Throughout history Christian church killed many times more Europeans than Muslims did. Yet crosses and bell towers are not a symbol of oppression and backwardness? How is cross not a symbol of an entity that is alien to democracy and freedom? It was the church that most staunchly opposed any progress and enlightenment for centuries. And least Muslims brought you some scientific discoveries. What did the Church bring you other than Inquisition and witch hunts? Some wine and crackers on Sundays?
Haven't enough people in Europe died fighting against backward, oppressive power of Christian church to establish an enlightened, democratic, pluralistic society? And them churches still dare to put crosses on their roofs and ring bells. It's an outrage I tell you. Those crosses are eye sores. Every time I see them I think of Galileo, Giordano Bruno, Jan Huss, and many many others. Take them down, be consistent.
Hey Swiss people. How come you don't see crosses on church roofs and church bell towers as symbols of church trying to destroy your secular way of life? Do you know what would happen if church comes to power in Switzerland? It will be good bye democracy, secular order, and human rights. How come you don't take down them crosses and church towers? They are also a threat to secular, Western values.
Minaret is a symbol of political power? Really??? I don't hear about Muslims taking down crosses from churches that stand in Muslim countries for thousands of years. I never heard a Muslim say that crosses should be removed from churches because they are a symbol of an enemy. God, Westerners are such bigots.
I'm intolerant of all fake made up religions, I'd like to see the day when mankind realizes all these beliefs are completely false. Islam isn't compatable with western beliefs or law so we have a right to exclude such things. If I tried to go to Iran or Saudi Arabia and erect a christian church what would happen? exactly
@1salmonala I agree, along with all religions, they are a scourge and theres no evidence of God just scary old books. look how everyone including me gets upset by religion.
Funny how most of the people interviewed looked like foreigners. How do you think they're gonna feel about it? The point is, how do the SWISS PEOPLE feel about it. Because it is the Swiss' country not the Muslims' country. The SWISS make the rules.
REMEMBER THAT RIOT (2009)WHERE THEY BROKE PROPERTIES IN THE STREETS OF SWITERLAND..LIKE THOSE GLASS JUST TO DEMAND SHARIA LAW...DUMB ASS PEOLE CAUSING TROUBLE AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD
A muslim is a follower of a totalitarian ideology that disguises itself as religion, to enjoy tolerance and freedom in societies Islam has seeked to destroy for centuries. Evolved from a small band of desert raiders led by a bloodthirsty eccentrist called Muhammad. It's the only "religion" which makes the taboo of manslaughter relative. While all religions say, "thou shouldst not kill" Islam says, "thou shouldst not kill Muslims and innocents" leaving it to themselves to decide who is innocent.
In the USA, church bells once rang out over towns, announcing time, playing Christian songs, etc. They are banned from most towns now. There's no difference in "Christian noise" and "Muslim noise" affecting those who don't want to hear it.
the swiss have a totally valid reason for banning minarets. the minarets are an excuse for muslims to expand their religion with an imperialistic ideology. The ideology involves sumbitting or being submitted to allah
Minerates have nothing to do with the faith at all. I never knew such levels of ignorance existed.
Please explain to me how making a tower spreads anything. Does putting up a cross on a building expand Christianity? No it simply indicates this is a Christian building.
Its not like people see a cross and go "time to convert to christanity now that I saw that cross!"
Islamic clerics/radical muslims who want these towers built use it as part of their belief that Islam has a right to dominate over other world religions. Look up Walid Shoebat, Wafa Sultan, and Mosab Hassan Yousef. All are former Muslims criticizing islam. Also, you need to know the difference between a cross and a minaret. A cross is just a symbol, while a minaret creates a towering noise for people to pray at the mosque, creating disturbance and represents islamo facism.
1. The clerics have a right to believe in w/e they want, the FACT is, minerates have nothing to do with the faith. Wether or not you or some clerics believe that is irrelevant.
2. Critics = offtopic
3. Cross is just a symbol so is a minaret, in Switzerland not a single minerate was used to call the prayer.
Also represents islamofacism?
"I bear witness there is only one God"
"Come to good deeds"
"Come to prayer"
HOW EVIL AND HORRIBLE AND FACIST LIKE! WHAT SICK PEOPLE HOW DARE THEY!
@iridium40 ur aguement is nor logical, since nobody is trying to build mosque in Vatican. You can only compare mecca with vatican not switzerland. it is a secular country. There are for instance many new churches turkey and bosnia.
Just by what I have seen and heard on You Tube I've come to the certain conclusion that islam is a sham and the most evil fake religion ever devised by Satan himself.
57.5 % voted against the building of minarets,whats the problem here.You had a democratic vote,majority said no,this is democracy at work.Whats all the shit about.Just because the mussies did`nt get there way they now decide to moan n probably blow up all out of proportion the democratically elected ideals of the indigenous populous.
Well done Switzerland,keep up the good work for and on behalf of the rest of europe.
England is totally fucked,muslim nation by 2030,hopefully i`ll be dead by then
The way of islam is against the way of western democracy and western laws. As a muslim you are bound to kill non believers especially if they don't want to convert. No one can claim that Islam is a peaceful religion Islam wants to bring people back to medevil times so they have better control over people. You are using diatribes against western people and at the same time make use of our social benefits and you hide behind our laws yet when you have to obey them well it's against what alla wants
you are the biggest son of bitches in the world. you even clap the hands of wounded people. all the worlkd saw israel is a terorist organiisation not a state. poor you brainwashed!
ive read the quaran and just because someone converts to islam what does that proov?people also convert to other relegions ive seen muslim convert videos i no the muslims love them but if someone is stupid enough to be a christian then they are stupid enough to be a muslim,so thats your best way of prooving islam by showing a convert?well i can proof aliens then, im sure i can find someone who now beleves in alians,it is so arrogant to think if someone doesnt like islam thay nonothing about it
@ikram310 just becuase people dontlikeislam why do you then think thay nonothing about islam?? i know alot about islam and i dont like it and i am not a muslim and i never will be . try and stop me and other readers sterotipeing you as a normal lieing musllims by PROOVINGR That the guy who lead the movement against Minarets embraced islam,PROOV IT
However, their faith is crazy. It just does not belong in a democratic society.
Islam, wants all to convert to convert to their faith, most religions do. They believe that Islam will take over the world.
Ridiculous. They want to change the culture and landscape of all countries they inhabit. They despise the west and its morals. They need to all live in islamic countries. They do not have their own minds.
