The population of the mountainous area was grouped in a race, more than it is now. Except none of Albanian peoples of the Balkans was not native, they were all invaders, and their history so far, has been marking the wars as the Byzantine Empire, the provinces which they occupied, as well as between them.Title: Europe and the Turk: a pattern of ALLIANCE, 1350-1700 (Reprint Edition)
"The conclusion is of great interest. The archeological evidence shows that Greek culture, as revealed in pottery and other objects, did not penetrate into inland Epirus, except at Dodona and there only to a very limited extent, until the fourth century". (N.G.L. Hammond, Epirus: the geography, the ancient remains, the history and topography of Epirus and adjacent areas, Clarendon P., 1967)
"The conclusion is of great interest. The archeological evidence shows that Greek culture, as revealed in pottery and other objects, did not penetrate into inland Epirus, except at Dodona and there only to a very limited extent, until the fourth century". (N.G.L. Hammond, Epirus: the geography, the ancient remains, the history and topography of Epirus and adjacent areas, Clarendon P., 1967)
FUCK PROPAGANDA IS GREKOFIL IS SLAVOFIL MONGOLIANS GYPSYS
ALEKSANDER IS GREKOFIL IS SLAVOFIL HUAUHAHHAAUHHAHUAUHUHAHUHUAHUHUAHAUUHAHUAAHHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAAHAHUHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUHUAAAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUUAAUHAUAHAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAHAHUHAUUHAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAUHAAHUAUHHUAHUAAUHHUAHUAUHAHUUHAHUAHUAAUHHUAAHUHUAHUAUHAAHUHUAHUAHUAUHAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHAHUAHUAHUAHU
ka-le-is-it-anderr - .Aleksander which means born in Albanian and as in dreams
Alexander's mother sees a dream that his first born son and sees him in dreams, blond and blue eyes .. and when I call aleksander nase-le-ka-ne-anderr
and natto-like tongue-in-dream albanese.siete rrubare good at history you fucking gypsies
I have brought all the evidence of history and would like you did with 40 nicknames to spam my tests because I do not want to burn, I have no history of Gypsy culture, but you're just Asian. In 7 hours you have taken your comments like anti Albanian? But how do you fear but innutile hahahaha that madethe propaganda that the truth all healthy
I madejust laugh Asian gypsy who believe Eser Greek ..
All of them historical healthy Greek mythology reflects only the carat of the courage of Albanian Albanian Dorians .... what does it mean in greek? The ILLIADE hilja but was not called so that Albania has a meaning .. we took kosovo take the fruit salad and even floor room floor there sepeliremo shits Gypsy
If you take the time to visit the site of familytreedna you will find an interesting research that shows the resemblances of african tribes to albanians regarding their DNA.
Albanians do not have a country, cities, camps, fortifications and farms, but live rather in tents and are constantly on the move from one place to another with the help of their troops and relatives. They do have one city called Duracium (Durrës) which belongs to the Latins and from which they get textiles and other necessities.
scholars believe that Illyrian was a Centum language, though others disagree. If Illyrian was Centum, then it is unlikely that Albanian (which is basically Satem) is an Illyrian language.
the Albanians were not mentioned in Byzantine chronicles until 1043, although Illyria was part of the Byzantine Empire. most Illyrian toponyms, hydronyms, names, and words have not been shown to be related to Albanian, and they do not indicate that Illyrians spoke a proto-Albanian language (opponents say that many of these toponyms, hydronyms and names are Hellenized and Romanized, though it is unlikely that the change in form was dramatic).
By the way, i see that in the Nouvelle Geographie you acknowledge that Hellens are also Pelasgians hahahaha you fell into your own trap there :) Too bad that they can prove it also by ancient sources and you cannot!
Albanians like you are typical example of uneducated people. You have nothing on your own so you try to steal from others. Georgios Kastriotis who was of Greek father and Serbian mother was baptized as Albanian although no source FROM HIS TIME suggests that. On the contrary, Kastriotis and all others defined himself as Epirotan not Albanian and not illyrian!
Secndly, there is no such thing as pure Albanians, in Albania there is a mixture of different ethnic groups that were forced under the communist regime of Hoxza to adopt a single fictional identity which was served with the illusion of illyrian descent.
Nice fairytales you posted, too bad that they are not verified by any historical source. On the contrary, Albanians are reported to have come from modern region of azerbaijan and reached Europe through Moesia, that's why their language has many linguistic elements from that region and very few illyrian.
Albania which was created after 1912, was given by the big powers the region of North Epirus because they wanted to create a puppet state in the region which was basically used as Italian protectorate. That's why that region is full of Greek toponyms and has a large Greek population. Heimara, Argyrokastro, Agioi Saranda....e.t.c.
So even if we accepted for a while that you are illyrians (which i doubt) why don't you show us one anceint source that says that illyrians were Pelasgians too? You did not even know the name Pelasgian a few years ago poor boy! Have you ever heard of the Minies?
PELASGIANS, was the unitary name which represented the Greek nation as a whole, before the cataclysm of Deukalion & the following division into the known Greek tribes of Danaans, Achaeans, Dorians, Aeolians, Ionians, etc
Pelasgos was the son of Zeus & Niobis, native grandfather of Thessalos, progenitor of the Pelasgians.
Epirus. Daughter of Echion and Agave. It is told that she died during a trip with Cadmus and Harmonia, when they were bearing the remains of Pentheus. The country of her death was called Epirus after her.
Illyrios was a Greek from Greek city Thebes son of Kadmos & Harmonia. All we know about Illyrians comes from Greeks, and often describes them as Greeks. They spoke unsophisticated proto-pelasgian Greek..
Hahahahaha you keep posting idiotic comments with no ancient sources and you still cannot reply to any of my questions, you must be dumber than i thought. Loser, show us one ancient stone that says KALESIANDER or esle shut it and go back to your cave. Is that clear albo from azerbaijan?
Title: A manual of ancient history, from the earliest times to the fall of the Sassanian Empire, comprising the history of Chaldaea, Assyria, Media, Babylonia, Lydia, Phoenicia, Eye, Fudaea, Egypt, Carthage, Persia, Greece, Macedonia, Rome and Parth (1880)
Author: Rawlinson, George, 1812-1902
Publisher: Oxford Clarendon Press OK GYPSYS GREEK GO EN MONGOLIA...ALBANIANS IS ILLIRIC PELASG RAZZE GRECE IS GYPSYS MONGOLIANS AFRICAN RAZZE SHYTE ...ALEKSANDER IS ALBANIANS BLOOD.KA-LE-SI-NE-ANDERR.
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Development and dissemination of Hellenic, come this way, not by conquest but by influence, they are not defeated or expelled Pelasgians, language leleg etc, but gradually assimilated them.
Period characteristics or pre-Hellenic Pelasgian:CONTINUE...
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Dodona, Ambrakia; in north-west, kaon, cities, Finiq, Butrint, Kestria; in south-west, Tesproti, cities, Pandosia, Kasope, and more recent time, Nicopolis. Epirus, during the historic truth, was not Illyrian and Greek CONTINUE..
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Mainland, the largest country after Thessaly, had a rectangular shape, with a length of seventy miles from north to south, and about fifty-five by way. It consisted of a high mountain range, the spërdredhur of Pindos branched, with narrow valleys between them, along the numerous springs flows. The main divisions were in the east, Molosët; major cities CONTINUE
@DANYALHOVVE albanians were brought to europe by turks when they invaded balkans in 13th century. They were turkish servants and are not europeans by decent.
