love Switchfoot because their music doesnt just go out to one main set of ppl..though their music may sound like its only for christians, their music goes out to all kinds of ppl, regardless of faith, beliefs, or religion...i thank God for Switchfoot!luv this group!
everyone believes in something and that is their right. i don't like organized religion it breeds hate but i am spiritual which is the freedom to choose. there is a big difference
idk about anyone else, but it's stupid that on every Switchfoot video on youtube, people are arguing, and I know it needs to be done...buts it's annoying. Just enjoy the song
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Oh, not at all! The Bible is full of people openly asking God why He would allow things to happen to them. Just because we can't see God sometimes, does not mean He does not exist or does not care. He is glorified by our outrage at the evidences of evil in this world--that may be one of the biggest reasons He allows evil to exist in this present age. He doesn't take joy in our harm, but receives glory when we acknowledge and experience His steady love & grace in the midst!
ok "calane111", you seem to be very christian but im not. im atheist and i have this tendency to stamp religion and any reasoning behind it as, pardon me, bullshit. this is partly because i cant believe in it and partly because most arguments for religion i find have a mistake behind them.
for your argument, i just want to say that it would be very egoistic for god to let bad things happen
just to make the people see his glory.
and please dont start something im not interested in ;)
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE I get the egotistic argument, until I consider that His is the only "ego" (or more correctly "honor") that matters. He is the reason for everything, therefore, everything HAS to, SHOULD, and DOES revolve around Him. The very reason it is bad for us to be egotistical is because it is putting ourselves as more important than Him or anyone else. The reason He made each of us is to show that He loves us in spite of our fatal egotism and to deliver us from it if we will let Him.
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE And trust me, you're not the first atheist who finds God egotistical, doesn't think they can believe in God, and who thinks it's all BS...but you also wouldn't be the first person who changed their mind after truly learning Who God is. :)
ok, as i said dont start something im not interested in...meaning i dont need a convo about religion because ive had that soooo often and i dont need to do it again. if we assumed that god existed and that he has some sort of a higher purpose with our existence your argument kindof would make sence but im an atheist and thats also why your 2nd part made me laugh out loud because i assure you, i will never ever change my mind because not only does religion seems totally unrealistic
ok, as i said dont start something im not interested in...meaning i dont need a convo about religion because ive had that soooo often and i dont need to do it again. if we assumed that god existed and that he has some sort of a higher purpose with our existence your argument kindof would make sence but im an atheist and thats also why your 2nd part made me laugh out loud because i assure you, i will never ever change my mind because not only does religion seems totally unrealistic
but in addition i think religion is evil because it makes people think there will be a good afterlife and cheats them about this lifes, our only 80 years we have on earth meaning.
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE k....I know you don't want to talk about this, but now I really want to hear what you see the purpose of life as being...can you chat just a bit more? (btw, I hate it when people carry out long winded conversations under a youtube vid..not sure why I'm being that person!)
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Both sides of my grandparents are Christians. They are some of the happiest old people. They are also clever, witty, wise and are not forgetful or aloof either. Their lives are a real blessing and meaningful to me and many others they know. Their lives are not cheated or wasted because of their faith. I don't mean to argue or be rude. I just wanted to point out my experiences. But if you're saying some religions are taken too far on that I agree.
for many or most people it probably doesnt have any of this cheating effect i described but many of my relatives aer wondering what they did wrong to deserve their children having bad ilnesses. and instead of enjoying and making the best out of what they have they pray to a god that doesnt exist and wont help them and think that their next life will be better. so they are being cheated for the only time they have and should be enjoying...
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Ahhh no no no, idont mean to interupt but, they must not be very strong in their faith, because we know that God uses the imperfections in his children, very often, to show his glory and perfection, God uses the incompetent to show that he can use anybody to do good, and can do anything. Like any of the people Jesus healed in the New Testament, Their ailment was there to give glory to God, it was not for any sin they committed. And serving God is the best experience
@justinionful Oh right, I forgot that cancer was just a means of glorifying God. Silly me. Sometimes I forget that if it weren't for the half a million people that cancer kills each year, the miracle of God saving a terminal case wouldn't seem so amazing. What are a few dead parents, siblings, or children compared to the chance for God to show off his power?
@iamihop11 We as human beings are funny things aren't we... my aunt was diagnosed with breast cancer recently, and just like you looking at cancer and its horror, I see the unfairness of it, and every other human sickness and pain. But that's funny, isn't it? What divine thing enlightened us that there is a perfect we seek, completeness, to put it as C.S. Lewis did, perfect joy? And whatever it is that enlightened us that suffering is *wrong* somehow, contrary to our deepest nature, it must...
