causing nuisance to others,damaging property,underage drinking and underage smoking,throwing and misusing fireworks,harrassing old people and picking on disabled people and generally causing problems, then how is constant reasoning and non physical punishment with these errant and feral out of control children (for which no amount of softly softly dogooding will bring to heel or control) supposed to work? Tell me how it does and can work with "do as we like" kids.
You can not let children run the house. Taking away a toy is not punishment. A good crack on the ass is instant. It is not the same as beating a child to death. Goddamn people do you need the goverment to do every fucking thing for you? It is not up to them to raise your kid. This research is BULLSHIT. How many kids had that ass spanked yet have not killed of hurt anyone? Take charge of your kids tell the goverment to screw off. PUSSIES
I am a teacher in South Africa and I have seen how children have changed, for the worse, since corporal punishment has been banned from schools since 1994. Children are more abusive to their teachers, swear at them openly and disrupt the whole learning process for the children who want to learn. Many other teachers and I find it disturbing when we tell parents about the conduct of their children and they defiantly refuse to believe what we are saying.
@jacsmaurice the same thing happened all the time in the high school i used to go to in Maine. i almost failed physics because some smart-arse group of students kept disrupting the class and distracting the teacher when i needed help the most. Some students actually went out of their way to make trouble for the teacher. One student actually wrote the word c-u-n and the letter t on the board in front of the teacher.
People that try to justify corporal punishment by the Bible simply dont know what they are doing. The old testiment was for it but christ delivered us from it in the new testiment.
Well I'm 16 years old and my parents spanked me when i was a child and i didn't feel like it was abuse. It was my consequence. It didn't lead me to a drug-addicted, violent life. i atcually think that it's made me more self disciplined and i have respect for them. it isn't abuse when applied in the correct manner or when controlled. but smacking a child for something stupid is just wrong. i fully understand my parents intentions and i am glad they did it.
Same here mismatched. As a child I was angry with them for spanking me but then again any form of punishment would have made me angry with them not only that but I was a bit on the devious side and no amount of timeouts, talks, or other verbal discipline worked. I learned to associate "hitting classmate" with "spanking" and that ended that. Once I entered adolescence I understood why they did what they did and I'm glad they acted like parents rather than "friends" like I see so many today.
Criminalising parents for smacking a child will only drive the problem underground where you cant control it, and such a law would be hard to enforce and difficult to uphold.
If you smack an adult you get hauled up in front of a judge. yet you think it should be legal to smack a child?.I do not understand the logic. at least an adult can smack back a small child is helpless against the smacks of adults.where do you draw the line? I have kids I have no recourse to ever smack them. Smacking only serves to make an adult feel more in control gives them power. well there are better ways to have good behavior from your child and keep their love and respect at the same time
Spanking is only used as a last means/resort if all else fails. Some children need it more than others, but everyone grows up and spankings stop at certain ages. This is just overanalyzed and blown out of proportion. Haven't ya'll got something better to work on like child protection reform, the manipulative and deceitful ways of Child protection agencies?
some of you truly are masters when posting utter crap is concerned. 'violence is the answer' was a classic highlight, as well as'kids need their asses beat once in a while' hm. right, very true yeah...no. sorry but it isnt true and it isnt right. the furthest any parent should go should be a quick smack on the hand,the backside on the other is sexual harrassment. unless your married/or not and do that stuff in the bedroom, its not appropriate. pls do get it right.
' Ive turned out fine', ' never did me any harm' oh and whats another one um..? oh yes,'Ive turned out okay' - BULLSHIT. Pure and utter bullshit. When you make a statement such as that you are only strongly indicating that you havent turned out fine,that it did do you harm and well you kind of havent turned out as well as you hoped. God those words from some of you really frustrate me, and yeah, I AM completely %100 agaisnt corporal punishment. All i can say is that its wrong,simple.
you know what, let me make this very brief and simple. okay: if adults arent allowed to hit adults, if children arent allowed to hit adults and if children arent allowed to hit children then how come children are the ones who are allowed to get hit?where is the justice in that when children are human beings just like adults? smacking is just wrong.hitting, belting,whipping,flogging,beating ect---its all wrong
kids need there asses beat once and a while! wtf is wrong with you ppl? shit i got hit all the time and i turned out fine, wake up ppl a lil time out isn't going to faze a child!!
