I am hundred percent certain that iskcon funding disproportionately comes from westerners, what is indian rupees compared to usd and euro donations. Grow a brain and stop being narrow minded
Sir aapka problem samajh me nahi aain. Paheli baar ek sanatan dharmi panth videsh me popular ho raha hain aur aapko isse problem hain? Also when a religion is common to populations in one rich country and five poor countries, the flow of wealth through donations etc is from rich to poor..eg saudi arabia to somalia, bangladesh, etc or usa to mexico, haiti etc. Have you seen the amount of seva the iskcon bhakts do in india
This guy is totally wrong about ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada knew that he would needs White Americans to popularize Indian religions, and that has worked. Just as Yoga has been popularized by White Americans, such that now India has rediscovered Yoga.
@puredevotee hay ! not so pure devotee!! who said by the way am hindu and what does it has do with me being hindu or whatever ? i don't give a shit about what does my name look like....i am what i am baby.. and i don't give a damn about what dumbass says about it.
This man had Half knowledge . . . he is those casteist brahmin who would tell you the problem but his solutions are soooo primitive . . . he didnt want to introduce "fertilizer, machinery, I mean really what kind of ideology he was giving" thats the most bizzare rant I heard!!!
Anyone Hating ISKCON are either those greedy, Chor Pandit or Brahmin because of ISKCON their looting of public has stopped and donours have started asking about what kind of charites they are doing!!! ISKCON is a Hindu missionary which is spreading Hinduism, distributing Gita, making white, Black and chinese Hindus, Making India a Holy Place . .. reinventing Mantra and Sanskrit . . . If You still dislike ISKCON please read "Kalma" and accept Islam . . . Hindu haters Go to hell!!!
I have been and still is a Big fan of Rajiv Dixit!!! But This is where he made a Disaster!!! absolute Blunder!!!! I am not sure is half cooked knowledge or its intentional . . . cause in last 2000 years ISKCON is something best coming out from Sanathan Dharma!!! Our "Pandit ji" who were suppose to spread the religion further weakend by introducing caste system . . . The percentage of Hinduism is going down ever since . . . Tons of Gold is put to our temple . . .only to be looted by invaders . .
@SunnyDude Unfortunately, mr. dixit is no more. so the person who has put these up,, should consider and withdraw these. please also flag it and complain about defamation to legal centre. regards
Srila Prabhupada the founder acaraya of ISKCON in his 70s he travelled to America on a cargo ship suffering from heart attacks and finally he reached there and preached the message of Krishna and so ISKCON was formed.He traveled all over the globe and established 108 temples n now more than 600 temples.Each ISKCON temple financially maintains itself individually following the govt norms.On social front ISKCON has a big list.So Mr Dixit's statement are baseless and incorrect.
@SunnyDude Thanks for supplementing. It is true that each ISKCON is meant to be separate entity. Most importantly general accusations were foreign funds come in. now here he was accusing of sending fund out. both were wrong.
@TheRipper108 Oh! i am sorry to note sri. dixit is no more. yet the propaganda was populistic and not based on facts. ISKCON Bangalore is incorporated by indian. No american money has come in to fund it. No amount has been remitted out of india by ISKCON Bangalore to america, as claimed. ISKCON Bangalore has been built with local funds collected from bangaloreans. I just wanted truth to come out and defamatory statements tackled in right manner. it is for ashwinisoni, who uploaded video to act
he is talking without any basic document verification. The financials of ISKCON bangalore could be obtained under direct application from authorities like registrar of societies. No such money transfer out of country has happened as he claims. Empty talk. I had been auditor of ISKCON Bangalore society. I can't vouch for other ISKCONs. regafds
@Dgr8Nation, indeed it is a big scam!!! Millions are made on sincere devotee money. Today Iskcon is working overtime to pay a child molestation case all over the world that costs it MILLIONS of DOLLARS!! So much for spiritualism!! lol
@Dgr8Nation Can you please Give any Hindu Misisonary more efficent who could protect the Dharma who could spread it into different continents?? if you dont have answer please keep quiet and let these people do some Hindu misisonary work . . . if their are more people like you thn Sanathan Dharma will become History!!!
@TheRipper108, did I say Iskcon is not doing enough financially for India? What can Iskcon do for India?? NOTHING, except extract lavish funds running into billions to make properties and send back to America!! Truth.
Prabhupad came to west on order of his Guru n spitted venom against Hindus and ALL sainst who didn't belong to his Gaudiya clan just to trumpet his own newly formed brand of New-Krishnaism! Krishna worship is nothing new in India. No Iskcon monopoly.
@TheRipper108, so its all about places and temple buildings. Prabhupad talked loads about "consciousness", but couldn't give that to you. Sadly, you imagine Krishna to be in Mayapur or Vrindavan. Krsna is in the heart too. So when you get on your Hindu bashing bandwagon crusade, Krsna also observes that with a smile. n apparently takes off your earned points from your next visit to a holy dham. U think u made a big deal.
@TheRipper108, Indeed you go to see the "holy" places, yet your heart is filled with malice. Apparently you ain't evolving spiritually, but just your judgmental mind is growing older and bitching better. Whatever lil good karma you earn my going to a holy place, you soon loose it and earn more bad one by bitching n abusing! That is One step ahead 3 steps back. Real Smart I should say.. eh?!
@TheRipper108, Hey listen jackass, Who is telling whom??? Your generations have passed enjoying free sex, alcohol, beef n what not. Now u got hold of a couple of books, that too, cuz of an INDIAN who was Prabhupad. n now you are on a crusade to bash all Indians?? How sick is that!!!!!
@TheRipper108, Prabhupad was the new crow who came to west n ate with his heart's content in the west. Made billions. His so called "Gurus" fell with rapes, molestations, murders, Drugs you name it they have it!!! Pure devotee my ass. How come so many impure offsprings from a pure devotee??
Today Iskcon is paying millions of dollars of sincere hard earned devotee money for its own child molestation cases across the world! Does that say something?? Need I add more? Stick your dislike for Indians.
@TheRipper108, What Prabhupad said ain't got no importance except for a bunch of jumping jacks!! Prabhupad was judgemental and prenotioned, narrow minded guy. Not just that, he was hypocrital too. While he bitched about Indians copying west, he himself went to west n got all that money from it. Without the west's money, Prabhupad wouldn't have done shit!! Today Iskcon in America is in shit!! Nobody comes. You trick local Indians into calling it "Hindu" programs to get funds!
@TheRipper108, jacki the Ripper, YOU r brainwashed. And the no.1 thing is that the brainwashed don't know they are. Since u r an American n lack general knowledge, n that ur's n Prabhupad's knowledge about Hinduism only stretches as far as the history books mistranslated and misinterpreted as per the initial material churned out by the British Empire in India, I couldn't have expected more from you!! lol.. Since you personaly dislike India n Hindus n Hinduism, why don't you buzz off off it??
@TheRipper108, its good that u r trying to follow some Vaishnava culture. But cult following sampradaya following if narrow minded, doesn't give freedom in spiritual life. One has to have a broader perspective. Not just be a parrot repeating what others said. Own realization is important. But since you have already been programmed, it may already be of not much use talking all that. Just chant and be happy. Don't bash Hindus. That's where it all emanates.
@TheRipper108, u guys r so brainwashed dead!! Not only of Prabhupad propaganda, but of the American propaganda too!! U talk about poverty in India. America is still trying hard to recover from economic meltdown. What about the housing market? Employment? Most of my American friends r cursing it all. Some have left America for good. People r not happy with Obama. People r not happy with the cops having so much control. Education system, too expensive. Family life ruined. People cheat each other.
@TheRipper108, your saying "every child in India is a street beggar". This is abusive of you. Why do you come to India then? U parrot Prabhupad, but lack humility and consider all Indian children as beggars! What a shame!! If u go to begging areas, u will be nagged by beggars. Doesn't mean every Indian child is a beggar. What a moron!! Its like saying every American woman is a prostitute and slut!! Is it true?
@TheRipper108, That's why I said, get some knowledge. India gives more money to America. Unbelievable? Yes. But true. Do you know how much money all the American companies make in India??? Do u have any idea when your American Citibank went bankrupt, they never returned a single penny of Indian people!! And there were billinos and trillions!! Do u know the most expensive house in the world is in Mumbai? Dude, American general knowledge is a laugh fro rest of the world!
@TheRipper108, When u say Hindus worship anything, u defy the Vedas. Truth is that You market yourselves as "Vedic" without reading or accepting the Vedas in full. Hypocrisy and DOuble standards on every step from philosophical concocted doctrines to organizational policies. Hindus are Blah blah bad.. but hey we are so so happy taking their $ :P I can rip you apart like Nrsimha ripped Hiranyakashipu on every point that you may bring up. But I'm so tired of brainwashed parrots. No realization!
@TheRipper108, LOL!!! I'm envious of Krishna?? n u r just a parrot of the brainwashing propaganda Mr. Jack the Ripper!!! What could I be jealous of Chaitanya Nimai?? I've studied his horoscope. Needless mention more.
I'm tired of the BS parroting propaganda. Hindu is NOT a word given by any muslims. This word predates islam. U should really get knowledge instead of parroting Prabhupad n his bandwagon! Prabhupad also parroted a false historical notion of Hindu given by muslims.
@TheRipper108, Ripper, You are from U.S. and teaching what Hindus don't understand about Krishna!? Funny!! I can see how you are promoting Krishna on your site page - "skulls, daggers and blood" - very nice. I'm not interested in your cult bashing agenda. Please.
Whatever you just said is very biased and usual Gaud/IskCON brainwash. Prabhupad refused to send his son to England?! Prabhupad begged a ship ticket from Hindu lady to go to U.S.! Not interested. Sorry. Biased.
In the present Century no one would believe in his Philosophy although it would sound good to hear, these Indegineous thoughts are completely impracticle. Though Mr. Rajeev is no more now but I would like to know why did he go to France to do his PHD in France. We are living in the Global Village...Whatever be the effect of this globalisation but the fact is that the impact is unavoidable ....so let us not bound by the boundarries of Countries and People.
@DaveyRadha, you said: "Run to your nearest Iskcon center and bow down before the Deities there and beg Lord Krishna to intervene" I'm fine with bowing down to deities. But why there is any need to run to the "ISKCON" temple???? Explain!! Is Krishna a monopoly of Iskcon only?? Krishna is worshipped in Indian Hindu culture for ages, much much before the 400 years old Gaudiya sub-sampradaya was even born! So in other words, bowing down to Krishna deities is good. But not in Isckon alone! :)
@DaveyRadha, right, so Prabhupad had the rule that half money from book distribution went into temple making that also included the initial temples in India. But that's not the only money that went into. But you forgot to mention where does all the massive funds and charities received by the temples go???? This is what the video is all about!!
@DonnaCaylee do u know what rajivji did...n abt his work...dun get sentimental abt iskon....these guys do export indian money to U.S....n earn 3times more thn colgate does...all in name of god.....very disgusting .........i propose demolition of such orgs....congress has made it possible fr org;s like iskon 2 flurish...they willl soon die thr own death.....n rightly shud..............I HATE ISKON..........N THEY WILL GO DWN
@DonnaCaylee he is big stupid no doubt.. I have read something about ISKCON and I believe it is the greatest organisation in the world.. Had I been able to leave non-veg and other vices; I would have certainly joined formally ISKCON .. But I believe in ISKCON.. also he was not abusive to ISKCON I can assure you.. He was just saying if MNCs start entering temples just as they have entered our lives; what would happen.. he shudnt have given ISKCON example..
