to distract everyone else from what? i fear you might have missed one of my points. i argued that people are technologies, built by several influences: evolution by natural selection over billions of years, by other people, and by themselves. in my opinion we are technologies that build other technologies to extend our reach.
So if mnemes, beneficial or parasitic, occupy the same real estate in the brain, is there a possibility that these mnemes can undergo a form of reproduction via fusion/juxtaposition/other means of blending thoughts and ideas? This seems to be the missing link in the "mnemes are living things" argument.
there is a possibility. one thing i've noticed also is that there are many ways to express an idea (different combos/sequences of adjectives, nouns, and verbs) and that the meme is perhaps more stable than the smaller components used to express it (the specific adjectives, nouns, and verbs are less predictable than the idea). i agree also that whole new synthesis of ideas comes from recombination when an individual thinks/writes/converses with someone.
I was going to post something clever or thought provoking. Then I saw the top comment. So, instead I will resort to OMG HIS HEAD MOVES and What does he use and where can I get some (if the answer really is sleep, I need to learn your sleep patterns, mine sucks and I"ve always believed that you should explore other people's habits and integrate favourable ones).
i didnt get very far, but i already feel like this video is employing ridiculous logic. Believing the truth is always good for you, because it allows to deal with the problems of your life realistically. Believing the future is bleak isnt inherently bad for you in any way. Believing that the world is doomed(the real basis for fatalism), would be bad, only because its not a given truth. You see how this works? Keeping your beliefs as realistic as possible is only a good thing.
u can believe that something bad in the future will happen and precipitate it by self fulfilling prophecy. optimism in the present is important. that's why being pessimistic about the future before knowing what the future will bring is bad for you, even though it is possible for a bleak future to unfold regardless of your optimism/motivation.
I expect robots to be as qualified as we need and at least as nice as me; I'm hopeful for a nice world with them doing things we hate; Robots can include humans; I have already become an android, and would have at least been worsely retarded if I hadn't;My best blood sugar control's thanks to the medtronic insulin pump;
haha, he talks BS about god and then suddenly his vid gets thumbs down... and here i thought religion was all about loving your fellow man... you religious people... please go kill yourself, your god is waiting for you with open arms *cough* why let him wait for you? do the rest of us that favor please ;)
(continued previously) So if an understanding of self-reality comes from the brain, but not the existence its actual informational contents, do we assume that the information manifests self-reality in the physical domain of the brain? In other words, the brain's patterning isn't who you are, but designs for an administrator to reign control over your [those connected to the brain] senses and self-consciousness?
"you" is a malleable term, and i'd argue that the borders of a self aren't fixed and are created and recreated through interactions. i'd argue that "you" are both your brain and it's contents and "you" change along with your brain as you do new things. "you" are also your deepest memories and the contents of you brain that don't change. "you" isn't possible without language.
All the complex slanguage and superfluous language aside, I have an interesting idea to contribute. Going back to the idea of brain and neuron duplication and uploading to another substrate, if you were to do that it is very clear that you wouldn't be able to see through the eyes of your psychological and neurological clone, and neither would it be able to according to your eyes. (continued)
Okay. I wasn't suggesting when I asked the rhetorical question 'which one would you be?' that the senses of the duplicates post-split would be bound together. @alttaab already said what I think you were trying to say "it's an incorrect question." In your wording also you assume identity with one over the other when you refer to the "clone" as "it" taking implicit primacy over "it". But both copies would have equal ownership over said identity.
I apologize if I did not make this clear enough, but I was intending to propose an entirely new idea, not extend the point you made. I simple drew the reference line in order to explain where the idea came from. Also, I was not referring to who owns the identity, I was referring to where the consciousness of the original would lie, and why. Again, apologies for making that unclear.
Although they are both the original, the moment that one is cloned from the other they immediately become different objects occupying different spaces in time with a different viewpoint on reality. I was simply making the point that if a person was cloned, although there would exist two people with exactly the same past and thoughts, each one of those people would only be able to perceive one half of their total consciousness. (continued)
Meaning that an individual's consciousness comes from a higher administrative creation of the brain, and not simply the existence of particular neurological pathways, otherwise each person [who are now different simply by their position in the universe and in their confrontation of each other] would be able to perceive the other's senses. That was my original point, I understood everything at that part in the video, I was presenting a new idea. Please try to understand.
Thanks. As an extension of the consciousness idea I just outlined, this means that unfortunately, if a person's consciousness was uploaded to another substrate post-mortem, that the original person would still be dead, there would simply exist a copy of him or her. :\ Without a brain transplant, continued life after death therefore isn't possible.
it's tricky. one could argue that a person is reborn many times throughout their own life. and an exact copy brings up identity issues with how we understand identity now. ...the higher administrative creation that latches onto the brain, what is it? its a meme, an information pattern that may be hierarchically and holistically above neuro pathways but still bound to them and part of them. if we replicate this, it brings up serious ethical issues.