MOST!!Immigrants and Swiss ,Who Are not Muslims or religious!!All sponsored the BAN ,they Say Minerites Seperate Muslims from Non Muslims!!and Are Symbols of ISLAMIC POWER and Law in the Territory!!,,The Swiss are only Qouting(The TURKISH Primeminister (Recep TAYYIP ERDOGAN,Who Many Times has said "Minerites are our ISLAMIC Contol in the Land ,our BAYONETS!!!!
m00se321@ I totally agree with you but keep calm otherwise you'll play their game.
Just keep asking to those promoting islam in Europe: If diversity is so good, why do people devote so much energy to finding and bonding with people like themselves and want to build their alien buildings?
The effect of multiculturalism is to create separate communities, and till muslims insist on their right to carry on as if they're in their homelands and decline to integrate then they shouldn't complain about being socially excluded on matters that don't suit them. They should re-think their primitive world's wiev and not come here and then cherry-pick--"I'll take those rights, please, but, no thanks, those sacrifices don't look appetizing and if you tell me again I'll call you a racist."
It's really funny that many of you think that having a discriminatory attitude towards Muslims is productive. It's not wise to make 1.5 billion enemies.
What would really be productive is if bridges are built by Muslims and the Western world. Maybe if you clear your hearts of hatred you all might see that.
You don't think most Muslims just want to live in peace like most people? Or we all harbor an intolerant hostility like you and your like (meaning those who carry your fascist beliefs)? Do you think we all have an AK-47 and a van full of C-4 looking for infidels to kill? What justifies this paranoia? We're just people for goodness sake!
@ezzthemc Of course I don't think that MOST Muslims have AK47's or even consider being a terrorist!
But here is the problem. You accuse me of being fascist but Islam is the most fascist religion I have ever seen! the aim of Islam is to replace all other religion and culture with Islamic religion and culture.
Even so called "passive" Muslims will support their brothers. So when idiots like Anjem Chowdry get Muslims all fired up, then YES ALL Muslims are behind Evil Islam!
1) 1.3 billion, 1.5 billion (does it really matter?!) I said it's not wise to make ENEMIES out of Muslims. It's 1/4 of the world. At some point we might push back.
2) lol @ Muzzies!
3) you said "All we need to do is CRUSH the small minority in Europe and leave your shitty, backward Islamic countries to you. "
Well, your comment clearly speaks for itself
You might wish me harm but I wish you well my friend :)))
Actually that is true. They are the minority, however, they make the biggest noise.
In the US, we really don't have a problem with Muslims. The younger generation are too busy partying. There is the odd crazy that radicals can convert, they know who best to approach. For every Muslim, there are thousand more Christians in the US. Oh, and inspite of what Clerics say Islam is not the fastest growing religion, Evangelicals are. They broadcast in the middleeast now.
@Saffron49 Yes I agree, Muslims in Europe are a minority and yet they make so much noise. And in the US they are not so much a problem... YET! But wait... they will be. I'm aware that you have an evangelical problem there, but at least they are not killing people... yet!
@mazilin2 Your a small Country, beutifull as well.I would not want to have minarets every where either.When we picture switzerland from Canada's perspective we see cool scenery,neat tidy places, smart technology,conservative people with tradition.Islam is totaly opposite of that.
@2000boxter Bravo to what ?? silliness preggdism & racism ? will if that u like then congrats ! u r a silly person, a preggdous person, & a racist all at once yoohoo! go celebrate !
@jabri11 My coment was based on the fact that the swiss people stood up and changed something they did not like.Many countries do the same.Its not about being racist it's about oppinion.So please when you call someone a racist make shure he is one.Have a nice day.
@jabri11 The absurditiy of what you have written is mind-blowing. You are from S.Arabia, a country where every religion except Islam is banned. Where practicing any other religion will get you thrown in prison. A country that does not allow non-Muslims to enter Mecca or build churches or temples, and you have the nerve to call the Swiss 'racists' for banning the building of minarets. Un-fxxking-believable. Why are Muslims so stupid?
Well, when it's used it's meant to be hostile. I just thought the word sounds funny. Sounds like something you would name a kitten. Come up with a better word. Also drop the word 'wog'. It just sounds awkward.
@lunafringe10 & also look at WW1 & WW2 & their outcomes & see how European civil righters of today gh strategicly turned an Islamic empire into minor weak units & countries & placed dictators to rule those countries with stupidity & for decades ... only few countries managed to get out of the dark path the west drew for them such as Malaysia & Turkey & few are nowadays trying to over-through their dictators.. dont forget international banks & their depts.. & American made-up wars & so on
there an air of hostility towards islam beginning to grow. very reminiscent of the crusades. its slowly beginning to pop all over europe, it seams people are getting fed up with islam. the swiss have made the first move and i think the rest of europe is beginning to follow their lead.
Paste the below title into the bar for a small slideshow on Public Opinion of the Swiss affair. Not even the moderately controlled press can ignore such groundswells of discontent on the general swaggering takeover of Europe by demanding Muslims and our servile PC Establishment. Minarets are indeed the 'thin end of the wedge'.
ISLAMIFICATION OF SWITZERLAND STALLED BY POPULAR VOTE!
Similarity: Nazi party, Swiss People's Party are Speak German language and almost same culture elected by people of Germany and Swizerland and do the same with Jews and muslims. The greatest AntiSemetic episod in the history by Ban muslim religious place in Swizerland. I do not know if Swiss Govt. planing to systemitically kill all muslims to implemented Geneva convention by starting banning Islamic religious place!!!! The Nazi do not survive, so do others who have antisemitic views to Islam.
The Economist's Democracy Index, the Saudi government is the seventh most authoritarian regime from among the 167 countries rated , also look at the size difference between them
Vatican City area 0.44 km
Saudi Arabia area 2,224,000 km
So who is the Moron ? And also the Pope is elected unlike the Saudi King
This was in response to Promonument . who if you ask me is just a useful idiot
I dought this fool even has read the Koran and Hadiths , because if he had then he would know its a totalitarian political system and not even a religion .
The closet I can come to describing Islam is to equate to Nazism or Communize
you are still the moron. Area has nothing to do with it. those 2 million kilos are all sand. And a country is a country you cant compare land with law. That is idiotic. The poop is elected for life which is no different than dictatorship in china or russia. AND guess who elected/placed the Sauds? oh thats right your countries after colonial period. does it make some sense now? boondock
Well I'm native American and that makes me superior than you since your Canadian.