@DonnaCaylee he is big stupid no doubt.. I have read something about ISKCON and I believe it is the greatest organisation in the world.. Had I been able to leave non-veg and other vices; I would have certainly joined formally ISKCON .. But I believe in ISKCON.. also he was not abusive to ISKCON I can assure you.. He was just saying if MNCs start entering temples just as they have entered our lives; what would happen.. he shudnt have given ISKCON example..
he is totally stupid.. anyone can shout and blab in India since its democratic.. But he is totally stupid.. I was watching one of his clips and he claimed that Indian Muslims never kill cows.. abe kitna bakwas karta hai.. ham tumhare jaise chalu logo ko achhi tarah jante hain.. ab bataiye ye kahte hain ki 80% tax politicians ke jeb me jaate hain.. kya india me development hawa me ho rha hai.. hame abhi dharam prachar ki jarurat hai & these stupid guys ask about others integrity when they ve non
A dog eats meat, he doesnt say that he is God, does he? A spade is to be called a spade! By calling a person untrue doess not mean being not "Pandita samadarshitah" . Goddess Kali is not the Supreme God. A person is not good or bad, his actions are. Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa did not spread Kaali consciousness as much as Srila Prabhupad spread Krishna Consciousness, or did he? As I said earlier good and bad people will be everywhere. What's the point of so much hate?
Also, Srila Prabhupad vehemently opposed any Swami who suggested to others that they were Godhead incarnations. These so called self proclaimed incarnations of God were actually cheating their followers. A real guru should clearly tell his followers who is God and what is our relation with Him. Rather than making themselves Gods.
@TheSoulEternal, A Guru never claims he's God. RamaKrishna Paramahansa never claimed that either. But sometimes, the mood of Impersonal Bhakti is different and the personality or the Ego of the sadhak Bhakta merges with his focus of devotion - his ishta dev his beloved and he doesn't see himself apart from him and all he sees is God, within, outward everywhere. And then he may recognize himself as Him only. Doesn't mean he as a soul is God. This mood Prabhupad was unable to understand.
@TheSoulEternal, of course Prabhupad was good at "vehemently opposing many". And of course there are some fraud Gurus and charlatans. But it doesn't mean that you make a rule of thumb about it that Hindu Gurus are such. This rule can also be made of Iskcon Gurus where there was no dearth of scandals, and money laundering. Iskcon is still suffering from international pedophile molestation lawsuit paying millions of honest devotee money to arrogant Kulis.
@Chhenu Where is the bad in Srimad Bhagavad Gita or Srimad Bhagvatam? You are the first person I met in my life who says that Srimad Bhagavad Gita is not authentic. Whatever sadhana you are doing has not helped you curb your hatred! Have you ever tried the chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra? I am sure not. You have just delved into philosophies and debates and hatred. You say that Gaudiya philosophy is fasle again and again. Gaudiya Vaishnava dont hate you, but you hate them! Why?
@TheSoulEternal, There is a mistake in your understand on what I wrote. Please read carefully. I never claimed bad in Srimad Bhagwatam. Did I? There is nothing bad in SB and there is nothing bad in ShivPuran. Period.
You already claiming my sadhna hasn't help me curb hate? I have no hate. I'm just countering the arrogance of Hare Krishnas. That is all. I know many nice Hare Krishnas who are away from the politics of own sects. I love them. Pure Krishna Bhakti is great! Not politics.
@TheSoulEternal, read the story of a great Shiva Bhakta called "Kanappa". Read, its worth shedding a tear. Kanappa was a hunter who ate meat and loved Lord Shiva so much, but didn't know anything about what is right to offer. When he finds a Shivalaya in a forest, he goes and offers the best meat he finds on the Shivalinga. The Brahamans come next day n sanctify it cursing him. Next day again meat on Shivalinga. Brahmans curse again, again wash.. contd....
Sri Ramakrishna Parmahansa and Swami Vivekananda were consuming meat and that was one of the reasons why Srila Prabhupad not like them. As you know, a devotee should partake only Krishna prasad and that is vegetarian, devoid of even onion and garlic.
@TheSoulEternal, Prabhupad saw them consuming meat? The whole of Bengal eats fish.
So where did Prabhupad's intelligence disappear when he said so?? "Pandita samadarshitah" - a pandit - knower of scriptures sees all as equal and sees the same soul in all - be it a dog, chandal, brahmin etc. Dog also eats meat. Where did the "mercy" and humbleness disappeared in him then? Who is he to decide? Shri RamaKrishna Paramhansa was a saint and siddha Guru!
@TheSoulEternal, know the man by his heart, not by his outward things. Be the spiritual soul. Looks like all Prabhupad was concerned was about his food. Not his soul or heart. This is shallow. Sorry, but it is.
RamaKrishna was no regular meat eater either. But that's what Prabhupad and Gaudiyas saw. Nothing more. They didn't see his love for Kaali. Were they blinded by meat? Why did their hearts close?
@Chhenu Meat eating is meat eating, doesnt matter regular or irregular. Meat eaters have no mercy for other living beings. Did Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa not have Pandita Samadarsinah, that you are accusing Srila Prabhupad of not having!
@TheSoulEternal, Ramakrishna was a siddha. Period. Meat eaters too have mercy. Ramakrishna gave mercy of bhakti and siddhi to so many Vivekananda was one of them. So look beyond. Read story of Kanappa, the great saint, bhakta of Lord Shiva who used to be a meat eater too and even offered meat to the Lord. So ask Prabhupada to look beyond.
@Chhenu Srila Prabhupad is a bhakta unlike a siddha. Kanappa did not know what to offer. Did Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa also not know what to offer? Meat eaters have mercy? Then where does their mercy disappear when having animlas killed to gratify their taste? Is their mercy similar to those of Christians and Muslims? Swami Vivekananda used to smoke and eat fish. Is it ok by a Swami to do this? What kind of example are such Swamis? Srila Prabhupad did nothing wrong.
@TheSoulEternal, if you knew Shri RamaKrishna Paramahansa, you wouldn't say so dear. What Prabhupad did wrong was set a bad example and have whole coming generations of thousands of Krishnaites without realization parroting his words condemning others. He started a chain reaction, which is bad.
@Chhenu Shri Kanappa was a great devotee of Lord Shiva! I am not disputing it. I am saying that you said that since he did not know what to offer, he offered what he thought was the best. The Lord certainly accepted as it was the bhava that mattered! But Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa and Swami Vivekananda were not hunters like Shri Kanappa!
@TheSoulEternal, Exactly! It's the bhava that matters. Btw, a name of Lord Shiva is Bhava. Another name of Shiva is Krishna. So Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa and Swami Vivekananda weren't hunters. But did Prabhupad say anything about the fact when Ramakrishna was in a trance commenting on the Vedas elaborately? Was he concerned when he gave shaktipaat to Vivekananda bestowing him siddhi and darshan of Kaali? All Prabhupad saw was meat?! Nothing else? Didn't see their hearts? Mind?!
@TheSoulEternal, heart of a person, Bhava is more important. That is what God sees. Know this. For he's seated in your heart. Krishna says in B.G about Maheswara Shiva:
"Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer who is MAHESHWARA, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as Paramatma,the Supreme soul of universe".
Firstly, a sadhaka will never judge anyone, let alone a judge a Spiritual Master of Srila Prabhupad's stature. He said what he found right. If you consider youurself to be of his stature, then you may comment on his actions. I am not being autocratic here. What I mean is that we have no way to know why great saints say and do things they do.
@TheSoulEternal, One should know why he said so and did what he did dear. Don't live in darkness. Know what is what. What Prabhupad considered right, he said. What I consider right I say. Prabhupad was judgemental. He judged everyone around. But hailed his own Bengali clan. Why wasn't he hailing Mira bai?? She was a very exalted Krishna Bhakta. Did he ever write anything about her? Why not? Cuz she wasn't Gaudiya and Bengali. That's how close the system is.
@Chhenu This is wrong. The bhakti yoga process is of the soul and not of the body. If he were so narrow minded as you claim again and again he would never have preached westerners. He would only preach Bengalis. By the way Swami Vivekanand and Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa were bengalis. Since he was preaching to the westerners first, he did not go very deep in Bhakti knowledge as it would have been not understood by them. The bhakti of Meerabai mataji is difficult to understand by neophytes.
@TheSoulEternal, So if Bhakti yog is of soul, where did meat come in? Concentrate on the Bhava - soul to soul. Discard looking at other's meat. see their bhakti. This is the message dear. If Prabhupad only preached to Bengalis, nobody would know him. He would've worked in a shop as usual and preached to localites. All the money, fame came from the west. Meerabai needs to be understood. Gaudiyas Neophytes? Why they never talk Mirabai? Mere Neophyte is not the reason. Mirabai, Kabirdas,.. so many!
@Chhenu Humans have intelligence. Doing Bhakti yoga without intelligence and knowledge provided is of no use! You accuse Srila Prabhupad of wanting money and fame. You seem to have a conspiratorial view towards Srila prabhupad. All I can say to help you is to learn more about Srila Prabhupad. If you really knew his works you wouldnt have hated him so much. You seem to have only accessed his audio/video recordings. You have not read his books.
@TheSoulEternal, false claims dear. Let's see what u r blaming me of: " You accuse Srila Prabhupad of wanting money and fame." Go back n read. Did I say Prabhupad wanted money and fame??? Try to read carefully. I'm also an editor. I understand difference in writing. What I did say is that If he was preaching to Bengalis alone, nobody would've known him. All the money n fame came from the west. I'm not implying he wanted it only. But no west, no Iskcon possible. Resources needed.
@Chhenu Srila Prabhupad went to the west on the orders of His Guru, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Maharaja. His motive was to preach Krishna Consciousness. Money comes automatically. His godbrothers were also given the same instruction but were unable to go to the west. Whatever he did was for Guru and Krishna! Not for his own fame or money.
@TheSoulEternal, I've read his books dear. Don't be mistaken. Contrary to your perception, I know it all too well, to know the problem areas. Only an expert can do that. Without knowing I wouldn't go around making silly claims. Problem is narrow mindedness. You are nice, but getting brainwashed "Prabhuji". Soon your faculties would close down on others. Before this happens see through the BS. Sincere advise. Follow Iskcon. Follow Krishna prema, bhakti. But not the other part in Gaudiya.
Also, Srila Prabhupad had to teach what his Gurus taught him, Meerabai mataji was not his guru, so he did not preach her teachings. His Gurus were of the bengal region (gaudiyas). He preached to be free from bodily designations like religion, nationality, race, gender etc. And you accuse him of promoting BENGALI clan! Shame on you! Although you claim to know ISKCON for 22 years (I know for 5 years), you have not realised even these!
@TheSoulEternal, this is true. Stop shaming others dear. Sure Mirabai wasn't his Guru. But where is it written that don't discuss other bhaktas of Krishna, but only Gaudiyas? you see the logic? See through it dear Soul. Speaking on Bhakti I have no inhibition speaking of great Bhaktas, be them of any clan, sampradaya, sect, religion etc. THIS my dear is openness. Do Gaudiyas do that? What's the shame in this observance? U shaming me cuz I see this n u don't? Kabir Das wasn't Bhakta? Tulasidas?
@TheSoulEternal, I hope u get time to see through internal policies and hypocrisy, before u get totally brainwashed. Sorry doesn't sound nice. I don't mean to sound disrespectful in anyway. But See through things. Sit through a regular Iskcon lecture and see how many times Vedic rishis are mentioned!!! Rishis like Shri Vishwamitra, Shri Vashishtha, Kanaad, Atri, Shri Upamanyu (Krishna took initiation from) and so on.. Except a chosen couple of Kapila muni's chosen something, Vyasa, Valmiki etc.