kids don't listen to adults this is kids of all ages if a child runs onto a busy road shouting talking and pleading does not work for kids or parents look at the number of neds and evil kids throwing bricks and stealing cars mugging old ladies
ugh smacking is a good thing parents don't have as much of an authority figure now they try to be friends with kids THAT is what i call failed parenting violence can be the answer
hitting is never a good thing no matter how hard it may be at times. THere is always a better way. True disipline isnt hitting and dosnt even mean punishment. What about peoples like the lakota navajo or swedes they always have a better way. Now that i think of it bum slapping is pretty much noexsistent in japan as well. Although the very
I'm not saying Corporal Punishment of Young People should be brought back but some kids need to be hit. This is why there's so many evil teenagers walking around. We let them get away with a lot of things.
bull crap no child or anyone should be hit. There is always always a better way no matter the onsiquence no matter how hard it may be at times. After all what about the navajo or lakota or swedes they never hit thier children but are stillraise them strictly.
This man speaks truth. In fact I think there was one guy called norm lee who went out of his way to find a prison where he discovered one person there had not been punished corporally!
adults get away with a lot of outrageous things also, but who disciplines them? If jails and the army and other parts of society do not use corporal punishment why should schools and parents. corporal punishment is used to "modify and correct" the behavior of children, but what's used to correct the behavior of the parents
The answer to that of course is corporal punishment of adults. Robert Heinlein had it right. A short, sharp shock can be very beneficial when nothing else works.
i do not spank my child and i think it is failed parenting to do so. you only strike out of anger and frustration and children learn nothing productive from that.
I don't. I got my ear clipped and my arse slapped and quickly learnt not to repeat the action which caused it. I can understand why it could be claimed by some to be the actions bourne from frustration, but not in all cases. I think that punsihment, of any kind, must be administered with repsect and love - and YES I believe smacking can be. It was with me, and has been with my son. He no longer needs smacked - productive learning
There is something very strange about your logic to me: How on earth is causing someone pain loving? If you loved them so much, why not use something that doesn't involve harm if you can, but is just as effective?
oupse I ment to give you a thumbs down, but I clicked at the wrong time.
I was abused as a child, and my mom and dad hit me out of anger, that WAS bad, but not every spanking is out of anger. I will spank my children (when they are old enough to understand) It is only ment to help them grow to be healthy grownups, never to be out of anger.
I would advise you to reconsder. It's not necessary and I know as someone who can testify to knowing some great, intelligent, gentle kids raised on the ideas of common (not pop) positive discipline. That's all I'll say.
To me, whether it's a so called "gentle smack" or "abusively hitting with a large object" doesn't make any difference. They are two things that relate in their approach, and that is to harm and to cause fear for obedience.
If you have kids who are;
causing nuisance to others,damaging property,underage drinking and underage smoking,throwing and misusing fireworks,harrassing old people and picking on disabled people and generally causing problems, then how is constant reasoning and non physical punishment with these errant and feral out of control children (for which no amount of softly softly dogooding will bring to heel or control) supposed to work? Tell me how it does and can work with "do as we like" kids.
AnthonyUK 7 months ago
You pro-spankers can say that it's just discipline, but I'll tell you, "You can tell that to Child Protective Services and the judge."
Warrior1984100 1 year ago
You can not let children run the house. Taking away a toy is not punishment. A good crack on the ass is instant. It is not the same as beating a child to death. Goddamn people do you need the goverment to do every fucking thing for you? It is not up to them to raise your kid. This research is BULLSHIT. How many kids had that ass spanked yet have not killed of hurt anyone? Take charge of your kids tell the goverment to screw off. PUSSIES
kd5icr1967 1 year ago
I did turn out ok after smacking. I'm glad the UK hasn't banned smacking.
AnthonyUK 1 year ago
Thank you SO MUCH to my parents for paddling me when I was being disrespectful and doing something wrong or/and inappropriate!!!
