Notice that when Savannah Guthrie points out that there were military commissions when the "shoe bomber" was given a regular trial, Bond just ignores her and sticks with his talking point.
The shoe bomber was read his Miranda rights within five minutes of being arrested, where was all this Republican anger then?
The GOP is 'waltzing' into a trap. They think they are poised to take back the congress but I predict a shocker for these double talking money grubbing leeches.
republican policies of being against anything the current administration does even though they have supported such policies recently make every single one of them a threat to national security.
On the issue of whether "terrorists" should be tried in a criminal or military court, here is President Reagan's lead anti-terrorism expert L. Paul Bremer articulating Reagan's policy. (cont)
(cont) - "Another important measure we have developed in our overall strategy is applying the rule of law to terrorists. Terrorists are criminals. They commit criminal actions like murder, kidnapping, and arson, and countries have laws to punish criminals. So a major element of our strategy has been to delegitimize terrorists, to get society to see them for what they arecriminalsand to use democracys most potent tool, the rule of law against them." - L. Paul Bremer in 1987
Every time I hear GOP apologists say Bush "kept America safe" I'm reminded of the largest terrorist attack on a country in the history of this planet.
You're absolutely right Stalin - we should fear people on airplanes wearing underpants. Following the foiled shoe bomber attack passengers are now required to remove their shoes before boarding a flight. Obama must force people to remove their underwear before entering any US domestic or US bound flight! If someone is found wearing "death panties" - all planes must be grounded and Obama must drop what he's doing and rush to said location.
Good point, StalinsLoveChild - we must end this terror threat known as Christmas. While we're at, let's get rid of Easter too, God only knows what could happen that day! Ever year we should bomb something on Easter just in case something does or might happen. Someone's finally talking some sense - Thank you SLC! You're a true patriot!!! Palin 2015!
If these terrorist operatives that we have captured were enlisted soldiers or Officers of an army from any country, I would say give them a Military Tribunal. But they are NOT a part of any military. These are just common thugs and criminals and scum, and common citizens, NOT part of any military from any country and so do not qualify under any set of standards for a Military tribunal!!!!!!
You are wrong, and that is what is wrong with this policy. You cannot treat terrorists like criminals. The system is not set up to deal with terrorism. They are a part of an armed force that has publicly stated their intentions to attack us and kill women and children in large numbers. They are enemy combatants. They need to be detained and interrogated for intelligence that would lead to capture the rest of them.
How could you prosecute them if they were? They would be enemy combants that broke no laws, but if you send them to their home country most will be given a hero's welcome from the people and a slap on the wrist from their governments.
Stop taking prisoners and you'll stop having bureaucracy imo
So you'd rather legitimize them as a standing army? You fucking idiot, that's when the Geneva Convention rules kick in. Margaret Thatcher tried IRA terrorists as common criminals and tossed them in civilian prisons to eliminate their status as military or political prisoners.
Thanks loon my thoughts exactly. these are common scumbag criminals and do not have any right to a Military tribunal. I mean, is the underpants bomber a member of the Yemenese Army or the Nigerian Army? No he's just an evil sickindividual who tried to murder a bunch of innocent people, including women and children- all civilians, in cold blood on Christmas in a plane over America. Not a soldier who fights other soldiers in the light of day.
No, we are not legitimizing them as a standing army and this is why Geneva does not apply to them. They are not simply criminals. Their efforts go beyond a simply conspiracy or even organized crime. We are not talking about a single nutcase but an organization of terrorists determined to kill hundreds of thousands of American women and children. This is why preemption is critical.
Yes you are. Military courts are for military crimes. You try them there and you have just legitamized al Qaeda as a standing army of a sovereign state.
Not under the military commission acts. You are simply wrong about this. Being tried by a military court does not mean Al Qaeda is a standing army of a sovereign state. It only means they are an enemy of our sovereign state.
McVeigh was not a member of Al Qaeda. His issue was against the government. There is a difference. I do not believe we have military commission back then anyway.
military commissions were used in 1865,1866, 1942-1949, and again in 2006. military commissions are only called upon during a time of actual war(between two or more countries) and or political assassinations, such as the Lincoln assassination.
Notably, the new legislation does not attempt to limit the scope of the commission's jurisdiction to traditional notions of armed conflict. Indeed, like the previous legislation, it seems to take an extremely broad view of the "hostilities" with Al Qaeda, suggesting that the armed conflict may have begun even before the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Poor ol Kit forgot he was on a News organization that cuts through your bullshit, and asks direct factual questions. He must of thought he would be listened too, and allowed to politicize the issue like he would get at FOX.
The power-hungry republicons are mainly interested in power; they don't know how to govern effectively; but they don't give a damn if they run the country into the ground, as was done by the previous administration.
The sad thing is that a lot of suicidal Americans are with the US destroyers, and repeatedly elect and re-elect them in spite of the history of destructiveness of the republicons!
They would rather see the country totally fail than support the President. They are doing more hamr to this country than any terrorist ever has or ever will.
