this wasnt a reaction. Intentonal contamination of vaccines has been reported. out of 1000 vaccines. over 100 are purposely made to have this effect. Im no conspiracy theroist but im just saying look in to it. Swine flu ring any bells?? and how the vaccines were hurting more than they helped?
"Europe, U.S. ban Australia-made flu vaccine for kids" Aug.18, 2010
"The US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices did not want children aged nine and below to get the Afluria shot, the U.S. version of CSL's Fluvax, as the vaccine cause fibrile convulsions...
CSL's Fluvax is the only vaccine in the world that combines seasonal and swine flu strains.
"Finland Suspends Swine Flu Shots After Vaccine Linked With Neurological Disorder"
“The National Institute for Health and Welfare (THL) decided on Tuesday to recommend that vaccinations against swine flu with the Pandemrix vaccine should be suspended until it is established whether or not the vaccine is the cause of the surge in cases of narcolepsy among children and young people,” reports Finland’s largest newspaper Helsingin Sanomat.
The US website, VAERS, has published statistics of adverse reactions on ONLY ONE of the swine flu vaccines:
Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine
The most recent, May 7, 2010
11,029 reports
833 classified as "Serious Health Events" -defined as, "life-threatening or death, major disability, abnormal conditions at birth, hospitalization, or extension of existing hospitalization"
56 US deaths, all "under investigation"
VAERS is required to report on ALL flu vaccines, yet only report this one.
In case you don't know yet, this woman likely has Psychogenic Dystonia, not true Dystonia. Psychogenic means "originating in the mind". She's not faking it. She's has symptoms but they arent caused by the flu shot.
Visit the Dystonia Foundation website and take notice of 2 things. The first is the fact they have a page on "Psychogenic Dystonia", explaining what it is. The second is a page of treatments used for true Dystonia. There is no cure for true Dystonia.
Desire Jennings has just released a video where she is recieving "Hyberbolic Oxygen Therapy" (not listed as a treatment on the Dystonia Foundation website). She can now talk fine and seems to be recovering from "Oxygen Treatment".
well. I'm happy that she is recovering. it still isn't enough to make me want a flu shot. I'd rather not take the risk. there are other risks associated with the shots as well, other than her condition such as exposure to other chemicals used in the vaccines, ect.
Sorry, when profit is involved with vaccines, then I cannot trust one company that makes millions off of these things. If I get the flu and die.. so be it..
Look at it this way.. 1 less american to have to worry about healthcare
RonPaulvsTyranny: Let me see if I can sway you with my opinion, because I think most people are decent underneath and that sometimes they let fear get the best of them.
No vaccine is 100% safe and can never be. The key here is "acceptable risk", say 1 in a million or even billion is so low a a risk that the benefits from vaccines far outweighs no getting vaccines. For examples, with some disease your chance of GETTING & then dying from the disease is greater than dying from the vaccine....
(continued) so in those cases not getting the vaccine is an extremely poor decision.
Howeve, what role does morality play in vaccinations...because it does play a role.
People have been accustomed into thinking that it's perfectly okay not get vaccinations...But what happens if they spread a disease to other innocent people, say babies for example? Ex- small babies are too young for flu shots but can stil ge the flu. So how would you feel if you passed the virus on to baby who then died?
(continued) The problem is that most people don't think about these things at all and continue to exist in a naive position that not getting vaccinations is their right, when actually it's not. Here's why. If you trave out of country you must be vaccinated. In certain proffessions you must be vaccinated (It's not okay for healt care workers to pass on potentionally deadly diseases to their patients)
It is likely in the future you will have no say, you must be vaccinated.
(continued) Also, I don't know if you have ever had a bad flu or not, but when you do you want to kick yourself for not getting the shot. A week or more of misery could have been avoided by a mere injection.
In case you haven't had a flu shot before, let me give you the known side effects because people will lie and claim they had "bad reactions" when in fact it's a known side-effects...
lots of points here. Ok, i'm not debating the merits of all vaccinations. obviously some are beneficial; however, when does the desire for profit start to outweigh the moral concerns? I believe that annual vacinnations are not nessecery, not for something that can be prevented with good hygene. Instead of forcing everyone to have a shot, why not make sure everyoe has clean water, ect and the education on how to prevent spread of the virus. seems much better than forcing people to line up
The profit motivation and the control this gives the government is not something to take lightly. Also, I don't know if it's fair 2 compare, say smallpox vaccine, which something like a sesonal flu vaccine.
If the government isn't careful it's gonna create a "boy who cried wolf" scenerio and is gonna lose credibility on this issue.
The best way to combat this problem is with good education, and that is something that we as a nation are lacking. BUT plenty of money for war!
But thank you for sharing your experiance. Glad you didn't have serious side effects. I have had a flu shot once or twice, and I've only had the flu once or twice. I didn't have a shot last year, and I did get the flu for about 4 days, but honestly, I am glad I got it rather than the shot, because it allowed my immune system to build antibodies naturally, and that can last much longer than a year.. so getting sick is not always a bad thing. it can be, but not always.
Side effects: swelling and redness? Guess what, that's how your body kills stuff. And what's a vaccine? A dead or weak virus. Your body attacks it and learns how to beat the disease faster. And if she had simply gotten swine flu id bet money she'd been even worse off.
Your an idiot. ANY medication you take has the potential for side effects, even aspirin. Millions of people get the flu shot every year and very few suffer major side effects. The fact is more people DIE FROM THE FLU, than suffer major side effects of these vaccines. Quit buying into the fear mongering and conspiracies and use your brain. Your not helping anyone buy posting this garbage. The fact is of any medical procedure getting vaccinated is the safest and most effective.
