Really interested in the vids man, i turn 17 next week and i think i'm going to get into this a little bit with my dad when he gets back from overseas, how easy do you think it would be to make a forge?
i'm in the process of getting into blacksmithing and i have an anvil, a TON of steel, about twenty hammers, a blower, and a brake drum for a small brake drum forge but i can't seem to find any 2" threaded black iron pipe or coal! would anybody know where i could get some?
hey, i know it might be a bit of an expense.. but wouldn't a decent respirator mask along with good room ventilation prevent any heavy metal poisoning?
My land is full of scrap, I don't want to sell it for cruddy money that will be lost to bills and taxes. I want to turn into useful durable old fashioned tools, Like the old fantastic American made hoes, pickaxe, double bladed axes, rakes and more! I'm sick of chinese cheaply made cruddy so called `tools that breaks in couple uses. Well my point is, have you made some big stuff like that? oh as well as some really strong-sharp swords?
@TravelerWhereof have not made any heavy swords......YET!!! I would want to have a proper power hammer to make garden tools. it's just too much work to make by hand
I am no expert, but I believe the generic term for the KAOWOOL material you are using is just Stone Wool, or Rock Wool. It has that name because it is a natural stone or rock material that is blown into strands (silica if I am not mistaken). It goes by various brand names, it is used in residential insulation in some applications (though fiberglass is much more popular). Just do a search for 'rockwool insulation' and you will find all the various different types.
i dont get it..he made a propane forge then at the end he said "but propane is expensive go with coal" why didnt he just show us how to make a coal forge?
how long would a regular size propane tank last( one u would use for a grill or something) im trying to figure out if i want to make a propane forge or a coal forge.. ik coal forge is best bug being that im just starting i want to try just setting up a propane rig till i know im goign to stick with this.. plz let me know
@wolfman7123 Having a regulator and gauge on your tank will let you see what pressure you are at. Depending on the forge size you end up with, 5 psi to light it, 7-10 is all you need to to heat.
@mashersmasher galvanising will usually have a grey/bright silver surface, which as it ages becomes a dull grey patina. due to the low melting point of zinc, it will oxidise quite early in the heating process, forming an acrid white smoke, and have a white or yellow residue left on the surface of the metal. these are just the signs of zinc being present, if there is zinc on it, its best to throw it in the water bucket, tip it out and let it be.
@modernblacksmith ohh ok, where do you sell most of your products? im just wondering because im starting to metal work and wanted to know of maybe some good places to sell, once i get good enough that is haha
@clancy6969 it was a keiths but not light. it was an experimental beer they had for a year, keths white I think it was called can't remember but it was good, better than the regular keiths, but they stopped making it for some reason
@hockeyluver93 you need to just do it, the school is youtube and the internet! some blacksmiths will take aprentices but that's not so common anymore. there are courses but they're not worth it in my opinion.
SWEET great video! That weed-kill sprayer that you hooked up to with propane can got me thanking, what if you had a pressurized canister of like kerosene or some other ignitable liquid, and had it run through a tube along the "barrel" of the sprayer and then shoot out at the end... Maybe it's just me but that sounds like an effective flamethrower! I know it has nothing to do with this video but the idea of it got me real excited. :D
It's always good when those who instruct on youtube give some warnings. Most people looking at these videos have no experience what-so-ever, then they decide they will give things a go but are ignorant to even some of the obvious dangers. Thanks nice post.
Great tips, Thanks about the galvanized information. I had no ideal the fumes could kill you. I am just starting out and I was going to go with concrete in a metal paint bucket. I will make a few different forges with this KAO material and see how it does. Thank you.
@modernblacksmith Thanks brother, I had to check out your channel and subscribe. I really appreciate the help and I know where to go the next time I have a question. I am sure after I watch all your videos I will have a few questions. I have rebuilt a few go karts, but now I am building one from scratch. Metal work has always fascinated me and creating something, from nothing, is a great feeling. Thanks again for the help.
Great vid! Any suggestions on diameter size of forge. I have a small helium tank for balloons (freon tank size) can I use that? Just thinking of making a forge to make some knives.
@J0Gu7 that is a perfect size tank! and has a heavy wall try to get two inches of wool in there, usually the stuff comes an inch thick so double it up, make sure to use the cement to line it with. good luck
Can't you just go to a ventilated place and burn the galvanize off while wearing gas masks? And the guys below me said drink milk if you get galvanize poisoning is that right?
