Behind Nicolas Sarcozy 's Burqa, France Burka Ban, Islam Answers Hijab الحجاب

[sameerraja999]

Oh my Muslims Sisters in France! Use "Surgical Mask" instead of veil (Hijab) if you are forced to not to use veil; and thus punch on SARKOZI's Evil Face.

[KANDARA44]

Yes Nicolas Sarcozy need a woman like he wife (taking naked pictures)

[MeitanteiHiryuu]

i am honestly soooo glad i have finally found a channel to see it from your point of view and not only the western point of view... here in norway we're is discussing banning the hijab in school, something ive always found to be a ridiculous thing to do.

by the way, i don't know arabian; what's that last thing the guy in the video says (10:49) ?

[islamophobia4dummies]

@MeitanteiHiryuu

In Arabic, he said "Peace be upon you, and God's Mercy"

[MeitanteiHiryuu]

@islamophobia4dummies thank you :)

[AdorIslam]

Sarcozy is a man who married to a high class prostitute and what else can he say for the Muslims women? He sleep with some other women and while his wife sleep with some other men and this is the truth.

[bloodandwinearered]

@AdorIslam Why is who Sarcozy marries any business of yours? He doesn't complain about your wife. 

[jazzflea]

Michael is hardly a good example! but there is one thing for sure burka or no burka muslims have no place in france nor anywhere else in europe, america, australia, etc. if they lived amongst their own kind somewhere in the middle east or north africa we would not have this discussion. they will never except us and we will never except them. find another planet perhaps.

[Kite208]

@ 01:22

Yes, M. Jackson has never accused of holding himself and his children as "prisoners behind a screen".

However, do you know what he has been accused of? A FREAK!!! that's right a freak.

M. Jackson is wildly known from his freaky behaviors (i.e. cover his, and his children, faces) and I can't believe you use a man like him to defend your political view of the Burqa.

Unless if your telling that Muslim women are freaks like M. Jackson? :)

P.S.

I am Muslim

[NielsShoe]

Women being forced to cover their face to please an extreamist muslim is not freedom it is agaisnt her rights.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@NielsShoe

Can't you see the women in the video PROTESTING ?

How can you call that "forced" ?

It is a pity to see the widespread shedding of not only human values (such as freedom, tolerance, etc) but also of rational thinking and correct resoning.

[bettermaxim]

Finally a country that stands up for all this bullshit.. the muslims laugh and mock us when we let them through our airports and security and don't oblige them to remove there burkha's because we don't want to cause problems.. It is not neccessary for them to where burkha's in there religion, So why make a big fuss about it..where a hijab or whatever it is instead.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@bettermaxim

Countries can request measures for their security. This is not the issue.

The issue is to impose on others not to wear the Burqa.

We do not believe it to be an obligation in our religion, but this is an issue of disagreement: Other Muslims believe it to be an obligation (based on OTHER methods of deducing legislation from the Quran and Sunnah), and proper respect for free choice demands me to respect their freedom.

Obviously, radicals have VOLATILE descriptions of freedom.

[qlt454]

you are right, the ban on the burka is a crime against freedom, and I think it is a bad idea, to use, once again the stick rather than the carot. But it seems that M. SarKozy only know this way (btw, for those who care, I'm french).

But there is a point you don't really talk about: what if a woman who has always worn a burqa suddenly decide to stop wearing it, how many of their husban would agree? How many would let her do as she want? You can't deny many wouldn't.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@qlt454

And what if a non Muslim couple have a major disagreement about anything and decide to divorce? Would you blame the institution of marriage?

Honestly, I only know very few people who wear the Niqab (Burka), and you seem to have a wrong idea that Muslim men can somehow "force" their wives to do what they want more then non-Muslim husbands, but this is not the case.

[elishebabb]

Why is nudity legal ? It is unhealthy. They tell us to wash our hands frequently. If we have no clothes on - what do we do ?....take a shower every 20 minutes ?

[ja60102]

muslim women should be allowed to choose to were the burca its apart of theyre religion ffs whats wrong with the world france is a nazi state

[klm330]

Sorry Sarkozy is Hungarian not Bulgrian...

[bobnizar]

as long muslims never increase their amal according the way shown by prophet muhammad s.a.w. , things will happen, everything that happens is with the will & permission of allah....the best thing that all muslims can do is to make doa & amal

[S0undBite]

Ironically by banning clothing france has made itself a little more like the extremist country it detests

[buzzin1975]

@S0undBite No it doesn't. Every country has the right to enact laws that are in line with the social mores of its constituent population. Western European countries by and large feel that covering up women in ridiculous shrouds like they're about to be shipped somewhere is antithetical to the social norms in their respective societies.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@buzzin1975

Preventing any human being from putting on the dress that he/she desires is worse than any tyranny possible.

