@CkMaverick I remember that History Channel documentary on the Presidents - it said that Jimmy Carter was "perhaps the greatest man ever to be a lousy President."
I'm a little surprised that someone the panel didn't recognize his face. Carter had been on the cover of Time in an article of the "new breed" of Southern governors (Carter, Reuben Askew, etc.) who were not segregationists and pushed for civil rights and equal opportunity in their states.
Carter had to take over from the fucken crook of Nixon and lack of knowledge of Ford So don't blame him. Look at the shit we have had since and now. Carter and Clinto are the only two I respect. He took over when the country was a mess just like now.
@djAmericantoast178 Definitely, he approached the presidency as an engineer, not a politician. A president MUST be a politician, which is what Bill Clinton was good at. Unfortunately, Barak Obama hasn't acted enough like a politician, although maybe he finally wised up.
@djAmericantoast178 Definitely, he approached the presidency as an engineer, not a politician. A president MUST be a politician, which is what Bill Clinton was good at. Unfortunately, Barak Obama hasn't acted enough like a politician, although maybe he finally wised up.
Carter may have been too smart for his own good, he was a micro manager who simnply wanted to know all the details on everything, he needed to deligate more, he also wouldn't play ball with the Democratic leadership (Tip O'Neil) He was the last Military acadamy grad to serve as president graduating 59 out of 820 with a degree in physics ...smart and decent but perhaps just not cut out for the job. But still I would take him over reagan.
Though he was an uninspiring president, he was highly intelligent and a true Christian and if we had followed his energy conservation policies we would have 99 cent gasoline and plenty of time to develop alternative energy.
Now most historians and clear-thinking people say that George W. Bush was without question the worst President in American history. A lot of people look back at Jimmy Carter's days in office and wish we had listened to him when he tried to make us energy independent. Unfortunately, Reagan and the Republican Senate undid those moves to make us energy independent.
It's amazing how he was responsible for the safe return of the hostages, something tells me that if reagan were in office they would have all died and war would have been waged....he is a good and decent man who was in reality a good president.
@1macboo Actually, becaused of the botched rescue attempt of the hostages and asylum granted to the Shah of Iran by Carter in the first place, the Iranians held the hostages longer than they had probably planned. The hostages were released January 20th, 1981, shortly AFTER Reagan was inaugurated and Carter was no longer the U. S. President, so Carter couldn't claim they were released during his administration. And the Iranians didn't want to encounter Reagan's wrath. Remember Grenada in '83?
@Tater1951 Carter didn't grant asylum, he allowed the Shah in for medical care but soon the Shah was forced to leave the US for Panama. Carter would NOT let the Shah stay. Why the delay on the freeing? Spite, plain and simple, the iranians hated Carter & it should be noted that Reagan sent Carter to W Germany to meet them, even reagan knew it was Carter who secured their freedom.I fear reagan would NOT have brought them home alive. I was in the navy-intel at the time and remember it very well.
Schusterlehrling said he was a good president. People with any rudimentary knowledge of history know that he is consistently ranked as one of the worst presidents in American history. Also, that's being generous. Nice man, horrific, weak president.
Actually, that's not true at all. Academic research generally places Carter in the bottom half of presidents, but not in the bottom quarter. Almost universally, six presidents are considered to be the very worst: Pierce and Buchannan, who did nothing as the War Between the States developed in front of them, Andrew Johnson and Grant, who botched Reconstruction, and Harding and Nixon, for their corruption.
It's hard to believe to me - but I am from Europe that it was obvious to the program directors that none of the panelists would know who to governor of the state of Georgia was or how he looked like ...
Could this still be the case now, in 2010? I mean: do the majority of Americans still not know the governors of their states?
This may come as a surprise to you, but American has FIFTY states, (fifty-seven if you're Obama). People in say Florida have no reason whatsoever to know who, or what the Governor of, say South Dakota is or what he/she looks like...unless they were someone who had a NATIONAL presence, which few of our governors do. (Unless they have plans for NATIONAL office). So yes, "the majority of Americans still not know". Do YOU know who a member of Parliament from Hull looks like or IS?
Thanks Roryvids. Well, I don't even know where Hull lies exactly, but I'm no English ... I'm from the country where the new European President comes from (Does anyone know his name????). On the other hand, the panelists are not exactly "average Americans", I suppose, so it still surprises me that the program directors were so sure as not to blindfold them ...
Why is that hard for you to beleive? Governors have no national power. Their authority only applies to their specific state, and their election is only dependent on the votes of citizens of their own state, so why would you expect every American to be able to identify all 50 governors, when only one of them has anything to do with themselves?