Anyways, I wasn't blaming everyone else just the colonialist who enslaved nations and continue to do so and perhaps my sympathy came from there in the first place. Since you dont have a rebuttal to my statement you started looking at it as a blame game. Nice rebuttal my fellow native Canadian. If I cant blame people who enslaved me and then put a puppet leader for their gain, then I dont know what to say to you.
ahahaah dude there is no such thing as north american citizen to start with so keep dreaming. Its nice to see Canadians trying make themselves feel better by thinking they are American. You need a passport with an Bald Eagle on it and getting born helps not some Brit passport like stamp on it.
Also keep on running whenever you get fucked in the arse with pure logic and keep sucking your white masters dicks.
look your the moron how about look up the schmuck treaty which voids that jones treaty :)
Either way your not American live with the fact that your Canadian citizen and thus you are inferior than me. I know its really hard for you to comprehend something as simple as that. You just got pwned on so many levels from every statement you made.
Today is Friday. How will the imams and mullahs preach?
Tolerance and education of the reality that 95% of the Swiss populace want their country to look like Switzeralnd: not Istanbul or Bosnia?
OR..........
Hate for the Kuffir and a call for rioting?
I hope that the governments got the word out that there will "Zero Tolerance" for rioters; and that looters will be killed on site! If not, they deserve what they get. If the word was out; the blame is on the religious leaders' heads
Islamic armies have constantly invaded Europe over the last 1000 years. Millions of Europeans died & millions more were enslaved & taken away to other continents as slaves by turks and arabs.
The janissaries were Christian European boys taken from their parents & never seen again to serve the rest of their lives as turkish army conscripts.
Turkish armies enslaved south east europe for 400 years and beseiged Vienna whilst the arabs enslaved Spain.
what about VATICAN it doesnt allow mosques or temples there? Just like saudi is an exception.
The swiss can do what ever they want in their country but dont come and flaunt we got freedom of expression, freedom or religion etcetra etcetra bullshit.
Its ok to make a mockery of the Prophet but it isnt okay for them making the same mockery with judaism and holocaust cause that would put them 5 years in jail. freedom of speech my ass.
You're obviously an idiot. Yes, Switzerland DOES have freedom of religion. This is NOT a ban on Mosques, this is just a ban on minarets. Switzerland simply doesn't want Islam having more and more say in Swiss politics and general daily life. Muslim countries are THE MOST oppressive and hypocritical on the planet. I know it, you know it. Facts are facts.
lol your the idiot here. What does a pillar structure do to change politics? If you cant make a minaret you shouldnt also be allowed to put a cross over a church in the same manner. Singling out one symbol is discrimination idiot. Either take all religious symbols down or not at all. To Swiss people, dont come up and claim freedom of expression and other yadi yadi yada bullshit my behind.
First of all, learn the difference between 'your' & 'you're'. Okay? Churches shouldn't be allowed to have Crosses over them? Where? In Europe? Europe is Christian. Are you trying to tell me Crosses shouldn't be on the top of European Churches? I shall say once again, because you're too stupid to understand the first time; This is NOT a ban on Mosques. Muslims are still free to worship as they have been. Why are you so stupid to not understand this? Shame on your Mother for failing you!
i say to muslims if swiss won't permit minarites then respect it, its there country. Yes, its nice if they allow it and care about their minorties but if they don't then you can live with it or leave.
ednan9. The last time I saw that much of a U turn was the Italians in WW2. What a fuckin bit of class backtracking you`ve done there my outcast friend. I can see the reverse lights from here
I dont see why symbolism of religion is so important ? freedom to believe is freedom flaunting it causes problems.
Switzerland is and established Chrisitan nation im sure the migrants where aware of this when they migrated there ? Switzerland founded by christianity shaped into a great country by Christianity. Again immigration is happening at a rapid rate people are obviously going to be fearfull. with moderate amounts of immigration and integration needs more than 40 years.
"there are thousands of catholic and protestant churches in pakistan and millions of pakistani chrisitains. the most sacred temples of the sikh religion are also in pakistan"...Thousands?..more like hundreds. And that's in a country of 130 million people.Christianity is virtually unseen in public life in Pakistan. Secondly,Sikhs were forced to leave what is now Pakistan in 1947 along with Hindus. The key issue here is ,what are minarets used for?..the answer is a call to islamic prayer.
a lot of posters here are ill informed. there are thousands of catholic and protestant churches in pakistan and millions of pakistani chrisitains. the most sacred temples of the sikh religion are also in pakistan in any case 2 wrongs dont make a right. it is about fairness. if u are a citizen u shud have equal rights. this is bullying and im not surprisd. i am muslim and both my grandads were in the british army against hitler when swiss stood 'neutral'. many swiss are german.
4:07 WOW what a fucking retard she is "Christians are allowed to wear crosses" i mean seriously this woman provokes and insults! You'are in a Christian country you dumb whore!
Amnesty International said the vote violated freedom of religion and would probably be overturned by the Swiss supreme court or the European Court of Human Rights.
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i think in pakistan yjere are no christians almost. but 400.000 muslims in switzerland who are doing the worst jobs that swiss doesnt want to do. minaret is not a political sign. minaret is very important part of mosque.
Whoa! Steady on there. 1. I`m half Swiss. I regularly visit there. The `worst jobs` as you put it pay approx £2300 a month. 2. WHY can`t Swiss people keep THEIR country the way THEY like it? Its their country. Its not a muslim country and they don`t want it to be. Whats the problem?
you are wrong. Pakistan has many christians, especially in punjab. Look up st patricks cathedral in Karachi, one of the oldest chrusches in subcontinent
LAHORE (The UK Catholic Herald) - Eight Pakistani Christians were killed, 50 homes destroyed and two churches burned when a rampaging mob of up to 3,000 Muslims tore through the town of Gojra, in eastern Pakistan, last Saturday.
The victims, who included two young children, were either burned alive or shot.
@TheLagunaSunrise - indeed it happens and its really sad bit these incidence are not specific to christians, the mob takes advantage of the situation and it happens mostly of the uneducate class. I know and you knwo that muslims are also killed somewhere in this world and recently a lot of them were killed in iraq
Pakistani Muslims would never allow countless Churches to be built in Pakistan. Switzerland simply does not want Islam to spread in THEIR country. They have a right. I think more European countries will start to take a stronger stance on Islam now.
I agree with you....switzerland has a right to choose if they want build mosques or not, just like muslims countries have a right that not to allow churches - however, i admire countries that take care of their minorties and treat them well - that just me - and take it for whatever its worth
@cupcakeflake - you stupid man, you talk without knowledge. I am not here to defend islam but I was raised in pakistan in a muslim family and went to catholic school. We had a church at our school, though we never went to church, we sometimes use to look at after it. There are many churches in pakistan. Get to know it and don't listen to your main stream media
Oh stupid eh? The Church of Pakistan has been unable to build because irate Muslims keep tearing down foundation stones, the most recent incident being the defacement of an inaugural marker unveiled by Archbishop Robert Runcie of Canterbury in a spring 1990 visit.
