This is how serbian novelist Dobrica Cosic describe serbian (PATRIOTISM) build on lies.We lie to deceive ourselves,to console others;we lie for mercy,we lie to fihgt fear,to encourage ourselves,to hide our and somebody else's misery.We lie for love and honesty.We lie because freedom.The lie is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness.We lie creatively,imaginatively,inventively' Written by Dobrica Cosic who committed suicide on march 26,1984 in Belgrade.
@gferrie123 I agree to a certain extent, if a sniper is targeting armed man, i have no problem with that, however that was not the case in Sarajevo. Snipers were targeting anybody, children, women, old men etc. To me theses snipers were worst then murders they are animals as that is the only word i can think of to describe them. How can you concisely pull a trigger and kill a 10 year old girl, and go home and sleep like nothing happened? sick..
...yup sure you were sniper in bosnian "armi"..let's see..now you are 28 years old..that means that you had what like 11-12 years back at year '92..you sure was one jell of a sniper..and even now you continue to kill...lol one thing is sure...you're killing me..ha ha lol : ) p.s: izvini, jebiga brate, nema ljutnje
Tchetniks were soldiers and non-soldiers, sometimes peasants just joining for fun during week-ends. At that time, Serbians were organizing a huge genocide in Bosnia. It has nothing to do with special troopers taught to shoot people in very critical occasions.I thought it was necessary to be precise about the historical conditions when I shot that film.
This film was shot in Sarajevo during the siege. Tchetnik snipers were shooting at people, animals, objects, just to show their power to kill who, when and how they wanted. This is terrorism. It has nothing to do with what I read on most of these childish comments.
"un soir j'ai vue un esprie . il ma dit " tu vas mourir " est il a disparue . maintenant que vous avez lu sa vous aller mourir dans 3 jours exactement sauf si vous mettez sa sur 50 video, c'est pas de moi"
The series was never published. It was produced by Point du Jour (F) - BBC - Saga (Bosnia). PdJ was then bought by Canal+, and now it belongs to Riff. I wish it will be publish some day, but I have doubts. Sorry !
snipers are allowed to have feelings but if they have a target they cant let the feelings get in the way otherwise they are going against orders and everything they trained for is out the window, and also, nowadays 90% of snipers dont even need to shoot ther targets, just watch them,
Well a snipers real job is surveilance, Scout check out the place. Other part of the time they will take targets out but thats like 10 percent of the time.
there still humans, and humans are born with feelings, and theres no way to lose those feelings. so weather your a sniper or just some random guy, u were born with the same feelings. and who would kill people for fun, unless ur born with some mental problems, u wouldnt
snipers probably go through trained to surperss these feelings because i headed the during ww2 if a sniper had the oder to let NO ONE cross the bridge they would have to kill any one a mother,child
well if you have feelings those may get in the way and you may hesitate to shoot and after reduce the affects shell shock is that what its called or something else when the war is over
I am a 8541 Scout-Sniper in the U.S.M.C. While you are behind your Rifle, you do what you were trained and chosen for, to kill and kill specifically. While you are there, about to, during, or after taking a persons life, you do not hesitate or think about exactly what you have done, because all you have done is eliminate a threat and a target. We do have feelings about what we do. Every Sniper must have respect for human life or else he just becomes a murderer.
Problem with snipers in civil war is, that they are often paramilitary militias, not soldiers with some "code of honor"or responsibility. They shoot civilians, because they can, and because anybody, who is different, is considered enemy to their "cause" - doesn't matter, what cause it is - race, religion, etc.
Yes, you are right. There is confusion in using term sniper. I don't believe that those "snipers" in Sarajevo was really soldiers, not in active duty anyway. Imho they was thugs with scoped rifles, so when they made it to TV, they was marked as snipers ... which tells something about mindset of masmedia redactors.
DarkSide...Every sniper's first lecture is to stop looking at a target as a live human being. That is also why the US armu introduce human dize and looking targets, instead of old ones. Why? To prepare a sniper to shoot at a man, afterall, many could not do it, even though they believe that. Hell, I have met so many who can not kill a chicken or other food. YOu see what I mean. SNipers are murderors, I see them like that, since they give no fighting chance to their victims.
The text was written by the film director Ademir Kenovic who remained in Sarajevo during the whole siege... You may find an English translator for the text which explains the situation there at that time on my blog (March 1st 2006) and I'm happy noone in the crew has been shot during "the shooting". It was November 1993.