Well, I do believe it, of course, as I can see with my own eyes that the panel does not know him. But my surprise is not that not EVERY American wouldn't recognize him, but that the program directors were sure that NONE of the panelists would know him ... In fact, thinking about it: my surprise is more about Carter having been elected president, being as unknown as appears from this appearance in What's my line ...
What? You're suprised that he got elected president because the panelists didn't know who he was? His appearance on that show was 3 years prior to the beginning of his presidency. As he campaigned, he made himself known to the country. That fact that the panelists didn't know who he is should not be a surprise to anyone. Countless leaders of many countries were unknown prior to taking office.
Thanks Steve. I just try to understand. As I stated before I'm not an American. In fact I'm from Belgium, which is smaller than NewYork State: we know almost every mayor of every town in my country... In 1976, the election year, I travelled during 4 months trough the United States. Everybody knew Carter at that time, of course, and I did not realize that 2 years earlier he was extremely unknown... Do you think Carter had the presidency in his mind already when he appeared in this show?
The Jimmy Carter UFO Incident is the name given to an incident in which Jimmy Carter (US President 1977-1981) reported seeing an unidentified flying object while at Leary, Georgia in 1969.
Freeze at 3:36 and see a rare shot of Arlene Francis wearing her eyeglasses. Way back sometime in the Steve Allen ?? WML era, a broadcast ended with Dorothy Kilgallen, Arlene Francis, Steve Allen (I think) and Bennett Cerf all wearing each others' eyeglasses. I forget why they did that but I remember it was very funny.
( 1:36 ) Dana Valery, internationalist singer in a classic just-another-pretty-face moment. I rate this in the top 10 of great panelist misidentifications.
Interesting though her mention of the spiritual: years later she became a a Reiki-hypnotherapy healer.
Gil Fates wrote that Carter made contact with WML with the idea of appearing as an X. Part of his campaign strategy. Gil Fates and Wally Bruner made contact with Gerald Ford in 1969 to book him as a mystery guest.
This aired on Dec 13 1973 in the midst of the Watergate scandal, thus the comments about how easy the Republicans were making Carter's job at the time.
Interesting references to "Deliverance" and "The Longest Yard". I'm not sure I'd be too quick to brag about having "Deliverance" made in my state, but I'm sure Carter had no idea at the time how deeply ingrained the "squeal like a pig" line was going to become in popular culture.
I Thought This Was In 1974,Because President Jimmy Carter Announced His Candidacy For President Of The United States That Year.Keri Nowling, Seymour, Indiana
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kazakhaul2011 2 months ago
@CkMaverick I remember that History Channel documentary on the Presidents - it said that Jimmy Carter was "perhaps the greatest man ever to be a lousy President."
jaqqqqqqattack 3 months ago
I'm a little surprised that someone the panel didn't recognize his face. Carter had been on the cover of Time in an article of the "new breed" of Southern governors (Carter, Reuben Askew, etc.) who were not segregationists and pushed for civil rights and equal opportunity in their states.
observer9670 3 months ago
Carter had to take over from the fucken crook of Nixon and lack of knowledge of Ford So don't blame him. Look at the shit we have had since and now. Carter and Clinto are the only two I respect. He took over when the country was a mess just like now.
sixnightsaweek 4 months ago
@djAmericantoast178 Definitely, he approached the presidency as an engineer, not a politician. A president MUST be a politician, which is what Bill Clinton was good at. Unfortunately, Barak Obama hasn't acted enough like a politician, although maybe he finally wised up.
BuddyNovinski 5 months ago
@djAmericantoast178 Definitely, he approached the presidency as an engineer, not a politician. A president MUST be a politician, which is what Bill Clinton was good at. Unfortunately, Barak Obama hasn't acted enough like a politician, although maybe he finally wised up.
BuddyNovinski 5 months ago
A decent and friendly person who I found to a pleasure to talk to. I am, of course talking about Gene Shalit.
Jimmy Carter, on the other hand, was an egomaniac who thought the only thing missing from some intractable problems was his wisdom. Sound familiar?
jerseytarzan2 6 months ago
He may not have been one of the better Presidents, but he is most definitely one of the greatest human beings to ever become President.
CkMaverick 7 months ago
Did you know that Arlene was in her late 60's here? She looked awesome!
PositiveAttitude1 8 months ago
@PositiveAttitude1 Arlene was born in 1909. So she would have been 64 or 65 at this time.
observer9670 3 months ago
what year was this
PinkCowgirl925 9 months ago
Carter may have been too smart for his own good, he was a micro manager who simnply wanted to know all the details on everything, he needed to deligate more, he also wouldn't play ball with the Democratic leadership (Tip O'Neil) He was the last Military acadamy grad to serve as president graduating 59 out of 820 with a degree in physics ...smart and decent but perhaps just not cut out for the job. But still I would take him over reagan.