Period.

(For the ske of those putting things out of context: Of course if any law prevents to cover one's face for security reasons, there would not have been any issue whatsoever. The issue is clear: Forcing people NOT to cover the part theyt want. This means they must stay at home, thus it is precisely what Sarkozy CLAIMS to be against: ISOLATING THEM FROM SOCIETY.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

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[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@KeelderaakHummmm.... for LIBERTE egalite Fraternite.

In France, therefore, it is liberte pour moi le Francais, mais VOUS l'etranger, YOU DO AS I SAY...

Excellent new heights of human rights.

[siorac54]

@MuhaddithDotOrg

No sir, principles of laicity apply to everybody.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@siorac54

So "laicity" is the new religion to impose on all people in France?

Great.

Thanks for making it clear.

[slinkiegirl2001]

i wish western people would leave these women alone the hate towards the burka is horrible are thee women ruining your lives by them wearing it w live in a free society if they want to wear it  that is tere choice

[Kimimus]

I forgot to add i love this video!!!! I really hope ppl watch this and Inshallah we will be allowed to wear our islamic dress without trouble

[Kimimus]

Assalam Aleikum - this maddens me so much! Im fuming! Why doesnt anyone bother to ask the so called 'prisoners' what they want? I wear a burka a niqaab - This is a command from Allah to cover my awrah no one has a right to tell me im a prisoner - if u want to know what i want, ask me!!! Dont assume because u dont like or understand it that i dont either - They talk of rights and freedom but they are taking ours away!

[jennilicious007]

France has the highest muslim population in europe being 5,000,000. around 2000 wear burqas, the Imam with the great mosque of paris and the chairman of the french muslim council are extremely against the wearing of the burqa bcause there is a danger in isolating the extremist part of the country. nd, the SCHOLARS are actually in debate as to wether the burqa is religious or not. there is no mention in the koran of the woman having to fully cover her face

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@jennilicious007

So let people exert theri freedom... Is it so hard to grasp?

(there are several views in Islam about this, and people must have the freedom to chose among the views, regardless of what any Imama says: The difference of opinions is to add more freedom NOT TO TAKE IT AWAY by forcing others to this or that opinion)

[treblinska]

burka must be worn ONLY& ONLY where its originated, if you people in Europe..please respect our wishes. thankyou

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

May we ask you: Where did you get this deep wisdom from?

That the burqa (or indian Sari, or the European pants, or Western blue jeans, or the tie or the Seik turban, or Arabian dress or Chinese Shaolin clothes, or Christian Dior designs etc...) must be worn ONLY & ONLY where they originated.

Or are we talking about discrimination against a specific race or religion ??????

It is better not to speak like that, it shows either extreme bigotism or utter imbecility.

[uboot4729]

It's your choice in your country ! but not in EUROPA ! ! ! ! ! !

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@uboot4729

So these are the new soaring heights of civilization, and human rights and freedom of choice.

Thanks to make it clear to all nations.

[siorac54]

@MuhaddithDotOrg

That's why women of all religion have to wear veil in muslim countries.

Where is heights of civiliation, human rights & freedom of choices in muslim countries. Please help my to find these values in sharia ?

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@siorac54

Let us carry your logic:

That's why a woman cannot walk in the nude in New York city.

That's why a woman cannot enter the French parliament in the nude.

Fill in the blanks for so many other instances.

Humanity will be better off when we all respect our own words, and do not twist them around. People seeking the truth can discern true sincerity, or just debative inconsistant symantics.

[Rachiejane1]

@uboot4729 France is not the whole of Europe you idiot - it is just one country in a continent!

[sufiatheart]

@MuhaddithDotOrg Excellent - demolish ZioNazi wall of hate

[sufiatheart]

Sarkozy is a ZioNazi maniac, who sufferesfrom LittleMan syndrome. He's a sickporno addict, married to a porn queen who bed hopped Europe & he dares tell muslim women what to do. He's a IsraHelli

[Eaglex2010]

Just so you know Turkey is a secular government and when they finally decides to allow the wearing of the Hijab in public institutions 76% of males are opposed to and 2 thirds of females and this is a country where 99% of the population is Muslim

By the way the ban on the Burka applies to all religious symbols, including wearing a necklace with a cross or star of David.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@Eaglex2010What does your comment have to do with the price of eggs in China?

Wearing the burqa is a minority in most Islamic countries, you do not have to single out Turkey.

The issue is about human dignity to be free to cover whatever part of your body that you want, EVEN IF YOU ARE IN A MINORITY.

THIS CONCEPT OF FREEDOM OF CHOICE IS ONLY HARD TO GRASP BY BIGOTS, sorry to be frank.