If you see the hills, the hills can see you. We were always moving, to make the work of the snipers harder. But never running, to show our pride. We could do nothing against the shells, they were falling any place. The end suggests a shot on the old woman, but do you really need to see it ?
stupid video because the Serbs snipers were shooting everybody. this video makes the snipers look like they cared about the people, not true! they killed women and children without even thinking about it! it was written good, but the video footage is horrible and it should have been filmed as first person view where he is walking thru town and looking around trying to hide from the sniper and at the end he gets shot.
You should read the English translation if you do not understand French. The snipers expressed their power shooting everything, everyone, a dog, a bucket full of water, a child or an old person, just to prove they were gods and could choose whom they wanted to kill. It IS filmed at first person view, both sides. The image is on the sniper's side, the sound on the possible victim's side...
Tchetniks were so called Weekend-Rambos. They just went there for fun, for robbing and killing.
MultiJerkku 8 months ago
Sniping means more than aiming at civilians... What the he'll he traces the children and an old man...
trace13kriken 1 year ago
This is how serbian novelist Dobrica Cosic describe serbian (PATRIOTISM) build on lies.We lie to deceive ourselves,to console others;we lie for mercy,we lie to fihgt fear,to encourage ourselves,to hide our and somebody else's misery.We lie for love and honesty.We lie because freedom.The lie is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness.We lie creatively,imaginatively,inventively' Written by Dobrica Cosic who committed suicide on march 26,1984 in Belgrade.
Silanebeska100 1 year ago
@gferrie123 I agree to a certain extent, if a sniper is targeting armed man, i have no problem with that, however that was not the case in Sarajevo. Snipers were targeting anybody, children, women, old men etc. To me theses snipers were worst then murders they are animals as that is the only word i can think of to describe them. How can you concisely pull a trigger and kill a 10 year old girl, and go home and sleep like nothing happened? sick..
VelezBiH 2 years ago
How you can call snipers assasins of coure you cano t be consiadre as assasin yust because you kill loughterors of muslim in srebrenica.
I was sniper in Bosnian armi 92-95 and i sill em sniper i kill but not civilians as they do.
grandreper 2 years ago
...yup sure you were sniper in bosnian "armi"..let's see..now you are 28 years old..that means that you had what like 11-12 years back at year '92..you sure was one jell of a sniper..and even now you continue to kill...lol one thing is sure...you're killing me..ha ha lol : ) p.s: izvini, jebiga brate, nema ljutnje
darkovich 2 years ago
@darkovich lol nice xD
bojo21nes 2 years ago
@grandreper ownd
bendikn 2 years ago
Sniping has always been a sort of dehumanised form of warfare.
The scope acts as a sort of buffer between shooter and target, making it seem somehow less real.
It's not as dehumanising as things like tank or long range artillery warfare, but is also more intricate.
In many ways, Sharp shooting is an artform, while the button pushers are just that, button pushers.
darkwartexx 2 years ago
It´s impossible to aim that calmly from a distance.
pedersenbrian 2 years ago
Tchetniks were soldiers and non-soldiers, sometimes peasants just joining for fun during week-ends. At that time, Serbians were organizing a huge genocide in Bosnia. It has nothing to do with special troopers taught to shoot people in very critical occasions.I thought it was necessary to be precise about the historical conditions when I shot that film.
androctonus7 3 years ago
This film was shot in Sarajevo during the siege. Tchetnik snipers were shooting at people, animals, objects, just to show their power to kill who, when and how they wanted. This is terrorism. It has nothing to do with what I read on most of these childish comments.
androctonus7 3 years ago
Please read the English translation on top right if you do not understand the French text.
The cases of snipers may be different regarding the political situation.
androctonus7 3 years ago
this video dosnt even make sense
jaxonthemitch 3 years ago
stupid
alfiec3 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"un soir j'ai vue un esprie . il ma dit " tu vas mourir " est il a disparue . maintenant que vous avez lu sa vous aller mourir dans 3 jours exactement sauf si vous mettez sa sur 50 video, c'est pas de moi"
cacameno 3 years ago
The series was never published. It was produced by Point du Jour (F) - BBC - Saga (Bosnia). PdJ was then bought by Canal+, and now it belongs to Riff. I wish it will be publish some day, but I have doubts. Sorry !
androctonus7 4 years ago
where can i see the full version of this video
mnpap4 4 years ago
This is the only version, it's short, but 110 other short films were produced in Sarajevo in the same series, and most of them are as efficient.
androctonus7 4 years ago
Where can I see them please!
mnpap4 4 years ago
snipers are allowed to have feelings but if they have a target they cant let the feelings get in the way otherwise they are going against orders and everything they trained for is out the window, and also, nowadays 90% of snipers dont even need to shoot ther targets, just watch them,
Eltuskio912k6 4 years ago
Why just watch them?
supersimy 4 years ago
Well a snipers real job is surveilance, Scout check out the place. Other part of the time they will take targets out but thats like 10 percent of the time.
