You should use the term Climate change. Your idea isn't that bad, but it won't solve anything. Green roofs isn't the way to go, the concentration of concrete absorbing heat and the skyscraper obstructing the flow of air is what make the temp in the big cities higher. It is a waste of time trying to prevent climate change, we can avoid small things like flooding, but we can't avoid hurricanes, earthquake, excessive heat or cold, however we can adapt or improve the way we are creating societies.
you might as well take the windows off of cars because there would be no way that i would poke my head out , down there isolated with car emissions haha good idea though. Society doesn't care though, they care more about celebrities and material objects more than anything.
@mrxtreme352 - "Society doesn't care though, they care more about celebrities and material objects more than anything."
who gives a fuck about them, the future is for real people not assholes.
being uber-real though - lots of celebs at least promote green-sanity anyway, so their fans should know better. also - one reason society is fucked up is lack of reverence for material objects. making anything should be for-life for the most part, and not waste any material, & have a good purpose.
@PrairleDogged = satanic jewmason conspiracy of soul-raping subhuman useless-eater scabs.
scabs get no further info on how to grow crops properly cause scabs were never meant to have been made by the alien scabs that genetically engineered them in the first place, then left them here to rape the planet.
@PrairleDogged - don't insult me scumfuck. you're a subhuman child-molester scab that can't even feel you should kill yourself just based on how stupid your comments are.
you're elasticjesusrez, you call me that as part of your conspiracy to claim you are Tesla in the future & that i'll turn into you, which is total lies cause you're not and i won't, i've been me all along, you can't ever not be who you are.
you are a paedo satanist, kill yourself faggot scab subhuman.
I fully understand your point JSP and agree with many of your points regards the lizardyalien thingyjobbies but please don't repeat it as the PF will put you down.
@PrairleDogged - you understand nothing, scab, especially not about aliens or human origins or what-who-why made the universe/s, and why you are in the bodies you're in etc. nothing at all. you are the procurator fiscal faggot, same masonic-jew-satanist conspiracy that invented false-law that made scum like you.
@PrairleDogged - see, again you raped children so you could override the block on you subscribing to my channel.
there's no way you can go against my free-will like you do without murdering innocent life as sacirfices to the part of you in 4th dimension, the astral demi-urge perverted satanic soul-rapist.
icke is a fake like jones is, part of your anti-gaian conspiracy.
@PrairleDogged - so what logic does your tiny dyslexic jumbled schizo mind think you will achieve, by sending me a message addressed to someone besides me yet again for the millionth time, which itself contains a pointless waster message of no substance (like all your arguements against climate-change being man-made)? you think that can make it seem like you are me?! or that you are jesus?
of course you aren't jesus & you sure aren't me. you're you - the fucktard.
@PrairleDogged - another comment that only makes any sense inside your twisted sick feeble evil brain.
you have just posted my name & address again, so why hasn't my coin been left here like you said you would do?
do you even know what green thing you are talking about there? did it exist ever? where is it, when you wrote that comment where did you see it supposedly existing? what is it for do you think?
@PrairleDogged - where's my coin scumfuck? you claimed you wanted to return it, then claimed you didn't have my details - then you posted them again, as you had also done again the previous day, and at your sick cloned satanic channel.
so? where is it cunt? and how did you come to have it or know of me to begin with?
@PrairleDogged - i'm not your fake-jesus anti-christ channel 'chris'.
it is obvious that is you - you say i'm created by you from that channel, in your prairLe-cloned channel there you say you are me, and in your lordfuckwit-hawhaw channel you say i'm your anti-christ channel.
being involved in occult abuse is confusing for you isn't it faggot?
@PrairleDogged WHEN FAGGOT? BACK IN TIME TO MANY YEARS AGO WHEN IT EXISTED? AND I DON'T SUPPOSE YOU CAN PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF YOURSELF - THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ME, GIVEN YOU GIVE ME MY OWN TELEPHONE NUMBER AND ASK ME TO TEXT YOU ON IT?
