converting go-kart to E85

[OldWeaponsRCool]

The song from 3:48 to 4:34 is Celebrate by Three Dog Night

[oldstock1607]

Am I retarded for not knowing what E-85 is?

[Cmob68]

nice job

[cat123456789101]

where do you get e85

[jmoney321123]

i know this video is super old and you might not remember but did the e85 make a big hp increase

[Towlieee]

@jmoney321123 e85 will actually make you lose horsepower, unless you build your motor to benefit from the higher octane of the e85. With advanced ignition timing and/or more compression you can gain more power with e85 over standard low octane fuel

[CrudeDude]

@Towlieee You're exactly right! I was wondering how much power he lost switching to E85! No squeeze, stock timing....LOL...probably got it down to about 4 HP! LOL!

[switchgrassfuel]

@CrudeDude i doubt he lost power. E85 may have less btu than gas but you can put way more fuel in a cylinder and still get good combustion. I have never lost any power using E85. just use more fuel. don't knock it till you try it. E85 is a grate fuel.

[CrudeDude]

@switchgrassfuel "Don't knock it if you haven't tried it" I run a California street legal 3100 pound car with a 13:1 420" engine @ 13:1 on E100. Ran 11.90 on street tires thru the mufflers. I HAVE tried it. The car runs quicker on 100LL gasoline than alky because of the lack of compression.

[switchgrassfuel]

@CrudeDude it is not a lack of compression. E100 or E98 is like 117+ octane. you can compress the shit out of it. sound to me like your car needs an upgraded fuel system. 13:1 is not that high of compression for E100. even E85 can handle 13:1 compression. try dumping a lot more fuel in and you should beat 100LL. the only thing i use 100LL is for flying. i haven't rented a plane in years.

[firmclock]

what is e-85 can u tell me plz

[CarboNHeaD123]

I live in the uk and instead of gasoline we have petrol, what i want to know is do you have diesel in the us and is it called diesel? and also what your different fuel variations there are? ie unleaded, super unleaded, city diesel, diesel and so forth

[moonerdizzle]

@CarboNHeaD123 yes, diesel is called diesel, and pretty much all we have is low sulfer, and off road. and we have the standard 3 differnt gas grades

[nitrosteve1]

you just have to retune it . we did with our mini bike and stuff. my dad also does e85 carbs for cars. we have an e85 drag car

[abtatparty]

Have you had any problems with corrosion in your engine? Do you flush it with gasoline after use?

[alekscooool]

is it that hard to talk and say stuff or are you shyyyy??? wtf

[xandercage7681]

E85 is 85% etheonol and 15% gas and ethonol is cheaper but you don't get as good milage out of it but does give a power increse because it carries an o2 molicue that's why you have to richen it to compensate for the extra o2 it also cools and you can convert any gas motor to run on e85 just google it

[MARCOZR1]

Witch one is more expensive???

[TBucket5]

sweet trike ive been workin on one myself

[northerbrewer]

Gasoline is very yellow in your part of the country.

You should evaporate off the light ends and see what remains. Ontario gas used to look very yellow like that. Its wasn't very good quality and used to cause fuel system problems.

[johntaheri]

may i ask what is e-85 is

[ils360]

sounds nice dose it have more power?? i hear you like fords? i do too

[walkingfreak]

hahaha hes replying to haters but i agree with the for " driver returned on foot "

[krankiev]

could you chew your gum any louder? I'm sure everyone wants to hear that

[thewelderdude]

@krankiev, I could if you would like, jackass.

[krankiev]

I notice only negative replies to comments, anger much?

[tractorboy8420]

i heard 3 Dog Night in the backround after the running! lol sweet vid looks great! souds good too ... good thinking... 5 stars form me

[thegreatkoua]

so is that the E85 burn more cleaner or something

[gringopirate]

We get only 2 types of petrol/gas in the uk... normal, which has octane rating of 95 and super unleaded (or whatever the garage wants to call it) which is 99. Then again it is £1.04 per litre... for the 'cheaper' normal stuff

[ILikeWetVaginas]

you forgot to shit in the muffler.

