Not reading the comments, and not buying Mr. Holden's gizmo. Perhaps he is not what he used to be. This video shows me nothing but wants me to believe based on Holden's credentials. Wel I don't. Total input minus total output minus waste equals zero. I'm not buying that the input here is sufficient to do anything without being constrained to. If the water is not pressurized, then all it has given us is a 1-meter drop, which is paltry. 4x 4inch pipes at 1 bar and 1 meter is no way 100 KW.
i would like to know if we could buy one for a non profit aquaculture facility? i have tried to find out more info on this new turbine to no avail. thanks jake
thanks joe, t-wheels are great! afterburners are awesome and you are still in the game. why don't we hook up this water generator in series to SOME steam generators and we'd still have some left over for some small air generators. did you notice all the nascar engines using the afterburner suction trick to suck harder through the intake? PIPES!!!!! USAF!!!
@JohnMGilbert No, but reading idiot's posts about government conspiracies, and free energy makes me feel better about myself. I mean how stupid do you have to be to believe that stuff? People who are willfully ignorant make me appreciate my own intelligence.
Do what I did, look all over the net to find anything but a repeat of various hype-sters claims about his "invention", and don't tell me he's afraid of someone stealing it, patent protection is easily obtained in this country. You won't find ANY explanation of principle for it ANYWHERE! That is the very ESSENCE of suspicious!! They claim his invention "amplifies" power, when that is physically impossible. It all smacks of free energy hype, where they seek investment and then flee with the loot.
The hype-sters who are trying to sell you "Joe Holden" have NO
idea what they're talking about. They promote him as some modern "Tesla" who's invented a magical "free energy" machine. The energy available from any head of water is easily calculated, and his device is NEVER explained, NO principle is EVER espoused, so NO examination of his claims can be made, and that's WHY. I'd hate to think he's a crook, likely he's just old & delusional and they're unfairly lining their pockets on his name.
This is whizbang paranoid "free-energy" moronic nonsense. He never shows how it works, he merely seniles around and declares it works.
And Tesla turbine's are unrelated to this. The government couldn't hide a polar bear in a snowstorm.You can't get something for nothing.People have been using river flow for aeons to pump water
up hills and run mills. I don't see him explaining what he's doing.
This producer/interviewer is useless, he knows nothing.
@rstevewarmorycom What about cascading dams? You can tap power all along the way at every set interval until you reach the ocean. Isn't this just a smaller more efficient turbine that can be spaced closer together than dam turbines?
I found an article explaining how you can increase the pressure of the water flow through the pipe by increasing the speed of the water by creating a vortex along the axis of the flow, instead of increasing the head/drop:
He is uses a vortex tube or "compression" tube. This is straight out of Viktor Schauberger's hydropower patent from the 30s. You could use a Tesla Turbine to make the energy, but you still got to use to vortex if you don't want a dam.
clearly a tesla turbine!! tesla turbines can be staged just like this, and the power ratios are within this mans ranges! just look up the tesla turbine news articles! 10 hp for every pound! thats huge!
@stwilegar i doubt it was meant to be from one stream, but utilizing water sources that run near every settlement can prove to be an alternative to huge hydrostations with their dams. plus it can be run paralel to the stream, without altering its flow or blocking it. just a water collector at the begining and then run a cascade of these. i dont know the efficiancy level of this thing per cm3 of water flow.
@doradovista Do some reference research on the Tesla Turbine, you'll see the obvious for yourself. This particular design is for using a penstock laid in the stream up to whatever head you need. The Tesla turbine is the only turbine that would run on all the means of pressure he mentioned. Very old, innovative, tech.
@jib1000 Obviously your ears are plugged or your brain unplugged. This is a small unit, the design can be scaled up to any size. It is a great concept! His credentials obviously speak for their self.
@jib1000 There is no defying any physics laws. It is simply a water source spinning a turbine connected to a generator. It needs pressure of course which will come from water dropping as it flows. There are a lot of rivers with a relatively fast elevation drop in a short distance this would work great on. It is all based on how much drop and how far you need to source the water from, that determines cost effectiveness.
@jib1000 Did you even watch the video all the way through? He explains that the discharge from this turbine can be reused downstream unlike a dam that is once and done.
@jib1000 I agree all dams discharge water. The inventor's point is that There Isn't a Need for a costly dam since this unit uses existing water pressure already inherent in a downstream flow! In reality do you see 10 dams stacked up right next to each other? This turbine seems to directly reuse the discharge of the last unit to make a linear(downstream) stack of turbines. That setup seems to be way more efficient than even a series of dams. (which need an artificial source of pressure to work)
@jib1000 The inventor himself at 3:20 says that the discharge can be picked back in a pipe once a given pressure is built up and run through another turbine. This proves MY point that you didn't watch the video all the way through otherwise you wouldn't be arguing that these can't be used in a line downstream. One final thing, your ad hominem attack on my previous comment (a logical fallacy) makes you a troll. Bye.
@onefish26 The fact that the inventor says something that can't be true doesn't mean i didn't watch the video, it means i understand physics. Saying you have a lack of education isn't an attack its a true statement.
@jib1000 Prove that it won't work with some hard data and show it to us and the inventor. Until you do that running your mouth about how much education I do or do not (which you can't prove as a "true statement" until you've seen my degree or lack of) have isn't relevant.
@onefish26 Hard data? WTF? Why on earth would i need hard data? 5th grade kids are taught this stuff. If this power plant gets its power from water pressure, stacking up a bunch of them together isn't going to get you anything more than one would. How are you not getting this? Which incidentally is why there aren't damns one after another on a lake.