Get in your car.. drive to walmart and get your fucking flu shot.. don't call me an idiot because I don't need one.. i take care of myself.. i workout, I eat right, and I have a strong immune system.. i don't need your fucking mercury filled (fact) vaccine to keep myself from getting sick for 3 or 4 days.. I don't need it.. and this 26y/o girl didn't need it either.. when the government starts taking mandatory vaccine, that's when I get pissed.. come and try to stick me prick.
Just because you "work out, eat right and have a strong immune system" does not mean you will catch the flu. I will call you an idiot because you are spreading propaganda. First off the flu shot is not mercury filled, the Thimerosal only has a trace amount. Your tap water probably has more Mercury. Not only that if you are so concerned about Mercury you can get the shot without Thimerosal. Also spreading the BS about the government forcing you to get a shot is another lie.
No one here is telling you to get the shot, however you are here insinuating people not to get the shot. I would say that is a bit hypocritical. The fact is you may not think you need it, but do not come on here spreading fear with half truths and flat out lies to scare someone who does need the shot from getting one. So I stand by my initial point, you are a fear mongering idiot. I will call out anyone who comes on here spreading lies, especially when it could have severe consequences.
Go ahead... enrich the pharmacutical companies.. the government took 3 billion of our tax money to buy 190 million doses of vaccines.
there is plenty of evidence out there that discredits the shots and the governments reasons for wanting to give them to everyone.. one only has to search and they will find it..
you are just preaching that the government is always right, and listen to them they only want to help you. sorry, but I don't truth them, and it's my right to have an opinion
3 Billion dollars is a small price, the cost could be much higher. When did I say you do not have a right to an opinion, I am telling you to be honest. Where is the evidence that discredits these shots? That is a lie. Vaccines have saved more lives than they have harmed, that is a fact. I love how you clowns have no evidence to back any of that up so you accuse us of being government tools. Every time I look up your evidence it is some anti Government conspiracy nonsense, that is not evidence.
Yes the STATE bill that expands the STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA measures in the event of a public health crisis. Honestly I do not agree with it because of the very vague language used in it. However it is a STATE bill and aren't you Libertarians all about STATE RIGHTS? I see nothing on the Federal level forcing vaccines and Federal laws trump state laws, you fail again. I have done my research and have stated only facts unlike you, try taking your own advice to heart.
"I don't want to be a guinea pig," said Orne Banks-Hopkins, 55, a clerical worker at Washington Hospital Center. "I don't think I should be forced to take something I don't want to take."
In New York they are trying to force health care workers to get it. The military is forced to get it. And that's 3 states, and don't forget WHO has declared pandemic lvl 6, and the UN can take control of any country in a Pandemic. Would it happen? i dunno, but the law is there.
you really need to state taking this stuff a little more seriously. The USA is broke and beholden to banks and foreign countries like china right now. We are not the finacial powerhouse that we use to be. Will the USA always be able to keep the UN out of our political system considering our debt and obligations?? two wars going on, ect. States setting up precedent for forced innoculation. it's serious, and unnessecery for everyone to have a flu shot. it's about money not health.
Now only if there were any proof that flu shots caused dystonia. There have been no cases where a flu shot caused dystonia. This is more likely a coincidental thing. Where whether she got the flu shot or not dystonia was going to happen. Or possible a psychosomatic response.
you are making quite a leap of faith with those assumptions.
to say that this is all in her head is not very compasionate. You hven't examined her, neither have those other assholes who claim this is psychosomatic.
Just because something has never been reported doesn't mean that it has never happened. there is a first time for everything.. maybe she only got this attention cause she is a cheerleader.. no one cares if a fat old person gets dystonia. it could happen more than u think,
I am not the one making leaps in logic. I am demanding evidence, I am demanding proof. You are the one who is saying that this was caused by the flu shot without evidence. I am saying that we need more evidence to say this was caused by the flu shot. You know who I would like to see on this segment? a doctor. I bet if she got hit by a bus after getting the flu shot you would claim flu shots caused bus accidents.
Nobody would car if a fat old person gets dystonia? some compassion you got there.
I never said that the flu shot caused this.. what I said is that just because something has never been reported doesn't mean it can't or has never happened..
THE FACT is.. that the flu shots CAN cause complications. look. if u want one so bad.. get in your fucking car and drive to walmart and get one. just don't try and force me to get one along with ur dumbass.
I have plenty of compassion for anyone affected by unnessery medical treatments. u r the one claiming its all in her head.
You aren't claiming that the flu shot did this? it is implicit in the title. "Thinking of getting a FLU SHOT?? Here a really good reasons why your shouldn't."
I never tried to force a flu shot on anyone. Don't just start making wild claims.
Now all this talk about compassion and you don't even realize that people could die over your paranoid misleading of people.
even if we say shots can cause dystonia, there have been 5 cases of dystonia following a flushot in 20 years. lets give a big benefit of the doubt and say there are twice that. that is 10 over the billion or so flu shots givin over that time.... statistically insignificant.
Lastly a psychogenic response is still a disease that needs to be taken seriously. I have compasion for her as I do with the person with multiple personalities and the one with clinical depression.
The words "flu shot" and "safe" were actually used in the same sentence by Rachel Lyncy, Manager, Inova Health Systems.(Notice her title isn't Doctor. Also Inova is one of the corp. that distributes the flu shot!)
Ya, because there are so many 'scientists' coming out and saying the flu shot is unsafe.
