I listened to your album on your website, and although I like that a lot, I prefer this much more... Are you planning an album with these kind of church/space music perhaps/hopefully??
After many years of searching i found a Jupiter 4 in junk shop for £50, imagine my surprize when i found a Willy Wonka golden ticket under one of the keys!
i love your demos , very creative and they show some of the character of the synth.
I personally love real analogue synths as i cant feel the same way when i use software emulations.I just find that a lesser experience and less fun ? so these synths are worth the money as they give me more of a thrill ? is that hype ? i think not - its how i feel and why so many people love analogue synths in particular - they are REAL
There is a magic to these old synths that software will never replicated
A friend of mine who doesn't play music owns a Jupiter 4, I have begged him over and over again to sell it to me for a fair amount of money, but he wont!!!
In great shape, needs a tuning and the memory fixed, but that's it... Toobad :(
Sniperdot, don't get obsessed by it, i think you would be underwhelmed if you actually got it. As great as these are I think 50% of it is hype and nostalgia, you can easily achieve convincing analogue with vsti's and they are a lot cheaper and more reliable! This kit is fine if you are wealthy but for the rest of us just stick to making music.
Indeed it is! It was Roland's first polyphonic analog synthesizer. It does, however, contain some digital circuitry, for storing patches, assigning voices, etc., but the oscillators and filters are 100% analog. Roland called this combination "Compuphonic" !! Totally 70's !!
omg!!! I wish i could play an analog one... Well, I don´t know if you program a sequence and then play this in each note according to its tune... I have a digital one. There´s a kind of arppegiator , but you have to create the sequence... but I see myself limited about effects... I mean.. I can´t chance the time of delay.. I have to use exactly how it is in the key´s memory. The things only changes when I connect the key to a PC... Cheers!!! Oh, my.. I wrote a lot!! =D
The Memory Man does equalize (in this case, filter out) some of the high frequencies -- especially after each repetition of the delay. But such is the nature of analog delay.
Hey, thanks for the heads up on the band Muse. I wasn't familiar with their stuff (so much music... so little time...). What a great band! Very inspiring, indeed!
maison, do you feel the memory man is a 'tone sucker'?
i'm looking for a good delay and also a loop station...i was planning on purchasing them separately, until i found out about this the memory man...which, honestly, sounds too good to be true
Well, to be honest, it IS a bit of a 'tone sucker' as you say... but for me it's worth the high frequency trade-off for the fabulous character this box produces. In the studio just today, feeling a bit lazy to dial-in settings on the Memory Man, I opted for a high-end analog modeling delay plugin instead... but within a few minutes, I was hooking up the Memory Man and back to dialing in settings by hand! In short, it IS indeed too good to be true. Cheers.
It's funny you should say that because just the other day I was speaking to an organist friend of mine suggesting he persuade his church to replace their pipe organ with a Jupiter-4. I think a Bach Chorale with a slow LFO filter sweep would be quite inspiring on a Sunday morning, don't you think?
Haven't seen the video yet... but I'd LOVE to see a preacher playing an ARP Quadra in church! Haha. BTW, it looks like the original poster deleted his/her post. Oh well....
It's a Roland Jupiter 4...the first Jupiter synth. This is what the BBC used a lot...especially the Dr. Who theme during the wonderful Tom Baker years.
My God,LET'S GIVE THIS SYNTH THE RECOGNITION IT DESERVES. Never realised JP4's sounded so dense,rich, and organic-only one VCO as well, though with a sub-oscillator too. Makes my JUNO 6O sound paper thin!
Sorry, I've already forgotten! LOL. I'm so lazy about writing down my patches. Terrible habit. One good thing about the Jupiter-4's limited patch memory is that it forces you to continually be creative.
Well, I got mine off eBay, though I generally wouldn't recommend buying vintage synths this way, given the risk factor. I got lucky with mine. I honestly think the best way to buy vintage gear is the old fashioned way: that is, via small adverts in magazines, synth sites, local newspapers, etc. Sadly eBay has ruined the market for vintage gear with all the bidding wars, hype, etc. Fortunately however, the Jupiter-4 is not nearly as coveted as either the Jupiter-6 or Jupiter-8. Good luck!