[dm1069]

ha ha ha ah ah aha

[SuperLilcool]

how you learn that

[floppy8889]

can you do this with a kawasaki 14hp f420v comment back if you can thank u

[h200022]

is there anyway to do this to my 82 f350??

[ResidentG33k]

no, fords are gay.

[halopersin]

nice idle man sounds great

[maxxd48]

that cooll u made that

[jbvcw71]

why don't you oil your recoil spring???

Might make it retract on it's own....

There's a small hole on the outside of the cover toward the bottom of the engine. If you take it off it enables you to "soak" it better. I revamp ALOT of 5hp briggs engines and EVERY one needs this done to it. ~Jim

[kingmanspydervs3]

Cool and all but as soon i saw the motor was on a tri it was a waste of time. Not trying to be a jerk but put it on a go-cart frame

[deanmpower]

cool men....

[aaronlaskowski]

very clever, learn this from trial and error or what?

[pilgor87]

that bike rules

[brentduncan29]

this is freakin awesome

[ford1979truck]

what kind of fule is e-85 ??????  asking thanks

[musician1232]

how do u make that kill swich

[thewelderdude]

just a wire that i ground.

[blaze98632]

what is the e-85

[mxf7010g8k]

e-85 is fuel

[hudson493]

if u want ur motoe to go faster get a 15 horse power carb off briggs and stratton ovh lawn mower engine the haul asss with stock everything expect carb

[thewelderdude]

wont work, the carb will be way to big. i have allready tried it with a 12 hp carb. lets just say that the idle speed was a problem

[DRAGTOY1962]

can the same be done with techumseh engines?

[thewelderdude]

yep, i allready did it to my techumseh 6 hp engine.

[markljesse]

thats stupid why would anyone want to convert in to e85 i give you less horse power make your engine twice as bad on gas because you neeed twice as much as it to make the same power thats why you have to drill out the fuel ports it take way more refining to make it witch make its harded on the enviroment and more expencive its like we are going in reverse

[thewelderdude]

1. 30 percent more fuel is required.

2. more hp is produced due to the fact that i advanced the timing and ethanol cools the air fuel charge which becomes more dense

[markljesse]

so %30 more fuel is required like i said you need more fuel to produce the same hp then yo advanced the timing to get more hp like you can do on any engine. Thanks for proving my point

[mattman889]

Now Methyl and Ethyl alcohols even at small 5-15% ratios will eventually eat away the lining to the gastanks of cars and lawn equipment and that is bad but straight E-85 can be used with modifications. My friend has a chainsaw which some how he made it 2 run on

E-85. to save money.

[malangaracing]

hye man am having problem with my briggs (5hp) motor when i install the tank onto the carb it does not go full throttle but i tried and put a container on the bottom with gas and it work fine.can u pleace help me

[dc5000123]

You should check the Diaphram gasket on the side of the carburetor, It may need to be replaced.

[hudson493]

u probly have trash in ur tank

[azrulz41995]

i have a regualar lawn mower can i make a go kart out of it and how?

[malangaracing]

i have a problem wth my briggs i put a racing carb in a factory motor(5hp)with no tank it gose full throttle with out it it dosent.can u plz help me with this

[tamacol]

Did u built the tricycle yourself?

[triz250rtecatedude]

well if u let it run rich wont that ruin your piston rings?

[thewelderdude]

nope. its the oppsite. running it lean will melt the pistons. it's even worse with alcohol based fuels.

[PAC0TAC0]

but the problem with switching with e85 is that it will eat through rubber lines it will eat through you gas lines thats why its not good to mix it up with gas in a normal car also it can cause the gas to gel up in the tank

[thewelderdude]

it will eat through regular rubber fuel lines, but alcohol resistant fuel lines are easy to get ahold of.

mixing gasoline and e85 will NOT cause the gas to gel. e85 already has 15 percent gasoline in it. if anything, the fuel will last longer.

[PAC0TAC0]

it will cause setting trust me and i know it already has it in there

[briggs366]

HOW FAST DOES IT GO.

[thewelderdude]

30 to 35 mph.

[XcarfreakX]

not only does this make your engine outperform others, but it also results in a long-lasting carburetor.

good one!