Throughout history Christian church killed many times more Europeans than Muslims did. Yet crosses and bell towers are not a symbol of oppression and backwardness? How is cross not a symbol of an entity that is alien to democracy and freedom? It was the church that most staunchly opposed any progress and enlightenment for centuries. And least Muslims brought you some scientific discoveries. What did the Church bring you other than Inquisition and witch hunts? Some wine and crackers on Sundays?
Uzbekimage 4 weeks ago
Haven't enough people in Europe died fighting against backward, oppressive power of Christian church to establish an enlightened, democratic, pluralistic society? And them churches still dare to put crosses on their roofs and ring bells. It's an outrage I tell you. Those crosses are eye sores. Every time I see them I think of Galileo, Giordano Bruno, Jan Huss, and many many others. Take them down, be consistent.
Uzbekimage 4 weeks ago
Hey Swiss people. How come you don't see crosses on church roofs and church bell towers as symbols of church trying to destroy your secular way of life? Do you know what would happen if church comes to power in Switzerland? It will be good bye democracy, secular order, and human rights. How come you don't take down them crosses and church towers? They are also a threat to secular, Western values.
Uzbekimage 4 weeks ago
Minaret is a symbol of political power? Really??? I don't hear about Muslims taking down crosses from churches that stand in Muslim countries for thousands of years. I never heard a Muslim say that crosses should be removed from churches because they are a symbol of an enemy. God, Westerners are such bigots.
Uzbekimage 4 weeks ago
I'm intolerant of all fake made up religions, I'd like to see the day when mankind realizes all these beliefs are completely false. Islam isn't compatable with western beliefs or law so we have a right to exclude such things. If I tried to go to Iran or Saudi Arabia and erect a christian church what would happen? exactly
MrROTD 1 month ago
Maybe Catholics should be banned, look at the Inquisition... over 10,000,000 dead, and the greatest killed by them, Joan of Arch...
1salmonala 4 months ago
@1salmonala I agree, along with all religions, they are a scourge and theres no evidence of God just scary old books. look how everyone including me gets upset by religion.
MrROTD 1 month ago
Would islam allow girls wearing tiny bikinis in a Muslim country?
What if someone wants to open a sex shop in a Muslim country?
Down with religion!!!
wpoulin 5 months ago
HAHAHAHA! Your shit got banned!
maugustyniak 5 months ago
Funny how most of the people interviewed looked like foreigners. How do you think they're gonna feel about it? The point is, how do the SWISS PEOPLE feel about it. Because it is the Swiss' country not the Muslims' country. The SWISS make the rules.
Schredder222 9 months ago
Love it or leave Switzerland
2339dgt 11 months ago
Those media are just such hypocrites... while most citizens in europe show support for the voting result.
Go to islamic countries and have a look. In Switzerland muslims are treated better than any christians in any islamic country.
Muslims can practice their religion as they always did.
Vickzq 1 year ago
REMEMBER THAT RIOT (2009)WHERE THEY BROKE PROPERTIES IN THE STREETS OF SWITERLAND..LIKE THOSE GLASS JUST TO DEMAND SHARIA LAW...DUMB ASS PEOLE CAUSING TROUBLE AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD
carameloxx 1 year ago
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A muslim is a follower of a totalitarian ideology that disguises itself as religion, to enjoy tolerance and freedom in societies Islam has seeked to destroy for centuries. Evolved from a small band of desert raiders led by a bloodthirsty eccentrist called Muhammad. It's the only "religion" which makes the taboo of manslaughter relative. While all religions say, "thou shouldst not kill" Islam says, "thou shouldst not kill Muslims and innocents" leaving it to themselves to decide who is innocent.
TheRockZH 1 year ago
In the USA, church bells once rang out over towns, announcing time, playing Christian songs, etc. They are banned from most towns now. There's no difference in "Christian noise" and "Muslim noise" affecting those who don't want to hear it.
vechorik 1 year ago
The sooner Islam is a thing of the past the better.
teufeldritch 1 year ago
muzlims are seen as vermin, everywhere they infest.
muhammad the lunatic inventor of izlam, was a child-raping murderer.
- he also lied, robbed, raped, pillaged, committed adultry, - you name it, the bastard did it...
zakirnaikmuzzybaboon 1 year ago 10
@zakirnaikmuzzybaboon "was a child-raping murderer.
- he also lied, robbed, raped, pillaged, committed adultry, - you name it, the bastard did it..."
-Nice, there wasnt a single correct/truthful thing in your post. Its amazing what liars some of you people are.
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
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poor, poor muzlims,-
- The mosques are being shut down,
- the minarets are being banned
- the stupid burkhas are being banned,
- soon it will be the stupid cult of izlam that is banned
ROFL@muzlims
zakirnaikmuzzybaboon 1 year ago 20
the swiss have a totally valid reason for banning minarets. the minarets are an excuse for muslims to expand their religion with an imperialistic ideology. The ideology involves sumbitting or being submitted to allah
ninjastealth86 1 year ago
@ninjastealth86
Minerates have nothing to do with the faith at all. I never knew such levels of ignorance existed.
Please explain to me how making a tower spreads anything. Does putting up a cross on a building expand Christianity? No it simply indicates this is a Christian building.
Its not like people see a cross and go "time to convert to christanity now that I saw that cross!"
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
Islamic clerics/radical muslims who want these towers built use it as part of their belief that Islam has a right to dominate over other world religions. Look up Walid Shoebat, Wafa Sultan, and Mosab Hassan Yousef. All are former Muslims criticizing islam. Also, you need to know the difference between a cross and a minaret. A cross is just a symbol, while a minaret creates a towering noise for people to pray at the mosque, creating disturbance and represents islamo facism.
ninjastealth86 1 year ago
and this is to respond to ACEDcomputer's question
ninjastealth86 1 year ago
@ninjasteal
1. The clerics have a right to believe in w/e they want, the FACT is, minerates have nothing to do with the faith. Wether or not you or some clerics believe that is irrelevant.
2. Critics = offtopic
3. Cross is just a symbol so is a minaret, in Switzerland not a single minerate was used to call the prayer.
Also represents islamofacism?
"I bear witness there is only one God"
"Come to good deeds"
"Come to prayer"
HOW EVIL AND HORRIBLE AND FACIST LIKE! WHAT SICK PEOPLE HOW DARE THEY!
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
No. You can only compare juridical systems with jurical systems.