The wild bush, the worst President, almost completely destroy the country; and the republicons are eager for another chance to finish bush's job of destruction.
The crazy thing is that many Americans WILL vote in republicons to destroy the country.
Like one bent on suicide, it's like US has some bad karma coming and Americans are more than willing to play the part in the self-destruction of US. It's like a replay of the evil roman empire, rotting from within.
All Republicans should resign. And not accept any evil gummint payout, retirement or severence package.
dizzymasekela 2 years ago 2
Notice that when Savannah Guthrie points out that there were military commissions when the "shoe bomber" was given a regular trial, Bond just ignores her and sticks with his talking point.
The shoe bomber was read his Miranda rights within five minutes of being arrested, where was all this Republican anger then?
eatmorenachos 2 years ago
@eatmorenachos It was still being organized into neat talking points.
kinga750 2 years ago
The GOP is 'waltzing' into a trap. They think they are poised to take back the congress but I predict a shocker for these double talking money grubbing leeches.
mindoermatta 2 years ago 2
Bond is a fucking traitor.
loonmaniac 2 years ago 4
Sen Bond shouldn't be in the Senate - we can do sooooo much better.
DillonX 2 years ago 4
republican policies of being against anything the current administration does even though they have supported such policies recently make every single one of them a threat to national security.
Roonskii 2 years ago 3
On the issue of whether "terrorists" should be tried in a criminal or military court, here is President Reagan's lead anti-terrorism expert L. Paul Bremer articulating Reagan's policy. (cont)
im4wur2 2 years ago 2
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(cont) - "Another important measure we have developed in our overall strategy is applying the rule of law to terrorists. Terrorists are criminals. They commit criminal actions like murder, kidnapping, and arson, and countries have laws to punish criminals. So a major element of our strategy has been to delegitimize terrorists, to get society to see them for what they arecriminalsand to use democracys most potent tool, the rule of law against them." - L. Paul Bremer in 1987
im4wur2 2 years ago
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Obama should step down befor our country is in ruins.
bigdogsdontbark 2 years ago
Hateful Repubicans. Willing to destroy the country to get their filthy power. Power tripping madmen and liars screwing up the country.
chinacat22 2 years ago 5
The worst attack on our nation in history happened on Republicans/George Bush's watch.
stanjz 2 years ago 4
@stanjz - Every time I hear GOP apologists say Bush "kept America safe" I'm reminded of: "Well, other than that how was the play... Mrs. Lincoln?"
im4wur2 2 years ago 4
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Every time I hear GOP apologists say Bush "kept America safe" I'm reminded of the largest terrorist attack on a country in the history of this planet.
803brando 2 years ago 2
Bond should retire. People who make important decisions should have good sense and good information. Bond has neither.
colorclocks 2 years ago 2
I love it when these right wing inbred knuckle draggen neanderthal morons get there nuts handed to them. Nothing but hypocrites and liars
disturbed341 2 years ago
You're absolutely right Stalin - we should fear people on airplanes wearing underpants. Following the foiled shoe bomber attack passengers are now required to remove their shoes before boarding a flight. Obama must force people to remove their underwear before entering any US domestic or US bound flight! If someone is found wearing "death panties" - all planes must be grounded and Obama must drop what he's doing and rush to said location.
drernie3000 2 years ago
lol if people do get what they want, more security, more inconvenience, i wonder who they would blame it on? one can only guess.
803brando 2 years ago
But but but but I heard Palin will sleep with us if we vote for her!!! Or was that porn DVD I watched misleading?
loonmaniac 2 years ago
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loonmaniac 2 years ago
Good point, StalinsLoveChild - we must end this terror threat known as Christmas. While we're at, let's get rid of Easter too, God only knows what could happen that day! Ever year we should bomb something on Easter just in case something does or might happen. Someone's finally talking some sense - Thank you SLC! You're a true patriot!!! Palin 2015!
drernie3000 2 years ago
Kit Bond is an America-hating sonofabitch. Pukes like him make me sick. Fucking traitor.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
If these terrorist operatives that we have captured were enlisted soldiers or Officers of an army from any country, I would say give them a Military Tribunal. But they are NOT a part of any military. These are just common thugs and criminals and scum, and common citizens, NOT part of any military from any country and so do not qualify under any set of standards for a Military tribunal!!!!!!
dejahthoris 2 years ago
I am agreeing with the civilian trials and disagreeing with Bond, so why vote me down?
dejahthoris 2 years ago
You are wrong, and that is what is wrong with this policy. You cannot treat terrorists like criminals. The system is not set up to deal with terrorism. They are a part of an armed force that has publicly stated their intentions to attack us and kill women and children in large numbers. They are enemy combatants. They need to be detained and interrogated for intelligence that would lead to capture the rest of them.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
Are these terrorist forces a part of the Military of any country or not? NO! Therefore how can they be tried in a military tribunal??
dejahthoris 2 years ago
@dejahthoris
How could you prosecute them if they were? They would be enemy combants that broke no laws, but if you send them to their home country most will be given a hero's welcome from the people and a slap on the wrist from their governments.