@pcblah may make you feel better but doesn't make you less poisoned....just avoid it and if there is no choice wear a respirator and think about those around you as well...a paycheck ain't worth dying for!
@tails2fan from what I understand he was a gentle soul and didn't deserve to go out that way, he was a good teacher and a man very involved in helping people learn more about blacksmithing.
WELL I MUST SAY THIS IS A JOKE THAT LITTLE FLAME WOUDNT GET HOT ENOUGHT TO DO MUST FORGING I WILL STICK WITH MY 100 YR COAL BURNING FORGE , IT ACTUALLY WORKS
@annihilator120 It's very very useful and surprisingly efficient. I made one from a gallon paint can from Lowes. I use a Bernz-O-Matic JTH-7 Propane/Mapp Gas torch, which I've adapted for use with a barbecue propane tank ($15 male disposable to male POL adapter). I've been forging with it happily for weeks now. If you check my channel you can see it in action. Mine cost less than $30 not counting the torch. That includes the can, Kaowool, and Satanite.
If his name was Paw Paw Wilson, chances are, he lived either in or near southern Louisiana. All grandfathers here are Paw Paw, and all grandmothers are Maw Maw.
But thats just me saying what I know. Propane may be easy to ge and easy to use but at least coal has no chances of blowing up!!! Coal is King.
@TheNootles actually, EPA doesn't give a shit if a blacksmith burns coal. not that i understand why anyone would -- coke burns much cleaner, and you don't have to mess around with the water can and all that crap. as to tree huggers -- i am a professional smith, and i not only hug trees, i kiss the damn things in gratitude, too. without trees, there is no oxygen to burn your coal or coke or propane, not to mention the desirability of breathing.
@431pvuf it's true that lots of sulphur is undesirable in steel - it's introduced there by coke-fired smelting process. however, coal has carbon too, and some imagine that their steel will absorb it and "improve". this just doesn't happen in a forging operation. to affect any sort of chemical absorption, steel has to sit in the forge for a long, long time (this is how blister steel used to be made). coal was used by smiths for many years to produce superb work that endures to this day.
@kalevraa Blister steel was made (in England) with Sweedish Iron which was very low in impurities, such as sulphur, because the ore was so pure. An important inovation in the switch from blister steel to crucible steel was learning to make a good flux to remove the impurities from native iron. If you're starting with pig iron not wrought iron, aren't you actually decreasing the carbon content somewhat, to make steel?
@431pvuf sure. pig iron is cast iron, and to make it forgeable the carbon content has to be brought way down. bessemer process was used early on. before that, forgeable iron was produced by reduction smelting, usually with charcoal. (one reason britain doesn't have as many trees as it used to). however, it's not a problem using coal to heat up steel for forging. there is simply no time for any significant absorption to happen under normal forging practice. i prefer gas, though.
@soul22eater22 depends on what you do, I don't do anything but ornamental work, so it doesn't matter much. for knife or tool making propane is better.
@Igotanewflashdrive Find a RR near you that ships coke and you can find plenty that falls off the cars, you just have to walk the tracks. I picked up 3-4 lbs. this morning just by picking up the largest pieces in a 15 yard stretch. I also snagged 12 HC spikes, 4 rail anchors and 3 pendrol clips in that little space.
Nice simple forge idea! I too agree that MFF is no fun. I have had it from welding galvanized parts for work. Gotta love that metallic taste in your mouth and the great headaches it gives you.
I got metal fume fever once from forging on some kind of reinforcement bar from a chain link fence, working completely outdoors in the yard with a propane forge. I felt shitty for a day and a half. Generally it won't kill you. Paw Paw was pretty old, and the way I heard it he developed pneumonia as a complication from the metal fume fever, and died of that. Still, you don't want to breath that shit. It was like the worst flu I ever had.
I saw one of those weed killers and it was called "weed burner" LOL.
pomputin123 6 days ago
Thank you for the story about Paw Paw.
I was going to melt some galvanized steel tomorrow...
but that ain't happening.