CUNT YOU'RE THE SAME FAG THAT POSTED AS ALIAS AT BILLHICKS FORUM YEARS AGO - YOU DIDN'T SHOW AT THE RON JONHSON 'MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS' READING, BORDERS, THEN LIED CLAIMING YOU DID SHOW AT THE FORUM NEXT DAY.
@PrairleDogged - WHY DON'T YOU SHOW UP AT JAMIE OLIVERS NEW RESTAURANT ON MONDAY AT 11AM, AND ASK FOR THE TIME-BENDER TABLE TO TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME TO BORDERS WHEN YOU CLAIMED YOU WERE ABLE TO SHOW UP FOR THAT READING BUT NEVER.
why do you spend your useless-eater life posting fake questions scumfuck?
ARE YOU STILL LYING CLAIMING TREES CAN BE PLANTED SAFELY ON PUBLIC PROPERTY? AND THEN YOU POST FROM YOUR RYAN MONCKTUP CHANNEL THERE HOW YOU CHAINSAW THEM ALL DEAD ANYWAY.
WHY NOT ANSWER THE POSTS YOU ALWAYS REPLY TO FUCKSCUM?
Grown forests are neutral and do not draw CO2 in net amounts once they are established. Trees only capture Co2 while they grow, and in very little amounts anyway compared to the amounts industry releases. Also, most of the Co2 release/capture action happens in the oceans. Also, the surface of all cities is minuscule compared to the cleared land used for farming. Start by turning farms into forests, not cities, and then come back to us. Only real way is for 95% of us to die, including me.
Check out Arcosanti(dot)org... These are not your ideas, they have been around for many decades (sustainable city)... Everything you explained in here can be made possible through Arcology's, if done properly and in some ways related to this video. The major difference would be in the rate of Urban sprawl, which in turn causes other positive changes.
I like what you are saying. If you only get a city to plant trees in the buildings, we can make sure that co2 does not get created. How about this; Fuck You. You made a good commission on this project, yet it was paid for by; Who?
There is one good point from this. This is how we should start colonizing other planets. Underground... we can find the optimum temperatures underground for sustained life.
There are things we could be mining on other planets such as H3 on the moon.
@OxAO Yes, living underground is very practical for purposes of living on other planets and i dare to say, on this planet as well. I like all sorts of sci-fi progressive ideas as well, like ringworld and all that crap. Unfortunately a more practical alternative is for 95% of us to die, including me, so the people left can live off hydroelectric power. BTW, me commiting suicide right now doesnt work unless 9 out of 10 do it as well.
@OxAO Extremely low. I do not fear global warming, but i know there are far worse forms of degradation, the worse being massive deforestation and mass extinctions, thats what breaks my heart. 95% of humans do not contribute to civilization and are just useless eaters and killers of the biosphere, consuming consuming without enriching existence. The world will better without them and yes, i'll probably be gone with them.
You may also know we are still presently in the quaternary ice age with glaciation right around the corner?
My guess when it takes place is during one of the solar minimums equal to the Maunder Minimum which the next one starts in about 15 years. They take place every 400 years or so
@OxAO Theres lots of disinformation out there about all sorts of topics, i was a normal guy not too long ago, now i'm considered a nutjob. What do i know, i only have two degrees in physics.
Disinformation? are you suggesting we are not in an Ice Age and glaciation isn't coming?
the difference between you and I. I do not believe the world has to many people destroying Earth. That arguement has been around since ancient Greece. But I do believe our interglacial is coming either very soon or within the next eight hundred years. When that happens the demographics are going to change
@OxAO I dont know a lot about glaciations and do not have strong opinions about it, but i agree that climate can change on its own. Do not think it has to do with burning fossil fuels. And i do think humans are destroying the earth. Now, in concrete my "earth destroying argument" is limited to the severe deforestation and mass extinctions of species, collapse of fisheries, etc etc. Have no beef with carbon dioxide.
Said, “Do not think it has to do with burning fossil fuels.”
Good. That is a start. There is a lot of things people miss understand about the world and I was very surprised you knew about CO2 that is a first btw.
