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  • So why send someone to hell for something he is not responsible for?

  • @mjazzguitar

    Firsty i would like to quote Surat As-Saffat, Ayah 96 Allah said (which means) "Allah created you and your doings"

    Allah knew and Willed Eternally that some of His slaves will be misguided. Allah does as He Wills, He owns us and we do not object to Him, He is just in whatever he Willed to be.

    We are responsible for our actions because we have a will. Our will falls under the Will of Allah. If we will to do something that Allah Eternally never Willed to be, it shall not be

  • HT and similar groups are funded by Saudi Arabia and are akin to the Khawarij.

    They are hypocrites, and we'll use force murder brutality in the name of Allah(swt).

    They brand others kaffir and kufr when they themselves are Kaffir and kufr.

    They commit shirk by acting as Allah(swt), making judgments and doing deeds and calling them his deeds.

    Like imperialists and fascists they need to be dealt harshly.

    We muslim communists are ready but are u?

    Ramadan Mubarak

    God bless Communism

  • Hizb ut tahrir are a very deviant group.

  •  Nabhani also says in Shaksiyyah Volume 1:

    'there is clear indication that the one who does the guiding and misguiding is Allah (SWT) and not the servant. This means the servant does not find guidance by himself, rather he is guided when Allah (SWT) guides him. When Allah (SWT) sends him astray he goes astray.'

    I think you may have accidentally misqouted him. May Allah prevent us from any wrong doing. Ameen.

  • @Historicalia

    He contradicts himself many times in the same book and on different subjects. In the same volume on page 71 & 72 he says: "These actions (i.e., the actions of man) are not related to Allahs creating and Allahs creating is not related to them, because man is the one who performs them by his will and choice, thereupon, the voluntary actions do not fall under Allahs creating."

    Its not a misqoute even his followers agree to this belief.

  • but what we realy need at this moment is for a khilapha to come, as it is the first 3orwa that has been destroyed it must come back first.so do you have a solution?

    This is what the ummah needs.

  • @7aniba3al

    Yes we do need one but that doesnt mean to support this fanatic and misguided group. The only time we will get a caliph is when imam al-Mahdi is brought forth as there are too much sects declaring eevryone as kuffar and the wahhabis are also spreading their fitnah rapidly

  • Imam an-Nasafiyy in his Aqeedah said if a man threw a stone at a glass, then this act of throwing and breaking are by the Creation of Allah and not the slave, the slave would only have acquired this act and NOT THE CREATING OF IT!

    Because Allah is the Creator of this man, his intention, his hand, his movement, the throwing and the breaking.

  • The belief you have is the same as the Qadariyyah (those who deny al-Qadr). Ibn Asakir in Tareekh Dimashq in the 48th volume narrated that Imam Al-Awzaiyy debated with a Qadariyyah defeated him and declared him as a kaffir to the Caliph at the time. The Caliph chopped his head, arms and legs and hung him on the border of Dimashq for all to see and to warn others of them.

    May Allah protect us from such beleifs. Allah is the Creator of everything!!

  • My grandfather used to be part of this group. Alhamdullilah, he tells me

    " Everything is by the Will of Allah ". Many people who are part of this group don't have such beliefs -- I've seen it with my eyes.

    In the book labelled " The Islamic Personality " does negate the Essential Belief of Muslims explicitly because it claims humans create some things.

    Before we seek establishing khaliphah, lets make sure people name their kids, Muhammad, Abdullah, and Fatimah by teaching the proper Creed

  • Thanks for the info. I was not aware of this link to the Hizp! I hope they get the clear message of the Holy Quran.

  • @Brotherofheart

    Salaams, brother why dont you meet to discuss this InshAllah. Get in touch.

  • @aeromc

    Our Shaykhs have already debated and given proof to yours but they never took the advice, that is why it is a must to warn from the ugly beliefs of hizb tahiri

  • I spoke to senior members of Hizb ut Tahrir, man creates his own action so far as..to the extent of..his reponsibility not that its is not denying that mans action is within the will and knowledge of Allah (swa).