Lame. The only people that are blubbering about the flu shot are the alex jones loving, zeitgiest following, hippie, socialist, fascist, commie conspiracy nuts.
oo did you see a bbc horizon program that said that the shot miiight link to autism?
Ya, so, Thimerosal is banned in many US states. This is not an argument. They banned it out of fear and of inconclusive evidence.
There have since been studies that show no link between the two. It's just a bunch of fear mongering and arm chair chemists. If you're so afraid, get the nasal spray. The nasal spray has no Thimerosal at all. But the conspiracy nuts till still come up with reasons as to why you shouldnt get that either.
Why are you so angry? Are you pissed about your own vaccinations?
You should do more research in biology; no amount of mercury is safe it's an very toxic element to humans. It's banned in European countries not out of fear but for the public good, it's still legal here because of private interest.
"pissed about your own vaccinations"? riiight, i dont even know what that means... I'm angry because you're misleading people. 30,000 people a year die from the flu and you're here telling others not to get the shot because of "boogity boogity boo!"
ROFL! I like how razor removed his comment after yours...probably said something stupid and then realized that he was a dumb ass! As for razor's comment about fear mongering the government is the best at this. They are making such a huge hype about N1H1 even though more people this year have died from the regular flu than this one. I have never taken a flu shot and have not had the flu. I think I had the flu when I was in my early teens but that was it. Razor go ahead and believe the Government
I work for the fucking government. If you want to change anything, stop bitching, get off your ass and get active in politics. Stop sucking off alex jones, and that zeitgeist weirdo. "oh alex, tell me more about the flying saucers in area 51".
so you are complaining about people complaining instead of getting off their ass and doing something about it while you are sitting on your ass at home or the office, not doing anything except the same thing that you are complaining about...
WOW
yea.. you see ladies and gentlemen.. this is our government's employees right here.. fucking brilliant, eh?
Ok, so I just read your profile a little better. "Zeitgeist Terrorstorm, Endgame" are listed under your movies. So I now understand why you're on the attack.
it's sad you believe this shit. I like your channel, and I'm a huge Ron Paul supporter.
It's sad that I believe that flu shots are dangerous? Or is it sad that I don't believe everything the government tells me?? Maybe it's sad that I don't follow a mainstream religion like 80% of americans? Ot it's sad that i am an individualist and not a part of the herd.
No 1 documentary has all the facts, just like no one person has all the answers, but we must use our common sense and judgment to discern the facts from the world around us.
"I work for the fucking government" Well that ends my involvement in this conversation, you are probably so far up some elitists ass that you only see and smell the shit they give you. Just remember that if you segregate yourself from everyone but your precious government that when they come for you there will be no one to protect you or your rights!
Reminds me of Michael Myers from Halloween. He is coming back to kill ya. People don't realise how much money these companies are going to make of this. And what about those that invested in advance before these companies stock went out. When this thing first hit last year I called out Novavax and their stock shot through the roof over night and some in the government guess were invested in that company. Can we say profit at all costs?
It's like this, Airbags save lives right? Some airbags go off and kill or injure people that would have normally been fine, had the air bag not been installed.
Air bags prevent more injuries and deaths than they cause, however, making them a good thing.
The same thing is true with the flu shots. They save more lives than the screw up.
Yes, there are side effects and complications, but in the long run, you're better off getting them than running the risk of dying from the flu.
and where the fuck are you getting your numbers from? More people have died from the damn shot than people that have died from the flu. The shots have mercury in them for one...that is how they make them, so go ahead and get your shot, we can due with less morons!
Any evidence to back that up, or is that straight from your ass. There is probably more mercury in your food and drinking water than there is in the shot. Also if you are so concerned about the Mercury you can get the shot without the Thimerosal. Get off the Jenny McCarthy bandwagon you dumb ass.
it's dead flu virus and a preservative. The amount of preservative is tiny. Thiomersal caused a big controversy a few years back because it contains mercury, however, there is no causal relationship between Thiomersal and autism. It's free because it comes from the government.
Honestly, if you are worried about ingredients, you need to grow your own food! You'll get more mercury from shit you buy at the store, and your drinking water than from the flu shot.
You might as well use a gun mercury screws with your immune system. People that have been taking the sesonal flu shot are twice as likely to get the swine flu.
How can I worry about ingredients when they don't even provide ingredient lists. That's why they don't provide them.
Absolute Bull Shit , let's give all the flu shots to the politicians.
Free flu shots where? Maybe if you are on Medicaid or Medicare otherwise they are $25.00 to $30.00 for each shot.
Google dipshit, do you speak it? Your doctor or pharmacist can tell you exactly what is in the shot. But stay away from the conspiracy sites, us agents of the Government do not want you to know about the secret chip.
"for seniors the flu shot fucks up their immune system." Absolute Bullshit, it boosts their Immune system, it is obvious you know jack shit about medicine.
"Ask for an ingredient list , they won't have one handy." You would not know that because you do not get the flu shot. Google tells you too.
God I hope this is a troll. Dying from the flu? The odds of somebody dying from the flu without a pre-existing condition as an adult are slim to none. If you truly think this young lady ruining her life for a flu vaccine is worth the risk then you are a fool.
I guess the good thing in all of this is that you people wont get the flu shot. Thus increasing your risk of dying from the virus, and weeding your stupid ignorant asses out of our population.
Proof: I'm not even going to answer that. It's so fucking stupid easy for you to find empirical evidence, solid studies, from reputable sources, that you even asking me is a waste of my time.