HERPDERP6860 1 week ago
@HERPDERP6860 it's ok if you wear a proper respirator
modernblacksmith 1 week ago
Really interested in the vids man, i turn 17 next week and i think i'm going to get into this a little bit with my dad when he gets back from overseas, how easy do you think it would be to make a forge?
PikaJew95 2 weeks ago
are woodstoves made from galvanize dangerous?
salonikios76 3 weeks ago
gonna do that with some fire bricks. wish me luck!
graphixkillzzz 3 weeks ago
you're awesome! thank you for the weed killer thingy! ^_^v
graphixkillzzz 3 weeks ago
I just built a coffee can forge. 2 layers of kaowool and some furnace cement..used a mapp gas torch for the flame.
I heated a 7/8 inch diameter bar of steel, it was the end of a bull point chisel for a rotary hammer.
It got it to a high orange/white heat in a very short time. I was very impressed by the heat.
I only want to make some small woodworking tools and some hinges and other hardware items so I think this forge will serve me well.
yoicho37660 1 month ago
i'm in the process of getting into blacksmithing and i have an anvil, a TON of steel, about twenty hammers, a blower, and a brake drum for a small brake drum forge but i can't seem to find any 2" threaded black iron pipe or coal! would anybody know where i could get some?
STREETRAT211 2 months ago
I got very mild metal fume fever it SUCKED.
IanRobot 3 months ago
Thank you Sir! Your vid's are always very informative and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to educate others. Your good people. Subscribed.
ryankim3612 3 months ago
thanks for vid and i subscribed
man4cannabis 4 months ago
dont play with that wool without a respirator. IE asbestos.
freddytk421 4 months ago
You can file or grind off the galvanized coating from steel. It is a relatively thin coating.
yoicho37660 4 months ago
2 days later, he died.
RPGrimreaper 5 months ago
@RPGrimreaper what dos that mean??
DABOZZKiller 5 months ago
I believe that galvanized puts off a cyanide analog of some sort and that why it kills so quickly.
Shankb777 6 months ago
hey, i know it might be a bit of an expense.. but wouldn't a decent respirator mask along with good room ventilation prevent any heavy metal poisoning?
razblack 7 months ago
@razblack yes, you can work with galvanized materials as long as you wear a welding respirator
modernblacksmith 7 months ago
FIRE ON, FIRE OFF, FIRE ON, FIRE OFF
razblack 7 months ago
My land is full of scrap, I don't want to sell it for cruddy money that will be lost to bills and taxes. I want to turn into useful durable old fashioned tools, Like the old fantastic American made hoes, pickaxe, double bladed axes, rakes and more! I'm sick of chinese cheaply made cruddy so called `tools that breaks in couple uses. Well my point is, have you made some big stuff like that? oh as well as some really strong-sharp swords?
TravelerWhereof 7 months ago 6
@TravelerWhereof have not made any heavy swords......YET!!! I would want to have a proper power hammer to make garden tools. it's just too much work to make by hand
modernblacksmith 7 months ago
I am no expert, but I believe the generic term for the KAOWOOL material you are using is just Stone Wool, or Rock Wool. It has that name because it is a natural stone or rock material that is blown into strands (silica if I am not mistaken). It goes by various brand names, it is used in residential insulation in some applications (though fiberglass is much more popular). Just do a search for 'rockwool insulation' and you will find all the various different types.
Great vid, good advice, thanks!
oaney 7 months ago
@oaney not really sure just know it mostly as refractory wool it's used generally to line furnace and boiler burn chambers
modernblacksmith 7 months ago
@oaney .. maybe mineral fiber
JaxxBat 5 days ago
i dont get it..he made a propane forge then at the end he said "but propane is expensive go with coal" why didnt he just show us how to make a coal forge?
sk3ller21 7 months ago
@sk3ller21 I have. not many folks have access to coal.
modernblacksmith 7 months ago 2
@modernblacksmith If they don't, they haven't looked. It's everywhere.
ardvarkkkkk1 2 months ago
especialy cheap beer...
crushedcranium 8 months ago
how long would a regular size propane tank last( one u would use for a grill or something) im trying to figure out if i want to make a propane forge or a coal forge.. ik coal forge is best bug being that im just starting i want to try just setting up a propane rig till i know im goign to stick with this.. plz let me know
wolfman7123 9 months ago
@wolfman7123 Having a regulator and gauge on your tank will let you see what pressure you are at. Depending on the forge size you end up with, 5 psi to light it, 7-10 is all you need to to heat.
