David Horowitz calls Ward Churchill "academic fraud"

[rivermill100]

David Horowitz is a hero

[OfficialCommentator]

David Horowitz is a joke!

[OfficialCommentator]

Why did people applaud when this idiot said that Ward Churchill was incompetent? Because they all hate him for what he said. And that is why he was fired. The problem is that no one understood what Churchill said in that paper.

[olmecbones]

@OfficialCommentator Where exactly did this guy say the word "incompetent"?

[OfficialCommentator]

@olmecbones I don't get your point. I used the word "incompetent" because I did not remember the words he said and it was a shortcut. But he said worse: "academic fraud impostor plagiarist and lacks any credential to hired in the first place". So, where I said "incompetent" change for this whole sentence. When was the last time you heard someone applaud after the utterance of these words? The reason why he was applauded was because people don't like Churchill for what he said in his paper.

[olmecbones]

@OfficialCommentator You don't get my point? I didn't have a point, I asked a simple question which you apparently understood because you answered it thoroughly and simply. Thanks.

As for your question, I really can't recall when the last time I heard these words applauded. But If people don't like this guy then I suppose they would applaud any perceived "incompetence" in order to justify their own unjust actions if they are indeed unjust.

[OfficialCommentator]

@olmecbones If you don't have a point, I am sincerely sorry that I jumped at you. People at youtube are really rude and I thought you were one of them. I agree that they applauded the statement that he was "incompetent" because they don't like what he said. And my point was that this is the proof that all this investigation was a sham!

[olmecbones]

@OfficialCommentator "!" < No need to get upset. I don't even know who this guy is. My mom mentioned him to me tonight. We're members of the Cherokee Tribe in OK, but I was born, raised and live in Seattle. I don't know much about my Native side and she was telling me about all the 'fake tribes' out there.

She also sad my tribe was sadly corrupted at the upper echelon.

[OfficialCommentator]

@olmecbones I don't know much about fake tribes. There is the issue whether this guy is a "real" indian or not. But this is not important. This guy wrote an important article about 911 and was fired for it.  Watch "When They Came for Ward Churchill" at you tube to understand it. It is in 6 parts. You should watch all 6 parts. But as a Native American, you should watch Part 4. I am watching it now. It is very powerful when he says that Indians should be able to define themselves.

[olmecbones]

@OfficialCommentator I'll look into that, thanks.

[OfficialCommentator]

@olmecbones Let me know if you like it.

[godscuttingyoudown]

enemies of free speech will always profess that they are the biggest defenders of free speech even claim that their efforts to undermine free speech is simply exercising free speech

[starkweather444]

Ward Churchill could be a raving drunken homeless man screaming on a street corner with absolutely no education to speak of. It doesn't negate the truth he is preaching although you desperately want it to.

[Uncle99B]

Guys like Horowitz are leading us down the road to the next Holocaust.

[holypsychopath]

awesome clip

[Mrch33ky]

@Freenetnow. You are trying to change the subject. I was speaking of the books he has written about the police state in America. Have you read any of those books? If not, you should before you cast aspersions on his character.

[Mrch33ky]

Unfortunately for Mr. Horowitz and the rest of the water carriers, the facts are on Mr. Churchill's side. If any of them had actually bothered to read any of Mr .Churchill's books they would see that Mr. Churchill is an excellent scholar and an elegant writer. Two things Mr. Horowitz cannot claim to be.

[otacon451]

@Mrch33ky oh snap!

[Freenetnow]

@Mrch33ky Would some of those facts include his being granted early tenure at UC Boulder's communication department by claiming he was a member of the Cherokee indian tribe? Or his '92 essay where he plaguarized Fay Cohen's work almost word for word? Or the Rocky Mt. News findings that he did it four other times? For which UC ended up firing him?

Those facts? Why are you defending him - he brought a lot of discredit to the university.

[gmdinformation]

@Mrch33ky Please... Churchill is a conspiracy nut among other irration things.

[Mrch33ky]

@gmdinformation Sorry I don't know what "irration things" are. Do you have any facts to support your opinion or are you just trolling?

[gmdinformation]

@Mrch33ky Umm...you don't know irrational when you see it mispelled? Are you sure you aren't just a conspiracy troll idiot? Lord knows there are no facts to back any of his stupid conspiracies up. Oh, but what we do have is a boatload of proof that Churchill tells lies. Lots of them.

[Mrch33ky]

@gmdinformation Clearly you haven't read any of Churchill's books. In fact you sound like someone who doesn't read very much at all. I will pray for you, poor soul.

[gmdinformation]

@Mrch33ky Idito's have books? And idiots read them? Poor morons.

[Mrch33ky]

@gmdinformation English isn't your first language is it? That's okay! America needs ditch diggers and cabbage pickers. So you can take your pick.