Replying to that, the reborn multiple times thing is unnecessary because it's an observation that doesn't change the way we actually live our lives. For all we know [as illogical as it sounds] a giant lizard from some ethereal realm has imagined us all. That [potential] fact doesn't matter in our eyes. I already proposed the middle section ideas, but I am confused as to how you could even attempt to replicate the meme, when it exists simply due to its current physical existence.
the self meme is a specific representational structure whose stability exists mainly in the present. the self meme is reproduced in/by the brain many times in one's life. just because you have a name and a history (a cultural identity) and can logically deduce events in your past and create goals for the future, doesn't make this self-meme any less light nor unreplicable on principle
If you are willing to make the statement that the self meme is reproduced many times, it is my moral obligation to ask you for an example of when the self meme (self-consciousness) is reproduced in the brain. As for the self-meme changing on principle, I would argue that this only occurs in the incredibly mentally deranged. I do not know of normal human beings undergoing massive identity changes overnight without traumatic experiences playing a substantial role.
I sincerely feel bad that you felt that this discussion was an argument. I honestly quite enjoyed discussing legitimately important ideas with another intelligent human being. I'll look into Thomas Metzinger as a favor to you. Byebye for now, Aqwaddict.
@ClearCritic would you mind making that link public for those that have followed this exchange? thank you. ps. more people read your conversations than you think.
You could use an autocerebroscope on a blind person. Stick electrods on his brain, run an EEG, sound code it, teach him the sound code, let him listen while you run it on him. Or you could do it via force feedback. Make vibration take the waveform of the EEG, stick a ps2 controller in his hands, stand back, enjoy.
I would like to complain about the notion that the root of "science" means "to cut".
Science comes from the Latin word "scire", meaning "to know". The word you were looking for is "secare" ("to cut"), which, admittedly, sounds similar, but those two should not be confused with regard to meaning.
Does the latin verb 'scire' to know relate to the verb 'scinde' to cut or divide?
Yes, they both ultimately derive from the Indo-European root "skei-" meaning "to divide." "Scire" meant originally "to divide, to discern, to tell one thing from another" and then later "to know."
Interesting point on arboreal selectivity. Termites give off methane, and they help to clear dead trees, along with fungi...could it be that the trees do not respond negatively to the methane, because the creatures/plants which create the methane are beneficial to the growth of new trees?
Hello, ClearCritic, have you heard of a YouTuber by the name of InMendham? He recently started a clipbucket aggregate site called Vloggerdome. He argues for antinatalism, and is a firm believer that there is no free will. He has some pretty good rants, but he is informationally challenged. I think he could use someone like you to debate him, or back him. You could set him straight on semantics and terminology. Think about it. Great video...cool pad, too! Rock on!
Mind = blown so many times... Would be nice to have a little more structure to the argument though. I find videos difficult to follow when there is no real splitting up into separate sections. Write a book and Id buy it though.
Watched the video again and something struck me. When you were discussing brain uploading and asked the question, "Which one is you?" I was thinking that might be an incorrect question, kind of like "What's south of the south pole?" Just a thought.
Here's why youtube depresses me, I find a video covering a range of interesting topics that I find stimulating, and I think to myself "I wonder what others watching this think about it all.." only to then find an endless stream of comments such as this "OMG HIS HEAD MOVES!!!! D:". Yes it does, get the fuck over it, it's not an interesting fact, have you nothing better to say?
@ClearCritic Would LOVE audio recordings of your rants! Canadians are charged by bandwidth usage so watching your 10+ minute vids more than once, even at 240p, chews that usage up. Plus having you on my mp3 player would be sick.
@thejeppacompany I imagine he's very engaged in what he's saying, and I kind of like that. It's disarming. A lot of people have quirks when they get excited.
@ClearCritic I'm a first year and whenever I meet one of those people who seem to know a lot about everything scientific I feel like I've wasted my time. Definitely want to be one of you someday.
@ClearCritic What do you study? Anthropology? I also have to thank you for the best video on youtube for a long time (and TJ for pointing it out). But I would like to know why do you champion pragmatism so wholeheartedly, as opposed to the theoretical/idealistic, which is the basis for the mathematical part of physics and has been proven to be essential to the human pursuit of knowledge. I'm just arguing for balance, prevarication is the root of religion and as an atheist i despise it.
if idealism works for you, then i'm all for it. i am probably an idealist by nature and i have to remind myself to be practical at times for my own good. i wanted to throw in the nuance of beliefs that are true and bad for you, because at the end of the day we are biological organisms who have to be self-interested for survival. e.g. one can argue that clothing is a source of needless repression in our species, but that wouldn't make a nude stroll around town a good idea
i was raised bilingual, so that might've been helpful. keep in mind i built this video, i don't go around spewing this sort of thing to people in my day to day. the best advice i can give in terms of general improvement of thinking/ speaking is to have a doubtful mindset, care about the goals you set for yourself, and speak whenever you find an opportunity too. you probably already knew that though
Oh wow... Feedback loops... That's what I must be feeling now while I watch this vid, cause it's that good. And I'm sorry for the multiposting, just.. WOW... Your talking is just that good... And I'm so blown away I can't think up anything better to say then, your just THAT GOOD...
I keep having to pause the vid because of mind overload... Your just that good... Your just that good... And I hope you feel better at reading this text.
