characters from the second dossier list cant be used while getting ones from the first technically so why did bioware make unique dialogue for them?? they must have thought about EVERY possible outcome when making this game
@Fenririon Legion (and I believe Tali) were originally meant to be obtainable earlier in the game. The files from before this change are still in the game.
@DragonGodAvatar Actually, it was possible to recruit them in the order you want. But somehow (I think it has something to do with the fact that the Xbox version came out on 2 disks) they changed it.
@NumberOneNik Yes, true, I have the Xbox version and it has two disks, but there are missions you have to do to unlock other missions. You need to recruit the first few team members, like Garrus and Jack, before you can go to Horizon, and you have to complete Horizon and other missions before you can go onto the derelict Reaper.
lol i like how it acknowledges that you are fucking with the save file with a message but doesnt try to stop you, makes me wonder if bioware knew this would happen and put in diologue just to fuck with us
@3oTooLe Unused dialogue I think they first planned on letting you recruit your team in any order you wanted. They probably had dialogue leftover, and didn't bother taking it out since the only way to do this is by using a save game editor.
Legion's voice when saying ".. and transported aboard as cargo" sounds so freaking hilarious for some reason, I can't pinpoint exactly why but there's some tone there that makes me giggle every single time.
how did u get such a high renegade rating so early in the game? when i tried going renegade with all the possible options i came across, i only ended up filling like 4/5 of the renegade rating at the end of the game.
@RodrMattA At least Saren threw a lamp at counsellor Troi. I wonder why Saren didn't destroy the beacon immediatley after using it...or steal it like he did with the second beacon.
Just wanted to thank you for this video, it's impressive how they've added dialogue to the game which shouldn't even be possible playing the game the normal way.
LEGION is Awsome and the Geth are awsome. No matter how you slice it the Geth are awsome. If only I had Mass Effect 1 then I could effect the story better.
"This subject will invent fiction it believes the interrogator desires. Data acquired will be invalid"
Sure, until you inject the truth serums after you beaten them to a pulp, not only is it a Cathartic release but it is also a good way to force the subject to a state of fear
basically pick an exisiting mass effect 2 save file, select all decisions and things you want wherever you pick what choices you did in the first mass effect.
when happy, go to the raw tab and flag the end game status as that you have completed the game
you can choose to import that save game when doing a new game+ with a ME2 profile, all the mass effect 1 decisions you picked in the save game editor will be in effect
@jj0ck33 Really? I dunno if there's something wrong with mine, but when I use the save editor, almost none of the choices seem to work and on top of that, when I use it to unlock characters early, I can't get their ship upgrades from them...
I think Bioware just has all ten (or 12 for online players) voice actors for the characters all say something at certain points in the story, so that anyone can respond to certain cutscenes. They probably did it this way, not thinking (or caring) about availability of certain characters in certain parts of the game.
I think that would sound a little sexist considering how far it is in the future. Heck, most of the military captains and authority figures in the game happen to be women/Asari (Jedore, Captain Wasea, Aria, Detective Anaya, etc). So it's sort of assumed by most everyone Jack could be either male or female, and not just a man, despite Jack's vicious reputation. The only sexist comments that are made seem to be towards Commander Shepard, when people mistake her for a stripper or escort.
@jj0ck33 thanks mate, i figured it out, i used an old version of the savegame editor. do you know if legion also has other hidden dialogue? besides garrus recriotment mission and freedom's hope?
Legion was originally intended to be recruitable much, much earlier in the game. They decided to put him at the Reaper IFF mission, though, but left all the dialogue for him, since it might have messed with the coding if removed.
Legion was probably my favorite character, and I was pretty livid that he was only available for two missions before people started dying, so, following some advice, I put off doing his loyalty mission so I could do some other loyalty missions before the countdown to the suicide mission started, as per one site's recommendation, but when I docked at the Migrant Fleet, the ship got attacked anyways and, after doing Tali & Legion's loyalty missions, when I rescued the crew, half of them were dead.
What's the point of having a character only available for... well two mission if you want to get to the Collector base before all your shipmates get killed?
Yeah, it's sad that Legion, Tali, Samara and Thane has so many dialogs, yet they can't be heard without hacking the game.