Example “Fossil Fuels” some of it might have been from Phytoplankton and Zooplankton and other plants but mostly it is something else we don’t fully understand yet. Look at the moon Titian it rains hydrocarbons (how?)
@OxAO Current hotbeds of species extinctions: The jungles of latin america. Its being logged to grow food, and also for the lumber. In Costa Rica frog species are gone because of the loss of habitat in order to grow pinneaples. Delicious pinneaples me think, someone out there is proud of it, the whole feeding the world thing...
@OxAO Also, theres a chance the ancient greeks were right. There were a lot of extinctions at their time, we are just following their line of work. The middle east and north africa used to harbor a lot more biodiversity 2000 years ago than they do now. The romans in particular contributed to local extinctions by capturing all sorts of animals and killing them in theaters.
There is only one species that I know of that was totally eliminated with great help by the Romans that is the Aurochs or cattle at the time. They must not have been good meat even the early Egyptians replaced them
Chickens, cattle and other animals that are no longer in the wild survived because we eat them or in zoos. If we raised Mammoths for food they would most likely be alive as well
I am 180 deg opposite of your position but we both see doom coming
@OxAO The North African Elephant (Loxodonta africana pharaoensis) was a possible subspecies of the African Bush Elephant (Loxodonta africana), or possibly a separate elephant species, that existed in North Africa until becoming extinct in Ancient Roman times. These were the famous war elephants used by Carthage in the Punic Wars, their conflict with the Roman Republic. Also, Italy used to be heavily forested back then. Rome turned it all into charcoal. Must get these baths running...
Much of the Sahara around that time was tropical after the ice sheets melted then the Sahara slowly dried up. The Pyramids were covered in tropical plants at the time of their construction.
Yes they were over hunted but shear economics of finding the last elephants isn't economical. The romans defiantly played a part in their extinction but the drying up of the Sahara is the primary reason they died.
Sahara today is as dry today as it was in the later part of the last glaciation
@OxAO Lots of things happen all the time, but certainly deforestation and hunting go hand in hand with civilization. You cant deny that and its obvious that if 500 million people do a lot of damage, 5000 million can do much more so yes, theres too much people, not enough forests, and its getting worse. I derive no personal benefit from overpopulation, as such, i cannot defend it.
@OxAO Lots of things happen all the time, yet civilization and deforestation go hand in hand. Probably even more in ancient times as these folks used no fossil fuels and just logged for charcoal, very much like a modern haitian. I derive no benefit from overpopulation, economical or psychological, as such, i cannot endorse it.
@OxAO Forests may have grown in some ares as people dont need charcoal anymore but its not true that they are not shrinking worldwide. The rainforests of the amazon are being cut at an alarming rate, to grow soybeans, to feed the world. Thats a fact.
@OxAO Virtually all these ancient cultures from India to Morocco and southern Europe, are wastelands right now, while the barbarian areas are more.. preserved. At one point Europe was one giant forest going from Portugal to San Petersburg, with the associated fauna. Ever heard of the cedars of Lebanon? Ever wonder why lions are so popular in the bible? There were once lions in what is now Israel. For some reason, not now..
@OxAO You want me to believe that somehow biodiversity is increasing as i speak and mass extinctions are a myth? This is just retarded.. BTW, dont take my words so literally, of course there are still SOME cedars in lebanon, of course forests grow in developed countries were theres no need to use charcoal, they reintroduced wolves in many US states were they were locally extinct, but that still doesnt change the big picture. I dont think i'm being controversial here, are you denying extinctions?
present mass extinctions is a myth. With the exception of frogs which the cause of the BD fungus is unknown.
Humans had a mass termination a few times in our history we didn't contribute it to over population even though it was a result soiled living conditions (black plague and small pox.) 75K years ago we almost became extinct with less then 10K left on the planet again not a result of over population of the species.
Mass extinctions are coming though and relatively soon
@OxAO Ok, so mass extinctions are a myth. Ok. Been hearing for a decade how theres only like 2000 tigers in India, while there used to be at least 100.000 a century ago. Also a myth? Dunno, i'm not doing the counting. What do you make of it?