In the two years since I wrote that the prices for Jupiter-4's have gone through the roof! £833 would be a bargain at this point! They are a bit fragile, yes, so I would try to avoid shipping... but sometimes it's unavoidable. Just make certain it is well packed ; )
It ended at over £1,000 and the winner bid in the last 6 seconds. Everything is more than the prices in the book. I've read warnings about buying without looking and listening, difficult on ebay. I don't want to spend a lot on one which breaks and can't be mended. Is it safer to go to a shop where they check it over? I only have room for one, hard to tell without trying it.
The book is "Analog Synthesizers" by Mark Jenkins. Everything is more than his pricelist! He says some are easier to mend than others but doesn't say which. Are some more robust and better made than others?
@kolakube123.. I got my Jupiter-4 for equivalent to $600 US, in nearly mint condition, with original chrome musicsheet stand hooked into the back, and original hard case included.. The inside was also checked and overhauled so it works perfectly.. I guess it was a good deal.
@Laura041974.. You can get it cheaper than that.. I recently got a nearly mint condition Jupiter-4 with its original music sheet stand & original hard case included, everything working perfectly, for equivalent to about $600 US.
@haikousei You're really lucky. Did you have to bid for it or reply to an ad? Where do you live? I can't find much. Gumtree and Craigslist have some but Sound on Sound is best. In Cash Converters in Norwich, they just stare blankly when I start asking!
@Laura041974. No bid. I just went to a regular used goods store and bought it. It was in nearly mint condition. Even wood sides had no scratches at all. I didn't expect it. I live near Roland Headquarters so there is a higher percent of people with old Roland synths in excellent condition, but most people want to keep theirs.
yes. the tempo of the delay is roughly set to the tempo of the arpeggiator. it's inexact -- but for me that adds to the character of the effect in this case. when working with virtual synths and delay effects i often opt not to "sync to MIDI" preferring to adjust the delay time by hand for similar reasons.
I wonder if you can recreate and post a video of the random arpeggiation of "Rio" using the random mode on the Jupiter 4's arpeggiator with a C minor chord.
Ah thanx ! The Jupiter 4 has a awesome sound love this machine will definetely my next synth ! Try to get one, but the price nowadays is totally overpriced. But i really want one !! Love this sound ! please make some more !!
Nice sequence sound ;)
plasmaforce11 6 months ago
I listened to your album on your website, and although I like that a lot, I prefer this much more... Are you planning an album with these kind of church/space music perhaps/hopefully??
antoninprochazka 7 months ago
@antoninprochazka Many thanks for your comments. I am indeed planning such an album!
maisonvague 7 months ago
Excellent playing! I love it
antoninprochazka 7 months ago
After many years of searching i found a Jupiter 4 in junk shop for £50, imagine my surprize when i found a Willy Wonka golden ticket under one of the keys!
ybot1983 1 year ago
i love your demos , very creative and they show some of the character of the synth.
I personally love real analogue synths as i cant feel the same way when i use software emulations.I just find that a lesser experience and less fun ? so these synths are worth the money as they give me more of a thrill ? is that hype ? i think not - its how i feel and why so many people love analogue synths in particular - they are REAL
There is a magic to these old synths that software will never replicated
KiNeTiCsOuNdPrIsM 1 year ago
sowas von schmatzend fett. any chance to get this out of my poly 61? ...
torocamino 1 year ago
nice!
steveb40 1 year ago
A friend of mine who doesn't play music owns a Jupiter 4, I have begged him over and over again to sell it to me for a fair amount of money, but he wont!!!
In great shape, needs a tuning and the memory fixed, but that's it... Toobad :(
Sniperdot 2 years ago
Sniperdot, don't get obsessed by it, i think you would be underwhelmed if you actually got it. As great as these are I think 50% of it is hype and nostalgia, you can easily achieve convincing analogue with vsti's and they are a lot cheaper and more reliable! This kit is fine if you are wealthy but for the rest of us just stick to making music.
maccagrabme 2 years ago
@maccagrabme Wouldn't a new computer, speakers, keyboard to play and software would be just as expensive as a synth?