Timmylikesdonuts 3 years ago
they may make funny faces at them.
Now what modern army wants a taunting enemy? Its embarassing and silly.
MKD247 3 years ago
there still humans, and humans are born with feelings, and theres no way to lose those feelings. so weather your a sniper or just some random guy, u were born with the same feelings. and who would kill people for fun, unless ur born with some mental problems, u wouldnt
sniper11235 4 years ago 2
snipers probably go through trained to surperss these feelings because i headed the during ww2 if a sniper had the oder to let NO ONE cross the bridge they would have to kill any one a mother,child
BTpaintballer 4 years ago
obviosly you have to follow orders if your in the military, but that doesnt mean you dont have feelings
sniper11235 4 years ago 2
well if you have feelings those may get in the way and you may hesitate to shoot and after reduce the affects shell shock is that what its called or something else when the war is over
BTpaintballer 4 years ago
I am a 8541 Scout-Sniper in the U.S.M.C. While you are behind your Rifle, you do what you were trained and chosen for, to kill and kill specifically. While you are there, about to, during, or after taking a persons life, you do not hesitate or think about exactly what you have done, because all you have done is eliminate a threat and a target. We do have feelings about what we do. Every Sniper must have respect for human life or else he just becomes a murderer.
DarkSideSeven 4 years ago 2
you just said that they traind you to be a murderer.....so can not be nothiong else but murderer.
timur1lenk 4 years ago
Problem with snipers in civil war is, that they are often paramilitary militias, not soldiers with some "code of honor"or responsibility. They shoot civilians, because they can, and because anybody, who is different, is considered enemy to their "cause" - doesn't matter, what cause it is - race, religion, etc.
peterh778 3 years ago
There is a BIG difference between someone who has a scope on a rifle and a Sniper. At most you could call that a marksman.
DarkSideSeven 3 years ago
Yes, you are right. There is confusion in using term sniper. I don't believe that those "snipers" in Sarajevo was really soldiers, not in active duty anyway. Imho they was thugs with scoped rifles, so when they made it to TV, they was marked as snipers ... which tells something about mindset of masmedia redactors.
peterh778 3 years ago
DarkSide...Every sniper's first lecture is to stop looking at a target as a live human being. That is also why the US armu introduce human dize and looking targets, instead of old ones. Why? To prepare a sniper to shoot at a man, afterall, many could not do it, even though they believe that. Hell, I have met so many who can not kill a chicken or other food. YOu see what I mean. SNipers are murderors, I see them like that, since they give no fighting chance to their victims.
halomolim 3 years ago
The text was written by the film director Ademir Kenovic who remained in Sarajevo during the whole siege... You may find an English translator for the text which explains the situation there at that time on my blog (March 1st 2006) and I'm happy noone in the crew has been shot during "the shooting". It was November 1993.
The director.
androctonus7 4 years ago
If you see the hills, the hills can see you. We were always moving, to make the work of the snipers harder. But never running, to show our pride. We could do nothing against the shells, they were falling any place. The end suggests a shot on the old woman, but do you really need to see it ?
androctonus7 4 years ago
stupid video because the Serbs snipers were shooting everybody. this video makes the snipers look like they cared about the people, not true! they killed women and children without even thinking about it! it was written good, but the video footage is horrible and it should have been filmed as first person view where he is walking thru town and looking around trying to hide from the sniper and at the end he gets shot.
mdzeno1 4 years ago
You should read the English translation if you do not understand French. The snipers expressed their power shooting everything, everyone, a dog, a bucket full of water, a child or an old person, just to prove they were gods and could choose whom they wanted to kill. It IS filmed at first person view, both sides. The image is on the sniper's side, the sound on the possible victim's side...
androctonus7 4 years ago
You'll find an English translation of the text if you click on (more) after the director's name...
androctonus7 4 years ago
It would help if you guys actually spoke(and understood) French before you made negative comments.
Duallnfinity 4 years ago
why the old cripple?
erargel 4 years ago
gay
johnieplaystheguitar 4 years ago
you fucking wanker people like you are the fucking school shoots, so i fucking hate your guts and hope you fuking die you stupid fuck
liamlovestube 4 years ago
yugoslavian people they have no feelings but one off the best snipers in the world
ParaCriminal 4 years ago
thats gay
posthert 4 years ago
magnifique
khaledonia 4 years ago
Un très beau reportage si on peut l'appeller comme ça!
Bravo!
alex78130 5 years ago
gay
posthert 4 years ago