You should use the term Climate change. Your idea isn't that bad, but it won't solve anything. Green roofs isn't the way to go, the concentration of concrete absorbing heat and the skyscraper obstructing the flow of air is what make the temp in the big cities higher. It is a waste of time trying to prevent climate change, we can avoid small things like flooding, but we can't avoid hurricanes, earthquake, excessive heat or cold, however we can adapt or improve the way we are creating societies.
monkeydo30 5 months ago
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monkeydo30 5 months ago
you might as well take the windows off of cars because there would be no way that i would poke my head out , down there isolated with car emissions haha good idea though. Society doesn't care though, they care more about celebrities and material objects more than anything.
mrxtreme352 7 months ago
@mrxtreme352 - "Society doesn't care though, they care more about celebrities and material objects more than anything."
who gives a fuck about them, the future is for real people not assholes.
being uber-real though - lots of celebs at least promote green-sanity anyway, so their fans should know better. also - one reason society is fucked up is lack of reverence for material objects. making anything should be for-life for the most part, and not waste any material, & have a good purpose.
MannySteinerBIeeky 5 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky
Do you grow your own food?
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged = satanic jewmason conspiracy of soul-raping subhuman useless-eater scabs.
scabs get no further info on how to grow crops properly cause scabs were never meant to have been made by the alien scabs that genetically engineered them in the first place, then left them here to rape the planet.
kill yourself subhuman scab.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@TheElasticJesusRez
Are you unwell? JSP888
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - don't insult me scumfuck. you're a subhuman child-molester scab that can't even feel you should kill yourself just based on how stupid your comments are.
you're elasticjesusrez, you call me that as part of your conspiracy to claim you are Tesla in the future & that i'll turn into you, which is total lies cause you're not and i won't, i've been me all along, you can't ever not be who you are.
you are a paedo satanist, kill yourself faggot scab subhuman.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
I fully understand your point JSP and agree with many of your points regards the lizardyalien thingyjobbies but please don't repeat it as the PF will put you down.
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - you understand nothing, scab, especially not about aliens or human origins or what-who-why made the universe/s, and why you are in the bodies you're in etc. nothing at all. you are the procurator fiscal faggot, same masonic-jew-satanist conspiracy that invented false-law that made scum like you.
kill yourself useless-eater scab subhuman.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@EddieSweeney
David Icke loves you.
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - see, again you raped children so you could override the block on you subscribing to my channel.
there's no way you can go against my free-will like you do without murdering innocent life as sacirfices to the part of you in 4th dimension, the astral demi-urge perverted satanic soul-rapist.
icke is a fake like jones is, part of your anti-gaian conspiracy.
kill yourself fake-elohim-creation subhuman satanic jewfaggot scab.
AgentDeadPinata 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - i'm not a lawyer. never have been.
icke is a fake like jones is, part of your anti-gaian conspiracy.
remember scab, you CHOSE to side with evil, i was just there at the same time in the vicinity, as always.
& you're still the procurator fiscal and polis & general false-law scumbags, raping nature and abusing gaians. not a forgivable way for anyone to be.
kill yourself fake-elohim-creation subhuman satanic jewfaggot scab.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial
Hoss how are you?
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - so what logic does your tiny dyslexic jumbled schizo mind think you will achieve, by sending me a message addressed to someone besides me yet again for the millionth time, which itself contains a pointless waster message of no substance (like all your arguements against climate-change being man-made)? you think that can make it seem like you are me?! or that you are jesus?
of course you aren't jesus & you sure aren't me. you're you - the fucktard.
kill yourself.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Take the Green one it will ease the pain.
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - another comment that only makes any sense inside your twisted sick feeble evil brain.
you have just posted my name & address again, so why hasn't my coin been left here like you said you would do?
do you even know what green thing you are talking about there? did it exist ever? where is it, when you wrote that comment where did you see it supposedly existing? what is it for do you think?
kill yourself, mason pervert proddy paedo-clown satanist soul-rapist scab.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Have you lost a coin? what sort of coin jobbie was it? silver or brown?