1macboo 9 months ago
Though he was an uninspiring president, he was highly intelligent and a true Christian and if we had followed his energy conservation policies we would have 99 cent gasoline and plenty of time to develop alternative energy.
exenrontexas 9 months ago
Now most historians and clear-thinking people say that George W. Bush was without question the worst President in American history. A lot of people look back at Jimmy Carter's days in office and wish we had listened to him when he tried to make us energy independent. Unfortunately, Reagan and the Republican Senate undid those moves to make us energy independent.
ipgy 10 months ago
THE WORST PRESIDENT OF MY LIFETIME AND ONE OF THE WORST IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
billwright331 11 months ago
I remember Carter. I think he had the right idea, had a good heart. He just needed more experience before becoming president.
Thanks for posting. I didn't know he did this.
snoops71 1 year ago 2
It's amazing how he was responsible for the safe return of the hostages, something tells me that if reagan were in office they would have all died and war would have been waged....he is a good and decent man who was in reality a good president.
1macboo 1 year ago
@1macboo Actually, becaused of the botched rescue attempt of the hostages and asylum granted to the Shah of Iran by Carter in the first place, the Iranians held the hostages longer than they had probably planned. The hostages were released January 20th, 1981, shortly AFTER Reagan was inaugurated and Carter was no longer the U. S. President, so Carter couldn't claim they were released during his administration. And the Iranians didn't want to encounter Reagan's wrath. Remember Grenada in '83?
Tater1951 9 months ago
@Tater1951 Carter didn't grant asylum, he allowed the Shah in for medical care but soon the Shah was forced to leave the US for Panama. Carter would NOT let the Shah stay. Why the delay on the freeing? Spite, plain and simple, the iranians hated Carter & it should be noted that Reagan sent Carter to W Germany to meet them, even reagan knew it was Carter who secured their freedom.I fear reagan would NOT have brought them home alive. I was in the navy-intel at the time and remember it very well.
1macboo 9 months ago
Arlene is still hot.
1madDogz 1 year ago 2
He should have gone straight to his good works as post presidential leader...his years as president were not that spectacular.
jimmbo13 1 year ago
what a great president, good fellow at heart, a people leader.
vince3811 1 year ago
4 years of him as president was the greatest gift the repulican party ever received
tomterrific4 1 year ago 8
@tomterrific4
you mean obama.
MrTabby5000 1 year ago
He should have called it quits after being governor, for all our sakes.
russcottt 1 year ago
Service to women? Hahaha
brianclough 1 year ago
Does he recruit nuns? :)
XMLarry 1 year ago
Schusterlehrling said he was a good president. People with any rudimentary knowledge of history know that he is consistently ranked as one of the worst presidents in American history. Also, that's being generous. Nice man, horrific, weak president.
alealoa2002 2 years ago
@alealoa2002
Actually, that's not true at all. Academic research generally places Carter in the bottom half of presidents, but not in the bottom quarter. Almost universally, six presidents are considered to be the very worst: Pierce and Buchannan, who did nothing as the War Between the States developed in front of them, Andrew Johnson and Grant, who botched Reconstruction, and Harding and Nixon, for their corruption.
rucksplash08 2 years ago 3
@rucksplash08 He oughta be closer to the middle of the pack. He only inherited the mess that was made of this country after Watergate.
auntbecky 9 months ago
@rucksplash08 shouldnt obama be there?
Madnessfan34537 6 months ago
@Madnessfan34537 Considering that Obama's presidency is likely not even a third done, it's far too early to judge.
rucksplash08 6 months ago
It's hard to believe to me - but I am from Europe that it was obvious to the program directors that none of the panelists would know who to governor of the state of Georgia was or how he looked like ...
Could this still be the case now, in 2010? I mean: do the majority of Americans still not know the governors of their states?
sinjoor11 2 years ago
This may come as a surprise to you, but American has FIFTY states, (fifty-seven if you're Obama). People in say Florida have no reason whatsoever to know who, or what the Governor of, say South Dakota is or what he/she looks like...unless they were someone who had a NATIONAL presence, which few of our governors do. (Unless they have plans for NATIONAL office). So yes, "the majority of Americans still not know". Do YOU know who a member of Parliament from Hull looks like or IS?