[Peaceworld111]

@Gary Spedding

it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cant disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

Barack Obama

[SolTheImmoralFire]

I'm not a fan of any religious social structure ( the whole world it seems nowadays =\ )

but this was and insightful and banning anything never solves anything at all.....ever....

humans you never learn

[GarySpedding]

I expect my comments will be ignored by muhadith as usual because he/she/they are yet to be able to defeat me in a debate.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

Gary: My debate is by videos...

And our videos are for impartial reasonable people. They can discern.

[GarySpedding]

Its also laughable that the comparison in this video is michael Jackson a Christian who never actually converted to islam who is a world wide Celebrity known all over by billions of people. The reasons for Him hiding his identity in public are NOT the same as those of muslim women and they are not even on the same scale him being a celebrity in comparison with an average woman nobody really cares about. Its also convenient michael jackson isnt alive to give us His own view as why he covered.

[699backstab]

your religion makes you worthless failed homosapeins. Your ridiculous costumes and demeanor are an insult to all of human kind. Basically you are good people ruined by this laughable notion of your god thing. FAIL!

[fromwilliams]

French quandary? A middle-age man Roman Polansky who reportedly forced a girl to satisfy his lust in natural and unnatural ways repeatedly is welcome in France to live, work, sign autographs, and dine at high levels, but 2,000 woman in France who dress like the mother of Jesus (God bless mother and son) is told that there's no room at the inn. This is nothing but contemporary liberal discretion, if not neo-colonialist self-righteousness.

[Gawwad1982]

Its difficult for the citizens in the middle east to reform their nations laws. Western nations like the US or the UK have always been supporting these monarchies with military arms and finance in return of secure offshore oil investments. The states use these devices to diminishing any legitamit reform/revolutionary movements that threatens to overthrow their family rule. You think the muslim worlds happy their holiest cities are in a nation named after a royal family. France should be smarter

[green1773]

why should france be smarter, because they are not allowed to have their own laws without a chance of reprecussions. name the rest of the nations who supply arms,so easy for people to attack the US,UK . there is plenty of other nations around them doing the exact same thing,but there is never anything to be gained by calling them out. BTW, do you drive,ever had heating,ever ride a bus. well then you just as guilty by using a product purchased by arms, my friend.

[Gawwad1982]

@green1773 throughout history stronger nations have always controlled the world around them. In todays world we have international laws that revolve around human rights. These rights are what was set by the founding fathers of western nations to be the foundation for any progress in world affairs. Progress based on freedom and liberty. If we continue to destroy this foundation we will have nothing to carry ourselves on...France would rather revert back to the dark ages than a new golden age.

[6Untitled9]

@Gawwad1982 " In todays world we have international laws that revolve around human rights. These rights are what was set by the founding fathers of western nations to be the foundation for any progress in world affairs."

That is correct. Which is why many people deem it unacceptable by modern standards. To indoctrinate women and men, into the belief that it is indecent for her, to leave her face uncovered in public.

[Gawwad1982]

That belief is based on religous and cultural freedom. Nontheless, her native customs indoctrinate how much covering of the face is respectable for her in front of her people. By forcing her to remove her coverings in public we are tearing the cultural fabric her ancestors established thousands of years ago, a fabric that makes them unique in their way of life.

There are modern islamic states such as malaysia, turkey, etc where these practices are accepted as a norm in a western society.

[6Untitled9]

@Gawwad1982

You know France has a very large Muslim population. Perhaps if Muslim women feel strongly enough about the issue. They can realise their considerable political clout within the democratic system, and bring about a reversal. 1 to 2 million voters can carry tremendous persuasive lobbying power. They could also organise a legal challenge to the ruling.

[Gawwad1982]

Only a small fraction of French muslims (about 0.4%) wear the burka - those from Burka wearing islamic societies (in which many happen to be refugees). Most Muslims in France are from northern Africa and the levant where many believe in the wearing of a head scarf without the face veil. This ban is singling out a specific subset of muslims who lack any proper representation in French politics. The majority of French muslims consider the Burka more of a cultural garment then a religous one.

[verdefull]

You live in Europe and u have to aim with european laws.If you don't like it get back from where u came from!!!!!

[1stNeoSpartan]

Stupid Sarcozy

[699backstab]

wow this is fail. muslim guy you are fucked in the head. All religion is bad for humanity. If you believe in the sky boogie man then you are guilty of high treason against the human race and you need to be cleansed

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

699backstab

We usually delete flaming comments

but this time we will keep yours,

to let impartial people judge for themselves on the difference between your personality and ours.

Impartial people know how to discern, and where true morals are.