  • According to this belief that humans create their own actions and not Allah, means that there are things are brought into existence without His Will, do you see how ugly this beleif is

    claiming 'Why will Allah Will bad for someone then punish him' doesnt justify your claims. Allah does as He Wills, we belong to Allah, He Knew and Willed eternally that some will be Muslims and others wont.

    WHO CREATED SATAN? Allah Knew he will be the leader of Kuffar, and Allah created him and his actions

  • Hizb ut tahrir is the only group that is fighting for a khilafah!

    May ALLAH (swt) reward their efforts

  • @1World1Khilafah

    It doesnt change the fact that they hold ugly beliefs about Allah.

  • Maybe you have to see the tafseer of the ayaat from difrrent big muffassirien. I know the verses and the vision of sheikh taqiuddien annabhani. A really strong idea they gaved me in the halaqaat in the Netherlands.

    As my brother sad, you have spend lot of time in reasearching the hizb ut-tahrir. Dit you also discusses with this greatfull party? :)

  • I take tafseer from ibn abbas, Imam ar-raziyy, Al-Qurtubiyy, al Andalusi ect not from the likes of Sayyid Qutb or Ibn Taymiyyah.

    Alot of supporters of Hazb Tahrir dont know that their leaders hold this belief, if you can read arabic i suggest you have a look for yourself, if people were to follow this belief that Nabahaniyy had (that humans create their own actions and not Allah) they will fall into kuffar, so its a must to warn our muslim brothers and sisters

  • @Brotherofheart

    I meaned the tafsier of the writer, sheikh Taqiuddien Annabhani (ra).

    I just asked to some shabaab (not an official hizb ut-tahrir answer). They sad hizb ut-tahrir leaved that answer open. They didnt answered to that question. If Allah says it is than it is so.

    The issiue is, the people begon to discuss about the question if a persons can do what he wants or not and if they reactions have been created. HuT gaved an answer tot the question if someone can do whatever he wants

  • Subhanallah, is this all you have time for? while muslims are being killed and islam is being attacked. Have you not visited this persons disgusting website where he attacks Muslims.

    Prophet (SAW) said: 'You will not enter Paradise until you have faith, and you will not have faith until you love each other. Shall I direct you to something which if you fulfill you will love one another? Spread peace among yourselves.' (It was reported by Muslim)

  • Warning from extremists and misguided groups spreading their falsehood is a must in Islam, Alhumdulillah there are brothers spreading dawah and others defending it, i am warning other Muslims not to fall for extremists like hizb tahrir, hizb al ikwan and wahhabis.

    They have done nothing for this nation except accuse Muslims of shirk, declare Jihad and kill innocent people and hide behind Islam, may Allah protect from from the likes of hizb Tahrir and their ugly beliefs.

  • @Brotherofheart

    Whenhave HT killed innocent people. HT are non violent. Yes they may support our brothers fighting Jihad in Iraq, palestine, Afghanistan etc but so domost muslims. We should all support our brothers who are fighting occupation and defending the deen.

    HT are working for the Ummah and trying to establish a Khilafah state. I Support them in this!

  • Im not denying that they are supporting Muslims fighting and i am not attacking them in this sense, however those who are being taught the religion by Hizb tarir need to be careful from some of their beliefs.

    Its not about them being terrorists or not, but some of the beliefs their leaders hold is kuffar, not all their leaders, supporters or followers know or hold these beliefs however, so they must be warned.

    Allah is the only Creator, He created everything including both good and evil.

  • salaam brotherofheart. loved this vid, it was very informative for me. till date i havent heard of a group known as the hizb ut tahrir.... who r these clowns, bro ?

  • Hizb Tahrir have similar beliefs to the mu`tazila. They believe we create our own actions, good or bad. And that is doesnt fall under the creating of Allah, which is a clear opposition to the Quran and Sahih hadith.

    they are small in number approx 2 million now but have spread in lebanon, syria, egypt and even in indonesia and malaysia and have strong supporters in the UK.

    Ahlu Sunnah has many enemies but we will always fight and defend Islam, by the Will of Allah

  • @Brotherofheart

    astagfiruLLAH. there are jahmi mutazilas also present in our times? ALLAH save us from their evil ameen.

    this is a great addition to your uploads bro. first u dealt with mujassimas, and now with jahmis inshALLAH.

    good job bro, once again.

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