Why are people talking about "Biblical responsibilities" like go fck urselfs! U can't walk into a land and take it away from the people who live there! And you guys are saying how palestinians are violent protestors... WELL HOW THE F*** DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO REACT?!?! I'm pretty sure if this was happening to the US everyone would support the protestors... But GOD FORBED anyone to stand up for oppressed Muslims even though they're humans too!
bullshit flag on that. these are descendants of arab refugees who fled their homes in what is present-day israel proper. they were never compensated for the homes they lost and now they are not allowed citizenship to a country w/c wants to expand to the land where these refugees live now. these aren't canaanites. and the israelis are not being lead by a prophet to kick them out. its just a bunch of assholes in the israeli gov't that think its ok to treat ppl like crap
Israel is using a fundamental Jewish ideology, created thousands of years ago. They arent thinking like normal human beings think in 2011. Therefore, it is no more possible to reason with Al Qaeda than with Israel.
try do this in USA .. some one steals your home and then say .. oh please please please give it back to me in peacefull way? every american will use his weapon and private property rights to defend his land..
what is this disgusting way? u are telling me to respect the thief and beg him to give me back what he stolen ? and because hes powerfull and control the US banks and can make USA starve huh ?
BIG no this is not how it is supposed to happen. it should happen like Iraq/Kuwait
WTF palestinians non-violent protests? i find that hard to believe.. unless they were palestinian Christians. do they still exist? anyway who cares.. Israel has a biblical responsibility to make the whole land flourish and if some whining arabs are in the way, too bad for them
@Democraticarabiya474 Sure the only thing that people who believe and stick to the truth is the knowmledge that TRUTH will always be victorious LIES and DISINFORMATION spread by NAZI ZIONISTS and their companions will never last but TRUTH will ! The number of people opening their eyes and accepting the TRUTH rather than NAZI ZIONIST LIES is in,creasing. Thats why they are so scared and train people in ISRAEL to spread their disinformation on the internet. Burt they will LOSE!
@Democraticarabiya474 Now there's your problem, you are an Islamist. A basic familiarity with history is more than sufficient to demolish your racial supremacist, bigoted ideology. It's people like you that cause all the problems in the world.
@shirehorse9 And you are either BLIND or a supremacist NAZI ZIONIST or an idiot. Whi rejects to see the truth and trying to do everything possible to try to prevent people from seeing the TRUTH. BUt one thing you cannot see is that the TRUTH will be embraced by people you cannot blind and enslave people with your LIES and DISINFORMATION !
@shirehorse9 I am not regulating any position as you do. My position is that of the Truth. And the truth is that the NAZI ZIONIST occupation in the region is the one and only reason for war and destruction. As long as NAZI ISRAEL keeps on brutally occupying, killing innocent men and women and the rest of the world keeps on looking the other way there will be no peace in the region. But TRUTH will prevail in the end and thats exactly what frighhtens the NAZI ZIONIST bastards most !
@Democraticarabiya474 Speaking of picking up a book, it might be good idea if you actually learned something about the conflict before trying to force your opinion on others. You confuse slogans with analysis and verifiable fact because you are superficially interested in the issue. You will take any position as long as you think it makes you look cool. People like you only fuel the fire and cause problems.
@Democraticarabiya474 Ha, ha you have no idea what I think. Oh the world is ran by a secret Jewish cabal...help, help...they're going to kill me. You're paranoid, conspiracy believing nut job.
Why are the Young Turks opposed to a "two state solution" for the Kurds?
Does Cenk ever speak about Turkey's occupation of Cyprus?
How about the Turkish policy of ethnic cleansing of Christians, that forces a third of the island's Greek population from their homes in the occupied North, preventing their return and settling Turks from the mainland there....
@kFIRmAGNOON Yes, considering Syria and Jordan have killed more Palestinians that Israel has and continues to persecute them. They are not allowed citizenship or the right to work in any of those countries. But, pointing out human rights abuses in Muslim majority countries is considered bigotry.
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The problem is, the Arabs hate having the Jews looking over their shoulder if they want to drown their daughter who is too slow to even use as a suicide bomber. Or break a few limbs to teach someone a leason. It makes them feel uncomfortable. Or the Jew gonna say it's wrong or something. You know how they are.
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If you storm a MILITARY BORDERS you will get hurt!! Seems simple but i guess CHINK i mean Cenk is a little biased racist prick who's show has terrible terrible ratings!
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@thatamazinggeek Do you know that your prejudice and hatred towards Islam are blinding you from thinking objectively? You sicken me. I'm no longer debating this with the likes of you.
@thatamazinggeek Palestine WAS a cosmopolitan area before the Zionists started gathering from all over the world and completely changed the demographics of the country. Now there's Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Persia. Muslims never had any problem with Jews just for being Jews, we only have a problem with them when they come into our land and start killing us and driving us out of our own homes.
@thatamazinggeek Way to twist the history of it all! I guess Naturei Karta and all the other Jewish anti-Israel groups are "literally genocidal" too! There are all sorts of people against Israel and there's no way that they are all racists. "Israel" wasn't fighting for survival because there was no Israel. It's just an unfair occupation of Palestinian land, where a cosmopolitan society used to live in peace and harmony. But the Zionists wanted to create a racist nationalist state on that land.
This is like the Americans protest for 5 years for the Indians to give them more land from their reservations. And calling the Indians settlers, occupiers, and land thieves.
Are we illegal settlers in our own bodies? Maybe my leg belongs to Turkey? I stole my arm from paliwood. Everything is yours. You ever once look at the size of Israel compared to what the rest of you greedy overstuffed asshole have? The Arabs are native to Southern Arabia. No one stole more land than Arabs and westerners. Israel is the native land of the Jews you anti-semitic assholes.
What else you want? You want us Jews to give ourselves to you to torture in your basement, too? We stole our bodies? They belong to the Muslims and the west? Fuck you and your satan and Prophet you got naked, tortured and nailed to a cross. You are stupid ignorant sick fucks.
What a sick joke. The Arabs have 21 countries and the Sahara as it is. The Jews are the native people of Israel. They can't have their own capital. Jordan runs their most holy site with 2 Mosques on it. 2 states is 1 vs 23. Nice math. The Arabs and Muslims don't have enough land like the bs that they are starving in gaza and need aid boats. And with that, Israel gives them land, aid, food, fuel... never enough.