[GarySpedding]

Where true morals reside is with the human race not some Allah guy in the sky who does not even exist. This video has hypocrissy labelled all over it. Not only is there a lacking of Quranic evidence or direct order for a woman to Cover her Face, Head and hair but there is also a severe lacking in mutuality between islamic world and the french government. When Saudi Arabia allows women their freedom of choice to Wear what they want in public, Eat freely without male escorts then there is freedom

[GarySpedding]

The video you have made cleverly attacks Sarkozy's Speech but does not look at any of the research or Facts that pushes for the ban or gives justification to the Ban. The FACTs remain that the wearing of Burqa, Hijab, Niqab are NOT islamic but Cultural to the middle east and are clothes originally designed for DESERT lifestyle NOT temperate lifestyle. There is no command in quran saying cover face. This relates back to MALE scholars trying to control Women by Brainwashing them

[GarySpedding]

The biggest asset islam has is that the scholars (who are all male by the way) have managed to convince women that it is part of islam to cover their faces and hide their identities to the public when this is simply not the case at all. You cant prove a woman is subserviant and oppressed if she has been lead to think she is making her own choices all her life when infact she isnt. Ask a muslim woman why she wears Burqa the usual answer is because allah said she must which is a lie fed to her.

[GarySpedding]

There are at least 40 different seperate issues surrounding the burqa and Niqab/Hijab in Western society. The fact is Muslims are REFUSING to intergrate with Western culture. Culture is not dictated by the religion you follow but where you come from in the world which is why we have diversity. If i want to see people dressed in Desert clothing i will go to the middle east.... if i want to see english clothing i will go to england i dont expect to see people dressed for a sandstorm in london

[buroji]

I had problems with Michael Jackson putting veils on his children.

[Gawwad1982]

nontheless, this ban goes against human rights...xenophobia has always been an achilis heel in france politics, so i guess by implementing this law they are maintaining their "french identity".

[green1773]

if your saying it goes against human rights,then you are saying muslim countrys are abusing western women rights by asking them to cover up. RIGHT

[Gawwad1982]

2 wrongs doesn't make a right...

[suspendmeassholes]

Can Western women in Saudi or Yemen run around in a mini skirt? Is that not their right? Is that not their choice?

When I walk around in Wembley in London I feel like I am in Afghanistan. If you want to live in Europe you should respect the culture. Just like the foreigners who live in the muslim countries do. If you want to wear a bedsheet go to a country that accepts it. The majority of Europeans do not. Respect our culture. If you live in Europe, you must embrace it. Or get out.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

"suspendme..."

Let us ask you:

Can Western women in HER OWN COUNRY run around NAKED in govfernment buildings, etc?

Is that not their right? Is that not their choice?

Your logic is so naive...

And thaanks for showing your dictatorial fashism, wanting to force people to conform to your dress code.

NO FURTHER COMMENTS NEEDED HERE...

[hodaka07]

Could you please name the exact texts that state a woman MUST COVER UP.

[MuhaddithProject]

hodaka07 - 1

The command for women to cover up is in the long aayah # 31 in surah al Noor (# 24)

The part that you are asking about is:

... And tell the believing women ... and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or ...

[MuhaddithProject]

hodaka07 - 2

By unanimous consensus (based on numerous indications & hadeeths) the action of "drawing the veil over the bosom" starts with the veil being over the hair, at the top of the head.

Some scholars view that the face is included when the covering is to continue in order to cover the bosom, & some scholars view that the veil covering starts over the hair then goes sideways by the side of the face, to cover the bosom (yet without covering the face)

The discussion is longer than our scope.

[hodaka07]

I have woken up that is why I Know islam has been highjacked by extreme points of view. If being covered head to toe is so dam good why don't men of islam cover up the same as the women! ONLY IN YOUR LITTLE MIND did you debunk anything. The world knows you as a phony.

[shnuggumz]

Hodaka07...you're certainly entitled to your opinions, but remember, the discussion in this particular forum is about the BURKA BEING BANNED, and not about whether or not we agree with various points on equality within Islam - this is an opinion on different subject. If you are indeed concerned about women's rights being compromised, and disagree with this ban on the burka, then uphold your support of these women by expressing your opinion on this point.

[hodaka07]

Well I do agree with the ban I am sorry if you think me intolerant , But women are not allowed to go bare headed in muslim countries. Why don't you cry foul there they don't want a head scarf, but that's okay there. Again WHY don't men cover up head to toe, to be fair answer that.

[MuhaddithProject]

hodaka07

You do a lot of talk, but the more you talk, the more you show that you do not know the taste of real freedom:

Whatever countries they are in (in "Islamic" countries or not), Muslim women are free to cover their faces or not to. Location does not dictate it, FREEDOM OF CHOICE DICTATES IT.