I subed for great use of the term meme... Just wow... Brain boom! You so smart it make me type even supider then normal... Well good thing I've not yet gotten to the the "chat speak" or l33t speak stuff. Lets just post this and get back to wacthing great vid.
Oh, by the way. I think you'll appreciate the community we have on YouDoubled (it's like the re-incarnation of FreeSpeechVids, but headed by ConferenceReport). I'm not sure it's open to public registration yet, but I'll ask him to make you a username if not. Most of the people there so far are into philosophical discussion.
Subbed. It's so very refreshing to hear coherent, intelligent trains of thought with insight. Simply glorious compared to the everyday nonsense sputtered by the majority of humans. You gave me a glimmer of hope for our species, if only for a little over 35 minutes.
If you move this much because that's the way you talk/think best, that's totally fine. If that's the case, please sit further away from the camera and not have a fish-eye effect as it causes your head to constantly move out of frame and distort.
All you're saying is very interresting but i'm totally unable to look at the video. Might be because i'm a little drunk and seeing you go back and forth makes my head hurt. I know other people said this already and it must be annoying but i just find it's too bad because this video could be really captivating if not for this. More visual information instead of just audio could help too. If your goal is to educate your viewer you should consider we learn better by both hearing and seeing sumthing
Please, FSM, please make him stop moving his head... I will do anything... even if it means taking a bath in spaghetti and not bathing for a week after.
This is by far the single most interesting, well put together, perfectly worded, insightful, intriguing, and incredibly useful video I have ever seen on YouTube. Absolutely fantastic job on it. I was only paying half attention at parts (It's a bit late where I live and I've been preoccupied, I will rewatch it with full attention tommorow) and it still amazes me how well you grasp this concept. I spent much time contemplating the same things and you gave me answers to some of them. Wonderful job.
just commenting on the part about colour. i myself have personally done experiments on my perception of colour. i was laying on a bed one time, and when i got up i noticed that in one of my eyes the colour red was more vivid, while in the other eye the colour green was more vivd. this was because the perspective of my eyes was differentiated while i was lying on my side. expose your eyes to different colours, and test how this affects each eyes perspective of colour.
the vividness you are referring to is saturation and one's eyes may have adaptation with regard to that property as eyes adapt to lightness and darkness. e.g. turn off the lights and it's super dark until a minute or two passes and then you can start to see things again. but the judgement of the color YELLOW, is a judgement of hue, and there are no gradations when it comes to that (while there may be visual adaptation on the saturation of yellow, it will be undeniably yellow)
'the belief that people are inherently good is false'
i agree with that completely. things people do determine if they are good or bad. one of my favorite movies has a quote which is as follows:
'i've seen too much religion on the eyes of too many lunatics, what god wants is here*points to heart* and here *points to head* and what you do every day. in that is holiness or...not.'
now that's a monk being quoted but his point is pretty good.
I think the statement that people are fundamentally bad needs some explanation. I happen to believe people are fundamentally good and have plenty of reasons for it. Perhaps you can clarify?
i never said people are fundamentally bad. i said it's false to believe people are fundamentally good. people do both good and bad things, but they are fundamentally neither
@ClearCritic Oh alright, that makes more sense. I'm not sure why I assumed there couldn't be a middle ground. Though I would still argue that people don't do bad things as a result of human nature but rather because of their environment.
@ClearCritic Mind you, man is the measure of "good" from man's perspective. Thus, from a human perspective, people are fundamentally good.
But, yes, from an objective, neutral and universal perspective, people are neither.
Indeed, from such an objective perspective, there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" at all. In being the measure, man gives these concepts existence - albeit only inside our own minds.
Anyway, yeah, this has distracted me. Let me get back to your video.
Also, when you started that bit about heroin i thought you were about to joke about yourself rocking back and forth, good video by the way...seriously.
I really want to like this video. Your speaking is clear and concise. Your chosen subject matter is interesting as hell, but MY GOD MAN stop bringing your face so close to me so rapidly. Seriously though good vid. Love it all except for the constant distracting movement.
you sir are a gentleman and a scholar
davu64 2 days ago in playlist PSAs
Technology exists for two reasons...
1 To protect rich people.
2 To distract everyone else.
TheDystopiaInside 1 week ago
@TheDystopiaInside
to distract everyone else from what? i fear you might have missed one of my points. i argued that people are technologies, built by several influences: evolution by natural selection over billions of years, by other people, and by themselves. in my opinion we are technologies that build other technologies to extend our reach.
ClearCritic 1 week ago in playlist PSAs 2
@TheDystopiaInside Wow, you sound pretty paranoid.
jonisaok 1 week ago
@TheDystopiaInside WHAT LOL then why are you using a computer????? Are you insane?
BluntVerbally23 1 week ago
@TheDystopiaInside Surely you're familiar with Brave New World then? Especially considering your name.
weeryan2008 1 week ago
So if mnemes, beneficial or parasitic, occupy the same real estate in the brain, is there a possibility that these mnemes can undergo a form of reproduction via fusion/juxtaposition/other means of blending thoughts and ideas? This seems to be the missing link in the "mnemes are living things" argument.
