The Myth of Islamic Tolerance and Peaceful Coexistence - Egypt's Coptic Christians (1 of 7)

[bigshirtblue]

africa is not the middle east,,,egypt is in africa,,why do people keep saying it's the middle east..the commentator is ignorant

[GAMESTERA13]

I AM A PROUD COPTIC ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN. THERE'S NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

[GAMESTERA13]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH Escuse me? you protected us? You invaded our land, killed our people, and are still killing them today. You constantly ridicule us, even though we did nothing to you. We are the real egyptians. Copts were here way before you came. We were Christian then, and we are Christian now. You can do what you want. We will NEVER surrender. The cross is our light, our way, and our life. You will never break us.

[Abbadon380]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH stfu up ISLAM IS NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER RELIGION PROTECTION IS MURDERING THEM PERSECUTING CONVERTS AND SO FORTH PROTECTION ONLY A COMMON CAUSE WILL UNITE EGYPTIANS AFTER THAS OVER U PPL START KILLING THEM IS THAT HOW YOU REPAY PEOPLE WHO HELP EGYPT ISLAM WILL FALL TO  RELIGIONS LIKE BUDDHISM HINUDISM,CHRISTIANITY or even atheism (not religion)YOUR FUCKING PEDOPHLLE PROPHET HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS FUCKING WORLD SECULARISM RULESSSSSSSSSSSSSS SO FUCK U

[fgq25fsi3]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH

Sometimes the truth is very bitter

[fgq25fsi3]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH

No one in the world knows better than the Middle East Christian people the real story of Islam and their alleged messenger Mohammad. So, don’t try to imagine new stories and pictures about Islam and their Mohammad.

May God Jesus send you to hell where you belong to, you and the all muslims terrorist.

[GAMESTERA13]

@fgq25fsi3 what you say is true, we almost exclusively know about the terrors our people have suffered under the had of Islam. However, you do not properly represent our faith with such hatred. I find it hard as well, but we both must control our anger and show everyone the true meaning of Christianity. We should not wish anyone to hell. May Our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ keep you my brother.

[Janaanamal]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH - you are a shame for ur religion! You are just the type that makes other muslims sad!

[alshayal]

I'm not here to fight or talk impolitely... Just wanna reach the truth...

He asked a very important question, if you answered this question, you can solve the dilemma he is talking about:

What makes a person to change identity of his own nation and shift from focus his identity on Egypt and they become the arab?

What makes a person change identity?

[GAMESTERA13]

@alshayal their will.

[ramesnashat1]

That 's is islam no more no less

bloody backwardness and backward bloodiness

[fgq25fsi3]

@ramesnashat1

You are 100% right, and this is islam no more and no less.

Jesus be with you brother.

[Janaanamal]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH As far as I know...the copts lived in Egypt before the muslims.....in other words..they where there before you! And the christians of Etiopia was in fact helping the first muslims when they faced trouble in Saudi Arabia.....so the asshole of dogs saved some of the first muslims - if anything makes them assholes of dogs that is really it!

[ramesnashat1]

الحقيقة ببساطة هي ان المسلم لا يمكنه ان يعيش مع غير المسلم فهو مشحون بالغل ضد من لا يؤمن بدينه

و نحن تحملنا اضطهاد العرب البرابرة لالف و ربعمائة سنة

و نؤمن ان الله سيمنح لنا العزاء مهما طال الزمن

[mydreampark]

@ramesnashat1 كذبت يا ابن العبطية. المسلمون هم من جعلوكم تعيشون مثل البشر, هم من أنقذوقكم من اخوانكم النصارى البيزنطيين الذين كانوا يعاملونكم أقل من الحيوانات. الجحود والغل يملئ قلوبكم يا نصارى وخاصة الأعباط.

هو انتو لسه بيضحكوا عليكم بالليزر في الوراق ؟؟ ههههههه

أخبار معجزة حمامة البابا بتاعكم؟؟؟

الحمدلله على نعمة الاسلام

[mikyasdfghjkl]

@ramesnashat1 god bless u brother

[icarosilva16]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH Islam will conquer the world..congratulation,really funny!!Try to be tolerant,..uncivilized worshiper of a killer named Allah !!

