2. Who Is Jesus? - Jesus Christ / Joseph Smith

[scottwins2]

I won't worship a Christ that prays to himself either nor has JUST a spirit. My Christ has a body and prays to the Father. He was resurrected people! he has his body back is that too hard? He ate fish to prove it! He and the Father are one in purpose no The One Plato taught or The Devine.

[scottwins2]

Howard W. Hunter "Joseph Smith's...truthfulness...that he saw the Father and the Son... to the reality of that divine revelation. He was..to reestablish the true and living church, restored...as it existed in the day of the Savior's own mortal ministry...he said: 'I understand my mission and business. God Almighty is my shield; and what can man do if God is my friend? I shall not be sacrificed until my time comes; then I shall be offered freely'

[scottwins2]

How great indeed is our debt to [Joseph Smith]... It was he who brought us a true knowledge of God the Eternal Father and His Risen Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. During the short time of his great vision he learned more concerning the nature of Deity than all of those who through centuries had argued that matter in learned councils and scholarly forums. Gordaon B. Hinkley

[scottwins2]

Christianity today believes in the God of Plato, NeoPlatoism came about by Plato declaring there was only three things that could exist forever TRUTH, BEAUTY, and the GOOD. He later taught these were "THE ONE" or "THE DEVINE". 425 yrs later the Sadducees and Pharisiees followed this creed. God, Jesus?, They had no bodies, "kill him"! they said. Philosophers after Jesus influenced what was written in the Bible, giving "The Devine One" precident. Niacea!, God and Jesus Christ were JUSTa SPIRIT!

[monicacristina319]

the LDS church is false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skydiver2626]

So when Jesus was on the earth, he prayed to who, himself? When he was on the cross and said "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" he was talking to himself outloud?

"I am the Way," replied Jesus, "the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me."(John 14:6) so before you can see Jesus the father you have to go through jesus the man, I must of missed reading a versus somewhere.

[wannawatchu66]

The Bible is the mark of the Beast?

Have you gone on your mission yet? If so, did you carry that Mark of the Beast around with you along with your Book of Mormon, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price?

Just curious...

[BIBLEisMARKofBEAST]

You cannot KNOW Jesus from reading about Him in History. That is why there are so many different doctrines out there.

You can only KNOW HIM by the HOLY GHOST.

The BIBLE is the MARK of the BEAST!

[IRISHBUDDAFILTH]

King Foillette Discourses sums up mormonism for the most part!!!

[holyspiritoftruth]

"I am the Way," replied Jesus, "the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me."(John 14:6)

Truth Synonyms: fact, veracity, sincerity, candor, frankness, precision, exactness... Antonyms: falsehood, falsity, untruth...

Life Synonyms: existence, being, living... Antonyms: death, nonexistence...

May God bless you in finding Him, the TRUTH.

[lakayna]

Joseph Smith? what a liar

[NorthwestResistance]

I find it funny how they only allow Protestant scholars to be interviewed. If this documentary were worth anything, it would let Mormon scholars speak for themselves and articulate their beliefs rather than allow people at conflict with Mormon theology to say, "this is what they believe and this is why it's wrong."

[ilindah]

'jesus' is the almight creator of all?? then who is 'god' then??

[TRexTurtle]

How could he be the brother of an angel if he created angels?

[irvano83]

0:28 He says "We needed a saviour to pay for our sins"

How can satan then tell God "send me"????

didn't sin came because of satan?

LDS is false teaching.

The Bible is true...it's written; many people will rise and preach false Christs.

[Jackthemeat]

Satan is my spirit brother

[carlasue88]

Revelation 12 says Satan is an ANGEL, not a spirit brother of Christ. God is above Satan, not an equal or brother.

[LDSTrueChurch]

. Hugh Nibley commenting on our research (Nov 7, 2003), "...After this, those who challenge the Book of Mormon will have some heavy explaining to do."

jefflindsay . com

fairlds . org

All the new evidence pointing to geography and physical evidence found since 2003 makes the Smithsonian Institutes Statement of 1996 about obsolete.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leads its church by revelation just as the true church ever has.

[SaintJohn86]

What should a person believe more, a book that never changes the Bible(KJV) or the Momorn bible which changes, whenever the church comes under trouble

[vcomp1960]

What new evidence? You better let the Smithsonian know about this.

[William00048]

You need to explain that the Book of Mormon says the America's were populated by two families from Jerusalem not speaking Aramaic but Reformed Egyptian.

The minimum viable population is 160, not explained how Adam and Eve managed. How Noah managed. How Lot and his daughters managed euw! Lastly, how Nephi and his family managed.

DNA should support your claim, but no. The Americas were populated exclusively by Asians. Oh, last week, oldest found body in Greenland, Siberian-American markers.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

Why Mormonism has the wrong Jesus.