[sthugh]

@Mrch33ky Dude, get thee to a straight jacket!

[Mrch33ky]

@sthugh Verily, I say unto thee, make haste! Don a bag over thy loathsome head, for thy pie faced countenance is an abomination in the sight of the Lord!

[oldjoe5]

What can be done about the likes of traitors like Horowitz?

[bull864]

@oldjoe5 how is horowitz a traitor? oh, is it because a jew isn't a liberal?

[gmdinformation]

@oldjoe5 You're an idiot. But then, you already knew that.

[rayzorsedge77]

It's all a red herring, this 'fox is fascist-msnbc is commie' routine. Big media still get your money and the people in charge of everything dazzle the masses while America is handed to china in the biggest act of revenge in history.

[Donpopeel]

That's a very insightful observation.

[haw95]

Here's the truth:

On April 2, 2009 the jury returned A VERDICT FOR Professor Churchill in his case against the U. of Colorado.

The jury found UNANiMOUSLY that Wards 9/11 essay was a significant factor in the Regents decision to fire him, and that he would not have been fired but for his exercise of his First Amendment rights.

jurors concluded that Ward Churchill had NOT engaged in research misconduct, and that the Universitys accusations against him were essentially TRIVIAL

[haw95]

Here's the truth:

On April 2, 2009 the jury returned A VERDICT FOR Professor Churchill in his case against the U. of Colorado.

The jury found UNANiMOUSLY that Wards 9/11 essay was a significant factor in the Regents decision to fire him, and that he would not have been fired but for his exercise of his First Amendment rights.

jurors concluded that Ward Churchill had NOT engaged in research misconduct, and that the Universitys accusations against him were essentially TRIVIAL

[captainbob4u]

Now we can celbrate! Judge ruled Ward an academic fraud! Judge says no job, no money, pay your own atty & court fees!

This jerk has "noacademic credentials in the first place"! Great ruling today! Colorado can now celebrate! Think I'll burn one in remembrance..............."kin­dbud" remembrance...................­..

Toke one for one intelligent Black Judge!

[captainbob4u]

Wow, my wife called me immediately after the University emailed all staff that he was fired.....without compensation, no awards for lawyer fees & he's gotts pay all court costs! Celebrate Colorado! The Judge ruled he was a FRAUD!!! I'm on my third Beam & Coke! It's Party Time @ CU again!

[tastybitepizza]

Churchill just won his court case against the university.

[aphyd2]

churchill was fired because he "committed serious, repeated, and deliberate research misconduct", through "Plagiarism, Fabrication, and Falsification". A Colorado jury found that Churchill had been wrongly fired, but they only awarded him $1 in damages. LOL!

[Dealit707]

Look again Boobie!

Chief Ward Churchill got his dumb ass permanently kicked out of U/C.

[tastybitepizza]

I'm not a "Boobie." I just added some recent information.

[IamCanadian3333]

Haha wow, more of his brainless followers making unintelligent comments.

[moetthepoet]

David Horowitz is a fucking moron, he actually had the gull to call systematic racism "the fairy tale of the left"

how does this guy even have any credibility. all of his arguments are basically just pro bush crap, and calling people he does not like "communists" or "Marxists"

He even called The Peoples History by Howard Zinn "a bad Marxist cartoon"

[Dealit707]

Do you like the Obama Marxist bullshit?

I hope so, because that's what he's all about.

[moetthepoet]

lol...

Obama, the fucktard that backed the defense of marriage act the denies rights to same sex couples, the same Obama that increased military support to israel and condemed palestinian use of violece (ignoring both USA and Israels use of violence), who announced a new law that allows him to hold anyone indefinately for crimes they may not have evidence of... Marxist...lol, think you need to actually read Marx befor calling someone that right wing a Marxist.

[rob91368]

Jewish people own the government and head the arts,entertainment,and other organizations.

[flyboymd82]

Keep speaking the truth David! The truth will always win out in the end.

It might even set some of these ignorant brainwashed minds of the leftists free!

[chetansingh2006]

Zionist sabotage America like this one , Ward Churchill is true American and speaking on behalf of the true son of soil who have been kept in reservations ( Human zoo), may tribal now come forward and claim there rights and go to the United Nations

[rob91368]

agreed.

[StoogeWatcher]

Ward Churchill is a proven liar, phony, and anti-American. And how typical of you to blame Jews for everything.

[hint0122]

Ward Churchill is a freak

[tomestubbs]

He didn't on this particular posting but is heavily into obstructing academic freedom. He took up where Cheney and Rumsfeld started with the destruction of Students for a democratic society and the OEO.

[Dealit707]

Fuck SDS! Not a fucking thing democratic about them, from the 60's to the present, nothing but a bunch of Marxist assholes.