@jib1000 By hard data I mean, do some more research since I obviously don't have a Physics degree like you do. So you can figure out for everyone on here that is confused by this the formulas that show that this doesn't work the way the inventor says it does.
If you take energy out of a system (moving water in this case) you won't have any energy to take out with your line of turbines. Do you really not get this? Its pretty simple.
@jib1000 Huh? Ok! I see where our misunderstanding is! The water must be moving downhill not on a flat and level surface right. So if the water isn't getting it's energy from somewhere, downhill force of course you are correct, it will just puddle up under the turbine. I really think the inventor presumes that the discharge to be reused will be redirected downstream in the form of another pipe. It *can* "get" more energy that way. Isn't that gravity or inertia something like that?
@onefish26 If thats the case we're right back to dams. A single dam can power several states. If these are only effective on a down hill slope then you can only use them where there is a mountain stream. Not very useful for everyday people.
@jib1000 tech people sometimes leave things out, dont hold it against the man. :)
a water tower or water holding device after the first p.plant would create pressure for the 2nd p.plant which would be lower.
as for dams one after the other, they could do this but the first dam already creates enough power ushually. if not they would (i assume) put a larger generator on it. building dam after dam would be very costly. imo.
@terrifiedprojects one thing that should be known about dams is that they greatly impact watershed ecosystems, almost always negatively. My state, Oregon, is powered by the Bonneville Dam on the giant Columbia River. However, this dam causes a lot of strain on the trout & salmon that spawn in the rivers that feed into it every year.
@jib1000 You might not have series of dams where you're from, but in China they do. Last year several countries downstream of the Mekong River in Asia made a formal complaint to China over the severely reduced water levels. Turned out China had 7 dams plus irrigation diverting nearly all the water.
@jib1000 yes that may be true however if we do not start thinking out of the box and stop being so PASSIVE like "what else can we do" as "victims" then how else will we shift the BIGGEST mass extinction the planet has ever seen? talking/thinking about free enrgy is the first step of materializing it!
What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know what a mass extinction is?
There is no first step to "materializing" free energy because free energy doesn't exist.
Free energy is NOT possible.
How about instead of trying to cancel out the laws of physics we just go ahead and figure out how to use solar panels/collectors/satellites etc? Why not get an education before trying to talk about science on youtube?
@jib1000 because most "education/science" in my book = indoctrinated corporate funded mental slavery. anyone using common sense & unplugging themselves from chemicalized food & TV can see the temples in Egypt, Peru, Bolivia, Central America & elsewhere used technology way beyond what the so called civilized world has created. i recommend YOU get a real EXPERIENTIAL education by doing a little globetrotting & pulling your head outta ur arse before exposing ur ignorance on youtube! LMAO
@jib1000 13 homes for the one unit. its inherently decentralized nature is actually a real benefit of the technology. There are also 1000 other arguments for not daming rivers. The hundreds of thousands of homes can now get the electricity and the fisherman can still fish, the farmer can still farm, the ecology still functions beautifully. This tech is the way!
Dont need a dam? I dont see how a river will provide enough pressure to run these things. The water need to be pressurized somehow, I dont see how this its suposed to work.
@to88he... It would have a piped supply from further up a mountainside, The potential water power; 'Head', which is the difference between the height of the water feed at the elevated surface, and the turbine inlet.
Potential Water Energy = Density*Gravity*Head
The higher the head, the more energy available... dont know what its efficiency is, but at best it would be converting 35% of this energy to power... which is pretty damn good seeing as its 'free' energy
Could you post something that addresses how this thing is actually works. I guess if it doesn't need a dam with a head of pressure then it relies on kinetic flow. It sounds like it would need constantly fast flowing rivers to be efficient. It's really hard to get energy from a large slow-moving source. Damming and raceways overcomes that problem.
dude....this is retarded. That little piece of shit could not take the place of a nuclear power plant. I swear @spaceman99 you must be high off of your ass to think that solar power and shit like this could do any more than power a few ultra energy conservative homes. This is halarious though. Love the guys euro accent, makes him seem real authentic. He must have created the atom bomb too
@hydrogravitypower I did look at your engine. As a designer/welder/fabricator I can truly appreciate your effort and ingenuity that went into this project as it is a usable power source in some kind of application. However, bashing Joe Holden's design over this is laughable to me. Don't get me wrong, anything that produces free power from existing sources is great and it has an application somewhere.
main point in dams is flood control and irrigation, Power generation was simply a cost offset maneuver. Smaller streams with enough drop can easily be harnessed. the old water wheel for the flour mills and such used to divert water from one source a fair distance sometimes, to get the needed head to turn the wheel.
. The dam allows more constancy in flow, and less flooding down stream. Flooding not a major problem on most creeks and streams,
You Half a fool.. only in some cases you wont need a damn. Try putting your toy in the grand canyon or any place where the is very little drop in elevation. It wont work at all. Another thing, almost no water source has a constant flow and this is one good reason for a damn. Many creeks dry up dry season but over flow their banks during raining season, another reason its good to use a Damn.
He is making his assumption that you dont need a dam because the further down the stream the more elevation will decrease. The vast majority of flowing water systems that have a large decrease in elevation in relation to the downstream flow of the water are small creeks and streams in highland areas where they originated from. That thing is overkill for probably 90% of the water flow systems that you would "not need a dam" for.
@RandomConcepts d. The irony is, with or without net neutrality; free and open internet access will be a past-time soon. Itll either be restricted by business oligopolies restricting bandwidth to sites that compete against their corporate interests, or itll be censored via the government. Its a lose lose situation no matter how you look at it, and either way the elite have accomplished their agenda. All the legal arguments are basically for show.