@iamihop11 ...be pretty powerful considering HOW wrong suffering feels, how certain we are that this evil and incomplete state falls short of a perfect goal. I would say, friend, that in the confusion and paradox of our existence as humanity, we intuitively feel the Mind of God, absolute perfection, at our deepest. Exterior to that and in contrast to that intuitive love and goodness, we see wills colliding with that intuitive perfection producing evil, death, suffering, and then we see...
@iamihop11 ...senseless material perversion standing out against that intuitive perfection like a sore thumb, things like cancer. Sometimes it can be hard to forgive the God we feel intuitively, sometimes it can be hard to accept that the Light by which we see the shadows as darkness and wrong is not the source of that very darkness that is defined by it. Nevertheless, that Light will continue to be with you in the very unfairness.
@iamihop11 Christians are people who believe that the very Mind of God that has always been with us, always been closer than anything else, that has always been the Light that we intuitively perceive darkness and evil as incomplete and unfair, did not abandon humanity to be alone in the mystery of suffering, but consummated the union He already had with humanity and became a man, the historical person of Jesus Christ. The very act of joining to humanity meant he joined Himself to its suffering.
@iamihop11 By doing this God made that perfection and perfect goodness we all feel inside attainable to us, even through suffering. He poured out His love on us through communing with us in our pain. The mystery of suffering will never absolutely make sense, especially to those going through it. But this Christian spirituality makes sense with what we intuitively know as human beings, and we will attain that perfect light through Jesus Christ. I am Catholic, this is what I believe. God bless
@justinionful I also don't mean to interrupt, but if you just believe and love the Lord, there is no religion, as I have said (a lot) lol that religion has boundaries, God does not. I know some parts of religion are a little crazy, that is why I am not religious, I love the Lord, nothing anyone could say or do can take that away from me. I experienced him and no science is going to take that away. So many religions don't see the things in the bible that true believers do.
" For us, it's a faith, not a genre " and "We've always been very open and honest about where the songs are coming from. For us, these songs are for everyone. Calling us 'Christian rock' tends to be a box that closes some people out and excludes them, and that's not what we're trying to do. Music has always opened my mind—and that's what we want"
quotes from john foreman
and now stop bitching about religion in their music, nuff said lads.
i made a huge mistake this summer and now it feels like everythings falling apart... all my friends are mad at me now, my parents dont seem to trust me anymore, i feel like i dont even know myself anymore...so i just pray that someday everything will be okay again, and i know deep down it will because god will help me through it all. its just really hard right now but its gonna get better...if anyone who sees this is having a hard time too i just want you to know you are NEVER alone. GOD BLESS
@KayleeNielsenOffcial I used to be like that when everything was messed up. I realized that I wanted to change my life how I wanted to live it. It did it one step at a time, but in the end it worked out. If you try hard enough, you can get your life to how you want it.
Beautiful. No matter who you are you can't say that you've never had this feeling. The feeling of vulnerability. Full of Hope but lacking in Faith. This is one of those songs which increasing your hope, and also increases your faith.
@jamespwest523 Very well said. Jon's vulnerability is what makes him such a passionate and relatable artist. This is my favorite Switchfoot song. Hope and faith are often found at the bottom of life's valleys, and this song gets that.
Replay anyone? This song is so amazing! A couple days ago we went to see them and after Jon went out into the parking lot and played this song. Now it always make me think of that. What a wonderful band. God bless.
love Switchfoot because their music doesnt just go out to one main set of ppl..though their music may sound like its only for christians, their music goes out to all kinds of ppl, regardless of faith, beliefs, or religion...i thank God for Switchfoot!luv this group!
musiclovernettab 3 weeks ago
everyone believes in something and that is their right. i don't like organized religion it breeds hate but i am spiritual which is the freedom to choose. there is a big difference
roadkill420 4 weeks ago
Why do people always bring religion into listening to Switchfoot?
I love their music, regardless of whether it's Christian or not.
TheFreakinBatman 1 month ago
"The ocean sounds like a garage band,
coming to me like a drunk man.
The ocean telling me a thousand stories,
none of them are lies."
BrozifHardy 2 months ago
replay!!!!!!
mhacymballs 2 months ago
idk about anyone else, but it's stupid that on every Switchfoot video on youtube, people are arguing, and I know it needs to be done...buts it's annoying. Just enjoy the song
NewOldStock1 3 months ago
You got your babies, I got my hearses
every blessing comes with a set of curses
I got my vices
I got my vice verses
Amazing!
TheStrawberryswinger 3 months ago in playlist Meer video's van CotyRoberts
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giraffe314 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
that guy is damn right myrm...
AlexanderIIITheGreat 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
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favorite band since i was a little kid and that will never change!
