This is wrong but don't bash all the Pakistani solider for this, in Iraq their have been 50,000 rape cases still unanswered for by American and NATO forces, India has so many rape and child abuse cases that its banned from any more foreign UN work. 99.9% of Pakistanis are not like the ones in this video but heck BBC likes being biased an only shows the few bad fuckers who should be stripped of their duty.
Small suggestion.Indians make the largest contingent of UN peackeepers.The Indian army is answerable unlike in pakistan.Therefore they are highly disciplined(more than western troops too,forget pakistan).The solution to this is kick the paki out of Sudan,Congo and other areas where peacekeepers operate and bring more Indians in.Period!
This is extremely perverted and nothing better than what is expected from rabid muslims.Fucking paki muslim animals have treated Indian POW's in the past(kargil)
.....nor UN has informed Pakistan about involvement of any Pakistani peacekeeper in any such incident. The Pakistan Army will take up the case with the UN and the Office of Oversight Investigation Service (OSIS) for detailed investigation of the matter and if the report proves to be false, the army is liable to take legal action against the channel, ISPR added.
.....in the area during that period. ISPR added that Pakistani peacekeepers were highly disciplined and motivated soldiers who were respected for their professionalism and dedication all over the world. It said that it was unfortunate that a television channel which claimed to be unbiased had broadcast a one-sided version of the report. It is another attempt to malign the Pakistan Army and UN Peacekeepers, the ISPR stressed. No such incident has been reported from mission area nor UN has
Pak peacekeepers not involved in child abuse: ISPR
RAWALPINDI: The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Tuesday denounced as mere propaganda a news report broadcast by BBC World that alleged the involvement of Pakistani peacekeepers in child abuse on the Ivory Coast. ISPR said investigations had found the report ‘malicious’ and ‘baseless’, adding the incident in question is nearly six months old and nothing was reported either formally or informally to any United Nations office...........
UN Pakistan Army Peacekeepers in Africa molesting children? I wonder, why does ISPR block such news? and why our so-called, 'free' media takes up such issues.
Pakistan is one of the most vile countries in the world; the levels of prostitution there are shamefully the highest globally. Pakistan just has no idea how women should be treated
but most africans would rather side with moslems since they think christianity is a white man's religion. Where is Farrakahn when you need him on this?
Pakistan is not a Islamic country, It uses British laws and was created by the British...and to link a state with Islam is ignorance at the highest level..Note these Pakistani soldiers(Punjab(muslim regiments-British Tommies BBC doc.) also served the Christain British Empire/ Queen of England army before becoming part of Pakistani army, the were awarded Pakistan and its dictatorship by the English, white man..so they are still your soldiers..remember Paki army is an ally in the "war on Terror"
The Punjabi(Muslim) regiments fought against the Ottoman Empire(Muslim Empire) plus other Muslim nation(Afghan-Anglo war 1, 2 and 3rd) alongside the British Army...and today they are buried in British graveyards and are serving the same white men as they did before 1947..GO do your research and see for yourself. British Lawyer and Agent Jinnah was made founder of Pakistan by the British, he did not know ISlamic laws nor cared for Islam, nor practiced Islam.
@garvaggio Warren Jeffs is a Fundamentalist Mormon(FLDS) not Catholic. The FLDS are a nasty bunch who believe that young girls between 11 and 16 (maybe even younger) can be married to adult men in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and older in evil polygamous marriages. Once these babies start menstruation they are fair game for the dirty nasty old men in the religion.
@1234Krueger you r the big mother fuckers of ever . you dont know where is ur sister or mother tonight .you bloody raskal ,son of a beach ............
you r the big mother fuckers of ever . you dont know where is ur sister or mother tonight .you bloody raskal ,son of a beach ............2 ...........@1234Krueger
@RockofEngland each verse of the Quran has contextual history that needs to be known and a lot of study years in fact before u can even begin to transliterate the Quran, most transliterations are inept and 'direct' hence why ur meant to learn Arabic instead of reading the transliteration , and just because u read the transliteration does not make u an expert on any sort on what the verse is referring to, unless ur a scholar who has studied it for many years and qualified don't quote the Quran
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is a command that Muhammad gave to himself, allowing himself unlimited sex. Others are limited to 4 wives, but may also have sex with an unlimited nbr of slaves.
@RockofEngland so you know which Hadiths people try to 'tamper' with as the chain of narration is inept and can be split into strong,alright,weak and not true,there is a huge problem in the Muslim world with 'common' Muslims or people taking info from what is not the consensus of the scholars and misinforming people,anything more then the fundamentals Muslims should not give advice,esp to non-Muslims about,as we don't have the proper knowledge which is becoming more of a problem due to the net
Its not people taking the Hadiths or Quran out of context, its the Hadiths and the Quran that preach this evil ideology called Islam and that people follow like the Pakistani Army in the above video.
Bukhari (62:137) - An account of women taken as slaves in battle by Muhammad's men after their husbands and fathers were killed. The woman were raped with Muhammad's approval.
@RockofEngland u can go ask any traditional scholar who has proper knowledge rather then reading transliterations by no one knows who and saying that it is legal in Islam to rape people , when it is not , these Muslims are not following Hadith < and some so called 'Hadith' are not actual Hadith, , Hadith has a system to stop people from calming things as hadiith that aren't , just because ill-informed people especially muslims count these as hadith does not make them so!