@Chhenu I am only interested in my sadhana and following what His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad says through His teachings. What do I have to do with policies, hypocrisy etc. I am no one to judge anyone, including judging you. I am going by my sadhana and consequent instincts. What I would say to you is to do the same thing. There is no point accusing people here and there or debating who is the Supreme. For wrongdoers there is Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva to take care!
@TheSoulEternal, "There is no point accusing people and there or debating who is the Supreme. For wrongdoers there is Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva to take care!" - Very well said dear Soul. :) So I hope you will stay away from the "god positioning agenda" my God superior than yours thing of Iskcon. (U'll recognize it in preachings), and mindless debates to convince others. All this comprises of HareKrsna philosophy. Main sadhna is "preaching" to others in it, besides chanting mantra.
@TheSoulEternal, I'll go fir my evening puja now. Wish you happiness n success in your sadhna n pure bhakti of Lord Shri Krishna! Best wishes dear Soul. :)
@TheSoulEternal, Hare Krsna to you too dear Prabhu. And please know that I have many dear friends in Iskcon with whom we have enjoyed hours of sankirtana at times. I love the sincere devotees who are all about love and bhakti. Not the other things. Again, best wishes to you dear Soul. My regards, Prabhuji. Hari Bol. Namah Shivaya! :)
A Vaishanva always speaks the truth as per the vedic scriptures! If people are hurt by it, then it is their problem! You know Srila Prabhupad much better than me! It is not shallow to say a meat eater a meat eater. Where is the mercy for other living beings, who are also part and parcel of the Supreme God, when you have them killed for your food? That when you have many alternatives. I can understand people who do not have access to fruits, vegetables and grains eating meet. But a Swami?
@TheSoulEternal, Its strange all Prabhupada saw in Shri RamaKrishna Paramahansa was meat.. This shows how highly prejudiced was he. There was no other single good quality that he could even see??? And he called himself as "Vaishnava"? What happened to the SOUL to the HEART?
@TheSoulEternal, As I said before, I don't support meat eating and do not eat meat, fish, eggs, garlic myself. But that is not all there is to a person. A person must not be rejected and put down, only based on this. This is un spiritual and materialistic or narrow minded and judgemental.
@TheSoulEternal, Goddess Kaali won't appear before ordinary people. When disciples, just shouted the name Kaali, Ramakrishna would start crying like a child for mother Kaali and fall on the ground or dance with tears having no conscious of his own body. Thus exalted was his bhakti. Prabhupad didn't see this. All he saw was meat taken at a time? He couldn't see the goodness in that saint that millions worship to this day and called him "Fool n rascal"?? Shame!!!
@mikekarry112 With due respect , I din't speak about ur religion, ok. ISKCON is an organisation & not a religion. They don't even know "V" of Vaishnavism & call themselves largest vaishnava organisation. If ur a true Vaishnavite, then u don't need any tag called ISKCON or Bharat Seva Ashram. Well I'am not surprised with the violence u displayed cuz I know that ISKCON IS A VIOLENT ORGANISATION. U talk ill about India & claim to be a Hindu! I donno how much I will honor u as a Vaishnava.
@dswaroop1001 just for ur information FOUNDER OF ISKCON IS INDIA AND HE CREATE IT TO SPREAD HINDUISM OUT SIDE INDIA ISKCON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICAN GOVT SO STF UP AND IF U REALLY WANT TO SAVE UR COUNTRY THEN GO FIGHT WITH MUSLIM U STUPID RETARD
@mikekarry112 By the way, I have my brain in my head & not in my knees. Founder of ISKCON was of Indian origin , but it started in U.S. He started a noble mission, but after his demise, his illict disciples adulterated his teachings & presented the fraud versions. How do I know? Cuz I was a Sanskrit student. I studied the original Sanskrit version of Gita on which Prabhupada's teachings were based. I hope u realise the truth very soon By The Grace of Lord Krishna. Take care. JAI HIND, JAI DURGA.
Firstly,ISKCON Bangalore does not send any money to anyone.
Their Program, the Akshay Patra feeds 1 million children everyday across the country. At 5 Rupees a child, they require 5 million rupees a day to operate the program. That is more than 125 mill a month. All the collected funds goes into feeding hungry children and further expansion.
Let us stop Akshay Patra and give this Bastard Rajiv Dixit the job. Let him beg door to door collecting 125 mill. All these low lifes know is to Blabber.
The soul can only "grow" if it guided properly and in the right direction. Your Rajiv Bhai is a good orator nonetheless he fails to understand the Krishna Consciousness Movement and the seriousness of the devotees. You cannot achieve superior consciousness by attending an IIT like your Rajiv Bhai. It only comes with a lifetime of Devotion to the supreme personality of godhead as described in the vedas. Attend an Iskcon sunday service to find out what actually happens there.
All the devotees who think that Rajiv Dixit is telling lie.. Check and give answer to your conciousness, don't be slaves of any thoughts or book or person or organization... The soul must grow inside.... Google for 'Dark side of ISKCON' check first link... (rickross site)
ISKCON was started not by an American, but by a strong Vaishnava.The movement flourished during his presence.But soon after his departure,others started fighting literally for leadership. Since then there have been many instances of great devotees falling down which you are highlighting as "Dark side of ISKCON". It is foolish to think that once you are a devotee,you are free of material desires.Even the greatest of Devotees sometimes fall down.
@arseanal34 Correct. It was started by a strong Vaishnava, who unfortunately was assasinated by his own disciple who adulterated Prabhupada's teachings to earn profit. JAI HIND, JAI DURGA.
British rules before 1947 were very transperant.. an they called it 'Its Burden of Whiteman' to civilize others.. Now Indian Forest Act, Indian Police Act, Land Aqusition Act.. many such are very very transperent.. But only fools will concord with them... who knows the pains of others, understands agony of poor will fight against them.. When poor are beening raped, killed outside, Krishna will not expect you to praise him in temple...
thosands of rajiv dixt like you cannot stop the mission of srila prabhupada who has a special mercy of Krishna. You are not even comparable to a neophype devotee of krishna. If indians like you had supported prabhupada's mission, american devotees would not have to come to preach your religion to you. These american are far better than you, at least they are chanting the holy name of the lord and not finding faults. I am also of indian origin and fell pity for you.
May be this ISKON, is not quiet exposed right now we might tend to think that this is conspiracy.. but what about all the other looting things raised by Rajiv Dixit.. If found all facts not just listened to him..
We will be forever grateful to the Lord if we can become slaves to Krishna. instead of reading/hearing your mundane talks devoid of any spiritualism, I very much prefer to read Srila Prabhupada's (ISKCON) books. A soul which is devoid of Krishna Consciousness is useless. Wherever there is good, there are also bad things, just take the example of the Samundara manthan, there was also poison and nectar involved. We shud b intelligent enough to choose the nectar i/o poison.
You deosn't even know what spirituality is.. Rajiv knows great deal of... Hare Krishna krishna singing songs blah blah is not spirituality.... One who mugs-up Geetha is not a Krishna's devotee.. He is true devotee who even without knowing Geetha but lives a Karma Yogi's life. Krishna never expects you to donate to temple or break a coconut or praise him that is really stupidity... Krishna expects you to life a life of Karma Yogi...
Also, Iskcon mints money on Hindus, but is sort of anti-Hindu. They discredit Hindus or Hinduism on the whole. Many of their philosophies are really very narrow minded and weird. They claim to be "vedic" but are not. They just developed in the last couple of hundred years. Iskcon was formed in 1966 in New York.
@jaimaharishidayanand, sure there were all of these within Iskcon. But I wouldn't label one and all in that category. Yes it is a cult. And they ok with Hindu political, social and monetary support, but never support Hindu thought and philosophy, but on the contrary would at times criticize Hinduism as some thing not authentic but their own Gaudiya Sampradaya as authentic. They concoct own scriptures and explanations and don't accept originals. Sad.
@Chhenu Hare Krishna! I happen to be an admirer of Shriman Rajiv Dixit ji as well as His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad who was merciful and kind enough to go to the west at the age of 69 years and preach them Krishna Consciousness. In a short period of 12 years, due to his preaching and his inspired disciples more than 100 temples of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna, was established in many countries apart from 4 in India (during his time).
@TheSoulEternal, dear Soul, yes I'm aware of Prabhupad ji's teachings and life story.
All that Prabhupad ji did was certainly very commendable and wonderful. Only problem is that when he was in the west marketing his new formed organization, he was out there criticizing Hindus and the whole of Hinduism. Not just that he was abusive towards highly respected Indian saints. That was unfortunate on his part and not appreciable. His taught generations learnt to condemn Hindus parroting his words.
@Chhenu Dear, HDG Bhaktivedanta Swami was not abusive. He says that a real guru should give devotional service of God to his disciples, Krishna Prema, love of God. Anything other than that is cheating (not cheating as in looting money) because the disciple will waste his life if not given this love of God. This comes by practising Bhakti Yoga. All the teachings of the Brahma Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya is based on Srimad Bhagvad Maha Purana, Srimad Bhagavad Gita and Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita.
@Chhenu The Vedas have explored all possibilities on all methods of knowing God. That is why we have Dwaita, Advaita, Vishistha Advaita, Shuddha Advaita branches of philosophy. Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya is of Brahma Sampradaya, one of the four authentic ones viz Kumar, Sri, Rudra & Brahma. You are saying this because of your lack of knowledge of the Vedas. With ISKCON, each temple has to manage their own finances and will not share donations collected with other ISKCON temples.
@TheSoulEternal, yeah there comes out Iskcon mind. Attack one who doesn't accept you. My lack of knowledge of the Vedas. And only Iskcon and you are knower of the Vedas. Iskcon is stuck up in the Sampradaya business. Not Vedic. Iskcon does not read the Vedas. But advertise themselves as Vedic. If you want to start a debate here, be prepared with your facts. and please no attacks. Iskcon and the whole of Gaudiya Sampradaya practices hypocrisy and double standards on every step. True n provable.
@Chhenu I do not claim to have a complete knowledge of the Vedas nor I have been taught what I know by only ISKCON. I read Swami Chinmayanand Missions handbook on introduction to Sanatana Dharma. I am not attacking you. Sampradaya means an ubroken chain of Spiritual Master and disciple and the fact that there will be no change in the teaching when the disciple becomes a Guru and teaches to his disciples. Absence of sampradaya means false gurus like Osho who concoct things of their own!
@TheSoulEternal, This is incomplete definition of Sampradaya. SAM+PRADATT - to give equally, see equally. The word starts with an open mind, but narrow mindedness soon creeps in. GURU PARAMPARA is important. Strict adherence to one narrow sampradaya is not so important. Ex: Your sadhna can include Shakta and Shaiva sadhna methods. Formally 2 diffnt sampradayas. Yet an illuminated Guru can consider them both, understanding the essence. not remaining stuck up in one. This is Vedic.
@TheSoulEternal, Brahma Sampradaya? The proper name is Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya. Not Brahma Sampradaya. A proper "sampradaya" has a founder. First hypocrisy, double standard is that - it was not started by a. Lord Brahma, b. Madhavacharya. It was started by Nimai / Vishvambhar Mishra aka Chaitanya Krishna (Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who took only Brahmachari diksha under Shankaracharya sampradaya. If your knowledge of Vedas come from Iskcon, then it certainly is incomplete and very biased.