@thatamazinggeek Dude, that didn't come with hard work only! They are THE most supported country in the world! Are you saying we should stop pointing at the criminal who keeps screwing us over and just keep getting screwed over? That is ridiculous.
@thatamazinggeek Sure, nothing except one third of the annual American foreign aid, which is more than 10 billion US dollars. On the other hand, the Arabs can't even take a breath to recover from one war before you get them into another.
@thatamazinggeek Part 2, so it's illegal. If Mexico attacked the US, we would not get to move our borders into Canada, or even Mexico. One cannot win land through war anymore, it's been declared illegal by every "CIVILIZED" society on the map. Israel does not get to claim MORE land in any direction no matter who attacks them, but it especially makes no sense in this case. It makes sense to racists. I have yet to argue this topic with someone who did not try to claim "but Israel is better" CHRIST
@thatamazinggeek It has to do with Israel occupying land that they should not.But since 1967, the Arab community has accepted the 67 borders, after that war was due to Israel's aggression.The justifications are way beyond justifications the US has used to go to war. But It's illegal to fight for land according to International law, and winning a war with Syria does not justify moving borders that were created when they were GIVEN the land. It's ILLEGAL to take land after war esp in ANOTHER AREA.
@thatamazinggeek You again ignore what I said. WHO waged war with them I asked-WHO? Wasn't it OTHER COUNTRIES?It's just racism to say that Israel gets to move the borders GIVEN TO THEM BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY because some completely unrelated country attacked them, AND it's also ILLEGAL to acquire land that way.Made illegal by the same community that gave them the land.Do NOT comment to me again unless you deal with what I actually said and answer those points, you've done this twice now.
@thatamazinggeek "honey" you lost right there. But I didn't say "military aid:", now did I? Go back and deal with what I actually said. It was regarding technology. That's not theirs, and they didn't get that from scratch, that's from having seriously powerful backing. People mostly talk of US backing, it's not just that. Also, they are not a democracy, only in name, and your racist "civilized" terminology has been noted, your UBERMENCH puffed chest. The TECHNOLOGY was not developed in a vaccuum
@thatamazinggeek "they built their prosperous democracy from virtually nothing"-LOL. After being given a handout of an entire country, that was not ethical in the first place, but besides that, they have the most advanced military in the world, certainly not on their OWN. That's ludicrous. They have that advancement because of the US (and/or whoever else), so they clearly have a military industrial complex that helps the economy, and was BY NO MEANS their own doing solely.
@thatamazinggeek OH , so it's "Arabs"? I thought the wars were with surrounding nations when they were attacked about 4 different times. That would have no bearing on borders set up BY THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE. Also the international community has decided that it's illegal to seize land because of a war. The same people that FORMED ISRAEL AND HANDED IT TO THEM, so they are breaking the law. Just about everyone recognizes that except for the extreme religious zionist.
@elfornse wow Are all Libertarians this stupid? I mean you've just back-peddled. When something is Geopolitical valuable ... that doesn't mean it is taken for the Taxes. Because 350 acres of land doesn't cover the military expenses used to take that land
@thatamazinggeek Ok the next time somebody kicks you out of your house/apartment/property on the basis that they are better tenant/house owner then get back to me.
Is that before or after zionist terrorist gangs started expelling thousands of palestinians from their homes?
@elfornse That is the most funniest libertarian view ever! Since when is it economic efficient to bomb and land grab a small piece of land of a different country?
Cenk, you make it sound like this is the first time the Palestinians have tried peaceful protests. Ever heard of the "Intifadas"? Peaceful non-violent protests by Palestinians = 1100 Palestinians killed by the Israeli "Defense" "Force".
@rezabeza oh you mean where they killed 164 israelis and 1000 OF THEIR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE because they accused them of being "Israel collaborators'? yeah sure was nonviolence. Anyway i hope they get more of their land back, i want peace there. But it amazes me how fucking ignorant people on both sides of this argument are, whether its willful or not.
This small victory at Bil'in shows the peaceful protesting approach can work, trickle by trickle, step by step to achieve independence and a land for the Palestinian people. People may get bogged down in trying to gain moral high ground on both sides of this conflict, the Arab Spring has taught us that peaceful protests in the face of adversity can effect real change in the Middle East.
Preserverance? lol What's preserverance? Is he George W. Palin? That's embarrassing, but to make it worse he said it with such conviction. And before his base of people with their heads in the Cenk go "nucular", I "refudiate" my own statement.
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The reason people do terrorism is because they're pissed off. Obviously plenty Palestinians are pissed off because the Israelis, and all the dumb fucks who back them in cowardice of being called Anti-Semetic, keep fucking them over. They are a 18th century minded country in the 21st century. True, our 21st century countries are probably doing it in the cut, but Israel is jacking land blatantly. And I've met a few cool Israelis, but their govt is FUCKED UP and HYPOCRITICAL.
@okonomiyaki51 Terrorism is the result of religious-political indoctrination. Picking one side and blindly accepting their propaganda without questioning it will not help anyone.
The problem with this school of thought is you are asking the victim to compromise. For example, I steal $100 from Cenk, he ask me nicely for 6 year to give him back the money. I say Ok since you have been a good boy, here is $25 and now everybody is happy. In the search for peace the basic sense of justice has gone right out the window
This is more heartening than other news that comes out of the occupation but they still kept a lot of the land, so I say that they continue till they get all of it back like they deserve.
@Saaduk92 "Like they deserve?" The local Arabs deserve to live in peace when they act peaceful, they deserve their private property other than that they desrve nothing.
@Saaduk92 You could say the same about the Palestinians. Muslims have killed far more Palestinians than Israel has. Now, if the Palestinians would stop shelling Israel, attacking everyone in the area, and being paid to be Iran's military front then there maybe hope for peace.
@shirehorse9 You are aware that most muslims are with palestine, arent you? Palestine is extremely under powered in this war, and you cant make israel seem like a victim, because they are the ones with all the weapons and the organized army, with nearly the whole western world supporting them, while palestine have nothing! how can you say they are "attacking Israel". They are protesting and throwing rocks to defend their land from being illegaly stolen while Israelis are just gunning them down.