I think it had something to do with the disc swapping. Still pretty lame excuse to put Legion at the end of the game. I can take having to swap discs every hour if it meant I could have Legion recruit able from the beginning. Same goes for everyone else.
Such a shame legion is only usable 2 missions in the vanilla game. My guess is that it wasn't supposed to be like that because he has dialogue that shouldn't be there. Probably a late decision, for the worse in my opinion.
I don't know it sort of makes sense, from a narrative standpoint. Given the dossier system they used and no one knowing that all the Geth weren't in the Reaper corner. You couldn't go looking for one to recruit and none of the other missions outside of maybe Haestrom which you don't have to do, would fit just running into him.
That would be the point of going Renegade, I guess. It's "bad-ass". I still prefer Paragon.
It least it's just acting like a callous hardass, this time. The things you had to do and say for Dark Side/Closed Fist points in past Bioware games have been unbelievably stupid.
The fuck @ that Shepard?
FlamingYoda339 1 week ago
characters from the second dossier list cant be used while getting ones from the first technically so why did bioware make unique dialogue for them?? they must have thought about EVERY possible outcome when making this game
Fenririon 1 week ago
@Fenririon Legion (and I believe Tali) were originally meant to be obtainable earlier in the game. The files from before this change are still in the game.
TheOzzfjard 3 days ago
A punch to the face is also likely.
Ah, how I love Legion XD
xtrixsterx 2 weeks ago
How do you edit the save games to get Legion and Tali?
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gof22 1 month ago
what a horrible looking Shepard
ziggyvoltage 1 month ago
*Knocks Jack out with a punch*
Legion: "Neurol satisfactory levels rising."
zuser 1 month ago
"Ai pitty the foo who designed this shepard!"
warpunk1 3 months ago 4
Would you trust a face like that? Nope...
OASSpartan 3 months ago
Actually your Shep looks pretty awesome man, the whole evil miltary look imo. Shame that you can't change the voice.
Lycandingo 4 months ago 6
So I finnaly got Jack to sleep with me. Stupid me I had her alternate costume equipped -.-
TheWejdin 5 months ago
any time I hear Legion talk I imagine his voice-actor is Albert Wesker. I wish you could (without hacking) get Legion earlier.
IamRizer 6 months ago
legion is hilarious for a machine with no feelings
Sarokuthix 6 months ago
Why is Mr. T Commander Shepherd?
troslogoth 7 months ago 5
@troslogoth because he's Mr.T
SlipSloop 6 months ago
HaHa your character looks like the black guy you meet in Resident Evil 2 that turns into a zombie
SoapyCam 7 months ago
OH noes... someone did it.... IT IS A MEXICAN SHEPARD *runs away*
yubarta1 7 months ago
Hehehe mexican shepard "sorry mr john no here"
bunkerbeerbelly 7 months ago
Why did Bioware create the dialogue if it shouldn't be possible to have them in the party at the time?
DragonGodAvatar 7 months ago
@DragonGodAvatar Actually, it was possible to recruit them in the order you want. But somehow (I think it has something to do with the fact that the Xbox version came out on 2 disks) they changed it.
NumberOneNik 7 months ago
@NumberOneNik Yes, true, I have the Xbox version and it has two disks, but there are missions you have to do to unlock other missions. You need to recruit the first few team members, like Garrus and Jack, before you can go to Horizon, and you have to complete Horizon and other missions before you can go onto the derelict Reaper.
DragonGodAvatar 7 months ago
@DragonGodAvatar i guess that they A)wanted to give the haxers so fun time or B)they made it that way so it would be easy to make last min changes
yubarta1 7 months ago
Funny how you didnt set up the dlc properly.
Deathseeker214 8 months ago
@Deathseeker214 he did set it up properly.. BEFORE it came out..
M3aaaqHD 8 months ago
Your Shepard reminds me of some of the bad guys in Red Dead Redemption.
343spork 8 months ago
1:16 quit trollin legion!
Lifeless9619 8 months ago
I just realized that Leagon is ME2s HK47 i came
DarthSpartanus 8 months ago
whoooooa thats so trippy! why do the have lines written out already??
TheRyukenhadoken 9 months ago
''There is a high statistical probability of death by gunshot. A punch to the face is also likely.'' Legion, you are priceless
Frozenkoldfury 9 months ago 75
wow u actually made a good looking black character! thats hella hard to do.
