reforms of catholic church were needed at vatican 2. such as , ending the belief in the "blood libel" of the jews, the false teaching of the killing of simon ot trent by jews to get his blood, the support of facsists , etc. as Jesus told Peter." Get behing me SATAN, for your concerned with the things of MAN, not of GOD
May God bless His Carthusian servants for their incredible selflessness, devotion, service, prayer and loyalty. May they be an example to us all. May God protect his blessed and most humble servants always.
God bless you for posting this video, es war ausgezeichnet, vielen dank!
That is indeed true. Also the German Charterhouse has no lack of young men testing their Carthusian vocation. Looking at other orders, the Carthusian should not worry too much about "growing old" and "dying out" - yet we talk here of one of the smallest orders of Roman-Catholic Church.
The Carthusians are an oder of the "Catholic" Church, NOT the "Roman" Catholic Church. None of the 16 documents of Vatican II refer to the "Roman" Catholic Church. It is a derogatory appellation mainly used by Protestants who want to insist they too are "Catholic." Let them be, but it is not their prerogative to label Catholics as "Roman" Catholics simply because they wish to be included.
If other Orders are suffering it's because they modernized when the Carthusians did not. The Church has modernized since Vatican II, and I believe that it's no coincidence that people are losing the faith.
@Northbound89 If the Church hadn't changed, more people had lost their faith. It's nothing about modernisation or not, it's about applying the faith to a changed environment. That traditional orders or groups don't lack offspring, is due to the general crisis of the Church being torn between her (misunderstood) past and a general disorientation in the variety of postmodern world.
@Northbound89 I said that reforms in general were necessary and still are necessary. Since times change and people change, and faith is shaped by people and the time they live in. It's useless to deny that. Many reforms Vatican II did, were necessary. Some weren't. And others Vatican II bishops didn't dare to touch, but it would've been better if they had.
The Church should not have to change for the people, the people should change for the Church and Christ their Saviour. I find it shocking because the religion changed so much because of VII, that some people who lived pre-VII, if being honest, believe it is almost a new religion. It's also ridiculous how indifferent most Catholics are to religion nowadays. Most Catholics are not even Catholic and you tried to tell me that the reforms made helped prevent more people from losing their faith!
Well I was born after Vatican II, but I probably would have opposed the reforms made. However, it is perilous to split from the Bishop of Rome. And because the Church carried out the reforms, it must have been the will of God. Was it not the last recognized pope, by traditional Catholics, Pope Pius XII who espoused Papal infallibility? Papal Infallibility and sedevacantism are irreconcilable. God works actively through the Church, even during Vatican II.
Though there are so few monks and nuns throughout the world, this should not be confused with consecrated friars and sisters. Of them, there are many. The difference is they aren't cloistered.
Awesome vid thank you! I saw Into Great Silence at one of my RCIA group meeings and I completely fell in love with the monks and their way of life. This is amazing and I like the part with the nuns. Where did those nuns come from?
No, it's taken from the movie "Into Great Silence". Probably the monks of Parkminster have recorded the same chants for their website (as the liturgy and the Divine Office is the same), but these chants in my video are recorded in La Grande Chartreuse.
reforms of catholic church were needed at vatican 2. such as , ending the belief in the "blood libel" of the jews, the false teaching of the killing of simon ot trent by jews to get his blood, the support of facsists , etc. as Jesus told Peter." Get behing me SATAN, for your concerned with the things of MAN, not of GOD
Civitatuccillo 1 year ago
Long live Chartusian Order. This world needs their prayers now more than ever.
Thank you for the video.
Yodasstuff 1 year ago
it bugs me that there has never been a carthusian saint in the church
cdphatty 2 years ago
@cdphatty Hugh of Lincoln is a Carthusian saint
aspiringlich 5 months ago
From long time ago, I admire Chartusians monks. His provokation to the matterial world is necessary for the human kind.
lekunberriko1 2 years ago
May God bless His Carthusian servants for their incredible selflessness, devotion, service, prayer and loyalty. May they be an example to us all. May God protect his blessed and most humble servants always.
God bless you for posting this video, es war ausgezeichnet, vielen dank!