Google search the following. Select first choice!

"Jesus Christ is God Incarnate"

Jesus Christ is God and the proofs

[swiftabulous]

This video seeks to ignore Mormon doctrine that Christ was the creator, Jehovah of the Old Testament. The only aspect of our doctrine that truly seperates us from mainstream Christianity is the concept that we were there in the beginning with God and His Christ. God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are the Godhead. They are not one Person as mainstream Christianity professes, for this goes against even the Bible, but they are perfectly and beautifully united in all things

[vcomp1960]

I think you forgot about polygamy........DoC 132.................and 100's of other odd and evil things.

[swiftabulous]

I think you forgot about polygamy......Abraham, Jacob, David, etc........and 100's of other things from the Bible that mainstream Christianity ignores but Mormonism incorporates. Who said the Bible never changes? That is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Whatever you want to believe must be true.....

[ryovann]

exam the history and find out the similar concept jesus sun of God and hercules sun of zeus, constantine's responsbility

[RedBallMovies]

come on why does everyone have to be such losers why cant you respect peoples beliefs and not have anything to say about it. at least these people have hope and faith, you people will have nothing when you die.

[tsirhCsuseJihad]

...infidels...jesus was just a glorified jew.

[lumakid]

there 1s no such thing as jesus! it's 2009 fer christ sake!grow up,no more fairytales! i hope your not teaching kids this crap! it's child abbuse. christianity is dead long live intelligent thought and reason!burn all bibles!LUMAKID sez no more jesus faggots

[lbuggold]

if god made all things it does not say in the bible howe Jesus done this Colossians 1:16

[lumakid]

christianity and jesus are thru!!! thus spake the lumakid u will here more from me... a LOT more

[ragonaaa]

when deedat still lived nobody dare to debate with him...

[thtdope]

To Simplify... God is real, Jesus Is the Son of God. They are one in spirit but only difference in personality but with one mind. He dose his fathers works one earth. Even now through us who believe. Last but not lest... READ the Word (meaning read the bible). /creflo dollar ministries

[lumakid]

the bible is a peice of crap written to control sheep & supersticious morons like urself! to simplify, god, jesus; and the bible are total bullshit that have no place in 2009! this religius nonsense it at an end! i will destroy it myself! lumakid p.s. i'm taking xtianity out,motherfukers

[shawn45766]

if jesus was god in the flesh why did he teach everything about his father? not everyone that says lord lord will enter into heaven but he that does the will of my father wich is in heaven. why did he say father forgive them for they know not what they do? whas he praying to himself? i doubt it. read your bible and it will tell you how false this video is and that the mormon church teaching is right. christ is the son of the father and he sits at the right hand of the father.

[lumakid]

enuff with this jesus bullshit! maybe 4 stupid mexicans, but not 4 thinking adults! lumakid saying "jesusfukingchristallmighty" religion is dead! long live the thinking mind

[MMMission2007]

For a review of the movie above visit:

w w w . en . fairmormon . o r g / Search _ for _ the _ Truth _ DVD / Who _ is _ Jesus

[beancube2008]

God-hood and priest-hood what is the difference. They are our words of myths. Belief is truth. The mind decides how true is truth, so we pick those clever mind to define belief, but we have to decide how to believe who and how is clever. We then choose nothing except wars.

[LeeKwangEng]

You need No Bible to tell you who GOD is.

It is personal spiritual experience.

All books are cults if you dont understand the pure meaning. Let God be your personal friend. Other than that, are all bullshit!

[avantexec]

Assuming there is no God there could be no order. If there was no order there would be no happines. If there is a God he must create order. If there is order there can be purpose. With purpose there can be happiness.

[LeeKwangEng]

With Order, that means there exist order,if you do not understand what suffering is,how can you assume you know what is happiness? Order exist, law of cause and effect exist, without knowing this and trying to know the source of order is naive,know the order and you will know the purpose of the order. If you assume order created by GOD,GOD exist,then let me tell you the truth,all existence will perish.I do agreee that with purpose there can be happiness.Happiness exist imply suffering exist too.

[GodLovedJosephSmith]

The book of Mormon is another witness that Jesus Christ is God and the savior of the Earth for all men and women of every nation. The Book of Mormon is the Word of God and it's really wonderful seeing the archaeological finds in recent years showing PROOF the BoM is true and authentic and shows Joseph Smith's divine calling by God, Jesus of Nazareth forever and ever, amen.

[samtorrance5590]

We need the bible because it tells us about the coming of the messiah (through prophets) and then the actual coming of the messiah (fulfillment). The bible holds the law which shows us our sin, and holds the information for how we are saved from our sin.