[FeignofCordor]

Well they have become even more persecuted since the uprising and still my media is silent on this issue. Thank you for this video Phenix

[egyptnile19]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH YAAAAY ISLAM WILL CONQUER BY FORCE YAAAAY YAAAY FORCE IS THE KEY .. YAAAAY DOGGGG

[lornelz]

@THEHanno88 your not funny. that is sick!!

[eks812]

I'm proud to call myself arab even though i'm Tunisian from berber origins ,

I'm the brother of the egyptian arab , the brother of the sudani dark skinned arab and the brother of the christian arminian Lebanese arab. the filistinian , is my arab brother the sumarian iraqi is my arab brother the somali is my brother just like the Omani the yemeni and the Qatari

i have hebrew neighbors that call themselves arabs

Arab is not a race , there are none

you are the racist ones spreading hate ..

[TADahar]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH And you wonder why people don't like you...

[SatchmoSings]

In Egypt the Muslim-Arab majority treats the Coptic minority with all due respect and love; indeed, things will only get better for the Coptic now that Mubarak is gone as it will for ALL Egyptians.

All this hate and disinformation is sown by Israel's Mossad.

[Rayann81]

@SatchmoSings "All this hate and disinformation is sown by Israel's Mossad." HaHaHaHaHaHahahaha! Oh That's rich. When you can't stand the truth always blame the Jews!

If kidnapping Christian girls and forcing them to convert, bombing churches and denying Christians the right to repair their churches is love and respect, I'd hate to see what you consider persecution.

[SatchmoSings]

@Rayann81 Actually, I agree with you; my previous remark was meant as one very sarcastic prank; please excuse me.

[Rayann81]

@SatchmoSings So sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't recognize your sarcasm, but I should have.

[SatchmoSings]

@Rayann81 Oh, that's quite alright; all you had to go by was some written text; you simply didn't have the other "cues" handy that would have tipped you off.

[georgehanna1984]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH

LOL islam is thge devil..... coptic people where their first you fucken wanker...we built the pyramids...we build ancient egypt and you cant take that away from us....also when Islam came to the county they destroyed...

Islam preys on coptics because islam are weak and pathetic people you fucken wanker

yeah cant wait to pray to mohammed who married a 9 year old....fucken loser

[hoierboier]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH SHIT ON ISLAM SHIT ON MOHAMMED THE SLUT! FUCK U ALL

[lornelz]

@hoierboier . I am not a Muslim. But we should respect all faiths. The Quoran is hard to accept, but most Muslims are honest and kind, great people. I understand hating the haters but, not an entire religion or the faithful.

[hoierboier]

Fucking Arabians, Fucking Islam, Long live christian kopts!

[minafam1]

@hoierboier It's horrible for christians to present themselves in such a way that is offensive to Christ by the language we are using...I understand your anger but this is no way to respond let alone the way Christ himself asked us to respond. God Bless.

[TheJoeB1Kanobe]

Join me in Pray that these people are protected.. Please Jesus protect these people as they truly need your help! Help us all recognize your Love which softens the hardest Heart..

[taten21]

fuck muslim the religion of fish

[o0lBobl0o]

2010.11.17 (Khuzdar, Pakistan) - Eighteen people are wounded when clerics at a mosque begin shooting at each other to decide who should lead prayer.

[Allahpeanutbuttersan]

Islam blows, but don't worry Egypt is on the list to find Al-Qaeda, that group is in for an ass kicking too just like the Talibans.

[balqani]

this guy is a big liar.all the egyptians are copts but there muslim copts and christian ones. i am a berber ethnically but muslim. is this guy helping the christians in egypt or calling for a civil war? can he speak coptic? can he he give the name of an orthodox copt who ruled egypt for 5 min? did he forgot that the copts helped the muslims in the siege of babel?

amazing how this guy is lying.islam is everywhere and will be everywhere.so tell chnouda the pope to prepare the pampers

[georgehanna1984]

@balqani

no his not a liar you idiot...its written even in history books..

coptic are christain egyptains....therefore coptic muslims dont exist

muslims invaded Egyptian....

god muslims are so not educated

[eks812]

@georgehanna1984 i'm berber and arab , The word arab is not about ethnic origins more than cultural grounds

