Idk, Rodger's put up better stats than Favre, is a top 10 NFL QB (statistically), and is a fuck of a lot better than any Vikings QB. The stats don't like with Rodgers. The Packers 6-10 record? Due to the inability to stop the run (injuries, lack of depth, bad talent), and inability to run the ball (Grant injuries, old tackles aging, revolving door in the interior OL).
Rodgers put up better stats? Here is a stat for you 6 wins! Favre lead that team to 13 wins the year before. Rodgers is not a closer. He chokes under pressure. The only stat I care about is wins and losses.
Rodgers turns a 13 win team to a 6 win team.
Favre turns a 4 win team to a 9 win team.
That's the stat I care about.
You can list all the excuses you want, it comes down to winning games.
That's such a black and white way to look at it though. Rodgers and Favre did not single handedly lead their teams to their respective seasons. I watched every Packers game. The amount of times Rodgers the day in the 2nd half of the game was insane. It's just that the defense kept giving it back up! And at some point the accountability lies with the defense.
Yes, it does come down to winning games, but I like to look deeper than that. Favre failed to win down the stretch.
Favre threw more interceptions than touchdowns last season, struggled down the stretch, and failed to make the playoffs with the Jets despite having Thomas Jones carry the ball 30 times a game.
Rodgers was in what you should consider his rookie year, had a downgraded defense and tougher schedule than Favre the year before, and put up better numbers than him. Cut the guy some slack and realize the fact that his potential is very high right now in Green Bay.
In 2007, the New York Jets were 4-12 without Favre. In 2008, with a healthy Favre completing 71 percent of his passes through the first 11 games, the Jets doubled their victory total to 8-3 by upsetting the New England Patriots and undefeated Titans in Tennessee.
A healthy Favre threw 20 touchdown passes in 11 games and made the Jets a much better team.
An ailing Favre threw nine interceptions and caused them them go 1-4 down the stretch.
In the 29 games before his arm and shoulder began hurting last season, Favre threw 23 more touchdown passes than interceptions (53-30) and led the Packers to an NFC title game.
The last two years Favre is 22-10. If you take out the last 5 gams that he was hurt in the last two years he's 21-6.
Tom Brady the last two years (06 & 07), excluding the last 5 games of 2007 for comparison purposes was 23-4.
Favre's arm and shoulder have been hurting his entire career. 07 with the Packers in Dallas, he hit his elbow on the helmet of a DB, injuring a nerve in his elbow, and had to be removed from the game. Yet he came back the next week fine, and continued to play at a high level. So you're little stats based on injury/non-injuries are BS. You can't discount games in which he was "injured", he's being playing hurt his whole career, and that hasn't stopped him.
If you say I can't list injuries as an excuse for the Packers poor season, then you can't blame a bum shoulder for Favre's poor run. Favre would never blame an injury/
You're obviously either a Vikings fan, or a Favre lover. Favre used to be my idol, until he made the Packers seem evil, and is a straight jerk for wanting to come back to spite the Pack, and us fans. If you're a Vikings fan, whatever.
Who's to say in his advanced age he won't get injured again? And you can't say his shoulder was the root of his demise down the stretch. If his shoulder hurt so much, and needs surgery now, then why even bother playing?
More... Why make those idiotic throws? Nine interceptions isn't the product of a bad shoulder, it's the product of making dumb choices, combined with the inability to make those throws, because of the bad shoulder. If that's all good and true there, then why make throws, that you know you can't make?
"If his shoulder hurt so much, and needs surgery now, then why even bother playing?"
Not sure exactly what you mean. Favre had surgery in the end of May. Are you saying why didn't he have it in the middle of the season? Or why didn't he sit on the bench? Those are questions for Coach Mangini not Favre. Coach obviously felt that a hurt Favre is better than the rest of the pretenders that they had at the QB position. Playing injured shows how tough Favre is. It's up to the coach if he plays.
Oh and the fact Favre sucked down the stretch so yard, even with the NFL's leading rusher is sad. Thomas Jones was a bigger difference maker than Favre was.