[nonclickableaccount]

Why should french female tourists feel accepted and comfortable in bikinis when they travel to some Muslim countries? We should ban them wearing it in our countries and our leaders say publicly it is not welcome in our countries.

[nonclickableaccount]

Muslim countries should ban tourists wearing bikinis in response.

[shnuggumz]

I'm not Muslim, and don't subscribe to all the poster's views, however I do believe preventing Muslim women from dressing/ covering as they choose is a racist based doctrine. This so-called "reasoning" is really personal OPINION strategically repackaged as factual. As such, we must recognize the dangers in accepting it. Any one of us (Muslim or not) could very well find oursleves on the opposite side of an issue, where this type of "reasoning" is imposed. It was used by Hitler, and many others!

[MuhaddithProject]

shnuggumz

I respect your integrity.

Mankind needs SINCERE and TRUTHFUL behavior, not false slogans pointing one way, and actions pointing the opposite way !!!

[hodaka07]

You are so full of crap your arguments does not hold water. You say women of Izlam are free just let them disagree with ANY man and see the beating she gets. IF Mike J's kids took off thier masks their dad would not kill them. You Phonies hhave no tolorance for all other you bomb kill shoot beat anyone that critizies Izlam are prints a cartoon of your pedophile hero Mohamad. We in the west know the truth you lie.

[MuhaddithProject]

hodaka07

"...let them disagree with ANY man and see the beating she gets. IF Mike J's kids took off thier masks their dad would not kill them"

NO.

A woman interrupted Omar's speech & rebutted him, to which he said: A woman is right & Omar is mistaken.

THIS IS OUR EXAMPLE. NOT WHATEVER IS CLOUDING YOUR MIND.

DID YOU HALLUCINATE AND SEE MALES IN OUR VIDEO FORCING THE WOMEN TO MARCH FOR THEIR RIGHT ?

COULDN'T YOU NOTICE THEY'RE WOMEN ?

Wake up from your self induced anti-Islamic hallucination.

[hodaka07]

Why can' t you see all the violent acts happening right now as we speak hardcore islam fundamentalists are making all muslums look bad. If you care speak up against that!

[MuhaddithProject]

hodaka07

This is another subject, which we debunked in our video responses to Fitnah.

Your change of subject reminds of the worn out tactic of enemies of truth: When they lose an argument, THEY JUST CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

& guess what: When we discuss that other subject (violence in this case), & when people like you lose that argument, they'll change the subject (& speak about the Burqa).

So STICK TO THE SUBJECT.

I repeat my advice: Wake up from your self-induced anti-Islamic hallucination.

[Mohsin77]

France is racist .

It is obvious they are targeting Muslims. Jesus said in the Christian bible that women should cover their hair ... Just like Christian nuns do, but I do not see the French banning nuns from covering their hair or banning them from wearing their modest clothing .. It is double standards and hypocrisy at its most hateful. If you are a white nun it is ok ... if you are non white it is not ok ... libertie, equalitie ... yeah right lol

[incredingo]

this seems a bit twisted to me

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

incredingo

What seems "twisted" to you?

I think you are refering to some comment, please elaborate.

As for Sarcozi's words, we made it clear how they can best be described as twisted.

[nonclickableaccount]

Democracy is an utopia where the majority respect the minority. It will never happen. Gradually, we will have no rights.

[voiceofreasoning]

tobygeral

Not only that, they fornicate and then delivering a baby, they say that is a love child, in fact it is the illegitimate child. And those women when they are abandoned by the man, they call themselves single mothers. They don't stop at that , they promote homosexuality and lesbianism. They commit adultery and they say, it consensual. They kill unborn babies and argue whether it is legal or illegal. They do everything upside down and argue they are civilized. An adulterous generation.

[voiceofreasoning]

Sakozy is pervert like Jack Sirak , he loves to see his wife walks in bikini to please his voters.

[H2OX777]

And what if a Muslim woman decides not to wear a Burqa?

But wait, the Burqa is an obligation!

Once again, there is only 1 choice for a Muslim woman.

Otherwise.... What's next? -> Honor killing?.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777

Thx you for showing the ethics of opponents of Islam, whereby U jump from Burqa (not an obligation according to numerous Muslim scholars, therefore simply an issue of personal choice) to insinuating that honor killing results from not wearing it!

U know this is a lie, & we challenge you to bring ONLY ONE AUTHENTICATED CASE OF HONOR KILLING FOR NOT WEARING THE BURQA: ONLY ONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ACROSS HISTORY. YOU'LL FAIL, so why the dishonest y? IS IT ESSENTIAL FOR YOUR "GROUP" ?

[H2OX777]

UHmmm

Perhaps Aqsa Parvez is the only one case.

