Bach - Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 in G Major BWV 1048 - 1/2

[tbaptiste26]

Is there anything better? Seriously. So much power. Yet graceful.

[newworldcompany]

I love this song!!! I love it!!! I LOVE IT!!!

[cynmarie33]

Beautiful....Thank You...

[imjeffrey88]

Violas are so under rated=(

[gothicgrowler]

@imjeffrey88 totally agree =(

[pianoweed]

What piece is the harpsichordist playing for the "2nd mvt." Is he making it up?

[TheExarion]

@pianoweed The harpsichord has an improvisational part for the 2nd movement.

[pianoweed]

What are you using for the second movement?

[alda666]

optimal tempo 4 me.. ;)

[ottavva]

THIS IS N O T B ACH, THIS IS HOW (FAST) THE MICE MASTURBATE

[TheExarion]

@ottavva The hell are you talking about? ._.

[gothicgrowler]

@ottavva WTF dude o__O

[lximenezfyvie]

Respectfully, your interpretation is too fast, has no feeling

[TheExarion]

@lximenezfyvie Remember. this is baroque. It's mostly execution, not much room for emotion. I do agree with you that it is a bit fast.

[lximenezfyvie]

@TheExarion Thank you for your reply. I actually think that it is a wonderful recording. I apologize for not having said that also in my initial comment about it being a too fast for my taste. Thank you for sharing it.

[TheExarion]

@lximenezfyvie No problem :P

[Javier141145]

¡¡¡Gloria Dios que les dio ese maravilloso don!!!

[king7wood]

Breathtaking performance and video

[lvxinxin]

for 1048 this speed is nice, if any comments is required, you can say it is a little bit too fast...but for the piece 1050 from this Orchestra,have to say the it is nice... you can compare it with the Abado 2008 version (fast version) and all the other versions on +youtube..

[wcbroccoli]

@lvxinxin Only people who long for the good ole days of the clueless, anachonistic, lethargic, Late Romantic interpretations of Baroque music would think this is fast. Compared to the version by Musica Antiqua Koeln, this is slow!

[dosergiobr]

I would prefer to listen with half of tempo. this is to fast in my opinion.

[slateflash]

Was the original in G flat major?

This is clearly not G major.

[TheExarion]

@slateflash No this is in G Major

[holmesjanetl]

@slateflash  Perhaps the instruments are tuned to a historically correct "A". Not 440

[Thunderbird1371]

@slateflash This is in G major. Only in the Baroque times, the instrumentalists tuned to A415 instead of A440, thus giving the impression this piece is in Gb Major. Quite nice and authentic, I prefer playing in Baroque tuning.

[wcbroccoli]

@Thunderbird1371 Several pitch standards were used in the Baroque. Schuetz performed his church music at ~A462, and so did Bach when he worked in Weimar: the strings tuned to organ pitch (~A465), but winds coming out of France could only play at chamber pitch (~A415) or the lower French chamber pitch (~A409, ~A392) and so they had to have their parts tranposed up. A415 is merely a convenient standard adopted by today's HIP ensembles.

[Thunderbird1371]

@wcbroccoli Dang, I never expected this many replies. Personally I like tuning around 415, because the way my instrument was made (soundpost being in a different location than need be.) Not only do I like the feel of this tuning, but my instrument responds so much better at this pitch.

[wcbroccoli]

@Thunderbird1371 It really depends on the string guage. In my viol consort playing, we normally tune to A415 (even though this is probably much lower than the historical tunings). But I can just as easily tune up to A440. I don't need to adjust my soundpost. The instrument and strings quickly adapt to the higher tension.

[wcbroccoli]

@Thunderbird1371 In the last decade or so, HIP Baroque ensembles have wised up to the fact not all Barqoue music was played at A415. Most early Bach cantatas were played at ~A465, but when he began working in Leipzig, where the custom was to tune to A415, and he wanted to reuse his early cantatas, he had to transpose them up a whole step to keep the parts from going too low. Throughout the 150 years of the Baroque, the choice of pitch was dictated by practical, not aesthetic, concerns.

[witchcraftlord]

@wcbroccoli how do you know early Bach cantatas were played at A465, were did you read this?