[sonrnhty]

I'm a professor at New Jersey City University and our president used a non-existent MA to obtain his position -- but nothing will be done about it -- because he has the approval of hte Board of Trustees. suggestions?

[BlackProteus]

"I'm a professor at New Jersey City University and our president used a non-existent MA to obtain his position -- but nothing will be done about it -- because he has the approval of hte Board of Trustees. suggestions?"

Here's one: Stop snitchin'.

[reddeath26]

Because clearly it is not considered malpractice if they are saying what the state wants them to say, right?

I strongly urge this information to become publicly known. If a qualified professor has been fired by someone who should not even be in such a position to begin with, it really raises questions about the integrity of the board and said firing.

[Mrch33ky]

@sonrnhty You could remind the Board of what their Duties are via an Adminisitrative Notice, sent registered mail, and include a citation of the penalties for failure to fulfill those duties. Generally, that lights a fire under corporate officers butts because they can't claim later at trial that they didn't know what they were supposed to do. Just recite the facts and don't accuse them of anything or draw any conclusions. Then stand back and watch the fireworks.

[deliciousmorton]

turncoat.

[tomestubbs]

It's always the one who slings the mud that wins! I like Ward Churchill and find his insights and perspective needed in academia. As for Horowitz the Communist gone Fascist I find little credibility in him. He's just another "little Eichmann" undermining freedom of speech.

[Robert4363]

Yea! Who ever would use a Communist fuck as some sort of intellectual opinion is beyond me! Oh yes did not the Communist Stalin send 50 tp 60 million christians and none-conformist to their deaths in the Gulags of Soviet Russia! I wonder why that historical fact is hardly spoken of when it comes to speaking of Holocausts

[StoogeWatcher]

It's the fascist left who hates free speech. They're the ones who try to censor any pro-America opinion.

[tomestubbs]

No such thing as a fascist left. Big business and the current ex-Trotskyite Neocons more closely resemble the 14 indicators of fascism and David is one of them. As for Ward, he has made some serious academic mistakes. And there is no such thing as "Islamo-Fascist!"

[StoogeWatcher]

Let's see who's the real fascists are, especially with: Blaming Jews and America for everything, controlling the media, censoring any pro-America opinion or criticism of radical Islam, rallying for the release of gangbangers, copkillers, and terrorists, support for quota systems, rape hoaxes, and rap music, election fraud, gun control, Planned Parenthood, affirmative action, paternity fraud, excusing Castro, Kim, Mugabe, Chavez, and Ahmadinejad, and hating American military and patriotism.

[tomestubbs]

It's the neocons who blame everyone else when they screw up from the first republican depression 1929 on! Liberals think that everyone has rights not just the ones with all of the illegitimately acquired money. You Neocons & social conservatives R the 1's who want a police state & R destroying the constitution and the Bill of Rights! Whose land R u occupying anyway fool? And the founding fathers of this country based our constitution on enlightenment principles not some stupid fairytale (Bible)!

[StoogeWatcher]

Liberals want a UN police state, where defending yourself is a crime. And you "secularists" are hypocrites because while you sue to get rid of Christianity, you support radical Islam. For instance, you cry "separation of church and state" if a few Christians want an after-school club, but you say nothing when kids are forced to read the Koran in those very same schools. You liberals are the ones destroying the Bill of Rights by being against the 2nd Amendment and stifling anti-jihadist dissent.

[tomestubbs]

The real assholes R the ones who outsource all of the jobs then when they get their little corporatocratic asses in trouble or they covet someone elses resources they use nationalism (patriotism) as a manipulation tool to get us to fight their fucking wars. U do not know what U R talking about! I support all religions but they should not become a theocracy, it goes against the constitution..., the thing that is more important than a symbol! Your logic sucks and is riddled w/ fallacy!

[rob91368]

how wrong you are sweetie. No one should ever mix religion and state. Look at the Middle East. How would you like the Mormons,Jehovahs Witnesses,Catholics,Southern Baptists videotaping your sex life, and your personal life,then come to your home and tell you are a sinner and have a gun put to your head and have you recite some Psalms and book of Matthew?

[sprtslvr1973]

Everything you said is false. I am an American Christian and say everything you said is false. "Secularists" have no more agaisnt Christianity than they do any other religion. its just that Christian groups here are more militant in their demands. "Christian" groups that follow flase teachers like Hagee and Robertson don't care about freedom to practice any religion other than their own. Frauds

I do not favor a "UN police state" But I also hate a unilateral Arrogant American world domination

[Dealit707]

It's such a joke when people refer to the "left" as liberals, when there is absolutly NOTHING liberal about them. To critisize them is to be ruthlessly attacked and slandered.......Liberal My Ass!!

They're nothing but a bunch of fuckers, intolerent ot any opposing opionions.

FUCK THEM!!