Troy is in Greece -Sparta is in Greece -Thessaly and Athens too , back then here in Greece we had city states and civil wars before the golden years of periklis and Alexanders after ! the names and the citys are still the same us today!
@tacotacocartman Troy would be somewhere near modern day Turkey if I remember correctly. Sparta back in the Hellenistic Period was one of many city states in Greece - Athens and Thessaly are two others. Italy as we know it today was nowhere near to existence back then. The whole movie is based on a work of fiction by the way. Whether or not Troy really existed hasn't been proven yet...I think.
@Gorayfle troy did exist and the city was founded...there are modern archaelogist who back that claim as of course dug there...it is also stated that a big war took place and texts from the ancient tablets of the hittites also claim the war (since they were part of it)..Achilles fiction??? Alexander the great, Xerxes, Julius Ceasar, Ocatavian/Augustus all visited the site of troy and paid homage to his tumulus.....Look it up bro, its fascinating
nice :D. But please, someone tell me, what is the name of music, when achilles start fighting against boagrius. I looked for this everywhere. Sorry for my english
@mother2330 For starters, there are plenty of brave Men AND Women in this world we live in. If you want to believe differently, than your just ignorant.
Secondly, the "real men" in this movie are completely unrealistic. Your obviously lost in your own fantasy world if you think the world played out like the movie Troy.
NOTHING BAD....JUST SOME MORONS SLAVS OF BULGARIAN ORIGIN FROM THE COUNTRY CALLED FYRO - VARDARSKA THEY THINK THAT ARE DESCENDANTS OF ANCIENT GREEKS AND PARTICULARY THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE?
A SLAVE WHO APPEAR ON PLANET AT 600+AD TO BE DESCENDANT OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT WHO LIVED AT 340BC...
The events described in Homer's Iliad, even if based on historical events that preceded its composition by some 350 years, will never be completely identifiable with historical or archaeological facts. No text or artefact has been found on site itself which clearly identifies it, although Bronze Age cities in north-western Turkey are rare. Greeks, don't you dare claim the city states of Turkey (Anatolia)!
In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that place names found in Hittite texts - Wilusa and Taruisa - should be identified with Ilium (the city of Troy) and Troia (the Troad) respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandu, king of Wilusa, mentioned in one of the Hittite texts, is quite similar to the name of Prince Alexandros (Paris of Troy).
Why don't Greeks leave Turkey(Anatolia) alone? Let the Turks have something to be proud of as they are and will always be descendants of the Anatolians.
More Proof for Greeks:
Mysia (Teuthrea) (NOT A GREEK KINGDOM)
"Existed outside Greek myth and history as the Arzawan sub-kingdom of Masa."
In other words Mysia (Greekcentrics way of changing the name of Masa).
@Predental19 In 1453, the Ottomans completed their conquest of the Byzantine Empire, occupying Greek territory/cities founded and created by the Greeks!! Quit spreading ur Propaganda and Distortion of Historical Facts troll. There are HUNDREDS of Ancient Greek cities in Anatolia: Troy, Assos, Pergamon, Sardis, Ephesus, Miletus, Halicarnassus, Smyrna, Magnesia , Philadelphia , Didyma , Aphrodisias, Kaunos, Byzantium, Pontus, Lydia, Midas, Miletus, Phocaea ,Colophon, and the list goes on and on...
Why are these greek trolls attacking me for speaking the truth? Do you idiots actually take the Iliad seriously? Just because homer made the Trojans speak with the Greeks in Greek doesn't mean that they were greek. What it shows is that Homer is like anyother writer of this day. For example, in the English version the Iliad, the Trojans and Greeks are speaking in "English" does that mean they are a greek people? The trojans will never be a greek people, they are and will always be HITTITES!!
@ThatBadCodGuy Achilles indeed didn't enter Troy, you are right about that.
But about Achilles' death you are wrong. Achilles was indeed killed by Paris with Apollo's help or by Paris AND Apollo, if you want. Noone can say that Paris didn't kill him. Homer, who doesn't describe the scene, says (as a "prophesy" told by Hector before his death): "...the day when Paris and Phoebus Apollo will kill you in front of the Scaean gates, even if you are brave". - Iliad, book 22, v. 359-360
I KNOW THAT ARABS KNOWS THAT MACEDONIA = GREECE AND THEY DONT BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PROPAGANDA AND THE SLAVS WHO SREAK BULGARIAN FROM VARDARSKA - SKOPJE.
Greeks stop being so stupid! Stop claiming people who aren't Greek. The Thracians, Trojans, Carians, Mysians, etc.... all these people of the book aren't greek!
@Predental19 These are all city-states of Ancient Greece u dumb fuckin uneducated idiot. U Piece of Shit Distorer of Historical Facts. Go climb a fuckin tree Monkey.
You uneducated hairy beast, none of the city-states I mention are greek city-states. They are in Turkey, you fucking barbaric animal.
Proof for the Greek who wants to steal other people's history:
"Prior to the time of Alexander, therefore, the peoples of Pontus, Cappadocia, Cilicia, of Paphlagonia, Phrygia, Lycia, of Mysia, and Lydia, spoke dialects of the Hittite language, which the inscription on the Stone Bowl from Babylon and those found in Phrygia and Lycia."
@Predental19 LOL u fkn stupid Monkey. The Greeks founded those cities in Anatolia even before 3000 B.C.. Even the name Anatolia Derives from Greek Ἀνατολή Anatolē meaning East. LOL.. Ur Hittites established their Kingdoms/Colonies around that area between 1750 B.C-1500 B.C. The Turks, who were out in Mongolia climbing trees, arrived in the area in the 10th century B.C., approximately 5000 years after the city of Troy was created. They have no relation with Ancient Greece u ignorant fuckhead LOL
You fucking foolish greek idiot! Your country is in shambles, and now you want to claim Troy, which is a city that the Hittites founded. Listen you ignorant hairy animal: In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that place names found in Hittite texts - Wilusa and Taruisa - should be identified with Ilium (the city of Troy) and Troia (the Troad) respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandu, king of Wilusa, who is Alexander aka Paris.
@Predental19 Hittites and Mongol Turks are Nowhere to be found. Both Unimportant Races whereas one is forgotton because of it's Insignificance and Lack of Influence in Antiquity and the other recognized as a bunch of murderous Barbarians who killed Innocent People for Land and Power...Read Plato's Timeaus and Critias to see who the Greek were, and the Great Colonies they were founding thousands of years ago.
You hairy greek ape, the mongols did something the greeks could never do, which is that the mongol general Genghis had an empire which stretched from Russia all the way to North Africa. Their empire was the largest, only the British empire can surpass the mongol empire. Also, the Hittites are everywhere to be found you greek animal, they are actually REAL and not myth. The Hittites have an empire, they have language, and the Hittites are so famous their name was found in egypt.
@Predental19 In the first place you remember a single deluge only SAID THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST TO SOLON THE ATHENIAN STATESMAN,WHO VISITED EGYPT AROUND 600 B.C, but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived............
Solon made that up, Solon was a drunkard, who told far fetched tales and accounts for which there was no historical accuracy. The Egyptian priest would have never and I mean never claimed that the lowlife Athenians were the best govern city in the whole wide world, for that honor went to the Babylonians who invented LAW! The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian law code, dating to ca. 1780 BC , is the oldest record of governing the the whole world. Hammurabi was king.
How are they unimportant you hairy greek bastard? he Hittite empire reached its height ca. the 14th century BC, encompassing a large part of Anatolia, north-western Syria about as far south as the mouth of the Litani River (in present-day Lebanon), and eastward into upper Mesopotamia. Hittites were mentioned in the Old Testament the Anatolian civilization "[was] worthy of comparison to the divided Kingdom of Egypt", and was "infinitely more powerful than that of Judah".
The greeks were wholly unimportant, the only importance they had was in their country. Greece would never dare come against Egypt during the Bronze age. Alexander the HOMO was defeated by India, and he never reached the civilization of India, they killed that barbaric cur. The Hittites were so famous they actually had a language. The language of the Hattusa tablets was eventually deciphered by a Czech linguist, Bedřich Hrozný (1879–1952).
@Predental19 Hey Delusional faggot. FUCK you and your fuckin Hittites and Lewians u fkn Lying Thief. Ur Propaganda and Distortion of Facts will NEVER Prevail!! The Whole Educated World KNOWS the Truth!!
"The late Bronze Age was dominated by several “super powers” – The Egyptians, Hittites, Assyrians, Kassites, Indians, and the Chinese."
The greeks were mere slaves and insignificant bugs. The real superpowers were the Chinese kingdom of the Shang Dynasty which ruled over 5 million people, which made the most populous empire in the world, the Hittites, those chariot lord who ruled much of the Aegean world.
@Predental19 And this was unknown to you, because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word. For there was a time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war and in every way the best governed of all cities, is said to have performed the noblest deeds and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven. ...