Flyinghammer1 7 months ago
its off, its on, its off, its on i thought it was gunna last forever lol great vid
CCSinventions 9 months ago
is there a definitive way to test if something is galvinized
mashersmasher 9 months ago
@mashersmasher galvanising will usually have a grey/bright silver surface, which as it ages becomes a dull grey patina. due to the low melting point of zinc, it will oxidise quite early in the heating process, forming an acrid white smoke, and have a white or yellow residue left on the surface of the metal. these are just the signs of zinc being present, if there is zinc on it, its best to throw it in the water bucket, tip it out and let it be.
dogfootrot189 8 months ago
do you smith for a living?
Rhymer3 9 months ago
@Rhymer3 I metal work for a living..... blacksmithing is a small percentage of my income.....
modernblacksmith 9 months ago
@modernblacksmith ohh ok, where do you sell most of your products? im just wondering because im starting to metal work and wanted to know of maybe some good places to sell, once i get good enough that is haha
Rhymer3 9 months ago
@modernblacksmith i guess its destiny that im a metal worker too since my last name is smith
CCSinventions 9 months ago
@modernblacksmith what all smithing projects do you do?
choopdewoot 8 months ago
You had me at hello.....
hawkie333 9 months ago
@hawkie333 I did? hello!
modernblacksmith 9 months ago
can i use a big ass old turkey frier?
luckyscootboy 9 months ago
@luckyscootboy not if it's aluminum, stainless is the best thing you could use
modernblacksmith 9 months ago
@modernblacksmith its 1/4 inch stainless im good and i cant find that insulator shit and reccomendations
luckyscootboy 9 months ago
180 bucks does indeed buy a lot of beer
foll444 10 months ago
@foll444 .....and it's still never enough!!
modernblacksmith 10 months ago
@modernblacksmith do you NEED air blowing on the forge? maybe thats why mine failed.
jcodym13 10 months ago
@jcodym13 not on a propane forge. but on a wood coal or charcoal forge yes...
modernblacksmith 10 months ago
@modernblacksmith thanks that helps me alot.
jcodym13 10 months ago
I read up on Paw paw, it said he got double pneumonia from burning the galvanized stuff
usernameuneeded 10 months ago
@usernameuneeded you are correct.
modernblacksmith 10 months ago
how do you face the head of a hammer? do you grind it until it,s even ?
darkarchon777 11 months ago
@darkarchon777 no it should be rounded up on all sides quite round so the corners don't dent your work...
modernblacksmith 11 months ago
@modernblacksmith thank,s for the info
darkarchon777 11 months ago
What material was it that he padded the inside of the tube with? (And the same, i assume, as he used for the "stopper")
2klimpan 11 months ago
@2klimpan refractory wool. brand name kaowool it goes by many brand names
modernblacksmith 11 months ago
@mm3814able ummmm no burning pvc will kill you
modernblacksmith 11 months ago
Is that a Keiths light you are drinking?
clancy6969 11 months ago
@clancy6969 it was a keiths but not light. it was an experimental beer they had for a year, keths white I think it was called can't remember but it was good, better than the regular keiths, but they stopped making it for some reason
modernblacksmith 11 months ago
Nice vid...where does one go/ how does one go about to get blacksmith training? Just wondering cuz I'm quite interested in it
hockeyluver93 1 year ago
@hockeyluver93 you need to just do it, the school is youtube and the internet! some blacksmiths will take aprentices but that's not so common anymore. there are courses but they're not worth it in my opinion.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
SWEET great video! That weed-kill sprayer that you hooked up to with propane can got me thanking, what if you had a pressurized canister of like kerosene or some other ignitable liquid, and had it run through a tube along the "barrel" of the sprayer and then shoot out at the end... Maybe it's just me but that sounds like an effective flamethrower! I know it has nothing to do with this video but the idea of it got me real excited. :D
Wthmatt 1 year ago
It's always good when those who instruct on youtube give some warnings. Most people looking at these videos have no experience what-so-ever, then they decide they will give things a go but are ignorant to even some of the obvious dangers. Thanks nice post.