@Chhenu It is originally Lord Brahma who taught this knowledge to Lord Narada who in turn taught to Shri Veda Vyasa and further down the line you have Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Shri Madhavacharya. Any guru in this lineage did not pass on the knowledge to just one disciple, therefore there are many organisations in Brahma Sampradaya. ISKCON comes under Brahma (Lord Brahma) Madhava ( Madhavacharya as one guru in the lineage)Gaudiya (area of Bengal) vaishnava sampradaya.
@TheSoulEternal, No. This is not so dear. Brahma taught lot of things to Narada. What knowledge are you talking about?? Bhakti is there in every sampradaya. This is a forced claim. What is the direct line from Ved Vyasa to Chaitanya??? NONE!! This is a false claim to gain, authority. Nothing else. Don't read the Vedas, but then don't claim Vedic too. Don't cheat others when you reject Vedic knowledge. Show me where Vedas claim chanting of Krishna's name can only be good in Kaliyuga??
@tdatar Hare Krishna! "ISKON ke Upanishad"? "Sab gol gol hain"? Aap hi bata di jiye na ke seedha kya hain? Shayad aap ek mahaan gyaani hain aur hamare jeevan ko safal banane ke liye comment kar rahe hain!
@TheSoulEternal, Iskcon books and teachings are very biased. Sorry dear. Be more open. VEDIC means vast ocean of knowledge. NOT stuck up mentality of one small sub sampradaya.
@Chhenu Not so. In kaliyuga, the recommended process, in the Vedas, to attain love of Godhead, is through the process of chanting of the holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna. This is what is followed and taught by all Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya and parampara, ISKCON is not the only one among all of them. Being focused on this process is not equal to being narrow minded. Sure, the Vedas is a vast ocean of knowledge, but will all human beings be able to read all.
@Chhenu The Vedas have philosophies that appeal to all kinds of people. The philosophy that I like may not be liked by some other. This is the beauty of the Vedas. But the end result is the same. Maybe in this lifetime or in any of the following lifetimes the sadhaka (spiritual practitioner) will attain the love of Godhead, as the spiritual knowledge gained in a lifetime is accumulated over many lifetimes unlike material knowledge which becomes zero with a new birth!
@TheSoulEternal, true about love of God. What is God"HEAD"?? Typical Isckon concocted terminology like "karmi", etc. God is God. Also show me how many times Vedas talking about Krishna?
@TheSoulEternal, Yes. And so is Shiva God"HEAD" Lord Shiva is the father of the entire Cosmic manifestation and beyond it. And that's why Krishna worshipped him in every incarnation and asked Arjuna to worship him too. He worshipped him as Rama, as Vamana, as Vishnu. Narada also did. Gopis did. Kunti did. Its Vedic culture. Prabhupad along with Gaudiyas can't digest it. So Prabhupad and Gaudiyas retranslated and re purported the parts of scriptures with a very biased angle.
@Chhenu There are 18 main puranas, 6 in rajas, 6 in tamas and 6 in sattva. Shiva Purana says Lord Shiva is Supreme, Srimad Bhagavatam says Lord Krishna is supreme. The sadhaka's personality helps him choose which personality of Godhead he likes more. To quote Goswami Tulsidas "Depending on the kind of feelings one nurtures
Lord Rama’s statue appears to him in that form". There has been no concoction. Srimad Bhagavat is translated the same in Swami Chinmayanand Mission. Its choice matter.
@TheSoulEternal, Yes and that's where your problem lies. That is why Gaudiyas are hypocrites and double standard liars. Simply because shri SHIV MAHAPURANA hails Lord Shiva, it becomes "Tamasic". This is plain foolishness n nothing else. God Shiva is not a God of Tamas of mode of ignorance. How can the supreme Lord who is beyond ALL 3 gunas of material nature and their controller be in tamo guna or be god of tamoguna?? In fact only he can give mercy to even ghosts. Who is ghost? Why so despise?
@Chhenu Nobody is despising Lord Shiva. This categorization of all the puranas into sattva, rajas and tamas has not been done by ISKCON or Gaudiya Vaishanvas. Swami Chinmayanand's Mission also states it. If you would like to follow Shiva Purana, no one can object to it. What you should not try to do is to come to the conclusion that only Shiva Purana is autthentic. That would be counter productive to your sadhana.
@TheSoulEternal, yes so what is counter productive to your sadhna would be to consider that only BG is authentic. Shiva Maha Purana is not "tamasic and its foolish to claim so. Period. It glorifies Lord Shiva. That's it. How can it be "tamasic"??? Lord Shiva is not Tamasic! Nor is he in charge of Tamoguna alone. he's wielder of all 3 Gunas and the entire cosmic manifestation, yet un effected by it all and above it all.
@TheSoulEternal, Please read and understand your Srimad Bhagwatam and the words of Lord Brahma - foremost person of your sampradaya - : Shri Brahma -
" O siva , I know that You are the Supreme controller(Parameswara), You are both the father and the mother of the entire cosmic manifestation and as the one ever auspicious and supreme brahman who is beyond cosmic manifestation" (SB 4:6:42 )
@Chhenu As per Srimad Bhagavatam, Lord Shiva is the foremost Vaishnava "vaishanavanam yatha shambhu". Sadhakas who worship Lord Shiva as the Supreme Godhead will not agree with this. But it is not a problem. A sadhaka should focus on sadhana as you said and should choose a guru he is attracted to. There is no bias as such in Gaudiya sampradaya. It is just that they are following Srimad Bhagavat Mahapurana which the devotees of Lord Shiva are not. It appears to them as a bias, fraud etc.
@TheSoulEternal, that is why there is double standards and hypocrisy in Iskcon and Gaudiyas. You quote n chose what is close to your thinking, rest reject from the source. Selective choice. Not complete truth. Srimad Bhagvatam also exalts Lord Shiva as the supreme n father of the entire Cosmic Manifestation. Infact the foremost personality of Gaudiya sampradaya (supposedly), claims this n hence cannot be wrong! That in SB. that all of Gaudiyas accept with one voice, despite their jealousies.
@Chhenu A mind is like a parachute, it works only when it is open! There is no place for hatred or abuse in spiritual practice. In fact, spiritual practice should cause anger, fear, hatred, lust, greed and envy go away, to do the least. Spiritual Masters may comment on masters of other philosophies, but their disciples should never do it. Shri Rajiv Dixit has his facts in order all the time. He may be wrong about ISKCON. Anybody can make a mistake. He did not place any facts on his allegations.
@TheSoulEternal, I agree. Mind should be open. But sampradayas and sects don't keep open mind. Rajiv Dixit ji was right on Iskcon. He is not stating exact account bills etc of Iskcon. But looking by the size of the temples and mutts, there is a huge money earning. Why do we need so much?? This huge expenditure? Food for Life program is good. Feed the poor and hungry. Not bricks n walls. But Hindu bashing?? Hindu saint bashing?? Low.
@Chhenu There is no Hindu bashing by ISKCON, which is one of the Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya. ISKCON is a preaching mission preaching the teachings of Srimad Bhagvad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam and Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita. Feeding the poor may offer temporary relief but permanent relief comes through eternal knowledge. With this knowledge, no matter whether one is poor or rich, black or white, man or woman, they will be happy forever. This knowledge is of devotional service to Shri Krishna.
@TheSoulEternal, it is not so simple and black & white dear. There is plenty of Hindu bashing in Iskcon as well as Gaudiya Mutth. They consider most Hindu Gurus as "frauds" etc.. All sampradayas and worshipers of other forms of God as lower.
@Chhenu 'Fraud' as in not following the process of Bhakti yoga as this is the only process they believe that can help a person to be free from birth, disease, old age and death! A vaishanva is dasanudas, servant of the servant of the servant of the Lord. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu on his meeting with a Mayavadi Sanyasa Guru (who was offered a proper seating) in Benares, sat on the floor, near a place where utensils were washed, showing his humility. He was opposed to Mayavad teachings.
@TheSoulEternal, If someone is not following the "process of Bhakti" as in gaudiya - he must not be labeled as "fraud" This is very arrogant and narrow minded. There are different processes. Just because they are not following your type of bhakti or closer to your process, doesn't mean they are "frauds".
Also, Yogis are not materialists as claimed by Prabupada.
@Chhenu No ISKCON guru calls any Guru of other sampradaya as fraud. It is a very broad term. Listening to Impersonalism philosophy is to be avoided, as told by Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The followers do the same. All Yogis are not materialists but siddhis are. Siddhis are those who want to obtain the ashta siddhi by performing penances. The goal is important. I may do yoga for bhakti, some other may do it to get material power. Ravana, Hiranyakashipu and Bhasmasur are examples.
@TheSoulEternal, That's fine. But thereis nothing wrong with impersonalism. It is harder to grasp. That's it. Doesn't mean its "fraud". A general mood in Iskcon/Gaudiyas is "oh that is Hindu.. blah .." 'Prabhupad put down Hinduism on the whole. Sad. He put down exalted Hindu saints, but mostly only glorified his own Bengali swamis within sampradaya. Scope is narrow.
Iskcon is bringing western money into india not the other way round......
kundarvankumar 4 days ago
he is talking total crap........
Iskcon temples are more opulent in India not in west.....
moreover iskcon is doing tremendous job in popularizing indian culture and religion in west....
We should not accuse them like morons...
kundarvankumar 4 days ago
I am hundred percent certain that iskcon funding disproportionately comes from westerners, what is indian rupees compared to usd and euro donations. Grow a brain and stop being narrow minded
baadindyan 2 weeks ago
Sir aapka problem samajh me nahi aain. Paheli baar ek sanatan dharmi panth videsh me popular ho raha hain aur aapko isse problem hain? Also when a religion is common to populations in one rich country and five poor countries, the flow of wealth through donations etc is from rich to poor..eg saudi arabia to somalia, bangladesh, etc or usa to mexico, haiti etc. Have you seen the amount of seva the iskcon bhakts do in india
baadindyan 2 weeks ago
This guy is totally wrong about ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada knew that he would needs White Americans to popularize Indian religions, and that has worked. Just as Yoga has been popularized by White Americans, such that now India has rediscovered Yoga.
smodass 1 month ago
mahaa moorkh praani
AdaptiveRajat 1 month ago
ha ha ha, never saw bullcrap stacked this high and still standing!!!
rajurkar2K 2 months ago
He is Khalikhopri
108dip 3 months ago
@puredevotee hay ! not so pure devotee!! who said by the way am hindu and what does it has do with me being hindu or whatever ? i don't give a shit about what does my name look like....i am what i am baby.. and i don't give a damn about what dumbass says about it.
sanndee2591 3 months ago
@puredevotee do u even know what kali yuga personified means ? does it even makes sense ?
sanndee2591 3 months ago
very true Rajiv Dixit ji !!
narinderahlawat 5 months ago
hare krishna hare krishna
Krishna Krishna hare hare..
I wish the essence of Krishna Consciousness was understood in its totality.
shaswatkumar 5 months ago
This man had Half knowledge . . . he is those casteist brahmin who would tell you the problem but his solutions are soooo primitive . . . he didnt want to introduce "fertilizer, machinery, I mean really what kind of ideology he was giving" thats the most bizzare rant I heard!!!
mauryansamrat 5 months ago
@mauryansamrat YOU HAVE TO GO FAR...