The Egyptians who were truly the greatest of the Bronze Age world, the Kassites who ruled much of ancient Iraq, the great kingdoms of the Indians which had a great emperor, and the Assyrians who controlled much of the east. The Greeks were nobodies, the greek cities were destroyed in the Bronze Age world by the Sea Peoples, these people destroyed the Hittites and their slaves, they destroyed Greece so easily, but they didn't destroy Egypt, or the Kassites, and the Assyrians won
@Predental19 THE GREEKS WERE NOBODY ..IDIOT....READ TIMEAUS AND CRITIAS TO SEE WHO THE GREEK WERE..ANIMAL!...WHATEVER THE WORLD HAS IT CAME FROM THE GREEKS AND NOBODY ELSE!...THE WORLD RUNS ONLY WITH GREEK ACHIEVEMENTS ...LOWLIFE ANIMAL,AND NOTHING ELSE!...
In your dreams. The Greeks were infact nobodies. They didn't conquer much of the world, that was an honor bestowed upon Genghis Khan. The greeks weren't the most educated, that is an honor bestowed upon the Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians, Chinese, Indians, and Babylonians. The greeks weren't the superpower of the bronze age world, why is this?
@Predental19 WHERE ARE THE SUMERIAN,BABYLONIAN EGYPTIAN INDIAN,OR ANY OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS ..IDIOT?....NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!...GREEK ACHIEVEMENTS RUN THE WORLD TODAY..BASTARD,SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!.....
@Predental19 Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour. For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean!..IT WAS ATLANTIS THE GREEK COLONY,WHO WAS FOUNDED BY POSEIDON....EAT YOUR HEART OUT BASTARD! THE TRUTH IS BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN!!!!!
Seriously? Are you sick in the head? If Atlantis did exist, and there is no proof for that, it was actually near Canaan or northwestern Africa. Several writers have speculated that Antarctica is the site of Atlantis, while others have proposed Caribbean locations such as Batabano Bay south of Cuba, the Bahamas, and the Bermuda Triangle. Areas in the Pacific and Indian Oceans have also been proposed including Indonesia (i.e. Sundaland). Some have put it near India.
@Predental19 Dardanus (Greek: Δάρδανος) was a son of Zeus and Electra, daughter of Atlas, and founder of the city of Dardania on Mount Ida in the Troad.
Dionysius of Halicarnassus (1.61--62) states that Dardanus' original home was in Arcadia Peloponnisos Greece,where Dardanus and his elder brother Iasus reigned as kings following Atlas. Dardanus married Chryse daughter of Pallas by whom he fathered two sons: Idaeus and Dymas.
Zeus is a god you greek animal! There is no such thing as this "Dardanus", stop using WIKI to educate your ignorant hairy ass. It makes no sense, the gods don't exist, listen to reality you greek slave. Dardanus never existed! Yawn! Alaksandu is a REAL MAN, for he is mentioned by the Hittites, this was discovered years ago. Proof is in the pudding you greek animal. Troy was LUWIAN, in other words very much Hittite!
@Predental19 CLOSE YOUR MOUTH IDIOT!..YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL A GREAT GREEK HAIRY ASS?..CALL YOUR UGLY SELF THAT ..BASTARD!...DARDANELLES IS A PLACE IN TURKEY...IDIOT....The name Dardanelles derives from Dardania, an ancient land on the Asian shore of the strait which in turn takes its name from Dardanus, the mythical son of Zeus and Electra....IDIOT...ONE MORE THINK IDIOT!..THERE ARE THE GREEKS THE SONS OF GOD,AND THE DOG BARBARIANS LIKE YOU!..OUST NOW!
@Predental19 When a great flood occurred, the survivors, who were living on mountains that had later become islands, split into two groups: one group remained and took Deimas as King while the other sailed away, eventually settling in the island of Samothrace. There, Iasus was slain by Zeus for lying with Demeter. Dardanus and his people found the land poor and so most of them set sail for Asia. All occuring WAY BEFORE ANY HITTITES EVER LIVED THERE.
@Predental19 Dardanus' children by Batea (2nd Wife) were Ilus, Erichthonius, Idaea and Zacynthus. Ilus died before his father. According to Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Zacynthus was the first settler on the island afterwards named by the same name, Zacynthus. Dardanus' other son Erichthonius, had a son by the name of TROS. TROS' son, Ilus FOUNDED TROY in 3000 BC, and the name TROY was derived from his father, TROS.
No such thing, you foolish greek animal! Erichthonius never existed, Troy first appears as a settlement 31st century BC. Illus didn't exist, stop using Wikipedia to educate yourself. Illus never founded troy, because he did not exist, there is no proof, GREEK MYTHS, are just that, MYTHS that aren't true. The Trojans spoke Luwian, this is a language closely related to the language the Hittites speak. All historians know this, even the educated greek historians admit this.
@Predental19 ERICHTHONIUS NEVER EXISTED YOU SAID ,,BASTARD..ON THE TOP OF THE ACROPOLIS LIE HIS TOMB,..BASTARD...AND IT'S CALLED THE ERECHTHEION ..BASTARD.it..has been built in honor of the legendary king Erechtheus....The Trojans spoke Homeric Greek...idiot...and that's a fact !
@Predental19 The long history of Troy narrates the development of a wealthy trade city with sporadic tragic episodes, natural disasters, fires, massacres and wars. Troy was also known as Ilios or Ilion, a name which can be found in the Iliad, Homer`s epic poem, where the poet immortalized the city through mythological characters like King Priam, Hector, Paris and the beautiful Helen. ALL GREEKS. Who spoke Homeric Greek. Greek names, Greek Architecture, Greek Gods, Greek Language, etc...
In your your moronic greek animal. You greeks are so ignorant and stupid. Priam didn't exist, there was a king named Piyamaradu, which the greeks stole and made the name greek. Piyamaradu is a renegade (or adventurer) who seizes the throne in Wilusa after slaying the king. According to Hittite texts he has the help of Ahhiyawa. He is mention in about 1295 BC and 1250 BC, and in the past tense in about 1245 BC.
@Predental19 SO THE GREEK TEXT IS NOT TRUTH,AND THE HITTITES IS E?...YOUR MIND DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY ,ANIMAL!...ACCORDING TO GREEK TEXTS..IDIOT.. WHICH ARE THE TRUE ONES AND THE ORIGINAL, TROY WAS GREEK AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT,.NAME THE CHILDREN OF PRIAMOS..IDIOT IN HITTITE...THERE IS NOTHING TO MENTION ABOUT THEM!.children of Priam and Hecuba Helenus , Cassandra; Ilione; Deiphobus; Troilus; Polites; Creusa,PARIS-ALEXANDROS,HECTOR.. YOU HAVE NOTHING IN HITTITE IDIOT!..
He seizes Wilusa in about 1295 BC, is overthrown by the Hittites and replaced by Alaksandu (who himself is not necessarily a blood relative of Kikunni's), and ends up in Miletus where he is aided by the brother of the king of Ahhiyawa. 1295 BC is about the time where you greek apes claim that Heracles took troy, but only in your dreams. It was Piyamaradu who took Wilusa (Troy) in 1295 BC, not some crazy tale told by a crazy greek about a son of god that doesn't exist.
Despite his name being similar to that of the Priam of Greek legend, his career sounds very different, so the link between the two that some scholars favour seems doubtful. In otherwords, the Priam of greek mythology is a figment of the greek's stupid imagination. The real Trojan War is this fight between the Hittites with Aleksandu as an ally and Piyama-Radu and his greek slaves.
@Predental19 TALK TALK TALK your nonsense!....Relax take your breath and listen!...ALEKSANDU E?...DO YOU MEAN.. ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ=ALEXANDER= defender of men?.. from alexein "to ward off, keep off, turn (something) away, defend, protect" + aner (gen. andros) "man?....THE HITTITES COPIED THE GREEK NAMES!...They lived at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia NOTHING TO DO WITH TROY, WHICH WAS A GREEK CITY!...CLOSE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH NOW ABOUT TROY..IDIOT!..THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!
So stupid, you are so blinded by your pride of being a hairy Greek animal, that you ignore proof and evidence. Aleksandu is infact a Luwian name, the greeks are famous for Hellenizing names that aren't Greek name. They did this to Egyptian, Jewish, and African names, as they did the same thing to Trojan names.
@Predental19 ALEXANDROS=ΑΛΕΧΑΝΔΡΟΣ Α 100% Α GREEK NAME ..IDIOT.... from Gk. Alexandros "defender of men," from alexein "to ward off, keep off, turn (something) away, defend, protect" + aner (gen. andros) "man" (see anthropo-). The first element is related to Gk. alke "protection, help, strength, power, courage," alkimos "strong;" cognate with Skt. raksati "protects," O.E. ealgian "to defend."...IDIOT...
"One of its most famous sons is Herodotus of Halicarnassus, His father was Lyxes, a Greek rendering of a good Carian name, Lukhsu."
You greek common thieves of Carian cultures did this, the father of Herodotus was named Lukhsu, this name was wholly CARIAN, and the greeks turned it to Lyxes, because you are greek apes who steal people's cultures!!!! Pathetic! You greek bastards did this to Egyptian names, and turned it to greek names.