Laura041974 1 year ago
I am totally dancing the robot.
talledu 2 years ago
that synth sounds so yummy didnt vince use that:?
milo98 2 years ago
Awesome !!!! I can imagine a loud 4/4 drum track in the back ground...that would make for some good EMB listening.Cheers
dnadesign 2 years ago
Is this an analoguemachine?
djthym 2 years ago
Indeed it is! It was Roland's first polyphonic analog synthesizer. It does, however, contain some digital circuitry, for storing patches, assigning voices, etc., but the oscillators and filters are 100% analog. Roland called this combination "Compuphonic" !! Totally 70's !!
maisonvague 2 years ago
@djthym
Yes. Analog.
DamballaWedo 2 years ago
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JezJacko 2 years ago
Reminds me of Reproduction and Travelogue ;o)
JezJacko 2 years ago
omg!!! I wish i could play an analog one... Well, I don´t know if you program a sequence and then play this in each note according to its tune... I have a digital one. There´s a kind of arppegiator , but you have to create the sequence... but I see myself limited about effects... I mean.. I can´t chance the time of delay.. I have to use exactly how it is in the key´s memory. The things only changes when I connect the key to a PC... Cheers!!! Oh, my.. I wrote a lot!! =D
biladd 2 years ago
ooooh analog....I miss you
cmdreno 2 years ago
amazing! you're convincing me of getting a DMM!
chevoton 2 years ago
JP4! One of the best ever.
:)
booksforsaleATebid 2 years ago 5
damn that sounds nice
kekenalii 2 years ago 3
Nice!
SashaTrancer 2 years ago
its great clarck...
love it.
I will let liz slatton know i found you here..
permacultureli 2 years ago
Great!
Is arpeggiator playing in random mode?
anemic86 2 years ago
This would be great to use to bring back some 80's sci-fi classic. And why not?
TheDoctorUK 3 years ago
Wonderful!
Are you doing ALL THIS with memory man and jp-4 ONLY?
myrmur 3 years ago
Yep. The arpeggiator is doing most of the work, though, I have to say ;)
maisonvague 3 years ago
Cool, really! And this delicate and sweet sound is coming straight from Jp-4 or is "touched" by memory man?
myrmur 3 years ago
Yes, the sound is all coming from just the JP-4, but the memory man delay is still a key factor in the over all sound of the track.
maisonvague 3 years ago
the memory man gets a sort of equalize to the over all sound, right?
myrmur 3 years ago
The Memory Man does equalize (in this case, filter out) some of the high frequencies -- especially after each repetition of the delay. But such is the nature of analog delay.
maisonvague 3 years ago
Sounds like a muse song, nice progression!
PapaKenny777 3 years ago
Hey, thanks for the heads up on the band Muse. I wasn't familiar with their stuff (so much music... so little time...). What a great band! Very inspiring, indeed!
maisonvague 3 years ago
To listen is to love. This is music. And I have melted.
CactusEater 3 years ago
maison, do you feel the memory man is a 'tone sucker'?
i'm looking for a good delay and also a loop station...i was planning on purchasing them separately, until i found out about this the memory man...which, honestly, sounds too good to be true
postpunk77 3 years ago
Well, to be honest, it IS a bit of a 'tone sucker' as you say... but for me it's worth the high frequency trade-off for the fabulous character this box produces. In the studio just today, feeling a bit lazy to dial-in settings on the Memory Man, I opted for a high-end analog modeling delay plugin instead... but within a few minutes, I was hooking up the Memory Man and back to dialing in settings by hand! In short, it IS indeed too good to be true. Cheers.
maisonvague 3 years ago
my heart is broken..love
turbo83 3 years ago
Can u please do some more tracks !
They're like fucking amazing !
samnninty 3 years ago
if this was played in a church i'd have a reason to go there...
DJBonc 3 years ago 20
No shit! :thumbsup:
LyndonTCorbett 3 years ago 2
nice, has something of classic music..
tubewatch66 3 years ago
wow, really enjoyed this tune. did it just come out of your mind? or what did you play here?! great job! thanx
3Null3 3 years ago
OW SHIT!!!! this sound is ULTRA INCREDIBLE. (for real)
thiagotecnico 3 years ago
wow, that was awesome :D
Idium86 3 years ago
This kind of techno shit makes me wanna dance with a strobe light on, and put my fingers inside of strange women...