[diojenesaz]

WHERE DO YOU GET THAT E 85 GASOLINE AT

[ps3callofduty4]

after a while wouldnt it crack the piston it would be like putting nitrous on a go kart

[trailbully]

at 35 seconds what the fuck is a high speed needle? its called a main jet dumbshit!!

[VinnyMartello]

Please understand that if you are doing this to be eco friendly, you are only making things worse. Ethanol decreases gas mileage and you are wasting precious food recourses. That isn't economics... its common sense

[thewelderdude]

i'm much more interested in the horse power gains possible with it. it also smells good before its burnt and after.

[phdclockwork]

if you raise compression you can get the same mpgs and you will have more power

[chevy668]

Any gas over 10% ethanol voids warranties on 2-stroke engines....And when using ethanol gas, mpg decreases, notice how the flame in the end was a lot smaller. I'm working on an HHO gen coupled with a fuel bubbler to get tremendous mpg and no need for catalytic converters

[thewelderdude]

1) you mean 4 stroke

2) who cares about warnties because my car doesn't have one

3) no one gives a damn about a warrnty on a small engien.

4) how will you see in incress of mpg with a hho generator that is only about 75% efficent. that energy has to come from someware.

5) the millage can be fixed if e85 is used in an engine that takes atvantage of its very high octane rating.

[chevy668]

If there is one engine that can take advantage of e85 high octane, its aircraft piston engines, and a 4 cylinder can run ya about 8-10 grand for 120 hp...And the only way to fix the milage problem is to make the engine smaller and have a bigger compression ratio.....Or, just switch to biodiesel and forget about converting carbs, or trying to figure out how to make it more fuel efficent....And as far as HHO gens go...Look up Stan Meyer... 27 gallons of water to go from Los Angles to New York.!!!

[phdclockwork]

"Or, just switch to bio-diesel " you will have to switch engines as well and Americans hate diesels

[benhanson3]

@phdclockwork im american and i cant think of anything better than rolling coal down an old dirt road in a powerstroke with banks pipes

[Camaros5678]

not all do

[xpertech333]

What a great video.... I run all my combustion engines on e85. This simple conversion you show has generated much interest and you should be commended for posting it. I provide kits for e85 conversions for fuel injected engines.

[oneor2ormore]

e85 is 105 to 110 octane it works well with high compression and its cheaper then race gas of the same octane

[2drunksracing]

Now look up a briggs cam, get some offset flywheel keys, an aluminum 3 hp flywheel, and a 3hp coil kit. AND ENJOY!! Nice trike!

[thewelderdude]

sometime, i would like to do a total rebuild and do all that you said and then some.

thanks.

[kings4life05]

yes can you do this to ay engine and i thought e-85 has 85 octane

[thewelderdude]

any engine as long as it has the right carb or if the efi is set up right.

also, the 85 is for 85 percent ethanol.

[VWBAJA2112]

I am going to try this on a 1641cc vw air cooled engian if any one has tried yet please let me know ,it has new made in china 34pict carb new 87mm pistons and cylinders.

[thewelderdude]

just jet the carb 30 to 40 percent richer and it will run like a dream. also, run a cooler spark plug

[SouthWestIron]

Good job. Naysayers lets see you figure out drilling out the air inlet and setting this up. YOu did good welderdude! Keep it up. You've got more mechanical aptitude in your pinky toe than those whiners!

[thewelderdude]

thanks southwestiron.

[krazycardude]

about how much more hp do ya get with that and how much more is e85 than gasoline???

[thewelderdude]

maybe about .5 to .75 more hp. as for price, in neoga, IL, about half an hour from charleston, IL, E85 was 3.15/gallon. regular unleaded was about 3.58/gallon.

long story short, e85 is cheaper.

[KaZmO00Yanni00op0]

kinda pointless to do on a 5hp (SAVE THE EARTH ONE LAWN MOWER AT A TIME)

[thewelderdude]

so, all i want is MORE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gazket]

now it uses more fuel than before. smart

[thewelderdude]

so. . . and your point is. . . ? ? ?

[PHOENIXJ2111]

I just bought some E85 yesturday for $3.45 a gallon for my non flex car.

[nwarpm]

is that good??

[PHOENIXJ2111]

yes when reg gas was selling for $4.05

[mudpuppy4life]

were are you...cali??