Okay, so you think I am lying. Go read the Hadiths that I've posted and check for yourself. I do not lie. The Hadiths are the testiment odf the followers of the paedo prophet Muhammad and the words of his deads put down onto paper.
Why I need an Immad to deceipher what it says in black and white is beyond me. I have a brain, I can read. What they say is irrefutable.
@RockofEngland also the quotation of that Hadith is definitely wrong , historically Arab's did things like, rape women , after they had 'won' them in battle , and some Muslim followers did this once they became Muslim, that specific Hadith u quoted talks about how they went to ask the prophet (rsaw) whether this was legal as he was at that battle , and he asked them thrice "Do you really do that?" and then condemned them for their actions
You say that Allah condemmed the rape of captive women after battle, although I don't know why a religion of "peace would go to battle, but the Qur'an says different to you:)
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
@RockofEngland seriously if ur gonna quote something quote it right that verse say's "Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first),
@Dark0Tricks "The Qur'an and authentic ahadith do not command women to be obedient to their husbands, so that it is not a sin on their part if they sometime do not listen to their husbands. The Qur'an and Hadith consider obedience to the husband as simply a desirable quality of the wife" , "Since men are qawwamun over their wives, they must have some authority to make decisions, for a person cannot be an effective guardian or maintainer of someone without having some decision making authority."
@RockofEngland the word in this verse that is used for the man (guarding) is qawwamun which in short is someone who is continuously guarding, maintain or taking care of something(a house etc) or someone(children, wife etc) in a proper and fair manner
@RockofEngland "also form the statement God has favored some more than others in some ways we should not conclude, as many careless readers of the Qur'an do, that Islam views men superior to women. For this statement does not exclude the possibility that in some other ways women may be favored more than men"
@Dark0Tricks Bukhari (62:58) - A woman presents herself in marriage to Muhammad, but he does not find her attractive, so he "donates" her on the spot to another man.
Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'"
Abu Dawud (2155) - Women are compared to slaves and camels with regard to the "evil" in them.
You are right, your religion certainly made men more equal then women.
@RockofEngland just quoting hadiths is pointless , as before it is very possible u did not quote them correctly , as i showed before , also ur knowledge of islam is minimal hence why u quote transliterations without an explanation for them , explanations are very important as anything transliterated loses a vast majority of its context and meaning ! hence why they come with explanations
@Dark0Tricks I have given the Hadith number for you to go and check, I have given the Quranic passage for you to go and check, all you have done is say I'm wrong and that I'm not entitled to read them because I'm not an Iman.
I suggest you source then for your self. Surely you have a brain and can think your self and you don't need some body else to do it for you. unlike you I am not a slave to an others thought process.
@RockofEngland i gave u an explanation for one if i gave it to u for every one it'd be 15+ pages long , i did correct ur quotation 4 - 5 hadiths ago, and i have said quoting the Quran and Hadith , to others ie publicly without proper explanation is not to be done not that u cannot read it privately, and i did check most of these verse such as the one were u said the prophet condoned rape
Your explaination... You said only Imans are allowed to translate Hadiths and the Qur'an. Are you saying that you are an Iman?
Unlike you I let people make their own minds up, rather than bainwashing them by telling them that this means that and this means this and if you don't believe then you are stupid !!!.
The prophet did condone rape. Are you going to condem this, I'm still waiting for you to condem the rape in the video....
@RockofEngland side note i did (a) condemn rape in this video, and also made a point that rape is a serious problem in today's world (b) i said direct quotes of the quran with out explanation - in relation to qutoing quran to others < , and i am not brainwashing u , if someone writes something and says this is what it means, are you going to tell that person his wrong? im not brainwashing people , the quran has a specific meaning, it is not a poem,etc that people should interpret how they want
@RockofEngland which was quoted incorrectly, for the one with 'obedience' to husband i gave u a proper explanation, for u to just throw hadiths at people, esp when u have read it in a translated format, and then say i am wrong when this is a religion i practice everyday and study at least 8 times a week (with proper teachers), it would be logical when i tell u , rape is not condone in islam u believe that person , just like u would believe a chemist on what 2 reactive agents would do if mixed
@Dark0Tricks You say rape s not condoned in Islam but it is.
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
Raping of the women, (slaves) who have their men folk killed is known as War Booty. Why are you lying ?
@RockofEngland "To answer this question, it should first be remarked that Islam has tolerated slavery but has never approved of it, and that all its teachings and prescriptions in this regard lead to its alleviation as far as possible in the short term, and, in the longer term, conduce to its progressive suppression. To abolish it would have been impossible in a world in which it was generally practiced by all the states which bordered on the new Muslim empire"
@RockofEngland second all salves had to be given equal right as their master , cloths, food, status , slave were allowed to buy them self and the ,master could not refuse, salves were only allowed to be enemy's i.e. Prisoners Of War , following a lawful war, thirdly women could not be raped , and fourthly since the Ottoman Caliphate slavery in islam is prohibited
@RockofEngland also why would u want to believe that rape is acceptable in islam because u are pretty much arguing against me that rape is not condemned in islam and that women don't have rights, why would u argue that ? and ur finding specific verse which u haven't explained and said that this verse means ur allowed to rape,and i'm not a slave to other thoughts processes,i chose i islam by my own will, and am very logical,and have a brain.
