these guys. But I'll give you one thing, WWE is doing a piss poor job promoting Danielson, having the best wrestler in the world lose on NXT all the time is stupid.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
I liked RVD but I cant stand seeing wwe stars jump ship to TNA. as a WWE supporter I feel like those stars are turning their backs on me, especially jeff hardy and what he did. RVD is a bit different as he was off for years and wwe didnt have intewrest but still.
The only reason i could watch TNA is if Melina or Orton ever end up there and I doubt that will ever happen.
jayvardy 1 year ago
@jayvardy Oh stop it please, just stop it! I'm sick of you fanboys thinking you have to be loyal to one promotion. It's only wrestling, watch whatever the fuck you want to watch! I bet you weren't complaining when wrestlers were jumping ship from WCW and ECW to the E.
Kuzco52 1 year ago
@Kuzco52 I don't think you have to be loyal to one promotion but your own promotion should be loyal to your roster, having 75 ex WWE/WCW stars on the roster at one point in time over 8 years and only having 3 World Champions in that time that havent been in the WWE/WCW means you have no faith in your own roster and you don't promote or build your own talent that you take whatever released wrestlers the wwe have. So out of 8 years, 6 years of WWE/WCW champions.
unholyx21 1 year ago
@Kuzco52 Tag Team Champs. Team 3D, Angle/Sting, Team Pacman(Killings), Christians Coalition(Tomko), MEM(Steiner,Booker), Matt Morgan. 9 out of 22 wrestlers were WWE/WCW. Global Title: 6 Champions 3 WWE/WCW(Nash, Booker, Foley). Womens 7 Champions 2 WWE. X-Division 22 and 6 WWE/WCW(Thank god). So basically the X-Division is there best division in terms of there talent the problem is they focus more on the ex WWE stars then their X-Division their own roster.
unholyx21 1 year ago
I didn't want to see RVD become champ because I'm an AJ fan and didn't wanna see him drop the belt
Eriksuns89 1 year ago
good points.
kiran2914 1 year ago
they should of put jeff hardy as the champion when bret hart went to wcw he didnt win the title right away plus why wwf drop the ball with a hogan and flair match at mania or any ppv they could of did the world champion vs wwf champ but no they put hogan and undertaker but i guess that launched takers career at the same time. but rvd i understand but if ever guy gets the world title quick when they come from wwe u make tna look weak wwe dont push guys from other promotions right away like that
madant22 1 year ago
@madant22 No they shouldn't put the TNA title on Hardy.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz y not jeff hardy was thr in 05 buss in his but he deserve it only thing its the drugs slowin him down hey jeff might turn heel which is a dumb idea and fued wit rvd keep hardy face plz
madant22 1 year ago
@madant22 Hardy as a heel would fail because he doesn't have personality. Jeff no showed TNA events when he was there in 2003-05, so he's not very reliable and there are many guys on the roster that deserve a push more.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz him being ther before in 03 - 05 he paid dues already but never won the title and ppl would mind if jeff hardy was champ cuz he been there before but van dam only been there not even 2 months thats some sheamus shit and rvd been out of wrestling 4 like 5, 6 years if it was some one else that came in besides rvd ppl would not like it cuz it was too fast.
madant22 1 year ago
@madant22 Why should Hardy get the title anyway? He's nothing special, they should push Matt Morgan, Homicide, The MCMG instead.
DrGnockerz 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz no i kno but im not including the tna originals i mean the guys who just came in or at least the pope yea jeff hardy is boring now but thats becuz the drugs but the legal probs and drugs might be a factor y they aint pick him 2 be world champ and rvd was more popular and came in after hardy
madant22 1 year ago
@DrGnockerz jeef hardy as a heel is whack but i feel hogan and his bullshit might make this happen. jeff hardy winning to me make more sense and is more credible this rvd thing make tna look more week and desprate 4 ratings and they got lower ratings but it got huge shock value might be shouker or build up of the year mark out momment of the year match of the year contender man alot of categories
madant22 1 year ago
i think that beth will win the title so that wwe can focus on turning michelle mccool face again
takerisawesome 1 year ago
i know what u mean spinner i agree with u
AWF105 1 year ago
i get what ya sayin bro if someones a big wrestler then they should come in on a high road...like HHH goin to TNA then he'd hav to be a main eventer just because..its friggen HHH you know him
yungrottz112 1 year ago
same thing wit hogan in wcw he won the belt his first nite
RadicalzTv 1 year ago
@RadicalzTv But Hogan was still a giant in the business during that time, and his match with Flair was being hyped like a PPV Fight Night.