@Predental19 CLOSE YOUR MOUTH BARBARIAN AND SEE THE TRUTH!...LYXES AND HAS A GREEK ETYMOLOGY,FROM THE WORD Greek kalux shell, from kaluptein to cover, hide] AND THE THIEVES STOLE IT FROM THE GREEKS!...IDIOT!
@Predental19 the Trojan War is an historical event; and though even less than 1,400 years BC is the date assigned to it, yet in truth it is nearer 6,000 than 5,000 years BC" (The Secret Doctrine 2:437n), Especially THE MYCENAEAN CITADEL,MORE THAN 6000 B.C......BEHAVE NOW!
Homer's build-up to the fall of Troy includes various events in western Anatolia which could also be attributed to a Hittite campaign. The timeframe for this theory fits better with Piyama-Radu being Priam, and his being succeeded by Aleksandu (Paris). The arrival of Mycenaeans on the coast could be a confusion with later migrations (after 1200 BC) which perhaps have to fight coastal Anatolians to be able to secure a foothold.
The greek mind being that of a ancient Egyptian child's mind will merge these two different events into one. The greeks have no sense, they do not try to make sense of everything, but like children they make up these tales while entertaining is not true or Historical. The single, ten year war is probably Homer's collecting together of an ongoing conflict, as at one point a Hittite letter to a Mycenaean king briefly waves aside the Wilusa 'problem'.
@Predental19 It was the Greeks who where resposible for both Western Civilisation and world Civilization! The Greeks where the super power of very Ancient Times!. Their Greek infrastructure that they created because Greece is where Humanity originated from as well.Greece Was The First Western Civilization and of Mankind to rose up and develope back in the late Stone Age and Early Bronze Age right after the last Ice Age period to creat for its self a Human Civilization of Mankind..
The Hittites were a powerful civilization that controlled most of Anatolia in the second millennium B.C. Anatolia is a greek made up name, but the name of the whole country was Haiti. Their language, written in cuneiform script on clay tablets, was recovered and deciphered at TROY! From what we now can understand from the Hittite sources, the Arzawa land Wilusa identified with the archaeological site of Troy, was a point of conflict between the Hittites and the Greece.
@Predental19 The mythical ancestor, named Thrax, son of the Greek war-god Ares, who was said to reside in Thrace, was a Greek u fkn moron. The Thracians appear in Homer's Iliad as Trojan allies, led by Acamas (Greek name), a Greek and Peiros (Greek name), a Greek. Later in the Iliad, Rhesus, another Thracian king, makes an appearance. Cisseus, father-in-law to the Trojan elder Antenor, is also given as a Thracian king. ALL GREEKS WITH 100% GREEK NAMES.
@Predental19 Kilikia, was founded by Kilix the son of Aginor, the king of Thybes in Greece. Phrygia was also a Greek colony, as was Lycia (an ally of Troy) which was named after Lycus, the son of Pandion II of Athens. The Lycian contingent was said to have been led by two esteemed warriors: Sarpedon (son of the Greek God Zeus and Laodamia) and Glaucus (son of Hippolochus).
@Predental19 Elsewhere in Greek mythology, the Lycian Kingdom was said to have been ruled by another King named Sarpedon, a Cretan exile and brother of the King Minos. ALL GREEKS. Later, the Lycian League first came together around 205 B.C. and was formally established in 168 B.C. under democratic principles. It comprised some 23 known city-states as members. The major cities of the League included Xanthos, Patara, Pinara, Olympos, Myra, and Tlos. ALL ETYMOLOGICALLY GREEK Names Founded by GREEKS
@Predental19 As for the Trojans: Alexandros-Paris, Helenus, Cassandra, Ilione, Deiphobus, Troilus, Polites, Creusa, Aeneas, Laodice, (wife of Helicaon), Polyxena, Primaos, Hector.. All etymologically GREEK names. if they aren't Greek u fuckin Distorter and Falsifier of facts, then what are they?! Turkish maybe?! After all, according to ur stupidity, Troy belonged to the Turks even though they arrived in the 10th century A.D. LOLLLL FKN IGNORANT IDIOT
If you read the Iliad, you would think you had the answer—the Trojans were basically Greeks. ather like Star Trek, heroes from the opposing sides in Homer’s poem can carry on conversations without any translators. Is this to hard for you to understand you fucking son of a greek whore? Homer was a greek, so like a greek nazi, he would have the Trojans speak Greek when everyone knows they do not! Nonetheless, the assumption that the Trojans were a variety of Greek is WRONG!
None of those Greek names are historical. Alexandros (Paris) are names that Homer came up with, Alaksandu is the actual name, and was actually a name found in the Hittite capital, and at Troy itself, so in other words Alaksandu is a Luwian name! The Iliad is a poetic piece of art, albeit in my opinion the greatest ever written. Unfortunately, history and poetry do not always coincide. Why is it so hard for you greeks to understand? Troy will never be greek, they are LUWIAN!
@Predental19 U Moron.. u talk about scripts on tablets and writings yet that doesn't prove anything about the Hittites being the first settlers there let alone the founders of Troy. Ur statements are shadowy & vague u brainwashed troll.
Alexander is a 100% GREEK Name with GREEK Etymology.
The name Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) derives from the Greek verb "ἀλέξω" (alexō), "to ward off, to avert, to defend" and the noun "ἀνδρός" (andros), genitive of "ἀνήρ" (anēr), "man" and means "protector of men."
Later Greek myths (from the sixth century) say that Helen spends the duration of the Trojan War in Egypt rather than Troy, and that after the war the Mycenaeans go there to recover her and are identified by the Egyptians as Sea Peoples. Myths from the six century can't compete with historical tablets and writings you brainless greek pig. It proves that Luwian people who are related to the Hittites did indeed founded Wilusa (The real name of Troy.
@Predental19 YOU ARE THE PIG!,,DO NOT FORGET THAT YOU TALK TO A GREAT GREEK..IDIOT...THE ONE THAT GAVE YOU EVERYTHING,AND BROUGHT YOU OUT OF YOUR ANIMAL STATE AND TOUGH YOU HOW TO LIVE!..BARBARIANS,...YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO UNDERRATE THE GREEKS,AND STARTED PLAYING SMART WITH THEIR KNOWLEDGE!...STOP YOUR NONSENSE,!...TROJANS WERE GREAT GREEKS,AND THEY BELIEVE IN THE GREEK GODS,THEY HAD GREEK ARCHITECTURE,CLOTHING CULTURE,AND LANGUAGE !...GO TO HELL NOW!
In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that placenames found in Hittite texts — Wilusa and Taruisa — should be identified with Ilium and Troia respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandus, king of Wilusa, mentioned in one of the Hittite texts is quite similar to the name of Prince Alexandros or Paris of Troy.
@Predental19 WHAT DID THE MONGOL TURKS DID ..IDIOT?..BRING BLIGHT TO THE WORLD?....BEHAVE NOW AND LOOK AT YOUR MISERY!....In the concluding section of the Minos (318c ff), Socrates praises the oldest
law, that given to Crete by Minos, who in Socrates’s characterization
obtained this law as a result of his status as confidant of Zeus, Minos’s
The Hittite king Mursili II in ca. 1320 BC wrote a letter to the king of the Ahhiyawa, treating him as an equal and implying that Millawanda (Miletus) was controlled by the Ahhiyawa, and also referring to an earlier "Wilusa episode" involving hostility on the part of the Ahhiyawa. This people has been identified with the Homeric Greeks (Achaeans).
Trevor Bryce in 1998 championed them in his book The Kingdom of the Hittites, citing a recovered piece of the Manapa-Tarhunda letter, which refers to the kingdom of Wilusa as beyond the land of the Seha (known in classical times as the Caicus) river, and near the land of Lazpa (the Isle of Lesbos). There is your proof you greek barbarian. Recent evidence adds weight to the theory that Wilusa is identical to archaeological Troy.
Hittite texts mention a water tunnel at Wilusa, and a water tunnel excavated by Korfmann, previously thought to be Roman, has been dated to around 2600 BC. Why would the Hittites mention this, if they had not been the overlords and rulers of Wilusa (Troy)? It is apparent to me that Wilusa was ruled by Luwian vassals of the Hittites. No text or artifact has been found on site itself which clearly the word "Troy" in Wilusa. Funny, huh you greek animal?
While no greek texts or the name of "Troy" was founded in the site, a single seal of a Luwian scribe has been found in one of the houses, proving the presence of written correspondence in the city, but not a single text. Our emerging understanding of the geography of the Hittite Empire makes it very likely that the site corresponds to the city of Wilusa. LMAO you greek ape! Stop trying to steal history.
HOW THE ARCAIOLOGISTS FOUND THE WORD ''WILUSA'' BUT THEY DIDNT FOUND THE WORDS ''ΙΛΙΟΝ'' OR ''ΤΡΟΙΑ''?