Look at Thomas Jones' stats from previous years, and take a look at Thomas Jones' stats this coming year.
D's respected Favre arms, which left 1 less guy in the box for Thomas Jones. Jones is a subpar back, and subpar backs exceed expectations with a good qb.
It's actually the opposite. Good RB's help average QB's win. Look at the Titans and Vikings as two examples. Jones sucked the year before due to bad OL play by the Jets, everyone knows that. They improved the OL over the off-season, and Jones got better. Simple.
honestly he would improve the vikes because he would help jackson would have smarter and better play making, favre dosnt want revenge of the fans probably no one but my guess in only TED or MIKE please dont go hating FAVRE because ted kick him to retirment FAVRE was fighting for his right
yeah cuz favre really took Kellen Clemens under his wing last year and totally didn't get Mangini fired and make kerry rhodes or thomas jones hate him or anything.
favre loves the fans, he hates TT and MM, but sticking it to them is sticking it to the team, which IS THE FANS SINCE WE OWN THE TEAM.
happy 1000 viewers :)
mrcool507 7 months ago
YOU must feel like a dumbass cause u were way WRONG bout favre
vikingfan1730 1 year ago
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Ongie 1 year ago
"Favre won't improve the Vikings passing game ... Honestly they'd be better off without him " nice call nostradamus.
k3w1b3an5 2 years ago
Oh and one more thing.
Aaron Rodgers fuckin blows.
subpar07 2 years ago
Idk, Rodger's put up better stats than Favre, is a top 10 NFL QB (statistically), and is a fuck of a lot better than any Vikings QB. The stats don't like with Rodgers. The Packers 6-10 record? Due to the inability to stop the run (injuries, lack of depth, bad talent), and inability to run the ball (Grant injuries, old tackles aging, revolving door in the interior OL).
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Rodgers put up better stats? Here is a stat for you 6 wins! Favre lead that team to 13 wins the year before. Rodgers is not a closer. He chokes under pressure. The only stat I care about is wins and losses.
Rodgers turns a 13 win team to a 6 win team.
Favre turns a 4 win team to a 9 win team.
That's the stat I care about.
You can list all the excuses you want, it comes down to winning games.
subpar07 2 years ago
That's such a black and white way to look at it though. Rodgers and Favre did not single handedly lead their teams to their respective seasons. I watched every Packers game. The amount of times Rodgers the day in the 2nd half of the game was insane. It's just that the defense kept giving it back up! And at some point the accountability lies with the defense.
Yes, it does come down to winning games, but I like to look deeper than that. Favre failed to win down the stretch.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Favre threw more interceptions than touchdowns last season, struggled down the stretch, and failed to make the playoffs with the Jets despite having Thomas Jones carry the ball 30 times a game.
Rodgers was in what you should consider his rookie year, had a downgraded defense and tougher schedule than Favre the year before, and put up better numbers than him. Cut the guy some slack and realize the fact that his potential is very high right now in Green Bay.
Rodgers was better. End of story.
njnysportsfan 2 years ago
Listen up douche bag.
In 2007, the New York Jets were 4-12 without Favre. In 2008, with a healthy Favre completing 71 percent of his passes through the first 11 games, the Jets doubled their victory total to 8-3 by upsetting the New England Patriots and undefeated Titans in Tennessee.
A healthy Favre threw 20 touchdown passes in 11 games and made the Jets a much better team.
An ailing Favre threw nine interceptions and caused them them go 1-4 down the stretch.
contd...
subpar07 2 years ago
p2.
In the 29 games before his arm and shoulder began hurting last season, Favre threw 23 more touchdown passes than interceptions (53-30) and led the Packers to an NFC title game.
The last two years Favre is 22-10. If you take out the last 5 gams that he was hurt in the last two years he's 21-6.