Deltacide1 1 year ago
Ric Flair winning the WWF title isn't comparable to RVD because for one thing Ric Flair was a bigger star than RVD was by a long shot. Ric Flair wasn't just a guy from another company he was THE guy from that company and technically their World Champion anyways. RVD was never THE guy of any company besides ECW which was much smaller in scale than the NWA. I'm not saying that putting the belt on RVD is a bad idea but comparing him to Flair is a poor comparison.
TheKenolaBar 1 year ago
@TheKenolaBar Oh God, once again, I'm not comparing RVD's legend to Ric Flair's legend. I'm not saying that RVD is as big of a legend as Ric Flair is or was. However, RVD is a legend in his own right. He's an established superstar from a previous promotion that is hugely over with the fans and who's credible enough to be world champion in a new promotion in a short amount of time.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 Legendary status =/= relevancy. Not saying RVD isn't relevant, but he definitely isn't as relevant as Flair was back in the day. TNA isn't a "new promotion," and they should have already established their own stars.
Deltacide1 1 year ago
@Deltacide1 Are you STILL commenting on this video. We agree to disagree. Your not going to change my opinion. Some of your arguments were pretty weak, IMO. now, just leave it alone.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 What have I said that was weak? Just asking.
Deltacide1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 Well that's kind of my point. You can't compare RVD to Ric Flair, which is why using that story about Flair's title reign was a poor example to use to justify putting the belt on RVD. RVD and Flair were in two very different positions at those respective times.
TheKenolaBar 1 year ago
spinner mate i have to disagree with you
hhh cena and the undertaker are on a level that rvd wont get on
rvd is so well known and so over in certain groups but so was Road dog jesse james
done so much made so much money and was over but you wouldnt just make him champ
iseeredpeoples 1 year ago
@iseeredpeoples Was Road Dogg Jesse James ever a world champion or a main-eventer? No. Rob Van Dam was both before he came to TNA.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 but so was booker t , scott steiner , kevin nash etc. should they of just been given the title. road dogg was the man at one point in what he was doing one of if not the more over guy in the dx stable when they were at there hottest,
iseeredpeoples 1 year ago
@iseeredpeoples Come on, it's pretty ridiculous to compare Road Dogg to RVD. That's pretty "out there", no offense. Scott Steiner, Booker T and Kevin Nash are not exactly universally accepted as being guys who should have been given the spotlight that they were given. Scott Steiner is the biggest failure of the three. Nash couldn't even sell PPVs and merchandise when he was WWF champion. He did, but it pretty pathetic numbers.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 im not saying give road dogg nash or scott the title
but i dont think rvd is Cena HHH or the Undertaker. you say ecw wasnt that popular. ECW is a cult with a cult following RVD is the ECW of wrestlers. for tna to give him the strap over tnas own AJ without hookin the leg in an unadverted match says wwe castoffs will be better taken cared of than tnas own.
iseeredpeoples 1 year ago
@iseeredpeoples I never said that RVD was on the same level as Cena, HHH or the Undertaker as far as how big they are to wrestling history. However, RVD is a legend in his own right, IMO. I think he's certainly worthy to be champion and get a main-event push based on past accomplishments.
Rob Van Dam didn't hook A.J. Styles leg? Big deal. A lot of guys have lost championships without getting their legs hooked. A.J. certainly wasn't going to kick out anyway. He was motionless.
spinnernet1 1 year ago
@spinnernet1 It's not done because it makes all your roster look weaker when a person from a different company comes in and then wins your championship from your best guy. Whats that say about AJ and about the rest of your roster who couldnt beat AJ.
unholyx21 1 year ago
@unholyx21 Rob Van Dam had a competitive match with AJ, it doesn't make him look weak, it just means Rob Van Dam is better than he is, which is very believable. If you look at AJ's past opponents, is it really a stretch to say RVD was at least on equal ground if not better than them as well?
Angle - Arugably on the same level as RVD
Pope, Joe - Upper midcard, being built up to the main event.
Daniels - Had no buisness being in the main event.
Not a knock, just how they were built by TNA.
PhantomChao717 1 year ago
@PhantomChao717 Which brings me to my next point in that TNA is finally trying to set a clear hierarchy within the roster. The fact that they are trying to put in a ranking system proves it.
RVD, Hardy, Angle, Anderson, AJ - Main eventers
Joe, Pope, Wolfe, Morgan, Abyss - Upper midcard
Terry,Hernandez, X-Divison - Midcard
Before the Hogan regime, it would have been hard to point out where everyone fit on the roster, which caused confusion as to who certain people should be feuding with.
PhantomChao717 1 year ago