No minarets in the vatican...no steeples in mecca. Right
No legal rights for other religions but islam in muslim countries...(right?)
No legal rights for muslims in democratic counties. Are you alright with that?
Tell us, what's wrong with it?
stepeannan 1 year ago
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@stepeannan
"No legal rights for other religions but islam in muslim countries...(right?)"
-Bullshit. You have every right to set up churches in Muslim countries and even play the bells. Examples: Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Morocco.
"No legal rights for muslims in democratic counties. Are you alright with that?"
-Assuming your previous statement is correct, why would you sink to the level of dictators?
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
can we build christian church in saudi arabia,jeddah or near the mecca?????
iridium40 1 year ago
@iridium40 ur aguement is nor logical, since nobody is trying to build mosque in Vatican. You can only compare mecca with vatican not switzerland. it is a secular country. There are for instance many new churches turkey and bosnia.
greywolve1453 1 year ago
@iridium40
You can build churches everywere except near Mecca. Swiss isnt the vatacian, there is no religious significance to switzerland.
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
Just by what I have seen and heard on You Tube I've come to the certain conclusion that islam is a sham and the most evil fake religion ever devised by Satan himself.
pmoyer50 1 year ago
57.5 % voted against the building of minarets,whats the problem here.You had a democratic vote,majority said no,this is democracy at work.Whats all the shit about.Just because the mussies did`nt get there way they now decide to moan n probably blow up all out of proportion the democratically elected ideals of the indigenous populous.
Well done Switzerland,keep up the good work for and on behalf of the rest of europe.
England is totally fucked,muslim nation by 2030,hopefully i`ll be dead by then
naybobdenod 1 year ago
The way of islam is against the way of western democracy and western laws. As a muslim you are bound to kill non believers especially if they don't want to convert. No one can claim that Islam is a peaceful religion Islam wants to bring people back to medevil times so they have better control over people. You are using diatribes against western people and at the same time make use of our social benefits and you hide behind our laws yet when you have to obey them well it's against what alla wants
mazilin2 1 year ago
@mazilin2
". As a muslim you are bound to kill non believers especially if they don't want to convert."
-Liar
" Islam is a peaceful religion "
-It is.
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
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@ACEDcomputers you are deluded
mazilin2 1 year ago
zakirnaikmuzzybaboon 1 year ago 2
@zakirnaikmuzzybaboon
you are the biggest son of bitches in the world. you even clap the hands of wounded people. all the worlkd saw israel is a terorist organiisation not a state. poor you brainwashed!
greywolve1453 1 year ago
@zakirnaikmuzzybaboon EXACTLY
mazilin2 1 year ago
ive read the quaran and just because someone converts to islam what does that proov?people also convert to other relegions ive seen muslim convert videos i no the muslims love them but if someone is stupid enough to be a christian then they are stupid enough to be a muslim,so thats your best way of prooving islam by showing a convert?well i can proof aliens then, im sure i can find someone who now beleves in alians,it is so arrogant to think if someone doesnt like islam thay nonothing about it
MrMorriz1 1 year ago
that woman sayd "minaretts appeal to be agressiv symbols..." and didn`t say "...are agressiv symbols...?
mattermanify 1 year ago
@ikram310 just becuase people dontlikeislam why do you then think thay nonothing about islam?? i know alot about islam and i dont like it and i am not a muslim and i never will be . try and stop me and other readers sterotipeing you as a normal lieing musllims by PROOVINGR That the guy who lead the movement against Minarets embraced islam,PROOV IT
salaam
MrMorriz1 1 year ago
I have been drinking wine and eating Pork!
I love wine and I love Pork :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Musims the humans are just like the rest.
However, their faith is crazy. It just does not belong in a democratic society.
Islam, wants all to convert to convert to their faith, most religions do. They believe that Islam will take over the world.
Ridiculous. They want to change the culture and landscape of all countries they inhabit. They despise the west and its morals. They need to all live in islamic countries. They do not have their own minds.
Saffron49 1 year ago
@Saffron49 Totally agree, Muslims are just like anyone else but they have been brainwashed with a rather nasty disease called Islam.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
MOST!!Immigrants and Swiss ,Who Are not Muslims or religious!!All sponsored the BAN ,they Say Minerites Seperate Muslims from Non Muslims!!and Are Symbols of ISLAMIC POWER and Law in the Territory!!,,The Swiss are only Qouting(The TURKISH Primeminister (Recep TAYYIP ERDOGAN,Who Many Times has said "Minerites are our ISLAMIC Contol in the Land ,our BAYONETS!!!!
m00se321 1 year ago
m00se321@ I totally agree with you but keep calm otherwise you'll play their game.
Just keep asking to those promoting islam in Europe: If diversity is so good, why do people devote so much energy to finding and bonding with people like themselves and want to build their alien buildings?
stepeannan 1 year ago
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5% of Switzerland are Muslims and they have 4 Minarets in the whole country only
15% of Egyptians are Christians and there are 14 types of churches in Egypt which are 10,000's of them
and funny thing Westerns says we don't understand freedom of speech..well they are right because i don't understand that freedom
hesha3000 2 years ago
I`d like to keep my hands . No thanks to islam . Btw , Muslims have the right to just leave the country
Iwillgetyou2 2 years ago
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The effect of multiculturalism is to create separate communities, and till muslims insist on their right to carry on as if they're in their homelands and decline to integrate then they shouldn't complain about being socially excluded on matters that don't suit them. They should re-think their primitive world's wiev and not come here and then cherry-pick--"I'll take those rights, please, but, no thanks, those sacrifices don't look appetizing and if you tell me again I'll call you a racist."
stepeannan 2 years ago
It's really funny that many of you think that having a discriminatory attitude towards Muslims is productive. It's not wise to make 1.5 billion enemies.
What would really be productive is if bridges are built by Muslims and the Western world. Maybe if you clear your hearts of hatred you all might see that.
ezzthemc 2 years ago
@ezzthemc 1 billion of those are illiterates from the countryside in Pakistan and bush in Africa.
tbg0o 2 years ago
@ezzthemc Islam is incompatible with democratic tolerant European society!
No bridges can be built with a death cult!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
You don't think most Muslims just want to live in peace like most people? Or we all harbor an intolerant hostility like you and your like (meaning those who carry your fascist beliefs)? Do you think we all have an AK-47 and a van full of C-4 looking for infidels to kill? What justifies this paranoia? We're just people for goodness sake!
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc Of course I don't think that MOST Muslims have AK47's or even consider being a terrorist!
But here is the problem. You accuse me of being fascist but Islam is the most fascist religion I have ever seen! the aim of Islam is to replace all other religion and culture with Islamic religion and culture.