[wcbroccoli]

@witchcraftlord This is common knowledge among informed early music players and listeners. On YouTube(I forget where) you can find Ton Koopman commenting how he plans to re-record (at organ pitch) some of the earlier Bach cantatas he'd previously released at chmaber pitch. In "The World of the Bach Cantatas" edited by C. Wolff, Koopman contributed his essay "Aspects of Performance Practice" in which he discusses the pitch issues I've raised.

[wcbroccoli]

@witchcraftlord I might ask where you read that everywhere everyone throughout the 150 years of the Barqoue era always tuned to A415. German Baroque organs tuned to about A465, some even higher, and this tuning originated with Renaissance winds. It was the lower tuning of late 17th -early 18th c. woodwinds coming out of France that eventually led to A415 tuning. In Bach's day there were 3 major pitch standards in use: organ (~A465), chamber(~A415) and French chamber(as low as ~A395).

[witchcraftlord]

@wcbroccoli I did not say anything about " that everywhere everyone throughout the 150 years of the Barqoue era always tuned to A415. " you misquoated me, I didnt say that,  . but in my opinion anything lower than A440 would sound better than piano or harpsichord tunned any higher, it would sound stupid if it was tunned to A465, no matter if they did that back then, IT SOUNDS STUPID, I like when keyboard or guitar is tunned down, lower than A440, its more effective

[wcbroccoli]

@witchcraftlord Ok

[wcbroccoli]

@Thunderbird1371 Today's A440 was lobbied by the American music industry in the 1920s and adopted as an international standard in the 1950s. However, many large philharmonic orchestras tune higher than A440.

There are no pitch police, A440 is not a law of nature, and no one is born with his ears tuned to A440.

[wcbroccoli]

@Thunderbird1371 Only people who are naive enough to believe that A440 tuning existed since the beginning of time would think this piece is being played in Gb.

Because no one is born with his ears tuned to A440, the notion of "absolute pitch" is a complete fiction. But this piece sounds in Gmajor no matter what pitch standard the ensemble tunes to.

Baroque composers transposed music up and down as needed without any 20th c. or 21st c. angst about what key would result.

[Thunderbird1371]

@wcbroccoli I completely agree. I never said it sounded in Gb Major for myself, since I am also a string player, and know that GMajor can be played in A440, A415, and even A465, depending on tuning. I only said people who never heard this style of playing, or this tuning for that matter would believe that it is in a different key. No matter what tuning, however, this is in G, like you and I both said.

[torment7777]

bach's music sooths the crazy mind, thanks js

[wcbroccoli]

The so-called "Brandenburg Concertos" (Bach called them "Six Concertos for Diverse Instruments") are merely the final form of earlier works Bach had written for, or at least played at, Prince Leopold's court in Coethen.

The Markgraf's band was too small to play any of these concertos, so they sat unplayed in his music library and eventually ended up in the Brandenburg library, where they were found in the 19th century.

ThAT is how that came to be called "The Brandenburg Concertos".

[wcbroccoli]

The Markgraf Christian Ludwig von Brandenburg-Schwedt was not in any way related to Bach's master, the Prince Leopold of Anhalt-Coethen.

The Margraf was the actually the uncle of Frederick Wilhelm I, the King in Prussia

and Elector of Brandenburg, who was the father of the future Frederick the Great to whom Bach would eventually dedicate the Musical Offering.

[wcbroccoli]

Corrections: Bach did not work at the court "chapel" in the sense that we understand "chapel". He was employed 1717-1723 as "capellmeister" to the court of Prince Leopold of Anhalt-Coethen, i.e., as the leader of the Prince's band of musicians and as court composer. In 1721 (not 1725), while Bach was still working for his master, Prince Leopold, Bach dedicated what he called "Six Concertos for Diverse Instruments" to the Markgaf von Brandenburg, who was was NOT the son of Bach's master.

[kontrabassman]

I love the bass part!!!

[moneyjr1122]

you shou;d hear them when they are older .. it strange lol

[peres010492]

Very good performance, much authentic and historic, yet fun. About the piece...what to say? It's Bach

[uggycom]

Sehr Gut!! Das war Fantastisch.

Excellent piece of music isn't it. Every note is beautiful. Well Done, I loved it.

[ilovebach123]

Nice!!! well played!