When I was in the Air Force At Spangdahlem Germany in 1976, I was 25 then, I saw an article in Popular Science or Mechanics Mag. showing the Minto Power Wheel working. The author at the time noted the slow rotation but high torque and with proper gearing up could do useful work. I showed this to a German Heating-Cooling contractor and he was very impress with it he said, "This is very smart thinking."
@Helioechidna My great grand father invented this, If you want to I can fax you one of the pan-flits (That he used to sell it) That we have just sitting around still in the workshop ware he made the huge one I believe it was somewhere around 50 feet tall. (Thats only if you really want it) I also have a bunch of other stuff about the Free on car *don't know if your familiar with that*
Interesting idea, but I can't help thinking it's nuts to use a water bath to heat it - the parasitic drag must be greater than the potential output on that design.
The harder you make it work, the harder it works. Wow... nice example. Thanks for producing an accurate video that doesn't claim this is "free energy".
Very impressive. I just watched the video before this, and I'm wondering why do you make the pods round? Wouldn't it be better to have a greater surface area ratio, to dissipate the heat better?
put some magnets on the tubes.. for more fly wheel weight and to generate electricity with coils. next time use the sun with mirrors to heat the water. maybe an oil film might keep down evaporation an d heat loss.
At time 00:38, the video shows a temperature meter which reads 53.9 degrees C (129 deg F). The older video of the first prototype also shows the temperature.
Thought: Just as a Czech all-glass dippy bird won't work if it's beak is de-flocked, I wonder: would adding some flock coating to the globes possibly aid the action further?
Fantastic; Awesome; I have been wanting to build one of these for the past two years. 10 ft. diamiter & 20lb. LPG bottles. You inspired me to go and "DO IT". Will post video whem complete.
Thanks; I need to check it out and see what they did wrong. Worked for Wallace Mintos in 1948 & Mother Earth News magazine in 1953. & here today in this vidio.
Mythbuzers tried to defame each free energy concept. It's a science show without scientists. They cant hide behind their lack of education, they shouldn't be doing this show in the first place.
Or is education a myth also?
Perhaps if we had more then 1 "science" show on this planet it would be obvious. lol
@RHEAD100 I don't think LPG bottles are a good idea, since they're too thick and the energy needed for the heating would be bigger than with some materials that have a good heat-transfer properties.
Another thing I'd suggest is to heat the tanks directly, not a whole canister of water, to increase the thermal efficiency of the wheel. Other than that, it's a plausible design that can utilise solar collectors for efficient thermal-electric production. Excellent job! Too bad it's an old video
I haven't actually tried it, but it would of course work. The larger the scale the less it becomes important as the mass of the structure becomes a source of inertia. Rate of heat flow, buoyancy effects and a few other influences smooth out the motion on larger scales.
I'm not sure what to say as we have always known "heat" rises. I mean is there anything new here other than a well done demonstration. I ask only to see if I may have missed a point or something not meaning to sound mean or anything.
To better understand this engine, look up "Minto Wheel". Although Helioechidna developed his prototype independently of Wallace Minto, both versions employ the same basic principle. One aspect that makes this engine special is that it (along with Stirling engines) can operate off of very modest temperature differences.
Nice! Your latest wheel definitely runs smoother. And having it lift a weight gives a direct way to measure the power out put (harder to get a feel for the power used by the LED in your previous video). Anyone interested in this type of heat engine, please visit tech.groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/MintoWheel
Did you need to create/maintain a vacuum in the remaining container WHILE filling the 'bottom' one?
hoverbored1 1 year ago
Very elegant
A1
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
When I was in the Air Force At Spangdahlem Germany in 1976, I was 25 then, I saw an article in Popular Science or Mechanics Mag. showing the Minto Power Wheel working. The author at the time noted the slow rotation but high torque and with proper gearing up could do useful work. I showed this to a German Heating-Cooling contractor and he was very impress with it he said, "This is very smart thinking."
1foxtrot70 1 year ago
My name is Darien MINTO Fedro, My Great grand-father invented this.
ffdarien123 1 year ago
@ffdarien123 sorry for the delay in replying, tell me more
Helioechidna 1 year ago
@Helioechidna My great grand father invented this, If you want to I can fax you one of the pan-flits (That he used to sell it) That we have just sitting around still in the workshop ware he made the huge one I believe it was somewhere around 50 feet tall. (Thats only if you really want it) I also have a bunch of other stuff about the Free on car *don't know if your familiar with that*
ffdarien123 1 year ago
nice work. Have you looked at using aqueous ammonia as a working fluid?
KWAZAI 1 year ago
Interesting idea, but I can't help thinking it's nuts to use a water bath to heat it - the parasitic drag must be greater than the potential output on that design.
bentate99 1 year ago
what is the thermal efficiency of a minto wheel? is it fair to call it a "rotary stirling engine?"
flatulence2 2 years ago
evacuated solar tubes to make your hot water. ..
philosothink 2 years ago
but it needs heat energy to power it. why dont we just send that heat energy to turn a turbine that is more efficient?
danndan6 2 years ago
You could knock one of these up out of copper pipe and standard plumbing stuff. Realy Elegant. Bravo.