AparichitKills 5 months ago
Anyone Hating ISKCON are either those greedy, Chor Pandit or Brahmin because of ISKCON their looting of public has stopped and donours have started asking about what kind of charites they are doing!!! ISKCON is a Hindu missionary which is spreading Hinduism, distributing Gita, making white, Black and chinese Hindus, Making India a Holy Place . .. reinventing Mantra and Sanskrit . . . If You still dislike ISKCON please read "Kalma" and accept Islam . . . Hindu haters Go to hell!!!
mauryansamrat 5 months ago
@mauryansamrat u must be an agent of escon
sanndee2591 3 months ago
I have been and still is a Big fan of Rajiv Dixit!!! But This is where he made a Disaster!!! absolute Blunder!!!! I am not sure is half cooked knowledge or its intentional . . . cause in last 2000 years ISKCON is something best coming out from Sanathan Dharma!!! Our "Pandit ji" who were suppose to spread the religion further weakend by introducing caste system . . . The percentage of Hinduism is going down ever since . . . Tons of Gold is put to our temple . . .only to be looted by invaders . .
mauryansamrat 5 months ago
Mr Dixit needs some homework to be done before he speaks something.Leaders are suppose to guide and not misguide the general mass
SunnyDude 5 months ago
@SunnyDude Unfortunately, mr. dixit is no more. so the person who has put these up,, should consider and withdraw these. please also flag it and complain about defamation to legal centre. regards
vlvrajan 5 months ago
Srila Prabhupada the founder acaraya of ISKCON in his 70s he travelled to America on a cargo ship suffering from heart attacks and finally he reached there and preached the message of Krishna and so ISKCON was formed.He traveled all over the globe and established 108 temples n now more than 600 temples.Each ISKCON temple financially maintains itself individually following the govt norms.On social front ISKCON has a big list.So Mr Dixit's statement are baseless and incorrect.
SunnyDude 5 months ago
@SunnyDude Thanks for supplementing. It is true that each ISKCON is meant to be separate entity. Most importantly general accusations were foreign funds come in. now here he was accusing of sending fund out. both were wrong.
vlvrajan 5 months ago
@TheRipper108 Oh! i am sorry to note sri. dixit is no more. yet the propaganda was populistic and not based on facts. ISKCON Bangalore is incorporated by indian. No american money has come in to fund it. No amount has been remitted out of india by ISKCON Bangalore to america, as claimed. ISKCON Bangalore has been built with local funds collected from bangaloreans. I just wanted truth to come out and defamatory statements tackled in right manner. it is for ashwinisoni, who uploaded video to act
vlvrajan 5 months ago
@vlvrajan "ISKCON Bangalore has been built with local funds collected from bangaloreans." that is what Rajiv Dixit said.
somu01dubey 5 months ago
he is talking without any basic document verification. The financials of ISKCON bangalore could be obtained under direct application from authorities like registrar of societies. No such money transfer out of country has happened as he claims. Empty talk. I had been auditor of ISKCON Bangalore society. I can't vouch for other ISKCONs. regafds
vlvrajan 5 months ago
@TheRipper108 ISCON is a big scam.
Dgr8Nation 5 months ago
@Dgr8Nation, indeed it is a big scam!!! Millions are made on sincere devotee money. Today Iskcon is working overtime to pay a child molestation case all over the world that costs it MILLIONS of DOLLARS!! So much for spiritualism!! lol
lafachampion 5 months ago
@Dgr8Nation Can you please Give any Hindu Misisonary more efficent who could protect the Dharma who could spread it into different continents?? if you dont have answer please keep quiet and let these people do some Hindu misisonary work . . . if their are more people like you thn Sanathan Dharma will become History!!!
mauryansamrat 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, did I say Iskcon is not doing enough financially for India? What can Iskcon do for India?? NOTHING, except extract lavish funds running into billions to make properties and send back to America!! Truth.
Prabhupad came to west on order of his Guru n spitted venom against Hindus and ALL sainst who didn't belong to his Gaudiya clan just to trumpet his own newly formed brand of New-Krishnaism! Krishna worship is nothing new in India. No Iskcon monopoly.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, so its all about places and temple buildings. Prabhupad talked loads about "consciousness", but couldn't give that to you. Sadly, you imagine Krishna to be in Mayapur or Vrindavan. Krsna is in the heart too. So when you get on your Hindu bashing bandwagon crusade, Krsna also observes that with a smile. n apparently takes off your earned points from your next visit to a holy dham. U think u made a big deal.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, Indeed you go to see the "holy" places, yet your heart is filled with malice. Apparently you ain't evolving spiritually, but just your judgmental mind is growing older and bitching better. Whatever lil good karma you earn my going to a holy place, you soon loose it and earn more bad one by bitching n abusing! That is One step ahead 3 steps back. Real Smart I should say.. eh?!
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, Hey listen jackass, Who is telling whom??? Your generations have passed enjoying free sex, alcohol, beef n what not. Now u got hold of a couple of books, that too, cuz of an INDIAN who was Prabhupad. n now you are on a crusade to bash all Indians?? How sick is that!!!!!
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, Prabhupad was the new crow who came to west n ate with his heart's content in the west. Made billions. His so called "Gurus" fell with rapes, molestations, murders, Drugs you name it they have it!!! Pure devotee my ass. How come so many impure offsprings from a pure devotee??
Today Iskcon is paying millions of dollars of sincere hard earned devotee money for its own child molestation cases across the world! Does that say something?? Need I add more? Stick your dislike for Indians.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, What Prabhupad said ain't got no importance except for a bunch of jumping jacks!! Prabhupad was judgemental and prenotioned, narrow minded guy. Not just that, he was hypocrital too. While he bitched about Indians copying west, he himself went to west n got all that money from it. Without the west's money, Prabhupad wouldn't have done shit!! Today Iskcon in America is in shit!! Nobody comes. You trick local Indians into calling it "Hindu" programs to get funds!
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, jacki the Ripper, YOU r brainwashed. And the no.1 thing is that the brainwashed don't know they are. Since u r an American n lack general knowledge, n that ur's n Prabhupad's knowledge about Hinduism only stretches as far as the history books mistranslated and misinterpreted as per the initial material churned out by the British Empire in India, I couldn't have expected more from you!! lol.. Since you personaly dislike India n Hindus n Hinduism, why don't you buzz off off it??
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, its good that u r trying to follow some Vaishnava culture. But cult following sampradaya following if narrow minded, doesn't give freedom in spiritual life. One has to have a broader perspective. Not just be a parrot repeating what others said. Own realization is important. But since you have already been programmed, it may already be of not much use talking all that. Just chant and be happy. Don't bash Hindus. That's where it all emanates.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, u guys r so brainwashed dead!! Not only of Prabhupad propaganda, but of the American propaganda too!! U talk about poverty in India. America is still trying hard to recover from economic meltdown. What about the housing market? Employment? Most of my American friends r cursing it all. Some have left America for good. People r not happy with Obama. People r not happy with the cops having so much control. Education system, too expensive. Family life ruined. People cheat each other.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, your saying "every child in India is a street beggar". This is abusive of you. Why do you come to India then? U parrot Prabhupad, but lack humility and consider all Indian children as beggars! What a shame!! If u go to begging areas, u will be nagged by beggars. Doesn't mean every Indian child is a beggar. What a moron!! Its like saying every American woman is a prostitute and slut!! Is it true?
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, That's why I said, get some knowledge. India gives more money to America. Unbelievable? Yes. But true. Do you know how much money all the American companies make in India??? Do u have any idea when your American Citibank went bankrupt, they never returned a single penny of Indian people!! And there were billinos and trillions!! Do u know the most expensive house in the world is in Mumbai? Dude, American general knowledge is a laugh fro rest of the world!
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, When u say Hindus worship anything, u defy the Vedas. Truth is that You market yourselves as "Vedic" without reading or accepting the Vedas in full. Hypocrisy and DOuble standards on every step from philosophical concocted doctrines to organizational policies. Hindus are Blah blah bad.. but hey we are so so happy taking their $ :P I can rip you apart like Nrsimha ripped Hiranyakashipu on every point that you may bring up. But I'm so tired of brainwashed parrots. No realization!
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, LOL!!! I'm envious of Krishna?? n u r just a parrot of the brainwashing propaganda Mr. Jack the Ripper!!! What could I be jealous of Chaitanya Nimai?? I've studied his horoscope. Needless mention more.
I'm tired of the BS parroting propaganda. Hindu is NOT a word given by any muslims. This word predates islam. U should really get knowledge instead of parroting Prabhupad n his bandwagon! Prabhupad also parroted a false historical notion of Hindu given by muslims.
Chhenu 5 months ago
@TheRipper108, Ripper, You are from U.S. and teaching what Hindus don't understand about Krishna!? Funny!! I can see how you are promoting Krishna on your site page - "skulls, daggers and blood" - very nice. I'm not interested in your cult bashing agenda. Please.
Whatever you just said is very biased and usual Gaud/IskCON brainwash. Prabhupad refused to send his son to England?! Prabhupad begged a ship ticket from Hindu lady to go to U.S.! Not interested. Sorry. Biased.
Chhenu 5 months ago
In the present Century no one would believe in his Philosophy although it would sound good to hear, these Indegineous thoughts are completely impracticle. Though Mr. Rajeev is no more now but I would like to know why did he go to France to do his PHD in France. We are living in the Global Village...Whatever be the effect of this globalisation but the fact is that the impact is unavoidable ....so let us not bound by the boundarries of Countries and People.
devika123ify 5 months ago
@DaveyRadha, you said: "Run to your nearest Iskcon center and bow down before the Deities there and beg Lord Krishna to intervene" I'm fine with bowing down to deities. But why there is any need to run to the "ISKCON" temple???? Explain!! Is Krishna a monopoly of Iskcon only?? Krishna is worshipped in Indian Hindu culture for ages, much much before the 400 years old Gaudiya sub-sampradaya was even born! So in other words, bowing down to Krishna deities is good. But not in Isckon alone! :)
Chhenu 5 months ago
@DaveyRadha, right, so Prabhupad had the rule that half money from book distribution went into temple making that also included the initial temples in India. But that's not the only money that went into. But you forgot to mention where does all the massive funds and charities received by the temples go???? This is what the video is all about!!
Chhenu 5 months ago
He expressed his nationalist view
tenelbeg 5 months ago
Guy is just envious))))Because he doesn't have such power)))
tenelbeg 5 months ago
@tenelbeg, which guy is envious??