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - where's my coin scumfuck? you claimed you wanted to return it, then claimed you didn't have my details - then you posted them again, as you had also done again the previous day, and at your sick cloned satanic channel.
so? where is it cunt? and how did you come to have it or know of me to begin with?
kill yourself, satanic masonic child-molester-cult-member soul-rapist animal-abuser scum-projecting sick evil subhuman dyslexic fucktarded lowlife.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Get some rest (s)Pam.
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PrairleDogged - i'm not your fake-jesus anti-christ channel 'chris'.
it is obvious that is you - you say i'm created by you from that channel, in your prairLe-cloned channel there you say you are me, and in your lordfuckwit-hawhaw channel you say i'm your anti-christ channel.
being involved in occult abuse is confusing for you isn't it faggot?
kill yourself masonic-jew-satanist subhuman scab.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Nelsons cafe monday 11.00 am.
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged WHEN FAGGOT? BACK IN TIME TO MANY YEARS AGO WHEN IT EXISTED? AND I DON'T SUPPOSE YOU CAN PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF YOURSELF - THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ME, GIVEN YOU GIVE ME MY OWN TELEPHONE NUMBER AND ASK ME TO TEXT YOU ON IT?
CUNT YOU'RE THE SAME FAG THAT POSTED AS ALIAS AT BILLHICKS FORUM YEARS AGO - YOU DIDN'T SHOW AT THE RON JONHSON 'MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS' READING, BORDERS, THEN LIED CLAIMING YOU DID SHOW AT THE FORUM NEXT DAY.
KILL YOURSELF PEADO FAG SUBHUMAN.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@PrairleDogged - WHY DON'T YOU SHOW UP AT JAMIE OLIVERS NEW RESTAURANT ON MONDAY AT 11AM, AND ASK FOR THE TIME-BENDER TABLE TO TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME TO BORDERS WHEN YOU CLAIMED YOU WERE ABLE TO SHOW UP FOR THAT READING BUT NEVER.
KILL YOURSELF THICKO.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Do the caplocks Herald a new phase of your mental development?
PrairleDogged 2 months ago
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@PrairleDogged = @MPDTara54 = @laurelbush = @RyanMonckton3610 = @ChristopherMonckton5 = @checkyoursauces = @MarkGubbish...
why do you spend your useless-eater life posting fake questions scumfuck?
ARE YOU STILL LYING CLAIMING TREES CAN BE PLANTED SAFELY ON PUBLIC PROPERTY? AND THEN YOU POST FROM YOUR RYAN MONCKTUP CHANNEL THERE HOW YOU CHAINSAW THEM ALL DEAD ANYWAY.
WHY NOT ANSWER THE POSTS YOU ALWAYS REPLY TO FUCKSCUM?
KILL YOURSELF MASONIC SATANIST HOMO PERVERT SCAB.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PrairleDogged - kill yourself infidel paedo-cult satanic scumfuck crowley-bush etc cunt.
NWOareScum 1 month ago
Grown forests are neutral and do not draw CO2 in net amounts once they are established. Trees only capture Co2 while they grow, and in very little amounts anyway compared to the amounts industry releases. Also, most of the Co2 release/capture action happens in the oceans. Also, the surface of all cities is minuscule compared to the cleared land used for farming. Start by turning farms into forests, not cities, and then come back to us. Only real way is for 95% of us to die, including me.
Favel22 10 months ago
Would take a hell of a lot cement, if you use that to encorporarate CO2, to 'filter' the CO2. Bottom line - CO2 production must be reduced!
PacificCircle1 10 months ago
Check out Arcosanti(dot)org... These are not your ideas, they have been around for many decades (sustainable city)... Everything you explained in here can be made possible through Arcology's, if done properly and in some ways related to this video. The major difference would be in the rate of Urban sprawl, which in turn causes other positive changes.
luc59457 1 year ago
I like what you are saying. If you only get a city to plant trees in the buildings, we can make sure that co2 does not get created. How about this; Fuck You. You made a good commission on this project, yet it was paid for by; Who?