337Gnarkill 9 months ago 4
"Recommend subject Jack be disabled and transported aboard as cargo" ....Legion is awsome!!!!
agyhalott86 9 months ago 7
Your Shepard looks pretty kickcass
Lordofcookiejars 9 months ago
This isn't Danny Trejo from Machete! This is Commander Shepard from Mass Effect 2.......WAIT, CAN IT BE?? They are the same person!
ClaytonWK 9 months ago
what is DLC_HEN_MT ?
vikocho123 10 months ago
WTF its Danny Trejo.
EchoJerichoX 10 months ago
Commander shephard is... the angry mexican...
Petter1900 10 months ago 4
@chosenone27990 no idea.
madness400 10 months ago
@chosenone27990 console on the pc
madness400 10 months ago
What happens if you bluff
whman17411 10 months ago
@DroolingCola He didnt, he went into the game files so he could have him this early on.
524mills 10 months ago
how do u recruit legion so early
DroolingCola 11 months ago
You guys know Legion is the real hero of the serios, right? Shepard's just the red herring.
fosterroberts 11 months ago
Why does shepard have glowing red eyes?!?!
stitchfantommy 11 months ago
Legion is just epic win.
Truveld9999 11 months ago
lol i like how it acknowledges that you are fucking with the save file with a message but doesnt try to stop you, makes me wonder if bioware knew this would happen and put in diologue just to fuck with us
gamingcultist 11 months ago
I mean shepard
Malkion009 11 months ago
Machete Shepherd
Malkion009 11 months ago
2:08 lol i always thought jack killed that blue sun by just looking at him.
808Hybrid 11 months ago
hahaha! a punch to the face is also likely
Teeheehee093 1 year ago
Punch Jack in the face, Huge risk, but the priiiize
protoman140 1 year ago 115
@protoman140 what priiiize?
Sherpard1 8 months ago
@Sherpard1 Don't you know about the priiiize? It's...well...it's the priiiize. *salutes*
Metamorp8 8 months ago
@protoman140 Could someone please explain what is the "but the priiice" thing?
o0Condrag0o 7 months ago
@o0Condrag0o do a serach on Jacobs romance with fem shep
protoman140 7 months ago
@protoman140 Now I understand it :) thx!
o0Condrag0o 7 months ago
@o0Condrag0o do a youtube search of "Mass effect 2 jacob romance"
ginnoveffect 5 months ago
@protoman140 Of gloating for 3 seconds before she completely rearranges your skeletal structure?
knives4cash 2 months ago
your guy looks kinda badass in a mexican sorta way
huffpuuf 1 year ago
if your not supposed to have legion this early how does he have dialogue?
3oTooLe 1 year ago
@3oTooLe Unused dialogue I think they first planned on letting you recruit your team in any order you wanted. They probably had dialogue leftover, and didn't bother taking it out since the only way to do this is by using a save game editor.
Warrcry19 1 year ago
Thats one Bad Ass looking Shepard
TheVideosWePost 1 year ago
Im Commander Shepard and punching girls is my favorite past time on the citadel.
protoman140 1 year ago
I like how the game alerts you that you've used a save editor:
"You're using Kasumi without the proper DLC, this is an error and shouldn't be possible!"
182crazyK 1 year ago
Tyrone is a badass
MrRoflcatz 1 year ago
Legion, you only get punched in the face if you're a news reporter...
GhostLink92 1 year ago
1:20
Holy shit Shepard looks fucking badass
Debilonator 1 year ago
"...a punch to the face is also likely" = Win.
xXelmarcoCFCXx 1 year ago
Legion: Jack is smaller than reputation suggests.
or
Grunt: Jack is small...
Microja 1 year ago
Tyrone XD grate name
ninjamunkey209 1 year ago
wait why is the diaologue considered hidden?
Fresh834 1 year ago
@Fresh834 Because you cant have Legion this early on normally.
egosumdidact 1 year ago
Legion: "Jack is smaller than her reputation suggests."
XD!!!
dapapeyu1 1 year ago
A punch to the face, a move that anderson himself enjoyed... and a certain reporters face didn't enjoy.