@OnlySticksAndStones Twit, STFU until you've done basic research. The Palestinians have one of most heavily armed militaries. They are not throwing stones at Israel, rather they are shelling with rockets. Look at the history of the Palestinians in Jordan and Lebanon. The most of Israel was bought from Arabs or the Arabs never lived there. Most of the Palestinians are recent immigrants who arrive during the 20th century. Look up the population demographics of Jerusalem over the centuries.
@shirehorse9 Alright first of all, can you not have a proper conversation without feeling the need to swear? Grow up. Second of all, the palestinians were there before the israelis, thats a fact that you cant deny, and yep, they did sell some land, but there was no agreement that allowed them to expand their land by stealing it.
And it makes me curious to see what country you are from, because you hear different things in different places. Your country probably likes israel, thats why you do.
@MsAlternativexxx Actually i aint an Arab, but im not gonna blindly follow my country's beliefs just because they support israel. Palestine are underpowered, they used to live in peace, making deals with israel over land, but little did they know, israel was greedy, and they did what they KNEW was wrong (e.g take the village in this video) and carelessly ruining peaceful plaestinians lives. Must be Western.
@MsAlternativexxx Im not against the state of israel at all! im against their pricipals, because even after they made it a state, they CONTINUED to steal land illegally! thats what im against!
@MsAlternativexxx Not to mention how inhumane it is to block all food and water from innocents in Gazza (which is as usual, illegal) and KILL people who are on ships trying to save gazza (like that turkish ship once)
Which was by the way on international waters, making it piracy. So the israeli governmets are technically pirates.
@MsAlternativexxx To stop the breeding of terrorism? Thats like saying all the people in Gazza are terrorists which isnt true. Thats like saying "Hitler wanted to stop terrorism so he tortured the jews" its still inhumane and wrong to torture innocent people
@OnlySticksAndStones What!!?? No one stole the land because they had no claim to it. Arabs lived in a very small portion of Israel/Palestine and are mostly recent immigrants. Your problem stems from believing the propaganda of Islamists. Look up the historical demographics of Jerusalem.
No one said the Palestinians were angels. But the argument that Israel is some sort of victim is completely alien to reality. Both financially as well as in terms of the military Israel is far more powerful.
@Saaduk92 No one is saying that Israel is a victim. What we are saying is that it's more complicated than what is represented. Yes, by all means stop bulldozing houses in East Jerusalem, move the fence if it cuts off a farmer's field, deal with water rights, and stop settlements. But, this is far from the only human rights consideration in the area and fence in a farmer's field is not the greatest violation of human rights the world has ever seen.
Politicians are bought by the highest bidder > The Israeli lobby is incredibly powerful and hence can fund politicians > This leads most politicians to be biased towards Israel > Israel is over funded > The aforementioned over funding has led their military to be one of the most powerful in the world, and so on..
@Saaduk92 See Noam Chomsky on how he Jewish/Israel lobby has no power. Arab countries get far, far more military funding than Israel. Worry about the Arab funding first.
You're as retarded as the people that equate taxation with slavery
Its in insane argument to compare taxation with racist settlers gunning down your family to take your home or turning you into a beast of burden to work the fields and hobble if you try to escape
Your mentally insane if you think that those are valid comparisons
I think what cenk meant at 1:34 was that it was on the "settlement side", not the "Israeli side." There is no "Israeli side" in the West Bank. All of it is Palestinian land. The settlements are all illegal and though they are occupied by Israelis, they are not Israeli land.
Cenk you must also give credit to Israel for doing their part to create peace. You also fail to mention that this wall was installed to prevent terrorism, not to steal land. Finally, you need to stop treating Israel's government as an evil dictatorship. If they were, there is no way they would have listened to Palestinian protesters.
@dmcarefuldriver Need i remind you that they listened to protesters and it took 6 YEARS! DOWN WITH THE EVIL DICTATORS AND ZIONISTS! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE!
@RAF7430 You have no proof that they even took it down because of the protesters. They are probably just doing it for future peace negotiations. And they are NOT dictators. Israel is a democracy.
@sunRsaturn Im afraid, what i said was the truth. I know the truth hurts, but you will get over it :) LONG LIVE PALESTINE! DOWN WITH THE ZIONIST REGIME!
@RAF7430 Where did the Western Wall come from? Palestine? You the ones who all need to go back to Europe and England. No one really stole more land than you. Or the Arabs can go back to southern Arabia. Israel is the native land of the Jews. You afraid it might become a trend?
@sunRsaturn Lol, firstly correct you grammar and spelling, it sounds like you're a ten year old. Secondly, pre1948 did Israel exist? No. Did Palestine exist? Yes. Swallow your humanity!
@thatamazinggeek Great argument! I'll keep the land I stole because I can use it better than they do! This is not about which political regime is better. It's about the true ownership of land.
@starcatcher2222 Maybe you don't realize we're not talking about real estate here. A whole country has been raped. "no proof of ownership"? ever heard of history? Oh, right! You must have read your own version of that.
The only person who can completely fix this mess in Palestine and Israel is President Sarah Palin! Palin will put both Netanyahu and the Palestinian leaders in their place! Netanyahu is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCHES and PUSSIES! Palin is VASTLY SUPERIOR to this DIRTY JEW in every single way. Cenk will feel the WRATH and FURY of GOD HERSELF for being too pro-Palestinian!
@WinkyMaeve How is anti-Zionism and criticism of Israel anti-Semitism?! Does your democracy deny people the basic right of discussing political views?! Zionism is not a race and there's nothing wrong about criticizing it. The world is now mature enough to know that your "never again" accusations are blatant lies. No one is as deep in genocide and ethnic cleansing as Israel.
@WinkyMaeve No one is trying to do that. For your info, I AM a Semite! Stop using that cheap line to justify the killing of innocent Arabs. Your ancestors didn't die for you to use that as an excuse for terrorism. Israel is the new Nazi Germany. Shame on you!
Instead of praising both sides for a constructive resolution (finally),
Cenk's praises the Palestinian "victory"
In Cenk's zero-sum game, a Pal victory is an Israeli defeat.
He is critical of the Israeli gov. even when it gives back land for peace.
Cenk does not sound fair & balanced here - he sounds full of hatred.
Is Cenk a bigot? Well, if exhibiting intolerance, and animosity towards those of differing race, ethnicity, religion, or nationality is being a bigot, then yes.