Globalists (B. Obama, K. Fudd, G. Brown et al) were run out of Copenhagen. The other delegates were not buying the bollocxs the Globalists were selling! As soon as the Carbon Tax revenues and %s by country were outlined, the plot to raise revenues for the UN / IMF or whomever was to be the recipient of these lovely large sums of money, was revealed to the more cynical observer as another tool to tax us into oblivion (and help fund the development of a global government by demonising carbon)
@meagain2222 they build a dam to create a 'head of water' the flow in equals the flow you can get out. A good head of water is used in the maths to equate full potential return of power. The new thinking i t simply yield the same flow with no 'head' or very little at least.
I find so many videos of people who have invented things that look to be totally amazing.Things you want to learn more about. But then the people there invention all of it is gone. Or the next thing you hear is they are dead. I am sure there are some scam artist out there, but surely not all. Anyone know what happened to this guy ?
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Corporations have been stifling the production of these technologies because they would no longer be able to make money selling you power. Thanks for the Vid
Woundn't a corporations be making money making mini hydro generator. Because only corperations are capable of producing enough of a product at an afortable price.
It is really sad that people refuse to acknowledge the truth about the "FORBIDDEN" sciences. I have been designing machines for 15 years and we have done a lot of things that "bend" the so called Laws (lies) of Physics for custom production machinery.
If anyone doubts this guys invention, just research, Viktor Schauberger, and see what is possible.
Wow, a bunch of clowns sitting at their computers telling the afterburner inventor that the product he built isn't working.
I am just glad the clowns at their computers realize that knowing how to type makes them geniuses.
Tell me, geniuses, how is it that water flowing from a damn can generate megawatts of power, but water flowing down a river cannot? Have you stood on a river bottom lately?
Execs @ Energy companies own millions of shares in their companies, did they get to you 1st?
Good design. I wonder how much the machine would cost and where could it be installed ? in running water without much pressure at all ? is there any commercial production of the system yet ?
This would be more impressive if the thing wasn't sitting on dry land not doing a thing. Show me some measurements. It's hard to believe you can get 100KW worth of water through those small tubes with no dam to force it there.
Why do you need water? Is it because it contains energy by gravity and height (head)? Well, ordinary hydro turbines already have some 92% efficiency. You can not get more energy out of the water than the gravity and height has to deliver. Sorry.
What is unique about this so called technology as compared with so many mini water turbine available today..More Efiicient? Cheaper? lighter? Reliable? Easy to operate & maintain? double the capacity? Instead of using 2 turbines you can use one instead?
LOL they dont even show the turbine as a full frame. Its all just words and a guy in a blue shirt saying he has solved the worlds problems........Sorry but Im calling"BULLSHIT" on this one
He doesn't say he has solved the world's problems. This basic technology(damless hydro) is already in use all around the world right now. The invention seems to be in the turbine design itself by the sounds of this, so it's no wonder it isn't shown.
No disrespect but we cannot do without dams.The amount of acres he says we take out of use is more that multiplied manytimes over by the amout we put into "use" by the irrigation resevoiurs created because of the Dams..This invention isnt for use in gradual drop river passage anyway.This invention needs a radical elevation change so that miles of pipeline arent needed to produce the psi needed to generate the turbine speeds he talking about to generate that kind of energy production.
A bit disturbing that I can not find any papers on this, loads of links showing back to the same "sources", Wiki and from there back here.
Where are the real numbers?
So far we have not managed to get rid of the need of water head nor flow in any hydro project, no matter size. For hundreds of MW to be produced physics demands some Newtons to push the turbines, and those we get as a result of gravity = Mass and Fall = Flow and Pressure.
It would be a gift from heaven if he did solve this!
please joe write it down with some piccies cos methinks a lifetime of warm beer and american burgers has slowed you down a bit, also if you leave this mortal coil your good ideas are gone for good
yes you are so right, cause the bilderbergs are against a sustainable world?!
fuck off, they are trying to save the world, honestly they are the greatest power in the world and they are working toward a more sustainable world, this kind of thing is just what they are after.
It still will require that a large portion of the stream or river be in a pipe for great distances. Dams only run the water in a pipe for a distance it takes to pass through the dam. I don't see this will ever going large scale. I am sure the cost is large scale cost and will never be see in the micro small owner. If making power was cheap everyone would do it. But it is not cheap so only the ones with large amounts of backing will play there.
Does any body know where to buy a small micro hydro system that uses an archamidies screw ? uk.Or a system that does not need a high head of water . I have good flow but not much drop.
so where does the water pressure come from? sounds like the "zero emissions" electric car that you plug in to a wall outlet to charge, the electricity just appears, same with the water pressure! total BS
I dont really care if this guy invented an afterburner, i wouldnt even care if he invented the entire aircraft. But i would like to know how this thing works! And just how does this eliminate the need for dams?
The purpose of a dam is to collect and store water, and since this is a water turbine how can it work without dams?
You did not address the fish theory in this video. Do fish plug up the jets? Are these going to be fish frienly. Will there be bypass tubes for fish that got sucked up in the inlet tubes?