@RockofEngland so as i have said repeatedly you may know how to read English,but the Quran is NOT meant to be read in English,the English is there as a GUIDE to people who aren't well versed(most pplz)and in books come with commentary explaining the verse, and as most people like you read the Quran from the net were the person who made the site has no idea what their doing they become mis-informed,that short verse is actually explained in 2 pages, so there is a lot more to it then u think
Okay forget the Qur'an, if according to you only Imans are allowed to translate it. Look at the video. Look at Darfur, Somalia, evrrywhere Islam meets another culture we have violence, oppression, murder and rape. Theses are all condoned in the Qur'an.
To deny it is to deny the truth, the Islamic term for lying to save face for Islam is Al Taqiyya. You practice it, but the words of the Hadiths and in the Qur'an are eternal.
iv) The obedience of the wife to the husband, like all obedience in Islam, is only in what is right and proper. The wife can and indeed should disobey any improper, un-Islamic, command of the husband, e.g., if he commands her not to wear hijab.
@Dark0Tricks You call it obedience I call it slavery.
Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
@RockofEngland look mate very simply u have time and time again just quoted random stuff with out any explanation u have no idea what ur talking bout u said women have no right to divorce yet they do,ur not well versed in islam, as soon as i give u an explanation u 'want' to cling to another matter,which u have no understanding of as was seen by the previous verse u quoted,you had no idea about its content or what it actually means,dont talk on a matter with which u have little knowledge about
@Dark0Tricks I still haven't heard you condem the rape of this child and the rape of countless others by these Pakistani peace keepers. You are in denial.
Why don't you go and read the Hadiths instead of telling me they are wrong. These are not my words but the words of the people who lived around Muhammad.
I have more knowledge than you. All you can do is tell me I'm wrong without giving evidence of why !!!
@RockofEngland also i) The "authority" on the husband should not be thought of in terms of the authority of a ruler or a boss. The very personal nature of the relationship between husband and wife and the love and affection which must characterize that relationship (30:21) should be reflected in the way the husband exercises his authority. In particular, he should always fully take into account her feelings on every matter.
@RockofEngland In Islam, even rulers and bosses are ordered to take into account the views of those in their charge; in case of husbands this is all the more necessary and natural. Likewise, the obedience of the wife to the husband should also reflect the personal and tender nature of their relationship. In particular, it should not be a forced obedience but rather should come naturally out of her love and respect for the husband.
@RockofEngland ii) If a wife cannot sufficiently love and respect the husband to give him the obedience he expects, then she can, if she so chooses, seek a divorce which will necessarily be granted to her.
iii) The decision-making "authority" of the husband should be restricted to the area of responsibility (i.e. dealings with the society at large, family budget, etc.) and should not become all-pervasive.
@RockofEngland and rape was a serious issue that occurred in those times ( and still occurs today) in pretty much all nations esp. since women were treated like objects in many society's whether it was western or eastern nations
@Dark0Tricks The Qur'an teaches that women are objects.
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."
@Dark0Tricks Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse allows the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).
@Hellfireblogs men can't own women in Islam dowry is pre-requisite to marriage which the women imposes if she so wishes and also determines the amount , also women in Islam have had the right to divorce(since the start of islam) and all other normal rights and since Islam is a religion they can choose to leave it anytime , also there's a difference between culture and religion there are cultures where women are owned Islam how ever says women can not be owned and have much more rights then men
@Dark0Tricks So explain Saudi Arabia's problem with maids being raped, or Muslims selling women into sexual slavery. Didn't Mohammed himself take the wives of Jewish tribes he defeated as war booty? Didn't Muslims who rode with Mohamed keep captured women as slaves?
If Muslim women can leave a marriage anytime explain acid attacks, honor killings and like. If men and women are equal in Islam why are there no female on male honor killings?
@Hellfireblogs once again u need to realize the difference between culture and Islam,rape in Islam is wrong but 'Islamic' country's don't actually have to be 'Islamic', the same as how 'Christan's' can be serial killers or rapists and once again like i was telling RockofEngland neither he nor me have the qualifications for deriving meaning from the Quran esp transliterations, although i do have certain qualifications on matters, and the information u have is most likely from an unreliable source
@Dark0Tricks But Mohammad raped women. He raped the wives of the Jewish tribes he conquered when he "married" them the very night of their husbands murdered. Are you saying the Prophet was wrong? When Mohammad told his followers in which ways it was acceptable to have sex with captured slave women was he, the originator of Islam, misunderstanding it?
@Dark0Tricks And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess (Q. 4:24 )
And Safiyah, one of Mohammad's "wives" was married to Mohammad the day he had his forces kill her husband. I know a person like yourself (evil0 won't consider that rape but decent people do.
@Hellfireblogs the prophet only married those who consented the marriage .. i.e. he proposed to them if they, accepted he married them , as for his forces killing her husband i don't know about that matter,so i will go ask a shaikh , as for quoting the Quran,u need proper knowledge to understand Qurans full meaning,esp transliterations that's why Muslims learn Arabic,i implore u go take a Islamic course,from people like sunni path-com rather then reading transliterations as they are inept
@Dark0Tricks Are you really saying you believe a woman whose husband was just murdered by Muslims hours before WANTED to marry the Prophet? You don't think she was forced to? Are you kidding?