@kFIRmAGNOON Why praise the oppressor? Seriously, is it anti-semitic if I don't praise the holy dignified government of Israel? That is the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. Israel did a mistake 6 years ago and only now is it (not really) correcting it. That doesn't deserve any "praise" in my book.
@kFIRmAGNOON If "peaceful" Zionist terrorist groups like the Haganah hadn't killed the innocent people of Palestine (Muslim, Christian, AND Jewish) for land then the Arabs wouldn't have had to react. Occupying land is indefensible. And any attempt to justify that is pure evil. End of discussion.
“The Young Turks” of the Islamic Ottoman Empire, who "occupied" Israel, Palestine, and all of the Middle East less than 100 years ago, never gave the “Palestinians” a state.
The Jordanians and Egyptians, who owed the West Bank / Gaza before 1967, never gave the “Palestinians” a state.
Why? Because “Palestinians” are simply the people who lived in that area – they never had a “state” to take from.
Israel is "occupying" land that Jordan and Egypt lost and refuse to take back!
@gorogawa -- Cheapening praise by giving it when one is normally expected to do the humane thing anyway doesn't serve any useful purpose, and it diminishes the merits of those who are actually going above and beyond to help others in the face of injustice. This applies to nations, people, cultures, companies and every other type of entity.
watch tears of gaza
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Why are people talking about "Biblical responsibilities" like go fck urselfs! U can't walk into a land and take it away from the people who live there! And you guys are saying how palestinians are violent protestors... WELL HOW THE F*** DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO REACT?!?! I'm pretty sure if this was happening to the US everyone would support the protestors... But GOD FORBED anyone to stand up for oppressed Muslims even though they're humans too!
DORC101 6 months ago 2
nicely done.go Palestine
osama43 7 months ago
Long live Israel!! Palestinians already have a country called Jordan hence should all be deported to Jordan
jigglyfidda125 7 months ago
@jigglyfidda125
bullshit flag on that. these are descendants of arab refugees who fled their homes in what is present-day israel proper. they were never compensated for the homes they lost and now they are not allowed citizenship to a country w/c wants to expand to the land where these refugees live now. these aren't canaanites. and the israelis are not being lead by a prophet to kick them out. its just a bunch of assholes in the israeli gov't that think its ok to treat ppl like crap
antoniopooper 7 months ago
this how you fight an oppersive government
ialrai 8 months ago
PEACEFULL PALESTAINIANS?!?
landofthebravefull 8 months ago
Israel is using a fundamental Jewish ideology, created thousands of years ago. They arent thinking like normal human beings think in 2011. Therefore, it is no more possible to reason with Al Qaeda than with Israel.
bballadante 8 months ago
LOL
try do this in USA .. some one steals your home and then say .. oh please please please give it back to me in peacefull way? every american will use his weapon and private property rights to defend his land..
what is this disgusting way? u are telling me to respect the thief and beg him to give me back what he stolen ? and because hes powerfull and control the US banks and can make USA starve huh ?
BIG no this is not how it is supposed to happen. it should happen like Iraq/Kuwait
snaforfun 8 months ago
WTF palestinians non-violent protests? i find that hard to believe.. unless they were palestinian Christians. do they still exist? anyway who cares.. Israel has a biblical responsibility to make the whole land flourish and if some whining arabs are in the way, too bad for them
xjaskix 8 months ago
@xjaskix "biblical responsibility"? You're joking right?
Jasminewynja 8 months ago
@Democraticarabiya474 Sure the only thing that people who believe and stick to the truth is the knowmledge that TRUTH will always be victorious LIES and DISINFORMATION spread by NAZI ZIONISTS and their companions will never last but TRUTH will ! The number of people opening their eyes and accepting the TRUTH rather than NAZI ZIONIST LIES is in,creasing. Thats why they are so scared and train people in ISRAEL to spread their disinformation on the internet. Burt they will LOSE!
vitalalive69 8 months ago
@Democraticarabiya474 Now there's your problem, you are an Islamist. A basic familiarity with history is more than sufficient to demolish your racial supremacist, bigoted ideology. It's people like you that cause all the problems in the world.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 And you are either BLIND or a supremacist NAZI ZIONIST or an idiot. Whi rejects to see the truth and trying to do everything possible to try to prevent people from seeing the TRUTH. BUt one thing you cannot see is that the TRUTH will be embraced by people you cannot blind and enslave people with your LIES and DISINFORMATION !
vitalalive69 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 HAHA HELP the Muslims are coming they're going to destroy the WORLD Help !!!!! so lets kill all Muslims or we all die HELP !!! LOL
vitalalive69 8 months ago
@vitalalive69 Well then, stop regurgitating the Islamist position. You might try thinking for a change and being less of sheep.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 I am not regulating any position as you do. My position is that of the Truth. And the truth is that the NAZI ZIONIST occupation in the region is the one and only reason for war and destruction. As long as NAZI ISRAEL keeps on brutally occupying, killing innocent men and women and the rest of the world keeps on looking the other way there will be no peace in the region. But TRUTH will prevail in the end and thats exactly what frighhtens the NAZI ZIONIST bastards most !
vitalalive69 8 months ago
@Democraticarabiya474 Speaking of picking up a book, it might be good idea if you actually learned something about the conflict before trying to force your opinion on others. You confuse slogans with analysis and verifiable fact because you are superficially interested in the issue. You will take any position as long as you think it makes you look cool. People like you only fuel the fire and cause problems.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@Democraticarabiya474 Ha, ha you have no idea what I think. Oh the world is ran by a secret Jewish cabal...help, help...they're going to kill me. You're paranoid, conspiracy believing nut job.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
This is a great example of how non violent protests can work really well and how you don't need to bash someone over the head to get results.
samusic160 8 months ago
@RAF7430 Actually, Israel is a parlimantiary democracy. You liar.
dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
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dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
...What's with the flag background?
MasauFuku 8 months ago
Does Cenk ever celebrate Kurdish victories....
Why are the Young Turks opposed to a "two state solution" for the Kurds?
Does Cenk ever speak about Turkey's occupation of Cyprus?
How about the Turkish policy of ethnic cleansing of Christians, that forces a third of the island's Greek population from their homes in the occupied North, preventing their return and settling Turks from the mainland there....
Please comment on YOUR country Cenk!