YOU MORON IN AGES WHERE ONLY THE GREEK ALPHABET WAS KNOWN IN THE AEGEAN TERRITORY HOW THE FUCK CAN SOMEONE FOUND INSCRIPTION IN LATIN ALPHABET WHICH ARRIVES FROM GREEK ALPHABET MANE AEONS AFTER?
You idiot the word "Wilusa" was found in LUWIAN, the archeologists deciphered it, and the word they got was "WILUSA". LOL! Stop playing dumb you greek idiot!!!
Historical Wilusa was one of the Arzawa lands, in loose alliance with the Hittite Empire, and written reference to the city is therefore to be expected in Hittite correspondence. The ostensible historicity of Homer's Troy faces the same hurdles as with Plato's Atlantis. In both cases, an ancient writer's story is now seen by some to be true, by others to be mythology or fiction.
@Predental19 As touching your citizens of nine thousand years ago,SOLON SAID THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST,.. I will briefly inform you of their laws and of their most famous action; the exact particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure in the sacred registers themselves. If you compare these very laws with ours you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours as they were in the olden time. .....
No historical city of Troy existed anywhere: the name derives from a people called the Troies, who probably lived in central Greece. Troy doesn't exist, but the Hittite Wilusa does in fact exist, because the Hittites were infact the rulers of Wilusa (Troy). The story of the Iliad is not an account of the war, but a tale of the psychology, the wrath, vengence and death of individual heroes that assumes common knowledge of the Trojan War to create a backdrop. It is just MYTH!
@Predental19 . You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and afterwards she founded ours, of which the constitution is recorded in our sacred registers to be eight thousand years old. ....
All greek fairy-tales. Greeks, when will you understand the difference between myth and facts? Troy is and will always be Luwian. There is no if and or butts. Wilusa (Troy) has no record of greek, the writings discovered is Luwian in Wilusa (Troy), no greek! Why is this? Why couldn't they find record for greek writing at Wilusa?
@Predental19 It's not Alaksandu u stupid idiot. IT'S ALEXANDER!! Learn it well!!!
TROY is a GREEK name. TROY derives from TROS (the eponym of Troy), son of King Erichthonius of Dardania, grandson of Zeus and Electra, and of Astyocheia, daughter of the river god Simoeis. It is an indusputable Fact that it was from TROS that the Dardanians were called Trojans and the land named the Troad.
@Predental19 It's strongly suggested for ur sake that u shut ur fkn uneducated mouth as opposed to embarrasing urself in front of all us Greeks who'll just end up putting u in ur place every single time. U know SHIT about SHIT all u do is Falsify & Alter Facts. U're a jealous fuck with no History and nothing to be proud of. U'll NEVER Prevail U African Monkey. History is Written The whole educated world KNOWS the TRUTH
Scholarly opinion now leans toward identifying the Trojans as part of the LUWIAN peoples who occupied large swaths of what we now call Turkey, primarily in the Western and Southeastern portions, throughout the Bronze Ages. Most of what we know about the Luwians is found in the Hittite texts which include a lot of Luwian information in the Luwian language. If you want to understand the Trojans/Luwians, by necessity you must examine the Hittites.
Studying the Hittites to understand the Luwians/Trojans is useful because they are closely related culturally and religiously. The Luwians and Hittites were Indo-European, not the dark skinned GREEKS, who look and smell like mongols! The Luwians were very fair, just like the Hittites. Luwian, as a language, is part of a closely related group including Hittite, Palaic, Lycian, Lydian, and Carian.
Linguistically the Hittites and Luwians were close in many ways, and language is a significant cultural determinor. The Hittite language directly borrowed many Luwian words. Indeed by the height of the Hittite empire, a majority of the residents of Hattusa, the Hittite capital, spoke Luwian. The Hittite king and royal family spoke both Luwian and Hittite. The only piece of writing from Troy, a hieroglyphic seal, is written in Luwian. (GREEK asshole, only evidence shows LUWIAN).
Luwian was written in both cuneiform and hieroglyphics depending on the context. Also the oldest form of the name for Troy known to the Hittites, Wilusiya-, is a Luwian formulation. The later Hittite name for Troy is Wilusa. (Greek monkey, who wins? Homer or the oldest form of the name for "Troy" which was "Wilusiya"). LOL! A wide variety of religious influences between the Hittites and Luwians can be found in the written evidence. Luwian and Hittite relgious texts were similar
That means the actual ritual practices of the Hittites would include Luwian elements. Only one piece of writing has been found at Troy, a hieroglyphic seal, the Hittite side of correspondence and treaties with the Trojans and others in this Luwian area are extant, so we know that the kings of Troy/Wilusa had scribes and written records. . Ancient Anatolia is a patchwork of peoples–Luwian, Hurrian, Hatti, etc. AHAHA! Your are but a common greek thief!
Troy is in Greece -Sparta is in Greece -Thessaly and Athens too , back then here in Greece we had city states and civil wars before the golden years of periklis and Alexanders after ! the names and the citys are still the same us today!
antonio39776 1 day ago
I forgot just how silly this movie was
boysangur 1 day ago
That awkward moment when you yell for someone in a crowd and get NO answer
Wasabiithechoirgeek 1 day ago in playlist Liked videos
My king: Achilles is getting a blowjob!
DemonofAir 1 day ago
i still dont understand!!!!!! troy=greece and they were vs who??? turks??
and who is sparta WTF?? is sparta=italy?? LOL It is me mario!!! WTFFFF someone help me understand what is going on here
tacotacocartman 2 weeks ago
@tacotacocartman Troy would be somewhere near modern day Turkey if I remember correctly. Sparta back in the Hellenistic Period was one of many city states in Greece - Athens and Thessaly are two others. Italy as we know it today was nowhere near to existence back then. The whole movie is based on a work of fiction by the way. Whether or not Troy really existed hasn't been proven yet...I think.
Gorayfle 2 weeks ago
@Gorayfle troy did exist and the city was founded...there are modern archaelogist who back that claim as of course dug there...it is also stated that a big war took place and texts from the ancient tablets of the hittites also claim the war (since they were part of it)..Achilles fiction??? Alexander the great, Xerxes, Julius Ceasar, Ocatavian/Augustus all visited the site of troy and paid homage to his tumulus.....Look it up bro, its fascinating
boricuaalex2 1 week ago
@boricuaalex2 Thanks for the heads-up. I'll definitely check it out.
Gorayfle 1 week ago
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WorldWideBEEP 6 days ago
nice :D. But please, someone tell me, what is the name of music, when achilles start fighting against boagrius. I looked for this everywhere. Sorry for my english
MultiDupajasiu 3 weeks ago
didnt thessaly have great cav...i guess this is b4 tht time period.
PhalangitePower 4 weeks ago
"he's not my king."
smokycannon 1 month ago
Im greek and proud
Apollo2K11 1 month ago
historically wrong..I live in Thessaly and Achilles was from Thessaly..Pitt should be on the other side
sfak5 1 month ago
Well my balls are fully grown, perhaps you should quit raging or trolling people on youtube because you just fail like your forehead :)
masrawy12311 1 month ago
EPIC! This film is so underrated.
x0lamborghini0x 1 month ago 2
Brad Pitt, you ROCK
flyalmasters 1 month ago
"he's not my king" .... ha ha
icelinx 1 month ago
imagine a king who fights his own battles
villamizar1994 1 month ago
loved that scene! Achillies is great.
ohhhshesadiva 1 month ago
Brads Pitt vs. Jessie Ventura.
svenmega10022 1 month ago
I have an achillies injury but I took an arrow to the... oh wait...
trollsnot 1 month ago
Thumbs up if you have an achilles injury and you're laid up and bored.
bal2569 1 month ago
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Turansah15 1 month ago
"I used to take arrows to the knee, but then I took one to the heel" - Achilles
MaiiLene 1 month ago
Achillies "Is there no one else!?" -whole army attacks him-
masrawy12311 1 month ago 2
@masrawy12311 Whole army would have lost , then your mother would have quit sucking my cock and started sucking his
jjj255able 1 month ago
@jjj255able hmmm, i comment on youtube a joke, and you insult my mother, perhaps i should just label you as a retarded antisocial lowlife :)
masrawy12311 1 month ago 19
@masrawy12311 Or, perhaps you should grow a pair of balls and consider why you even commented back.
bobdy9988 1 month ago
nice all war make this
shigri04 1 month ago
Achilles > William Wallace
universe112 1 month ago
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universe112 1 month ago
4:35 - critical charge perk in Skyrim.
soildmoose 1 month ago
I have tendoitis of my achilles...right now.
tromuniapp 1 month ago
We need real man not like mommy boy liked now now men are a pussy bicth I like the movie is he a real man not like now
mother2330 1 month ago
@mother2330 There stil are brave men in the world jackass, they just dont kill eachother with swords anymore
dan9rocks 1 month ago
@mother2330
if everyone was a pussy the world would be a wonderful place though
postmasterw00t 1 month ago 26
@postmasterw00t thats wrong. everyone would be fags and wanting to touch each other
WADEWHAT 1 month ago
@WADEWHAT lol nah pussies arent fags bro....they are pussiess, some pussies are fags but most are not
postmasterw00t 1 month ago
@postmasterw00t Most people are a pussy, is just that they put on a 'front' to act like tough man.