SeniorGarbonzo 2 weeks ago
@SeniorGarbonzo
there is a possibility. one thing i've noticed also is that there are many ways to express an idea (different combos/sequences of adjectives, nouns, and verbs) and that the meme is perhaps more stable than the smaller components used to express it (the specific adjectives, nouns, and verbs are less predictable than the idea). i agree also that whole new synthesis of ideas comes from recombination when an individual thinks/writes/converses with someone.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
Dude you almost look like the actor Jesse Bradford.
LyJah281 2 weeks ago
I was going to post something clever or thought provoking. Then I saw the top comment. So, instead I will resort to OMG HIS HEAD MOVES and What does he use and where can I get some (if the answer really is sleep, I need to learn your sleep patterns, mine sucks and I"ve always believed that you should explore other people's habits and integrate favourable ones).
logosloki 2 weeks ago
i didnt get very far, but i already feel like this video is employing ridiculous logic. Believing the truth is always good for you, because it allows to deal with the problems of your life realistically. Believing the future is bleak isnt inherently bad for you in any way. Believing that the world is doomed(the real basis for fatalism), would be bad, only because its not a given truth. You see how this works? Keeping your beliefs as realistic as possible is only a good thing.
ultimategoobah 2 weeks ago
@ultimategoobah
u can believe that something bad in the future will happen and precipitate it by self fulfilling prophecy. optimism in the present is important. that's why being pessimistic about the future before knowing what the future will bring is bad for you, even though it is possible for a bleak future to unfold regardless of your optimism/motivation.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
you on speed? or meth? holy crap. hahahaha.
Schutt1212 2 weeks ago
@Schutt1212
i'm on a full night's rest
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago 8
@ClearCritic Amazing that I never get that.
zenoftw 2 weeks ago
I want to throw up.
ieatu4brunch 2 weeks ago
I expect robots to be as qualified as we need and at least as nice as me; I'm hopeful for a nice world with them doing things we hate; Robots can include humans; I have already become an android, and would have at least been worsely retarded if I hadn't;My best blood sugar control's thanks to the medtronic insulin pump;
kononoko 2 weeks ago in playlist My brain
His head moves alot, and it isnt the most appealing thing to view, however the content of the video is great, thus idgaf about the bobbleheadism
Brianpowers1992 2 weeks ago
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why must you always attack the camara with your face, it hurts my eyes :P !!!!!!
DrBoneskin 2 weeks ago
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DrBoneskin 2 weeks ago
There is no good or bad people.It's just that some people are more fucked up than others.
buzzy0016 2 weeks ago
You have quite easily out-vocabularied me. Are really an expert or just a buff though?
ultraviolence6655321 2 weeks ago
haha, he talks BS about god and then suddenly his vid gets thumbs down... and here i thought religion was all about loving your fellow man... you religious people... please go kill yourself, your god is waiting for you with open arms *cough* why let him wait for you? do the rest of us that favor please ;)
fiskefyren 2 weeks ago
have you seen brainstorm 1983?
SuperAtheist 2 weeks ago
@SuperAtheist
no, any good?
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
one of the best scifi movies ever made.
SuperAtheist 2 weeks ago
@SuperAtheist
just read it's description on IMDB, thanks for the heads up
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
(continued previously) So if an understanding of self-reality comes from the brain, but not the existence its actual informational contents, do we assume that the information manifests self-reality in the physical domain of the brain? In other words, the brain's patterning isn't who you are, but designs for an administrator to reign control over your [those connected to the brain] senses and self-consciousness?
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
"you" is a malleable term, and i'd argue that the borders of a self aren't fixed and are created and recreated through interactions. i'd argue that "you" are both your brain and it's contents and "you" change along with your brain as you do new things. "you" are also your deepest memories and the contents of you brain that don't change. "you" isn't possible without language.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
All the complex slanguage and superfluous language aside, I have an interesting idea to contribute. Going back to the idea of brain and neuron duplication and uploading to another substrate, if you were to do that it is very clear that you wouldn't be able to see through the eyes of your psychological and neurological clone, and neither would it be able to according to your eyes. (continued)
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
Okay. I wasn't suggesting when I asked the rhetorical question 'which one would you be?' that the senses of the duplicates post-split would be bound together. @alttaab already said what I think you were trying to say "it's an incorrect question." In your wording also you assume identity with one over the other when you refer to the "clone" as "it" taking implicit primacy over "it". But both copies would have equal ownership over said identity.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
I apologize if I did not make this clear enough, but I was intending to propose an entirely new idea, not extend the point you made. I simple drew the reference line in order to explain where the idea came from. Also, I was not referring to who owns the identity, I was referring to where the consciousness of the original would lie, and why. Again, apologies for making that unclear.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
your misunderstanding is still apparent. BOTH ARE THE ORIGINAL and that's what makes the problem interesting.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
Although they are both the original, the moment that one is cloned from the other they immediately become different objects occupying different spaces in time with a different viewpoint on reality. I was simply making the point that if a person was cloned, although there would exist two people with exactly the same past and thoughts, each one of those people would only be able to perceive one half of their total consciousness. (continued)
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
Meaning that an individual's consciousness comes from a higher administrative creation of the brain, and not simply the existence of particular neurological pathways, otherwise each person [who are now different simply by their position in the universe and in their confrontation of each other] would be able to perceive the other's senses. That was my original point, I understood everything at that part in the video, I was presenting a new idea. Please try to understand.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
i agree. i also liked what you had to say on the FW vs. determinism vid.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
Thanks. As an extension of the consciousness idea I just outlined, this means that unfortunately, if a person's consciousness was uploaded to another substrate post-mortem, that the original person would still be dead, there would simply exist a copy of him or her. :\ Without a brain transplant, continued life after death therefore isn't possible.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
it's tricky. one could argue that a person is reborn many times throughout their own life. and an exact copy brings up identity issues with how we understand identity now. ...the higher administrative creation that latches onto the brain, what is it? its a meme, an information pattern that may be hierarchically and holistically above neuro pathways but still bound to them and part of them. if we replicate this, it brings up serious ethical issues.