Play with a big siphon sometime. There can be plenty of suction caused by gravity. If there is going to be fast moving / high pressure water for the turbine, there will be suction.
some really good stuff here
thejameskan 3 weeks ago
some really good stuff here
TheSpikeystuff 3 weeks ago
you have some great stuff here
SuperDogbrown 3 weeks ago
This is a great video
simysimss 1 month ago
i think he means 100kw with mulitple units in place
bryncomeaux 1 month ago
Not reading the comments, and not buying Mr. Holden's gizmo. Perhaps he is not what he used to be. This video shows me nothing but wants me to believe based on Holden's credentials. Wel I don't. Total input minus total output minus waste equals zero. I'm not buying that the input here is sufficient to do anything without being constrained to. If the water is not pressurized, then all it has given us is a 1-meter drop, which is paltry. 4x 4inch pipes at 1 bar and 1 meter is no way 100 KW.
haakondahl 2 months ago 3
i would like to know if we could buy one for a non profit aquaculture facility? i have tried to find out more info on this new turbine to no avail. thanks jake
nativejake11 3 months ago
thanks joe, t-wheels are great! afterburners are awesome and you are still in the game. why don't we hook up this water generator in series to SOME steam generators and we'd still have some left over for some small air generators. did you notice all the nascar engines using the afterburner suction trick to suck harder through the intake? PIPES!!!!! USAF!!!
ttimmyown 4 months ago
He talks about the being able to NOT remove good agricultural land from production, by flooding it with dams...
And he talks about cascading the heads to the turbines...
And he talks about EFFICIENT use of the given water pressure....
The ONLY benefit dams provide is a continuous supply of water in areas of widely fluctuating seasonal rains - for drinking, irrigation and for power.
The circumstances, costs, requirements and other factors dictate the real outcomes - all things considered.
callmeshane303 5 months ago 3
where can I buy one of these units?(assuming it does what it says it does).
charronfamilyconnect 5 months ago
Careful Joe. Inventers who offer free power tend to commit suiside! At least that's what the coroner is told to report!
JohnMGilbert 6 months ago
@JohnMGilbert Moron.
jib1000 5 months ago
@jib1000 Moron? Is that the best you can do? Does saying that make you feel better about yourself?
JohnMGilbert 5 months ago
@JohnMGilbert No, but reading idiot's posts about government conspiracies, and free energy makes me feel better about myself. I mean how stupid do you have to be to believe that stuff? People who are willfully ignorant make me appreciate my own intelligence.
jib1000 5 months ago
his mind are willing but his body don't.... great inventor indeed... salute!
mindfreak001009 6 months ago
Thank you Joe. i am going to try one for a 50 kw. generator.
BOMBOVA 6 months ago
Do what I did, look all over the net to find anything but a repeat of various hype-sters claims about his "invention", and don't tell me he's afraid of someone stealing it, patent protection is easily obtained in this country. You won't find ANY explanation of principle for it ANYWHERE! That is the very ESSENCE of suspicious!! They claim his invention "amplifies" power, when that is physically impossible. It all smacks of free energy hype, where they seek investment and then flee with the loot.
rstevewarmorycom 6 months ago
The hype-sters who are trying to sell you "Joe Holden" have NO
idea what they're talking about. They promote him as some modern "Tesla" who's invented a magical "free energy" machine. The energy available from any head of water is easily calculated, and his device is NEVER explained, NO principle is EVER espoused, so NO examination of his claims can be made, and that's WHY. I'd hate to think he's a crook, likely he's just old & delusional and they're unfairly lining their pockets on his name.
rstevewarmorycom 6 months ago
Should've held an umbrella for Mr Holden.
BahoUtot 7 months ago
This is whizbang paranoid "free-energy" moronic nonsense. He never shows how it works, he merely seniles around and declares it works.
And Tesla turbine's are unrelated to this. The government couldn't hide a polar bear in a snowstorm.You can't get something for nothing.People have been using river flow for aeons to pump water
up hills and run mills. I don't see him explaining what he's doing.
This producer/interviewer is useless, he knows nothing.
rstevewarmorycom 7 months ago
@rstevewarmorycom What about cascading dams? You can tap power all along the way at every set interval until you reach the ocean. Isn't this just a smaller more efficient turbine that can be spaced closer together than dam turbines?
cloubserful 6 months ago
Joe Holden just proved that Tesla was the greatest engineer and also that the government is hiding all this.
Topazman12 7 months ago
I'm pretty sure that's actually the engine out of the African Queen
gcmc2 8 months ago
how much will it cost for us to purchase the machine?
ogielami 9 months ago
Its a tesla turbine!
hrflikk 9 months ago
I found an article explaining how you can increase the pressure of the water flow through the pipe by increasing the speed of the water by creating a vortex along the axis of the flow, instead of increasing the head/drop:
MegaHersheykisses 9 months ago
does it really works
morakot101 9 months ago
but you dont need a damn .....good for those people inland
bearpatch626 10 months ago
I see you have a large unit in this video! 8P
smellycatpoop 10 months ago
He is uses a vortex tube or "compression" tube. This is straight out of Viktor Schauberger's hydropower patent from the 30s. You could use a Tesla Turbine to make the energy, but you still got to use to vortex if you don't want a dam.
cletusdingdong 10 months ago
people are not getting the message , you still going to need the dam but much much small ! very simple ! very smart guy !
saknk1 11 months ago
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lslavychecker 1 year ago
clearly a tesla turbine!! tesla turbines can be staged just like this, and the power ratios are within this mans ranges! just look up the tesla turbine news articles! 10 hp for every pound! thats huge!
boxa888 1 year ago
@boxa888 Tesla turbines are not very efficient. Thats why no one uses them.
jib1000 1 year ago
Just give a damn..
Thetrutv 1 year ago
0:40 "these aren't the droids you're looking for"
iliteritmonkey 1 year ago
100 megawatts from a stream? I doubt it....
stwilegar 1 year ago
@stwilegar i doubt it was meant to be from one stream, but utilizing water sources that run near every settlement can prove to be an alternative to huge hydrostations with their dams. plus it can be run paralel to the stream, without altering its flow or blocking it. just a water collector at the begining and then run a cascade of these. i dont know the efficiancy level of this thing per cm3 of water flow.
tbilisicentral 1 year ago
@stwilegar How about Hoover dam? It is a stream with turbines.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
damn the dam! lol
trapingman 1 year ago
How does it works?