RamsesReturns 1 year ago
Great tips, Thanks about the galvanized information. I had no ideal the fumes could kill you. I am just starting out and I was going to go with concrete in a metal paint bucket. I will make a few different forges with this KAO material and see how it does. Thank you.
ImRamro 1 year ago
@ImRamro regular concrete can explode when heated use a refractory mix.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
@modernblacksmith Thanks brother, I had to check out your channel and subscribe. I really appreciate the help and I know where to go the next time I have a question. I am sure after I watch all your videos I will have a few questions. I have rebuilt a few go karts, but now I am building one from scratch. Metal work has always fascinated me and creating something, from nothing, is a great feeling. Thanks again for the help.
ImRamro 1 year ago
fantastic! just wonderful.
cmoursler3 1 year ago
Hey thanks for the info, and Merry Christmas.
J0Gu7 1 year ago
Great vid! Any suggestions on diameter size of forge. I have a small helium tank for balloons (freon tank size) can I use that? Just thinking of making a forge to make some knives.
J0Gu7 1 year ago
@J0Gu7 that is a perfect size tank! and has a heavy wall try to get two inches of wool in there, usually the stuff comes an inch thick so double it up, make sure to use the cement to line it with. good luck
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
Can't you just go to a ventilated place and burn the galvanize off while wearing gas masks? And the guys below me said drink milk if you get galvanize poisoning is that right?
pcblah 1 year ago
@pcblah may make you feel better but doesn't make you less poisoned....just avoid it and if there is no choice wear a respirator and think about those around you as well...a paycheck ain't worth dying for!
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
RIP: Jim "Paw Paw" Wilson, even in death hes teaching us what to do and not to do... a true Blacksmith he was....
tails2fan 1 year ago
@tails2fan from what I understand he was a gentle soul and didn't deserve to go out that way, he was a good teacher and a man very involved in helping people learn more about blacksmithing.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
I am having a really hard time finding a place to buy refractory wool of any kind. would furnace cement work?
BlacksmithBroadcast 1 year ago
@BlacksmithBroadcast use furnace cement over firebricks, or search for the recipe to make refractory out of peralite.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
if you use propane for a gas forge, remember that it wont work outside in the winter.
the gas wont expand to burn.
captaincake5 1 year ago
@captaincake5 I only use a coal forge myself but I know few people have access to coal....thanks for the tip!
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
WELL I MUST SAY THIS IS A JOKE THAT LITTLE FLAME WOUDNT GET HOT ENOUGHT TO DO MUST FORGING I WILL STICK WITH MY 100 YR COAL BURNING FORGE , IT ACTUALLY WORKS
deweybowling 1 year ago
@deweybowling why are you yelling? besides have you ever used propane? it works well for forging.....
modernblacksmith 1 year ago 7
@deweybowling I can get steel red-orange with wood...
WhynotMiha 1 year ago
for galvanize poisoning—drink a quart of milk or buttermilk, all ok, . . .
phillipgaley 1 year ago
It's just as bad welding galvanized. If you get that sweet taste in your mouth, get to fresh air quick!
artgoat 1 year ago
In 2005 steel was up to 225 a ton. Its about 125 today.
obeyance 1 year ago
AHHA! Been looking for something really simple so i could start some forging, thanks!
annihilator120 1 year ago
@annihilator120 It's very very useful and surprisingly efficient. I made one from a gallon paint can from Lowes. I use a Bernz-O-Matic JTH-7 Propane/Mapp Gas torch, which I've adapted for use with a barbecue propane tank ($15 male disposable to male POL adapter). I've been forging with it happily for weeks now. If you check my channel you can see it in action. Mine cost less than $30 not counting the torch. That includes the can, Kaowool, and Satanite.
Great video and good luck!
Cris
crisnrachel 1 year ago
Same here in Tampa..
butkatrello 1 year ago
Good job. Forge On!
DitchFlicks 1 year ago
lol...the end...nice
mlacey56 1 year ago
If his name was Paw Paw Wilson, chances are, he lived either in or near southern Louisiana. All grandfathers here are Paw Paw, and all grandmothers are Maw Maw.