Even so called "passive" Muslims will support their brothers. So when idiots like Anjem Chowdry get Muslims all fired up, then YES ALL Muslims are behind Evil Islam!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
What kind of paranoid schizophrenic fantasy are you living?
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc I think it's you who live in a schitzo world :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Oooh. Touche!
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc By the way, is your point that pissing of 1.5Billion people is a bad idea, some kind of threat?
May I remind you that:-
1) It's more like 1.3 billion and many are leaving Islam all time.
2) There are billions more Christians, Jews, Hindu, Atheists and other religions!
3) Muzzies are a small minority in Europe, (with a big fucking voice)
All we need to do is CRUSH the small minority in Europe and leave your shitty, backward Islamic countries to you :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
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Okay, three points.
1) 1.3 billion, 1.5 billion (does it really matter?!) I said it's not wise to make ENEMIES out of Muslims. It's 1/4 of the world. At some point we might push back.
2) lol @ Muzzies!
3) you said "All we need to do is CRUSH the small minority in Europe and leave your shitty, backward Islamic countries to you. "
Well, your comment clearly speaks for itself
You might wish me harm but I wish you well my friend :)))
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx
Actually that is true. They are the minority, however, they make the biggest noise.
In the US, we really don't have a problem with Muslims. The younger generation are too busy partying. There is the odd crazy that radicals can convert, they know who best to approach. For every Muslim, there are thousand more Christians in the US. Oh, and inspite of what Clerics say Islam is not the fastest growing religion, Evangelicals are. They broadcast in the middleeast now.
Saffron49 1 year ago
@Saffron49 Yes I agree, Muslims in Europe are a minority and yet they make so much noise. And in the US they are not so much a problem... YET! But wait... they will be. I'm aware that you have an evangelical problem there, but at least they are not killing people... yet!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
The Muslims are running scared in Switzerland ... GOOD.
Come on Muslim desert dogs. Just blow up one thing in Switzerland .... PLEASE ..
Thats all the excuse needed to sweep the lot of you out of all Western democratic countries.
nightowl8936 2 years ago 3
they are not against muslims lol
sofianbelhedi 2 years ago
Been to Switzerland loved it. Love it more now.
barkingbasher 2 years ago 4
because you are KHAZARA!
kzd444 2 years ago
Bravo to the Swiss people....
2000boxter 2 years ago 26
@2000boxter you have no idea how europe crossed us for that one
mazilin2 1 year ago
@mazilin2 Your a small Country, beutifull as well.I would not want to have minarets every where either.When we picture switzerland from Canada's perspective we see cool scenery,neat tidy places, smart technology,conservative people with tradition.Islam is totaly opposite of that.
2000boxter 1 year ago
@2000boxter
No it isnt you ignoramous. You wouldnt know what Islam is if it hit you in the face.
ACEDcomputers 1 year ago
@ACEDcomputers Your right I don't know,and don't care either..
2000boxter 1 year ago
@2000boxter Bravo to what ?? silliness preggdism & racism ? will if that u like then congrats ! u r a silly person, a preggdous person, & a racist all at once yoohoo! go celebrate !
jabri11 1 year ago
@jabri11 My coment was based on the fact that the swiss people stood up and changed something they did not like.Many countries do the same.Its not about being racist it's about oppinion.So please when you call someone a racist make shure he is one.Have a nice day.
2000boxter 1 year ago
@jabri11 The absurditiy of what you have written is mind-blowing. You are from S.Arabia, a country where every religion except Islam is banned. Where practicing any other religion will get you thrown in prison. A country that does not allow non-Muslims to enter Mecca or build churches or temples, and you have the nerve to call the Swiss 'racists' for banning the building of minarets. Un-fxxking-believable. Why are Muslims so stupid?
TheFestivelights 4 months ago
"We are not against Muslims"
Of course not. You just don't want Muslims to have the same rights as you.
ezzthemc 2 years ago
"You just don't want Muslims to have the same rights as you."
Yeah, well, since when do you see these desert rat fuck sons of bitches standing up for anyone else's rights.
These people are seriously playing with fire if they want to cause shit in Switzerland ... I'm so very glad the Swiss did this vote.
They are demonstrating Western democracy, and bravery by pushing back against this cancerous religion.
God help the Islamics if they try to blow anything up in Switzerland!!
nightowl8936 2 years ago 2
bravo la suisse! i hope that in France they will do something too
1jamiroquai 2 years ago 4
Do they ever laugh? Do they have comedy in Islamic countries? You never see them laugh. They need a good drink and a joint.
Saffron49 2 years ago 3
No, we don't laugh. It's against our religion.
Oh, I bet you fell for that one! lol. What a dumb question!
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc Actually that's not funny, most Muslims don't have a sense of humor... when I tell Muzzie joked ;)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Again with the 'Muzzies'! Is that supposed to be some kind of slur? Sounds cute.
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc Actually I agree, I don't know why Muslims get offended by being called "Muzzie", it sounds cute.
I never get offended by anything I get called, it never bothers me :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Well, when it's used it's meant to be hostile. I just thought the word sounds funny. Sounds like something you would name a kitten. Come up with a better word. Also drop the word 'wog'. It just sounds awkward.
ezzthemc 1 year ago
@ezzthemc Indeed, actually "WOG" is polite, it means Western Oriental Gentleman!
Just remember to kill all Muslims and everything will be fine :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Dont just ban mirarettes ban Islam.
Saudi Arabia permits no churches at all there, In Egypt Christians are attacked daily yet the govt there pretends it doesn't exist!
No tolerance for intolerance, ban Islam and deport Muslims, send these cockroaches back
hoplite1766 2 years ago 2
one only has to look at islamic countries, and no more comments are needed on their religion, lol
lunafringe10 2 years ago 18
@lunafringe10 & also look at WW1 & WW2 & their outcomes & see how European civil righters of today gh strategicly turned an Islamic empire into minor weak units & countries & placed dictators to rule those countries with stupidity & for decades ... only few countries managed to get out of the dark path the west drew for them such as Malaysia & Turkey & few are nowadays trying to over-through their dictators.. dont forget international banks & their depts.. & American made-up wars & so on
jabri11 1 year ago
@lunafringe10 Debating about Islam is pointless in YouTube comments, but can we get a "lol" corollary to Godwin's Law, please? It's simply stupid!
25GorillaPirates 1 year ago
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there an air of hostility towards islam beginning to grow. very reminiscent of the crusades. its slowly beginning to pop all over europe, it seams people are getting fed up with islam. the swiss have made the first move and i think the rest of europe is beginning to follow their lead.
rickru1 2 years ago
well done to the swiss !!!! the only country in europe with the balls to stand up to these muslims !!!!!!