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@kFIRmAGNOON Yes, considering Syria and Jordan have killed more Palestinians that Israel has and continues to persecute them. They are not allowed citizenship or the right to work in any of those countries. But, pointing out human rights abuses in Muslim majority countries is considered bigotry.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
The problem is, the Arabs hate having the Jews looking over their shoulder if they want to drown their daughter who is too slow to even use as a suicide bomber. Or break a few limbs to teach someone a leason. It makes them feel uncomfortable. Or the Jew gonna say it's wrong or something. You know how they are.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
if "terrorism" doesn't work.. why did Hizbollah succeed in driving Israel out of south Lebanon?
While peaceful resistance is admirable, it's hardly as effective as fighting fire with fire.
5233484 8 months ago
@5233484 buts its usually not good for politics. There's more to war than shooting.
roflwaffle12321 8 months ago
I fucking hate this liberal biased douche bag
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
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andrewsaccount09 8 months ago
If you storm a MILITARY BORDERS you will get hurt!! Seems simple but i guess CHINK i mean Cenk is a little biased racist prick who's show has terrible terrible ratings!
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Do you know that your prejudice and hatred towards Islam are blinding you from thinking objectively? You sicken me. I'm no longer debating this with the likes of you.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Palestine WAS a cosmopolitan area before the Zionists started gathering from all over the world and completely changed the demographics of the country. Now there's Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Persia. Muslims never had any problem with Jews just for being Jews, we only have a problem with them when they come into our land and start killing us and driving us out of our own homes.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Way to twist the history of it all! I guess Naturei Karta and all the other Jewish anti-Israel groups are "literally genocidal" too! There are all sorts of people against Israel and there's no way that they are all racists. "Israel" wasn't fighting for survival because there was no Israel. It's just an unfair occupation of Palestinian land, where a cosmopolitan society used to live in peace and harmony. But the Zionists wanted to create a racist nationalist state on that land.
gorogawa 8 months ago
Peaceful palestinians? That's an oxymoron
dgallegos4201 8 months ago
@dgallegos4201 A Caring Jew, that's the definition of an oxymoron
deadpinkowl 8 months ago
@deadpinkowl An understanding bigot? Thats a really fucked up oxymoron.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PEACFULL PALESTINKIAN THE ANIMALS LERNED TO KILL FROM THE BIRTH
xgarievas2 8 months ago
This is like the Americans protest for 5 years for the Indians to give them more land from their reservations. And calling the Indians settlers, occupiers, and land thieves.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
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sunRsaturn 8 months ago
Are we illegal settlers in our own bodies? Maybe my leg belongs to Turkey? I stole my arm from paliwood. Everything is yours. You ever once look at the size of Israel compared to what the rest of you greedy overstuffed asshole have? The Arabs are native to Southern Arabia. No one stole more land than Arabs and westerners. Israel is the native land of the Jews you anti-semitic assholes.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
What else you want? You want us Jews to give ourselves to you to torture in your basement, too? We stole our bodies? They belong to the Muslims and the west? Fuck you and your satan and Prophet you got naked, tortured and nailed to a cross. You are stupid ignorant sick fucks.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
What a sick joke. The Arabs have 21 countries and the Sahara as it is. The Jews are the native people of Israel. They can't have their own capital. Jordan runs their most holy site with 2 Mosques on it. 2 states is 1 vs 23. Nice math. The Arabs and Muslims don't have enough land like the bs that they are starving in gaza and need aid boats. And with that, Israel gives them land, aid, food, fuel... never enough.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Dude, that didn't come with hard work only! They are THE most supported country in the world! Are you saying we should stop pointing at the criminal who keeps screwing us over and just keep getting screwed over? That is ridiculous.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Sure, nothing except one third of the annual American foreign aid, which is more than 10 billion US dollars. On the other hand, the Arabs can't even take a breath to recover from one war before you get them into another.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Part 2, so it's illegal. If Mexico attacked the US, we would not get to move our borders into Canada, or even Mexico. One cannot win land through war anymore, it's been declared illegal by every "CIVILIZED" society on the map. Israel does not get to claim MORE land in any direction no matter who attacks them, but it especially makes no sense in this case. It makes sense to racists. I have yet to argue this topic with someone who did not try to claim "but Israel is better" CHRIST
boobootoob 8 months ago
@boobootoob
"If Mexico attacked the US"
Ha!! Good luck! What are you gonna do? Throw burritos at them?
"but Israel is better"
Israel IS better. In any practically useful and reasonable way.
kirkey99 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek It has to do with Israel occupying land that they should not.But since 1967, the Arab community has accepted the 67 borders, after that war was due to Israel's aggression.The justifications are way beyond justifications the US has used to go to war. But It's illegal to fight for land according to International law, and winning a war with Syria does not justify moving borders that were created when they were GIVEN the land. It's ILLEGAL to take land after war esp in ANOTHER AREA.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek You again ignore what I said. WHO waged war with them I asked-WHO? Wasn't it OTHER COUNTRIES?It's just racism to say that Israel gets to move the borders GIVEN TO THEM BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY because some completely unrelated country attacked them, AND it's also ILLEGAL to acquire land that way.Made illegal by the same community that gave them the land.Do NOT comment to me again unless you deal with what I actually said and answer those points, you've done this twice now.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek "honey" you lost right there. But I didn't say "military aid:", now did I? Go back and deal with what I actually said. It was regarding technology. That's not theirs, and they didn't get that from scratch, that's from having seriously powerful backing. People mostly talk of US backing, it's not just that. Also, they are not a democracy, only in name, and your racist "civilized" terminology has been noted, your UBERMENCH puffed chest. The TECHNOLOGY was not developed in a vaccuum
boobootoob 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek "they built their prosperous democracy from virtually nothing"-LOL. After being given a handout of an entire country, that was not ethical in the first place, but besides that, they have the most advanced military in the world, certainly not on their OWN. That's ludicrous. They have that advancement because of the US (and/or whoever else), so they clearly have a military industrial complex that helps the economy, and was BY NO MEANS their own doing solely.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek OH , so it's "Arabs"? I thought the wars were with surrounding nations when they were attacked about 4 different times. That would have no bearing on borders set up BY THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE. Also the international community has decided that it's illegal to seize land because of a war. The same people that FORMED ISRAEL AND HANDED IT TO THEM, so they are breaking the law. Just about everyone recognizes that except for the extreme religious zionist.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@elfornse wow Are all Libertarians this stupid? I mean you've just back-peddled. When something is Geopolitical valuable ... that doesn't mean it is taken for the Taxes. Because 350 acres of land doesn't cover the military expenses used to take that land
robinvan1983 8 months ago
Ghandi would be proud
ShadowWolfRising 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Ok the next time somebody kicks you out of your house/apartment/property on the basis that they are better tenant/house owner then get back to me.