MrTimooth 1 week ago
It a bad ass movie it the real man we need now
mother2330 1 month ago
@mother2330 For starters, there are plenty of brave Men AND Women in this world we live in. If you want to believe differently, than your just ignorant.
Secondly, the "real men" in this movie are completely unrealistic. Your obviously lost in your own fantasy world if you think the world played out like the movie Troy.
StarktheMonkey 1 month ago
Well, that was a short war.
FireStormBaller 1 month ago 2
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WarlordSosa 2 months ago
@HitmanMatu
NOTHING BAD....JUST SOME MORONS SLAVS OF BULGARIAN ORIGIN FROM THE COUNTRY CALLED FYRO - VARDARSKA THEY THINK THAT ARE DESCENDANTS OF ANCIENT GREEKS AND PARTICULARY THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE?
A SLAVE WHO APPEAR ON PLANET AT 600+AD TO BE DESCENDANT OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT WHO LIVED AT 340BC...
MORE MORONIC IT CANT BE!...
POTIS1 2 months ago
4:38 the sword going into his shoulder like that makes me cringe
josef733 2 months ago
the tall bold guy reminds me of kratos
OREOcb 2 months ago
all the comments are replys...
OREOcb 2 months ago
I love how you can do this in Skyrim =P
DamaChameleon 2 months ago
Mega-Man break pretty boyz back in half!
vernaculos 2 months ago
WHY ARE YOU GUYS TALKING IN CAPS!!!
RedWingsSwag 2 months ago
One second Stone Cold steve austin is like HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHHHAAAAAAAAAA, getting them motivated,
secs later,
triple H kills him
;D
MHS032 2 months ago
ROIDS + DIET = ^^^^^^^
lukeizze 2 months ago
The events described in Homer's Iliad, even if based on historical events that preceded its composition by some 350 years, will never be completely identifiable with historical or archaeological facts. No text or artefact has been found on site itself which clearly identifies it, although Bronze Age cities in north-western Turkey are rare. Greeks, don't you dare claim the city states of Turkey (Anatolia)!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 no we dont claim them..we took what we want almost...soon konstantinoupoli
socrates6068 2 months ago
In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that place names found in Hittite texts - Wilusa and Taruisa - should be identified with Ilium (the city of Troy) and Troia (the Troad) respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandu, king of Wilusa, mentioned in one of the Hittite texts, is quite similar to the name of Prince Alexandros (Paris of Troy).
Predental19 2 months ago
Why don't Greeks leave Turkey(Anatolia) alone? Let the Turks have something to be proud of as they are and will always be descendants of the Anatolians.
More Proof for Greeks:
Mysia (Teuthrea) (NOT A GREEK KINGDOM)
"Existed outside Greek myth and history as the Arzawan sub-kingdom of Masa."
In other words Mysia (Greekcentrics way of changing the name of Masa).
Troy/Ilium (Real name being Wilusa):
Will post on another post.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 In 1453, the Ottomans completed their conquest of the Byzantine Empire, occupying Greek territory/cities founded and created by the Greeks!! Quit spreading ur Propaganda and Distortion of Historical Facts troll. There are HUNDREDS of Ancient Greek cities in Anatolia: Troy, Assos, Pergamon, Sardis, Ephesus, Miletus, Halicarnassus, Smyrna, Magnesia , Philadelphia , Didyma , Aphrodisias, Kaunos, Byzantium, Pontus, Lydia, Midas, Miletus, Phocaea ,Colophon, and the list goes on and on...
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
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SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
Why are these greek trolls attacking me for speaking the truth? Do you idiots actually take the Iliad seriously? Just because homer made the Trojans speak with the Greeks in Greek doesn't mean that they were greek. What it shows is that Homer is like anyother writer of this day. For example, in the English version the Iliad, the Trojans and Greeks are speaking in "English" does that mean they are a greek people? The trojans will never be a greek people, they are and will always be HITTITES!!
Predental19 2 months ago
Brad Pitt is a really really good actor, but some of his characters are really douches.
bbenjoe 2 months ago
Kto Polak ?
łapy w góre :)
Arkanz223 2 months ago
no titties. :'(
WH1T3YHD 2 months ago 5
الراجل دة صح الصح والسيف بتاعه صح الصح
BLackHawk2050 2 months ago
يزيزو النوبي :احى الشبشب ضاع
BLackHawk2050 2 months ago
its Greeks-Thessaly not trojans
ThatBadCodGuy 2 months ago
@ThatBadCodGuy its greeks vs trojans greeks had thessaly conquered at that time.
MONOl2edemption 2 months ago
you can't have the whole world Agamemnon! It is too big even for you!
I love that!
dimitroula32 2 months ago
good day for the crows
Stavrinho10 2 months ago
My Greek class used to laugh at this movie because of its ridiculous inaccuracy.
AntiTroll101 2 months ago
@AntiTroll101 Noone cares, faggot.
Moleson3MC 2 months ago
@AntiTroll101, how so?
jeermarff 2 months ago
@jeermarff e.g Achilles didnt make it into the walls of troy and Paris didnt kill him
ThatBadCodGuy 2 months ago
@ThatBadCodGuy Achilles indeed didn't enter Troy, you are right about that.
But about Achilles' death you are wrong. Achilles was indeed killed by Paris with Apollo's help or by Paris AND Apollo, if you want. Noone can say that Paris didn't kill him. Homer, who doesn't describe the scene, says (as a "prophesy" told by Hector before his death): "...the day when Paris and Phoebus Apollo will kill you in front of the Scaean gates, even if you are brave". - Iliad, book 22, v. 359-360
Lhein33 2 months ago
@Lhein33 i meant Paris didnt kill him in the City of Troy but thanks for all the information
ThatBadCodGuy 2 months ago
@Lhein33 Either way I thought this film portrayed Paris as being too wimpy and cowardly.
xyPERSON 2 months ago
@AntiTroll101 same in my latin class
ThatBadCodGuy 2 months ago
SACK OF WINE HAHAHA
mixgua13 2 months ago
@arabian143
I KNOW THAT ARABS KNOWS THAT MACEDONIA = GREECE AND THEY DONT BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PROPAGANDA AND THE SLAVS WHO SREAK BULGARIAN FROM VARDARSKA - SKOPJE.
THANX
POTIS1 2 months ago
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unfukkkmee 2 months ago
@unfukkkmee You sure know how to monopolize a conversation.
Buzz0Killington 2 months ago
@Buzz0Killington DO U HAVE PROBLEM ?
unfukkkmee 2 months ago
@unfukkkmee No but you obviously do, "All caps Man".
Buzz0Killington 2 months ago
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unfukkkmee 2 months ago
Greeks stop being so stupid! Stop claiming people who aren't Greek. The Thracians, Trojans, Carians, Mysians, etc.... all these people of the book aren't greek!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 These are all city-states of Ancient Greece u dumb fuckin uneducated idiot. U Piece of Shit Distorer of Historical Facts. Go climb a fuckin tree Monkey.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
You uneducated hairy beast, none of the city-states I mention are greek city-states. They are in Turkey, you fucking barbaric animal.
Proof for the Greek who wants to steal other people's history:
"Prior to the time of Alexander, therefore, the peoples of Pontus, Cappadocia, Cilicia, of Paphlagonia, Phrygia, Lycia, of Mysia, and Lydia, spoke dialects of the Hittite language, which the inscription on the Stone Bowl from Babylon and those found in Phrygia and Lycia."
Lol!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 LOL u fkn stupid Monkey. The Greeks founded those cities in Anatolia even before 3000 B.C.. Even the name Anatolia Derives from Greek Ἀνατολή Anatolē meaning East. LOL.. Ur Hittites established their Kingdoms/Colonies around that area between 1750 B.C-1500 B.C. The Turks, who were out in Mongolia climbing trees, arrived in the area in the 10th century B.C., approximately 5000 years after the city of Troy was created. They have no relation with Ancient Greece u ignorant fuckhead LOL
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
You fucking foolish greek idiot! Your country is in shambles, and now you want to claim Troy, which is a city that the Hittites founded. Listen you ignorant hairy animal: In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that place names found in Hittite texts - Wilusa and Taruisa - should be identified with Ilium (the city of Troy) and Troia (the Troad) respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandu, king of Wilusa, who is Alexander aka Paris.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 Hittites and Mongol Turks are Nowhere to be found. Both Unimportant Races whereas one is forgotton because of it's Insignificance and Lack of Influence in Antiquity and the other recognized as a bunch of murderous Barbarians who killed Innocent People for Land and Power...Read Plato's Timeaus and Critias to see who the Greek were, and the Great Colonies they were founding thousands of years ago.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
You hairy greek ape, the mongols did something the greeks could never do, which is that the mongol general Genghis had an empire which stretched from Russia all the way to North Africa. Their empire was the largest, only the British empire can surpass the mongol empire. Also, the Hittites are everywhere to be found you greek animal, they are actually REAL and not myth. The Hittites have an empire, they have language, and the Hittites are so famous their name was found in egypt.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 In the first place you remember a single deluge only SAID THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST TO SOLON THE ATHENIAN STATESMAN,WHO VISITED EGYPT AROUND 600 B.C, but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived............