TheFulcherman 2 years ago 6
@TheFulcherman thank you
BigLazyDog88 2 years ago
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I highly encourage muslims to take advantage
of one other great Western freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE.
We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here.
So accept the country YOU accepted'
Take It Or Leave It.
06simit 2 years ago
nuke mecca
MrLastCrusader 2 years ago 2
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Paste the below title into the bar for a small slideshow on Public Opinion of the Swiss affair. Not even the moderately controlled press can ignore such groundswells of discontent on the general swaggering takeover of Europe by demanding Muslims and our servile PC Establishment. Minarets are indeed the 'thin end of the wedge'.
ISLAMIFICATION OF SWITZERLAND STALLED BY POPULAR VOTE!
TheDustpile 2 years ago
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Similarity: Nazi party, Swiss People's Party are Speak German language and almost same culture elected by people of Germany and Swizerland and do the same with Jews and muslims. The greatest AntiSemetic episod in the history by Ban muslim religious place in Swizerland. I do not know if Swiss Govt. planing to systemitically kill all muslims to implemented Geneva convention by starting banning Islamic religious place!!!! The Nazi do not survive, so do others who have antisemitic views to Islam.
MonsterIsrael 2 years ago
talk about equality huh? muslims? what about saudi arabia wur Christianity is banned. double standard!
1Christianity 2 years ago
you are a fucking moron saudi is an exception just like vatican
promonument 2 years ago
The Economist's Democracy Index, the Saudi government is the seventh most authoritarian regime from among the 167 countries rated , also look at the size difference between them
Vatican City area 0.44 km
Saudi Arabia area 2,224,000 km
So who is the Moron ? And also the Pope is elected unlike the Saudi King
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago 5
This was in response to Promonument . who if you ask me is just a useful idiot
I dought this fool even has read the Koran and Hadiths , because if he had then he would know its a totalitarian political system and not even a religion .
The closet I can come to describing Islam is to equate to Nazism or Communize
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago 3
you are still the moron. Area has nothing to do with it. those 2 million kilos are all sand. And a country is a country you cant compare land with law. That is idiotic. The poop is elected for life which is no different than dictatorship in china or russia. AND guess who elected/placed the Sauds? oh thats right your countries after colonial period. does it make some sense now? boondock
promonument 2 years ago
Oh yes blame everyone else , this is the cry of the Muslims today .
But just to let you know im not Christian or Jewish
And Canada the place I live in was not a colonial power , what will you try next ?Oh and im also Native :)
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago 4
Well I'm native American and that makes me superior than you since your Canadian.
Anyways, I wasn't blaming everyone else just the colonialist who enslaved nations and continue to do so and perhaps my sympathy came from there in the first place. Since you dont have a rebuttal to my statement you started looking at it as a blame game. Nice rebuttal my fellow native Canadian. If I cant blame people who enslaved me and then put a puppet leader for their gain, then I dont know what to say to you.
promonument 2 years ago
If you were really Native like you say , then you would know Natives are North American Citizens
Take youre lies someplace else .
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago
ahahaah dude there is no such thing as north american citizen to start with so keep dreaming. Its nice to see Canadians trying make themselves feel better by thinking they are American. You need a passport with an Bald Eagle on it and getting born helps not some Brit passport like stamp on it.
Also keep on running whenever you get fucked in the arse with pure logic and keep sucking your white masters dicks.
promonument 2 years ago
Potato look up the Jones Treaty. Moron .
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago
look your the moron how about look up the schmuck treaty which voids that jones treaty :)
Either way your not American live with the fact that your Canadian citizen and thus you are inferior than me. I know its really hard for you to comprehend something as simple as that. You just got pwned on so many levels from every statement you made.
promonument 2 years ago
deport filthy muslim scroungers
filthmuslim 2 years ago
Today is Friday. How will the imams and mullahs preach?
Tolerance and education of the reality that 95% of the Swiss populace want their country to look like Switzeralnd: not Istanbul or Bosnia?
OR..........
Hate for the Kuffir and a call for rioting?
I hope that the governments got the word out that there will "Zero Tolerance" for rioters; and that looters will be killed on site! If not, they deserve what they get. If the word was out; the blame is on the religious leaders' heads
BoudiccaBlanc 2 years ago
looks like people are getting fed up with islam.
this will only spread throughout europe.
rickru1 2 years ago
fuck em if they cant take a racist joke. sand in their vaginas no doubt.
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
Islamic armies have constantly invaded Europe over the last 1000 years. Millions of Europeans died & millions more were enslaved & taken away to other continents as slaves by turks and arabs.
The janissaries were Christian European boys taken from their parents & never seen again to serve the rest of their lives as turkish army conscripts.
Turkish armies enslaved south east europe for 400 years and beseiged Vienna whilst the arabs enslaved Spain.
Europeans are entitled to reject islam!
Achilles1389 2 years ago 5
yeah Turks fucked the australian ANZAC dogs who tried to invade Turkey also. Die son of bitch!
kzd444 2 years ago
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cupcakeflake 2 years ago
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cupcakeflake 2 years ago
Accept Swiss democracy or LEAVE!!!!!
shaioliver 2 years ago 5
what about VATICAN it doesnt allow mosques or temples there? Just like saudi is an exception.
The swiss can do what ever they want in their country but dont come and flaunt we got freedom of expression, freedom or religion etcetra etcetra bullshit.
Its ok to make a mockery of the Prophet but it isnt okay for them making the same mockery with judaism and holocaust cause that would put them 5 years in jail. freedom of speech my ass.
promonument 2 years ago
well no ones asking to build a church in Mecca lol,and yes ur not banned from cayying qurans to the vatican.
shaioliver 2 years ago 2
You're obviously an idiot. Yes, Switzerland DOES have freedom of religion. This is NOT a ban on Mosques, this is just a ban on minarets. Switzerland simply doesn't want Islam having more and more say in Swiss politics and general daily life. Muslim countries are THE MOST oppressive and hypocritical on the planet. I know it, you know it. Facts are facts.
TheLagunaSunrise 2 years ago
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lol your the idiot here. What does a pillar structure do to change politics? If you cant make a minaret you shouldnt also be allowed to put a cross over a church in the same manner. Singling out one symbol is discrimination idiot. Either take all religious symbols down or not at all. To Swiss people, dont come up and claim freedom of expression and other yadi yadi yada bullshit my behind.
promonument 2 years ago
First of all, learn the difference between 'your' & 'you're'. Okay? Churches shouldn't be allowed to have Crosses over them? Where? In Europe? Europe is Christian. Are you trying to tell me Crosses shouldn't be on the top of European Churches? I shall say once again, because you're too stupid to understand the first time; This is NOT a ban on Mosques. Muslims are still free to worship as they have been. Why are you so stupid to not understand this? Shame on your Mother for failing you!