Maverick8898 1 year ago
He did not fully invent this contraption. Its based upon Tesla Turbine technology.
Hudsonated 1 year ago 8
@Hudsonated - Where did you find the reference to using Tesla turbines?
doradovista 1 year ago
@doradovista Do some reference research on the Tesla Turbine, you'll see the obvious for yourself. This particular design is for using a penstock laid in the stream up to whatever head you need. The Tesla turbine is the only turbine that would run on all the means of pressure he mentioned. Very old, innovative, tech.
Hudsonated 1 year ago
@Hudsonated But he's actually putting it to use ;)
shardsofsteel 11 months ago
@Hudsonated Noone fully invents anything..
ash2 9 months ago
@Hudsonated
U jelly?
Ozarkorganicshiitake 7 months ago
It will power 13 homes. You don't need a dam??? Correct me if i'm wrong but don't some dams power hundreds of thousands of homes???
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 Obviously your ears are plugged or your brain unplugged. This is a small unit, the design can be scaled up to any size. It is a great concept! His credentials obviously speak for their self.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
@Infinitevoyager Oh they do huh? So working for rolls royce means you can defy the laws of physics?
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 There is no defying any physics laws. It is simply a water source spinning a turbine connected to a generator. It needs pressure of course which will come from water dropping as it flows. There are a lot of rivers with a relatively fast elevation drop in a short distance this would work great on. It is all based on how much drop and how far you need to source the water from, that determines cost effectiveness.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
@jib1000 Did you even watch the video all the way through? He explains that the discharge from this turbine can be reused downstream unlike a dam that is once and done.
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 On what planet do damns not discharge water?
If a damn discharges water and it flows downstream to another damn, thats reuse isn't it?
DERP
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 I agree all dams discharge water. The inventor's point is that There Isn't a Need for a costly dam since this unit uses existing water pressure already inherent in a downstream flow! In reality do you see 10 dams stacked up right next to each other? This turbine seems to directly reuse the discharge of the last unit to make a linear(downstream) stack of turbines. That setup seems to be way more efficient than even a series of dams. (which need an artificial source of pressure to work)
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 The fact that you think a linear stack of turbines would do any good only proves your lack of physics education.
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 The inventor himself at 3:20 says that the discharge can be picked back in a pipe once a given pressure is built up and run through another turbine. This proves MY point that you didn't watch the video all the way through otherwise you wouldn't be arguing that these can't be used in a line downstream. One final thing, your ad hominem attack on my previous comment (a logical fallacy) makes you a troll. Bye.
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 The fact that the inventor says something that can't be true doesn't mean i didn't watch the video, it means i understand physics. Saying you have a lack of education isn't an attack its a true statement.
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 Prove that it won't work with some hard data and show it to us and the inventor. Until you do that running your mouth about how much education I do or do not (which you can't prove as a "true statement" until you've seen my degree or lack of) have isn't relevant.
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 Hard data? WTF? Why on earth would i need hard data? 5th grade kids are taught this stuff. If this power plant gets its power from water pressure, stacking up a bunch of them together isn't going to get you anything more than one would. How are you not getting this? Which incidentally is why there aren't damns one after another on a lake.
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 By hard data I mean, do some more research since I obviously don't have a Physics degree like you do. So you can figure out for everyone on here that is confused by this the formulas that show that this doesn't work the way the inventor says it does.
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 LOL
Wow that was a good chuckle.
If you take energy out of a system (moving water in this case) you won't have any energy to take out with your line of turbines. Do you really not get this? Its pretty simple.
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 Huh? Ok! I see where our misunderstanding is! The water must be moving downhill not on a flat and level surface right. So if the water isn't getting it's energy from somewhere, downhill force of course you are correct, it will just puddle up under the turbine. I really think the inventor presumes that the discharge to be reused will be redirected downstream in the form of another pipe. It *can* "get" more energy that way. Isn't that gravity or inertia something like that?
onefish26 1 year ago
@onefish26 If thats the case we're right back to dams. A single dam can power several states. If these are only effective on a down hill slope then you can only use them where there is a mountain stream. Not very useful for everyday people.
jib1000 1 year ago
@jib1000 tech people sometimes leave things out, dont hold it against the man. :)
a water tower or water holding device after the first p.plant would create pressure for the 2nd p.plant which would be lower.
as for dams one after the other, they could do this but the first dam already creates enough power ushually. if not they would (i assume) put a larger generator on it. building dam after dam would be very costly. imo.
terrifiedprojects 1 year ago
@terrifiedprojects Any energy gained by this device would be less than the amount it would take to fill a water tower.
jib1000 1 year ago
@terrifiedprojects one thing that should be known about dams is that they greatly impact watershed ecosystems, almost always negatively. My state, Oregon, is powered by the Bonneville Dam on the giant Columbia River. However, this dam causes a lot of strain on the trout & salmon that spawn in the rivers that feed into it every year.
cripin2021 11 months ago
@jib1000 You might not have series of dams where you're from, but in China they do. Last year several countries downstream of the Mekong River in Asia made a formal complaint to China over the severely reduced water levels. Turned out China had 7 dams plus irrigation diverting nearly all the water.
djanarak 9 months ago
@jib1000 not that it matters compared to 1000's but he said 30 not 13
seume 10 months ago
@seume LOL you're right he did. True it isn't really a big difference but i did hear him wrong.
jib1000 10 months ago
@jib1000 please check out the disadvantages of large dams from the internet pea brain
nobody9698 9 months ago
@nobody9698 As opposed to the disadvantages of millions of these things?
jib1000 9 months ago
@jib1000 Compare the size of this to a damn....if we have enough of these to cover the same space a damn does then you do the math big boy.
shmigglemichiggins 7 months ago
@shmigglemichiggins The math would show that you could power the same amount of homes with a dam as you would with a "dam's worth" of these.