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
Solon made that up, Solon was a drunkard, who told far fetched tales and accounts for which there was no historical accuracy. The Egyptian priest would have never and I mean never claimed that the lowlife Athenians were the best govern city in the whole wide world, for that honor went to the Babylonians who invented LAW! The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian law code, dating to ca. 1780 BC , is the oldest record of governing the the whole world. Hammurabi was king.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
How are they unimportant you hairy greek bastard? he Hittite empire reached its height ca. the 14th century BC, encompassing a large part of Anatolia, north-western Syria about as far south as the mouth of the Litani River (in present-day Lebanon), and eastward into upper Mesopotamia. Hittites were mentioned in the Old Testament the Anatolian civilization "[was] worthy of comparison to the divided Kingdom of Egypt", and was "infinitely more powerful than that of Judah".
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The greeks were wholly unimportant, the only importance they had was in their country. Greece would never dare come against Egypt during the Bronze age. Alexander the HOMO was defeated by India, and he never reached the civilization of India, they killed that barbaric cur. The Hittites were so famous they actually had a language. The language of the Hattusa tablets was eventually deciphered by a Czech linguist, Bedřich Hrozný (1879–1952).
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 Hey Delusional faggot. FUCK you and your fuckin Hittites and Lewians u fkn Lying Thief. Ur Propaganda and Distortion of Facts will NEVER Prevail!! The Whole Educated World KNOWS the Truth!!
Stinking African Monkey. LOLLL
NOW BLOCKHEADED FUCKFACE, ALLOW ME TO EDUCATE:
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The superpowers of the Ancient Bronze Age World:
"The late Bronze Age was dominated by several “super powers” – The Egyptians, Hittites, Assyrians, Kassites, Indians, and the Chinese."
The greeks were mere slaves and insignificant bugs. The real superpowers were the Chinese kingdom of the Shang Dynasty which ruled over 5 million people, which made the most populous empire in the world, the Hittites, those chariot lord who ruled much of the Aegean world.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 And this was unknown to you, because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word. For there was a time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war and in every way the best governed of all cities, is said to have performed the noblest deeds and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven. ...
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The Egyptians who were truly the greatest of the Bronze Age world, the Kassites who ruled much of ancient Iraq, the great kingdoms of the Indians which had a great emperor, and the Assyrians who controlled much of the east. The Greeks were nobodies, the greek cities were destroyed in the Bronze Age world by the Sea Peoples, these people destroyed the Hittites and their slaves, they destroyed Greece so easily, but they didn't destroy Egypt, or the Kassites, and the Assyrians won
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 THE GREEKS WERE NOBODY ..IDIOT....READ TIMEAUS AND CRITIAS TO SEE WHO THE GREEK WERE..ANIMAL!...WHATEVER THE WORLD HAS IT CAME FROM THE GREEKS AND NOBODY ELSE!...THE WORLD RUNS ONLY WITH GREEK ACHIEVEMENTS ...LOWLIFE ANIMAL,AND NOTHING ELSE!...
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
In your dreams. The Greeks were infact nobodies. They didn't conquer much of the world, that was an honor bestowed upon Genghis Khan. The greeks weren't the most educated, that is an honor bestowed upon the Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians, Chinese, Indians, and Babylonians. The greeks weren't the superpower of the bronze age world, why is this?
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 WHERE ARE THE SUMERIAN,BABYLONIAN EGYPTIAN INDIAN,OR ANY OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS ..IDIOT?....NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!...GREEK ACHIEVEMENTS RUN THE WORLD TODAY..BASTARD,SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!.....
nixter888 2 months ago
@Predental19 Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour. For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean!..IT WAS ATLANTIS THE GREEK COLONY,WHO WAS FOUNDED BY POSEIDON....EAT YOUR HEART OUT BASTARD! THE TRUTH IS BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN!!!!!
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
Seriously? Are you sick in the head? If Atlantis did exist, and there is no proof for that, it was actually near Canaan or northwestern Africa. Several writers have speculated that Antarctica is the site of Atlantis, while others have proposed Caribbean locations such as Batabano Bay south of Cuba, the Bahamas, and the Bermuda Triangle. Areas in the Pacific and Indian Oceans have also been proposed including Indonesia (i.e. Sundaland). Some have put it near India.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 ATLANTIS WAS IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN..IDIOT..AND WAS FOUNDED BY THE GREEK GOD POSEIDON!....OUST!
nixter888 2 months ago
@Predental19 Dardanus (Greek: Δάρδανος) was a son of Zeus and Electra, daughter of Atlas, and founder of the city of Dardania on Mount Ida in the Troad.
Dionysius of Halicarnassus (1.61--62) states that Dardanus' original home was in Arcadia Peloponnisos Greece,where Dardanus and his elder brother Iasus reigned as kings following Atlas. Dardanus married Chryse daughter of Pallas by whom he fathered two sons: Idaeus and Dymas.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Zeus is a god you greek animal! There is no such thing as this "Dardanus", stop using WIKI to educate your ignorant hairy ass. It makes no sense, the gods don't exist, listen to reality you greek slave. Dardanus never existed! Yawn! Alaksandu is a REAL MAN, for he is mentioned by the Hittites, this was discovered years ago. Proof is in the pudding you greek animal. Troy was LUWIAN, in other words very much Hittite!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 CLOSE YOUR MOUTH IDIOT!..YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL A GREAT GREEK HAIRY ASS?..CALL YOUR UGLY SELF THAT ..BASTARD!...DARDANELLES IS A PLACE IN TURKEY...IDIOT....The name Dardanelles derives from Dardania, an ancient land on the Asian shore of the strait which in turn takes its name from Dardanus, the mythical son of Zeus and Electra....IDIOT...ONE MORE THINK IDIOT!..THERE ARE THE GREEKS THE SONS OF GOD,AND THE DOG BARBARIANS LIKE YOU!..OUST NOW!
nixter888 2 months ago
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@Predental19 When a great flood occurred, the survivors, who were living on mountains that had later become islands, split into two groups: one group remained and took Deimas as King while the other sailed away, eventually settling in the island of Samothrace. There, Iasus was slain by Zeus for lying with Demeter. Dardanus and his people found the land poor and so most of them set sail for Asia. All occuring WAY BEFORE ANY HITTITES EVER LIVED THERE.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago 2
@Predental19 Dardanus' children by Batea (2nd Wife) were Ilus, Erichthonius, Idaea and Zacynthus. Ilus died before his father. According to Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Zacynthus was the first settler on the island afterwards named by the same name, Zacynthus. Dardanus' other son Erichthonius, had a son by the name of TROS. TROS' son, Ilus FOUNDED TROY in 3000 BC, and the name TROY was derived from his father, TROS.
Take that u fuckin APE!!! Muhahahahaha.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
No such thing, you foolish greek animal! Erichthonius never existed, Troy first appears as a settlement 31st century BC. Illus didn't exist, stop using Wikipedia to educate yourself. Illus never founded troy, because he did not exist, there is no proof, GREEK MYTHS, are just that, MYTHS that aren't true. The Trojans spoke Luwian, this is a language closely related to the language the Hittites speak. All historians know this, even the educated greek historians admit this.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 ERICHTHONIUS NEVER EXISTED YOU SAID ,,BASTARD..ON THE TOP OF THE ACROPOLIS LIE HIS TOMB,..BASTARD...AND IT'S CALLED THE ERECHTHEION ..BASTARD.it..has been built in honor of the legendary king Erechtheus....The Trojans spoke Homeric Greek...idiot...and that's a fact !
nixter888 2 months ago
@Predental19 The long history of Troy narrates the development of a wealthy trade city with sporadic tragic episodes, natural disasters, fires, massacres and wars. Troy was also known as Ilios or Ilion, a name which can be found in the Iliad, Homer`s epic poem, where the poet immortalized the city through mythological characters like King Priam, Hector, Paris and the beautiful Helen. ALL GREEKS. Who spoke Homeric Greek. Greek names, Greek Architecture, Greek Gods, Greek Language, etc...
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
In your your moronic greek animal. You greeks are so ignorant and stupid. Priam didn't exist, there was a king named Piyamaradu, which the greeks stole and made the name greek. Piyamaradu is a renegade (or adventurer) who seizes the throne in Wilusa after slaying the king. According to Hittite texts he has the help of Ahhiyawa. He is mention in about 1295 BC and 1250 BC, and in the past tense in about 1245 BC.