@danh0we Haah there is only one race in the world that can beat the Turks and the Albanian and the race ..
We have made a shield to Europe by the Turks for 24 years .. we have the independence to Datto greke.io shit you are catholic and my ancestors have them combat against the Turks for 500 years. you're shit and you want to shut your mouth and you never made nn a revolution against them. We have the independence they Datto Arvan Albanians ok Gypsy Greko of Cock
Where do you get these fairy tales? The Albanians have always been weak and never won a war. The albanians were loyal to the Ottomans and fought on their side, typical example was Omer Vryon. Your ancestors were known as Turkalbanians and the Turks ahve even named a stadium after their beloved albanian brothers, called ali sami yen. You cannot fool anyone clown. Even today you are Turkey's best friends, Turkey is even making a navel base in Albania, u don't fool anyone.
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are
So you see little tatar, that while i can give ancient sources you cannot even answer my question about the etymologies. And the very least is funny when an albo call others as turkfils when albanians have been and still are Turkey's loyal servants and in every occasion you display your affection to them.
@MACEDONIANfalanx The vast preponderance of Greek Catholics (previous to the political conversion of the Bulgarians) is a fact well worthy of our attention, for it speaks eloquently of the enduring influence of the Greek spirit amongst all the European subject races of Turkey.
The conclusion at which we might arrive, judging from these statistics alone, would be that the
Bosnians are more illyrians than you. So when you talk about purity, certainly you are not among them, since the land you occupy has been the crossroad of every tribal movement, in fact ther must not be anyone more mixed than you :)
Albanian Academic Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich:
"the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead truth, to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and illyrian origin.This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations,
I can say that today appear a group of new Albanian scholars who do not agree with the false myths (About Illyrian & Epirote descent) and courageously accept the scientific truth that they are not whatsoever connected to these ancient peoples. I am proud that I lead this group and that they took up from me the necessary scholarly courage."
Pyrrhus, the king of Epirus, had a particularly high opinion of his powers because he was deemed by foreign nations a match for the Romans; and he believed that it would be opportune to assist the fugitives who had taken refuge with him, especially as THEY WERE ALSO GREEKS...
It was for this reason that Pyrrhus was defeated by the Romans also in a battle to the finish. For it was no mean or untrained army that he had, but the mightiest of those then in existence AMONG THE GREEKS and one that had fought a great many wars;
Pyrrhus aim was the Greek unification (like and the aim of his second cousin, Alexander) in order to lead the war against the Romans.
Thus he entered Italy with a strong Greek army in a bid to subdue the Romans & he defeated the Romans, in the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC. 15,000 Roman were dead and 13,000 Greeks. The Greek cities of Croton and Locri joined Pyrrhus. He then offered the Romans a peace treaty, which was eventually rejected.
The Molossians were the strongest and, decisive for Macedonia, most easterly of the three most important Epeirot tribes, which, like Macedonia but unlike the Thesprotians and the Chaonians, still retained their monarchy. All were Greeks, spoke a similar dialect to that of Macedonia.
(Malcolm Errington, "A History of Macedonia") California University Press,
"...and she was not there forever, but after the cataclysm of Defkalion, which occurred in the Hellenic area, in fact, in the ancient Hellas, which was around Dodoni, and it changed many times the flow of Acheloos river. In that area live the Selloi and the ones that were once called Graecoi and are now called Hellenes..."
"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC (Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57
poor Gypsy, i see that you cannot answer my questions. As for albania, take a look at the kingdom of ancient albania where u came from. I am still waiting for the defintion :) lol
Alexander was Greek and not illyrian, he identified illyrians as foreigners, read Arrian to educate yourself bozo. Not that u are illyrian anyway:))))))
There is no KA LE SI ANDER stupid monkey. All ancient stones and coins say ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ and comes from the words Alexo and Aner (genitive form is Andros) and means protector of men and that's Greek, got it moron?
It's infuriating to watch the fascist criminals of FYROM posing as victims and speak about injustice when they are the personification of brutality, fascism and deprivation of human rights. In FYROM whoever embraces their Bulgarian identity, they get thrown in jail!
The people of FYROM are ethnic Bulgarians. In 1942 king Boris of Bulgaria was welcomed as liberator in Skopje and the Communist party of Vardarska broke off the C.P. f Yugoslavia and joined the Bulgarian. It was Tito in 1944 who renamed the region into Macedonia and started the fallacy of the so called Macedonians in order to advance territorial aspirations against Greece's adjacent region and to deBulgarize the people of modern FYROM so that Bulgaria could not claim the region!
the Foreign Minister of the FYROM, Slobodan Casule, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje on December 29, 2001, said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria, Solomon Pasi, that they belong to the same Slav people.
You see clown, everyone knows that this whole farce of FYROM has ulterior motives and even them know that tey are bulgars!
@MACEDONIANfalanx the UNjustice against Macedonia was already committed in WW! u fukking idiot. this is al bullshit here above. Bulgars live in BULGARIA in southwest part of it used to be Macedonia as well. same as south-west = thrace. u can keep on ignoring over and again. maybe check out the band Baltak and their songs about Macedonia. TRUE macedonia will never rise again as long as England is creating bullshit like israel and greece.
what unjustice against macedonia dumbass? You mean the clowns of Vardarska? The fascists that hek\lped Hitler and then joined Titos' communist plans against Greece? The same criminals that butchered Albanian villagers in 2001? All of them must be shot for theri crimes and the historical distortion. The true Macedonia is in Greece uneducated mongol, visit a museum. What relation do the slavs of Vardarska have to the ancients? Are u on drugs?
@MACEDONIANfalanx here in west-europe Greece is HEAVILY overestimated. they tell us that Baklava is greekfood and cevapcici are greek food. that shoarma is greek all of that pro-west bullshit. greece is fake. the very fact it has sunken so deeep is the fact that they are probably even less worth then Albania. Bulgaria on the other hand has a great perspective for the future. greece is fake, give half to Macedonia again.
the true Macedonia where the ancient Greek kingdom was is in Greece and the shithole that you speak of, was part of Paeonia and Dardania. In fact Skopje was called Scupi & was the capital of Dardania, only Pelagonia was part of Macedonia & that's why all ancient toponyms there are common Greek. The injustice is that Pelagonia is not free yet & it's occupied by the fascists that tried to massacre the native macedonians & now they try also to steal their heritage
"The treatment of "Macedonian" history has the same primary goal as the creation of the "Macedonian" language: to de-Bulgarize the so called "Macedonians" and create a separate national consciousness."
(Palmer & King, Yugoslav Communism and the Macedonian Question, 1971, excerpts taken from Chapter 9 "The Encouragement of Macedonian Culture")
Like i said.... you don't fool anyone hypocrite, you will pay for all your crimes!
“And when he [Alexander] went up into the temple, he offered sacrifice to God, according to the high priest’s direction, and magnificently treated both the high priest and the priests. And when the Book of Daniel was showed him wherein Daniel declared that one of the GREEKS should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended.”
There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for pay— and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for GREECE, and our hearts will be in it. As for our FOREIGN troops —Paeonians, Illyrians,Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia.
@MACEDONIANfalanx fukk u! history of macedonia. org told the truth! greek bastard! Alexander is MAKEDON I LOVE MAKEDONIA! the southern part and northern part is MACEDONIA. educate urself about WWI and the INjustice committed to Makedonia.
hahaha i knew u have no idea about history? Where is your answer clown? You speak about objective history and u show me a well known propagandistic site which is full of historical distortions and lies? And by the BULGARIANS of FYROM who baptized themselves macedonians? GO OPEN UP A HISTORY BOOK IDIOT!