People are waking up. Sorry PR
DonNod911 1 year ago
@DonNod911 I was not getting a commission, and if I really were doing PR the picture should much better instead using pens and rulers...
granddra90n 1 year ago
There is one good point from this. This is how we should start colonizing other planets. Underground... we can find the optimum temperatures underground for sustained life.
There are things we could be mining on other planets such as H3 on the moon.
OxAO 1 year ago
@OxAO Yes, living underground is very practical for purposes of living on other planets and i dare to say, on this planet as well. I like all sorts of sci-fi progressive ideas as well, like ringworld and all that crap. Unfortunately a more practical alternative is for 95% of us to die, including me, so the people left can live off hydroelectric power. BTW, me commiting suicide right now doesnt work unless 9 out of 10 do it as well.
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
Why commit suicide when someone can help you?
If there is a reason to eliminate you they will try.
Fortunately for us they need the demographics to climb not drop for a strong economy.
OxAO 10 months ago
@Favel22
BTW - Can I ask you a simple question?
Take earth history for the last 600 million years is the CO2 levels extremely high today or extremely low?
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Extremely low. I do not fear global warming, but i know there are far worse forms of degradation, the worse being massive deforestation and mass extinctions, thats what breaks my heart. 95% of humans do not contribute to civilization and are just useless eaters and killers of the biosphere, consuming consuming without enriching existence. The world will better without them and yes, i'll probably be gone with them.
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
"Extremely low" sweet someone that knows!
You may also know we are still presently in the quaternary ice age with glaciation right around the corner?
My guess when it takes place is during one of the solar minimums equal to the Maunder Minimum which the next one starts in about 15 years. They take place every 400 years or so
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Theres lots of disinformation out there about all sorts of topics, i was a normal guy not too long ago, now i'm considered a nutjob. What do i know, i only have two degrees in physics.
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
Disinformation? are you suggesting we are not in an Ice Age and glaciation isn't coming?
the difference between you and I. I do not believe the world has to many people destroying Earth. That arguement has been around since ancient Greece. But I do believe our interglacial is coming either very soon or within the next eight hundred years. When that happens the demographics are going to change
Either way both of us are nutjob's.
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO I dont know a lot about glaciations and do not have strong opinions about it, but i agree that climate can change on its own. Do not think it has to do with burning fossil fuels. And i do think humans are destroying the earth. Now, in concrete my "earth destroying argument" is limited to the severe deforestation and mass extinctions of species, collapse of fisheries, etc etc. Have no beef with carbon dioxide.
Favel22 10 months ago
@ Favel22
Said, “Do not think it has to do with burning fossil fuels.”
Good. That is a start. There is a lot of things people miss understand about the world and I was very surprised you knew about CO2 that is a first btw.
Example “Fossil Fuels” some of it might have been from Phytoplankton and Zooplankton and other plants but mostly it is something else we don’t fully understand yet. Look at the moon Titian it rains hydrocarbons (how?)
Yes we do things that are not good ...
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Current hotbeds of species extinctions: The jungles of latin america. Its being logged to grow food, and also for the lumber. In Costa Rica frog species are gone because of the loss of habitat in order to grow pinneaples. Delicious pinneaples me think, someone out there is proud of it, the whole feeding the world thing...
Favel22 10 months ago
@OxAO
extinctions are extinctions
Reduction of species is a reduction of species.
We are talking about the same thing here?
Humans had a massive reduction of the species 75K years ago but we are still here.
OxAO 9 months ago
@OxAO Also, theres a chance the ancient greeks were right. There were a lot of extinctions at their time, we are just following their line of work. The middle east and north africa used to harbor a lot more biodiversity 2000 years ago than they do now. The romans in particular contributed to local extinctions by capturing all sorts of animals and killing them in theaters.
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
There is only one species that I know of that was totally eliminated with great help by the Romans that is the Aurochs or cattle at the time. They must not have been good meat even the early Egyptians replaced them
Chickens, cattle and other animals that are no longer in the wild survived because we eat them or in zoos. If we raised Mammoths for food they would most likely be alive as well
I am 180 deg opposite of your position but we both see doom coming
I find that interesting
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO The North African Elephant (Loxodonta africana pharaoensis) was a possible subspecies of the African Bush Elephant (Loxodonta africana), or possibly a separate elephant species, that existed in North Africa until becoming extinct in Ancient Roman times. These were the famous war elephants used by Carthage in the Punic Wars, their conflict with the Roman Republic. Also, Italy used to be heavily forested back then. Rome turned it all into charcoal. Must get these baths running...