Is that before or after zionist terrorist gangs started expelling thousands of palestinians from their homes?
rencrow 8 months ago
150 acres WOHOOO what an accomplishment /:
dfg93353 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek They built it from something that didn't belong to them.
rencrow 8 months ago
@elfornse That is the most funniest libertarian view ever! Since when is it economic efficient to bomb and land grab a small piece of land of a different country?
robinvan1983 8 months ago
Cenk, you make it sound like this is the first time the Palestinians have tried peaceful protests. Ever heard of the "Intifadas"? Peaceful non-violent protests by Palestinians = 1100 Palestinians killed by the Israeli "Defense" "Force".
rezabeza 8 months ago
@rezabeza oh you mean where they killed 164 israelis and 1000 OF THEIR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE because they accused them of being "Israel collaborators'? yeah sure was nonviolence. Anyway i hope they get more of their land back, i want peace there. But it amazes me how fucking ignorant people on both sides of this argument are, whether its willful or not.
MjXllcommando 8 months ago
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noubani2 8 months ago
This small victory at Bil'in shows the peaceful protesting approach can work, trickle by trickle, step by step to achieve independence and a land for the Palestinian people. People may get bogged down in trying to gain moral high ground on both sides of this conflict, the Arab Spring has taught us that peaceful protests in the face of adversity can effect real change in the Middle East.
Remus0387 8 months ago
nonviolence? LOL
Cenk, you have no idea what was going on there in the past 6 years....
prospamers 8 months ago
Tear down the wall!
criskity 8 months ago
Preserverance? lol What's preserverance? Is he George W. Palin? That's embarrassing, but to make it worse he said it with such conviction. And before his base of people with their heads in the Cenk go "nucular", I "refudiate" my own statement.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
@TheSimsProductions23 Also, most of Israel and Palestine was unoccupied desert. The Arabs never lived there.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
I love how Cenk stumbles on his words at the beginning of the video because he's being too careful not to upset his Israeli friends! com'on man!
koya25555 8 months ago
The reason people do terrorism is because they're pissed off. Obviously plenty Palestinians are pissed off because the Israelis, and all the dumb fucks who back them in cowardice of being called Anti-Semetic, keep fucking them over. They are a 18th century minded country in the 21st century. True, our 21st century countries are probably doing it in the cut, but Israel is jacking land blatantly. And I've met a few cool Israelis, but their govt is FUCKED UP and HYPOCRITICAL.
okonomiyaki51 8 months ago
@okonomiyaki51 Terrorism is the result of religious-political indoctrination. Picking one side and blindly accepting their propaganda without questioning it will not help anyone.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
A peaceful Palestinian protest and the the Israelis didn't just run them over with tanks? Who knew the IDF could respect human rights!
disrxt 8 months ago 3
The problem with this school of thought is you are asking the victim to compromise. For example, I steal $100 from Cenk, he ask me nicely for 6 year to give him back the money. I say Ok since you have been a good boy, here is $25 and now everybody is happy. In the search for peace the basic sense of justice has gone right out the window
zebrarraz 8 months ago 29
@zebrarraz Totally agree.
thesparitan 8 months ago
This is more heartening than other news that comes out of the occupation but they still kept a lot of the land, so I say that they continue till they get all of it back like they deserve.
Saaduk92 8 months ago
@Saaduk92 "Like they deserve?" The local Arabs deserve to live in peace when they act peaceful, they deserve their private property other than that they desrve nothing.
starcatcher2222 8 months ago
@starcatcher2222
Palestinians have had more deaths year on year for decades. If anyone needs to act peaceful it's the Israeli's.
Don't throw stones while you're in a glass house.
Saaduk92 8 months ago 8
@Saaduk92 You could say the same about the Palestinians. Muslims have killed far more Palestinians than Israel has. Now, if the Palestinians would stop shelling Israel, attacking everyone in the area, and being paid to be Iran's military front then there maybe hope for peace.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 You are aware that most muslims are with palestine, arent you? Palestine is extremely under powered in this war, and you cant make israel seem like a victim, because they are the ones with all the weapons and the organized army, with nearly the whole western world supporting them, while palestine have nothing! how can you say they are "attacking Israel". They are protesting and throwing rocks to defend their land from being illegaly stolen while Israelis are just gunning them down.
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago
@OnlySticksAndStones Twit, STFU until you've done basic research. The Palestinians have one of most heavily armed militaries. They are not throwing stones at Israel, rather they are shelling with rockets. Look at the history of the Palestinians in Jordan and Lebanon. The most of Israel was bought from Arabs or the Arabs never lived there. Most of the Palestinians are recent immigrants who arrive during the 20th century. Look up the population demographics of Jerusalem over the centuries.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 Alright first of all, can you not have a proper conversation without feeling the need to swear? Grow up. Second of all, the palestinians were there before the israelis, thats a fact that you cant deny, and yep, they did sell some land, but there was no agreement that allowed them to expand their land by stealing it.
And it makes me curious to see what country you are from, because you hear different things in different places. Your country probably likes israel, thats why you do.
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago 2
@OnlySticksAndStones How were Palestinians there before Israel? lol
Must be an Arab.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
@MsAlternativexxx Actually i aint an Arab, but im not gonna blindly follow my country's beliefs just because they support israel. Palestine are underpowered, they used to live in peace, making deals with israel over land, but little did they know, israel was greedy, and they did what they KNEW was wrong (e.g take the village in this video) and carelessly ruining peaceful plaestinians lives. Must be Western.
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago
@OnlySticksAndStones Yes. lol
But there was an actual vote (I'm not sure wether it was national or global) but the vote for a state of Israel outweighed the vote against it.
& Hey.. if Palestine were to exist, it might have ended up as a country that breeds AQ camps.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
@MsAlternativexxx Im not against the state of israel at all! im against their pricipals, because even after they made it a state, they CONTINUED to steal land illegally! thats what im against!