[yerfdog95]

will i gain power with the six horse and is it more expensive than gas

[thewelderdude]

yes

no

fyi, just read a few of the comments and all of your questions will be answered.

[freedomtagard]

would this work with a mid 1990's briggs and stratton engine and how much is e-85 per gallon.

[thewelderdude]

not sure on the year, but if the carb is like the one that i have, then it will work

around here, E85 is about 50 cents cheaper than unleaded.

[williamshaw3rd]

i dont think so, the carb is a different style and doesnt have that nut that the welderdude removed...

[seekanddestroy1200]

I think its really funny how i did this before but i didnt have any e 85 to run in the engine i just put gas back in it and just how it says at the end it runs to rich so i had to get a new jet

[thewelderdude]

yeah, i hope e85 does fall off the face of the earth, because i can't undo the mod.

[seekanddestroy1200]

you can change the carbueretors when you need e85 because it only takes about 3 minutes

[thewelderdude]

i only have one good carb right now. thats my problem

[seekanddestroy1200]

hey the carburetors with the float bowl have interchangable jets so all you would have to do is moddify one jet for e85 and keep the other one the same so you could just easily change em out i have that same exact motor and i have used a float bowl carburetors

[tomterahedrob]

can you make it run entirely on ethanol ? still get the same hp from engine?

[thewelderdude]

yes, the only problem is getting it cheap. it will make even more hp than e85 or gasoline.

[ontheroad619]

why pay to get it when you can make it it in own back yard? yes the most expensive part is the actual still which you can make yourself other than that its the type of ethanol your using id use switch grass and the yeast

[qmcconnell]

notice gas has a larger flame. same amount of fuel: more energy. hi tech emissions systems will take care of the black smoke.

[finalfantasyXyuna]

screw emission systems. cars are supposed to run straight pipe!

[yerfdog95]

would this work with a 6.5 hp tecumseh

[thewelderdude]

it will, IF it is an OHV engine, the 6hp tecumseh on my larger go-kart now runs e85. i just had to drill out the main jet, which is the brass bolt that holds the bowl on the carburetor. just send me a message for more info.

[UNDERGROUNDMAFIA]

i make ethel it is fun and so is this new bike im making!

[sambourke07]

can anyone tell me the model of that engine cos i have the same one, but cant find parts on the internet cos i dont have the model. thanks.

[thewelderdude]

i know for a fact that jegs has a few parts for 5hp engines. they are also called "raptor" engines

[quadcorex4]

Are not. Raptors are a whole other series of engines. Don't post what you don't know about.

[thewelderdude]

same engine, same specs, different name.

[brianbdc5]

thats awesome. i wish i had a briggs to play with

[Bl00dyHoNoR]

will this work with a 5HP Honda?

[thewelderdude]

it will if you can figure out how to jet the carb right. its all about the carb.

[5horsepower]

thats fking awsome but does it kill fuel effeciency at all

[thewelderdude]

the effeciency stays about the same. ethanol has less energy in it, about 25% less. thats why it will use more fuel. as the compression ratio is moved up, effeciency goes up.

[Samexplode]

thewelderdude, can you try running a lawnmower with E85?

[thewelderdude]

yes, if it has a fuel line, like on a larger mower, replace it with something alcohol resistant. otherwise, if you can get the jetting right, it will work great.

i myself have yet to run a lawnmower on e85, but did convert my larger go-kart to e85. other than the fuel line drying out, it works great.

[5horsepower]

wat about the power better or worse

[thewelderdude]

hores power wise, i would guess that it gains .25 hp. mostly around 3000 rpm

[meltdown4488]

the gas seems to burn hotter

[thewelderdude]

e85 burns cooler that regular gasoline.

[meltdown4488]

i see

[thewelderdude]

it both burns at a lower temp and removes heat from the engine when it evaporates.

[Conservativesaregood]

the truth is the price of gas is only following the rest of the encomny as the things we buy get more expensive so does gas the cruel joke is e85 has been driving up the price of gas in the biggest way its just a shame

[thewelderdude]

i have to agree with you for the most part.

E85 is not the only problem, but it is making things worse.

i just like the fuel because of the horsepower benefits and the exhause smells like the engine is running strait methanol.