Kimbo420 3 years ago
@Kimbo420 Women don't like being groped by perverts. It's called assault. Remember "Whatever we wear, wherever we go, Yes means yes and no means NO!"
Laura041974 2 years ago
That is beautiful. I couldn't dream of doing that with my P08!
nickeax 3 years ago
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Just to show what you don't do with arpeggiators. Thanks for the vid mate but you should be playing a pipe organ in church.
dtnyc5000 3 years ago
It's funny you should say that because just the other day I was speaking to an organist friend of mine suggesting he persuade his church to replace their pipe organ with a Jupiter-4. I think a Bach Chorale with a slow LFO filter sweep would be quite inspiring on a Sunday morning, don't you think?
maisonvague 3 years ago
pipe organ?
bitsdfg4 3 years ago
I couldn't say. We'd have to give it a try for sure! :D
dtnyc5000 3 years ago
@maisonvague Have you seen the ARP Quadra video, someone else replies that his preacher played one in church.
Laura041974 2 years ago
Haven't seen the video yet... but I'd LOVE to see a preacher playing an ARP Quadra in church! Haha. BTW, it looks like the original poster deleted his/her post. Oh well....
maisonvague 2 years ago
I think a polymoog would be good in Faure's Requiem!
Laura041974 2 years ago
Oh, yes! That would sound glorious!
maisonvague 2 years ago
i love it! thx
triggerb303 3 years ago
This is a professional you-tube demo of the 'now' recognised as cool 'jp4' thankyou! - watch ebay today and find them rocketing through the roof!!!!
NEILVANCE 3 years ago
Glory Be!
shaft9000 4 years ago
ORGASMIIIIIC!
oAKERo 4 years ago
suuuuuuuuuuperb Donniem
donniemartin 4 years ago
what kind of synthy is this?????
tonijn1969 4 years ago
It's a Roland Jupiter 4...the first Jupiter synth. This is what the BBC used a lot...especially the Dr. Who theme during the wonderful Tom Baker years.
xnonsuchx 4 years ago
cool cool cool
tonijn1969 4 years ago
My God,LET'S GIVE THIS SYNTH THE RECOGNITION IT DESERVES. Never realised JP4's sounded so dense,rich, and organic-only one VCO as well, though with a sub-oscillator too. Makes my JUNO 6O sound paper thin!
identti77 4 years ago
Very nice! Its a great demonstration of how the arpeggiator can be "played". It was pretty common in the 80's. Nice to see a demo of it.
carriersignal 4 years ago
Excelent
Barbetax 4 years ago
This is a great demo. Thanks for sharing it!
naturalkinds 4 years ago
how did u adjust your settings for that sound i wanna try that with my jupiter 4 or what patch
pauleyh 4 years ago
Sorry, I've already forgotten! LOL. I'm so lazy about writing down my patches. Terrible habit. One good thing about the Jupiter-4's limited patch memory is that it forces you to continually be creative.
maisonvague 4 years ago
oh
wow
so
cool!!!
halweezy 4 years ago
were would you be able to buy one now, i want this synth, vintage top of the line
thegrant 4 years ago
Well, I got mine off eBay, though I generally wouldn't recommend buying vintage synths this way, given the risk factor. I got lucky with mine. I honestly think the best way to buy vintage gear is the old fashioned way: that is, via small adverts in magazines, synth sites, local newspapers, etc. Sadly eBay has ruined the market for vintage gear with all the bidding wars, hype, etc. Fortunately however, the Jupiter-4 is not nearly as coveted as either the Jupiter-6 or Jupiter-8. Good luck!
maisonvague 4 years ago
How much should you pay for one? I've found one on ebay, £833 already. Are old synths too fragile to post? I can't find many in Norfolk.
Laura041974 2 years ago
In the two years since I wrote that the prices for Jupiter-4's have gone through the roof! £833 would be a bargain at this point! They are a bit fragile, yes, so I would try to avoid shipping... but sometimes it's unavoidable. Just make certain it is well packed ; )
maisonvague 2 years ago
It ended at over £1,000 and the winner bid in the last 6 seconds. Everything is more than the prices in the book. I've read warnings about buying without looking and listening, difficult on ebay. I don't want to spend a lot on one which breaks and can't be mended. Is it safer to go to a shop where they check it over? I only have room for one, hard to tell without trying it.