Darsoldis13 4 months ago
"wheres god in the genocide?"
for them being a christian rock band, which you guys are discussing about
that seems rather critical towards religion...
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Oh, not at all! The Bible is full of people openly asking God why He would allow things to happen to them. Just because we can't see God sometimes, does not mean He does not exist or does not care. He is glorified by our outrage at the evidences of evil in this world--that may be one of the biggest reasons He allows evil to exist in this present age. He doesn't take joy in our harm, but receives glory when we acknowledge and experience His steady love & grace in the midst!
calane111 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Playlist
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MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago
@calane111
ok "calane111", you seem to be very christian but im not. im atheist and i have this tendency to stamp religion and any reasoning behind it as, pardon me, bullshit. this is partly because i cant believe in it and partly because most arguments for religion i find have a mistake behind them.
for your argument, i just want to say that it would be very egoistic for god to let bad things happen
just to make the people see his glory.
and please dont start something im not interested in ;)
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE I get the egotistic argument, until I consider that His is the only "ego" (or more correctly "honor") that matters. He is the reason for everything, therefore, everything HAS to, SHOULD, and DOES revolve around Him. The very reason it is bad for us to be egotistical is because it is putting ourselves as more important than Him or anyone else. The reason He made each of us is to show that He loves us in spite of our fatal egotism and to deliver us from it if we will let Him.
calane111 4 months ago
@calane111 Woah man... I never even thought of things like that....
InuRyutheDiegron 4 months ago
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE And trust me, you're not the first atheist who finds God egotistical, doesn't think they can believe in God, and who thinks it's all BS...but you also wouldn't be the first person who changed their mind after truly learning Who God is. :)
calane111 4 months ago
@calane111
ok, as i said dont start something im not interested in...meaning i dont need a convo about religion because ive had that soooo often and i dont need to do it again. if we assumed that god existed and that he has some sort of a higher purpose with our existence your argument kindof would make sence but im an atheist and thats also why your 2nd part made me laugh out loud because i assure you, i will never ever change my mind because not only does religion seems totally unrealistic
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
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@calane111
ok, as i said dont start something im not interested in...meaning i dont need a convo about religion because ive had that soooo often and i dont need to do it again. if we assumed that god existed and that he has some sort of a higher purpose with our existence your argument kindof would make sence but im an atheist and thats also why your 2nd part made me laugh out loud because i assure you, i will never ever change my mind because not only does religion seems totally unrealistic
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
@calane111
but in addition i think religion is evil because it makes people think there will be a good afterlife and cheats them about this lifes, our only 80 years we have on earth meaning.
cheers
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE k....I know you don't want to talk about this, but now I really want to hear what you see the purpose of life as being...can you chat just a bit more? (btw, I hate it when people carry out long winded conversations under a youtube vid..not sure why I'm being that person!)
calane111 4 months ago
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Both sides of my grandparents are Christians. They are some of the happiest old people. They are also clever, witty, wise and are not forgetful or aloof either. Their lives are a real blessing and meaningful to me and many others they know. Their lives are not cheated or wasted because of their faith. I don't mean to argue or be rude. I just wanted to point out my experiences. But if you're saying some religions are taken too far on that I agree.
InuRyutheDiegron 4 months ago
@InuRyutheDiegron
for many or most people it probably doesnt have any of this cheating effect i described but many of my relatives aer wondering what they did wrong to deserve their children having bad ilnesses. and instead of enjoying and making the best out of what they have they pray to a god that doesnt exist and wont help them and think that their next life will be better. so they are being cheated for the only time they have and should be enjoying...
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Ahhh no no no, idont mean to interupt but, they must not be very strong in their faith, because we know that God uses the imperfections in his children, very often, to show his glory and perfection, God uses the incompetent to show that he can use anybody to do good, and can do anything. Like any of the people Jesus healed in the New Testament, Their ailment was there to give glory to God, it was not for any sin they committed. And serving God is the best experience
justinionful 3 months ago
@justinionful Oh right, I forgot that cancer was just a means of glorifying God. Silly me. Sometimes I forget that if it weren't for the half a million people that cancer kills each year, the miracle of God saving a terminal case wouldn't seem so amazing. What are a few dead parents, siblings, or children compared to the chance for God to show off his power?