Chhenu 5 months ago
tabhi main sochu ki america karze main doob rha hai......
rupeshsaxena20 5 months ago
Rajivji Bharat ko aaj aapki sabse zyada zaroorat hai...desh mar raha hai
advait777 5 months ago
@advait777 , sorry but Rajeev is no more now. I died a few months back.
wiweq 5 months ago
gagda-googa!!
teledan105 5 months ago
@DonnaCaylee do u know what rajivji did...n abt his work...dun get sentimental abt iskon....these guys do export indian money to U.S....n earn 3times more thn colgate does...all in name of god.....very disgusting .........i propose demolition of such orgs....congress has made it possible fr org;s like iskon 2 flurish...they willl soon die thr own death.....n rightly shud..............I HATE ISKON..........N THEY WILL GO DWN
abhijit231180 6 months ago
@abhijit231180 rather you go down because you are just enviousand blind
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@DonnaCaylee he is big stupid no doubt.. I have read something about ISKCON and I believe it is the greatest organisation in the world.. Had I been able to leave non-veg and other vices; I would have certainly joined formally ISKCON .. But I believe in ISKCON.. also he was not abusive to ISKCON I can assure you.. He was just saying if MNCs start entering temples just as they have entered our lives; what would happen.. he shudnt have given ISKCON example..
bekarfilmy 6 months ago
@DonnaCaylee he is big stupid no doubt.. I have read something about ISKCON and I believe it is the greatest organisation in the world.. Had I been able to leave non-veg and other vices; I would have certainly joined formally ISKCON .. But I believe in ISKCON.. also he was not abusive to ISKCON I can assure you.. He was just saying if MNCs start entering temples just as they have entered our lives; what would happen.. he shudnt have given ISKCON example..
bekarfilmy 6 months ago
he is totally stupid.. anyone can shout and blab in India since its democratic.. But he is totally stupid.. I was watching one of his clips and he claimed that Indian Muslims never kill cows.. abe kitna bakwas karta hai.. ham tumhare jaise chalu logo ko achhi tarah jante hain.. ab bataiye ye kahte hain ki 80% tax politicians ke jeb me jaate hain.. kya india me development hawa me ho rha hai.. hame abhi dharam prachar ki jarurat hai & these stupid guys ask about others integrity when they ve non
bekarfilmy 6 months ago
@DonnaCaylee
you should watch other videos before abusing
frost7720 6 months ago
A dog eats meat, he doesnt say that he is God, does he? A spade is to be called a spade! By calling a person untrue doess not mean being not "Pandita samadarshitah" . Goddess Kali is not the Supreme God. A person is not good or bad, his actions are. Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa did not spread Kaali consciousness as much as Srila Prabhupad spread Krishna Consciousness, or did he? As I said earlier good and bad people will be everywhere. What's the point of so much hate?
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
Also, Srila Prabhupad vehemently opposed any Swami who suggested to others that they were Godhead incarnations. These so called self proclaimed incarnations of God were actually cheating their followers. A real guru should clearly tell his followers who is God and what is our relation with Him. Rather than making themselves Gods.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, A Guru never claims he's God. RamaKrishna Paramahansa never claimed that either. But sometimes, the mood of Impersonal Bhakti is different and the personality or the Ego of the sadhak Bhakta merges with his focus of devotion - his ishta dev his beloved and he doesn't see himself apart from him and all he sees is God, within, outward everywhere. And then he may recognize himself as Him only. Doesn't mean he as a soul is God. This mood Prabhupad was unable to understand.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, of course Prabhupad was good at "vehemently opposing many". And of course there are some fraud Gurus and charlatans. But it doesn't mean that you make a rule of thumb about it that Hindu Gurus are such. This rule can also be made of Iskcon Gurus where there was no dearth of scandals, and money laundering. Iskcon is still suffering from international pedophile molestation lawsuit paying millions of honest devotee money to arrogant Kulis.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Where is the bad in Srimad Bhagavad Gita or Srimad Bhagvatam? You are the first person I met in my life who says that Srimad Bhagavad Gita is not authentic. Whatever sadhana you are doing has not helped you curb your hatred! Have you ever tried the chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra? I am sure not. You have just delved into philosophies and debates and hatred. You say that Gaudiya philosophy is fasle again and again. Gaudiya Vaishnava dont hate you, but you hate them! Why?
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, There is a mistake in your understand on what I wrote. Please read carefully. I never claimed bad in Srimad Bhagwatam. Did I? There is nothing bad in SB and there is nothing bad in ShivPuran. Period.
You already claiming my sadhna hasn't help me curb hate? I have no hate. I'm just countering the arrogance of Hare Krishnas. That is all. I know many nice Hare Krishnas who are away from the politics of own sects. I love them. Pure Krishna Bhakti is great! Not politics.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, read the story of a great Shiva Bhakta called "Kanappa". Read, its worth shedding a tear. Kanappa was a hunter who ate meat and loved Lord Shiva so much, but didn't know anything about what is right to offer. When he finds a Shivalaya in a forest, he goes and offers the best meat he finds on the Shivalinga. The Brahamans come next day n sanctify it cursing him. Next day again meat on Shivalinga. Brahmans curse again, again wash.. contd....
Chhenu 6 months ago
Sri Ramakrishna Parmahansa and Swami Vivekananda were consuming meat and that was one of the reasons why Srila Prabhupad not like them. As you know, a devotee should partake only Krishna prasad and that is vegetarian, devoid of even onion and garlic.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Prabhupad saw them consuming meat? The whole of Bengal eats fish.
So where did Prabhupad's intelligence disappear when he said so?? "Pandita samadarshitah" - a pandit - knower of scriptures sees all as equal and sees the same soul in all - be it a dog, chandal, brahmin etc. Dog also eats meat. Where did the "mercy" and humbleness disappeared in him then? Who is he to decide? Shri RamaKrishna Paramhansa was a saint and siddha Guru!
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu I dont say that he saw them eating meat. They did not hide their eating meet. It was known by all!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, know the man by his heart, not by his outward things. Be the spiritual soul. Looks like all Prabhupad was concerned was about his food. Not his soul or heart. This is shallow. Sorry, but it is.
RamaKrishna was no regular meat eater either. But that's what Prabhupad and Gaudiyas saw. Nothing more. They didn't see his love for Kaali. Were they blinded by meat? Why did their hearts close?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Meat eating is meat eating, doesnt matter regular or irregular. Meat eaters have no mercy for other living beings. Did Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa not have Pandita Samadarsinah, that you are accusing Srila Prabhupad of not having!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Ramakrishna was a siddha. Period. Meat eaters too have mercy. Ramakrishna gave mercy of bhakti and siddhi to so many Vivekananda was one of them. So look beyond. Read story of Kanappa, the great saint, bhakta of Lord Shiva who used to be a meat eater too and even offered meat to the Lord. So ask Prabhupada to look beyond.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Srila Prabhupad is a bhakta unlike a siddha. Kanappa did not know what to offer. Did Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa also not know what to offer? Meat eaters have mercy? Then where does their mercy disappear when having animlas killed to gratify their taste? Is their mercy similar to those of Christians and Muslims? Swami Vivekananda used to smoke and eat fish. Is it ok by a Swami to do this? What kind of example are such Swamis? Srila Prabhupad did nothing wrong.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, if you knew Shri RamaKrishna Paramahansa, you wouldn't say so dear. What Prabhupad did wrong was set a bad example and have whole coming generations of thousands of Krishnaites without realization parroting his words condemning others. He started a chain reaction, which is bad.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, and yet you too had nothing else to say about Shri Kanappa except touch the meat part. Did his bhakti touch you? not even his?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Shri Kanappa was a great devotee of Lord Shiva! I am not disputing it. I am saying that you said that since he did not know what to offer, he offered what he thought was the best. The Lord certainly accepted as it was the bhava that mattered! But Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa and Swami Vivekananda were not hunters like Shri Kanappa!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Exactly! It's the bhava that matters. Btw, a name of Lord Shiva is Bhava. Another name of Shiva is Krishna. So Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa and Swami Vivekananda weren't hunters. But did Prabhupad say anything about the fact when Ramakrishna was in a trance commenting on the Vedas elaborately? Was he concerned when he gave shaktipaat to Vivekananda bestowing him siddhi and darshan of Kaali? All Prabhupad saw was meat?! Nothing else? Didn't see their hearts? Mind?!
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, heart of a person, Bhava is more important. That is what God sees. Know this. For he's seated in your heart. Krishna says in B.G about Maheswara Shiva:
upadrastanumanta ca
bharta bhokta mahesvarah
paramatmeti capy ukto
dehe 'smin purusah parah (Bhagavad Gita 13:23)
"Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer who is MAHESHWARA, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as Paramatma,the Supreme soul of universe".
Chhenu 6 months ago
Firstly, a sadhaka will never judge anyone, let alone a judge a Spiritual Master of Srila Prabhupad's stature. He said what he found right. If you consider youurself to be of his stature, then you may comment on his actions. I am not being autocratic here. What I mean is that we have no way to know why great saints say and do things they do.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, One should know why he said so and did what he did dear. Don't live in darkness. Know what is what. What Prabhupad considered right, he said. What I consider right I say. Prabhupad was judgemental. He judged everyone around. But hailed his own Bengali clan. Why wasn't he hailing Mira bai?? She was a very exalted Krishna Bhakta. Did he ever write anything about her? Why not? Cuz she wasn't Gaudiya and Bengali. That's how close the system is.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu This is wrong. The bhakti yoga process is of the soul and not of the body. If he were so narrow minded as you claim again and again he would never have preached westerners. He would only preach Bengalis. By the way Swami Vivekanand and Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa were bengalis. Since he was preaching to the westerners first, he did not go very deep in Bhakti knowledge as it would have been not understood by them. The bhakti of Meerabai mataji is difficult to understand by neophytes.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, So if Bhakti yog is of soul, where did meat come in? Concentrate on the Bhava - soul to soul. Discard looking at other's meat. see their bhakti. This is the message dear. If Prabhupad only preached to Bengalis, nobody would know him. He would've worked in a shop as usual and preached to localites. All the money, fame came from the west. Meerabai needs to be understood. Gaudiyas Neophytes? Why they never talk Mirabai? Mere Neophyte is not the reason. Mirabai, Kabirdas,.. so many!
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Humans have intelligence. Doing Bhakti yoga without intelligence and knowledge provided is of no use! You accuse Srila Prabhupad of wanting money and fame. You seem to have a conspiratorial view towards Srila prabhupad. All I can say to help you is to learn more about Srila Prabhupad. If you really knew his works you wouldnt have hated him so much. You seem to have only accessed his audio/video recordings. You have not read his books.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, false claims dear. Let's see what u r blaming me of: " You accuse Srila Prabhupad of wanting money and fame." Go back n read. Did I say Prabhupad wanted money and fame??? Try to read carefully. I'm also an editor. I understand difference in writing. What I did say is that If he was preaching to Bengalis alone, nobody would've known him. All the money n fame came from the west. I'm not implying he wanted it only. But no west, no Iskcon possible. Resources needed.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Srila Prabhupad went to the west on the orders of His Guru, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Maharaja. His motive was to preach Krishna Consciousness. Money comes automatically. His godbrothers were also given the same instruction but were unable to go to the west. Whatever he did was for Guru and Krishna! Not for his own fame or money.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, I've read his books dear. Don't be mistaken. Contrary to your perception, I know it all too well, to know the problem areas. Only an expert can do that. Without knowing I wouldn't go around making silly claims. Problem is narrow mindedness. You are nice, but getting brainwashed "Prabhuji". Soon your faculties would close down on others. Before this happens see through the BS. Sincere advise. Follow Iskcon. Follow Krishna prema, bhakti. But not the other part in Gaudiya.