FaslifiedHero 1 year ago
samuel l jackson?
pmeister94 1 year ago
that is 1 tough looking shepard! he looks like he eats nails for breakfast and krogan for dinner!
lapere 1 year ago
he was already dead, he just didnt know it, now, what the hell do you want
Whippenberg 1 year ago
You are using Kasumi without DLC_HEN_MT installed.
This is an error and should not be possible via normal gameplay!
I think the game should relax a bit, you only changed some file values, you're not trying to divide by zero.
randomperson11111123 1 year ago
1:20 Evil shot of evilness!!!
yuriski1 1 year ago
This Shepard looks like he'd fit in a Bollywood movie.
Mysterious0Bob 1 year ago
Legion's voice when saying ".. and transported aboard as cargo" sounds so freaking hilarious for some reason, I can't pinpoint exactly why but there's some tone there that makes me giggle every single time.
Andrekky 1 year ago
"A punch to the face is also likely."
Oh Legion XD
Rave7557 1 year ago
That is one seriously badass-looking Shepard.
GorbadIronclaw 1 year ago
ASSUMING CONTROL ... uh oh shep... ya dun goofd. Harbinger says concequences will never be the same
prettehkitteh9 1 year ago
is legion dlc ?
thewarri 1 year ago
@thewarri Fortunately not, you can pick him up during the main quest. All your squadmates are memorable, but Legion even more so.
rocketman544 1 year ago
@rocketman544
unfortunately, it comes to late. legion has some great dialogue in the game, shame you don't hear most of it.
CMNeirfan147 1 year ago
how did u get such a high renegade rating so early in the game? when i tried going renegade with all the possible options i came across, i only ended up filling like 4/5 of the renegade rating at the end of the game.
Razzrazz90 1 year ago
@Razzrazz90 If you transfer your ME1 character over (and it was Renegade) then you get a higher boost in it.
JessiV2 1 year ago
a punch to the face is also likely
slakethedemon 1 year ago
2:29 I'm Commander Shepard and what the hell, I don't say anything after this?
mbarunningfreak7 1 year ago
ugly shepard XD
SSaschaSS 1 year ago
legion is hilarious
im a gona use him all the time the next playthroug
...recomend shiping here as cargo...
sIatnican 1 year ago
Shepard is apparently is a terminator....Glowing red eyes, working with machines....
TheRealToony 1 year ago
Your character doesn't look so..good.
Red eyes and all xD
Someone's been a big renegade
cr4yv3n 1 year ago
how did you get Legion there? Dont u need to have nearly every1 before u meet him?
XxToiletPaperHeroxX 1 year ago
I don't know if it's intentional, but Jack's little freakout at 2:00 is pathetic.
"Cerberus. Arg. Grr."
Metamorp8 1 year ago 45
@Metamorp8 im pretty sure they wanted her to seems frustrated and enraged......but it didn't rele come off that well....
DoubleGlock45 1 year ago
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Metamorp8 1 year ago
@DoubleGlock45 It's almost funny. It's less like a psychopathic outburst and more like a kid having a mild tantrum.
Metamorp8 1 year ago
@Metamorp8 i know she like went from "i should of known" moment to "dammit" moment :p
DPROSpeed 8 months ago
@DPROSpeed A reply to my message? Arg. Roar. Grr.
Metamorp8 8 months ago
@Metamorp8 xD
DPROSpeed 8 months ago
@Metamorp8 Almost reminds me of Saren's little freakout after Eden Prime :P
RodrMattA 7 months ago
@RodrMattA At least Saren threw a lamp at counsellor Troi. I wonder why Saren didn't destroy the beacon immediatley after using it...or steal it like he did with the second beacon.
Metamorp8 7 months ago
@Metamorp8 Well yeah, she probably worked out a day's worth of Jack anger by slaughtering all those people.
GSSAGE7 7 months ago
@Metamorp8 .... jack is a werewolf :O
yubarta1 7 months ago
Dude, you're Shepard looks badass as a renegade!
Sulvuss 1 year ago
Music at 1:45 resembles Halo or is it just me?
FireyFiringFire 1 year ago
Where is there a save game editor?
MaverickHunter40245 1 year ago
Shepard's voice and head don't match, i think
SolBladeLeo 1 year ago 3
dammit Buchholz101 you beat me to it grrrr D:<
ANNIHILATIONist 1 year ago
2:31
The beginning of epicness.
omegaglory77 1 year ago
"... a punch to the face is also likely."