By the way I have a degree in Comparative religion and studied Islam so just stop with the nonsense.
@Hellfireblogs like i said i don't know about that matter of her husband dieing hours before hand , and it is very possible that a women who's husband died hours before hand would willing marry someone else , there are many examples even in the modern world , tons in fact,just because someone is married doesn't mean there in a happy marriage, and a degree in Comparative religion is a very low religious qualification, and i have studied islam for 16 years , that does not make me or u a scholar !
@Dark0Tricks You're really just a horrible person aren't you? You're claiming that it's common for a woman whose husband was murdered would want to marry the murderer?
@Hellfireblogs it was quite typical of that time period, and that there are heaps of cases today (you obviously live in a protected western bubble), you also have to remember in those day's women had no right to divorce in few cultures if any, the fact that in war , POW - became the winners slaves, was also commonplace, a lot of marriages were arranged, and women were treated like objects, and had no rights, except in Islam and few other places (mainly older Christan cities)
@Hellfireblogs so it is not unbeliveable in times,were the whole society such as that of khaiber treated women like objects and they could not divorce but the husband could,its is not shocking that it's,possible for a women to marry another man after he has killed her husband,she was owned by her husband, and after the prophet had slain her husband,she could leave anytime,because she was a free women, and if she chooses to marry him, its her choice
@Hellfireblogs "for a woman whose husband was murdered would want to marry the murderer",this statement assumes the world is idealistic !, there have been cases were women have murdered or helped murder there husbands,in today's world if the injustice is discovered it is usually, made right-in 08 an Austrian man locked his daughter up in a basement for 24 yrs,were as in older times,since women were treated as objects war was the only means of stopping abuse of women by a whole community
@Hellfireblogs and yes Muslim women have the right to get a divorce or annulment. that does not mean that so called 'Muslim' men will allow it , they use Islam as an excuse to commit these acts, which in Islam are unlawful , but it works as an excuse because of ignorance and people mixing their culture with religion , and once again i will stress that it is not necessary that Muslim country's or people who claim to be Muslim act like Muslims
@RockofEngland once again u are not an expert scholar and taking transliterations from more then likely an unreliable source , u neither seem to have the Arabic qualifications to tell me what the Quran actually properly means and are just quoting transliterations nor the common sense for realizing ur once again deriving meanings from transliterations without the proper knowledge and also not all Hadith are authentic(i.e. they can be wrong) or strong hence why they all have chains of narration
@RockofEngland although you can quote what a 'traditionally' qualified ( as in they have a chain of teachers just like chain of Hadith/narration) have said on a particular topic or verse ... also online transliterations are good sources but at the same time they can be bad ones as there is no verification who has written the content (for most sites) and as such anyone should be careful were they get their information from
i might suggest you study the life of Muhammad, and read the Quran, but study the Hadiths. Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
@nosonnemondundsterne seriously how ignorant are u idiots ? .. Islam is a religion... (a) it does not condone raping (b) just because someone claims to be Muslim doesn't mean they have to act like a Muslim .. it's the same as any other religion such a catholic/christen serial killer .. just cause a serial killer is catholic doesn't mean that the catholic religion condones serial killings
Google: Bacha Bazi It means 'boy play' (not sure what language) and is used in Afghanistan/Pakistan. PBS has a documentary named just that and will make you want to destroy scum such as seen in the film. Basically a guy pretends to be interested in 'bacha bazi' and is allowed to film the actvities of these sick fucks. They dress the boys up like girls, teach them to dance/sing, and then rooms full of men sit and watch them, while looking pretty sick. They do more than that though
This is wrong but don't bash all the Pakistani solider for this, in Iraq their have been 50,000 rape cases still unanswered for by American and NATO forces, India has so many rape and child abuse cases that its banned from any more foreign UN work. 99.9% of Pakistanis are not like the ones in this video but heck BBC likes being biased an only shows the few bad fuckers who should be stripped of their duty.
Khan12078 4 days ago
Pakistani fuckers they should be killed and raped themselves.
omarsami1 3 months ago
Small suggestion.Indians make the largest contingent of UN peackeepers.The Indian army is answerable unlike in pakistan.Therefore they are highly disciplined(more than western troops too,forget pakistan).The solution to this is kick the paki out of Sudan,Congo and other areas where peacekeepers operate and bring more Indians in.Period!
This is extremely perverted and nothing better than what is expected from rabid muslims.Fucking paki muslim animals have treated Indian POW's in the past(kargil)
cillantro 9 months ago
If true , those 10 traitors should be shot.
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chingy3227 10 months ago 4
the biggest rate of raping children and humans is in america....
drtariqwahab 10 months ago
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aminzed1 1 year ago
It wouldn´t have been sent at News if the rapers were no muslims...
trolly27 1 year ago
A FALSE REPORT TO MALIGN PAK ARMY!!
FAIL!!
DotDlls 1 year ago
@DotDlls No false propoganda here:
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Shab772 5 months ago
.....nor UN has informed Pakistan about involvement of any Pakistani peacekeeper in any such incident. The Pakistan Army will take up the case with the UN and the Office of Oversight Investigation Service (OSIS) for detailed investigation of the matter and if the report proves to be false, the army is liable to take legal action against the channel, ISPR added.