Talking about dishonesty, that's something all true followers of Muhammad practice all the time. The level of cynicism is just awesome.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777-1

So you do not have one case, but you also want to mislead readers, as if you found one.

We leave it to what remains of your honesty, to weasel your way out of explaining why this "honor killing" had nothing to do with THE OTHER WOMEN IN THAT FAMILY:

Go ahead and google it: THE OTHER WOMEN IN THE FAMILY DO NOT WEAR THE HIJAB !!!

The issue of "inserting" the hijab is specifically within the repertoire of anti-Islamic tactics of dishonesty. Our job is to unveil them, WITH YOUR HELP, thx.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777-2

From your comment we can deduce one thing: If you were in that position, we can understand how your mind works, and how you would indeed be a threat to mankind, not only to honesty.

SO LET US REPEAT:

We challenge you to bring ONLY ONE AUTHENTICATED CASE OF HONOR KILLING FOR NOT WEARING THE BURQA.

What did you do?

Bring the case of a psychopath who violated every important human law, including Islam.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777-3

Now will cite examples of other "psychopaths": Does their behavior count AGAINST the same groups they contradicted?

A woman killed her 2 children, in order to hasten their meeting with Jesus Christ! This was NOT to "force" them to anything (like wearing the burqa), it was an act of MERCY.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777-4

Then there is the Christian-Science mother and father who killed their child in the oven, to excorcise the demon our of him !

And the Texas Chainsaw massacre...

The Davidians, etc.

What does it all mean?

That Christianity and Islam lead to this? Absolutely not, it means that messed up minds will always act in a messed up way, AND THAT DISHONEST PEOPLE (like you, sorry sir) use such incidents in order to disfigure the truth and take a jab against what they want.

[MuhaddithProject]

H2OX777-5

& don't think this lets atheism off the hook: Review statistics of crime and violence, atheists don't want to accept the results that the majority of crimes in society ARE COMMITTED BY ATHEISTS OR NON-PRACTICING people.

Plus, atheism doesn't have a system of morals whatsoever: The only moral system of atheists, to judge any issue, is what they feel right now about it !!

If a particular goal requires a specific sentence or slogan, they will gladly say it; tomorrow is another matter.

[nonclickableaccount]

H2OX777: Talking about dishonesty, that's something all true followers of atheistic Stalinists and Nazis practice all the time.

[sunkumvar]

When saudi arabia can have their own rules why can't france can have their own rules.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar wrote: When saudi arabia can have their own rules why can't france can have their own rules.

R U SERIOUS?

1- Saudi Arabia, like NUMEROUS WESTERN countries, have rules AGAINST "HOW MUCH" TO UNDRESS. I dare you to walk naked in New York: You'll sleep in jail.

2- But FORCING people TO UNCOVER parts of their bodies means to insult their dignity.

To be blunt: Would you accept your mother to be forced to nudity in the street?

Don't let the influence of Islam-Bashers hide the truth from you.

[sunkumvar]

Islamic countries don't give religious freedom to other countries than why muslims are asking for..?

Burqa really obstructs to maintain law and order as more and more muslims are sucide bombers and terrorists.

Are non-muslims allowed into mecca ..? can other religions are having religious freedom in Islamic nations ?

Nothing wroung asking for burqa ban as it is against the french culture.Moreover in the security point of view it will a great help.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar-1

Your insistance means that you do not mind your mother to be forced to walk naked in the street.

Am I right, or am I missing something within your insistance, your AVOIDING TO ANSWER, and your self contradictions?

(cont.)

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar-2

U wrote: "Islamic countries don't give religious freedom to other countries"

Islamic law is the ONLY law on earth (as I know) WHICH GUARANTEES members of other religions to apply THEIR OWN LAWS (re marriage, inheritance, punishments, etc)

In contrast, in USA & Western countries, people R FORCED TO THROW AWAY THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS LAWS, & MUST FOLLOW bigots (like you, sorry) who cosmetically beautify their oppression as "law of the land", to sugar-coat their compulsion and intolerance.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 3

U wrote: "Burqa really obstructs to maintain law and order"

- Scant dressing IS WHAT OBSTRUCTS law & order by turning perverts into SEXUAL TIME BOMBS waiting to predate on isolated "females", IN ORDER TO SATISFY THEIR LUST FROM ALL THE FLESH AND MEAT THEY KEEP GETTING EXPOSED TO.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 4

- NUMEROUS COUNTRIES find respectful methods to maintain law & order:

a- Assigning female officers (females R as good as males, right?)

b- Electronic sensors,

c- infra red & ultra violet scanning (wake up, we have 21st century technology at our disposal !!!)

Even Bush wasn't oppressive enough to ban the Burqa !