Ground built by both "true blood" arabs and all other arabs without discrimination

arabs were never racists , how can you accept any ethnic group to be of your own then get treated as a racist

now this guy is racist...

arabs didn't even force the language on us, we had independent berber muslim kingdoms , Quran was translated ,we learned arabic just as a result of a cultural symbiosis

[momospy55]

حد يترجمه ويرفعه تاني يا اخوة لو تكرمتم

[premorall]

@MrISLAMistheTRUTH You didn't protect shit you uneducated imbecile. Islamic hordes from Saudi Arabia attacked Christian Egypt & forced people to convert under death and torture. You almost destroyed a whole culture with your backwards religion, and Egypt became a 3rd world country after islam's arrival. Egypt is in theory a Christian country that was besieged by islamic hordes. Learn some history you uneducated fuck. And fuck your hategod allah and your paedophile muhammad you terrorist bastard!

[premorall]

The funniest thing about this is that Egypt was actually a Christian country for hundreds of years (Roman Egypt) before islam came there. Christianity had been in Egypt for over 600 hundred years before islam even existed, and was Egypts most widespread religion. When islam then did come to egypt through force by barbaric hordes, the once proud nation of Egypt lost much of its wealth and power and became little more than a 3rd world country afterwards.

[najiballah1]

Many Muslims think that the ideal solution for the Coptic problem is to leave Egypt and go to a Christian country. To those I want to say the old saying says the house belongs to our father and the strangers come to kick us out of it. Copts are the original people of Egypt, they are the descendent of the pharaohs the greatest people in the world. You destroy our civilisation by your backwardness and savagery.

[najiballah1]

It was the mistake of our grandparents who welcomed you thinking that you would be better than the Roman. It was the mistake that every single Copt now pays the price of it, but I assure you that this situation will not continue. One day the Coptic state will be declared with the backing of all the civilised nations of the world.

[rjluvjsmoov]

look at the videos this fuck made!! he's as far right as it gets jesus! i bet none of you have ever even hung out with a muslim. i bet none of you have read the quran i have muslims friends and they are the coolest people you will ever meet

[totheword3000]

@rjluvjsmoov hes talking about the radical Muslim nutcases and how thier sweeping this sad little world by storm not all Muslims

[ecclesiaprimus]

When one reads oppinions, like I see here, is much better not even offer an answer.

Let's just be the Christians, the way that we are, with our liturgy, our utter respect for the Body. Only a special grace from haven will make some people to experience the necessary methanoia, & the joy of actively participating in Evangelization. And, thus understand the suffering of the Church oppressed by the "tolerant" Muslins...

[kastitabh]

"The Lord your God will deliver those nations and lay on them a great panic until they are exterminated. He shall deliver their kings into thine hands, thou shalt remove their name from under heaven, none stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them. "This call to genocide lurks there in the Qur'an? No, it comes from the Old Testament (Deuteronomy 7, 23 and 24).

[kastitabh]

This person forgets that the Copts continued to exist in a Muslim country for 15 Centuries, if these Muslims are so intolerant as it claims he does not exist today, these people are dangerous to the Copts themselves by creating a climate unhealthy in a society already quite frustrated by poverty and poor governance.

[eyesonly96]

whats wrong with being an Arab or a muslim they are the best people i know

[realtyofislam]

@eyesonly96, Islam is not A Religion of Peace. They cry Peace only by Lips. But they are most Fearful people in the World. They have Fear of Hell in their heart. To Escape from Hell, they can do any things i.e. can die or can kill in name of Allah. They think Allah can protect them from Hell. But Allah is nothing more than A Arab Pagan moon God. Behind this name Allah, A spirit is working. Bible calls this Evil spirit is The spirit of Fear which is from Satan. Every page of Quran have HELL FIRE.

[eyesonly96]

I am a muslim i have been to alot of places in the world i will tell you this there are good and bad people everywhere and even in religion if you want to talk about christianty or jewdesim or islam accept that all three of these great religions have bad people in them

[zachk1983]

Islam is evil.

[eyesonly96]

why do u think islam is bad cuz the news and your goverment tells you go and ask before you jugde people on the other hand why judg at all do you have the right ?

think about that.