MrWombatPPC 2 years ago
Nice glass work !
tjgame2 2 years ago 2
The harder you make it work, the harder it works. Wow... nice example. Thanks for producing an accurate video that doesn't claim this is "free energy".
doobedoo22 3 years ago
what did you use (what liquid) i need to know because im doing a project on this plz tell me :)
ffdarien123 3 years ago
Very impressive. I just watched the video before this, and I'm wondering why do you make the pods round? Wouldn't it be better to have a greater surface area ratio, to dissipate the heat better?
McConsumer 3 years ago
thats the minto wheel isn't it thats kinda cool i love wally minto.
ffdarien123 3 years ago
fresnel lenses would be the cheapest most efficient thing to heat this.
sn1pe352 4 years ago
Songs of a Distant Earth... Nice.
krswon 4 years ago
put some magnets on the tubes.. for more fly wheel weight and to generate electricity with coils. next time use the sun with mirrors to heat the water. maybe an oil film might keep down evaporation an d heat loss.
josephdupont 4 years ago
Hey, it's Lorenz's waterwheel!
cyborgtroy 4 years ago
no its not its the minto wheel!!!!!
ffdarien123 3 years ago
i'd love to know how hot the water is, and where you got the tubes from/how you got the methanol inside.
Blargsix 4 years ago
At time 00:38, the video shows a temperature meter which reads 53.9 degrees C (129 deg F). The older video of the first prototype also shows the temperature.
EinsteinVonRembrandt 4 years ago
very cool.:)
sunwindwaterenergy 4 years ago
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh
HartfordTommy 4 years ago
Now that I've caught my breath...
This is revelatory! Thank you!
Thought: Just as a Czech all-glass dippy bird won't work if it's beak is de-flocked, I wonder: would adding some flock coating to the globes possibly aid the action further?
I'll send you a link to some DIY pictures, fwiw.
HartfordTommy 4 years ago
Fantastic; Awesome; I have been wanting to build one of these for the past two years. 10 ft. diamiter & 20lb. LPG bottles. You inspired me to go and "DO IT". Will post video whem complete.
RHEAD100 4 years ago
mythbusters did it and it was a fizzle.
cooltheory 4 years ago
Thanks; I need to check it out and see what they did wrong. Worked for Wallace Mintos in 1948 & Mother Earth News magazine in 1953. & here today in this vidio.
RHEAD100 4 years ago
Mythbuzers tried to defame each free energy concept. It's a science show without scientists. They cant hide behind their lack of education, they shouldn't be doing this show in the first place.
Or is education a myth also?
Perhaps if we had more then 1 "science" show on this planet it would be obvious. lol
gabydewilde 4 years ago
@RHEAD100 I don't think LPG bottles are a good idea, since they're too thick and the energy needed for the heating would be bigger than with some materials that have a good heat-transfer properties.
Another thing I'd suggest is to heat the tanks directly, not a whole canister of water, to increase the thermal efficiency of the wheel. Other than that, it's a plausible design that can utilise solar collectors for efficient thermal-electric production. Excellent job! Too bad it's an old video
veco8 1 year ago
Could you put a few of those babies on the same axle, out of phase, to smooth out the motion?
What are you using for your working fluid? Alcohol?
greatestdirectorisme 4 years ago
würde besser gewesen sein
cooltheory 4 years ago
crap music
cooltheory 4 years ago
Have you tried adding a flywheel to even out the motion?
16strings 4 years ago
I haven't actually tried it, but it would of course work. The larger the scale the less it becomes important as the mass of the structure becomes a source of inertia. Rate of heat flow, buoyancy effects and a few other influences smooth out the motion on larger scales.
Helioechidna 4 years ago
Not bad!
And 129 deg. F (53.9 deg. C) water would be simple to obtain through solar heating, too!
honkforkids 4 years ago
I'm not sure what to say as we have always known "heat" rises. I mean is there anything new here other than a well done demonstration. I ask only to see if I may have missed a point or something not meaning to sound mean or anything.
sc6chuck9 4 years ago
To better understand this engine, look up "Minto Wheel". Although Helioechidna developed his prototype independently of Wallace Minto, both versions employ the same basic principle. One aspect that makes this engine special is that it (along with Stirling engines) can operate off of very modest temperature differences.
EinsteinVonRembrandt 4 years ago
Awesome! Great work!
mrwarneke 4 years ago
Nice! Your latest wheel definitely runs smoother. And having it lift a weight gives a direct way to measure the power out put (harder to get a feel for the power used by the LED in your previous video). Anyone interested in this type of heat engine, please visit tech.groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/MintoWheel
EinsteinVonRembrandt 4 years ago