I have some aluminum records that play this way. They are speech practice records, and some pieces like "A day at Coney Island" and "The rat who couldn't make up his mind" were recorded over & over. There were also excerpts from famoud speeches.
Even more interesting, these records move the needle up and down, not side to side like common records (Notice the reproducer is facing front to back, not left to right like most acoustic 78 players.
My modern phonograph, tho stereo, can play a "hill & dale" record, tho the sound is not as loud as a regular record, acoustic or electric. I have "Kitten on the keys","Monastery Waltz" and 2 Billy Jones & Ernie Hare songs on such.
@EmmetEarwax Hi. I little trick. If you are using a stereo cartridge, reverse the phase on one channel (Switch the + and - wires around). This will make the cartridge sensitive to hill and dale. I do this all the time with Edison records, and they sound the same as my Edison H-19.
@videorestore2 nice! thats quite a fast speed! but they slowed that up with the LPs. by the way, does your record really play the other way, as in in to outward?
@kennyfreestyler88 These Pathé discs and machines were made to go 90rpm. The sapphire-ball stylus tip was very gentle on the grooves, and Pathé discs that were only played with this tip looked and sounded new even after decades of heavy use. When you find a Pathé disc with greyed grooves, that means someone tried (at least once) to play it with a steel needle.
Many thanks for the technical info.......just tried the blunt needle technique as you suggested...........in a few days time, I will convert one of my spare diaphrams with a makeshift horn and try and post a couple of my 1905 Pathe Discs on YT............Thanks again...............Clive Stewart, London SW4
Not sure I like the sound of that. Although a blunt needle will work, a slightly safer alternative is a ball point sewing machine needle (used for stretch fabric)& cut to length. Because of the diameter, it will be like using a soft tone needle though.
These disc's didn't contain abrasives like lateral 78's, which was added to wear the steel needle instead of the shellac, so although worn, the angled edge of the point will still be doing some damage in the groove.
Well, considering the "quality" of todays so called music, would anybody in a 100 years time want to listen to it ? This is excellent, let us have more. I sometimes think we have passed the peak of quality in music and culture (exceptions of course). We seem to be on a depressing downward slide.
@voxhumanapipe "I am horrified at the thought of all the terrible music that will preserved on record for all time." - Sir Arthur Sullivan, in a message to Thomas Edison, October 1888. (Some doubt the authenticity of that record, but I don't care - the message, by whoever it is, is very prescient!)
I have some aluminum records that play this way. They are speech practice records, and some pieces like "A day at Coney Island" and "The rat who couldn't make up his mind" were recorded over & over. There were also excerpts from famoud speeches.
EmmetEarwax 2 months ago
Even more interesting, these records move the needle up and down, not side to side like common records (Notice the reproducer is facing front to back, not left to right like most acoustic 78 players.
dave631bnetzero 10 months ago
My modern phonograph, tho stereo, can play a "hill & dale" record, tho the sound is not as loud as a regular record, acoustic or electric. I have "Kitten on the keys","Monastery Waltz" and 2 Billy Jones & Ernie Hare songs on such.
EmmetEarwax 1 month ago
@EmmetEarwax Hi. I little trick. If you are using a stereo cartridge, reverse the phase on one channel (Switch the + and - wires around). This will make the cartridge sensitive to hill and dale. I do this all the time with Edison records, and they sound the same as my Edison H-19.
dave631bnetzero 1 month ago
This kind of music allways reminds me of fairgrounds.
CoolDudeClem 1 year ago
Wow! I've two records of this.
Gruppitaliani 1 year ago
76 rpm right? and this record is rather strange! it plays inward to outward
rweerakkody4565 1 year ago
@rweerakkody4565 : in fact it's between 90 and 100 rpm.
videorestore2 1 year ago
@videorestore2 nice! thats quite a fast speed! but they slowed that up with the LPs. by the way, does your record really play the other way, as in in to outward?
rweerakkody4565 1 year ago
@rweerakkody4565 : YES ! No tricks. They are made that way.
videorestore2 1 year ago
76 rpm right?
rweerakkody4565 1 year ago
why is the needle going outward? wouldnt it have to be going backwards for it to be doing that?
beatlesfan1975 1 year ago
@beatlesfan1975 :That's the way this disc was recorded. The start was at the center instead off the outer side.
videorestore2 1 year ago
neat.. it goes outward..
ashley7327 2 years ago
speed will either be 90 or 100prm for pathe
DJKrissiB 2 years ago
Almost sounds like Souza's Liberty bell march :)
Thanks for uploading!
Rolf
otterhouse 2 years ago
What's the speed? Sure no 78 rpm.
charlesbonares 2 years ago
I counted a minute of spins & it seems to be like 97rpm... it is fast!!!
kennyfreestyler88 2 years ago
@kennyfreestyler88 These Pathé discs and machines were made to go 90rpm. The sapphire-ball stylus tip was very gentle on the grooves, and Pathé discs that were only played with this tip looked and sounded new even after decades of heavy use. When you find a Pathé disc with greyed grooves, that means someone tried (at least once) to play it with a steel needle.
esroberto1 1 year ago
Never seen one of these Pathe ball-point records before, let alone one playing! Great sound.
muscleco 3 years ago
Frank........
Many thanks for the technical info.......just tried the blunt needle technique as you suggested...........in a few days time, I will convert one of my spare diaphrams with a makeshift horn and try and post a couple of my 1905 Pathe Discs on YT............Thanks again...............Clive Stewart, London SW4
stewartgas 3 years ago
Not sure I like the sound of that. Although a blunt needle will work, a slightly safer alternative is a ball point sewing machine needle (used for stretch fabric)& cut to length. Because of the diameter, it will be like using a soft tone needle though.
These disc's didn't contain abrasives like lateral 78's, which was added to wear the steel needle instead of the shellac, so although worn, the angled edge of the point will still be doing some damage in the groove.
gramophoneshane 3 years ago
Well, considering the "quality" of todays so called music, would anybody in a 100 years time want to listen to it ? This is excellent, let us have more. I sometimes think we have passed the peak of quality in music and culture (exceptions of course). We seem to be on a depressing downward slide.
voxhumanapipe 3 years ago 9
@voxhumanapipe "I am horrified at the thought of all the terrible music that will preserved on record for all time." - Sir Arthur Sullivan, in a message to Thomas Edison, October 1888. (Some doubt the authenticity of that record, but I don't care - the message, by whoever it is, is very prescient!)
luvmyrecords 8 months ago