Pax Christi †
davidpetercantus 2 years ago
This Order will flourish. Parkminster is doing fine. I understand the other Charterhouses are OK also.
Trefethan 2 years ago 2
That is indeed true. Also the German Charterhouse has no lack of young men testing their Carthusian vocation. Looking at other orders, the Carthusian should not worry too much about "growing old" and "dying out" - yet we talk here of one of the smallest orders of Roman-Catholic Church.
God bless you!
27grego 2 years ago 3
@27grego
The Carthusians are an oder of the "Catholic" Church, NOT the "Roman" Catholic Church. None of the 16 documents of Vatican II refer to the "Roman" Catholic Church. It is a derogatory appellation mainly used by Protestants who want to insist they too are "Catholic." Let them be, but it is not their prerogative to label Catholics as "Roman" Catholics simply because they wish to be included.
tommerrigan1956 2 years ago
@27grego
If other Orders are suffering it's because they modernized when the Carthusians did not. The Church has modernized since Vatican II, and I believe that it's no coincidence that people are losing the faith.
Northbound89 1 year ago
@Northbound89 If the Church hadn't changed, more people had lost their faith. It's nothing about modernisation or not, it's about applying the faith to a changed environment. That traditional orders or groups don't lack offspring, is due to the general crisis of the Church being torn between her (misunderstood) past and a general disorientation in the variety of postmodern world.
vdmaart 1 year ago
@vdmaart
Are you saying the reforms made by Vatican II were necessary?
Northbound89 1 year ago
@Northbound89 I said that reforms in general were necessary and still are necessary. Since times change and people change, and faith is shaped by people and the time they live in. It's useless to deny that. Many reforms Vatican II did, were necessary. Some weren't. And others Vatican II bishops didn't dare to touch, but it would've been better if they had.
vdmaart 1 year ago
The Church should not have to change for the people, the people should change for the Church and Christ their Saviour. I find it shocking because the religion changed so much because of VII, that some people who lived pre-VII, if being honest, believe it is almost a new religion. It's also ridiculous how indifferent most Catholics are to religion nowadays. Most Catholics are not even Catholic and you tried to tell me that the reforms made helped prevent more people from losing their faith!
Northbound89 1 year ago
@Northbound89
Well I was born after Vatican II, but I probably would have opposed the reforms made. However, it is perilous to split from the Bishop of Rome. And because the Church carried out the reforms, it must have been the will of God. Was it not the last recognized pope, by traditional Catholics, Pope Pius XII who espoused Papal infallibility? Papal Infallibility and sedevacantism are irreconcilable. God works actively through the Church, even during Vatican II.
oreillyfan360 1 year ago
@oreillyfan360
The traditional Catholics as you call them would tell you that, according to traditional Catholic teaching, heretics cannot be Pope.
Northbound89 1 year ago
Thanks be to God! May the Carthusian Order always flourish in the service of our Father in Heaven.
Pax Christi †
davidpetercantus 2 years ago
Your English is excellent; vielen dank fur das videopost.
chevalier3 2 years ago
Though there are so few monks and nuns throughout the world, this should not be confused with consecrated friars and sisters. Of them, there are many. The difference is they aren't cloistered.
Good video.
mauvrian 3 years ago
wonderful!
Catholiques 3 years ago
Awesome vid thank you! I saw Into Great Silence at one of my RCIA group meeings and I completely fell in love with the monks and their way of life. This is amazing and I like the part with the nuns. Where did those nuns come from?
tornwoman 3 years ago 2
The music is from the site of Parkminster monastery isn't it?
indecjusz 3 years ago
No, it's taken from the movie "Into Great Silence". Probably the monks of Parkminster have recorded the same chants for their website (as the liturgy and the Divine Office is the same), but these chants in my video are recorded in La Grande Chartreuse.
vdmaart 3 years ago
Great video. I really respect these monks and nuns. Even though there are few of them but they are the pillars of our church. Thank you for posting.
xanh01 3 years ago
Thank you for this wonderful film The Carthusians are truly blessed. May God keep them safe.
water3three 3 years ago 4