[stefaneisenbeis]

thats the gayiest piece of shit ive ever seen

[trieocorp]

you suck, the concept of putting ethanol in an engine is great!

[Hellaciousoutlaw]

great video but that music has to go

[rm7rmc]

alcohol actualy burns cooler than gas, it takes more alcohol to make the right air to fuel ratio. alcohol is also prone to vapor lock, and hard to start in cold weather.Brazil has used alcohol for fuel for about 29 yrs ,They use sugar cane to make there's insted of corn, they didnt have to put out there tabaco farmers for it, garbage can also be used, andything that can ferment.

[goldenlotuz]

thank you for the video. 5 stars!

[danielhattie2000]

and would it give you a better octane level if you used supreme instead of regular cuz regular is 87 octane and supreme is 91

[strangeyetbeautiful]

The thing is some cars dont run on this. If we stop producing tobacco to grow corn it would help. If alcahal was stopped from being produced we could earn a newer more healthy fuel source. I hope to see the day where this happens. It will be hell but it could save us from global warming so much. It would also reduce cancer and drunk driving. Lives could be saved. It would make America healther and cleaner. How many buts from cigarettes do you see a day? picture them... gone

[danielhattie2000]

yes removeing alcohol and tabaco from the world would make it cleaner but most people drink or smoke to releave stress and the other more popular ways to relaeve stress is to swear and get violent so we can smoke and drink swear here and there and get in a fight or two OR we can remove smokes and beer from it and not be able to go any where without hereing a bizillion curse words and constant riots. now tell me which seems better?

[gasman7777]

can this be done with almost any engine, and where can you get E85?

[thewelderdude]

just about any engine can burn the fuel. its all comes down to the carburetor. if it can be jetted right, then your good.

as for where to get it, follow the following link:

h t t p : / / a f d c m a p 2 . n r e l . g o v / l o c a t o r / f i n d p a n e . a s p

[fordwillkillyou]

bad idea it can be done but its murder for the engine! E-85 burns much hotter than gasoline so its really bad for the engine!

[danielhattie2000]

yes but the air going in is colder so it pretty much evens out

[cumminsfan]

run a richer mixture to keep things cool. thats the purpose of boring the jets.

that being said, i still dont like ethanol. its hard on automotive fuel systems, and absolute murder on marine fuel systems. my 66 dodge dart ran better on 3yr old stale non ethanol gas than it does with e-10!

[flyin400]

How practical would this conversion be on a 400cc Quad engine. The carburetor has larger Jets in it all ready for normal performance purposes.

Any help would be great!

[thewelderdude]

as long as you have easy access to E85. if you do convert fuels, the engine will run cooler, cleaner, and make maybe 2-3% more horsepower. btw, where do you live? when the temperature gets below about 35 degrees, it becomes a pain to start the engine. a quick spray of starter fluid is needed.

[eddiehenjr]

Advancing the timing also makes a difference

[cocoluvsu1]

how fast does it go

[thewelderdude]

im thinking that 15 inch diameter tires, maybe 40mph. i dont have a big enough yard to test it in.

in doing the math i get the following:

at 4500 rpm with a 5:1 ratio and 11.5 inch tires, it will go 30.8mph

at 4500 rpm, a 5:1 ratio and 15 inch tires, it will go 40.2mph.

the 4500 rpm is what the engine seems happy turning.

[quadcorex4]

You're gonna blow your engine. Briggs motors are made to run at 3.6k RPM. 4k hits fine. Any higher than that, oil consumption increases dramatically. No matter how good your rings are.

[thewelderdude]

if it blows, it blows. i have heard of people running the engines on a dyno to the tune of 7200 rpm though.

[tefisachs]

siouxme, are you sure you are a mechanic? either that or you higer octane fuel must be diffrent the the high octane stuff the rest

[tefisachs]

of us can get a hold of? high octane fuels in the form of e85 ( not avalable here in new zealand) ethanol, methanol, and race gas ALL burn at a lower temp then gasoline, and not only that, but they also "soak" up more heat when the eveporate thus cooling the aircharge anywhere from 20-100 dgc. the meth fuel in hydroplanes etc cools the charge so much ice forms on the intake manifold.