But thats just me saying what I know. Propane may be easy to ge and easy to use but at least coal has no chances of blowing up!!! Coal is King.
ctagger 1 year ago
@ctagger He lived in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
otakop67 1 year ago
@ctagger EPA will get you " It creates smog." Freaking tree hugger crap
TheNootles 1 year ago
@TheNootles actually, EPA doesn't give a shit if a blacksmith burns coal. not that i understand why anyone would -- coke burns much cleaner, and you don't have to mess around with the water can and all that crap. as to tree huggers -- i am a professional smith, and i not only hug trees, i kiss the damn things in gratitude, too. without trees, there is no oxygen to burn your coal or coke or propane, not to mention the desirability of breathing.
kalevraa 1 year ago 11
@kalevraa surely you can't burn coal. The sulphur will make the metal brittle?
431pvuf 7 months ago
@431pvuf it's true that lots of sulphur is undesirable in steel - it's introduced there by coke-fired smelting process. however, coal has carbon too, and some imagine that their steel will absorb it and "improve". this just doesn't happen in a forging operation. to affect any sort of chemical absorption, steel has to sit in the forge for a long, long time (this is how blister steel used to be made). coal was used by smiths for many years to produce superb work that endures to this day.
kalevraa 7 months ago
@kalevraa Blister steel was made (in England) with Sweedish Iron which was very low in impurities, such as sulphur, because the ore was so pure. An important inovation in the switch from blister steel to crucible steel was learning to make a good flux to remove the impurities from native iron. If you're starting with pig iron not wrought iron, aren't you actually decreasing the carbon content somewhat, to make steel?
431pvuf 7 months ago
@431pvuf sure. pig iron is cast iron, and to make it forgeable the carbon content has to be brought way down. bessemer process was used early on. before that, forgeable iron was produced by reduction smelting, usually with charcoal. (one reason britain doesn't have as many trees as it used to). however, it's not a problem using coal to heat up steel for forging. there is simply no time for any significant absorption to happen under normal forging practice. i prefer gas, though.
kalevraa 7 months ago
@ctagger doesn't coal,absorb itself into your steel maing it a lower grade?, propane burns clean
soul22eater22 1 year ago
@soul22eater22 depends on what you do, I don't do anything but ornamental work, so it doesn't matter much. for knife or tool making propane is better.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
some one help please if i was to use an old 12 gallon oil drum and use that for a forge but use a compressor as the air would this work
dizzaeble 2 years ago
yeah it should, i would start of with a coffee tin first, they work well.
wallzac13 1 year ago
were can i get one of those weed burning thingys?
DustenDee 2 years ago
Could this be used to make a furnace to melt aluminum?
nrkey4ever 2 years ago
Yes, I think so
TechnicusJoe 2 years ago
Was that a keiths light beer?
clancy6969 2 years ago
excellent tutorial; simple, clear and most importantly, cheap. nice presentation, as well.
ritter89 2 years ago
so what are good places to get coal?
Igotanewflashdrive 2 years ago
@Igotanewflashdrive Find a RR near you that ships coke and you can find plenty that falls off the cars, you just have to walk the tracks. I picked up 3-4 lbs. this morning just by picking up the largest pieces in a 15 yard stretch. I also snagged 12 HC spikes, 4 rail anchors and 3 pendrol clips in that little space.
charlesburch 2 years ago
PS, hank hill would shit a brick if he yeard you say that last bit XD
danz409 2 years ago
OMG you sound like the guy that does "mind of goardan freeman... the best "can do" attatude ever ^^
danz409 2 years ago
OMG, I have one of these in the garage for weeding! How cool!
I'll get the kids blacksmithing this weekend!
Thank you so much for the help!
brynn1285 2 years ago
where do u get kao wool
codydean10 2 years ago
Nice simple forge idea! I too agree that MFF is no fun. I have had it from welding galvanized parts for work. Gotta love that metallic taste in your mouth and the great headaches it gives you.
manfromalaska 2 years ago
I've had it a couple times, first time was the worst I breathed that shit all day and I was some sick!!
modernblacksmith 2 years ago
I got metal fume fever once from forging on some kind of reinforcement bar from a chain link fence, working completely outdoors in the yard with a propane forge. I felt shitty for a day and a half. Generally it won't kill you. Paw Paw was pretty old, and the way I heard it he developed pneumonia as a complication from the metal fume fever, and died of that. Still, you don't want to breath that shit. It was like the worst flu I ever had.
banjodan99 2 years ago
great vid and good advice thanks for sharing
demonokron 2 years ago