@264Win1 You can build up a nice Ruger 10/22 to learn on. Build a little at a time. Boyds SS Evolution stock, a Hornet trigger,, a target bolt, a nice stainless fluted barrel, a mini bi-pod and a rim fire style scope. It will soon become your favorite weapon and very accurate. It's cheap to shoot and way fun. With practice and Kentucky windage you can nail beer cans at 250/300 yds.and further. It's easy to dance beer cans at 50/100 yds.Golf balls are a kick as well. Build it yourself!
People can talk s*** on benchrest shooters all they want. If it weren't for the BR shooters most of the innovations in rifle accuracy wouldn't be here today. You probably wouldn't even know what a pillar and glass bedded action or a carbon fiber stock were if it weren't for benchrest. Not to mention so many others. So lay off!
Nothing is more fun than seeing your boss out on the range trying to sight in his new expensive baby with WalMart ammo, bench rested (holes all over the paper) and you offer some hand loads to use and he says I don't want to blow my gun up. After assuming responsibility for his weapon he reluctantly says I can shoot it in his gun. I shot a touching cloverleaf in the upper right corner of his target after aiming at the bull, picked up my brass and walked away. You had to have been there :)
@sandrifter I love when I put my AR-15 service rifle on one sandbag on the bench next to guys with high power scopes and weighted sleds and beat them outright usually with .75-1 moa versus their 2 moa.
It would seem to me that once you are sure of the weapon and ammo by having touching groups then you would do it "freehand" and try to perfect yourself to match the weapon's ability. I have shot in competition before and found that once I was sure that it was me at fault, then being humbled I learned to compete against my weapon. It's then all about honing your human skills to incorporate yourself with the weapon. It's breathing, trigger pull, sight picture, heart rate and concentration.
as a target shooter ive always thought that u have to admit the only skill in this benchrest shooting is observing ur windages, trajectories and weather effectsetc but that can all be calculated, then theres finding an accurate enough round, however theres no human skill required if u think about it, once calculations are made only the trigger has to be touched.
@mirkthirteen Yes all these things you mention "Can" be calculated, right.
"Finding" an accurate round is not as you describe, we constantly work at making the most accurate "round" with precision work in turning necks and trimming, weighing cartridge cases into selected lots, testing different quality bullets and seating depths, selecting right powder with correct burning rate, and choosing correct primer etc . Human skill? The best BR shooters make the least human mistakes, believe me !
@birgrunar yer soz i was meant to say alot would go into the fine tuning of creating your own rounds etc, so fair enough its kind of asking for a completely different kind of skill lol, just saying out in the field they aint gonna go so well, since there gonna need arms to support themselves ;) But yer fair enough i see where the workings go into it, lol it just feels so weird in comparison with them going damn i didnt get 10.10, lol and theyre connected to a bench
@birgrunar Oh of course sorry i meant to say u would have to develop ur own loads to fine tune them to perfection, etc no u wouldnt be using factory loads, now i understand completely that there are factors into correcting everything plus yes weighin cases etc, just arr lol theres no real human skill, finding the right stuff to make it accurate, fine but wheres the challenge of perfecting yourself?
@mirkthirteen I consider it a human skill, reading the wind, evaluating mirage, correct setup of rifle for every shot, correct trigger squeeze.
Note this Bench Rest shooting in competition is a special sport, aimed at getting highest precision out of gun and man, meaning you have to be extremely consistent to get good groups and aggregates in competition when you have only 7 mins for finishing your 5 shot group. BR competition is all about perfection in rifle and man.
@birgrunar Fair enough its a different art form, opposed to what the other shooting disciplines are like. Thanks, gave me a better insight, the aims are quite different then.
@mirkthirteen Hello. There are two benches involved in this sport: the shooting bench and the loading bench. I pursue this sport and may I say that a formidable skill set is required to study the rifle completely and to build up the proper round using the right case and right bullet. Then there's shooting skill on the bench applying knowledge of wind, bullet trajectory, spin drift. Shooting the round isn't the end of it. The expended case is then examined for signs of overpressure.
It is always nice to see the actual targets not just the rifle. On that alone I give it an A+. As far as level of difficulty, in terms of marksmanship, I think it is obvious that not much of that exists. Trigger control is definetely something that is required, though. I think the difficulty relates to the equipment and the Ammo. Fitting the equiment to the shooter and fitting the ammo to the rifle is easier said than done.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Show up at the Super Shoot in Ohio and shoot against the other 350+ shooters. We'll see how easy it is then...
im saying all you need to do is dial the scope. The yoke holds the rifle nice and firm. You don't need to squeeze or get comfortable or place your elbows in a certain way or wrap the sling around your forearm or wait till the crosshairs are over the target. This is easy in comparison to that.
why are the bench shooters ALWAYS middle aged fat-men? Help educate the youth before the art is lost! Get the young people interested you old narsistic baby boomer jackasses! Take a 20 something to the range! get pro active!get them to go! this is important because you all know the day is coming when even ammo is impossible to get, not to mention guns. I know it is at the back of every gun lovers mind. wake the hell up!
spiders out of webs mi nar lie.