Just because the Pentagon messes up doesnt mean that the whole government is fucked. Pentagon =/= CDC !
Name one thing the gov has done right?...the RUS Rural Utilities Service....wow that was hard.
"Proof: I'm not even going to answer that. It's so fucking stupid easy for you to find empirical evidence, solid studies, from reputable sources, that you even asking me is a waste of my time."
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, FLU SHOTS KILL AND HAVE 0 BENEFIT.
"The Federal Reserve is destroying the country called USA by counterfeiting its money supply into oblivion.
The flu shot is to cull the herd before the citizens start waking up to that FACT. "-boots920
And is this before or after the aliens come down? What part with the Illuminati and the secret NWO underground play? Will FEMA kill us all off or will it be the military. Are you sure indiana jones won't save us from it all? bwahahahaha, loser.
See, and this is where the problem lies. There is a serious problem with the fed. And we're trying to get the word out there. Hopefull hr1207 passes. But then you mix real problems with your fantasy shit and people just look at all of it as bullshit.
But you never answered my question about the aliens man! maybe it was them that made the flu virus...the greys... ya, they're all out to get us. LOL!
After reading all this kids posts obvious troll is obvious nobody is stupid enough to actually buy into this shit, and if it's not a troll I nominate him for the Darwin Awards.
That totally sucks, poor girl, but since when have we regarded FAUX NOISE as news? Sounds like they just hopped on the Daily Paul and started pandering some of our own threads to us to gain our support...
this wasnt a reaction. Intentonal contamination of vaccines has been reported. out of 1000 vaccines. over 100 are purposely made to have this effect. Im no conspiracy theroist but im just saying look in to it. Swine flu ring any bells?? and how the vaccines were hurting more than they helped?
RacelandRam10 1 year ago
"Europe, U.S. ban Australia-made flu vaccine for kids" Aug.18, 2010
"The US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices did not want children aged nine and below to get the Afluria shot, the U.S. version of CSL's Fluvax, as the vaccine cause fibrile convulsions...
CSL's Fluvax is the only vaccine in the world that combines seasonal and swine flu strains.
It is approved by the World Health Organization."
ibtimes . com/contents/20100818/europes- ban-australia-made-flu-vaccine -kids.htm
silkcat51 1 year ago
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"Finland Suspends Swine Flu Shots After Vaccine Linked With Neurological Disorder"
“The National Institute for Health and Welfare (THL) decided on Tuesday to recommend that vaccinations against swine flu with the Pandemrix vaccine should be suspended until it is established whether or not the vaccine is the cause of the surge in cases of narcolepsy among children and young people,” reports Finland’s largest newspaper Helsingin Sanomat.
silkcat51 1 year ago
The US website, VAERS, has published statistics of adverse reactions on ONLY ONE of the swine flu vaccines:
Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine
The most recent, May 7, 2010
11,029 reports
833 classified as "Serious Health Events" -defined as, "life-threatening or death, major disability, abnormal conditions at birth, hospitalization, or extension of existing hospitalization"
56 US deaths, all "under investigation"
VAERS is required to report on ALL flu vaccines, yet only report this one.
silkcat51 1 year ago
....Stupid propogandic fucks.
Rayvn7 1 year ago
That's weird, she runs fine & talks perfect while running... WTF!!!!!!
nasty93cc 1 year ago
I aint never taking a flu shot.....
Is this real??
Looks real to.. I believe it is real....
nasty93cc 1 year ago
what the there nothing wrong with it i got the shot your arm just hurts that is it and some affects are chest pain, its good for me
manphy4 2 years ago
There is a reason why small pox no longer exist. It's called vaccines.
MorioKun1 2 years ago
god damnit
it even says in the description of this video
"rare neurological disorder"
RARE and not COMMON
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
so you are saying "get the shot?"
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
not everyone of course
at first get a check if there might be an alergic reaction and if not...
sure, why not?
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
because it lines the pockets of corporatist scumbags.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
In case you don't know yet, this woman likely has Psychogenic Dystonia, not true Dystonia. Psychogenic means "originating in the mind". She's not faking it. She's has symptoms but they arent caused by the flu shot.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
Do you have medical data to back up that claim?
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Visit the Dystonia Foundation website and take notice of 2 things. The first is the fact they have a page on "Psychogenic Dystonia", explaining what it is. The second is a page of treatments used for true Dystonia. There is no cure for true Dystonia.
Desire Jennings has just released a video where she is recieving "Hyberbolic Oxygen Therapy" (not listed as a treatment on the Dystonia Foundation website). She can now talk fine and seems to be recovering from "Oxygen Treatment".
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
well. I'm happy that she is recovering. it still isn't enough to make me want a flu shot. I'd rather not take the risk. there are other risks associated with the shots as well, other than her condition such as exposure to other chemicals used in the vaccines, ect.
Sorry, when profit is involved with vaccines, then I cannot trust one company that makes millions off of these things. If I get the flu and die.. so be it..
Look at it this way.. 1 less american to have to worry about healthcare
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
RonPaulvsTyranny: Let me see if I can sway you with my opinion, because I think most people are decent underneath and that sometimes they let fear get the best of them.
No vaccine is 100% safe and can never be. The key here is "acceptable risk", say 1 in a million or even billion is so low a a risk that the benefits from vaccines far outweighs no getting vaccines. For examples, with some disease your chance of GETTING & then dying from the disease is greater than dying from the vaccine....
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued) so in those cases not getting the vaccine is an extremely poor decision.
Howeve, what role does morality play in vaccinations...because it does play a role.