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
Replying to that, the reborn multiple times thing is unnecessary because it's an observation that doesn't change the way we actually live our lives. For all we know [as illogical as it sounds] a giant lizard from some ethereal realm has imagined us all. That [potential] fact doesn't matter in our eyes. I already proposed the middle section ideas, but I am confused as to how you could even attempt to replicate the meme, when it exists simply due to its current physical existence.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
the self meme is a specific representational structure whose stability exists mainly in the present. the self meme is reproduced in/by the brain many times in one's life. just because you have a name and a history (a cultural identity) and can logically deduce events in your past and create goals for the future, doesn't make this self-meme any less light nor unreplicable on principle
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
If you are willing to make the statement that the self meme is reproduced many times, it is my moral obligation to ask you for an example of when the self meme (self-consciousness) is reproduced in the brain. As for the self-meme changing on principle, I would argue that this only occurs in the incredibly mentally deranged. I do not know of normal human beings undergoing massive identity changes overnight without traumatic experiences playing a substantial role.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
Alright i'm done arguing. If you want to read a leading expert on the subject: Thomas Metzinger - The Ego Tunnel
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
I sincerely feel bad that you felt that this discussion was an argument. I honestly quite enjoyed discussing legitimately important ideas with another intelligent human being. I'll look into Thomas Metzinger as a favor to you. Byebye for now, Aqwaddict.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic
I just purchased The Ego Tunnel from Amazon. Huzzah. Time to wait a week for it to ship.
AQWaddict 2 weeks ago
@AQWaddict
i sent you a link to a 20 minute youtube vid of the author presenting
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic would you mind making that link public for those that have followed this exchange? thank you. ps. more people read your conversations than you think.
ultimategoobah 2 weeks ago
@ultimategoobah
all the links are in the description bar
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
You could use an autocerebroscope on a blind person. Stick electrods on his brain, run an EEG, sound code it, teach him the sound code, let him listen while you run it on him. Or you could do it via force feedback. Make vibration take the waveform of the EEG, stick a ps2 controller in his hands, stand back, enjoy.
TaveTheThrasher 2 weeks ago
@TaveTheThrasher
:)
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
14:23
... AM THE FASTEST MAN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
TheToFu 2 weeks ago
I would like to complain about the notion that the root of "science" means "to cut".
Science comes from the Latin word "scire", meaning "to know". The word you were looking for is "secare" ("to cut"), which, admittedly, sounds similar, but those two should not be confused with regard to meaning.
KairisVardron 2 weeks ago
@KairisVardron
from wikianswers:
Does the latin verb 'scire' to know relate to the verb 'scinde' to cut or divide?
Yes, they both ultimately derive from the Indo-European root "skei-" meaning "to divide." "Scire" meant originally "to divide, to discern, to tell one thing from another" and then later "to know."
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
I like this
TheDjdiddles 2 weeks ago
One thing I've learned today: you're way smarter than I am.
C4Vendetta 2 weeks ago
10:13 This group is called Anonymous -_-
shadeslate 2 weeks ago
Interesting point on arboreal selectivity. Termites give off methane, and they help to clear dead trees, along with fungi...could it be that the trees do not respond negatively to the methane, because the creatures/plants which create the methane are beneficial to the growth of new trees?
Qntkka 2 weeks ago
@Qntkka
i'm not sure of the details but that ecological reasoning looks sound to me
ClearCritic 2 weeks ago
@ClearCritic Thanks!
Qntkka 2 weeks ago
Hello, ClearCritic, have you heard of a YouTuber by the name of InMendham? He recently started a clipbucket aggregate site called Vloggerdome. He argues for antinatalism, and is a firm believer that there is no free will. He has some pretty good rants, but he is informationally challenged. I think he could use someone like you to debate him, or back him. You could set him straight on semantics and terminology. Think about it. Great video...cool pad, too! Rock on!
Qntkka 2 weeks ago
Mind = blown so many times... Would be nice to have a little more structure to the argument though. I find videos difficult to follow when there is no real splitting up into separate sections. Write a book and Id buy it though.
RobbedTheBank 3 weeks ago
Watched the video again and something struck me. When you were discussing brain uploading and asked the question, "Which one is you?" I was thinking that might be an incorrect question, kind of like "What's south of the south pole?" Just a thought.
alttaab 3 weeks ago
@alttaab
interesting point
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
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07X70 3 weeks ago
Wacthing this video, the parts difficult to understand, that I have had no privious encounters with have taught me something about myself.