A FALSE REPORT TO MALIGN PAK ARMY!!
FAIL!!
DotDlls 1 year ago 2
.....in the area during that period. ISPR added that Pakistani peacekeepers were highly disciplined and motivated soldiers who were respected for their professionalism and dedication all over the world. It said that it was unfortunate that a television channel which claimed to be unbiased had broadcast a one-sided version of the report. It is another attempt to malign the Pakistan Army and UN Peacekeepers, the ISPR stressed. No such incident has been reported from mission area nor UN has
DotDlls 1 year ago 2
Pak peacekeepers not involved in child abuse: ISPR
RAWALPINDI: The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Tuesday denounced as mere propaganda a news report broadcast by BBC World that alleged the involvement of Pakistani peacekeepers in child abuse on the Ivory Coast. ISPR said investigations had found the report ‘malicious’ and ‘baseless’, adding the incident in question is nearly six months old and nothing was reported either formally or informally to any United Nations office...........
DotDlls 1 year ago 2
Being a Pakistan, i am ashamed to hear this story!
heykellie 1 year ago 2
UN Pakistan Army Peacekeepers in Africa molesting children? I wonder, why does ISPR block such news? and why our so-called, 'free' media takes up such issues.
akchishti 1 year ago
muslims can be scum,
just as people anywhere in the world can be.
damian82jp 1 year ago
Mohammed say in koran all Muslims are Brothers -
wat is with people else ? yes Islam is a Fachist religion
In koran stay dont take frends from other religions and you can take her money and you can lie wat is that for religion ?
is that true look in Internet look in koran you can read this
all people they are not muslim come too hell - than you can do wat you wont with them in this world
Raptorsky20 1 year ago
Idioten !!!!
94Jayd 1 year ago
Pakistan is one of the most vile countries in the world; the levels of prostitution there are shamefully the highest globally. Pakistan just has no idea how women should be treated
GeertWildersLoyalist 1 year ago
It's just the "religion of peace". As usual.
Moppy1965 1 year ago
but most africans would rather side with moslems since they think christianity is a white man's religion. Where is Farrakahn when you need him on this?
xtremixt1 1 year ago
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Normal! That is islam at it's best! Mohamed was a childfucker! So are his followers!
Muck Fuslims!!!
1234Krueger 1 year ago 7
@1234Krueger agreed
GeertWildersLoyalist 1 year ago
@1234Krueger u fuck hole,....motherfucking bastard .... keep ur fucking ass shut,...
926dynamite 1 year ago
Pakistan is not a Islamic country, It uses British laws and was created by the British...and to link a state with Islam is ignorance at the highest level..Note these Pakistani soldiers(Punjab(muslim regiments-British Tommies BBC doc.) also served the Christain British Empire/ Queen of England army before becoming part of Pakistani army, the were awarded Pakistan and its dictatorship by the English, white man..so they are still your soldiers..remember Paki army is an ally in the "war on Terror"
Bbubbo 1 year ago
The Punjabi(Muslim) regiments fought against the Ottoman Empire(Muslim Empire) plus other Muslim nation(Afghan-Anglo war 1, 2 and 3rd) alongside the British Army...and today they are buried in British graveyards and are serving the same white men as they did before 1947..GO do your research and see for yourself. British Lawyer and Agent Jinnah was made founder of Pakistan by the British, he did not know ISlamic laws nor cared for Islam, nor practiced Islam.
Bbubbo 1 year ago
@1234Krueger you are confused with Warren Jeffs! and the rest of the Catholics priests
garvaggio 4 months ago
@garvaggio Warren Jeffs is a Fundamentalist Mormon(FLDS) not Catholic. The FLDS are a nasty bunch who believe that young girls between 11 and 16 (maybe even younger) can be married to adult men in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and older in evil polygamous marriages. Once these babies start menstruation they are fair game for the dirty nasty old men in the religion.
StandedInUtah 3 months ago
@1234Krueger you r the big mother fuckers of ever . you dont know where is ur sister or mother tonight .you bloody raskal ,son of a beach ............
asad1545 4 months ago
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you r the big mother fuckers of ever . you dont know where is ur sister or mother tonight .you bloody raskal ,son of a beach ............2 ...........@1234Krueger
asad1545 4 months ago
Why is muslim-shit considered as human anyway in todays world ?
nomadatlan 1 year ago
Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them..."
Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland each verse of the Quran has contextual history that needs to be known and a lot of study years in fact before u can even begin to transliterate the Quran, most transliterations are inept and 'direct' hence why ur meant to learn Arabic instead of reading the transliteration , and just because u read the transliteration does not make u an expert on any sort on what the verse is referring to, unless ur a scholar who has studied it for many years and qualified don't quote the Quran
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is a command that Muhammad gave to himself, allowing himself unlimited sex. Others are limited to 4 wives, but may also have sex with an unlimited nbr of slaves.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland so you know which Hadiths people try to 'tamper' with as the chain of narration is inept and can be split into strong,alright,weak and not true,there is a huge problem in the Muslim world with 'common' Muslims or people taking info from what is not the consensus of the scholars and misinforming people,anything more then the fundamentals Muslims should not give advice,esp to non-Muslims about,as we don't have the proper knowledge which is becoming more of a problem due to the net
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
Its not people taking the Hadiths or Quran out of context, its the Hadiths and the Quran that preach this evil ideology called Islam and that people follow like the Pakistani Army in the above video.