....also it is you who must educated yourself about the crimes of those fake macedonians againt Greece before the Balkan wars and after the WW II, open up the UN resolutions of 1948 and 1949 stupid clown!
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@MACEDONIANfalanx England owns all of that fool! just like they created fake artificial states like Israel and australia. HUGE UNJUSTICE against many nations. current greece is fake. half of it is Makedonia! and Im not Macedonian myself. I just love history and truth! greeks gain a HUGE SUPPORT from the EU. thats it
Artificial states? Sure dumb ass i agree, and the biggest example is the state of FYROM whose real name until 1944 was Vardarska. Open up a history book to educate yourself clown.
“He (Antiochos) also found out that there was (in Elymais ) a very rich temple, where there were golden shields, armors and weapons that they were left there by Alexandros the Macedonian, son of Philippos, the first king among the GREEKS”
....and don't forget the supprot that FYROM got after 2004 by Bush just because Greece signed treaties with Russia and because they need a puppet state in the Blakans to have a huge camp. You see dummy, the only artificial state which started by communist propaganda is the shithole of Skopje that copied the Greek name of Macedonia and its population are SLAVS mostly Bulgarians. E D U C A T E yourself!
You wannta talk about injustice silly? Why don't you talk about Vasko Gligorijevic who was incarcerated for revealing FYROM's hoax and global amnesty had to intervene? Why don't you talk about the fake elections that had to be repeated? Why don't you speak about the mistreat of the albanians in Tetovo and the crimes of FYROM in Aracinovo in 2001 that sent them to Hague? Hypocrite!
'Alexander was predominantly Greek and definitely NOT an ancestor of contemporary Slavic Macedonians,'
(Alfried Wieczorek, head of the Reiss-Engelhorn Museums of Mannheim.)
In an interview with the German Press Agency dpa, Wieczorek said, 'The latest research shows very clearly yet again that the Macedonians in the days of Alexander were closely related to the contemporary Greeks.'
MONKEYDONIANS!!! YOU ARE SLAVS WHO CAME IN BALKANS IN 6TH CENTURY!!!
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HISTORY!!! YOU ARE A VASSAL OF USA!!! YOU ARE A PROPAGANDA!!! GO AND LEARN HISTORY AND AFTER THIS HEAR THE AMERICAN PROPAGANDA!!! YOU ARE A BIG 0 ON THE WORLD'S MAP!!! AND THE BEST PART? YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS!!!
@MegaILIRIA W-H-A-T T-H-E F-U-C-K A-R-E Y-O-U S-A-Y-I-N-G????HAVE EVER YOU SEEN HIS NAME IN GREEK COINS?ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ...protector of man get out of your dream world im not going to discuss about this bullshtit.only in albania you can hear this.
@MrBattleofmarathon this is continued from my first paragraph... it is numerically in possible to kill 10 000 Persian immortals which didn't look like ninja freaks with only 300 men. i have made a video on my channel called persian immortals vs spartans were you can see the most true comparison on youtube. thank you for reading and thumbs up to all people can see this.
@MrBattleofmarathon yes you are correct, if you assume that persia was a barbarian nation then thats when you are wrong, Persia was the biggest and most developed empire at the time. when the Romans built there first barrack Persia had finished a castle when greece developed a trade system Persians had gold mines ready. Persia estimated age is 11 000 years and in this period of time persia had created things that the world hasent even seen yet, what you saw in 300 was not true....
Ihr Hellenen , sagt immer auf die antiken Münzen steht der name MAKEDONIA.
Ich frag mich nur blos , welches Land macht Werbung für andere Länder vor das eigene. Wo bitteschön steht Elláda, Ελλάδα,Ellás, Ελλάς oder Hellas auf den Münzen von ALEXANDER den Großen.DA steht EINDEUTIG MAKEDONIA und MAKEDONIA ist auf gar kein FAll Greeko KAKIS. Wer hat wen erobert. Die MAKEDONIER die Griechen oder die greekoKAKIS die MAKEDONIER.
Ihr seit Lügner,HELLLENEN schämt euch. VIVA la MAkedonia 4 all MAKEDONS
-A group of leading historians, a conference held at the National Geographical Society, said that they"fully fabricated" ancient Greece, the culture that has long been believed that an intellectual foundation of Western civilization.
THE END OF THE FAKE SO CALLED ''HELLENIC''HISTORY!
ONE MESSAGE TO ALL ENEMIYES !!!!! WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT IAM ???? IAM MACEDONIAN !!!!! SON OF ALEXANDER MACEDONIAN !!! SON OF PHILLIP 2 THE KING OF MACEDONIA AND THE MASTER OF OUR PHALANX !!!! GRANDSON OF HERAKLE 1 THE FATHER OF PHILLIP 2 !!!! MACEDONIA FOR MACEDONIANS !! FOREVEEEEEER!!
If Alexander were alive today he'd give the Greeks, Macedonians, Bulgars and Albanians a smack and instruct them to be united and become a rich developed 1st world country instead of quarreling over nothing.
@kryptia1980 bwhahaha, Alexander had Illyrians in his army! 1/3 of his army were Illyrians, 1/3 Greeks and 1/3 Bactrians. in the Battle of Gaugemala 50.000 greeks fought on Darius's side against Alexander. read som objectice history. idiot. 'official eastern greece' exists out of 3 Makedon provinces: west-macedonia central-macedonia and eastern-macedonia. current greece is an artificial state like Israel or Australia. uve got the UK on ur side thats all. ps- south-west bulgaria is macedonia too
where do u get the info uneducated bozo? Among those Greeks who fought on Darius' side there were many macedonians too and read Arrian what Alexander said about their purpose and his purpose and stop manisfesting your low educational level. Read also the Bible, the Talmud, the muslim and buddhist literature and how all of the speak about the GREEK nationality of the ancient Macedonians!
What I find interesting is that in Alexander's time, the "real" Greeks despise him and his Macedonian father as "barbarians" with no culture and trait. Specially people lik Demosthenes who shout about "greece being ruled by a barbarian". Now, their descendants speak of Alexander as their, when they really hated when he was alive. Who understand this?
@jlchh2 All Greek states hated each other. Demosthenes comments about Philip were pure rhetoric. To Athenians, most Greeks were uncivilised Barbarians, these allegations all had their origin in Athens at the time of the struggle with Philip. Then as now, political struggle created the prejudice. This uncultured / barbarian way of life was common to all Western and North-Western Greeks of Macedonia, Epiros, Akarnania, and Aitolia, etc. but their Greek nationality was never doubted.
@HaggisMacfee Also pretty much this.Lets say Thessaly or Sparta took over the rest of greece,every other state would revolt and hate them just as much as they hated the Macedonians.Also the thessalians considered the macedonians like brothers they gave thessaly to philip without a fight and elected him there leader,the opnly greeks who ever revolted or went to war against the macedonians were the athenians and thebans
Macedonia forever Greek
PaokiforLife 6 days ago
...Glory of Greece
Did u heard that fucking skopjans?