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
Much of the Sahara around that time was tropical after the ice sheets melted then the Sahara slowly dried up. The Pyramids were covered in tropical plants at the time of their construction.
Yes they were over hunted but shear economics of finding the last elephants isn't economical. The romans defiantly played a part in their extinction but the drying up of the Sahara is the primary reason they died.
Sahara today is as dry today as it was in the later part of the last glaciation
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Lots of things happen all the time, but certainly deforestation and hunting go hand in hand with civilization. You cant deny that and its obvious that if 500 million people do a lot of damage, 5000 million can do much more so yes, theres too much people, not enough forests, and its getting worse. I derive no personal benefit from overpopulation, as such, i cannot defend it.
Favel22 10 months ago
@OxAO Lots of things happen all the time, yet civilization and deforestation go hand in hand. Probably even more in ancient times as these folks used no fossil fuels and just logged for charcoal, very much like a modern haitian. I derive no benefit from overpopulation, economical or psychological, as such, i cannot endorse it.
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
Something I don't understand about your post. Yes, the Romans destroyed their forest.
but if populations are directly proportional to forest growth then forests should shrink right?
But over all forests have grown in the last 100 years
Rain forests again have shrank mostly due to similar reasons as the Sahara
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Forests may have grown in some ares as people dont need charcoal anymore but its not true that they are not shrinking worldwide. The rainforests of the amazon are being cut at an alarming rate, to grow soybeans, to feed the world. Thats a fact.
Favel22 10 months ago
@OxAO Virtually all these ancient cultures from India to Morocco and southern Europe, are wastelands right now, while the barbarian areas are more.. preserved. At one point Europe was one giant forest going from Portugal to San Petersburg, with the associated fauna. Ever heard of the cedars of Lebanon? Ever wonder why lions are so popular in the bible? There were once lions in what is now Israel. For some reason, not now..
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
Cedar still exist in Lebanon and were making a come back up until recently.
now that Islam has taken over they will not last long. It was the Caliphate that ordered their destruction during WWI.
I have seen satellite photos of before and after shots over decades and it clearly shows forests are growing.
Besides the rainforest's were shrinking long before man started farming for the same reason the Sahara wet lands died out
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO You want me to believe that somehow biodiversity is increasing as i speak and mass extinctions are a myth? This is just retarded.. BTW, dont take my words so literally, of course there are still SOME cedars in lebanon, of course forests grow in developed countries were theres no need to use charcoal, they reintroduced wolves in many US states were they were locally extinct, but that still doesnt change the big picture. I dont think i'm being controversial here, are you denying extinctions?
Favel22 10 months ago
@Favel22
present mass extinctions is a myth. With the exception of frogs which the cause of the BD fungus is unknown.
Humans had a mass termination a few times in our history we didn't contribute it to over population even though it was a result soiled living conditions (black plague and small pox.) 75K years ago we almost became extinct with less then 10K left on the planet again not a result of over population of the species.
Mass extinctions are coming though and relatively soon
OxAO 10 months ago
@OxAO Ok, so mass extinctions are a myth. Ok. Been hearing for a decade how theres only like 2000 tigers in India, while there used to be at least 100.000 a century ago. Also a myth? Dunno, i'm not doing the counting. What do you make of it?
Favel22 9 months ago
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@Favel22
extinctions are extinctions
Reduction of species is a reduction of species.
We are talking about the same thing here?
Humans had a massive reduction of the species 75K years ago but we are still here.
In reality there are more species in existence today then all of world history and it is climbing
Wiki has a graph on it:
en wikipedia org/wiki/Mass_extinction#Patterns_in_frequency
OxAO 9 months ago
problem with this argument is that our oceans is what creates over 90% of our oxygen not the forests.
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@randomlaughingman
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