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago
@MsAlternativexxx Not to mention how inhumane it is to block all food and water from innocents in Gazza (which is as usual, illegal) and KILL people who are on ships trying to save gazza (like that turkish ship once)
Which was by the way on international waters, making it piracy. So the israeli governmets are technically pirates.
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago
@OnlySticksAndStones Wasn't the whole thing with Gaza to stop them breeding terrorism? lol
Cutting off supplies to Gaza as half of the strip were just insurgents.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
@MsAlternativexxx To stop the breeding of terrorism? Thats like saying all the people in Gazza are terrorists which isnt true. Thats like saying "Hitler wanted to stop terrorism so he tortured the jews" its still inhumane and wrong to torture innocent people
OnlySticksAndStones 8 months ago
@OnlySticksAndStones I wasn't suggesting everyone in the -Gaza- Strip were terrorists.
Also, I believe Hitler just killed Jews because he blamed everything bad that happened to Germany since WWI on them.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
@OnlySticksAndStones What!!?? No one stole the land because they had no claim to it. Arabs lived in a very small portion of Israel/Palestine and are mostly recent immigrants. Your problem stems from believing the propaganda of Islamists. Look up the historical demographics of Jerusalem.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9
No one said the Palestinians were angels. But the argument that Israel is some sort of victim is completely alien to reality. Both financially as well as in terms of the military Israel is far more powerful.
Saaduk92 8 months ago
@Saaduk92 No one is saying that Israel is a victim. What we are saying is that it's more complicated than what is represented. Yes, by all means stop bulldozing houses in East Jerusalem, move the fence if it cuts off a farmer's field, deal with water rights, and stop settlements. But, this is far from the only human rights consideration in the area and fence in a farmer's field is not the greatest violation of human rights the world has ever seen.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9
I'm over simplifying, but;
Politicians are bought by the highest bidder > The Israeli lobby is incredibly powerful and hence can fund politicians > This leads most politicians to be biased towards Israel > Israel is over funded > The aforementioned over funding has led their military to be one of the most powerful in the world, and so on..
Saaduk92 8 months ago
@Saaduk92 See Noam Chomsky on how he Jewish/Israel lobby has no power. Arab countries get far, far more military funding than Israel. Worry about the Arab funding first.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
Death to Zionist Jew Israel and its supporters the American Imperialists and free Palestine!!!!!!!
98bigbutt 8 months ago
@98bigbutt another violent comment from shit head ... free it from what
learn99toswim 8 months ago
@learn99toswim,Free it from Israeli oppression you Zionist fuck!!!!!!
98bigbutt 8 months ago
@98bigbutt i m not a zionist shit for brains ... oppression hahahah ..
learn99toswim 8 months ago
@98bigbutt fuck........ lol looking at the birth rates..
learn99toswim 8 months ago
@elfornse I'm not suggesting anything
I'm SAYING that you're fucking delusional
You're as retarded as the people that equate taxation with slavery
Its in insane argument to compare taxation with racist settlers gunning down your family to take your home or turning you into a beast of burden to work the fields and hobble if you try to escape
Your mentally insane if you think that those are valid comparisons
dffykvn 8 months ago
I think what cenk meant at 1:34 was that it was on the "settlement side", not the "Israeli side." There is no "Israeli side" in the West Bank. All of it is Palestinian land. The settlements are all illegal and though they are occupied by Israelis, they are not Israeli land.
thewiffenpoof 8 months ago 46
@thewiffenpoof very well said.
WinkyMaeve 8 months ago
@thewiffenpoof Well said.
thesparitan 8 months ago
FIX....AUDIO...
thinkppl 8 months ago
The Torah is the Israelis Mein Kampf.
soundslave 8 months ago 2
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No.
DarthCadeous501 8 months ago
@DarthCadeous501 no... what?
soundslave 8 months ago
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DarthCadeous501 8 months ago
A small victory for non violence resistance against a violent NAZI like occupier and aggressor !
vitalalive69 8 months ago 4
Pretty sure the BBC reported it on their site.
MoOtJeMan 8 months ago
It sounds nice this but it looks to me as a Pyrus victory. 6 years is a long time and a lot of lost time..
freshhug 8 months ago
transcribe audio at around 0:59
= Cenk: "lololololol"
illusion0delusion 8 months ago
@illusion0delusion * 0:56 ish
illusion0delusion 8 months ago
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ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHUAKBAR!!!!
GDI109 8 months ago
Watch the video of the IDF chucking tear gas and flash bangs at protesters.
Snowboarder3195 8 months ago
Cenk you must also give credit to Israel for doing their part to create peace. You also fail to mention that this wall was installed to prevent terrorism, not to steal land. Finally, you need to stop treating Israel's government as an evil dictatorship. If they were, there is no way they would have listened to Palestinian protesters.
dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver Need i remind you that they listened to protesters and it took 6 YEARS! DOWN WITH THE EVIL DICTATORS AND ZIONISTS! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 You have no proof that they even took it down because of the protesters. They are probably just doing it for future peace negotiations. And they are NOT dictators. Israel is a democracy.
dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver They are dictators. they kill innocent children and women. Thats what the definition of terrorism and dictator is.
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 dictionary definition of dictator - "ruler with total power over a country"
your definition isn't even close
dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver Definition for totalitarian regime: See Israel
Definition for Israel: See totalitarian regime.
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 You are a totalitarian moron.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@sunRsaturn Im afraid, what i said was the truth. I know the truth hurts, but you will get over it :) LONG LIVE PALESTINE! DOWN WITH THE ZIONIST REGIME!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 You should be afraid what you said was a lie.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@sunRsaturn YOU should be afraid that i tell nothing but the truth. Kill all zionists. Long Live Palestinians and Jews in peace and harmony!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 Where? In Palestine? 2 states is 1 and 23. That's not even harmony in math.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@sunRsaturn pre 1948. Before israhell existed.
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 Where did the Western Wall come from? Palestine? You the ones who all need to go back to Europe and England. No one really stole more land than you. Or the Arabs can go back to southern Arabia. Israel is the native land of the Jews. You afraid it might become a trend?
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@sunRsaturn Lol, firstly correct you grammar and spelling, it sounds like you're a ten year old. Secondly, pre1948 did Israel exist? No. Did Palestine exist? Yes. Swallow your humanity!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 Correct your sick head. You sound like an imbecile. And yes, Israel existed pre 1948. Like the United Kingdom of Israel ruled by King David.
sunRsaturn 8 months ago
@RAF7430 The Palestine of pre and post 1948 are two distinctly separate states.
shirehorse9 8 months ago
@shirehorse9 Thats got absolutely NOTHING to do with what i posted. It didnt even begin to refute my previous arguments.