DICKIEMONSTER 2 weeks ago
A much better video, it shows the results unlike all the rest.
Job well done!
1LonePuma 1 month ago
@1LonePuma Thank you sir.
birgrunar 1 month ago
Some day I will be able to afford a rifle that groups that well. Then all I have to do is learn to use it to the optimum.
264Win1 3 months ago
@264Win1 You can build up a nice Ruger 10/22 to learn on. Build a little at a time. Boyds SS Evolution stock, a Hornet trigger,, a target bolt, a nice stainless fluted barrel, a mini bi-pod and a rim fire style scope. It will soon become your favorite weapon and very accurate. It's cheap to shoot and way fun. With practice and Kentucky windage you can nail beer cans at 250/300 yds.and further. It's easy to dance beer cans at 50/100 yds.Golf balls are a kick as well. Build it yourself!
sandrifter 2 months ago
Anybody can shoot like this at 15 yards..
steppara 4 months ago
For a video titled introduction it sure didn't do much but show a guy pulling a trigger and a target getting holes shot into it.
61389alpha 5 months ago
People can talk s*** on benchrest shooters all they want. If it weren't for the BR shooters most of the innovations in rifle accuracy wouldn't be here today. You probably wouldn't even know what a pillar and glass bedded action or a carbon fiber stock were if it weren't for benchrest. Not to mention so many others. So lay off!
MrSurgicalPrecision 8 months ago 6
@MrSurgicalPrecision True !
birgrunar 8 months ago
Sweet.
jmar1371 8 months ago
Nothing is more fun than seeing your boss out on the range trying to sight in his new expensive baby with WalMart ammo, bench rested (holes all over the paper) and you offer some hand loads to use and he says I don't want to blow my gun up. After assuming responsibility for his weapon he reluctantly says I can shoot it in his gun. I shot a touching cloverleaf in the upper right corner of his target after aiming at the bull, picked up my brass and walked away. You had to have been there :)
sandrifter 1 year ago 3
@sandrifter I love when I put my AR-15 service rifle on one sandbag on the bench next to guys with high power scopes and weighted sleds and beat them outright usually with .75-1 moa versus their 2 moa.
SinginShooter 2 months ago
It would seem to me that once you are sure of the weapon and ammo by having touching groups then you would do it "freehand" and try to perfect yourself to match the weapon's ability. I have shot in competition before and found that once I was sure that it was me at fault, then being humbled I learned to compete against my weapon. It's then all about honing your human skills to incorporate yourself with the weapon. It's breathing, trigger pull, sight picture, heart rate and concentration.
sandrifter 1 year ago
@sandrifter Right !
birgrunar 1 year ago
as a target shooter ive always thought that u have to admit the only skill in this benchrest shooting is observing ur windages, trajectories and weather effectsetc but that can all be calculated, then theres finding an accurate enough round, however theres no human skill required if u think about it, once calculations are made only the trigger has to be touched.
mirkthirteen 1 year ago
@mirkthirteen Yes all these things you mention "Can" be calculated, right.
"Finding" an accurate round is not as you describe, we constantly work at making the most accurate "round" with precision work in turning necks and trimming, weighing cartridge cases into selected lots, testing different quality bullets and seating depths, selecting right powder with correct burning rate, and choosing correct primer etc . Human skill? The best BR shooters make the least human mistakes, believe me !
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar yer soz i was meant to say alot would go into the fine tuning of creating your own rounds etc, so fair enough its kind of asking for a completely different kind of skill lol, just saying out in the field they aint gonna go so well, since there gonna need arms to support themselves ;) But yer fair enough i see where the workings go into it, lol it just feels so weird in comparison with them going damn i didnt get 10.10, lol and theyre connected to a bench
mirkthirteen 1 year ago
@birgrunar Oh of course sorry i meant to say u would have to develop ur own loads to fine tune them to perfection, etc no u wouldnt be using factory loads, now i understand completely that there are factors into correcting everything plus yes weighin cases etc, just arr lol theres no real human skill, finding the right stuff to make it accurate, fine but wheres the challenge of perfecting yourself?
mirkthirteen 1 year ago
@mirkthirteen I consider it a human skill, reading the wind, evaluating mirage, correct setup of rifle for every shot, correct trigger squeeze.
Note this Bench Rest shooting in competition is a special sport, aimed at getting highest precision out of gun and man, meaning you have to be extremely consistent to get good groups and aggregates in competition when you have only 7 mins for finishing your 5 shot group. BR competition is all about perfection in rifle and man.