Chhenu 6 months ago
Also, Srila Prabhupad had to teach what his Gurus taught him, Meerabai mataji was not his guru, so he did not preach her teachings. His Gurus were of the bengal region (gaudiyas). He preached to be free from bodily designations like religion, nationality, race, gender etc. And you accuse him of promoting BENGALI clan! Shame on you! Although you claim to know ISKCON for 22 years (I know for 5 years), you have not realised even these!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, this is true. Stop shaming others dear. Sure Mirabai wasn't his Guru. But where is it written that don't discuss other bhaktas of Krishna, but only Gaudiyas? you see the logic? See through it dear Soul. Speaking on Bhakti I have no inhibition speaking of great Bhaktas, be them of any clan, sampradaya, sect, religion etc. THIS my dear is openness. Do Gaudiyas do that? What's the shame in this observance? U shaming me cuz I see this n u don't? Kabir Das wasn't Bhakta? Tulasidas?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, I hope u get time to see through internal policies and hypocrisy, before u get totally brainwashed. Sorry doesn't sound nice. I don't mean to sound disrespectful in anyway. But See through things. Sit through a regular Iskcon lecture and see how many times Vedic rishis are mentioned!!! Rishis like Shri Vishwamitra, Shri Vashishtha, Kanaad, Atri, Shri Upamanyu (Krishna took initiation from) and so on.. Except a chosen couple of Kapila muni's chosen something, Vyasa, Valmiki etc.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu I am only interested in my sadhana and following what His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad says through His teachings. What do I have to do with policies, hypocrisy etc. I am no one to judge anyone, including judging you. I am going by my sadhana and consequent instincts. What I would say to you is to do the same thing. There is no point accusing people here and there or debating who is the Supreme. For wrongdoers there is Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva to take care!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, "There is no point accusing people and there or debating who is the Supreme. For wrongdoers there is Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva to take care!" - Very well said dear Soul. :) So I hope you will stay away from the "god positioning agenda" my God superior than yours thing of Iskcon. (U'll recognize it in preachings), and mindless debates to convince others. All this comprises of HareKrsna philosophy. Main sadhna is "preaching" to others in it, besides chanting mantra.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, I'll go fir my evening puja now. Wish you happiness n success in your sadhna n pure bhakti of Lord Shri Krishna! Best wishes dear Soul. :)
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Thank you, Prabhu Ji! Hare Krishna!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Hare Krsna to you too dear Prabhu. And please know that I have many dear friends in Iskcon with whom we have enjoyed hours of sankirtana at times. I love the sincere devotees who are all about love and bhakti. Not the other things. Again, best wishes to you dear Soul. My regards, Prabhuji. Hari Bol. Namah Shivaya! :)
Chhenu 6 months ago
A Vaishanva always speaks the truth as per the vedic scriptures! If people are hurt by it, then it is their problem! You know Srila Prabhupad much better than me! It is not shallow to say a meat eater a meat eater. Where is the mercy for other living beings, who are also part and parcel of the Supreme God, when you have them killed for your food? That when you have many alternatives. I can understand people who do not have access to fruits, vegetables and grains eating meet. But a Swami?
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Its strange all Prabhupada saw in Shri RamaKrishna Paramahansa was meat.. This shows how highly prejudiced was he. There was no other single good quality that he could even see??? And he called himself as "Vaishnava"? What happened to the SOUL to the HEART?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, As I said before, I don't support meat eating and do not eat meat, fish, eggs, garlic myself. But that is not all there is to a person. A person must not be rejected and put down, only based on this. This is un spiritual and materialistic or narrow minded and judgemental.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Goddess Kaali won't appear before ordinary people. When disciples, just shouted the name Kaali, Ramakrishna would start crying like a child for mother Kaali and fall on the ground or dance with tears having no conscious of his own body. Thus exalted was his bhakti. Prabhupad didn't see this. All he saw was meat taken at a time? He couldn't see the goodness in that saint that millions worship to this day and called him "Fool n rascal"?? Shame!!!
Chhenu 6 months ago
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jkarry163 7 months ago
@Vivekanandainsp Well done! Well said. ISKCON KI BOLTI BANDH! BAHUT ACHHI BAAT HAIN. KHUB BHALO LAGLO JYENE.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
@dteagroup91 Respected sir/madam, it is u who need Lord Krishna's help, not him. Truth is always bitter. JAI HIND, JAI DURGA.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
indians just open their mouth but they had no idea WTF they are talking
cfei12 7 months ago
rajiv dick shit motherfucking son of bitch
cfei12 7 months ago
@cfei12 Bitter, but truth my friend. Take care.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
@dswaroop1001 u dirty indian mother fucker how dare u talk abt my religion
mikekarry112 7 months ago
@mikekarry112 With due respect , I din't speak about ur religion, ok. ISKCON is an organisation & not a religion. They don't even know "V" of Vaishnavism & call themselves largest vaishnava organisation. If ur a true Vaishnavite, then u don't need any tag called ISKCON or Bharat Seva Ashram. Well I'am not surprised with the violence u displayed cuz I know that ISKCON IS A VIOLENT ORGANISATION. U talk ill about India & claim to be a Hindu! I donno how much I will honor u as a Vaishnava.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
@dswaroop1001 just for ur information FOUNDER OF ISKCON IS INDIA AND HE CREATE IT TO SPREAD HINDUISM OUT SIDE INDIA ISKCON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICAN GOVT SO STF UP AND IF U REALLY WANT TO SAVE UR COUNTRY THEN GO FIGHT WITH MUSLIM U STUPID RETARD
mikekarry112 7 months ago
@mikekarry112 By the way, I have my brain in my head & not in my knees. Founder of ISKCON was of Indian origin , but it started in U.S. He started a noble mission, but after his demise, his illict disciples adulterated his teachings & presented the fraud versions. How do I know? Cuz I was a Sanskrit student. I studied the original Sanskrit version of Gita on which Prabhupada's teachings were based. I hope u realise the truth very soon By The Grace of Lord Krishna. Take care. JAI HIND, JAI DURGA.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
HE IS MOTHER FUCKING RETARD
cfei12 7 months ago
Firstly,ISKCON Bangalore does not send any money to anyone.
Their Program, the Akshay Patra feeds 1 million children everyday across the country. At 5 Rupees a child, they require 5 million rupees a day to operate the program. That is more than 125 mill a month. All the collected funds goes into feeding hungry children and further expansion.
Let us stop Akshay Patra and give this Bastard Rajiv Dixit the job. Let him beg door to door collecting 125 mill. All these low lifes know is to Blabber.
arseanal34 7 months ago
The truth will be bitter need large hearts and great intelligence (like Rajiv Bhai) to deal with it...
Vivekanandainsp 7 months ago
@Vivekanandainsp
The soul can only "grow" if it guided properly and in the right direction. Your Rajiv Bhai is a good orator nonetheless he fails to understand the Krishna Consciousness Movement and the seriousness of the devotees. You cannot achieve superior consciousness by attending an IIT like your Rajiv Bhai. It only comes with a lifetime of Devotion to the supreme personality of godhead as described in the vedas. Attend an Iskcon sunday service to find out what actually happens there.
arseanal34 7 months ago
All the devotees who think that Rajiv Dixit is telling lie.. Check and give answer to your conciousness, don't be slaves of any thoughts or book or person or organization... The soul must grow inside.... Google for 'Dark side of ISKCON' check first link... (rickross site)
Vivekanandainsp 7 months ago
@Vivekanandainsp
ISKCON was started not by an American, but by a strong Vaishnava.The movement flourished during his presence.But soon after his departure,others started fighting literally for leadership. Since then there have been many instances of great devotees falling down which you are highlighting as "Dark side of ISKCON". It is foolish to think that once you are a devotee,you are free of material desires.Even the greatest of Devotees sometimes fall down.
arseanal34 7 months ago
@arseanal34 Correct. It was started by a strong Vaishnava, who unfortunately was assasinated by his own disciple who adulterated Prabhupada's teachings to earn profit. JAI HIND, JAI DURGA.
dswaroop1001 7 months ago
@shreyaskn107
British rules before 1947 were very transperant.. an they called it 'Its Burden of Whiteman' to civilize others.. Now Indian Forest Act, Indian Police Act, Land Aqusition Act.. many such are very very transperent.. But only fools will concord with them... who knows the pains of others, understands agony of poor will fight against them.. When poor are beening raped, killed outside, Krishna will not expect you to praise him in temple...
Vivekanandainsp 7 months ago
thosands of rajiv dixt like you cannot stop the mission of srila prabhupada who has a special mercy of Krishna. You are not even comparable to a neophype devotee of krishna. If indians like you had supported prabhupada's mission, american devotees would not have to come to preach your religion to you. These american are far better than you, at least they are chanting the holy name of the lord and not finding faults. I am also of indian origin and fell pity for you.
MaliniK1008 7 months ago
@MaliniK1008
May be this ISKON, is not quiet exposed right now we might tend to think that this is conspiracy.. but what about all the other looting things raised by Rajiv Dixit.. If found all facts not just listened to him..
Vivekanandainsp 7 months ago
@Vivekanandainsp
We will be forever grateful to the Lord if we can become slaves to Krishna. instead of reading/hearing your mundane talks devoid of any spiritualism, I very much prefer to read Srila Prabhupada's (ISKCON) books. A soul which is devoid of Krishna Consciousness is useless. Wherever there is good, there are also bad things, just take the example of the Samundara manthan, there was also poison and nectar involved. We shud b intelligent enough to choose the nectar i/o poison.
MaliniK1008 7 months ago
Rajiv dixit doesn't know anything about spirituality...let him to speak anything he wants..
MrPradipnath 8 months ago 2
@MrPradipnath
You deosn't even know what spirituality is.. Rajiv knows great deal of... Hare Krishna krishna singing songs blah blah is not spirituality.... One who mugs-up Geetha is not a Krishna's devotee.. He is true devotee who even without knowing Geetha but lives a Karma Yogi's life. Krishna never expects you to donate to temple or break a coconut or praise him that is really stupidity... Krishna expects you to life a life of Karma Yogi...
Vivekanandainsp 7 months ago
Somebody please clarify.
xenon387 8 months ago
Also, Iskcon mints money on Hindus, but is sort of anti-Hindu. They discredit Hindus or Hinduism on the whole. Many of their philosophies are really very narrow minded and weird. They claim to be "vedic" but are not. They just developed in the last couple of hundred years. Iskcon was formed in 1966 in New York.
Chhenu 9 months ago
@Chhenu iskcon is a bloody cult. their gurus are pedophiles, rapists, etc. this nasty cult needs to be exposed.
jaimaharishidayanand 8 months ago
@jaimaharishidayanand, sure there were all of these within Iskcon. But I wouldn't label one and all in that category. Yes it is a cult. And they ok with Hindu political, social and monetary support, but never support Hindu thought and philosophy, but on the contrary would at times criticize Hinduism as some thing not authentic but their own Gaudiya Sampradaya as authentic. They concoct own scriptures and explanations and don't accept originals. Sad.
Chhenu 8 months ago
@Chhenu Hare Krishna! I happen to be an admirer of Shriman Rajiv Dixit ji as well as His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad who was merciful and kind enough to go to the west at the age of 69 years and preach them Krishna Consciousness. In a short period of 12 years, due to his preaching and his inspired disciples more than 100 temples of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna, was established in many countries apart from 4 in India (during his time).
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, dear Soul, yes I'm aware of Prabhupad ji's teachings and life story.