Are you stupid?
jib1000 7 months ago
@jib1000 Wrong.
shmigglemichiggins 7 months ago
@shmigglemichiggins Actually no, did you flunk out of physics?
jib1000 7 months ago
@jib1000 yes that may be true however if we do not start thinking out of the box and stop being so PASSIVE like "what else can we do" as "victims" then how else will we shift the BIGGEST mass extinction the planet has ever seen? talking/thinking about free enrgy is the first step of materializing it!
certifiedhealthnut 5 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut "the BIGGEST mass extinction the planet has ever seen"
What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know what a mass extinction is?
There is no first step to "materializing" free energy because free energy doesn't exist.
Free energy is NOT possible.
How about instead of trying to cancel out the laws of physics we just go ahead and figure out how to use solar panels/collectors/satellites etc? Why not get an education before trying to talk about science on youtube?
jib1000 5 months ago
@jib1000 because most "education/science" in my book = indoctrinated corporate funded mental slavery. anyone using common sense & unplugging themselves from chemicalized food & TV can see the temples in Egypt, Peru, Bolivia, Central America & elsewhere used technology way beyond what the so called civilized world has created. i recommend YOU get a real EXPERIENTIAL education by doing a little globetrotting & pulling your head outta ur arse before exposing ur ignorance on youtube! LMAO
certifiedhealthnut 5 months ago
@jib1000 13 homes for the one unit. its inherently decentralized nature is actually a real benefit of the technology. There are also 1000 other arguments for not daming rivers. The hundreds of thousands of homes can now get the electricity and the fisherman can still fish, the farmer can still farm, the ecology still functions beautifully. This tech is the way!
cletusdingdong 4 months ago
I will be your dam guide, take all the dam photos you want . .
Johnnylofat 1 year ago
Dont need a dam? I dont see how a river will provide enough pressure to run these things. The water need to be pressurized somehow, I dont see how this its suposed to work.
to88he 1 year ago
@to88he... It would have a piped supply from further up a mountainside, The potential water power; 'Head', which is the difference between the height of the water feed at the elevated surface, and the turbine inlet.
Potential Water Energy = Density*Gravity*Head
The higher the head, the more energy available... dont know what its efficiency is, but at best it would be converting 35% of this energy to power... which is pretty damn good seeing as its 'free' energy
kingtercel 1 year ago
this is the worst video on YT
it is just a lot of wind and noise
2020zal 1 year ago
Could you post something that addresses how this thing is actually works. I guess if it doesn't need a dam with a head of pressure then it relies on kinetic flow. It sounds like it would need constantly fast flowing rivers to be efficient. It's really hard to get energy from a large slow-moving source. Damming and raceways overcomes that problem.
tjsbbi 1 year ago
dude....this is retarded. That little piece of shit could not take the place of a nuclear power plant. I swear @spaceman99 you must be high off of your ass to think that solar power and shit like this could do any more than power a few ultra energy conservative homes. This is halarious though. Love the guys euro accent, makes him seem real authentic. He must have created the atom bomb too
playermodelz 1 year ago
reciprocating water displacement gravity engine is the perfect machine
hydrogravitypower 1 year ago
see hydrogravitypower on utube
hydrogravitypower 1 year ago
@hydrogravitypower I did look at your engine. As a designer/welder/fabricator I can truly appreciate your effort and ingenuity that went into this project as it is a usable power source in some kind of application. However, bashing Joe Holden's design over this is laughable to me. Don't get me wrong, anything that produces free power from existing sources is great and it has an application somewhere.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
Where is it available
allysonand 1 year ago
main point in dams is flood control and irrigation, Power generation was simply a cost offset maneuver. Smaller streams with enough drop can easily be harnessed. the old water wheel for the flour mills and such used to divert water from one source a fair distance sometimes, to get the needed head to turn the wheel.
. The dam allows more constancy in flow, and less flooding down stream. Flooding not a major problem on most creeks and streams,
KboiDunkelzahn 1 year ago
Whats the stupidly loud pumping soundtrack for spaceman99 maybe rename you to spacedout99!
blackmerriah 1 year ago
hey this is nickholden my dads name is joe holden married to audrey holden i live in wasilla alaska do u now us?
nickholden0 1 year ago
You Half a fool.. only in some cases you wont need a damn. Try putting your toy in the grand canyon or any place where the is very little drop in elevation. It wont work at all. Another thing, almost no water source has a constant flow and this is one good reason for a damn. Many creeks dry up dry season but over flow their banks during raining season, another reason its good to use a Damn.
Wildatheart73 1 year ago
@Wildatheart73 Well here's a better Idea. move out of the flood zones. problem solved, no more dams needed.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
He is making his assumption that you dont need a dam because the further down the stream the more elevation will decrease. The vast majority of flowing water systems that have a large decrease in elevation in relation to the downstream flow of the water are small creeks and streams in highland areas where they originated from. That thing is overkill for probably 90% of the water flow systems that you would "not need a dam" for.
csiegert83 1 year ago
@RandomConcepts d. The irony is, with or without net neutrality; free and open internet access will be a past-time soon. Itll either be restricted by business oligopolies restricting bandwidth to sites that compete against their corporate interests, or itll be censored via the government. Its a lose lose situation no matter how you look at it, and either way the elite have accomplished their agenda. All the legal arguments are basically for show.
louis12346 1 year ago
this was quite difficult to watch - youtube is not really the place for Joe
ukpm 1 year ago
at least he THINK and DO SOMETHING . . .
bettoUAJY 1 year ago
how does a man who invented the after-burner claim eco-credentials. Or has he changed from Saul to Paul?
cbSeabee 1 year ago
this guy invented afterburners and you are telling him about power=headxflow. you are a dipshit zoe marks
grainneomahony 1 year ago
This turbine still requires a head of water to operate. In really simple terms:
power = head x flow
So it is not clear how this device is going to deliver without a head of water.