[BigBoss1827]

exactly why wont these people understand

[MrChickyBee]

Egypt is just a sample of what could happen to Europe unless we put 'the brakes on'! There is no freedom of religion in Egypt and more has to be done about this.

[totheword3000]

@MrChickyBee Its only gonna get worse look to the future you will see

[ModernPharaoh77]

Id like to tell you that ALL EGYPTIANS ARE COPTS! Muslim or Christian, Egypt means KIPT...Muslims & Christians in Egypt are ONE PEOPLE & very rarley do problems happens, unfortunatley in UPPER EGYPT where there is very little Education & RESOURCES from the Goverment we are seeing extremism rise..but overall CHRISTAINS & MUSLIMS in EGYPT ARE ONE PEOPLE!

[ReligionKills1]

The worst thing is, the Saudis are funding the building of thousands of mosques across Europe and the states, but they ban any places of worship in Saudi Arabia except mosques, no churches allowed, and then they lecture us about religious tolerance.

[tifa1977]

Agree, its a shame but a lot of nonsesne is happening there and this does not mean that they are applying religion in the right way - just remmeber few decades back when the church in europe was also doing lots of nonsense (e.g. killing scientists and philosiphers) this also means that they applied religion in the wrong way..

[Odinfriends]

@tifa1977 ROFL a few decades back the church in europ were doing a lot of nonsense eg killing scientists and plisosophers. ROFL( where is your evidence? and No don't quote some arabic books that state"facts")erhm.. in what century are you living in?

[najiballah1]

@ReligionKills1 The short answer is your government is to blame because they allow that to happen in their land.

[drbungooo]

Nonsense!!! how a priest , who is considered to be a little bit cultured, doesn't understand that changing one's religion doesn't change his nationality, i.e; a copt stays a copt even if he reverted to islam, also, if we agreed with him that Egypt was a christian country long ago, this doesn't mean that it must stay as it is, and that any other civilization shouldn't ever exist, cuz this implies that we must revert Egypt to judaism, which was before christianity by centuries, or even athiesim!

[Eopyk]

He talks about the grand language and cultural shift that has happend in Egypt. And how Arabisation happend to this day.

[tifa1977]

What helped the spread of Islam that much, which still fascinates researchers in the West was the fact that majority of Christians in Egypt has been largely followed the doctrine of Arianism, in relation to the Bishop Arius of Alexandria, rejecting the deification of Christ. Which is consistent with the idea of one God is always prevailing in ancient Egyptian religion, whether Amun-Ra or furnace

so it was never the pressures that made Christian Egyptians convert but a free choice of faith

[Eopyk]

Bullshit Tifa1977 Choptic Language ithe daughter language of the Classical Egyptian language in fact Choptic is the last stage of the common Egyptian language and trough cultural opression they adapted Arabic and even an Arabic identity. So don't say bullshit here. Teh spread of Arabic happend in the expense of other languages many of them get extinct or almost extinct and some like the Persian language hade because the ability to survive to this day.

[tifa1977]

I was not trying to bullshit here, i was listing facts that are available if anyone reading my comments want to check if it is right or wrong and it is not doucmented by muslims or even egyptians, references below in case you are seeking truth, my main point is that we are all egyptians does not matter muslims or copts, believe it or not i have full respect to my christian friends and i hate limitations of their rights in egypt which is unfortuantely a fact as well, hope will change one day

[Eopyk]

I was mainly talking the fact that Choptic was the Egyptian language the late Egyptian language and it was once the languge spoken by Egyptians in daily life. In fact in modern Egyptian arabic it is elements left from the Choptic langauge and that tends to happen in language shifts

[tifa1977]

Egypt was not Coptic in any era, and the Coptic language were not the state language at any time, Church language later, when Christianity became the official religion and the only in Romanian Empire in 391 AD. Upon receipt of the country by Amr Ibn Al Aas, the bishop escaped to the desert  worried about his safety, Amr ibn al-Aas sent him letter guaranteeing his safety and returned to its place in the church ..

[guevararushdy]

reading such interesting comments makes one wonder why are the people that represent Islam unable to structure a valuable argument. I know a lot of well educated Muslims myself and they would be offended reading those comments as well. However, this video does raise some concerns to many muslium egyptians. He did state a lot of wrong facts there i must admit. Do not piss them off and there shall be no violence. If you want to Hit, then Run! Don't Hit, Stand, Get Attacked, Cry, and hit again!