The ignorence of those around me, irritates me. The ignorence of the world saddens me.
And the ignorence of myself infuriates me.
MadManWoufy 3 weeks ago
awsome ideas! i love how you get crazy about things! And btw keep moving, nothin wrong about it ;)
sendiulo 3 weeks ago
I like this guy.. just wish he wouldn't move around so much.
OptikBlast 3 weeks ago
mind fucking blown
dmd33189 3 weeks ago
Here's why youtube depresses me, I find a video covering a range of interesting topics that I find stimulating, and I think to myself "I wonder what others watching this think about it all.." only to then find an endless stream of comments such as this "OMG HIS HEAD MOVES!!!! D:". Yes it does, get the fuck over it, it's not an interesting fact, have you nothing better to say?
DCioccoloni 3 weeks ago 21
@DCioccoloni
some people find it irritating. so the fuck what?
i'm not bothered by it at all but why does it mean you need to go crazy over it
buuski 2 weeks ago
MY BRAIN! it learns....
1signmein 3 weeks ago
Err, can you backup from the camera just a tad... and stay there? XD
Xylogeist 3 weeks ago
You'd think he was throwing out some mad good rhymes by his movements.
Croven86 3 weeks ago
I'd keep watching if you weren't moving back and forth so much... I'm getting dizzy from just watching you..
TheMegaGag2 3 weeks ago
@ClearCritic Would LOVE audio recordings of your rants! Canadians are charged by bandwidth usage so watching your 10+ minute vids more than once, even at 240p, chews that usage up. Plus having you on my mp3 player would be sick.
TheZeroDivider 3 weeks ago
Stop rocking back and forth, it's really distracting. It'd probably be better if you had more of your body in the shot too.
NurrenNife 3 weeks ago
Whenever he says meme, I want to say Y U NO STOP WAVING YOUR HEAD?
WeIsDaTyrantz 3 weeks ago
Fair enough on the quadrant theory, but most of your examples were very debatable.
jdenicholls 3 weeks ago
I actually enjoy all the moving. Pretty interesting stuvs.
ZarwidThwic 3 weeks ago
@thejeppacompany I imagine he's very engaged in what he's saying, and I kind of like that. It's disarming. A lot of people have quirks when they get excited.
Arsonfly 3 weeks ago
I agree the moving around is distracting
euroroomer 3 weeks ago
@euroroomer You don't have to watch the video. It's not like there's any important visual information that he gives you. Lol.
WlNDMlLL 3 weeks ago
ClearCritic, what do you do for a living? I'm guessing something very interesting and complicated.
TheDestinyDragoon 3 weeks ago
@TheDestinyDragoon
i'm a student. haha, my life is much less interesting and complicated than this video lets on
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
@ClearCritic I'm a first year and whenever I meet one of those people who seem to know a lot about everything scientific I feel like I've wasted my time. Definitely want to be one of you someday.
TheDestinyDragoon 3 weeks ago
@ClearCritic What do you study? Anthropology? I also have to thank you for the best video on youtube for a long time (and TJ for pointing it out). But I would like to know why do you champion pragmatism so wholeheartedly, as opposed to the theoretical/idealistic, which is the basis for the mathematical part of physics and has been proven to be essential to the human pursuit of knowledge. I'm just arguing for balance, prevarication is the root of religion and as an atheist i despise it.
jabajabajaba12345678 3 weeks ago
@jabajabajaba12345678
if idealism works for you, then i'm all for it. i am probably an idealist by nature and i have to remind myself to be practical at times for my own good. i wanted to throw in the nuance of beliefs that are true and bad for you, because at the end of the day we are biological organisms who have to be self-interested for survival. e.g. one can argue that clothing is a source of needless repression in our species, but that wouldn't make a nude stroll around town a good idea
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
How did you get to become so eloquent? Seriously, if you have any tips I'd greatly appreciate it.
lasneh 3 weeks ago
@lasneh
i was raised bilingual, so that might've been helpful. keep in mind i built this video, i don't go around spewing this sort of thing to people in my day to day. the best advice i can give in terms of general improvement of thinking/ speaking is to have a doubtful mindset, care about the goals you set for yourself, and speak whenever you find an opportunity too. you probably already knew that though
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago 5
I feel face raped. Gonna just listen for a while.
Imjustaguy123 3 weeks ago
lol so many substitutes for the word 'soul'
spiritbond8 3 weeks ago
Were you on Adderall when you made these?
TheAmazingGlork 3 weeks ago
@TheAmazingGlork
no
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
Who's to say that the future is bleak?
Necrotharsis 3 weeks ago
@Necrotharsis
it may or may not be, regardless of one's actions
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
I like it you are talking up in the camera. Unique, to be honest.
lediadruid 3 weeks ago
Final post... I've just gotta say that I've finished it and dam that short rant at the end, was AWESOME!!! That is all, thank you for reading.