[gendoboy]

they misquoted abraham!!! haha

[babyjedmusic]

christianity is a cult too you self righteous bastard

[faustus999]

is'nt it great to see whitey jesus!! i thought he was a dark skinned jew.. born a jew practised jew ways and died a jew..JEW

[riversideharp]

Do you honestly think Jesus Christ looks at our skin color in judgment? My Jesus Christ looks on the inside, and no focus on racial stratifications of our society.

[ma2centsworth]

About Joseph Smith, Jesus said that there was no one to come after him. No one shall be sent after him. We read the same bible right? How are we that even the plain texts of the bible, we could not comprehend.

[riversideharp]

Why has G_d changed for you, look at the evidence in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Rome murdered the Apostles of Jesus Christ, the Church was destroyed without proper authority. Yet, Saints throughout the day of Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Job, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and so on they needed Prophets and Jesus set Peter, James, and John as Prophets, so what makes today's religion of Jesus Christ who is the same yesterday, today, forever?

[riversideharp]

Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:"

Did not the One Jesus Christ command us to have faith and believe in His name, repent, and be baptized by water, and of the Holy Spirit?

To put off the evil thoughts and ways and be holy like Jesus Christ through the Atonement power of grace?

[zercool1966]

is christ was god in the flesh who was it that said when christ was baptized this is my beloved son in whom i am well pleased, was christ so vain that he threw his voice so all can hear

[ma2centsworth]

Jesus is not Father God, Jesus said, "Why call me good!, Only God is good". But it's true that we receive oneness when we are enlightened. Oneness with the Father. We should not worship Jesus but his father. He never did give any law that we should worship him like a god. I feel pity for the less educated Christians who are misled by their pastors.

[poodlepink]

ok colossians 1:16 good now read only three verses later, colossians 1:19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

[slimguy9090]

Acts 5:

37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

[bsas73]

This is so inspirational to the point I want to vomit. There are so many references to the bible and the attack to the mormons. the question is? WHY? 1- How DO YOU know the bible is true? DO you know its origins? the number of translations its been through? WHEN all these questions are answered then you can TEACH...was there ever a JESUS or is it the OLD SUN thats been adored for eons, remember the egyptians??? got something more to tell?

[riversideharp]

That is a very good point you make. Many do not understand this fact. Nevertheless, there is the Holy Bible that is a witness that Jesus Christ is the only way to Eternal happiness. The Book of Mormon also is a witness that Jesus Christ is the Holy One of Israel. Ezekiel 37 there are two sticks that testify of One Word even Jesus Christ the Savior and Creator of us all that believes Him.

[justice4abi]

if you would only study the holy bible and nothing else....then you will know that it proves mormonism to be absolutely false. my dad gave me that advise when i joined the church of moremanlies and after 17 yrs i found out the hard way that he was right. my heart aches for the mormons who are in denial and for the ones that know the church is false but do nothing about it. to many good people left the church with a broken heart and angry that they were taught lies. god bless

[riversideharp]

It is very interesting that your heart aches for Saints of Jesus Christ of the Latter-days. Do you truly believe Jesus Christ only saves people of your religion? Do you not know that the Jesus Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah or Yah, I am, etc of the Old Testament? Did not Moses receive the High Priest office by Jethro who was not an Israeli? Did not the 3 Magi from the East of the Near East believe in Jesus Christ, were they not saved? Do not be ignorant of the nature of Christ.

[riversideharp]

My first 27 years of my life, I did just that. However the scientist in me had to see the facts as they really are. Thus I looked beyond the Bible, and turned to science. It was the Book of Mormon that brought me to Jesus Christ and understand the Bible.

Answer me this, do you believe in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[LeeKwangEng]

You are absolutely right!

Christian believe in Bible, which written that there is only one GOD, then it must be true, and it is written saying Jesus raised from the dead, then it is true. With no other knowledge of

1) History of how Bible passages are being selected, how the other passages are being destroy, procecuted, murdered, assasinated, conquered, silenced, cheated. The history of Christianity are full of sins.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

THis video is so true its scary!

[revelations146]

No, it's just scary!

[marcocharleshennebur]

fuck god god is a fucking scam there is no Jesus came back to live a bunch of jews just nailed a jew to a cross thats it and some fucker used this to make a scam to keep people in order what he is saying is follow theese rules or god will hate you fuck god it is all a lie there is no such thing as the devil or god FUCK christans are stupied

[italianscool]

There is a God,and Jesus loves you.

[thealmostrocks]

Jesus loves you whether you believe it or not and he died for you and thats what you say to him. Man i pray you dont go into eternity thinking that, it would be a shame for your sakes.