Laura041974 2 years ago
Laura
The going rate for a J4 in good condition is around £1200 mate.
Whatever you book says its far easier to just do a completed listings search on ebay and check real world prices.
Anything in life is worth what someone will pay. J4s ofter go for £1100-1200
Hope this helps
kolakube123 2 years ago
The book is "Analog Synthesizers" by Mark Jenkins. Everything is more than his pricelist! He says some are easier to mend than others but doesn't say which. Are some more robust and better made than others?
Laura041974 2 years ago
@kolakube123.. I got my Jupiter-4 for equivalent to $600 US, in nearly mint condition, with original chrome musicsheet stand hooked into the back, and original hard case included.. The inside was also checked and overhauled so it works perfectly.. I guess it was a good deal.
haikousei 1 year ago
@haikousei
There always good. Thanks for feeling the need to brag about it and tell us all.
kolakube123 1 year ago
@Laura041974.. You can get it cheaper than that.. I recently got a nearly mint condition Jupiter-4 with its original music sheet stand & original hard case included, everything working perfectly, for equivalent to about $600 US.
haikousei 1 year ago
@haikousei You're really lucky. Did you have to bid for it or reply to an ad? Where do you live? I can't find much. Gumtree and Craigslist have some but Sound on Sound is best. In Cash Converters in Norwich, they just stare blankly when I start asking!
Laura041974 1 year ago
@Laura041974. No bid. I just went to a regular used goods store and bought it. It was in nearly mint condition. Even wood sides had no scratches at all. I didn't expect it. I live near Roland Headquarters so there is a higher percent of people with old Roland synths in excellent condition, but most people want to keep theirs.
haikousei 1 year ago
NICE!
pflaff 4 years ago
this sounds nicer than any va i have heard...
MarcS4R 4 years ago
wow! what a sound... beautiful..... thanks for sharing!
Wyrehedd242 4 years ago
i have a quick question tho are you using your delay like you did with your other jp4 video??
caressxofxsteel 4 years ago
yes. the tempo of the delay is roughly set to the tempo of the arpeggiator. it's inexact -- but for me that adds to the character of the effect in this case. when working with virtual synths and delay effects i often opt not to "sync to MIDI" preferring to adjust the delay time by hand for similar reasons.
maisonvague 4 years ago
ah i see. thanks! I just posted 3 vids of me playin with my fantom x7 that i picked up about a week ago or so. let me know what you think of them :)
caressxofxsteel 4 years ago
im officially on the hunt for a jp4. along with a jp8, and oberheim's obx and ob8 haha
caressxofxsteel 4 years ago
That synth was also used by keyboardist Nick Rhodes in Duran Duran's "Rio" title track (the random arpeggiation was done on the Roland Jupiter 4).
Sulaco516 4 years ago
Add-on to comment:
I wonder if you can recreate and post a video of the random arpeggiation of "Rio" using the random mode on the Jupiter 4's arpeggiator with a C minor chord.
Sulaco516 4 years ago
I had two of these, both broken and i managed to make 1 working from the two. I'll never forget it powering up. Goosepimples!
XysteRST205 4 years ago
Roland's fattest machine !
gilwe 4 years ago
now sync it to midi ;-)
mediawardotcom 4 years ago
man nice synth
Fishmongerabc123 4 years ago
this was the synth used in M's 1979 hit pop musik
pauleyh 4 years ago
its like a futuristic piano sonata
kerodean 4 years ago
Very nice arpeggio's! And I had forgotten how good a JP4 can sound.
VintSynth 4 years ago
very nice! sounds a bit like ray lynch to me. looking forward to your next performance.
jimstone3 4 years ago
awesome!
lanswipe 4 years ago
Très beau, merci !
Very beautiful, thanks !
GruithuisenCityMan 4 years ago
Ah thanx ! The Jupiter 4 has a awesome sound love this machine will definetely my next synth ! Try to get one, but the price nowadays is totally overpriced. But i really want one !! Love this sound ! please make some more !!
TR0jAX 4 years ago
what is this box on the jupiter 4 ?
TR0jAX 4 years ago
that's the electro-harmonix memory man delay
maisonvague 4 years ago