I'm now a respectful person :)
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
I am a teacher in South Africa and I have seen how children have changed, for the worse, since corporal punishment has been banned from schools since 1994. Children are more abusive to their teachers, swear at them openly and disrupt the whole learning process for the children who want to learn. Many other teachers and I find it disturbing when we tell parents about the conduct of their children and they defiantly refuse to believe what we are saying.
jacsmaurice 2 years ago
@jacsmaurice the same thing happened all the time in the high school i used to go to in Maine. i almost failed physics because some smart-arse group of students kept disrupting the class and distracting the teacher when i needed help the most. Some students actually went out of their way to make trouble for the teacher. One student actually wrote the word c-u-n and the letter t on the board in front of the teacher.
superzodiac1000 8 months ago
People that try to justify corporal punishment by the Bible simply dont know what they are doing. The old testiment was for it but christ delivered us from it in the new testiment.
guidav123 2 years ago
When do "smacks" lead to "Belts" and where do draw that imaginary line in the sand between "hurt" and "injuring" a child!
fitasafiddle123 3 years ago
Well I'm 16 years old and my parents spanked me when i was a child and i didn't feel like it was abuse. It was my consequence. It didn't lead me to a drug-addicted, violent life. i atcually think that it's made me more self disciplined and i have respect for them. it isn't abuse when applied in the correct manner or when controlled. but smacking a child for something stupid is just wrong. i fully understand my parents intentions and i am glad they did it.
m1smatch3d 3 years ago 4
Same here mismatched. As a child I was angry with them for spanking me but then again any form of punishment would have made me angry with them not only that but I was a bit on the devious side and no amount of timeouts, talks, or other verbal discipline worked. I learned to associate "hitting classmate" with "spanking" and that ended that. Once I entered adolescence I understood why they did what they did and I'm glad they acted like parents rather than "friends" like I see so many today.
AkhilleusWeeps 2 years ago 6
Criminalising parents for smacking a child will only drive the problem underground where you cant control it, and such a law would be hard to enforce and difficult to uphold.
AnthonyUK 3 years ago
If you smack an adult you get hauled up in front of a judge. yet you think it should be legal to smack a child?.I do not understand the logic. at least an adult can smack back a small child is helpless against the smacks of adults.where do you draw the line? I have kids I have no recourse to ever smack them. Smacking only serves to make an adult feel more in control gives them power. well there are better ways to have good behavior from your child and keep their love and respect at the same time
oliesbw 3 years ago
Corporal Punishment is Barbarian Savagery.
Anybody who even agrees with it should be tied to a wall and have stones thrown at them.
you want savage punishments, you get them!
Taddo93 4 years ago 4
Spanking is only used as a last means/resort if all else fails. Some children need it more than others, but everyone grows up and spankings stop at certain ages. This is just overanalyzed and blown out of proportion. Haven't ya'll got something better to work on like child protection reform, the manipulative and deceitful ways of Child protection agencies?
kkandaub 4 years ago
some of you truly are masters when posting utter crap is concerned. 'violence is the answer' was a classic highlight, as well as'kids need their asses beat once in a while' hm. right, very true yeah...no. sorry but it isnt true and it isnt right. the furthest any parent should go should be a quick smack on the hand,the backside on the other is sexual harrassment. unless your married/or not and do that stuff in the bedroom, its not appropriate. pls do get it right.
JessicaMay7 4 years ago
' Ive turned out fine', ' never did me any harm' oh and whats another one um..? oh yes,'Ive turned out okay' - BULLSHIT. Pure and utter bullshit. When you make a statement such as that you are only strongly indicating that you havent turned out fine,that it did do you harm and well you kind of havent turned out as well as you hoped. God those words from some of you really frustrate me, and yeah, I AM completely %100 agaisnt corporal punishment. All i can say is that its wrong,simple.
JessicaMay7 4 years ago
Spare the rod...
Garveergor 4 years ago
you know what, let me make this very brief and simple. okay: if adults arent allowed to hit adults, if children arent allowed to hit adults and if children arent allowed to hit children then how come children are the ones who are allowed to get hit?where is the justice in that when children are human beings just like adults? smacking is just wrong.hitting, belting,whipping,flogging,beating ect---its all wrong
JessicaMay7 4 years ago
could not agree with you me, its a very hypocritical concept
lepperxxxmessiah 3 years ago
wtf r u takin about bitches
naptuk 4 years ago
Corporal punishment should be brought back.
-For people who just can't keep their hands away from other's staff(example vehicles).
-For bulliers too.
Bikeman1087 4 years ago
kids need there asses beat once and a while! wtf is wrong with you ppl? shit i got hit all the time and i turned out fine, wake up ppl a lil time out isn't going to faze a child!!
XsweetsacraficeX 4 years ago
You want to assault people and you say you turned out fine
gunsdontkillbulletdo 3 years ago 2
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TheWorldpics 2 years ago 3
Get your kids off the war list!! Stop the "No child left behind act"!!!!!