RAF7430 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver Exactly.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
FREE FREE PALESTINE! KILL ALL ZIONISTIC PIGS!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@RAF7430 there is no Palestine, it's called Israel. It is a Jewish state now get over it so we can talk peace
dmcarefuldriver 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver Looks like i touched a nerve there. PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE!
RAF7430 8 months ago
@dmcarefuldriver In other words
"My boot is stomping on your head, stop complaining while I kick your teeth in"
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rogerwilsonwilson6 8 months ago
@thatamazinggeek Great argument! I'll keep the land I stole because I can use it better than they do! This is not about which political regime is better. It's about the true ownership of land.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa "Land I stole"? you're gullible to accept Arab claims of land ownership with no proof of ownership.
starcatcher2222 8 months ago
@starcatcher2222 Maybe you don't realize we're not talking about real estate here. A whole country has been raped. "no proof of ownership"? ever heard of history? Oh, right! You must have read your own version of that.
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The only person who can completely fix this mess in Palestine and Israel is President Sarah Palin! Palin will put both Netanyahu and the Palestinian leaders in their place! Netanyahu is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCHES and PUSSIES! Palin is VASTLY SUPERIOR to this DIRTY JEW in every single way. Cenk will feel the WRATH and FURY of GOD HERSELF for being too pro-Palestinian!
ecwaufisxtreme 8 months ago
#LOL - Cenk's Jew-hatred does not let him also congratulate Israel for this move towards peace.
A. The security wall was installed because of the suicide bombers the Pals sent to kill civilians 6 years ago
B. Belin protested that that measure was unfair, it went to court and the Israeli courts agreed that it was too restrictive.
Sounds like both sides acted well here...
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@kFIRmAGNOON Yeah yeah, we get it. Everyone who criticizes the Israeli government is an Anti-Semite. Bigots.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa you better get it bro, anti zionism, criticism of israel, that is called anti semitism, NEVER AGAIN BRO, anti semitism, anti semitism.
WinkyMaeve 8 months ago
@WinkyMaeve How is anti-Zionism and criticism of Israel anti-Semitism?! Does your democracy deny people the basic right of discussing political views?! Zionism is not a race and there's nothing wrong about criticizing it. The world is now mature enough to know that your "never again" accusations are blatant lies. No one is as deep in genocide and ethnic cleansing as Israel.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa we are NOT going back to those gas chambers you anti semite!
WinkyMaeve 8 months ago
@WinkyMaeve no one wishes that , Yet! Get the peace process going in Palestine, not Auchwitz.
hamrite 8 months ago
@WinkyMaeve No one is trying to do that. For your info, I AM a Semite! Stop using that cheap line to justify the killing of innocent Arabs. Your ancestors didn't die for you to use that as an excuse for terrorism. Israel is the new Nazi Germany. Shame on you!
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa dude I am mocking the over zealous Jews that scream anti semitism at every turn, relax man.
WinkyMaeve 8 months ago
@WinkyMaeve You'd be surprised how many Zionists actually say that stuff.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa Most people haven't looked up what Zionism is.
The point of Zionism was to secure a Jewish state.
As far as I'm concerned, every country are Zionists as they secured a state for their own people, especially the Arab countries.
MsAlternativexxx 8 months ago
@MsAlternativexxx Except the fact that Zionists are willing to ignore any kind of morals and humanity in the process.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa
Instead of praising both sides for a constructive resolution (finally),
Cenk's praises the Palestinian "victory"
In Cenk's zero-sum game, a Pal victory is an Israeli defeat.
He is critical of the Israeli gov. even when it gives back land for peace.
Cenk does not sound fair & balanced here - he sounds full of hatred.
Is Cenk a bigot? Well, if exhibiting intolerance, and animosity towards those of differing race, ethnicity, religion, or nationality is being a bigot, then yes.
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@kFIRmAGNOON Why praise the oppressor? Seriously, is it anti-semitic if I don't praise the holy dignified government of Israel? That is the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. Israel did a mistake 6 years ago and only now is it (not really) correcting it. That doesn't deserve any "praise" in my book.
gorogawa 8 months ago 54
@gorogawa
The "mistake" of building a security fence, is what kept "peaceful" Palestinians from murdering civilians on a regular basis.
Though it seems those murdered Jews do not fit into your world view.
The "mistake", as Cenk alluded to, is the Palestinian insistence on terror to resolve issues- as he notes peaceful resolution is rare.
If "peaceful" Arab states did not attack Israel in 1967, this would not even be an issue- was that Israel’s fault too?
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@kFIRmAGNOON hey buddy, go take your Jewish Israeli propaganda somewhere else, no one believes the lies you zionists spew anymore.
WinkyMaeve 8 months ago
@WinkyMaeve
Open a history book buddy
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@kFIRmAGNOON If "peaceful" Zionist terrorist groups like the Haganah hadn't killed the innocent people of Palestine (Muslim, Christian, AND Jewish) for land then the Arabs wouldn't have had to react. Occupying land is indefensible. And any attempt to justify that is pure evil. End of discussion.
gorogawa 8 months ago
@gorogawa
“The Young Turks” of the Islamic Ottoman Empire, who "occupied" Israel, Palestine, and all of the Middle East less than 100 years ago, never gave the “Palestinians” a state.
The Jordanians and Egyptians, who owed the West Bank / Gaza before 1967, never gave the “Palestinians” a state.
Why? Because “Palestinians” are simply the people who lived in that area – they never had a “state” to take from.
Israel is "occupying" land that Jordan and Egypt lost and refuse to take back!
kFIRmAGNOON 8 months ago
@gorogawa -- Cheapening praise by giving it when one is normally expected to do the humane thing anyway doesn't serve any useful purpose, and it diminishes the merits of those who are actually going above and beyond to help others in the face of injustice. This applies to nations, people, cultures, companies and every other type of entity.
crimsonhalo13 8 months ago
@crimsonhalo13 I'm sorry, what are you replying to? Are you trying to convince me to praise Israel, too? Because you know that's just ridiculous.
gorogawa 8 months ago