Xel963 3 weeks ago
Oh wow... Feedback loops... That's what I must be feeling now while I watch this vid, cause it's that good. And I'm sorry for the multiposting, just.. WOW... Your talking is just that good... And I'm so blown away I can't think up anything better to say then, your just THAT GOOD...
Xel963 3 weeks ago
I keep having to pause the vid because of mind overload... Your just that good... Your just that good... And I hope you feel better at reading this text.
Xel963 3 weeks ago
I subed for great use of the term meme... Just wow... Brain boom! You so smart it make me type even supider then normal... Well good thing I've not yet gotten to the the "chat speak" or l33t speak stuff. Lets just post this and get back to wacthing great vid.
Xel963 3 weeks ago
I feel like im being interogatted.
VideoSlob 3 weeks ago
Dude, back off! Shit myself each time you do your little head bang..
KarmaCupcakes 3 weeks ago
Oh, by the way. I think you'll appreciate the community we have on YouDoubled (it's like the re-incarnation of FreeSpeechVids, but headed by ConferenceReport). I'm not sure it's open to public registration yet, but I'll ask him to make you a username if not. Most of the people there so far are into philosophical discussion.
Yamikaiba123 3 weeks ago
I thought TJ rocked back and forth.
Anyway, fun video.
Yamikaiba123 3 weeks ago
Heroin does not do brain damage.
chaosprite 3 weeks ago 3
i just can not take the way you are moving your head... UGGH@__@
BeautyBoyTV 3 weeks ago
subbed
RottenDC1 3 weeks ago
+1 subscriber
PlutonGB 3 weeks ago
Is he high?
BrownCookieBoy 3 weeks ago
Subscribed. You should make more videos like this IMHO.
rawrimazombie 3 weeks ago
I waited for the whole video for your head to fall out of my screen D:
Freistaat1918 3 weeks ago
Have you ever accidentally hit your head on the camera?
lejonicom 3 weeks ago
makes more sense than TheAmazingBanana
pedobear123 3 weeks ago
This is awesome. Subscribed.
AgainstZombies 3 weeks ago
Stop moving around so much. D: Otherwise, interesting video.
xIceex4Life 3 weeks ago
Stop moving so much and don't get so close to the camera. It makes me not want to watch.
FewlzAreKewlz 3 weeks ago
Subbed. It's so very refreshing to hear coherent, intelligent trains of thought with insight. Simply glorious compared to the everyday nonsense sputtered by the majority of humans. You gave me a glimmer of hope for our species, if only for a little over 35 minutes.
EmperorColo 3 weeks ago
"I whip my hair back and forth."
Silence233 3 weeks ago
If you move this much because that's the way you talk/think best, that's totally fine. If that's the case, please sit further away from the camera and not have a fish-eye effect as it causes your head to constantly move out of frame and distort.
IAmRodyle 3 weeks ago 17
All you're saying is very interresting but i'm totally unable to look at the video. Might be because i'm a little drunk and seeing you go back and forth makes my head hurt. I know other people said this already and it must be annoying but i just find it's too bad because this video could be really captivating if not for this. More visual information instead of just audio could help too. If your goal is to educate your viewer you should consider we learn better by both hearing and seeing sumthing
Tsuta86 3 weeks ago
Please, FSM, please make him stop moving his head... I will do anything... even if it means taking a bath in spaghetti and not bathing for a week after.
Awesomecraft99 3 weeks ago
Why does this make me feel inferior?
CODhipster 3 weeks ago
ok I can only listen to this I'm not fucking watching it. What the fuck is wrong with you? Nice skin though.
skiie 3 weeks ago
Interesting stuff. I approve.
The head movement is really annoying. But that's what separate tabs are for people!
Divo13666 3 weeks ago
y r ppl complaining bout him moving around? im on a swing
SkizzySorel 3 weeks ago
I don't care how much you move, you have an interesting topic, you're entertaining and your voice is comfortable and calm.
Thanks to TheAmazingAtheist for the link!
TheEllm00 3 weeks ago
Seriously, are you hyper?
tumdeax 3 weeks ago
SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN TO TED TALKS!
EddieLocz562 3 weeks ago
I'm sorry, but I had to pause 2 mins in... your swaying back and forth is quite bothersome :P
Good content though
HarryTHawk 3 weeks ago
Please move the camera back and stop moving
wowbringer 3 weeks ago
You have Parkinson's?
breno2342 3 weeks ago
very philosophical
ericon52168 3 weeks ago
Stop moving!
johnface11 3 weeks ago 2
Liking.
Shalek 3 weeks ago
Great video and all but one little nitpick... just take one step away from the camera and the camerawork would be good too...
Alexc3217 3 weeks ago 15
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Eating and chewing a rock WILL prevent tooth decay, by removing the source of the decay - Your teeth.
Please move this to the upper left quadrant ASAP!
GabrielSparkletits 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Eating and chewing a rock WILL prevent tooth decay, by removing the source of the decay: Your teeth.
Please move this to the upper left quadrant ASAP!
GabrielSparkletits 3 weeks ago
Eating and chewing a rock WILL prevent tooth decay, by removing the source of the decay: Your teeth.
Please move this to the upper left quadrant ASAP!