Roryvids 2 years ago
Thanks Roryvids. Well, I don't even know where Hull lies exactly, but I'm no English ... I'm from the country where the new European President comes from (Does anyone know his name????). On the other hand, the panelists are not exactly "average Americans", I suppose, so it still surprises me that the program directors were so sure as not to blindfold them ...
sinjoor11 2 years ago
Why is that hard for you to beleive? Governors have no national power. Their authority only applies to their specific state, and their election is only dependent on the votes of citizens of their own state, so why would you expect every American to be able to identify all 50 governors, when only one of them has anything to do with themselves?
Steve406SBC 2 years ago
Well, I do believe it, of course, as I can see with my own eyes that the panel does not know him. But my surprise is not that not EVERY American wouldn't recognize him, but that the program directors were sure that NONE of the panelists would know him ... In fact, thinking about it: my surprise is more about Carter having been elected president, being as unknown as appears from this appearance in What's my line ...
sinjoor11 2 years ago
What? You're suprised that he got elected president because the panelists didn't know who he was? His appearance on that show was 3 years prior to the beginning of his presidency. As he campaigned, he made himself known to the country. That fact that the panelists didn't know who he is should not be a surprise to anyone. Countless leaders of many countries were unknown prior to taking office.
Steve406SBC 2 years ago
Thanks Steve. I just try to understand. As I stated before I'm not an American. In fact I'm from Belgium, which is smaller than NewYork State: we know almost every mayor of every town in my country... In 1976, the election year, I travelled during 4 months trough the United States. Everybody knew Carter at that time, of course, and I did not realize that 2 years earlier he was extremely unknown... Do you think Carter had the presidency in his mind already when he appeared in this show?
sinjoor11 2 years ago
In a certain sene, each state of the U.S. is kind of like it's own country.
As far as Carter having the presidency in mind at that time, all I could do is guess, but if he did have it in mind, I wouldn't be surprised.
SteveSbc406 2 years ago
she talks about him looking "spiritual" - well carter does look like a televangelist!
arnyjk 2 years ago 3
So strange to see these famous people not recognizing this now-very-famous-but-then-not-at-all-famous man.
WrestlingHeretic 2 years ago
The Jimmy Carter UFO Incident is the name given to an incident in which Jimmy Carter (US President 1977-1981) reported seeing an unidentified flying object while at Leary, Georgia in 1969.
CHVNX 2 years ago
strong governor, weak president
Benyan1763 2 years ago
@Benyan1763
He was agood president.
Not just a pretender like Reagan.
The thing is that the prophet is least known in his own country.
You know, Jesus was even crucified and Hannas still kept his office.
If you would aks the people of that time they would say Jesus was a traitor and Hannas the greatest preisdent.
They r, of course, mistaken....
schusterlehrling 2 years ago
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Weak governor, weak president, weak man.
Steve406SBC 2 years ago
So Ford was on WML as House Minority Leader, Carter as Governor of Georgia, and Reagan as an actor.
Were any other presidents on WML?
shoredude2 2 years ago 2
Soupy Sales is God!
Korea4Me 2 years ago
You know: if NBC had broadcast WML and G-T had been more careful in preserving its videotapes, we would have color WML records as early as 1959!
soulierinvestments 3 years ago
Freeze at 3:36 and see a rare shot of Arlene Francis wearing her eyeglasses. Way back sometime in the Steve Allen ?? WML era, a broadcast ended with Dorothy Kilgallen, Arlene Francis, Steve Allen (I think) and Bennett Cerf all wearing each others' eyeglasses. I forget why they did that but I remember it was very funny.
soulierinvestments 3 years ago
( 1:36 ) Dana Valery, internationalist singer in a classic just-another-pretty-face moment. I rate this in the top 10 of great panelist misidentifications.
Interesting though her mention of the spiritual: years later she became a a Reiki-hypnotherapy healer.
Gil Fates wrote that Carter made contact with WML with the idea of appearing as an X. Part of his campaign strategy. Gil Fates and Wally Bruner made contact with Gerald Ford in 1969 to book him as a mystery guest.
soulierinvestments 3 years ago
She's a dumbass.
dpsulliv 3 years ago 3
This aired on Dec 13 1973 in the midst of the Watergate scandal, thus the comments about how easy the Republicans were making Carter's job at the time.
Interesting references to "Deliverance" and "The Longest Yard". I'm not sure I'd be too quick to brag about having "Deliverance" made in my state, but I'm sure Carter had no idea at the time how deeply ingrained the "squeal like a pig" line was going to become in popular culture.
VonCringe 3 years ago
Haven't thought of "Deliverance" in ages. The scenery DID look great, even though I wanted to scream at what went on in front of the scenery.
soulierinvestments 3 years ago 2
I Thought This Was In 1974,Because President Jimmy Carter Announced His Candidacy For President Of The United States That Year.Keri Nowling, Seymour, Indiana
Keri1131982 3 years ago