Stop taking prisoners and you'll stop having bureaucracy imo
Fitzcard 2 years ago
So you'd rather legitimize them as a standing army? You fucking idiot, that's when the Geneva Convention rules kick in. Margaret Thatcher tried IRA terrorists as common criminals and tossed them in civilian prisons to eliminate their status as military or political prisoners.
Fucking dumbass, get a clue.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
Thanks loon my thoughts exactly. these are common scumbag criminals and do not have any right to a Military tribunal. I mean, is the underpants bomber a member of the Yemenese Army or the Nigerian Army? No he's just an evil sickindividual who tried to murder a bunch of innocent people, including women and children- all civilians, in cold blood on Christmas in a plane over America. Not a soldier who fights other soldiers in the light of day.
dejahthoris 2 years ago
No, we are not legitimizing them as a standing army and this is why Geneva does not apply to them. They are not simply criminals. Their efforts go beyond a simply conspiracy or even organized crime. We are not talking about a single nutcase but an organization of terrorists determined to kill hundreds of thousands of American women and children. This is why preemption is critical.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
Yes you are. Military courts are for military crimes. You try them there and you have just legitamized al Qaeda as a standing army of a sovereign state.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
Not under the military commission acts. You are simply wrong about this. Being tried by a military court does not mean Al Qaeda is a standing army of a sovereign state. It only means they are an enemy of our sovereign state.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
So was Tim McVeigh. Why no tribunal for him? Or Jose Padilla. Why no tribunal for him?
loonmaniac 2 years ago
McVeigh was not a member of Al Qaeda. His issue was against the government. There is a difference. I do not believe we have military commission back then anyway.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
military commissions were used in 1865,1866, 1942-1949, and again in 2006. military commissions are only called upon during a time of actual war(between two or more countries) and or political assassinations, such as the Lincoln assassination.
803brando 2 years ago
Military Commissions Act of 2009
Notably, the new legislation does not attempt to limit the scope of the commission's jurisdiction to traditional notions of armed conflict. Indeed, like the previous legislation, it seems to take an extremely broad view of the "hostilities" with Al Qaeda, suggesting that the armed conflict may have begun even before the September 11, 2001 attacks.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
Sen.Kit Bond and the rest of the GOP are a bunch of 'Tea-Tards'.
He should have been using Sarah Palin's 'Redneck Palm Pilot'
dfwtexxaas 2 years ago 4
this guy is clueless
KeepOnRebelling 2 years ago 6
BRENNAN IS A CRIMINAL and should be in jail,
Bond is right-it's a war crime,not a misdemeanor
TheHauptsturmfuhrer 2 years ago
If you want to listen to a real lyricist search for Bay Cat Rewind
chubbywater 2 years ago
Kit Bond = unpatriotic bastard.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago 6
AWESOME. Thank you for catching GOP lies for once, instead of letting them get away with it. Good job.
RealCaptainAmerica 2 years ago 11
Kit Bond got SPANKED!
OhioDemocrat 2 years ago 13
I am SOOOOOOOO THRILLED that these HYPOCRITICAL GOP SHILLS are FINALLY getting called out on their fear mongering BS!!!!!!!!
It's about DAMN TIME!!!!!
classc63 2 years ago 14
Kit Bond is a revolting scab on the sphincter of humanity .
geffel 2 years ago 9
idiot
vzuffante 2 years ago 2
Poor ol Kit forgot he was on a News organization that cuts through your bullshit, and asks direct factual questions. He must of thought he would be listened too, and allowed to politicize the issue like he would get at FOX.
GBTRU 2 years ago 10
nothing like more irresonsible hyperbole from knuckle draggin teapartyin neanderthal right wing republicans.... what a yutz...
bbbbmer 2 years ago 8
gop wants to run the country but dont want to help the country.
tresdizz 2 years ago 8
@tresdizz
Yep!
The power-hungry republicons are mainly interested in power; they don't know how to govern effectively; but they don't give a damn if they run the country into the ground, as was done by the previous administration.
The sad thing is that a lot of suicidal Americans are with the US destroyers, and repeatedly elect and re-elect them in spite of the history of destructiveness of the republicons!
nirbija 2 years ago 8
They would rather see the country totally fail than support the President. They are doing more hamr to this country than any terrorist ever has or ever will.
dejahthoris 2 years ago
I dont know why I am being voted down, I am agreeing with you!
dejahthoris 2 years ago
Exactly!
The wild bush, the worst President, almost completely destroy the country; and the republicons are eager for another chance to finish bush's job of destruction.
The crazy thing is that many Americans WILL vote in republicons to destroy the country.
Like one bent on suicide, it's like US has some bad karma coming and Americans are more than willing to play the part in the self-destruction of US. It's like a replay of the evil roman empire, rotting from within.
nirbija 2 years ago
Sounds like Kit Bond has gone over the edge. He should resign and run for dictator.
guytuba 2 years ago 5
sack of crap
sennapods 2 years ago 4