GabrielSparkletits 3 weeks ago
This is by far the single most interesting, well put together, perfectly worded, insightful, intriguing, and incredibly useful video I have ever seen on YouTube. Absolutely fantastic job on it. I was only paying half attention at parts (It's a bit late where I live and I've been preoccupied, I will rewatch it with full attention tommorow) and it still amazes me how well you grasp this concept. I spent much time contemplating the same things and you gave me answers to some of them. Wonderful job.
1SMF0F 3 weeks ago
just commenting on the part about colour. i myself have personally done experiments on my perception of colour. i was laying on a bed one time, and when i got up i noticed that in one of my eyes the colour red was more vivid, while in the other eye the colour green was more vivd. this was because the perspective of my eyes was differentiated while i was lying on my side. expose your eyes to different colours, and test how this affects each eyes perspective of colour.
gingerkid963 4 weeks ago
@gingerkid963
the vividness you are referring to is saturation and one's eyes may have adaptation with regard to that property as eyes adapt to lightness and darkness. e.g. turn off the lights and it's super dark until a minute or two passes and then you can start to see things again. but the judgement of the color YELLOW, is a judgement of hue, and there are no gradations when it comes to that (while there may be visual adaptation on the saturation of yellow, it will be undeniably yellow)
ClearCritic 3 weeks ago
If biology advances significantly enough I would like to have your children.
chinesemonk 4 weeks ago
'the belief that people are inherently good is false'
i agree with that completely. things people do determine if they are good or bad. one of my favorite movies has a quote which is as follows:
'i've seen too much religion on the eyes of too many lunatics, what god wants is here*points to heart* and here *points to head* and what you do every day. in that is holiness or...not.'
now that's a monk being quoted but his point is pretty good.
TAXEXEMPTION 4 weeks ago
Interesting video, but one of the things I noticed, and this is neutral nit-picking, but he seemed like he was trying to peck at the camera.
NcTheory 4 weeks ago
Who's attic do you live in?
ShelbyDoesntKnow 4 weeks ago
I like this guy....thanks TJ
KyleMinns 1 month ago
this is amazing..
coonfacemcgee 1 month ago
I think the statement that people are fundamentally bad needs some explanation. I happen to believe people are fundamentally good and have plenty of reasons for it. Perhaps you can clarify?
CluckRus 1 month ago 4
@CluckRus
i never said people are fundamentally bad. i said it's false to believe people are fundamentally good. people do both good and bad things, but they are fundamentally neither
ClearCritic 1 month ago 18
@ClearCritic Oh alright, that makes more sense. I'm not sure why I assumed there couldn't be a middle ground. Though I would still argue that people don't do bad things as a result of human nature but rather because of their environment.
CluckRus 4 weeks ago
@ClearCritic Mind you, man is the measure of "good" from man's perspective. Thus, from a human perspective, people are fundamentally good.
But, yes, from an objective, neutral and universal perspective, people are neither.
Indeed, from such an objective perspective, there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" at all. In being the measure, man gives these concepts existence - albeit only inside our own minds.
Anyway, yeah, this has distracted me. Let me get back to your video.
KlaxonCow 3 weeks ago
This guy. Brilliant stuff
DoctorMeh 1 month ago
You move a lot.
MrDudeBoiMan 1 month ago
are you on a boat?
Heinztomatoejuice 1 month ago
ARE YOU JEWISH? smoke some weed and relax bruh.
Also, when you started that bit about heroin i thought you were about to joke about yourself rocking back and forth, good video by the way...seriously.
ipwnm00bs 1 month ago
Another Howard Bloom meme.
rebukeasitis 1 month ago
I just came across your channel... Boy am I going to enjoy hearing what you have to say, sir... ;)
Though the prospect of being an iliterate is quite distressing, I must admit. :( A welcome wake-up call nontheless.
MysticOfTheSands 1 month ago
I really want to like this video. Your speaking is clear and concise. Your chosen subject matter is interesting as hell, but MY GOD MAN stop bringing your face so close to me so rapidly. Seriously though good vid. Love it all except for the constant distracting movement.
alttaab 1 month ago
You move around a lot.
JesterAzazel 1 month ago
23:30 I get a headache thinking about it lol
ThePenGass 1 month ago
@ThePenGass
me too
ClearCritic 1 month ago 3
Honestly you spoke so fast I forgot what memes were and the whole rest of the video made little sense when it did lol
ThePenGass 1 month ago
pretty cool, im on facebook while listening to this
Knuckles194 1 month ago
sweet rant bro.
Ravel87 1 month ago
good vid but please stop rocking like rain man.
tripeboi 1 month ago
Interesting!
JRHartly1984 1 month ago
Where'd you get your moves from? Michael J Fox? Sorry, couldn't resist. Awesome videos. Subscribed
BlackMetalMafia666 1 month ago
Time to expand my vocabulary.
DroppinMLGBombs 1 month ago
2+2 = 4? No way I thought it was 22. Uugh my mind isn't sound.
Lycandingo 1 month ago
Please stay still, you are making me seasick.
Baxtification 1 month ago 75
@Baxtification
move your head back and forth with me, you'll get into the rhythm of it
ClearCritic 1 month ago 37