People have been accustomed into thinking that it's perfectly okay not get vaccinations...But what happens if they spread a disease to other innocent people, say babies for example? Ex- small babies are too young for flu shots but can stil ge the flu. So how would you feel if you passed the virus on to baby who then died?
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued) The problem is that most people don't think about these things at all and continue to exist in a naive position that not getting vaccinations is their right, when actually it's not. Here's why. If you trave out of country you must be vaccinated. In certain proffessions you must be vaccinated (It's not okay for healt care workers to pass on potentionally deadly diseases to their patients)
It is likely in the future you will have no say, you must be vaccinated.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued) Also, I don't know if you have ever had a bad flu or not, but when you do you want to kick yourself for not getting the shot. A week or more of misery could have been avoided by a mere injection.
In case you haven't had a flu shot before, let me give you the known side effects because people will lie and claim they had "bad reactions" when in fact it's a known side-effects...
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued)
Known side-effects of the flu shot:
(Note that all of these side-effects disappear after a couple of days.)
1.) Pain in the injection site (After a few hours it will begin to feel as if somebody punched you in the arm.)
2.) Lump at injection site (only some people develop this.)
3.) Mild Fever
4.) Headaches & Bodyaches
5.) Crankiness (Bitchiness)
If you are allergic to eggs, do not get the flue shot.
Otherwise, consider the shot to avoid getting the flu this year.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
(continued) I will end on my experiences with the flu shot. This would be the seasonal flu shot as the H1N1 is not yet available in my area.
1.) About 5 hours or so after I got the shot I realized it felt like somebody punched me in the arm.
2.) i developed a mild fever, just some chills, but nothing serious. Took some advil and was fine.
3.) Backache (later that night, before bed & lasting until later the next evening when it went away.)
All symptons gone by end of 2nd day.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
lots of points here. Ok, i'm not debating the merits of all vaccinations. obviously some are beneficial; however, when does the desire for profit start to outweigh the moral concerns? I believe that annual vacinnations are not nessecery, not for something that can be prevented with good hygene. Instead of forcing everyone to have a shot, why not make sure everyoe has clean water, ect and the education on how to prevent spread of the virus. seems much better than forcing people to line up
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
(continued)
The profit motivation and the control this gives the government is not something to take lightly. Also, I don't know if it's fair 2 compare, say smallpox vaccine, which something like a sesonal flu vaccine.
If the government isn't careful it's gonna create a "boy who cried wolf" scenerio and is gonna lose credibility on this issue.
The best way to combat this problem is with good education, and that is something that we as a nation are lacking. BUT plenty of money for war!
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
But thank you for sharing your experiance. Glad you didn't have serious side effects. I have had a flu shot once or twice, and I've only had the flu once or twice. I didn't have a shot last year, and I did get the flu for about 4 days, but honestly, I am glad I got it rather than the shot, because it allowed my immune system to build antibodies naturally, and that can last much longer than a year.. so getting sick is not always a bad thing. it can be, but not always.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Side effects: swelling and redness? Guess what, that's how your body kills stuff. And what's a vaccine? A dead or weak virus. Your body attacks it and learns how to beat the disease faster. And if she had simply gotten swine flu id bet money she'd been even worse off.
grandobsidian 2 years ago
wow.. you must have been watching good morning america. good job on watching the news and then repeating what you heard.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
syke.
CareBear2157 2 years ago
that's shitty what a beautiful girl what a shame
greyyfz450 2 years ago
yo why would she get the flu shot at a grocery store? i never heard of that why would someone do something like that? smfh
deitchy87 2 years ago
Your an idiot. ANY medication you take has the potential for side effects, even aspirin. Millions of people get the flu shot every year and very few suffer major side effects. The fact is more people DIE FROM THE FLU, than suffer major side effects of these vaccines. Quit buying into the fear mongering and conspiracies and use your brain. Your not helping anyone buy posting this garbage. The fact is of any medical procedure getting vaccinated is the safest and most effective.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
Get in your car.. drive to walmart and get your fucking flu shot.. don't call me an idiot because I don't need one.. i take care of myself.. i workout, I eat right, and I have a strong immune system.. i don't need your fucking mercury filled (fact) vaccine to keep myself from getting sick for 3 or 4 days.. I don't need it.. and this 26y/o girl didn't need it either.. when the government starts taking mandatory vaccine, that's when I get pissed.. come and try to stick me prick.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Just because you "work out, eat right and have a strong immune system" does not mean you will catch the flu. I will call you an idiot because you are spreading propaganda. First off the flu shot is not mercury filled, the Thimerosal only has a trace amount. Your tap water probably has more Mercury. Not only that if you are so concerned about Mercury you can get the shot without Thimerosal. Also spreading the BS about the government forcing you to get a shot is another lie.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
No one here is telling you to get the shot, however you are here insinuating people not to get the shot. I would say that is a bit hypocritical. The fact is you may not think you need it, but do not come on here spreading fear with half truths and flat out lies to scare someone who does need the shot from getting one. So I stand by my initial point, you are a fear mongering idiot. I will call out anyone who comes on here spreading lies, especially when it could have severe consequences.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
Go ahead... enrich the pharmacutical companies.. the government took 3 billion of our tax money to buy 190 million doses of vaccines.
there is plenty of evidence out there that discredits the shots and the governments reasons for wanting to give them to everyone.. one only has to search and they will find it..