LetITbe199 3 weeks ago
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LESSON 1 Megas Alexandros was king of Macedon one of the states of Greece-Plutarch
LESSON2 ALEXANDROS IS HELLENE-Demosthenes
LESSON3 Macedonia of course is a part of Greece-Strabo
LESSON4 Megas Alexandros:
As Hellenes we should not be slaves to barbarians-Callisthenes
LESSON5 Megas Alexandros made Greece the most powerful & Glorious country in the world-Pliny the Elder
LESSON6 Macedonians spoke Greek-Titus Livius
LESSON7 For I Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Greek-(Herod. IX)
FYROMSKI 2 months ago
SPAM IS MY COMENT?? EEEEEEEEEEEEE?? GYPSYS GREEKOFIL HAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAA
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
The population of the mountainous area was grouped in a race, more than it is now. Except none of Albanian peoples of the Balkans was not native, they were all invaders, and their history so far, has been marking the wars as the Byzantine Empire, the provinces which they occupied, as well as between them.Title: Europe and the Turk: a pattern of ALLIANCE, 1350-1700 (Reprint Edition)
Author: Dorothy Margaret Vaughan
Publisher: AMS Press, 1976
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
No artist's model is half so artistic as the shaven Albanian, with his arsenal of weapons.
Titulli: Travels and politics in the Near East (1898)
Autori: Miller, William, 1864-1945
Botues: New York : Frederick A. Stokes
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"The conclusion is of great interest. The archeological evidence shows that Greek culture, as revealed in pottery and other objects, did not penetrate into inland Epirus, except at Dodona and there only to a very limited extent, until the fourth century". (N.G.L. Hammond, Epirus: the geography, the ancient remains, the history and topography of Epirus and adjacent areas, Clarendon P., 1967)
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
"The conclusion is of great interest. The archeological evidence shows that Greek culture, as revealed in pottery and other objects, did not penetrate into inland Epirus, except at Dodona and there only to a very limited extent, until the fourth century". (N.G.L. Hammond, Epirus: the geography, the ancient remains, the history and topography of Epirus and adjacent areas, Clarendon P., 1967)
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
FUCK PROPAGANDA IS GREKOFIL IS SLAVOFIL MONGOLIANS GYPSYS
ALEKSANDER IS GREKOFIL IS SLAVOFIL HUAUHAHHAAUHHAHUAUHUHAHUHUAHUHUAHAUUHAHUAAHHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAAHAHUHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUHUAAAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUUAAUHAUAHAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHUAHAHUHAUUHAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAUHAAHUAUHHUAHUAAUHHUAHUAUHAHUUHAHUAHUAAUHHUAAHUHUAHUAUHAAHUHUAHUAHUAUHAHUAHUAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAAHUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUHUAHAHUAHUAHUAHU
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
SLAVOFIL IS GREKOFIL RAZZE IS BLOOD GYPSYS MONGOLIAN
FUCK OFF FUCKERS RAZZE
ALBANIA FOREVER IS ILLIRIC PELASGIANS RAZZE FUCK GYPSYS MONGOL GREEKOFIL
ALEKSANDER IS ILLYRIANS PELASG ALBANIANS BLOOD
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA ALBANIANS ARE GOOD ONLY:
AS GREEKS TOILETS CLEANERS
MILKING AND FUCKING THEIR SHEEPS AND GOATS
AND TO SUCK MY DICK AND BALLS,
FUCKING ALBO RAT,SUCK MY DICK
BOOOAAAAAAAAAAA
gyftosvalkan 4 weeks ago
@gyftosvalkan HEY YOU GYPSYS SLAVOFIL IS GREKOFIL
I KILL YOU SHIT RAZE OK
CONFRONT MY GOOOOOOOO GAY
MegaILIRIA 4 weeks ago
@MegaILIRIA FIRSTLY (kill) FART AND KISS MY DICK AND BALLS,WITH YOUR DIRTY AND UGLY ALBANIAN ASS,KILL MY DICK KOLOPOUSTRA,KILL HIM WITH YOUR FARTS
BOOAAAAAAA , ALBO RAT, CHICKEN THIEVE,WE FUCKED,FUCKING AND WILL FUCK FOR CENTURIES YOUR UGLY RACE.
GO NOW TO MILK,FUCK AND KILL YOUR GOATS,YOU ARE NOT FOR INTERNET.
gyftosvalkan 3 weeks ago
@gyftosvalkan SHYTE BLA BLA BLA GYPSYS RAZZE
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MY CITY SHKODRA
MY CELL..3286341785
GOOO MONGOLIANS GYPSYS GOOO IL KIL YOU RAZE
MegaILIRIA 3 weeks ago
@MegaILIRIA YOUR ENGLISH SUCKS,YOU ARE COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED,GO OFF INTERRNET,GO MILK AND FUCK YOUR GOATS ALBO SHIT,RAT, COWARD.
(kill) BOOAAAAAAAAA SUCK MY DICK AND FART MY BALLS,
LONG LIFE TO SERBIA,KOSOVO IS SERBIA.
I FUCK YOUR SHIT HOLE,ALBO RAT KILL MY DICK,KILL HIM
BOOAAAAA KOLOPOUSTRA MALAKA GAMO TI RATSA SOU TIN ASKIMI.
gyftosvalkan 3 weeks ago
@gyftosvalkan HAHHAHAHAHAHA GREKOFIL GYPSYS RAZZE
BLA BLA BLA BLA GOO CONFRONT MYYY GOOO GAY
ALBANIANS ILLIRIC PELASGIANS BLOOD FOREVER
IL KILL YOU BALKAN E YOU GYPSYS RAZZE SHYTEEEEEEEEE
MegaILIRIA 3 weeks ago
@MegaILIRIA ALBOS BLOOD IS COMING FROM THE ILYRIANS AND PELASGIANS SHITS .
YOUR ALBO PAPA FUCKS YOUR MAMA GOAT, AFTER WAS BORN YOU THE ALBO RAT.
(kill me?) BOOAAAAAAAAA SUCK MY DICK AND FART MY BALLS,
KILL MY DICK , KILL HIM ,COME WITH YOUR ASS AND KILL HIM.
BOOAAAAAAA ALBO RAT,SHIT FACE,SHORTY.
gyftosvalkan 3 weeks ago
@gyftosvalkan GYPSYS GREKOFIL O SLAVOFIL
BLA BLA BLA GOOO CONFRONT MY GOOOO
GYPSYS GAY
A AM ALBANIANS ILLIRIC PELASGIANS RAZE
YOU GYPSYS SHIT MOTHERFUCKER RAZZE
MegaILIRIA 3 weeks ago
@dillyrianfighter
Many honest albos advise people not to trust their own countrymen! That says it all!
darkomgay1 2 months ago
@sofranuzbekov
many albanians abroad are ashamed to say their identity!
dILLYRIANfighter 2 months ago
@SofranUzbekov
That's true!
DANYALHOVVE 2 months ago
Calling someone albanian is a big insult gentlemen!
SofranUzbekov 2 months ago
Albanians are pure gypsies!
oVODENEC 2 months ago
@oVODENEC ALBANIANS? GYPSYS?? HAHAHHAHAHA
SERBIA IS 70%POPULATIN IS GYPSYS 30%MONGOLIANS
GREKOFILIS 80% POPULATINS TURKOFIL 20%ASIATIC GYPSYS
GO EN MONGOLIA GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
Hahahahaha the assbanian cannto justify the ka le si ander bullshit!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
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Go and propaganda in Mongolia
ka-le-is-it-anderr - .Aleksander which means born in Albanian and as in dreams
Alexander's mother sees a dream that his first born son and sees him in dreams, blond and blue eyes .. and when I call aleksander nase-le-ka-ne-anderr
and natto-like tongue-in-dream albanese.siete rrubare good at history you fucking gypsies
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Hahahaha propaganda is an Albanian thing litttle tatar
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
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I have brought all the evidence of history and would like you did with 40 nicknames to spam my tests because I do not want to burn, I have no history of Gypsy culture, but you're just Asian. In 7 hours you have taken your comments like anti Albanian? But how do you fear but innutile hahahaha that madethe propaganda that the truth all healthy
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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I madejust laugh Asian gypsy who believe Eser Greek ..