TheLagunaSunrise 2 years ago
i say to muslims if swiss won't permit minarites then respect it, its there country. Yes, its nice if they allow it and care about their minorties but if they don't then you can live with it or leave.
ednan9 2 years ago
ednan9. The last time I saw that much of a U turn was the Italians in WW2. What a fuckin bit of class backtracking you`ve done there my outcast friend. I can see the reverse lights from here
cupcakeflake 2 years ago
I dont see why symbolism of religion is so important ? freedom to believe is freedom flaunting it causes problems.
Switzerland is and established Chrisitan nation im sure the migrants where aware of this when they migrated there ? Switzerland founded by christianity shaped into a great country by Christianity. Again immigration is happening at a rapid rate people are obviously going to be fearfull. with moderate amounts of immigration and integration needs more than 40 years.
Anglosurman 2 years ago 2
"there are thousands of catholic and protestant churches in pakistan and millions of pakistani chrisitains. the most sacred temples of the sikh religion are also in pakistan"...Thousands?..more like hundreds. And that's in a country of 130 million people.Christianity is virtually unseen in public life in Pakistan. Secondly,Sikhs were forced to leave what is now Pakistan in 1947 along with Hindus. The key issue here is ,what are minarets used for?..the answer is a call to islamic prayer.
mooneepondskid 2 years ago
well first of all its four minarettes and not two (so much for "good" journalism)
and its about muslims actually beating and killing people all over europe
churches get burned down and nuns are being killed...why does media not report about that!
louis1x 2 years ago 2
why the fuck they are focusing on Ahmydiya they are not muslims, i betta say they are fucking traitors.i hate them
freakydevill 2 years ago
IF your swiss the drinks are on me.
dicks5001 2 years ago 2
a lot of posters here are ill informed. there are thousands of catholic and protestant churches in pakistan and millions of pakistani chrisitains. the most sacred temples of the sikh religion are also in pakistan in any case 2 wrongs dont make a right. it is about fairness. if u are a citizen u shud have equal rights. this is bullying and im not surprisd. i am muslim and both my grandads were in the british army against hitler when swiss stood 'neutral'. many swiss are german.
sciencewasrobbed 2 years ago
4:07 WOW what a fucking retard she is "Christians are allowed to wear crosses" i mean seriously this woman provokes and insults! You'are in a Christian country you dumb whore!
Roflmfaoftw 2 years ago 2
Minarets are Missiles..... be aware of that!!
jeesuschrist1 2 years ago
ISlam = Terror
Muhammed = Terrorist Pedophile
Muslims = INBREDS who shag their cousins
Quran = 1-Ply Toilet Paper
worthalook2009 2 years ago 4
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Amnesty International said the vote violated freedom of religion and would probably be overturned by the Swiss supreme court or the European Court of Human Rights.
GlobalSailor101 2 years ago
where the fuck were amnesty international when the saudis beheaded a person on suspicion of witchcraft????
writing strong letters??
ArmorDinnerJacket 2 years ago
Fuck their call to prayer. You wouldn`t get away with building a church in Pakistan and expecting it to work. Muslims? Nobody fucking wants them.
cupcakeflake 2 years ago 5
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i think in pakistan yjere are no christians almost. but 400.000 muslims in switzerland who are doing the worst jobs that swiss doesnt want to do. minaret is not a political sign. minaret is very important part of mosque.
kzd444 2 years ago
Whoa! Steady on there. 1. I`m half Swiss. I regularly visit there. The `worst jobs` as you put it pay approx £2300 a month. 2. WHY can`t Swiss people keep THEIR country the way THEY like it? Its their country. Its not a muslim country and they don`t want it to be. Whats the problem?
cupcakeflake 2 years ago 5
you are wrong. Pakistan has many christians, especially in punjab. Look up st patricks cathedral in Karachi, one of the oldest chrusches in subcontinent
ednan9 2 years ago
LAHORE (The UK Catholic Herald) - Eight Pakistani Christians were killed, 50 homes destroyed and two churches burned when a rampaging mob of up to 3,000 Muslims tore through the town of Gojra, in eastern Pakistan, last Saturday.
The victims, who included two young children, were either burned alive or shot.
TheLagunaSunrise 2 years ago 2
@TheLagunaSunrise - indeed it happens and its really sad bit these incidence are not specific to christians, the mob takes advantage of the situation and it happens mostly of the uneducate class. I know and you knwo that muslims are also killed somewhere in this world and recently a lot of them were killed in iraq
ednan9 2 years ago
Pakistani Muslims would never allow countless Churches to be built in Pakistan. Switzerland simply does not want Islam to spread in THEIR country. They have a right. I think more European countries will start to take a stronger stance on Islam now.
TheLagunaSunrise 2 years ago 2
I agree with you....switzerland has a right to choose if they want build mosques or not, just like muslims countries have a right that not to allow churches - however, i admire countries that take care of their minorties and treat them well - that just me - and take it for whatever its worth
ednan9 2 years ago
Hey come on! Muslims are peaceful and tolerant. Etc etc.
Shower of hypocrite bastards is what they are. Name ONE European country where they`re welcomed by the average man on the street? Thought so.
cupcakeflake 2 years ago
@cupcakeflake - you stupid man, you talk without knowledge. I am not here to defend islam but I was raised in pakistan in a muslim family and went to catholic school. We had a church at our school, though we never went to church, we sometimes use to look at after it. There are many churches in pakistan. Get to know it and don't listen to your main stream media
ednan9 2 years ago
Oh stupid eh? The Church of Pakistan has been unable to build because irate Muslims keep tearing down foundation stones, the most recent incident being the defacement of an inaugural marker unveiled by Archbishop Robert Runcie of Canterbury in a spring 1990 visit.
cupcakeflake 2 years ago
Good on the Swiss. Muslims are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
TheLagunaSunrise 2 years ago 8
some are but not all
ednan9 2 years ago
the vote was 57.5 for the ban.
TheCaptainLulz 2 years ago
Swiss will fight to protect their laws. If the vote went the other way then build'em but they lost so stop the f-word crying about it.
jethromayham 2 years ago
what do you mean man? i didnt get you sorry.
kzd444 2 years ago
I mean let the Muslims build the minarets.
jethromayham 2 years ago