Muslims never objected against the toughest possible security checks; U can examine airport security checks: Did U see any Islamic demonstration against SECURITY MEASURES ?

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 4

The issue is forcing a woman NOT TO DRESS the way she wants. Why do you keep forcing us to ask you about your mother: Do you accept her to be forced this way?

U wrote: "as more and more muslims are sucide bombers and terrorists."

Your words are only hate propaganda.

A kid can sum up better than you the number of people killed by the Crusaders, by Cortez, in the inquisition, in Hiroshima & Nagazaki, Vietnam, by Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Nixon, Raegan and Bush.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 5

U wrote: "R non-muslims allowed into mecca"

Vatican has similar restrictions; Jews have similar restrictions, they even want to force Palestinians out of ALL Palestine !

R U allowed in White House? US Senate? French Parliament?

R men of your street allowed to your mother's bedroom?

Each country has the right TO DESIGNATE ITS OFF LIMITS AREAS. If U disagree, tell us YOUR IDEAL country / religion (If U R not a hypocrite) & we'll gladly pick it apart 4 U, in a little "reality check".

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 6

U wrote: Nothing wrong asking for burqa ban as it is against the french culture.

EVERYTHING IS WRONG:

We refuse YOUR potential treatment of YOUR OWN MOTHER, since your logic accepts to force her to walk nude in the street, if some country finds that your mother's current "chastity" it "against their culture".

The way things are going, it will not be long for some people to find it against their culture NOT TO walk naked & perform public sex). We'd love to know your position then.

[sunkumvar]

Nothing hate propaganda,as 9/11 and all of the following terrorist attacks have been done by muslims, innocent muslims are also suffering.But any country can't compromise with security of their own citizens.

Regarding your examples anything in war can't be compared with terrorism.War between nations are governed as per geneva convention.soverign nations have the right to declare war against other nations as per perseve threat/attack.their can't be any excuses for terrorism.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 1

u wrote: "... War between nations are governed as per geneva convention.soverign nations have the right to declare war against other nations... "

Thanks for bringing the point:

ATOMIC BOMBS (Hiroshima & Nagazaki) & carpet bombing (Vietnam cities) & napalm bombing & cluster bombs & slaughters of MILLIONS of Muslims, were BY OFFICIAL APPROVAL OF OFFICIAL GOVERNMENTS (unveiling their low standards & only stupid idiots or dishonest liars would claim Geneva convention was observed).

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 2

IN CONTRAST, ALL OFFICIAL MUSLIM SCHOLARS DECLARED 9/11 was against Islamic rules; there is even MOUNTING evidence it was an inside job (or facilitated from the inside).

And your words against terrorism reveal ugly and lowly hypocrisy (sorry to have to call a spade a spade):

TERRORISM IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE TERRORIZED THROUGH DEATH.

[MuhaddithProject]

sunkumvar - 3

ASK THE VICTIMS, they're the human beings that count, not persons like U with a hidden agenda & buried anti-Islamic hatred, permitting U to claim anything U want (or give me a better definition, & tell me its source !)

STATE terrorism was committed against numerous nations by Western countries, this is where your efforts should be directed IF YOU ARE SINCERE in opposing terrorism, not dedicating your time to use against Islam a doubtful inside job, REFUSED BY ALL MUSLIM SCHOLARS.

[Washu73]

I see it as freedom of dress. Muslim women should be allowed to dress in whatever way they feel most comfortable without some law saying otherwise.

[mouneer2008]

Jazaka Allah, I am praying to Allah to extend your (and your team) life in order to make more of this best YouTube videos.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

mouneer2008

Same to you.

The Prophet PBUH said: when a Muslim prays for his brother, there is a nangels that says: Wa lakum mithlu zhaalik (and the same for you).

I ask Allah to accept your prayer, and the prayer of the Angel after you, Aameen.

[afghan707]

JazaakAllah khair .....

[ConservativeMuslim]

FREEDOM OF CHOICE: let them wear the burqa if it is their own choice.

[MuhaddithProject]

ConservativeMuslim

yes, but the way mankind is now substituting lies and falsehood instead of truth, it seems that slogans such as human rights, democracy, freedom of choice, and the like, apply ONLY AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT CONCERN MUSLIMS !!!

This is obvious, it reveals a lot of hypocrisy, and has been predicted by our beloved Prophet PBUH.

[Kite208]

You have a problem with france in banning burqa but you have no problem with Saudia Arabia where they FORCE! Hijab on women.

an eye for an eye.

[Islam4Dummiez]

Kite208

1- you wrote "an eye for an eye", but the French Muslims did not force any non-Muslim to wear the Hijab, so you have your "eyes" confused.

2- there was no indignation to any woman in Saudi Arabia who was forced to wear the Hijab in public, while a Muslim woman being forced to take off her Hijab or Niqab would certainly feel violated.