Bukhari (62:137) - An account of women taken as slaves in battle by Muhammad's men after their husbands and fathers were killed. The woman were raped with Muhammad's approval.
These Muslims are following the Hadiths......
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland u can go ask any traditional scholar who has proper knowledge rather then reading transliterations by no one knows who and saying that it is legal in Islam to rape people , when it is not , these Muslims are not following Hadith < and some so called 'Hadith' are not actual Hadith, , Hadith has a system to stop people from calming things as hadiith that aren't , just because ill-informed people especially muslims count these as hadith does not make them so!
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
Okay, so you think I am lying. Go read the Hadiths that I've posted and check for yourself. I do not lie. The Hadiths are the testiment odf the followers of the paedo prophet Muhammad and the words of his deads put down onto paper.
Why I need an Immad to deceipher what it says in black and white is beyond me. I have a brain, I can read. What they say is irrefutable.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland also the quotation of that Hadith is definitely wrong , historically Arab's did things like, rape women , after they had 'won' them in battle , and some Muslim followers did this once they became Muslim, that specific Hadith u quoted talks about how they went to ask the prophet (rsaw) whether this was legal as he was at that battle , and he asked them thrice "Do you really do that?" and then condemned them for their actions
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
You say that Allah condemmed the rape of captive women after battle, although I don't know why a religion of "peace would go to battle, but the Qur'an says different to you:)
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland seriously if ur gonna quote something quote it right that verse say's "Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first),
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks "The Qur'an and authentic ahadith do not command women to be obedient to their husbands, so that it is not a sin on their part if they sometime do not listen to their husbands. The Qur'an and Hadith consider obedience to the husband as simply a desirable quality of the wife" , "Since men are qawwamun over their wives, they must have some authority to make decisions, for a person cannot be an effective guardian or maintainer of someone without having some decision making authority."
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland (next) separate them in beds. But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great. (4:34)
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks Surra 38.44 " And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it and do not break your oath."
Thats right DarkTricks, don't break your oath to Allah break your womens disobedience instead...
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland the word in this verse that is used for the man (guarding) is qawwamun which in short is someone who is continuously guarding, maintain or taking care of something(a house etc) or someone(children, wife etc) in a proper and fair manner
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland "also form the statement God has favored some more than others in some ways we should not conclude, as many careless readers of the Qur'an do, that Islam views men superior to women. For this statement does not exclude the possibility that in some other ways women may be favored more than men"
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks Bukhari (62:58) - A woman presents herself in marriage to Muhammad, but he does not find her attractive, so he "donates" her on the spot to another man.
Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'"
Abu Dawud (2155) - Women are compared to slaves and camels with regard to the "evil" in them.
You are right, your religion certainly made men more equal then women.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland just quoting hadiths is pointless , as before it is very possible u did not quote them correctly , as i showed before , also ur knowledge of islam is minimal hence why u quote transliterations without an explanation for them , explanations are very important as anything transliterated loses a vast majority of its context and meaning ! hence why they come with explanations
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks I have given the Hadith number for you to go and check, I have given the Quranic passage for you to go and check, all you have done is say I'm wrong and that I'm not entitled to read them because I'm not an Iman.
I suggest you source then for your self. Surely you have a brain and can think your self and you don't need some body else to do it for you. unlike you I am not a slave to an others thought process.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland i gave u an explanation for one if i gave it to u for every one it'd be 15+ pages long , i did correct ur quotation 4 - 5 hadiths ago, and i have said quoting the Quran and Hadith , to others ie publicly without proper explanation is not to be done not that u cannot read it privately, and i did check most of these verse such as the one were u said the prophet condoned rape
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
Your explaination... You said only Imans are allowed to translate Hadiths and the Qur'an. Are you saying that you are an Iman?
Unlike you I let people make their own minds up, rather than bainwashing them by telling them that this means that and this means this and if you don't believe then you are stupid !!!.
The prophet did condone rape. Are you going to condem this, I'm still waiting for you to condem the rape in the video....
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland side note i did (a) condemn rape in this video, and also made a point that rape is a serious problem in today's world (b) i said direct quotes of the quran with out explanation - in relation to qutoing quran to others < , and i am not brainwashing u , if someone writes something and says this is what it means, are you going to tell that person his wrong? im not brainwashing people , the quran has a specific meaning, it is not a poem,etc that people should interpret how they want
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland which was quoted incorrectly, for the one with 'obedience' to husband i gave u a proper explanation, for u to just throw hadiths at people, esp when u have read it in a translated format, and then say i am wrong when this is a religion i practice everyday and study at least 8 times a week (with proper teachers), it would be logical when i tell u , rape is not condone in islam u believe that person , just like u would believe a chemist on what 2 reactive agents would do if mixed
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks You say rape s not condoned in Islam but it is.
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
Raping of the women, (slaves) who have their men folk killed is known as War Booty. Why are you lying ?