you are just preaching that the government is always right, and listen to them they only want to help you. sorry, but I don't truth them, and it's my right to have an opinion
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
3 Billion dollars is a small price, the cost could be much higher. When did I say you do not have a right to an opinion, I am telling you to be honest. Where is the evidence that discredits these shots? That is a lie. Vaccines have saved more lives than they have harmed, that is a fact. I love how you clowns have no evidence to back any of that up so you accuse us of being government tools. Every time I look up your evidence it is some anti Government conspiracy nonsense, that is not evidence.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
google:
"Pennsylvania House Bill 492 - Emergency Health Powers Act"
or
"Battle Over Mandatory Vaccinations Heats Up"
do you fucking research before you come on my page talking shit
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Yes the STATE bill that expands the STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA measures in the event of a public health crisis. Honestly I do not agree with it because of the very vague language used in it. However it is a STATE bill and aren't you Libertarians all about STATE RIGHTS? I see nothing on the Federal level forcing vaccines and Federal laws trump state laws, you fail again. I have done my research and have stated only facts unlike you, try taking your own advice to heart.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
you don't see it yet.
"I don't want to be a guinea pig," said Orne Banks-Hopkins, 55, a clerical worker at Washington Hospital Center. "I don't think I should be forced to take something I don't want to take."
In New York they are trying to force health care workers to get it. The military is forced to get it. And that's 3 states, and don't forget WHO has declared pandemic lvl 6, and the UN can take control of any country in a Pandemic. Would it happen? i dunno, but the law is there.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
you really need to state taking this stuff a little more seriously. The USA is broke and beholden to banks and foreign countries like china right now. We are not the finacial powerhouse that we use to be. Will the USA always be able to keep the UN out of our political system considering our debt and obligations?? two wars going on, ect. States setting up precedent for forced innoculation. it's serious, and unnessecery for everyone to have a flu shot. it's about money not health.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Now only if there were any proof that flu shots caused dystonia. There have been no cases where a flu shot caused dystonia. This is more likely a coincidental thing. Where whether she got the flu shot or not dystonia was going to happen. Or possible a psychosomatic response.
nospacesallowed 2 years ago
you are making quite a leap of faith with those assumptions.
to say that this is all in her head is not very compasionate. You hven't examined her, neither have those other assholes who claim this is psychosomatic.
Just because something has never been reported doesn't mean that it has never happened. there is a first time for everything.. maybe she only got this attention cause she is a cheerleader.. no one cares if a fat old person gets dystonia. it could happen more than u think,
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
I am not the one making leaps in logic. I am demanding evidence, I am demanding proof. You are the one who is saying that this was caused by the flu shot without evidence. I am saying that we need more evidence to say this was caused by the flu shot. You know who I would like to see on this segment? a doctor. I bet if she got hit by a bus after getting the flu shot you would claim flu shots caused bus accidents.
Nobody would car if a fat old person gets dystonia? some compassion you got there.
nospacesallowed 2 years ago
I never said that the flu shot caused this.. what I said is that just because something has never been reported doesn't mean it can't or has never happened..
THE FACT is.. that the flu shots CAN cause complications. look. if u want one so bad.. get in your fucking car and drive to walmart and get one. just don't try and force me to get one along with ur dumbass.
I have plenty of compassion for anyone affected by unnessery medical treatments. u r the one claiming its all in her head.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
You aren't claiming that the flu shot did this? it is implicit in the title. "Thinking of getting a FLU SHOT?? Here a really good reasons why your shouldn't."
I never tried to force a flu shot on anyone. Don't just start making wild claims.
Now all this talk about compassion and you don't even realize that people could die over your paranoid misleading of people.
nospacesallowed 2 years ago
even if we say shots can cause dystonia, there have been 5 cases of dystonia following a flushot in 20 years. lets give a big benefit of the doubt and say there are twice that. that is 10 over the billion or so flu shots givin over that time.... statistically insignificant.
Lastly a psychogenic response is still a disease that needs to be taken seriously. I have compasion for her as I do with the person with multiple personalities and the one with clinical depression.
nospacesallowed 2 years ago
She must sue the pharmaceutical company that made her flu shot. Also sue the grocery store and the FDA for obvious reasons.
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 2 years ago
i would do her
sandysuicide 2 years ago
I am sure Johns Hopkins will take good care of her. There is no better place.
focus21x 2 years ago
The words "flu shot" and "safe" were actually used in the same sentence by Rachel Lyncy, Manager, Inova Health Systems.(Notice her title isn't Doctor. Also Inova is one of the corp. that distributes the flu shot!)
RevJoshua 2 years ago
Ya, because there are so many 'scientists' coming out and saying the flu shot is unsafe.
Lame. The only people that are blubbering about the flu shot are the alex jones loving, zeitgiest following, hippie, socialist, fascist, commie conspiracy nuts.
oo did you see a bbc horizon program that said that the shot miiight link to autism?
you people are seriously dumb.
razorflown2 2 years ago 2
Flu shots aren't free if idiots want to take them charge them full price.
How many would ?
boots920 2 years ago
Thimerosol is banned in Europe and Japan. They didn't do that for the hell of it.
spectre1234 2 years ago
Ya, so, Thimerosal is banned in many US states. This is not an argument. They banned it out of fear and of inconclusive evidence.
There have since been studies that show no link between the two. It's just a bunch of fear mongering and arm chair chemists. If you're so afraid, get the nasal spray. The nasal spray has no Thimerosal at all. But the conspiracy nuts till still come up with reasons as to why you shouldnt get that either.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Why are you so angry? Are you pissed about your own vaccinations?