[manoalkinho]

in brazil we use ethanol a long time ago...in cars, go carts, bikes...even in 2 strokes..you got some more hp whith alcohool...

the new cars in here hos rides whith gas an ethanol was o copi of brazilian cars.. the brasilian vw(volkswagen) created the tecnologi..and gmc copy...ghaghagha(now the americans are worryed about the end of the petrol and is loking for new alternatives)

naa naa

[siouxme69]

umm dude when u run higher octane in an engine the cylandar walls get very hot and when it gets too hot the piston seizes instantly causing the moter to lock up and the crankshaft rippes the bottom off the rod and then the crank comes back around and knocks rite out the front of the block trust me i know what im talkin about im a mechanic

[thewelderdude]

ummm, ya, first off, E85 burns at a lower temperature that normal gasoline. second, the higher temperatures come from the very high compression ratios used in higher performance engines which is why the high octane fuel is used.

[LeviMan2001]

doesn't e85 actually help cool the engine? also does it have a reduced performance than regular gas?

[thewelderdude]

yes, it does cool the engine in two ways: first, it burns at a lower temperature, and second, it cools the incomming charge of air/fuel.

yes and no, it does reduce gas mileage, but it does give a small horsepower boost because of its cooling effect. then, the higher octane can therefore handle higher compression and/or a supercharger or turbocharger.

btw, its cooling effect also reduces the risk of knocking.

[generalgruesbeck]

Now this is only FYI Racing - Alcohol is used at a rate of twice that of gasoline. It takes as much as 35 gallons of alcohol for a 30 Lap A Main event. Where as about 16 gal. of CAM3 or high 105 octane gasoline for the same racing event. Not advise-able to run a 900hp engine in an enclosed garage, burns eyes & throat badly!!! running on Alcohol.

[thewelderdude]

now we are talking about methanol. the fumes are nasty. they are even noticable with e85 after a while. btw, whats in CAM3? just high octane gasoline? alcohol? maybe nitromethane?

[1skiinIan]

Yes, I agree. Have you ever poured this stuff on your hand? Your hand feels super could until it evaporates (wich it does super fucking fast)

[eddiehenjr]

Because it's an alcohol - that's what it does...

[1skiinIan]

exactly

[beeterolds]

without enlarging the jet this will happen.. it will run much leaner...but the way he set it up it runs fine...E85 is a good thing...its higher Octane rating allows you to run more compression because its cooler burn...and high resistance to detonation. Keep up the good work!!

[mistfree15]

the welderdude is right they use higher octane in higher comp engines. octane makes gas less explosive there fore you dont get pre detonation other wise know as "ping". i dont think are a mechanic.

[mistfree15]

i ment to reply on siouxme69

[generalgruesbeck]

There is a racing fuel called CAM3 - Don't run that in a B&S engine - the motor won't last long - usually a rod through the block. It is quite high octane.

[thewelderdude]

the hign octane wont put a rod through a block. infact, it will reduce the risk of killing your piston with knocking.

[generalgruesbeck]

But, maybe by using the 15% gasoline (E85), maybe there might be a visible flame (???) It would seem the gasoline would make it start better ??? just guessing.

[generalgruesbeck]

Alcohol gives about 35% more horsepower over gasoline. In a car engine, there is another added bonus - if the engine runs hot (220-265+ deg. F) with gas, alcohol will cause it to run no hotter than about 165 degree F (no thermostat). Alcohol dries out the gaskets in carb and reason for the special carb. which has alcohol type gaskets. Also, don't use aluminum fuel lines! GM found out hard way.

[thewelderdude]

so far, it still runs fine. the gaskets all look fine and it even runs in the cold weather around here. its about 35 degrees and only needs a sqrirt of starter fluid to start up. over all, im happy with it.

[generalgruesbeck]

I am more in reference to dirt track racing with Chevy V8's. On a normal say 500 CFM Holley carb, you can get away with running Alcohol for awhile, but what happens is the alcohol eats/dries out the gaskets. Pretty soon you have a leak of alcohol on a hot intake manifold - not a good deal! Usually have to squirt gasoline in the carb on initial start up. Have to watch low for heat waves - fire! no visible flame.