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland "To answer this question, it should first be remarked that Islam has tolerated slavery but has never approved of it, and that all its teachings and prescriptions in this regard lead to its alleviation as far as possible in the short term, and, in the longer term, conduce to its progressive suppression. To abolish it would have been impossible in a world in which it was generally practiced by all the states which bordered on the new Muslim empire"
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland second all salves had to be given equal right as their master , cloths, food, status , slave were allowed to buy them self and the ,master could not refuse, salves were only allowed to be enemy's i.e. Prisoners Of War , following a lawful war, thirdly women could not be raped , and fourthly since the Ottoman Caliphate slavery in islam is prohibited
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland also why would u want to believe that rape is acceptable in islam because u are pretty much arguing against me that rape is not condemned in islam and that women don't have rights, why would u argue that ? and ur finding specific verse which u haven't explained and said that this verse means ur allowed to rape,and i'm not a slave to other thoughts processes,i chose i islam by my own will, and am very logical,and have a brain.
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland so as i have said repeatedly you may know how to read English,but the Quran is NOT meant to be read in English,the English is there as a GUIDE to people who aren't well versed(most pplz)and in books come with commentary explaining the verse, and as most people like you read the Quran from the net were the person who made the site has no idea what their doing they become mis-informed,that short verse is actually explained in 2 pages, so there is a lot more to it then u think
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
Okay forget the Qur'an, if according to you only Imans are allowed to translate it. Look at the video. Look at Darfur, Somalia, evrrywhere Islam meets another culture we have violence, oppression, murder and rape. Theses are all condoned in the Qur'an.
To deny it is to deny the truth, the Islamic term for lying to save face for Islam is Al Taqiyya. You practice it, but the words of the Hadiths and in the Qur'an are eternal.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland
iv) The obedience of the wife to the husband, like all obedience in Islam, is only in what is right and proper. The wife can and indeed should disobey any improper, un-Islamic, command of the husband, e.g., if he commands her not to wear hijab.
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks You call it obedience I call it slavery.
Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland look mate very simply u have time and time again just quoted random stuff with out any explanation u have no idea what ur talking bout u said women have no right to divorce yet they do,ur not well versed in islam, as soon as i give u an explanation u 'want' to cling to another matter,which u have no understanding of as was seen by the previous verse u quoted,you had no idea about its content or what it actually means,dont talk on a matter with which u have little knowledge about
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks I still haven't heard you condem the rape of this child and the rape of countless others by these Pakistani peace keepers. You are in denial.
Why don't you go and read the Hadiths instead of telling me they are wrong. These are not my words but the words of the people who lived around Muhammad.
I have more knowledge than you. All you can do is tell me I'm wrong without giving evidence of why !!!
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland also i) The "authority" on the husband should not be thought of in terms of the authority of a ruler or a boss. The very personal nature of the relationship between husband and wife and the love and affection which must characterize that relationship (30:21) should be reflected in the way the husband exercises his authority. In particular, he should always fully take into account her feelings on every matter.
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland In Islam, even rulers and bosses are ordered to take into account the views of those in their charge; in case of husbands this is all the more necessary and natural. Likewise, the obedience of the wife to the husband should also reflect the personal and tender nature of their relationship. In particular, it should not be a forced obedience but rather should come naturally out of her love and respect for the husband.
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland ii) If a wife cannot sufficiently love and respect the husband to give him the obedience he expects, then she can, if she so chooses, seek a divorce which will necessarily be granted to her.
iii) The decision-making "authority" of the husband should be restricted to the area of responsibility (i.e. dealings with the society at large, family budget, etc.) and should not become all-pervasive.
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland and rape was a serious issue that occurred in those times ( and still occurs today) in pretty much all nations esp. since women were treated like objects in many society's whether it was western or eastern nations
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks The Qur'an teaches that women are objects.
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse allows the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).
RockofEngland 1 year ago
@RockofEngland Exactly. The Qur'an allows men to rape women they "own" by Islamic standards which includes literal slaves or women who work for you.
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs men can't own women in Islam dowry is pre-requisite to marriage which the women imposes if she so wishes and also determines the amount , also women in Islam have had the right to divorce(since the start of islam) and all other normal rights and since Islam is a religion they can choose to leave it anytime , also there's a difference between culture and religion there are cultures where women are owned Islam how ever says women can not be owned and have much more rights then men
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks So explain Saudi Arabia's problem with maids being raped, or Muslims selling women into sexual slavery. Didn't Mohammed himself take the wives of Jewish tribes he defeated as war booty? Didn't Muslims who rode with Mohamed keep captured women as slaves?
If Muslim women can leave a marriage anytime explain acid attacks, honor killings and like. If men and women are equal in Islam why are there no female on male honor killings?
spread your taqqiya somewhere else.
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs once again u need to realize the difference between culture and Islam,rape in Islam is wrong but 'Islamic' country's don't actually have to be 'Islamic', the same as how 'Christan's' can be serial killers or rapists and once again like i was telling RockofEngland neither he nor me have the qualifications for deriving meaning from the Quran esp transliterations, although i do have certain qualifications on matters, and the information u have is most likely from an unreliable source
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks But Mohammad raped women. He raped the wives of the Jewish tribes he conquered when he "married" them the very night of their husbands murdered. Are you saying the Prophet was wrong? When Mohammad told his followers in which ways it was acceptable to have sex with captured slave women was he, the originator of Islam, misunderstanding it?
