Tournament rules always a problem. Not easy to adapt rules to the nature of a weapon, have my own experience on it. As I understood you tried in Capo Ferro. Didn't read anywhere that he taught, you have to throw you into the enemy rapier to neutralize it. ;0)
But I gather you had much fun at Vienna. I tried to go but finally had no time ...
Impossible to tell who is doing what. The fencing styles are very similar even when the costumed guy is more static (the spanish??). Both working linear, their positions and actions are closer the modern sport fencing than the historical Capo Ferro/spanish destrezza and their sword play is that of light bladed modern weapons and not of heavier italien/spanish rapier. The characteristic of 17th century rapier play is: taking the blade, staying in contact and no separation of parry and riposte.
Actually this is more like a sabre fight, because whilst the weapons are of correct weight and dimensions, the rules set for the tournament placed equal emphasis on cut and thrust, which isn't representative of a real rapier fight, sadly I didn't make the rules, only had to fight to win under them.
When running Rapier tournaments myself I place much larger emphasis on the thrust and only score cuts to areas that would be effective. Tournament rule sets are of course always improving.
@mhewer2 Ironically, I had a long discussion regarding this activity with on of the historic fencing adepts - to me this is a parody of modern sport fencing (sabre). Take any mediocre sabreurist - and this guys will be beaten in 20 second. Period.
Tournament rules always a problem. Not easy to adapt rules to the nature of a weapon, have my own experience on it. As I understood you tried in Capo Ferro. Didn't read anywhere that he taught, you have to throw you into the enemy rapier to neutralize it. ;0)
But I gather you had much fun at Vienna. I tried to go but finally had no time ...
mhewer2 1 year ago
Impossible to tell who is doing what. The fencing styles are very similar even when the costumed guy is more static (the spanish??). Both working linear, their positions and actions are closer the modern sport fencing than the historical Capo Ferro/spanish destrezza and their sword play is that of light bladed modern weapons and not of heavier italien/spanish rapier. The characteristic of 17th century rapier play is: taking the blade, staying in contact and no separation of parry and riposte.
mhewer2 1 year ago
Actually this is more like a sabre fight, because whilst the weapons are of correct weight and dimensions, the rules set for the tournament placed equal emphasis on cut and thrust, which isn't representative of a real rapier fight, sadly I didn't make the rules, only had to fight to win under them.
When running Rapier tournaments myself I place much larger emphasis on the thrust and only score cuts to areas that would be effective. Tournament rule sets are of course always improving.
Nikos3000 1 year ago
@mhewer2 Ironically, I had a long discussion regarding this activity with on of the historic fencing adepts - to me this is a parody of modern sport fencing (sabre). Take any mediocre sabreurist - and this guys will be beaten in 20 second. Period.
drysabre 4 months ago