You should do more research in biology; no amount of mercury is safe it's an very toxic element to humans. It's banned in European countries not out of fear but for the public good, it's still legal here because of private interest.
spectre1234 2 years ago
"pissed about your own vaccinations"? riiight, i dont even know what that means... I'm angry because you're misleading people. 30,000 people a year die from the flu and you're here telling others not to get the shot because of "boogity boogity boo!"
Go somewhere else to spread your stupid.
razorflown2 2 years ago
lol
Remind me again when I said for people not to get the flu shot?
Infact show me where I even mentioned the flu shot at all.
spectre1234 2 years ago
ROFL! I like how razor removed his comment after yours...probably said something stupid and then realized that he was a dumb ass! As for razor's comment about fear mongering the government is the best at this. They are making such a huge hype about N1H1 even though more people this year have died from the regular flu than this one. I have never taken a flu shot and have not had the flu. I think I had the flu when I was in my early teens but that was it. Razor go ahead and believe the Government
rabbit2110 2 years ago
I work for the fucking government. If you want to change anything, stop bitching, get off your ass and get active in politics. Stop sucking off alex jones, and that zeitgeist weirdo. "oh alex, tell me more about the flying saucers in area 51".
razorflown2 2 years ago
freedom of speech ya spook.
if one wants to complain it is their right.. don't like it?? then burn the constitution! oh wait.. your bosses are already working on that.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
Exactly, freedom of speech. It gives me the right to argue against this ridiculous claim.
This is what free speech is all about. I never said anything against free speech. Free speech: I'm exercising it.
razorflown2 2 years ago
I'm complaining about their complaining. And to claim that my bosses are working to burn the constitution is ignorant.
razorflown2 2 years ago
so you are complaining about people complaining instead of getting off their ass and doing something about it while you are sitting on your ass at home or the office, not doing anything except the same thing that you are complaining about...
WOW
yea.. you see ladies and gentlemen.. this is our government's employees right here.. fucking brilliant, eh?
No wonder government sucks at everything it does.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
huh? This is stupid. It's sunday....
razorflown2 2 years ago
Ok, so I just read your profile a little better. "Zeitgeist Terrorstorm, Endgame" are listed under your movies. So I now understand why you're on the attack.
it's sad you believe this shit. I like your channel, and I'm a huge Ron Paul supporter.
razorflown2 2 years ago
It's sad that I believe that flu shots are dangerous? Or is it sad that I don't believe everything the government tells me?? Maybe it's sad that I don't follow a mainstream religion like 80% of americans? Ot it's sad that i am an individualist and not a part of the herd.
No 1 documentary has all the facts, just like no one person has all the answers, but we must use our common sense and judgment to discern the facts from the world around us.
It's sad to me that you don't understand that.
RonPaulvsTyranny 2 years ago
"I work for the fucking government" Well that ends my involvement in this conversation, you are probably so far up some elitists ass that you only see and smell the shit they give you. Just remember that if you segregate yourself from everyone but your precious government that when they come for you there will be no one to protect you or your rights!
rabbit2110 2 years ago
"I work for the fucking government"
In what department, vaccine manufacturing or Goebbels dept of mind fucking ?
boots920 2 years ago
Reminds me of Michael Myers from Halloween. He is coming back to kill ya. People don't realise how much money these companies are going to make of this. And what about those that invested in advance before these companies stock went out. When this thing first hit last year I called out Novavax and their stock shot through the roof over night and some in the government guess were invested in that company. Can we say profit at all costs?
Hopefl1 2 years ago
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razorflown2 2 years ago
Untested Live Virus shot up into your brain ?
boots920 2 years ago
It's like this, Airbags save lives right? Some airbags go off and kill or injure people that would have normally been fine, had the air bag not been installed.
Air bags prevent more injuries and deaths than they cause, however, making them a good thing.
The same thing is true with the flu shots. They save more lives than the screw up.
Yes, there are side effects and complications, but in the long run, you're better off getting them than running the risk of dying from the flu.
razorflown2 2 years ago
and where the fuck are you getting your numbers from? More people have died from the damn shot than people that have died from the flu. The shots have mercury in them for one...that is how they make them, so go ahead and get your shot, we can due with less morons!
rabbit2110 2 years ago
You need to take a college level biology class. You're a moron. Get some facts.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Any evidence to back that up, or is that straight from your ass. There is probably more mercury in your food and drinking water than there is in the shot. Also if you are so concerned about the Mercury you can get the shot without the Thimerosal. Get off the Jenny McCarthy bandwagon you dumb ass.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
What a bunch of bull crap...
How come there's no ingredient lists available.
Flu shot there's a reason why they're free...
boots920 2 years ago
it's dead flu virus and a preservative. The amount of preservative is tiny. Thiomersal caused a big controversy a few years back because it contains mercury, however, there is no causal relationship between Thiomersal and autism. It's free because it comes from the government.
Honestly, if you are worried about ingredients, you need to grow your own food! You'll get more mercury from shit you buy at the store, and your drinking water than from the flu shot.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Thimerosol=Mercury
You might as well use a gun mercury screws with your immune system. People that have been taking the sesonal flu shot are twice as likely to get the swine flu.
How can I worry about ingredients when they don't even provide ingredient lists. That's why they don't provide them.
Absolute Bull Shit , let's give all the flu shots to the politicians.
boots920 2 years ago
Free flu shots where? Maybe if you are on Medicaid or Medicare otherwise they are $25.00 to $30.00 for each shot.