[102303113]

read the bible and get right with christ you think you know more than GOD BUT YOU DO NOT AND YOU WILL FRY IN HELL

[1nn0senseL0st]

Okay this Bible propaganda is absurd.

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

No mention of holy spirit, no mention of Jesus.

no, its very strict in what it says...

in the begining, was the word, and that word was God.

Acts 2:22 is further proof.

[slbrail87]

Jesus is the Word, dude.

[1nn0senseL0st]

so if Jesus was the word

then he was the first man not adam?

[slbrail87]

The Bible says Jesus is the Word. Adam was the first man.

[1nn0senseL0st]

Jesus is the word?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (john 1:1)

actually perfect timing friend, ive just found the 'silver bullet'

God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent

(NUMBERS 23:19)

Jesus was man yes?

then Jesus wasn't God, dude

[italianscool]

Why dont you read the rest of John chapter 1?Jesus is the Word.Compare Isaiah 48:12 with Revelation 1:17-18.Who do you think the First and Last is?Read Hebrews 1:8 what does God call the son?Read Acts 5:1-4 The Holy Ghost is God.

[josiemclaren]

this may sound weird but i am a former lds church member though I chose to follow the left hand path i still believe the lds church principles are correct and though it probably has it's dark side (like all churches) this and all othar videos are wrong in their statements i'm not saying the church is perfect or holds the absolute truth i'm just saying that this videos hold no truth and are not based on real church materials but rather rely on half truthsand lies

[italianscool]

Jesus Christ loves you friend.Read the gospels and you will see what he is really about.You are precious to God.He loves every one who is commenting and he wants to be a part of all of our lives!

[TruthSpotter]

Check out the rebuttle to the lies and half truths of this video. at FairLDS dot Org.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

Joseph destroyed not restored. Mormons say that it feels right. well read 2nd corinthians 11:13. Christians have a historical and spiritual faith. Somtimes a road which looks like, feels like and sounds like it goes in the right direction infact goes in the quite the oposite. Worship the God of the Bible only. God does not like Blaspheme. He said so.

[wbridges75]

Silly Mormons, you will burn in Hell, for you have the same desires that Lucifer had to be GOD. Like him you too will be thrown into the lake of fire, with your father where you belong. You blasphem God, the Son and the Spirit, there is only one unforgivable sin, the Blasphem against the Spirit. Open your eyes and your ears, there is only ONE GOD.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

Brigham Young taught a much greater extreme. In a sermon given on March 8, 1863, Young stated, "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so" (Journal of Discourses, 10:110). The Negros!

[globglob2]

Someday scientists will dig up Joseph Smith and find that he had the genes of a lying pychopath. He would be doing hard time if he was alive today, for his broad array of crimes. What a lowlife dirtbag liar he was. And some people still believe his nonsense stories today! Foolish and sad.

[sdenker20]

You really think so? Have you studied his life or the church that he restored?

[nlllvqkers]

It's not a a matter of "thinking so." Smith actually was a criminal in his own time; the NY court records are still available. Mormons opine that "researching" their church will bring conversion, but a thorough un-earthing of the secretive and embarrassing LDS history will, with help from the Lord, bring these lost sheep back into the fold.

[SidepocketPro]

Question then: How is this bad? Jesus himself was arrested for being a political enemy of the Roman Empire and was even prosecuted further than Smith via being sentencing him to the death penalty.

[nlllvqkers]

Smith is alleged to have died with a gun in his hand - not very Christ-like. Also, his reckless, irresponsible and life-threatening burning of the printing press triggered his imprisonment and demise. Further, Christ didn't tell young girls that, unless they went to bed with him, then neither they nor their parents would see Heaven. Is everyone who's arrested to be considered a just, righteous prophet? "Many[unrighteous] will peform wonders in My name," says the Lord.

[Outlaw1257]

I have!! That's what led me to discover th Truth behind the fascade of LDS. REaserched in depth, for 3 yrs. Smith?? A lying abomiation.

[Outlaw1257]

sdenker20

I HAVE studied Smith's life & the church he "Rrestored". I have studied in depth as well. "Milk before meat"?? Kiss MY ass!! I'll dig for the truth, Thank You.

The more I studied JS & LDS, the more glaringly apparrant the lies, fallacies, & fraud of LDS became.

[evocomps]

The only thing you have studied is BIGOTRY. Personally, I don't care if you believe that Joseph Smith received revelation from God himself or not, but with a wife and two kids, there is no church on the face of the planet that teaches better family and social values that will teach them to be great fathers and husbands when they are older.

Please sir, tell me, what is wrong with that?

[jprobert1987]

They do have great family values, its true. But that has nothing to do nor does it change the fact that their doctrine is false.

Speaking of Bigotry what does Mormonism believe about black people again?