Thanks for reminding me.
iamihop11 3 weeks ago
@iamihop11 We as human beings are funny things aren't we... my aunt was diagnosed with breast cancer recently, and just like you looking at cancer and its horror, I see the unfairness of it, and every other human sickness and pain. But that's funny, isn't it? What divine thing enlightened us that there is a perfect we seek, completeness, to put it as C.S. Lewis did, perfect joy? And whatever it is that enlightened us that suffering is *wrong* somehow, contrary to our deepest nature, it must...
pj100003 1 week ago
@iamihop11 ...be pretty powerful considering HOW wrong suffering feels, how certain we are that this evil and incomplete state falls short of a perfect goal. I would say, friend, that in the confusion and paradox of our existence as humanity, we intuitively feel the Mind of God, absolute perfection, at our deepest. Exterior to that and in contrast to that intuitive love and goodness, we see wills colliding with that intuitive perfection producing evil, death, suffering, and then we see...
pj100003 1 week ago
@iamihop11 ...senseless material perversion standing out against that intuitive perfection like a sore thumb, things like cancer. Sometimes it can be hard to forgive the God we feel intuitively, sometimes it can be hard to accept that the Light by which we see the shadows as darkness and wrong is not the source of that very darkness that is defined by it. Nevertheless, that Light will continue to be with you in the very unfairness.
pj100003 1 week ago
@iamihop11 Christians are people who believe that the very Mind of God that has always been with us, always been closer than anything else, that has always been the Light that we intuitively perceive darkness and evil as incomplete and unfair, did not abandon humanity to be alone in the mystery of suffering, but consummated the union He already had with humanity and became a man, the historical person of Jesus Christ. The very act of joining to humanity meant he joined Himself to its suffering.
pj100003 1 week ago
@iamihop11 By doing this God made that perfection and perfect goodness we all feel inside attainable to us, even through suffering. He poured out His love on us through communing with us in our pain. The mystery of suffering will never absolutely make sense, especially to those going through it. But this Christian spirituality makes sense with what we intuitively know as human beings, and we will attain that perfect light through Jesus Christ. I am Catholic, this is what I believe. God bless
pj100003 1 week ago
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE oh happiness you can feel, speaking from my own opinion/experience.
justinionful 3 months ago
@justinionful I also don't mean to interrupt, but if you just believe and love the Lord, there is no religion, as I have said (a lot) lol that religion has boundaries, God does not. I know some parts of religion are a little crazy, that is why I am not religious, I love the Lord, nothing anyone could say or do can take that away from me. I experienced him and no science is going to take that away. So many religions don't see the things in the bible that true believers do.
castiel662 2 months ago 2
love this song so much!!
joeterri3462 4 months ago
I've found the song I'm going to sing my kids to sleep with :)
hummer616 4 months ago in playlist Moosic
" For us, it's a faith, not a genre " and "We've always been very open and honest about where the songs are coming from. For us, these songs are for everyone. Calling us 'Christian rock' tends to be a box that closes some people out and excludes them, and that's not what we're trying to do. Music has always opened my mind—and that's what we want"
quotes from john foreman
and now stop bitching about religion in their music, nuff said lads.
MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
No dislikes..just how it should be
BraveJanitor 4 months ago in playlist Switchfoot Vice Verses Full Album
Hello my new favorite Switchfoot song.
Musicvideofavorites 4 months ago
thanks god he made this epic band of all time..
mikejay024 4 months ago
@KayleeNielsenOffcial Through God all things are possible.
Just keep your head up, and things will look up! :) Have a good day
CotyRoberts 4 months ago 17
i made a huge mistake this summer and now it feels like everythings falling apart... all my friends are mad at me now, my parents dont seem to trust me anymore, i feel like i dont even know myself anymore...so i just pray that someday everything will be okay again, and i know deep down it will because god will help me through it all. its just really hard right now but its gonna get better...if anyone who sees this is having a hard time too i just want you to know you are NEVER alone. GOD BLESS
KayleeNielsenOffcial 4 months ago 3
@KayleeNielsenOffcial I used to be like that when everything was messed up. I realized that I wanted to change my life how I wanted to live it. It did it one step at a time, but in the end it worked out. If you try hard enough, you can get your life to how you want it.
Reloading26 4 months ago
@Reloading26 thanks i needed that :)
KayleeNielsenOffcial 4 months ago
Beautiful. No matter who you are you can't say that you've never had this feeling. The feeling of vulnerability. Full of Hope but lacking in Faith. This is one of those songs which increasing your hope, and also increases your faith.
jamespwest523 4 months ago 22
@jamespwest523 Very well said. Jon's vulnerability is what makes him such a passionate and relatable artist. This is my favorite Switchfoot song. Hope and faith are often found at the bottom of life's valleys, and this song gets that.
rh1252 4 months ago
Replay anyone? This song is so amazing! A couple days ago we went to see them and after Jon went out into the parking lot and played this song. Now it always make me think of that. What a wonderful band. God bless.
peacetachios 4 months ago
This is an awesome song!
Jaws1015 5 months ago 4