Still need dams old fellow.
ZoeMarks 1 year ago
So could you put this on small stream anywhere? How big a stream would you need?
KnightsbridgeAce 2 years ago
water + hydroelectricity = free hydrogen gas
hotcuts6064 2 years ago
Globalists (B. Obama, K. Fudd, G. Brown et al) were run out of Copenhagen. The other delegates were not buying the bollocxs the Globalists were selling! As soon as the Carbon Tax revenues and %s by country were outlined, the plot to raise revenues for the UN / IMF or whomever was to be the recipient of these lovely large sums of money, was revealed to the more cynical observer as another tool to tax us into oblivion (and help fund the development of a global government by demonising carbon)
louis12346 2 years ago
Oh the only reason dams are built
is to store enough water to even
out flow seasonally.
meagain2222 2 years ago
@meagain2222 they build a dam to create a 'head of water' the flow in equals the flow you can get out. A good head of water is used in the maths to equate full potential return of power. The new thinking i t simply yield the same flow with no 'head' or very little at least.
joferg70 1 year ago
he is making it sound like its something
new and efficient.Truth be told the common
pelton wheel is 90% plus efficient and only needs the water supply and your away.
They can and have been built in the 10 watt
up to megawatt range.
meagain2222 2 years ago
Can anyone send me PM with plans of wind turbines made from car alternators?? or maybe some good links to some websites??
gdjohny 2 years ago
my good friend google knows all about that stuff
steveman223 2 years ago
Sounds like bs
ismasamov55 2 years ago
I find so many videos of people who have invented things that look to be totally amazing.Things you want to learn more about. But then the people there invention all of it is gone. Or the next thing you hear is they are dead. I am sure there are some scam artist out there, but surely not all. Anyone know what happened to this guy ?
fred30680 2 years ago
OK, so who is going to build one and show it working ? Looks like it might only be able to run on mountain streams ?
nicbordeaux 2 years ago
albert einstighn was often thought to be stupid for ignoring the so called "laws" of physics but he still proved him self
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rocketsredglare101 2 years ago
Corporations have been stifling the production of these technologies because they would no longer be able to make money selling you power. Thanks for the Vid
NewAmericaNow 2 years ago
Woundn't a corporations be making money making mini hydro generator. Because only corperations are capable of producing enough of a product at an afortable price.
simontimon2 2 years ago
Who would be making more, the people who sell you power for a lifetime or someone who sells you a generator once?
NewAmericaNow 2 years ago
The free market
Where there's a demand the private sectors supplies it.
simontimon2 2 years ago
how much the unit that is is showing us the price please
irishkeebler 2 years ago
We don't need a damn dam!
sheik480 2 years ago
It is really sad that people refuse to acknowledge the truth about the "FORBIDDEN" sciences. I have been designing machines for 15 years and we have done a lot of things that "bend" the so called Laws (lies) of Physics for custom production machinery.
If anyone doubts this guys invention, just research, Viktor Schauberger, and see what is possible.
MRDEECYPHER 2 years ago
@MRDEECYPHER
You talk shit.
If you had done as you claim your name would be in 72 point Bold across the front of every scientific journal in the world.
There's only one type more stupid than a shit dribbler, and that is a dribbler who expects others to believe them.
ozzirt 1 year ago
Well if it does work, one thing is sure, big corporations and government will take control of it and sock us consumers any way.
andjusticeforall2010 2 years ago
Wow, a bunch of clowns sitting at their computers telling the afterburner inventor that the product he built isn't working.
I am just glad the clowns at their computers realize that knowing how to type makes them geniuses.
Tell me, geniuses, how is it that water flowing from a damn can generate megawatts of power, but water flowing down a river cannot? Have you stood on a river bottom lately?
Execs @ Energy companies own millions of shares in their companies, did they get to you 1st?
CI9TK 2 years ago
Good design. I wonder how much the machine would cost and where could it be installed ? in running water without much pressure at all ? is there any commercial production of the system yet ?
gandalfthegrey41 2 years ago
amazing good work mr holden
willdick999999 2 years ago
This would be more impressive if the thing wasn't sitting on dry land not doing a thing. Show me some measurements. It's hard to believe you can get 100KW worth of water through those small tubes with no dam to force it there.
sjh7132 2 years ago
its hard to believe right? then don't!
comanchehotspot 2 years ago
Why do you need water? Is it because it contains energy by gravity and height (head)? Well, ordinary hydro turbines already have some 92% efficiency. You can not get more energy out of the water than the gravity and height has to deliver. Sorry.
tofo2 2 years ago
What is unique about this so called technology as compared with so many mini water turbine available today..More Efiicient? Cheaper? lighter? Reliable? Easy to operate & maintain? double the capacity? Instead of using 2 turbines you can use one instead?
absharif53 2 years ago
call it whatever you want you mean to tell me a small creek couldnt run a turbine?
commando7144 2 years ago
never work
32937isready 2 years ago
I wonder if he's ever visited Area 51?
early1900s 2 years ago
dedicated man. Fantastic to watch.