All of them historical healthy Greek mythology reflects only the carat of the courage of Albanian Albanian Dorians .... what does it mean in greek? The ILLIADE hilja but was not called so that Albania has a meaning .. we took kosovo take the fruit salad and even floor room floor there sepeliremo shits Gypsy
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHA PROPAGANDA GYPSYS GREEK UAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHAUHAUHAU
KA-LE-SI-NE-ANDERR....ALEKSANDER MOTHER OLIMPIA IS ILLIRIC ALBANIANS BLOOD
UHAUAHUAHUAHUHA GREKOFIL IS GYPSYS MONGOL RAZZE SHYTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@makeDONUT
no sweat
AleksandarArmy 2 months ago
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AleksandarArmy 2 months ago
watch?v=j48WLgCQHuo&feature=channel_video_title
oVODENEC 2 months ago
@arenotmacedonians
Albanksi je turkic tatarski
oVODENEC 2 months ago
nice clip and true
PrincessOfMac3donia 2 months ago
@danh0we
If you take the time to visit the site of familytreedna you will find an interesting research that shows the resemblances of african tribes to albanians regarding their DNA.
darkomgay1 2 months ago
slavs kick albanian asses anytime, when usa won't need them, we will teach them a good lesson!!!!!!!
makeDONUT 2 months ago
@DANYALHOWE
Of course Albanians live to serve us Turks, that's what has been happening since we brought them to Europe. Tha's their purpose.
SofranUzbekov 2 months ago
@arenotmacedonians
It's funny to see an assbanian which by definition is gypsy calling others by that name. lol
danh0we 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
watch?v=wx9pdDjN-EQ
here dumbass learn about the macedonian names cause you must really be too desperate or too stoned :)
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
so it's better to stay in your cave turkalbanian buddy to save yourself from the embarassment. eagle albanians my ass, you all are gypsies from asia!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
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Albanians do not have a country, cities, camps, fortifications and farms, but live rather in tents and are constantly on the move from one place to another with the help of their troops and relatives. They do have one city called Duracium (Durrës) which belongs to the Latins and from which they get textiles and other necessities.
(Anonymi Descriptio Europae Orientalis' 1308)
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arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
scholars believe that Illyrian was a Centum language, though others disagree. If Illyrian was Centum, then it is unlikely that Albanian (which is basically Satem) is an Illyrian language.
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@arenotMacedonians HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHA BULLSHIT GYPSYS GREEK GO EN MONGOLIA ALEKSANDER IS ILLIRIC ALBANIANS BLOOD ...
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
the Albanians were not mentioned in Byzantine chronicles until 1043, although Illyria was part of the Byzantine Empire. most Illyrian toponyms, hydronyms, names, and words have not been shown to be related to Albanian, and they do not indicate that Illyrians spoke a proto-Albanian language (opponents say that many of these toponyms, hydronyms and names are Hellenized and Romanized, though it is unlikely that the change in form was dramatic).
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
By the way, i see that in the Nouvelle Geographie you acknowledge that Hellens are also Pelasgians hahahaha you fell into your own trap there :) Too bad that they can prove it also by ancient sources and you cannot!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Albanians like you are typical example of uneducated people. You have nothing on your own so you try to steal from others. Georgios Kastriotis who was of Greek father and Serbian mother was baptized as Albanian although no source FROM HIS TIME suggests that. On the contrary, Kastriotis and all others defined himself as Epirotan not Albanian and not illyrian!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Secndly, there is no such thing as pure Albanians, in Albania there is a mixture of different ethnic groups that were forced under the communist regime of Hoxza to adopt a single fictional identity which was served with the illusion of illyrian descent.
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Nice fairytales you posted, too bad that they are not verified by any historical source. On the contrary, Albanians are reported to have come from modern region of azerbaijan and reached Europe through Moesia, that's why their language has many linguistic elements from that region and very few illyrian.
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
PELASGOS = Greek name deriving from the words "Pelagos" and "Ago".
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
The original ancient name was Apirotan [found on coins of Epiros from 400bc til 100bc]
The letter A in various Greek dialects becomes an "E" & the male suffix 'os' sums up to: Ηπειρος=EPIROS
The etymology of the word is explained by the term apirotan = απειρωταν =απειρον meaning large
Thats why the name was used later to describe the larger lands of "continents
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@SkopjeTatarovski
Of course he remembers him but he avoids to mention him and many others of his Turkalbanian ancestors!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@DANYALHOVVE
That's the only sure thing!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
Albania which was created after 1912, was given by the big powers the region of North Epirus because they wanted to create a puppet state in the region which was basically used as Italian protectorate. That's why that region is full of Greek toponyms and has a large Greek population. Heimara, Argyrokastro, Agioi Saranda....e.t.c.
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
So even if we accepted for a while that you are illyrians (which i doubt) why don't you show us one anceint source that says that illyrians were Pelasgians too? You did not even know the name Pelasgian a few years ago poor boy! Have you ever heard of the Minies?
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
PELASGIANS, was the unitary name which represented the Greek nation as a whole, before the cataclysm of Deukalion & the following division into the known Greek tribes of Danaans, Achaeans, Dorians, Aeolians, Ionians, etc
Pelasgos was the son of Zeus & Niobis, native grandfather of Thessalos, progenitor of the Pelasgians.
[Apollodoros M. 11.2,3]
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
“And the Trojan nation, Hellenic from Peloponnisos came forth”
(Dionysius Alikarnaseus, Roman archaeology .a61 k.ex)
“And the Trojan genos is Hellenic from the start”
(Agon Homer & Hesiod. Papyrus III. Dublin 1891, page 70)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
Molossus, son of Neoptolemos and Andromache, inherited the kingdom of Epirus, the most ancient region of Greece after the death of Helenus.
(Apd.Ep.6.12: Eur. And passim: Pau. 1.11.1-2)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
Epirus. Daughter of Echion and Agave. It is told that she died during a trip with Cadmus and Harmonia, when they were bearing the remains of Pentheus. The country of her death was called Epirus after her.
(Apd. 3.5.2.: Parth.32.4)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
“Greece starts at Orious and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus”
(Claudius Ptolemy, the Geographer)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MEGAILIRIA
Hectacos: Pelasgos from which Pelasgians derived was GREEK KING FROM THESSALY
Acousilaos: Pelasgos was Greek his father was Lycaon, both of Peloponnesian genealogy
In Prometheus: Pelasgian land means GREEK ARGOS
Ephoros: Pelasgian simply means prehistoric GREEK
Sophoclis: Pelasgian is synonymous to Greek
Thucydidis adopts the same general Pelasgian theory of early Greece
Dionysios Alikarnasseus: The Greek Pelasgians came to Rome
Herodotos' book "PELASGIANS THE EARLY GREEKS"
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Illyrios was a Greek from Greek city Thebes son of Kadmos & Harmonia. All we know about Illyrians comes from Greeks, and often describes them as Greeks. They spoke unsophisticated proto-pelasgian Greek..
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Hahahahaha you keep posting idiotic comments with no ancient sources and you still cannot reply to any of my questions, you must be dumber than i thought. Loser, show us one ancient stone that says KALESIANDER or esle shut it and go back to your cave. Is that clear albo from azerbaijan?