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Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 SO THE GREEK TEXT IS NOT TRUTH,AND THE HITTITES IS E?...YOUR MIND DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY ,ANIMAL!...ACCORDING TO GREEK TEXTS..IDIOT.. WHICH ARE THE TRUE ONES AND THE ORIGINAL, TROY WAS GREEK AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT,.NAME THE CHILDREN OF PRIAMOS..IDIOT IN HITTITE...THERE IS NOTHING TO MENTION ABOUT THEM!.children of Priam and Hecuba Helenus , Cassandra; Ilione; Deiphobus; Troilus; Polites; Creusa,PARIS-ALEXANDROS,HECTOR.. YOU HAVE NOTHING IN HITTITE IDIOT!..
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
He seizes Wilusa in about 1295 BC, is overthrown by the Hittites and replaced by Alaksandu (who himself is not necessarily a blood relative of Kikunni's), and ends up in Miletus where he is aided by the brother of the king of Ahhiyawa. 1295 BC is about the time where you greek apes claim that Heracles took troy, but only in your dreams. It was Piyamaradu who took Wilusa (Troy) in 1295 BC, not some crazy tale told by a crazy greek about a son of god that doesn't exist.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Despite his name being similar to that of the Priam of Greek legend, his career sounds very different, so the link between the two that some scholars favour seems doubtful. In otherwords, the Priam of greek mythology is a figment of the greek's stupid imagination. The real Trojan War is this fight between the Hittites with Aleksandu as an ally and Piyama-Radu and his greek slaves.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 TALK TALK TALK your nonsense!....Relax take your breath and listen!...ALEKSANDU E?...DO YOU MEAN.. ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ=ALEXANDER= defender of men?.. from alexein "to ward off, keep off, turn (something) away, defend, protect" + aner (gen. andros) "man?....THE HITTITES COPIED THE GREEK NAMES!...They lived at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia NOTHING TO DO WITH TROY, WHICH WAS A GREEK CITY!...CLOSE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH NOW ABOUT TROY..IDIOT!..THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
So stupid, you are so blinded by your pride of being a hairy Greek animal, that you ignore proof and evidence. Aleksandu is infact a Luwian name, the greeks are famous for Hellenizing names that aren't Greek name. They did this to Egyptian, Jewish, and African names, as they did the same thing to Trojan names.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 ALEXANDROS=ΑΛΕΧΑΝΔΡΟΣ Α 100% Α GREEK NAME ..IDIOT.... from Gk. Alexandros "defender of men," from alexein "to ward off, keep off, turn (something) away, defend, protect" + aner (gen. andros) "man" (see anthropo-). The first element is related to Gk. alke "protection, help, strength, power, courage," alkimos "strong;" cognate with Skt. raksati "protects," O.E. ealgian "to defend."...IDIOT...
nixter888 2 months ago
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@Predental19 Totum Graecorum est " (=Άπαντα είναι των Ελλήνων) Cicero, =everything belongs to the Greeks CICERO.
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
Proof:
"One of its most famous sons is Herodotus of Halicarnassus, His father was Lyxes, a Greek rendering of a good Carian name, Lukhsu."
You greek common thieves of Carian cultures did this, the father of Herodotus was named Lukhsu, this name was wholly CARIAN, and the greeks turned it to Lyxes, because you are greek apes who steal people's cultures!!!! Pathetic! You greek bastards did this to Egyptian names, and turned it to greek names.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 CLOSE YOUR MOUTH BARBARIAN AND SEE THE TRUTH!...LYXES AND HAS A GREEK ETYMOLOGY,FROM THE WORD Greek kalux shell, from kaluptein to cover, hide] AND THE THIEVES STOLE IT FROM THE GREEKS!...IDIOT!
nixter888 2 months ago
@Predental19 the Trojan War is an historical event; and though even less than 1,400 years BC is the date assigned to it, yet in truth it is nearer 6,000 than 5,000 years BC" (The Secret Doctrine 2:437n), Especially THE MYCENAEAN CITADEL,MORE THAN 6000 B.C......BEHAVE NOW!
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Homer's build-up to the fall of Troy includes various events in western Anatolia which could also be attributed to a Hittite campaign. The timeframe for this theory fits better with Piyama-Radu being Priam, and his being succeeded by Aleksandu (Paris). The arrival of Mycenaeans on the coast could be a confusion with later migrations (after 1200 BC) which perhaps have to fight coastal Anatolians to be able to secure a foothold.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The greek mind being that of a ancient Egyptian child's mind will merge these two different events into one. The greeks have no sense, they do not try to make sense of everything, but like children they make up these tales while entertaining is not true or Historical. The single, ten year war is probably Homer's collecting together of an ongoing conflict, as at one point a Hittite letter to a Mycenaean king briefly waves aside the Wilusa 'problem'.
Predental19 2 months ago
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@Predental19 It was the Greeks who where resposible for both Western Civilisation and world Civilization! The Greeks where the super power of very Ancient Times!. Their Greek infrastructure that they created because Greece is where Humanity originated from as well.Greece Was The First Western Civilization and of Mankind to rose up and develope back in the late Stone Age and Early Bronze Age right after the last Ice Age period to creat for its self a Human Civilization of Mankind..
nixter888 2 months ago
@Predental19 NOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME..BASTARD!...I DARE YOU!
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SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The Hittites were a powerful civilization that controlled most of Anatolia in the second millennium B.C. Anatolia is a greek made up name, but the name of the whole country was Haiti. Their language, written in cuneiform script on clay tablets, was recovered and deciphered at TROY! From what we now can understand from the Hittite sources, the Arzawa land Wilusa identified with the archaeological site of Troy, was a point of conflict between the Hittites and the Greece.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 The mythical ancestor, named Thrax, son of the Greek war-god Ares, who was said to reside in Thrace, was a Greek u fkn moron. The Thracians appear in Homer's Iliad as Trojan allies, led by Acamas (Greek name), a Greek and Peiros (Greek name), a Greek. Later in the Iliad, Rhesus, another Thracian king, makes an appearance. Cisseus, father-in-law to the Trojan elder Antenor, is also given as a Thracian king. ALL GREEKS WITH 100% GREEK NAMES.
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@Predental19 Kilikia, was founded by Kilix the son of Aginor, the king of Thybes in Greece. Phrygia was also a Greek colony, as was Lycia (an ally of Troy) which was named after Lycus, the son of Pandion II of Athens. The Lycian contingent was said to have been led by two esteemed warriors: Sarpedon (son of the Greek God Zeus and Laodamia) and Glaucus (son of Hippolochus).
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@Predental19 Elsewhere in Greek mythology, the Lycian Kingdom was said to have been ruled by another King named Sarpedon, a Cretan exile and brother of the King Minos. ALL GREEKS. Later, the Lycian League first came together around 205 B.C. and was formally established in 168 B.C. under democratic principles. It comprised some 23 known city-states as members. The major cities of the League included Xanthos, Patara, Pinara, Olympos, Myra, and Tlos. ALL ETYMOLOGICALLY GREEK Names Founded by GREEKS
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@Predental19 As for the Trojans: Alexandros-Paris, Helenus, Cassandra, Ilione, Deiphobus, Troilus, Polites, Creusa, Aeneas, Laodice, (wife of Helicaon), Polyxena, Primaos, Hector.. All etymologically GREEK names. if they aren't Greek u fuckin Distorter and Falsifier of facts, then what are they?! Turkish maybe?! After all, according to ur stupidity, Troy belonged to the Turks even though they arrived in the 10th century A.D. LOLLLL FKN IGNORANT IDIOT
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
If you read the Iliad, you would think you had the answer—the Trojans were basically Greeks. ather like Star Trek, heroes from the opposing sides in Homer’s poem can carry on conversations without any translators. Is this to hard for you to understand you fucking son of a greek whore? Homer was a greek, so like a greek nazi, he would have the Trojans speak Greek when everyone knows they do not! Nonetheless, the assumption that the Trojans were a variety of Greek is WRONG!
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
None of those Greek names are historical. Alexandros (Paris) are names that Homer came up with, Alaksandu is the actual name, and was actually a name found in the Hittite capital, and at Troy itself, so in other words Alaksandu is a Luwian name! The Iliad is a poetic piece of art, albeit in my opinion the greatest ever written. Unfortunately, history and poetry do not always coincide. Why is it so hard for you greeks to understand? Troy will never be greek, they are LUWIAN!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 U Moron.. u talk about scripts on tablets and writings yet that doesn't prove anything about the Hittites being the first settlers there let alone the founders of Troy. Ur statements are shadowy & vague u brainwashed troll.
Alexander is a 100% GREEK Name with GREEK Etymology.
The name Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) derives from the Greek verb "ἀλέξω" (alexō), "to ward off, to avert, to defend" and the noun "ἀνδρός" (andros), genitive of "ἀνήρ" (anēr), "man" and means "protector of men."
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Later Greek myths (from the sixth century) say that Helen spends the duration of the Trojan War in Egypt rather than Troy, and that after the war the Mycenaeans go there to recover her and are identified by the Egyptians as Sea Peoples. Myths from the six century can't compete with historical tablets and writings you brainless greek pig. It proves that Luwian people who are related to the Hittites did indeed founded Wilusa (The real name of Troy.