Google dipshit, do you speak it? Your doctor or pharmacist can tell you exactly what is in the shot. But stay away from the conspiracy sites, us agents of the Government do not want you to know about the secret chip.
brokensoul70 2 years ago
Medicaid or Medicare - for seniors the flu shot fucks up their immune system.
Ask for an ingredient list , they won't have one handy.
Flu shots cause more harm than good so do taxpayers have any say ? Just askin here, where's the studies there are none. Total bull shit....
boots920 2 years ago
"for seniors the flu shot fucks up their immune system." Absolute Bullshit, it boosts their Immune system, it is obvious you know jack shit about medicine.
"Ask for an ingredient list , they won't have one handy." You would not know that because you do not get the flu shot. Google tells you too.
Seasonal Flu Vaccine...
Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
trivalent influenza virus, types A&B
gentamicin sulphate formadehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) chick embryonic fluid
Havrix
brokensoul70 2 years ago
First , where's your 3 year study ? On H1N1 ?
Thimerosoal = Mercury, mercury fucks up your immune system.
Ask any natural path they spend most of their time trying to fix the problems of frickin free flu shots.
Its absolute GARBAGE and the government has no right to buy it on BEHALF OF THE TAXPAYERS.
boots920 2 years ago
your not suppose to get the flu shot?....Why if you don't mind enlightening me
deitchy87 2 years ago
Talk to a naturalpath flu shots screw up your immune system.
People that have had the seasonal flu shot are twice as likely to get swine flu.
boots920 2 years ago
word ?
deitchy87 2 years ago
Secret chip?
deitchy87 2 years ago
God I hope this is a troll. Dying from the flu? The odds of somebody dying from the flu without a pre-existing condition as an adult are slim to none. If you truly think this young lady ruining her life for a flu vaccine is worth the risk then you are a fool.
CROUTONZZ 2 years ago
I guess the good thing in all of this is that you people wont get the flu shot. Thus increasing your risk of dying from the virus, and weeding your stupid ignorant asses out of our population.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Where's your proof ?
Do you think I would trust a government that can't even account for 2.3 trillion in Pentagon transactions.
Name one thing the US government has done right since 1913 ?
boots920 2 years ago
Proof: I'm not even going to answer that. It's so fucking stupid easy for you to find empirical evidence, solid studies, from reputable sources, that you even asking me is a waste of my time.
Just because the Pentagon messes up doesnt mean that the whole government is fucked. Pentagon =/= CDC !
Name one thing the gov has done right?...the RUS Rural Utilities Service....wow that was hard.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Hey buddy if you haven't noticed:
The Federal Reserve is destroying the country called USA by counterfeiting its money supply into oblivion.
The flu shot is to cull the herd before the citizens start waking up to that FACT.
boots920 2 years ago
And there ya go. Conspiracy nut. I knew it.....
razorflown2 2 years ago
When the conspiracy turns into reality then its not nutty is it.
Gold price proves the US dollar is about to become worthless paper promises of value.
boots920 2 years ago
"Proof: I'm not even going to answer that. It's so fucking stupid easy for you to find empirical evidence, solid studies, from reputable sources, that you even asking me is a waste of my time."
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, FLU SHOTS KILL AND HAVE 0 BENEFIT.
boots920 2 years ago
"The Federal Reserve is destroying the country called USA by counterfeiting its money supply into oblivion.
The flu shot is to cull the herd before the citizens start waking up to that FACT. "-boots920
And is this before or after the aliens come down? What part with the Illuminati and the secret NWO underground play? Will FEMA kill us all off or will it be the military. Are you sure indiana jones won't save us from it all? bwahahahaha, loser.
razorflown2 2 years ago
Pretty heavy observations the proof is in the price of gold (useless pretty metal)
Gold 1776 - $20 ( 1 double eagle)
Gold 1971 - $35 ( 1.75 double eagles)
Gold 2000 - $265 (13 double eagles)
Gold 2009 - $1050 US (50 double eagles)
The US dollar isn't holding value because the central bank or The Federal Reserve is counterfeiting world reserve currency into oblivion.
Lydon B Fuckup took the death penalty for counterfeiting off the books as soon as JFK got his ride in the convertible.
boots920 2 years ago
See, and this is where the problem lies. There is a serious problem with the fed. And we're trying to get the word out there. Hopefull hr1207 passes. But then you mix real problems with your fantasy shit and people just look at all of it as bullshit.
But you never answered my question about the aliens man! maybe it was them that made the flu virus...the greys... ya, they're all out to get us. LOL!
razorflown2 2 years ago
Hey all I know is the USA is going to implode because all fiat money systems go poof.
You're the one talking about aliens, serious problem about the fed yea its called counterfeiting money.
Flu shots are garbage...so why is the government fcking with people heads.
boots920 2 years ago
After reading all this kids posts obvious troll is obvious nobody is stupid enough to actually buy into this shit, and if it's not a troll I nominate him for the Darwin Awards.
CROUTONZZ 2 years ago
See buddy's response , in total denial.
Gold , Silver is money and is legal tender in the country called the United States of America.
boots920 2 years ago
this is just one person, get a flu shot and dont be a fuck head.
CropDuster33 2 years ago
You can have mine , 0 benefit to the flu shot.
They don't even work....
boots920 2 years ago
That totally sucks, poor girl, but since when have we regarded FAUX NOISE as news? Sounds like they just hopped on the Daily Paul and started pandering some of our own threads to us to gain our support...
Justin4RonPaul 2 years ago
Oh Goodie, More fule for the anti-vax movement...
dackjaniels555 2 years ago
poor girl
hippi28 2 years ago