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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Title: A manual of ancient history, from the earliest times to the fall of the Sassanian Empire, comprising the history of Chaldaea, Assyria, Media, Babylonia, Lydia, Phoenicia, Eye, Fudaea, Egypt, Carthage, Persia, Greece, Macedonia, Rome and Parth (1880)
Author: Rawlinson, George, 1812-1902
Publisher: Oxford Clarendon Press OK GYPSYS GREEK GO EN MONGOLIA...ALBANIANS IS ILLIRIC PELASG RAZZE GRECE IS GYPSYS MONGOLIANS AFRICAN RAZZE SHYTE ...ALEKSANDER IS ALBANIANS BLOOD.KA-LE-SI-NE-ANDERR.
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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1. The time of peace, the golden age of poets.
2. The main use of agriculture.
3. Great architecture and fine ornaments.
4. Simple religion, without specific names for the gods.
Sanctuary / national sanctuary at Dodona.CONTINUE..
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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Development and dissemination of Hellenic, come this way, not by conquest but by influence, they are not defeated or expelled Pelasgians, language leleg etc, but gradually assimilated them.
Period characteristics or pre-Hellenic Pelasgian:CONTINUE...
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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Dodona, Ambrakia; in north-west, kaon, cities, Finiq, Butrint, Kestria; in south-west, Tesproti, cities, Pandosia, Kasope, and more recent time, Nicopolis. Epirus, during the historic truth, was not Illyrian and Greek CONTINUE..
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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Mainland, the largest country after Thessaly, had a rectangular shape, with a length of seventy miles from north to south, and about fifty-five by way. It consisted of a high mountain range, the spërdredhur of Pindos branched, with narrow valleys between them, along the numerous springs flows. The main divisions were in the east, Molosët; major cities CONTINUE
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
Albanians live to serve us Turks
DANYALHOVVE 2 months ago 14
@DANYALHOVVE albanians were brought to europe by turks when they invaded balkans in 13th century. They were turkish servants and are not europeans by decent.
Ouija121085 1 month ago
@MegaILIRIA
Turksperm when we are done with Turkey we will annihilate you too. LONG LIVE ISRAEL. We remember your ss troops gypsy. vengeance will be ours!
danh0we 2 months ago
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@danh0we Haah there is only one race in the world that can beat the Turks and the Albanian and the race ..
We have made a shield to Europe by the Turks for 24 years .. we have the independence to Datto greke.io shit you are catholic and my ancestors have them combat against the Turks for 500 years. you're shit and you want to shut your mouth and you never made nn a revolution against them. We have the independence they Datto Arvan Albanians ok Gypsy Greko of Cock
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Where do you get these fairy tales? The Albanians have always been weak and never won a war. The albanians were loyal to the Ottomans and fought on their side, typical example was Omer Vryon. Your ancestors were known as Turkalbanians and the Turks ahve even named a stadium after their beloved albanian brothers, called ali sami yen. You cannot fool anyone clown. Even today you are Turkey's best friends, Turkey is even making a navel base in Albania, u don't fool anyone.
danh0we 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
...and one more thing loser, i am Israeli but i don't like Turkey and it's blood brothers like you!
danh0we 2 months ago
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@MegaILIRIA
Remember Omer Vryon Turkalbanian imposter? Ottoman servant from azerbaijan? Bulgaria will kick your ass!
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SkopjeTatarovski 2 months ago
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are
(Fatos Lubojia - Albanian historian)
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago 29
@MegaILIRIA
So you see little tatar, that while i can give ancient sources you cannot even answer my question about the etymologies. And the very least is funny when an albo call others as turkfils when albanians have been and still are Turkey's loyal servants and in every occasion you display your affection to them.
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx The vast preponderance of Greek Catholics (previous to the political conversion of the Bulgarians) is a fact well worthy of our attention, for it speaks eloquently of the enduring influence of the Greek spirit amongst all the European subject races of Turkey.
The conclusion at which we might arrive, judging from these statistics alone, would be that the
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
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@MegaILIRIA
Bosnians are more illyrians than you. So when you talk about purity, certainly you are not among them, since the land you occupy has been the crossroad of every tribal movement, in fact ther must not be anyone more mixed than you :)
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Albanian Academic Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich:
"the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead truth, to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and illyrian origin.This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations,
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx recognisable Greeks, in Greece and Turkey together, amount to something under four millions excluding the Albanians (Pelasgians).
p.211-212
^ Nouvelle Geographie Universelle (1875), vol. i., p. 238.
Titulli: New Greece
Autori: Lewis Sergeant, Edition 2
Botues: Cassell, Petter & Galpin, 1878
MegaILIRIA 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Albanian scholar Dr. Adrian Qosi writes:
I can say that today appear a group of new Albanian scholars who do not agree with the false myths (About Illyrian & Epirote descent) and courageously accept the scientific truth that they are not whatsoever connected to these ancient peoples. I am proud that I lead this group and that they took up from me the necessary scholarly courage."
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
Alexander was King Philip’s eldest legitimate child. His mother, Olympias,came from the ruling clan of the northwestern Greek region of Epirus.
“Still, Olympias, a Greek from Epirus married to a king of Macedon”
Paul Cartledge “The Greeks: Crucible of Civilization 2000″, Chapter 14, page 213
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Strabo, 7.7.1
Pyrrhus, the king of Epirus, had a particularly high opinion of his powers because he was deemed by foreign nations a match for the Romans; and he believed that it would be opportune to assist the fugitives who had taken refuge with him, especially as THEY WERE ALSO GREEKS...
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Apollodorus, 6.12
It was for this reason that Pyrrhus was defeated by the Romans also in a battle to the finish. For it was no mean or untrained army that he had, but the mightiest of those then in existence AMONG THE GREEKS and one that had fought a great many wars;
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
Pyrrhus aim was the Greek unification (like and the aim of his second cousin, Alexander) in order to lead the war against the Romans.
Thus he entered Italy with a strong Greek army in a bid to subdue the Romans & he defeated the Romans, in the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC. 15,000 Roman were dead and 13,000 Greeks. The Greek cities of Croton and Locri joined Pyrrhus. He then offered the Romans a peace treaty, which was eventually rejected.
"The Cambridge Ancient History"
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
The Molossians were the strongest and, decisive for Macedonia, most easterly of the three most important Epeirot tribes, which, like Macedonia but unlike the Thesprotians and the Chaonians, still retained their monarchy. All were Greeks, spoke a similar dialect to that of Macedonia.
(Malcolm Errington, "A History of Macedonia") California University Press,
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
"...and she was not there forever, but after the cataclysm of Defkalion, which occurred in the Hellenic area, in fact, in the ancient Hellas, which was around Dodoni, and it changed many times the flow of Acheloos river. In that area live the Selloi and the ones that were once called Graecoi and are now called Hellenes..."
(Aristotelis Meteorologika, I, 14)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
"I think it was the glory of the city which prepared them to be called after her, the Pelasgians, the Danaans & the Argeians and the other Greeks."
(Strabo G H VI 8)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
"...Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous"
(Plutarchos Peri fyges 604D-E,13)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
"for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponesus"
(Dionysios Alikarnasseus-Roman Antiquities)
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC (Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
poor Gypsy, i see that you cannot answer my questions. As for albania, take a look at the kingdom of ancient albania where u came from. I am still waiting for the defintion :) lol
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
Albanians are not illyrians, they came from the ancient kingdom of Albania in caucasus!