[tifa1977]

the word copt is from the word coptos which is a name of the city close to luxor in the south where christians were isolated escaping bad treatment by the romans - the city was chosen to be an easy escape in case these issues are elevated and that was the worst era for egyptian christians who kept this name since it reminds them of staying together bravely, this info is recorded by Herodotus and part of it is available on wikipedia if you are seeking truth and not enforcing hate bet egyptians

[tifa1977]

Just a small correction the word Egypt is originaly from the word kemt (black land) then 'gemt' then 'gebt' then egyptous to egypt....think about that please before listing wrong facts...the arabic word was always Misr and was never changed to egypt by arabs it was changed by the end of the greek era

secondly, before christians there was all know religions in egypt does not mean that people who kept that faith are the owners of the land, its for egyptians at the end regardless of religion

[Extraordinaire]

You Mohammedan usurpers stole Egypt from the Copts in 639 AD under 'Amr ibn-al-'As, and thenceforth they have suffered under the system of religious apartheid called al-dhimma!

End the Arab-Islamic Occupation of Coptic Christian Egypt!

[explosive111]

Clever Bishop

[1389srbin]

God Bless you my orthodox brothers and sisters.

[gerardk51]

Egypt was Christian before it was invaded by muslims. What do you mean by muslim land? And muslim protection? Protection from what? I think you mean living under muslim persecution for centuries.

As for the rest of comment filled with hared and filthy language, it is clear you know nothing of God. You have a sort of religion. But you do not know God. That is obvious.

[cpspsble]

thank you for those interesting videos !!!

[sliku12]

Good post

God Bless

[1001Phoenix]

Anyone who monitors the media and different aspects of culture and education in Egypt will find an endless number of edicts (Fatwas) provoking the public against the Copts. Those edicts range from considering them infidels who should be fought and subjected to all kinds of injustices they are persevering to the incitation of kidnapping their daughters.

[1001Phoenix]

Let's also read what the students in Assiut University, Suhag branch, had to study in their book "Basics of Education":

1. Christianity hallowed Jesus exactly as the Marxists did.

2. Christianity, just as Judaism is an Egyptian Judaic concoction.

3. Christianity is based on Judaism and the latter is not a religion.

4. Christianity was inoculated with paganism.

5. Christianity has turned into a pagan religion

[1001Phoenix]

6. Human fiddling around with Christianity changed it into a mixture of both Judaism and paganism.

7. The Apostle Paul pretended to be a Christian to distort Christian

Source: Magdy Khalil is an Egyptian writer and analyst via JihadwatchDOTorg

[totheword3000]

@1001Phoenix Really they made up pathetic lies like that anyone with a one once of gray matter can see its all a lie to suppress to the truth keep up the good work man

[1001Phoenix]

In Egypt the government does not officially recognize conversions from Islam to Christianity; also certain interfaith marriages are not allowed either, this prevents marriages between converts to Christianity and those born in Christian communities, and also results in the children of Christian converts being classified as Muslims and given a Muslim education.

[1001Phoenix]

The government also requires permits for repairing churches or building new ones, which are often withheld. Foreign missionaries are allowed in the country only if they restrict their activities to social improvements and refrain from proselytizing.

[1001Phoenix]

The Coptic Pope Shenouda III was internally exiled in 1981 by President Anwar Sadat, who then chose five Coptic bishops and asked them to choose a new pope. They refused, and in 1985 President Hosni Mubarak restored Pope Shenouda III, who had been accused of fomenting interconfessional strife. Particularly in Upper Egypt, the rise in extremist Islamist groups such as the Gama'at Islamiya during the 1980s was accompanied by attacks on Copts and on Coptic churches;

[1001Phoenix]

these have since declined with the decline of those organizations, but still continue. The police have been accused of siding with the attackers in some of these cases. And in Southern Egypt, there were problems in which involves terrorists going into monastaries, harrassing, capturing, and torturing monks (such as the 2008 attacks on the monks of the Monastery of Saint Fana).

Source: Wikipedia