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar Fair enough its a different art form, opposed to what the other shooting disciplines are like. Thanks, gave me a better insight, the aims are quite different then.
mirkthirteen 1 year ago
@mirkthirteen Hello. There are two benches involved in this sport: the shooting bench and the loading bench. I pursue this sport and may I say that a formidable skill set is required to study the rifle completely and to build up the proper round using the right case and right bullet. Then there's shooting skill on the bench applying knowledge of wind, bullet trajectory, spin drift. Shooting the round isn't the end of it. The expended case is then examined for signs of overpressure.
ebrak47 1 year ago
lmao, i like your trigger control =)
JaySkuh 1 year ago
I'm using BR-targets to train my skills in precision shooting at 50 and 100 meters with rimfire target rifle.
My rifle is a Suhl M-150 with 10-50x60 scope and swivel bipod.
Shoting from the prone position w/o buttstock support. Only the non shoting hand is allowed to support the buttstock. That's military style ;)
The smallest groups i'm reaching constantly are measuring about 15 mm (outer circle) with 10 shots of competition class ammunition.
DarkAngel7567 2 years ago
Not much skill involved in that. just cooking up new recipes to try i guess.
DIRTNAPPIN222 2 years ago
It is always nice to see the actual targets not just the rifle. On that alone I give it an A+. As far as level of difficulty, in terms of marksmanship, I think it is obvious that not much of that exists. Trigger control is definetely something that is required, though. I think the difficulty relates to the equipment and the Ammo. Fitting the equiment to the shooter and fitting the ammo to the rifle is easier said than done.
Overall good shooting.
lovshooting 3 years ago 5
true hey
cs512tr 3 years ago
He doesn't every touch the damn rifle!!! Thats not precision shooting. You may as well have a computer shoot for you.
wehrmachtsniper1 3 years ago 2
Hello wehrmachtsniper1
Have you heard about wind effect,mirage,
light and the effect these do ?
Proper gun control etc ?
All the best to you in your shooting.
birgrunar
birgrunar 3 years ago
@wehrmachtsniper1 Wrong.
chakathewolf 1 year ago
"wehrmachtsniper1"
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Show up at the Super Shoot in Ohio and shoot against the other 350+ shooters. We'll see how easy it is then...
Bryan041589 4 years ago 2
im saying all you need to do is dial the scope. The yoke holds the rifle nice and firm. You don't need to squeeze or get comfortable or place your elbows in a certain way or wrap the sling around your forearm or wait till the crosshairs are over the target. This is easy in comparison to that.
wehrmachtsniper1 3 years ago
@wehrmachtsniper1
you're comparing apples with pears.
precision rifle shooting and BR are two totally different worlds. and each has its own difficulties.
I respect the BR-shooters also like they respect the precision-shooters.
We all have the same interests and the same hobbies: rifles, weapon technologies and so on.
and we all want the same:
to reach the maximum out of our setup.
DarkAngel7567 2 years ago
Аффтар жжот!
Снемай исчо!
gunsforum 4 years ago
why are the bench shooters ALWAYS middle aged fat-men? Help educate the youth before the art is lost! Get the young people interested you old narsistic baby boomer jackasses! Take a 20 something to the range! get pro active!get them to go! this is important because you all know the day is coming when even ammo is impossible to get, not to mention guns. I know it is at the back of every gun lovers mind. wake the hell up!
assasinassasinator 4 years ago
GROW UP.
GrandmaFoxes 4 years ago
Agree with u 100% althought you coulda said it more subtle.
Im 20 and feel so outa place when I go to the range.
Old folks with their custom engraved guns and here I am shooting a Big5 gun.
Still love the sport tho.
mtlh05 4 years ago
me to. im 25 and still a bit new to it all. getting my own .22 soon. but hey, we all start somewhere...
and its fun right, so who cares hey :D
hehe
cs512tr 3 years ago
Was that rapid-fire, or just edited video?
JGMagoo 4 years ago
whats the range?
NZMetallica 4 years ago
The range is 100 Meters
birgrunar 4 years ago
No skill required. Is what It needs to say.
wehrmachtsniper1 4 years ago
Thats not an introduction into bench rest, It showed us some guy firing quickly.
origeonalpranksta 4 years ago
Where's the report when you see the shot hit the target? I know it won't be loud but it is still audiable.
91980gabe 5 years ago
The sound of the shots fired are heard when they go off. It overlaps the sound when the bullet hits target.
birgrunar 5 years ago
camera microphones can only pick up so many dB's and that's why it sounds muffled.
jorgensonb78 4 years ago 2
caliber????
orlando818 5 years ago
Impressive and educational for Rifle shooters !
birgrunar 6 years ago