LillyrianLion 2 months ago 23
@MegaGypsia
Alexander was Greek and not illyrian, he identified illyrians as foreigners, read Arrian to educate yourself bozo. Not that u are illyrian anyway:))))))
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@MegaILIRIA
There is no KA LE SI ANDER stupid monkey. All ancient stones and coins say ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ and comes from the words Alexo and Aner (genitive form is Andros) and means protector of men and that's Greek, got it moron?
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago 3
Don't waste your time with the cheap wannabes of FYROM. Those people are stupid!
EmpireanLegions 2 months ago
@darkomgay1
The regime of Vardarska is pure fascistic!
SkopjeTatarovski 2 months ago
@SkopjeTatarovski
It's infuriating to watch the fascist criminals of FYROM posing as victims and speak about injustice when they are the personification of brutality, fascism and deprivation of human rights. In FYROM whoever embraces their Bulgarian identity, they get thrown in jail!
darkomgay1 2 months ago
Fuck the tatar imposters of Skopje. Those idiots will even say that Alexander drove a zastava. lol
darkomgay1 2 months ago
The people of FYROM are ethnic Bulgarians. In 1942 king Boris of Bulgaria was welcomed as liberator in Skopje and the Communist party of Vardarska broke off the C.P. f Yugoslavia and joined the Bulgarian. It was Tito in 1944 who renamed the region into Macedonia and started the fallacy of the so called Macedonians in order to advance territorial aspirations against Greece's adjacent region and to deBulgarize the people of modern FYROM so that Bulgaria could not claim the region!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
FYROM must be divided among Greece, Serbia, Albania and Bulgaria. The imposters of FYROM must pay for their crimes!
arenotMacedonians 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
the Foreign Minister of the FYROM, Slobodan Casule, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje on December 29, 2001, said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria, Solomon Pasi, that they belong to the same Slav people.
You see clown, everyone knows that this whole farce of FYROM has ulterior motives and even them know that tey are bulgars!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx the UNjustice against Macedonia was already committed in WW! u fukking idiot. this is al bullshit here above. Bulgars live in BULGARIA in southwest part of it used to be Macedonia as well. same as south-west = thrace. u can keep on ignoring over and again. maybe check out the band Baltak and their songs about Macedonia. TRUE macedonia will never rise again as long as England is creating bullshit like israel and greece.
UnaDrinaNeretva 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
what unjustice against macedonia dumbass? You mean the clowns of Vardarska? The fascists that hek\lped Hitler and then joined Titos' communist plans against Greece? The same criminals that butchered Albanian villagers in 2001? All of them must be shot for theri crimes and the historical distortion. The true Macedonia is in Greece uneducated mongol, visit a museum. What relation do the slavs of Vardarska have to the ancients? Are u on drugs?
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx here in west-europe Greece is HEAVILY overestimated. they tell us that Baklava is greekfood and cevapcici are greek food. that shoarma is greek all of that pro-west bullshit. greece is fake. the very fact it has sunken so deeep is the fact that they are probably even less worth then Albania. Bulgaria on the other hand has a great perspective for the future. greece is fake, give half to Macedonia again.
UnaDrinaNeretva 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
the true Macedonia where the ancient Greek kingdom was is in Greece and the shithole that you speak of, was part of Paeonia and Dardania. In fact Skopje was called Scupi & was the capital of Dardania, only Pelagonia was part of Macedonia & that's why all ancient toponyms there are common Greek. The injustice is that Pelagonia is not free yet & it's occupied by the fascists that tried to massacre the native macedonians & now they try also to steal their heritage
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
so get some education and rid the world of your ignorance bulgar!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@UnaDrinaNeretva
"The treatment of "Macedonian" history has the same primary goal as the creation of the "Macedonian" language: to de-Bulgarize the so called "Macedonians" and create a separate national consciousness."
(Palmer & King, Yugoslav Communism and the Macedonian Question, 1971, excerpts taken from Chapter 9 "The Encouragement of Macedonian Culture")
Like i said.... you don't fool anyone hypocrite, you will pay for all your crimes!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
FYROM = VARDARSKA = SLAVIC POPULATION
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
“And when he [Alexander] went up into the temple, he offered sacrifice to God, according to the high priest’s direction, and magnificently treated both the high priest and the priests. And when the Book of Daniel was showed him wherein Daniel declared that one of the GREEKS should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended.”
[Antiquities of the Jews 11.329]
MakedonianHistory 2 months ago 50
@UnaDrinaNeretva
(2/2)
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112
Get some education!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for pay— and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for GREECE, and our hearts will be in it. As for our FOREIGN troops —Paeonians, Illyrians,Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia.
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MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx fukk u! history of macedonia. org told the truth! greek bastard! Alexander is MAKEDON I LOVE MAKEDONIA! the southern part and northern part is MACEDONIA. educate urself about WWI and the INjustice committed to Makedonia.
UnaDrinaNeretva 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
hahaha i knew u have no idea about history? Where is your answer clown? You speak about objective history and u show me a well known propagandistic site which is full of historical distortions and lies? And by the BULGARIANS of FYROM who baptized themselves macedonians? GO OPEN UP A HISTORY BOOK IDIOT!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
....also it is you who must educated yourself about the crimes of those fake macedonians againt Greece before the Balkan wars and after the WW II, open up the UN resolutions of 1948 and 1949 stupid clown!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@MACEDONIANfalanx England owns all of that fool! just like they created fake artificial states like Israel and australia. HUGE UNJUSTICE against many nations. current greece is fake. half of it is Makedonia! and Im not Macedonian myself. I just love history and truth! greeks gain a HUGE SUPPORT from the EU. thats it
UnaDrinaNeretva 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
Artificial states? Sure dumb ass i agree, and the biggest example is the state of FYROM whose real name until 1944 was Vardarska. Open up a history book to educate yourself clown.
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
“He (Antiochos) also found out that there was (in Elymais ) a very rich temple, where there were golden shields, armors and weapons that they were left there by Alexandros the Macedonian, son of Philippos, the first king among the GREEKS”
(A’ Book of Maccabees 6.2)
Like i said bozo, get education!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
....and don't forget the supprot that FYROM got after 2004 by Bush just because Greece signed treaties with Russia and because they need a puppet state in the Blakans to have a huge camp. You see dummy, the only artificial state which started by communist propaganda is the shithole of Skopje that copied the Greek name of Macedonia and its population are SLAVS mostly Bulgarians. E D U C A T E yourself!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
@UnaDrinaNeretva
You wannta talk about injustice silly? Why don't you talk about Vasko Gligorijevic who was incarcerated for revealing FYROM's hoax and global amnesty had to intervene? Why don't you talk about the fake elections that had to be repeated? Why don't you speak about the mistreat of the albanians in Tetovo and the crimes of FYROM in Aracinovo in 2001 that sent them to Hague? Hypocrite!
SkopjeTatarovski 2 months ago 6
@MegaILIRIA
ka le si ander? really? in which stone have u seen that idiot?
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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'Alexander was predominantly Greek and definitely NOT an ancestor of contemporary Slavic Macedonians,'
(Alfried Wieczorek, head of the Reiss-Engelhorn Museums of Mannheim.)
In an interview with the German Press Agency dpa, Wieczorek said, 'The latest research shows very clearly yet again that the Macedonians in the days of Alexander were closely related to the contemporary Greeks.'