Predental19 2 months ago
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@Predental19 YOU ARE THE PIG!,,DO NOT FORGET THAT YOU TALK TO A GREAT GREEK..IDIOT...THE ONE THAT GAVE YOU EVERYTHING,AND BROUGHT YOU OUT OF YOUR ANIMAL STATE AND TOUGH YOU HOW TO LIVE!..BARBARIANS,...YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO UNDERRATE THE GREEKS,AND STARTED PLAYING SMART WITH THEIR KNOWLEDGE!...STOP YOUR NONSENSE,!...TROJANS WERE GREAT GREEKS,AND THEY BELIEVE IN THE GREEK GODS,THEY HAD GREEK ARCHITECTURE,CLOTHING CULTURE,AND LANGUAGE !...GO TO HELL NOW!
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
In the 1920s the Swiss scholar Emil Forrer claimed that placenames found in Hittite texts — Wilusa and Taruisa — should be identified with Ilium and Troia respectively. He further noted that the name of Alaksandus, king of Wilusa, mentioned in one of the Hittite texts is quite similar to the name of Prince Alexandros or Paris of Troy.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 WHAT DID THE MONGOL TURKS DID ..IDIOT?..BRING BLIGHT TO THE WORLD?....BEHAVE NOW AND LOOK AT YOUR MISERY!....In the concluding section of the Minos (318c ff), Socrates praises the oldest
law, that given to Crete by Minos, who in Socrates’s characterization
obtained this law as a result of his status as confidant of Zeus, Minos’s
father (319d–e)
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
The Hittite king Mursili II in ca. 1320 BC wrote a letter to the king of the Ahhiyawa, treating him as an equal and implying that Millawanda (Miletus) was controlled by the Ahhiyawa, and also referring to an earlier "Wilusa episode" involving hostility on the part of the Ahhiyawa. This people has been identified with the Homeric Greeks (Achaeans).
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Trevor Bryce in 1998 championed them in his book The Kingdom of the Hittites, citing a recovered piece of the Manapa-Tarhunda letter, which refers to the kingdom of Wilusa as beyond the land of the Seha (known in classical times as the Caicus) river, and near the land of Lazpa (the Isle of Lesbos). There is your proof you greek barbarian. Recent evidence adds weight to the theory that Wilusa is identical to archaeological Troy.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Hittite texts mention a water tunnel at Wilusa, and a water tunnel excavated by Korfmann, previously thought to be Roman, has been dated to around 2600 BC. Why would the Hittites mention this, if they had not been the overlords and rulers of Wilusa (Troy)? It is apparent to me that Wilusa was ruled by Luwian vassals of the Hittites. No text or artifact has been found on site itself which clearly the word "Troy" in Wilusa. Funny, huh you greek animal?
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
While no greek texts or the name of "Troy" was founded in the site, a single seal of a Luwian scribe has been found in one of the houses, proving the presence of written correspondence in the city, but not a single text. Our emerging understanding of the geography of the Hittite Empire makes it very likely that the site corresponds to the city of Wilusa. LMAO you greek ape! Stop trying to steal history.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19
ΒΡΕ ΗΛΙΘΙΕ,
WHERE DID THE INSCRIPTION ''WILUSA'' FOUNDED?
HOW THE ARCAIOLOGISTS FOUND THE WORD ''WILUSA'' BUT THEY DIDNT FOUND THE WORDS ''ΙΛΙΟΝ'' OR ''ΤΡΟΙΑ''?
YOU MORON IN AGES WHERE ONLY THE GREEK ALPHABET WAS KNOWN IN THE AEGEAN TERRITORY HOW THE FUCK CAN SOMEONE FOUND INSCRIPTION IN LATIN ALPHABET WHICH ARRIVES FROM GREEK ALPHABET MANE AEONS AFTER?
ΖΥΓΙΣΤΗΚΕΣ?
POSA KILA MALAKAS EISAI?
PES MAS!
POTIS1 2 months ago
@POTIS1
You idiot the word "Wilusa" was found in LUWIAN, the archeologists deciphered it, and the word they got was "WILUSA". LOL! Stop playing dumb you greek idiot!!!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 AYTHENTIC GREEK ..ILION =LATIN ILIUM, =HITTITE WILUSA .......BEHAVE NOW ..IDIOT...
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Historical Wilusa was one of the Arzawa lands, in loose alliance with the Hittite Empire, and written reference to the city is therefore to be expected in Hittite correspondence. The ostensible historicity of Homer's Troy faces the same hurdles as with Plato's Atlantis. In both cases, an ancient writer's story is now seen by some to be true, by others to be mythology or fiction.
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 As touching your citizens of nine thousand years ago,SOLON SAID THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST,.. I will briefly inform you of their laws and of their most famous action; the exact particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure in the sacred registers themselves. If you compare these very laws with ours you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours as they were in the olden time. .....
nixter888 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
No historical city of Troy existed anywhere: the name derives from a people called the Troies, who probably lived in central Greece. Troy doesn't exist, but the Hittite Wilusa does in fact exist, because the Hittites were infact the rulers of Wilusa (Troy). The story of the Iliad is not an account of the war, but a tale of the psychology, the wrath, vengence and death of individual heroes that assumes common knowledge of the Trojan War to create a backdrop. It is just MYTH!
Predental19 2 months ago
@Predental19 . You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and afterwards she founded ours, of which the constitution is recorded in our sacred registers to be eight thousand years old. ....
nixter888 2 months ago
@nixter888
All greek fairy-tales. Greeks, when will you understand the difference between myth and facts? Troy is and will always be Luwian. There is no if and or butts. Wilusa (Troy) has no record of greek, the writings discovered is Luwian in Wilusa (Troy), no greek! Why is this? Why couldn't they find record for greek writing at Wilusa?
Predental19 2 months ago
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@Predental19 It's not Alaksandu u stupid idiot. IT'S ALEXANDER!! Learn it well!!!
TROY is a GREEK name. TROY derives from TROS (the eponym of Troy), son of King Erichthonius of Dardania, grandson of Zeus and Electra, and of Astyocheia, daughter of the river god Simoeis. It is an indusputable Fact that it was from TROS that the Dardanians were called Trojans and the land named the Troad.
U'll NEVER Prevail u fucking Troll.
TROY FOREVER GREECE!!!!!!!!
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago 2
@Predental19 It's strongly suggested for ur sake that u shut ur fkn uneducated mouth as opposed to embarrasing urself in front of all us Greeks who'll just end up putting u in ur place every single time. U know SHIT about SHIT all u do is Falsify & Alter Facts. U're a jealous fuck with no History and nothing to be proud of. U'll NEVER Prevail U African Monkey. History is Written The whole educated world KNOWS the TRUTH
TROY FOREVER GREECE!!
THESSALY FOREVER GREECE!!
MACEDONIA FOREVER GREECE!!
SpartanKing2782 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Scholarly opinion now leans toward identifying the Trojans as part of the LUWIAN peoples who occupied large swaths of what we now call Turkey, primarily in the Western and Southeastern portions, throughout the Bronze Ages. Most of what we know about the Luwians is found in the Hittite texts which include a lot of Luwian information in the Luwian language. If you want to understand the Trojans/Luwians, by necessity you must examine the Hittites.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Studying the Hittites to understand the Luwians/Trojans is useful because they are closely related culturally and religiously. The Luwians and Hittites were Indo-European, not the dark skinned GREEKS, who look and smell like mongols! The Luwians were very fair, just like the Hittites. Luwian, as a language, is part of a closely related group including Hittite, Palaic, Lycian, Lydian, and Carian.
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Linguistically the Hittites and Luwians were close in many ways, and language is a significant cultural determinor. The Hittite language directly borrowed many Luwian words. Indeed by the height of the Hittite empire, a majority of the residents of Hattusa, the Hittite capital, spoke Luwian. The Hittite king and royal family spoke both Luwian and Hittite. The only piece of writing from Troy, a hieroglyphic seal, is written in Luwian. (GREEK asshole, only evidence shows LUWIAN).
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
Luwian was written in both cuneiform and hieroglyphics depending on the context. Also the oldest form of the name for Troy known to the Hittites, Wilusiya-, is a Luwian formulation. The later Hittite name for Troy is Wilusa. (Greek monkey, who wins? Homer or the oldest form of the name for "Troy" which was "Wilusiya"). LOL! A wide variety of religious influences between the Hittites and Luwians can be found in the written evidence. Luwian and Hittite relgious texts were similar
Predental19 2 months ago
@SpartanKing2782
That means the actual ritual practices of the Hittites would include Luwian elements. Only one piece of writing has been found at Troy, a hieroglyphic seal, the Hittite side of correspondence and treaties with the Trojans and others in this Luwian area are extant, so we know that the kings of Troy/Wilusa had scribes and written records. . Ancient Anatolia is a patchwork of peoples–Luwian, Hurrian, Hatti, etc. AHAHA! Your are but a common greek thief!