B0ge 2 years ago
it's a mystery! yeah jet plane
mrata333 2 years ago
LOL they dont even show the turbine as a full frame. Its all just words and a guy in a blue shirt saying he has solved the worlds problems........Sorry but Im calling"BULLSHIT" on this one
anthony9thompson 2 years ago
He doesn't say he has solved the world's problems. This basic technology(damless hydro) is already in use all around the world right now. The invention seems to be in the turbine design itself by the sounds of this, so it's no wonder it isn't shown.
mongrellius 2 years ago
I dont think its too much to show a pic of at least the outside of the turbine. This clip is all hot air with no facts
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electricrobot 2 years ago
Yes I watched and he sure does lose alian signal, great call.
MieneTube 2 years ago
No disrespect but we cannot do without dams.The amount of acres he says we take out of use is more that multiplied manytimes over by the amout we put into "use" by the irrigation resevoiurs created because of the Dams..This invention isnt for use in gradual drop river passage anyway.This invention needs a radical elevation change so that miles of pipeline arent needed to produce the psi needed to generate the turbine speeds he talking about to generate that kind of energy production.
mastersduhgree 2 years ago
This guy is controlled by aliens. Between :52 and :54 he loses signal.
PatrikMacGoohan 2 years ago
well, i bet they wont do it becasue the power companies make too much money.
just like a senator BANNED further desert solar research until they know more about what it does to the local wildlife. BS.
eyesoverskies 2 years ago
I didn't know one senator had that much power...
mongrellius 2 years ago
A bit disturbing that I can not find any papers on this, loads of links showing back to the same "sources", Wiki and from there back here.
Where are the real numbers?
So far we have not managed to get rid of the need of water head nor flow in any hydro project, no matter size. For hundreds of MW to be produced physics demands some Newtons to push the turbines, and those we get as a result of gravity = Mass and Fall = Flow and Pressure.
It would be a gift from heaven if he did solve this!
ronprivat 2 years ago
dont talk about it Joe
be about it .
demonstrate the bloody thing!!!!!
prove it works
show some kva output.
johnnecron 2 years ago 23
@johnnecron be about it? whats that even saposed to mean?
TheNotsolucky7 1 year ago
VEJA! GERADOR EÓLICO, HIDRÁULICA
inventorisac 2 years ago
please joe write it down with some piccies cos methinks a lifetime of warm beer and american burgers has slowed you down a bit, also if you leave this mortal coil your good ideas are gone for good
acefreaky 2 years ago
yeah he should have stayed at rolls royce
ide bet theres someone on youtube that felt like kharmingg him for making them feel inadequet for there experiments
bilderburg yeah he may be missing
283inc 2 years ago
yikes... is this guy still alive? buildergers
will strike again! what a shame.............
captainbob4u 2 years ago
yes you are so right, cause the bilderbergs are against a sustainable world?!
fuck off, they are trying to save the world, honestly they are the greatest power in the world and they are working toward a more sustainable world, this kind of thing is just what they are after.
JAM1SN 2 years ago
He should have up date this video it already one year old what stage is he in now?
Would like to see his advancement and God Bless him if he can produce it.
aprimeg 2 years ago
would love to see it in action to be more convince
86rockyjt 2 years ago
This would be effective in mountain streams and steep valleys could with a long pipe make for a little powerhouse
Blondets1 2 years ago
It still will require that a large portion of the stream or river be in a pipe for great distances. Dams only run the water in a pipe for a distance it takes to pass through the dam. I don't see this will ever going large scale. I am sure the cost is large scale cost and will never be see in the micro small owner. If making power was cheap everyone would do it. But it is not cheap so only the ones with large amounts of backing will play there.
Trippy518 2 years ago
Making power for one person is actually not expensive. My headache is that too few are making their own power :)
ronprivat 2 years ago
This looks like it is alien UFO technology.
BeanMeister22 2 years ago
Does any body know where to buy a small micro hydro system that uses an archamidies screw ? uk.Or a system that does not need a high head of water . I have good flow but not much drop.
davidsmallplanet 3 years ago
would anyone know where to purchase one if any one finds out either post it on here or send me a message
legalizeitnow09 3 years ago
A rubbish video!!
It provided no information on how it works.
Russ0000 3 years ago
What type of feed pressure/water flow rate is required? Anyone know?
12TonyT 3 years ago
so where does the water pressure come from? sounds like the "zero emissions" electric car that you plug in to a wall outlet to charge, the electricity just appears, same with the water pressure! total BS
pumkinvine 3 years ago
I dont really care if this guy invented an afterburner, i wouldnt even care if he invented the entire aircraft. But i would like to know how this thing works! And just how does this eliminate the need for dams?
The purpose of a dam is to collect and store water, and since this is a water turbine how can it work without dams?
VanDeGraaff 3 years ago
Yeah Tesla's influence ... guy is cool
Anomiman 3 years ago
I have a customer that is looking for a solar concentrator system and I would like to use your turbine please contact me
svesolar 3 years ago
You did not address the fish theory in this video. Do fish plug up the jets? Are these going to be fish frienly. Will there be bypass tubes for fish that got sucked up in the inlet tubes?
Trippy518 3 years ago
The inlet would have a fish proof screen on it, and there wouldn't be any suction on the inlet, just gravity.
Way more fish friendly than a dam, especially where fish need to go upstream to spawn.
scrapperito 3 years ago
Play with a big siphon sometime. There can be plenty of suction caused by gravity. If there is going to be fast moving / high pressure water for the turbine, there will be suction.
sjh7132 2 years ago
I have a heliostat prototype which concentrate light to one stationary focal point which may run your turbine.
svesolar 3 years ago