RobinHood1969 4 years ago
Was this done at Marxism?
Youssii 4 years ago
kids don't listen to adults this is kids of all ages if a child runs onto a busy road shouting talking and pleading does not work for kids or parents look at the number of neds and evil kids throwing bricks and stealing cars mugging old ladies
scottishlowoflow 4 years ago
what about all the adults that mug old ladies suppose we'll spank them as well
lepperxxxmessiah 3 years ago 7
although the very rare whack on the back of head or face hass been known to be used in japan. But very rare.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
ugh smacking is a good thing parents don't have as much of an authority figure now they try to be friends with kids THAT is what i call failed parenting violence can be the answer
scottishlowoflow 4 years ago
hitting is never a good thing no matter how hard it may be at times. THere is always a better way. True disipline isnt hitting and dosnt even mean punishment. What about peoples like the lakota navajo or swedes they always have a better way. Now that i think of it bum slapping is pretty much noexsistent in japan as well. Although the very
cuchulain55 4 years ago 2
I'm not saying Corporal Punishment of Young People should be brought back but some kids need to be hit. This is why there's so many evil teenagers walking around. We let them get away with a lot of things.
MARTIANCAVEMAN 4 years ago
bull crap no child or anyone should be hit. There is always always a better way no matter the onsiquence no matter how hard it may be at times. After all what about the navajo or lakota or swedes they never hit thier children but are stillraise them strictly.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
sorry, but thats bullshit. kids hu rnt smacked are less likely to become violent druggies, of 'evil tenagers' as you put it.
Youssii 4 years ago
This man speaks truth. In fact I think there was one guy called norm lee who went out of his way to find a prison where he discovered one person there had not been punished corporally!
MDHmodder 4 years ago
Evil teenagers....what about evil 6 year olds? X_x Becuase I was evil when I was 5 and 7 and stuff bt I'm not evil now <_<
L0LImAnna 4 years ago
adults get away with a lot of outrageous things also, but who disciplines them? If jails and the army and other parts of society do not use corporal punishment why should schools and parents. corporal punishment is used to "modify and correct" the behavior of children, but what's used to correct the behavior of the parents
lepperxxxmessiah 3 years ago 2
The answer to that of course is corporal punishment of adults. Robert Heinlein had it right. A short, sharp shock can be very beneficial when nothing else works.
NCOMUSCLE 3 years ago 3
Fortunately some schools here in Aus are bringing it back.
FreeknNasty 4 years ago
i do not spank my child and i think it is failed parenting to do so. you only strike out of anger and frustration and children learn nothing productive from that.
chantistar 5 years ago 2
I agree with you.
danll5 4 years ago
I don't. I got my ear clipped and my arse slapped and quickly learnt not to repeat the action which caused it. I can understand why it could be claimed by some to be the actions bourne from frustration, but not in all cases. I think that punsihment, of any kind, must be administered with repsect and love - and YES I believe smacking can be. It was with me, and has been with my son. He no longer needs smacked - productive learning
Lisnagunogue 4 years ago
There is something very strange about your logic to me: How on earth is causing someone pain loving? If you loved them so much, why not use something that doesn't involve harm if you can, but is just as effective?
MDHmodder 4 years ago 3
yea well i never did, what do you have to say about that
lepperxxxmessiah 3 years ago 2
oupse I ment to give you a thumbs down, but I clicked at the wrong time.
I was abused as a child, and my mom and dad hit me out of anger, that WAS bad, but not every spanking is out of anger. I will spank my children (when they are old enough to understand) It is only ment to help them grow to be healthy grownups, never to be out of anger.
JenGem 4 years ago
I would advise you to reconsder. It's not necessary and I know as someone who can testify to knowing some great, intelligent, gentle kids raised on the ideas of common (not pop) positive discipline. That's all I'll say.
To me, whether it's a so called "gentle smack" or "abusively hitting with a large object" doesn't make any difference. They are two things that relate in their approach, and that is to harm and to cause fear for obedience.
MDHmodder 4 years ago
i disagree, because, like i said i was hit all the time growing up and i ended up okay.
XsweetsacraficeX 4 years ago
I'm not saying you're insatisfactory, but how can you objectively look at yourself and know you would not be a happier person?
MDHmodder 4 years ago
huh?
tym2112 5 years ago
Ahh.........The UK already was part of that treaty
theredraven 5 years ago