Buchholz101 1 year ago 2
is that motherfucking tyrone shepard?
Ghosthand 1 year ago 3
I dunno but your male Shep is making that handlebar mustache awesome!
crazyworld014 1 year ago
I wish Jack was that bad ass in play... She falls like a drunk prom queen's head in an actual firefight...
RalOhmSurEth 1 year ago
"a punch to the face is also likely" lol
telletube54 1 year ago
Your Shepard looks evil O_O
CENTRINOaki 1 year ago
Legion is the greatest character in all of Mass Effect hands down.
HisShadow 1 year ago 3
paragon shepherd owns renegade shepherd. still, great vid.
sheatheman 1 year ago
Just wanted to thank you for this video, it's impressive how they've added dialogue to the game which shouldn't even be possible playing the game the normal way.
mrdaym 1 year ago
Cutscene power to the max
Mallemaster 1 year ago
enjoy sequence-abilities while you can, it won't be long...
iloveaerrow7 1 year ago
Can this be done on the xbox 360 version ?
edthecheesecake 1 year ago
"there is a high statistical probability of death by gunshot. A punch to the face is also likely"
LOL
xXSoulessniperXx 1 year ago
I admit female renegade shepard looks pretty badass
Puffin10101 1 year ago
I love Legions insight.
Kulmataklaus 1 year ago
LEGION is Awsome and the Geth are awsome. No matter how you slice it the Geth are awsome. If only I had Mass Effect 1 then I could effect the story better.
KingBowser22 1 year ago
Dang your Shepard looks mean, like a bulldog or something. Don't screw with him, lol. Awesome video btw, Legion FTW. xD
AnotherSchmoe 1 year ago
lol you got a black mr.T looking sheperd talking like a white guy
JSolls 1 year ago
"This subject will invent fiction it believes the interrogator desires. Data acquired will be invalid"
Sure, until you inject the truth serums after you beaten them to a pulp, not only is it a Cathartic release but it is also a good way to force the subject to a state of fear
gyrobotZ 1 year ago
Legion is a legend without peer... well him and Grunt... Hell you could just have a game with those 2 like a spin off
WiggsMaGee 1 year ago
Legion is a legend without peer.. Him and Grunt
WiggsMaGee 1 year ago
Pretty badass Sheppard right there!
Ragnarok6664 1 year ago
another mexican terminator
RizonReason 1 year ago
can't you use a savegame editor to create a mass effect 1 save and import it?
dotjeanpaul 1 year ago
@dotjeanpaul
yes
basically pick an exisiting mass effect 2 save file, select all decisions and things you want wherever you pick what choices you did in the first mass effect.
when happy, go to the raw tab and flag the end game status as that you have completed the game
you can choose to import that save game when doing a new game+ with a ME2 profile, all the mass effect 1 decisions you picked in the save game editor will be in effect
jj0ck33 1 year ago
@jj0ck33 Really? I dunno if there's something wrong with mine, but when I use the save editor, almost none of the choices seem to work and on top of that, when I use it to unlock characters early, I can't get their ship upgrades from them...
Versudan 9 months ago
"a punch to the face is also likely"
and for that, bioware wins
wallofmindlessness48 1 year ago 92
"A punch to the face is also likely"
NekroDynamics 1 year ago
Clever bastards...
MichaelKlump 1 year ago
I think Bioware just has all ten (or 12 for online players) voice actors for the characters all say something at certain points in the story, so that anyone can respond to certain cutscenes. They probably did it this way, not thinking (or caring) about availability of certain characters in certain parts of the game.
MichaelKlump 1 year ago
I thought Legion would have said something like, "This one assumed Jack would be a female..." lol
kvkenny217 1 year ago
I think that would sound a little sexist considering how far it is in the future. Heck, most of the military captains and authority figures in the game happen to be women/Asari (Jedore, Captain Wasea, Aria, Detective Anaya, etc). So it's sort of assumed by most everyone Jack could be either male or female, and not just a man, despite Jack's vicious reputation. The only sexist comments that are made seem to be towards Commander Shepard, when people mistake her for a stripper or escort.