Tom Brady the last two years (06 & 07), excluding the last 5 games of 2007 for comparison purposes was 23-4.
subpar07 2 years ago
Favre's arm and shoulder have been hurting his entire career. 07 with the Packers in Dallas, he hit his elbow on the helmet of a DB, injuring a nerve in his elbow, and had to be removed from the game. Yet he came back the next week fine, and continued to play at a high level. So you're little stats based on injury/non-injuries are BS. You can't discount games in which he was "injured", he's being playing hurt his whole career, and that hasn't stopped him.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Based on your comments all injuries are treated equally. You're wrong again.
This is very similar to the injury that John Elway had prior to the 1998 season, when you were just a baby in diapers. Read up about it.
subpar07 2 years ago
My point is Favre has had severe injuries before and has played through them.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
If you say I can't list injuries as an excuse for the Packers poor season, then you can't blame a bum shoulder for Favre's poor run. Favre would never blame an injury/
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
You're obviously either a Vikings fan, or a Favre lover. Favre used to be my idol, until he made the Packers seem evil, and is a straight jerk for wanting to come back to spite the Pack, and us fans. If you're a Vikings fan, whatever.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Who's to say in his advanced age he won't get injured again? And you can't say his shoulder was the root of his demise down the stretch. If his shoulder hurt so much, and needs surgery now, then why even bother playing?
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
More... Why make those idiotic throws? Nine interceptions isn't the product of a bad shoulder, it's the product of making dumb choices, combined with the inability to make those throws, because of the bad shoulder. If that's all good and true there, then why make throws, that you know you can't make?
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
"If his shoulder hurt so much, and needs surgery now, then why even bother playing?"
Not sure exactly what you mean. Favre had surgery in the end of May. Are you saying why didn't he have it in the middle of the season? Or why didn't he sit on the bench? Those are questions for Coach Mangini not Favre. Coach obviously felt that a hurt Favre is better than the rest of the pretenders that they had at the QB position. Playing injured shows how tough Favre is. It's up to the coach if he plays.
subpar07 2 years ago
Why didn't he sit on the bench is what I was saying.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Oh and the fact Favre sucked down the stretch so yard, even with the NFL's leading rusher is sad. Thomas Jones was a bigger difference maker than Favre was.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
Look at Thomas Jones' stats from previous years, and take a look at Thomas Jones' stats this coming year.
D's respected Favre arms, which left 1 less guy in the box for Thomas Jones. Jones is a subpar back, and subpar backs exceed expectations with a good qb.
subpar07 2 years ago
It's actually the opposite. Good RB's help average QB's win. Look at the Titans and Vikings as two examples. Jones sucked the year before due to bad OL play by the Jets, everyone knows that. They improved the OL over the off-season, and Jones got better. Simple.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
I don't see why you're being overly nasty about this either.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
I mean simply making my point about Brett Favre isn't cause to call me names and rate all my videos one star.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
People are going to call you names no matter what because they can and they like to.
cmnesnah 2 years ago
Wowzers
marquesbrownlee 2 years ago
nice vlog, ur like phillip defranco or better!
Sportsin10 2 years ago
I plan to do a lot of soccer- mostly transfer talk during the summer
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
if you're going to do european football you should be doing the transfers .
elissj95 2 years ago
Very good keep it up .
elissj95 2 years ago
honestly he would improve the vikes because he would help jackson would have smarter and better play making, favre dosnt want revenge of the fans probably no one but my guess in only TED or MIKE please dont go hating FAVRE because ted kick him to retirment FAVRE was fighting for his right
55powell55 2 years ago
yeah cuz favre really took Kellen Clemens under his wing last year and totally didn't get Mangini fired and make kerry rhodes or thomas jones hate him or anything.
favre loves the fans, he hates TT and MM, but sticking it to them is sticking it to the team, which IS THE FANS SINCE WE OWN THE TEAM.
JLBsportsTV 2 years ago
but why didnt they let you choose on rodgers or favre???????? but some of the fans wanted ted fired but the fans didnt get to choose on anything.
55powell55 2 years ago
Great job! You should continue Vloging.
HorRProductions 2 years ago
Very good!
tiem230 2 years ago