All that Prabhupad ji did was certainly very commendable and wonderful. Only problem is that when he was in the west marketing his new formed organization, he was out there criticizing Hindus and the whole of Hinduism. Not just that he was abusive towards highly respected Indian saints. That was unfortunate on his part and not appreciable. His taught generations learnt to condemn Hindus parroting his words.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Dear, HDG Bhaktivedanta Swami was not abusive. He says that a real guru should give devotional service of God to his disciples, Krishna Prema, love of God. Anything other than that is cheating (not cheating as in looting money) because the disciple will waste his life if not given this love of God. This comes by practising Bhakti Yoga. All the teachings of the Brahma Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya is based on Srimad Bhagvad Maha Purana, Srimad Bhagavad Gita and Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@Chhenu The Vedas have explored all possibilities on all methods of knowing God. That is why we have Dwaita, Advaita, Vishistha Advaita, Shuddha Advaita branches of philosophy. Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya is of Brahma Sampradaya, one of the four authentic ones viz Kumar, Sri, Rudra & Brahma. You are saying this because of your lack of knowledge of the Vedas. With ISKCON, each temple has to manage their own finances and will not share donations collected with other ISKCON temples.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, yeah there comes out Iskcon mind. Attack one who doesn't accept you. My lack of knowledge of the Vedas. And only Iskcon and you are knower of the Vedas. Iskcon is stuck up in the Sampradaya business. Not Vedic. Iskcon does not read the Vedas. But advertise themselves as Vedic. If you want to start a debate here, be prepared with your facts. and please no attacks. Iskcon and the whole of Gaudiya Sampradaya practices hypocrisy and double standards on every step. True n provable.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu I do not claim to have a complete knowledge of the Vedas nor I have been taught what I know by only ISKCON. I read Swami Chinmayanand Missions handbook on introduction to Sanatana Dharma. I am not attacking you. Sampradaya means an ubroken chain of Spiritual Master and disciple and the fact that there will be no change in the teaching when the disciple becomes a Guru and teaches to his disciples. Absence of sampradaya means false gurus like Osho who concoct things of their own!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, This is incomplete definition of Sampradaya. SAM+PRADATT - to give equally, see equally. The word starts with an open mind, but narrow mindedness soon creeps in. GURU PARAMPARA is important. Strict adherence to one narrow sampradaya is not so important. Ex: Your sadhna can include Shakta and Shaiva sadhna methods. Formally 2 diffnt sampradayas. Yet an illuminated Guru can consider them both, understanding the essence. not remaining stuck up in one. This is Vedic.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Brahma Sampradaya? The proper name is Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya. Not Brahma Sampradaya. A proper "sampradaya" has a founder. First hypocrisy, double standard is that - it was not started by a. Lord Brahma, b. Madhavacharya. It was started by Nimai / Vishvambhar Mishra aka Chaitanya Krishna (Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who took only Brahmachari diksha under Shankaracharya sampradaya. If your knowledge of Vedas come from Iskcon, then it certainly is incomplete and very biased.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu It is originally Lord Brahma who taught this knowledge to Lord Narada who in turn taught to Shri Veda Vyasa and further down the line you have Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Shri Madhavacharya. Any guru in this lineage did not pass on the knowledge to just one disciple, therefore there are many organisations in Brahma Sampradaya. ISKCON comes under Brahma (Lord Brahma) Madhava ( Madhavacharya as one guru in the lineage)Gaudiya (area of Bengal) vaishnava sampradaya.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, No. This is not so dear. Brahma taught lot of things to Narada. What knowledge are you talking about?? Bhakti is there in every sampradaya. This is a forced claim. What is the direct line from Ved Vyasa to Chaitanya??? NONE!! This is a false claim to gain, authority. Nothing else. Don't read the Vedas, but then don't claim Vedic too. Don't cheat others when you reject Vedic knowledge. Show me where Vedas claim chanting of Krishna's name can only be good in Kaliyuga??
Chhenu 6 months ago
rajiv dixit ji is right
राजीव जी सच बात कह रहे है क्यों की इसकोंन के उपनिषद् में सब गोल गोल बाते है प्रमाणिक आर्ष विद्या नहीं है .
tdatar 9 months ago
@tdatar Hare Krishna! "ISKON ke Upanishad"? "Sab gol gol hain"? Aap hi bata di jiye na ke seedha kya hain? Shayad aap ek mahaan gyaani hain aur hamare jeevan ko safal banane ke liye comment kar rahe hain!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Iskcon books and teachings are very biased. Sorry dear. Be more open. VEDIC means vast ocean of knowledge. NOT stuck up mentality of one small sub sampradaya.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Not so. In kaliyuga, the recommended process, in the Vedas, to attain love of Godhead, is through the process of chanting of the holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna. This is what is followed and taught by all Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya and parampara, ISKCON is not the only one among all of them. Being focused on this process is not equal to being narrow minded. Sure, the Vedas is a vast ocean of knowledge, but will all human beings be able to read all.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@Chhenu The Vedas have philosophies that appeal to all kinds of people. The philosophy that I like may not be liked by some other. This is the beauty of the Vedas. But the end result is the same. Maybe in this lifetime or in any of the following lifetimes the sadhaka (spiritual practitioner) will attain the love of Godhead, as the spiritual knowledge gained in a lifetime is accumulated over many lifetimes unlike material knowledge which becomes zero with a new birth!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, true about love of God. What is God"HEAD"?? Typical Isckon concocted terminology like "karmi", etc. God is God. Also show me how many times Vedas talking about Krishna?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Godhead is Shri Krishna! Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Shri Isopanishad, Shri Brahma Samhita are the ones I know which says it!
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Yes. And so is Shiva God"HEAD" Lord Shiva is the father of the entire Cosmic manifestation and beyond it. And that's why Krishna worshipped him in every incarnation and asked Arjuna to worship him too. He worshipped him as Rama, as Vamana, as Vishnu. Narada also did. Gopis did. Kunti did. Its Vedic culture. Prabhupad along with Gaudiyas can't digest it. So Prabhupad and Gaudiyas retranslated and re purported the parts of scriptures with a very biased angle.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu There are 18 main puranas, 6 in rajas, 6 in tamas and 6 in sattva. Shiva Purana says Lord Shiva is Supreme, Srimad Bhagavatam says Lord Krishna is supreme. The sadhaka's personality helps him choose which personality of Godhead he likes more. To quote Goswami Tulsidas "Depending on the kind of feelings one nurtures
Lord Rama’s statue appears to him in that form". There has been no concoction. Srimad Bhagavat is translated the same in Swami Chinmayanand Mission. Its choice matter.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, yes so you tell me what Guna does the ShivMaha Puran comes under and why??
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu It comes under the tamas. Lord Shiva is the God of tamas and is very kind to people in predominantly tamasic guna such as ghosts and demons.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Yes and that's where your problem lies. That is why Gaudiyas are hypocrites and double standard liars. Simply because shri SHIV MAHAPURANA hails Lord Shiva, it becomes "Tamasic". This is plain foolishness n nothing else. God Shiva is not a God of Tamas of mode of ignorance. How can the supreme Lord who is beyond ALL 3 gunas of material nature and their controller be in tamo guna or be god of tamoguna?? In fact only he can give mercy to even ghosts. Who is ghost? Why so despise?
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Nobody is despising Lord Shiva. This categorization of all the puranas into sattva, rajas and tamas has not been done by ISKCON or Gaudiya Vaishanvas. Swami Chinmayanand's Mission also states it. If you would like to follow Shiva Purana, no one can object to it. What you should not try to do is to come to the conclusion that only Shiva Purana is autthentic. That would be counter productive to your sadhana.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, yes so what is counter productive to your sadhna would be to consider that only BG is authentic. Shiva Maha Purana is not "tamasic and its foolish to claim so. Period. It glorifies Lord Shiva. That's it. How can it be "tamasic"??? Lord Shiva is not Tamasic! Nor is he in charge of Tamoguna alone. he's wielder of all 3 Gunas and the entire cosmic manifestation, yet un effected by it all and above it all.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, Please read and understand your Srimad Bhagwatam and the words of Lord Brahma - foremost person of your sampradaya - : Shri Brahma -
" O siva , I know that You are the Supreme controller(Parameswara), You are both the father and the mother of the entire cosmic manifestation and as the one ever auspicious and supreme brahman who is beyond cosmic manifestation" (SB 4:6:42 )
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu As per Srimad Bhagavatam, Lord Shiva is the foremost Vaishnava "vaishanavanam yatha shambhu". Sadhakas who worship Lord Shiva as the Supreme Godhead will not agree with this. But it is not a problem. A sadhaka should focus on sadhana as you said and should choose a guru he is attracted to. There is no bias as such in Gaudiya sampradaya. It is just that they are following Srimad Bhagavat Mahapurana which the devotees of Lord Shiva are not. It appears to them as a bias, fraud etc.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, that is why there is double standards and hypocrisy in Iskcon and Gaudiyas. You quote n chose what is close to your thinking, rest reject from the source. Selective choice. Not complete truth. Srimad Bhagvatam also exalts Lord Shiva as the supreme n father of the entire Cosmic Manifestation. Infact the foremost personality of Gaudiya sampradaya (supposedly), claims this n hence cannot be wrong! That in SB. that all of Gaudiyas accept with one voice, despite their jealousies.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu A mind is like a parachute, it works only when it is open! There is no place for hatred or abuse in spiritual practice. In fact, spiritual practice should cause anger, fear, hatred, lust, greed and envy go away, to do the least. Spiritual Masters may comment on masters of other philosophies, but their disciples should never do it. Shri Rajiv Dixit has his facts in order all the time. He may be wrong about ISKCON. Anybody can make a mistake. He did not place any facts on his allegations.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, I agree. Mind should be open. But sampradayas and sects don't keep open mind. Rajiv Dixit ji was right on Iskcon. He is not stating exact account bills etc of Iskcon. But looking by the size of the temples and mutts, there is a huge money earning. Why do we need so much?? This huge expenditure? Food for Life program is good. Feed the poor and hungry. Not bricks n walls. But Hindu bashing?? Hindu saint bashing?? Low.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu There is no Hindu bashing by ISKCON, which is one of the Brahma Madhava Gaudiya Sampradaya. ISKCON is a preaching mission preaching the teachings of Srimad Bhagvad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam and Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita. Feeding the poor may offer temporary relief but permanent relief comes through eternal knowledge. With this knowledge, no matter whether one is poor or rich, black or white, man or woman, they will be happy forever. This knowledge is of devotional service to Shri Krishna.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, it is not so simple and black & white dear. There is plenty of Hindu bashing in Iskcon as well as Gaudiya Mutth. They consider most Hindu Gurus as "frauds" etc.. All sampradayas and worshipers of other forms of God as lower.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu 'Fraud' as in not following the process of Bhakti yoga as this is the only process they believe that can help a person to be free from birth, disease, old age and death! A vaishanva is dasanudas, servant of the servant of the servant of the Lord. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu on his meeting with a Mayavadi Sanyasa Guru (who was offered a proper seating) in Benares, sat on the floor, near a place where utensils were washed, showing his humility. He was opposed to Mayavad teachings.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, If someone is not following the "process of Bhakti" as in gaudiya - he must not be labeled as "fraud" This is very arrogant and narrow minded. There are different processes. Just because they are not following your type of bhakti or closer to your process, doesn't mean they are "frauds".
Also, Yogis are not materialists as claimed by Prabupada.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu No ISKCON guru calls any Guru of other sampradaya as fraud. It is a very broad term. Listening to Impersonalism philosophy is to be avoided, as told by Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The followers do the same. All Yogis are not materialists but siddhis are. Siddhis are those who want to obtain the ashta siddhi by performing penances. The goal is important. I may do yoga for bhakti, some other may do it to get material power. Ravana, Hiranyakashipu and Bhasmasur are examples.
TheSoulEternal 6 months ago
@TheSoulEternal, That's fine. But thereis nothing wrong with impersonalism. It is harder to grasp. That's it. Doesn't mean its "fraud". A general mood in Iskcon/Gaudiyas is "oh that is Hindu.. blah .." 'Prabhupad put down Hinduism on the whole. Sad. He put down exalted Hindu saints, but mostly only glorified his own Bengali swamis within sampradaya. Scope is narrow.
Chhenu 6 months ago
@Chhenu Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has advised his followers to avoid impersonalism. Hinduism is not only impersonalism, there is personalism, then ther