MichaelKlump 1 year ago
Legion is the best. He's like the new Wrex!
Sursion7 1 year ago 2
@Sursion7 I thought Grunt was the new Wrex.
Martintheauthor 1 year ago
man your shepard looks like a nigga terminator.
IsteriaCollettiva 1 year ago 3
hahahaha Legion was hilarous at the end
xXOwnigerXx 1 year ago
can u only do this on pc? because i only have xbox 360!
Kitty745Kat 1 year ago
heheh tyrone shepard
dontbannme 1 year ago
too bad jack isn't nearly as awesome/powerful when you have her in your squad as when she pulled that
Finiras 1 year ago 4
Legion: There is a high statistical probability of death by gunshot. A punch to the face is also likely.
hee hee
TalkinXbox 1 year ago 4
Tyrone Shepard? Fuck yes.
skater910 1 year ago 3
how do you make characters selectable using the savegame editor?
Finiras 1 year ago
@Finiras
flag the boxes called "is selectable", "is revealed" and "is acquired"
jj0ck33 1 year ago
@jj0ck33 thanks mate, i figured it out, i used an old version of the savegame editor. do you know if legion also has other hidden dialogue? besides garrus recriotment mission and freedom's hope?
Finiras 1 year ago
Legion=win
devindenman 1 year ago 59
transport her as cargo priceless
looktospaceandsee 1 year ago
"a punch to the face is also likely" win
beetlebailey69 1 year ago 4
i dont understand, why have all this dialog for legion if you never can bring him to the first lot of recuitment missions
0o0dead0o0 1 year ago
i think they wer gunna have it so you could get legion early in the game but changed it last minuet and forgot to remove the dialog
yibuu2 1 year ago
Legion was originally intended to be recruitable much, much earlier in the game. They decided to put him at the Reaper IFF mission, though, but left all the dialogue for him, since it might have messed with the coding if removed.
RBrim08 1 year ago
@0o0dead0o0 You can do it on the pc with a little file editting. They had to segment the game to work within the hardware limits of consoles.
evilirnoob 1 year ago
@ 2:38 Haha
Ravusvita 1 year ago
I wish they gave you the option to just bring one teammate, feels more dramatic for some reason
DaLucster72 1 year ago
Legion was probably my favorite character, and I was pretty livid that he was only available for two missions before people started dying, so, following some advice, I put off doing his loyalty mission so I could do some other loyalty missions before the countdown to the suicide mission started, as per one site's recommendation, but when I docked at the Migrant Fleet, the ship got attacked anyways and, after doing Tali & Legion's loyalty missions, when I rescued the crew, half of them were dead.
Alenn95 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Your Shepard looks like a retarded nigger.
christmaspoo911 1 year ago
my theory is that they made everybody say the same situation lines, and THEN they decided when they come up
silverhawkroman 1 year ago
What's the point of having a character only available for... well two mission if you want to get to the Collector base before all your shipmates get killed?
LordDrakmord 1 year ago
@LordDrakmord
Yeah, it's sad that Legion, Tali, Samara and Thane has so many dialogs, yet they can't be heard without hacking the game.
I think it had something to do with the disc swapping. Still pretty lame excuse to put Legion at the end of the game. I can take having to swap discs every hour if it meant I could have Legion recruit able from the beginning. Same goes for everyone else.
HelloChief117 1 year ago
Such a shame legion is only usable 2 missions in the vanilla game. My guess is that it wasn't supposed to be like that because he has dialogue that shouldn't be there. Probably a late decision, for the worse in my opinion.
FrostByte112 2 years ago
I don't know it sort of makes sense, from a narrative standpoint. Given the dossier system they used and no one knowing that all the Geth weren't in the Reaper corner. You couldn't go looking for one to recruit and none of the other missions outside of maybe Haestrom which you don't have to do, would fit just running into him.
Funny dialogue though.
sepewrath 2 years ago
Why would you make a character like this? He's a complete asshole....
hunter87j 2 years ago 2
That would be the point of going Renegade, I guess. It's "bad-ass". I still prefer Paragon.
It least it's just acting like a callous hardass, this time. The things you had to do and say for Dark Side/Closed Fist points in past Bioware games have been unbelievably stupid.
Lleihsad 1 year ago 2