3- Western governments FORCE people to not be nudists, so don't be a hypocrite. Forcing people to take off their clothes is far worse.

[ConservativeMuslim]

I believe in democracy: that one is not forced to do something against their own will. So, if women want to wear the burka by their own choice, let them. The West who claims to "defend democracy" violates freedom of choice. Zarkozy is a dictator.

[zizoubilly]

You *cannot* believe in democracy coz its a kufr (disbelieving) ideology you can only support Islam (Caliphate)

[Islam4Dummiez]

zizoubilly

democracy is not kufr...where did you get this strange idea from?

[zizoubilly]

Of course its kufr! In Islam we don't have political parties or elections as such, leaders are nominated & then the people decide who they want as the Emir/Caliph.

[MuhaddithProject]

zizoubilly - 1

U Wrote (CAPITALIZATION mine):

"leaders are nominated & THEN THE PEOPLE DECIDE WHO THEY WANT AS THE EMIR/CALIPH".

That's pure Democracy, since PEOPLE CHOSE WHO THEY WANT AS THEIR EMIR !!

1- Thank you very much.

2- ACCORDING TO YOU, YOU ARE A KAFIR because you just agreed with Democracy.

3- But of course Islamic jurisdiction is taken from scholars, not from unknown people, so WE DO NOT ACCEPT:

a- that Democracy is Kufr

b- nor that you are a kafir (for implicitly accepting it).

[MuhaddithProject]

zizoubilly -2

4- The tendency to classify as kafir all people who do not agree with us, is a very irresponsible sin. People with adequate Islamic learning don't proceed this way.

We hope you're NOT PRETENDING to be a Muslim, to reinforce FALSE impressions promoted by Zionism and Islam-bashers.

Persons claiming POLITICAL parties are NOT ALLOWED, are either trying to disfigure Islam, or simply ignorant people contradicting the major rule that ALL IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM UNLESS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN.

[MuhaddithProject]

zizoubilly -3

Thus establishing political parties is like drinking water, or walking in the street: They are all allowed in essence, AND IF THEY PRODUCE BENEFIT, THEN THEY ARE GOOD DEEDS (drinking, walking, establishing political parties).

To proclaim POLITICAL parties are forbidden, REQUIRES the daunting duty to bring any text from the holy Quran or Sunnah that forbids people to have "different POLITICAL ideas".

[MuhaddithProject]

zizoubilly-4 Again, your claim: "we don't have ... elections as such" is contradicted by YOU: "then the people decide who they want as the Emir..." These (& others of your) words SEEM to FALSELY DISTORT Islam. Since the Prophet DID NOT SPECIFY ANY unique method to appoint the leader, then VARIOUS METHODS ARE ALLOWED, provided they are OF BENEFIT according to prevailing circumstances: - General election (Abu Bakr's) - appointment (Omar's) - decided by a committee (Uthamn's), - etc.

[zizoubilly]

"ACCORDING TO YOU, YOU ARE A KAFIR because you just agreed with Democracy."

When did I call people who vote kafir? I said democracy (how its practised in the west) is kufr. The elections/appointments of the caliphs cannot be compared to elected leaders today, the difference being they implemented Islam, Lebanon, Turkey, Pakistan, Palestine etc. none of them rule by Islamic law. You bring me a hadith which says we can vote for a leader who doesn't implement Islam, sides with the kuffar etc.

[Mahmood42978]

That is true, they are foul leaders in many countries which are Muslim todays who were elected.

however the process itself is not evil or kufr, that must be remembered

rather you should say not democracy is kufr but Liberal Capitalist society is kufr

[Islam4Dummiez]

zizoubilly

what you described as the Islamic method of selecting leaders: "leaders are nominated & then people decide who they want" is exactly democracy.

[zizoubilly]

Yeah but since we cannot vote today in countries like Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon or Turkey because they don't implement islam!

[Mahmood42978]

so is the Muslim community affirming the Khilafa of Abu Bakr by referrendum kufr?

klindly answer

[MuhaddithProject]

Mahmood42978

- Exactly. Abu Bakr was ELECTED according to the "closest" democratic means possible for the time and circumstances.

- More than that, ONE OF THE FINEST DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS was the one resulting in the smashing victory of Hamas.

- There were also NUMEROUS elections in many Islamic countries across the last century, where ISLAMIC groups ran for ELECTIONS.

WHO DARED OBJECT AGAINST SUCH ELECTIONS?

(Let alone calling it "kufr" !!! Inadvertently giving a FALSE impression against Islam).

[muslim610]

Excellent video.

[DoubbleClick]

jazaakAllah khair for this excellent upload brother

brilliant analysis & reply mashaAllah