MACEDONIANbybirth 2 months ago 2
ANND GLOORYY OF GREECEE !!!!!
vikfox8 3 months ago
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MONKEYDONIANS!!! YOU ARE SLAVS WHO CAME IN BALKANS IN 6TH CENTURY!!!
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HISTORY!!! YOU ARE A VASSAL OF USA!!! YOU ARE A PROPAGANDA!!! GO AND LEARN HISTORY AND AFTER THIS HEAR THE AMERICAN PROPAGANDA!!! YOU ARE A BIG 0 ON THE WORLD'S MAP!!! AND THE BEST PART? YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS!!!
MACEDONIA = GREECE
ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ!!!
Archangel106GR 3 months ago
@MegaILIRIA W-H-A-T T-H-E F-U-C-K A-R-E Y-O-U S-A-Y-I-N-G????HAVE EVER YOU SEEN HIS NAME IN GREEK COINS?ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ...protector of man get out of your dream world im not going to discuss about this bullshtit.only in albania you can hear this.
socrates6068 3 months ago
@MegaILIRIA FOR THE GLORY OF GREECEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IDIOT ALBANOSLAV...DONT INSULT ALEXANDER
socrates6068 3 months ago
any SKOPIAN PIG can suck our GREEK DICK after this video....
m3nidiatis 4 months ago 2
@MrBattleofmarathon this is continued from my first paragraph... it is numerically in possible to kill 10 000 Persian immortals which didn't look like ninja freaks with only 300 men. i have made a video on my channel called persian immortals vs spartans were you can see the most true comparison on youtube. thank you for reading and thumbs up to all people can see this.
ForgerOfEmpires 7 months ago
@MrBattleofmarathon yes you are correct, if you assume that persia was a barbarian nation then thats when you are wrong, Persia was the biggest and most developed empire at the time. when the Romans built there first barrack Persia had finished a castle when greece developed a trade system Persians had gold mines ready. Persia estimated age is 11 000 years and in this period of time persia had created things that the world hasent even seen yet, what you saw in 300 was not true....
ForgerOfEmpires 7 months ago
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Ihr Hellenen , sagt immer auf die antiken Münzen steht der name MAKEDONIA.
Ich frag mich nur blos , welches Land macht Werbung für andere Länder vor das eigene. Wo bitteschön steht Elláda, Ελλάδα,Ellás, Ελλάς oder Hellas auf den Münzen von ALEXANDER den Großen.DA steht EINDEUTIG MAKEDONIA und MAKEDONIA ist auf gar kein FAll Greeko KAKIS. Wer hat wen erobert. Die MAKEDONIER die Griechen oder die greekoKAKIS die MAKEDONIER.
Ihr seit Lügner,HELLLENEN schämt euch. VIVA la MAkedonia 4 all MAKEDONS
Devoj4E 8 months ago
lol who cares everyone had their time of power even the africans had carthage. the past is done arguing would result in nothing. Just enjoy history
PALKIAPOWERPRO 8 months ago
Ανατριχιαζω καθε φορα που ακουω ετσι οπως λεει το Greece!
Harry13ification 8 months ago
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70% of Macedonia inhabited by the Illyrians, and even today!
MrLadrocuori 8 months ago
of GREECE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ThracianRhodope 8 months ago
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NEWS,NEWS TODAY:
-A group of leading historians, a conference held at the National Geographical Society, said that they"fully fabricated" ancient Greece, the culture that has long been believed that an intellectual foundation of Western civilization.
THE END OF THE FAKE SO CALLED ''HELLENIC''HISTORY!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
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ONE MESSAGE TO ALL ENEMIYES !!!!! WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT IAM ???? IAM MACEDONIAN !!!!! SON OF ALEXANDER MACEDONIAN !!! SON OF PHILLIP 2 THE KING OF MACEDONIA AND THE MASTER OF OUR PHALANX !!!! GRANDSON OF HERAKLE 1 THE FATHER OF PHILLIP 2 !!!! MACEDONIA FOR MACEDONIANS !! FOREVEEEEEER!!
MKDBukefal 9 months ago
den pame na pioume ton kafe mas sta skopje re paidia !
GreekNomad1 9 months ago
Coulda been as good as Braveheart... If it weren't for the silly hat...
themusicchap 9 months ago
i really liked this movie. until he started doing dudes. then it got weird.
SSUGAMER90 10 months ago
@SSUGAMER90 well, that was the usual back then...
DarkApostleMatt 10 months ago
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SSUGAMER90 10 months ago
OF GRREEEEEEECCCCCEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!!
dolcevita822009 10 months ago
OF GREECE
AtticusR21 10 months ago
ZEUS BE WITH US!!! WE CONTINUE....
hellinis 11 months ago
@zoquibax well that sounds like a personal problem
xXLoneWolf212Xx 1 year ago
Can some1 be so kind and tell me y ppl dislike Fyrom
xXLoneWolf212Xx 1 year ago
@xXLoneWolf212Xx because they can't see beyond their doorstep
zoquibax 1 year ago
If Alexander were alive today he'd give the Greeks, Macedonians, Bulgars and Albanians a smack and instruct them to be united and become a rich developed 1st world country instead of quarreling over nothing.
zoquibax 1 year ago
@zoquibax
1)macedonians are greeks. fyrom's people are bulgarians and slavs. albanians have nothing to do with macedonians either
2)if alexander was alive today, fyromians wouldnt even dare to speak. if HE was alive now, slavs wouldnt have invade balkans at all...
kryptia1980 1 year ago 7
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@kryptia1980 bwhahaha, Alexander had Illyrians in his army! 1/3 of his army were Illyrians, 1/3 Greeks and 1/3 Bactrians. in the Battle of Gaugemala 50.000 greeks fought on Darius's side against Alexander. read som objectice history. idiot. 'official eastern greece' exists out of 3 Makedon provinces: west-macedonia central-macedonia and eastern-macedonia. current greece is an artificial state like Israel or Australia. uve got the UK on ur side thats all. ps- south-west bulgaria is macedonia too
UnaDrinaNeretva 3 months ago
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MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago
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@UnaDrinaNeretva
where do u get the info uneducated bozo? Among those Greeks who fought on Darius' side there were many macedonians too and read Arrian what Alexander said about their purpose and his purpose and stop manisfesting your low educational level. Read also the Bible, the Talmud, the muslim and buddhist literature and how all of the speak about the GREEK nationality of the ancient Macedonians!
MACEDONIANfalanx 2 months ago 3
@zoquibax macedonians are bulgarians and we are already 1st world countries.(well except Albania)
sleeper7271 11 months ago
0:11 que gracioso que lo dice jaajaja!
pabloj08 1 year ago
Macedonia is one and is in Greece. Fyrom will be soon west bulgary! Time to go home, brainwashed slavs! Mama bulgary is waiting for you!
deedeegr100 1 year ago 2
What I find interesting is that in Alexander's time, the "real" Greeks despise him and his Macedonian father as "barbarians" with no culture and trait. Specially people lik Demosthenes who shout about "greece being ruled by a barbarian". Now, their descendants speak of Alexander as their, when they really hated when he was alive. Who understand this?
jlchh2 1 year ago
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HaggisMacfee 1 year ago 2
@HaggisMacfee Also pretty much this.Lets say Thessaly or Sparta took over the rest of greece,every other state would revolt and hate them just as much as they hated the Macedonians.Also the thessalians considered the macedonians like brothers they gave thessaly to philip without a fight and elected him there leader,the opnly greeks who ever revolted or went to war against the macedonians were the athenians and thebans
VasiliosMakedonas 1 year ago