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs from what source are u getting that Muhammad rsaw raped women ? because that certainly didn't happen
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess (Q. 4:24 )
And Safiyah, one of Mohammad's "wives" was married to Mohammad the day he had his forces kill her husband. I know a person like yourself (evil0 won't consider that rape but decent people do.
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs the prophet only married those who consented the marriage .. i.e. he proposed to them if they, accepted he married them , as for his forces killing her husband i don't know about that matter,so i will go ask a shaikh , as for quoting the Quran,u need proper knowledge to understand Qurans full meaning,esp transliterations that's why Muslims learn Arabic,i implore u go take a Islamic course,from people like sunni path-com rather then reading transliterations as they are inept
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks Are you really saying you believe a woman whose husband was just murdered by Muslims hours before WANTED to marry the Prophet? You don't think she was forced to? Are you kidding?
By the way I have a degree in Comparative religion and studied Islam so just stop with the nonsense.
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs like i said i don't know about that matter of her husband dieing hours before hand , and it is very possible that a women who's husband died hours before hand would willing marry someone else , there are many examples even in the modern world , tons in fact,just because someone is married doesn't mean there in a happy marriage, and a degree in Comparative religion is a very low religious qualification, and i have studied islam for 16 years , that does not make me or u a scholar !
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks You're really just a horrible person aren't you? You're claiming that it's common for a woman whose husband was murdered would want to marry the murderer?
Grow up.
Hellfireblogs 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs it was quite typical of that time period, and that there are heaps of cases today (you obviously live in a protected western bubble), you also have to remember in those day's women had no right to divorce in few cultures if any, the fact that in war , POW - became the winners slaves, was also commonplace, a lot of marriages were arranged, and women were treated like objects, and had no rights, except in Islam and few other places (mainly older Christan cities)
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs so it is not unbeliveable in times,were the whole society such as that of khaiber treated women like objects and they could not divorce but the husband could,its is not shocking that it's,possible for a women to marry another man after he has killed her husband,she was owned by her husband, and after the prophet had slain her husband,she could leave anytime,because she was a free women, and if she chooses to marry him, its her choice
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs "for a woman whose husband was murdered would want to marry the murderer",this statement assumes the world is idealistic !, there have been cases were women have murdered or helped murder there husbands,in today's world if the injustice is discovered it is usually, made right-in 08 an Austrian man locked his daughter up in a basement for 24 yrs,were as in older times,since women were treated as objects war was the only means of stopping abuse of women by a whole community
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks in 08 it was discovered an Austrian man locked his daughter up in a basement for 24 yrs*
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Hellfireblogs and yes Muslim women have the right to get a divorce or annulment. that does not mean that so called 'Muslim' men will allow it , they use Islam as an excuse to commit these acts, which in Islam are unlawful , but it works as an excuse because of ignorance and people mixing their culture with religion , and once again i will stress that it is not necessary that Muslim country's or people who claim to be Muslim act like Muslims
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland once again u are not an expert scholar and taking transliterations from more then likely an unreliable source , u neither seem to have the Arabic qualifications to tell me what the Quran actually properly means and are just quoting transliterations nor the common sense for realizing ur once again deriving meanings from transliterations without the proper knowledge and also not all Hadith are authentic(i.e. they can be wrong) or strong hence why they all have chains of narration
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@RockofEngland although you can quote what a 'traditionally' qualified ( as in they have a chain of teachers just like chain of Hadith/narration) have said on a particular topic or verse ... also online transliterations are good sources but at the same time they can be bad ones as there is no verification who has written the content (for most sites) and as such anyone should be careful were they get their information from
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
@Dark0Tricks
i might suggest you study the life of Muhammad, and read the Quran, but study the Hadiths. Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
RockofEngland 1 year ago
It is nothing new that muslims have a favour for raping. But it is seldomly reported in Europe. Thanks to the PC media.
nosonnemondundsterne 1 year ago 4
@nosonnemondundsterne seriously how ignorant are u idiots ? .. Islam is a religion... (a) it does not condone raping (b) just because someone claims to be Muslim doesn't mean they have to act like a Muslim .. it's the same as any other religion such a catholic/christen serial killer .. just cause a serial killer is catholic doesn't mean that the catholic religion condones serial killings
Dark0Tricks 1 year ago
muslims again????????
DuckingNDiving 1 year ago 3
That's Islam fer ya!
Wilbur665 1 year ago
This makes me absolutely sick. They should be executed for such a heinous crime.
Coupal1 1 year ago 2
Well if they were Muslim men that did this, then the girl is considered at fault, she will be jailed and beaten, and quite possibly killed.
Apocalips320 1 year ago 5
@Apocalips320
Google: Bacha Bazi It means 'boy play' (not sure what language) and is used in Afghanistan/Pakistan. PBS has a documentary named just that and will make you want to destroy scum such as seen in the film. Basically a guy pretends to be interested in 'bacha bazi' and is allowed to film the actvities of these sick fucks. They dress the boys up like girls, teach them to dance/sing, and then rooms full of men sit and watch them, while looking pretty sick. They do more than that though
IsoSafrole 4 months ago