Watt are we doing about alternatives? The alternatives are already here! humans are to benighted to embrace them we all seem to be happy consuming and poisoning the planet.The sooner this filthy shit runs out the better off all life on the planet will be.Consume be silent die.
Actually if you look at staticstics from the CIA and World Bank, the UAE is to run out in 2015, Saudi ARabia in 2020. Bahrain already ran out of oil and Qatar will run out in 2013...
here is the big scam: ARAMCO all saudi oil is 50/50 split between american oil company standard oil and the king. so opec is a sham. acutually they should only sell to us or we invade them
Those muddy oil sands in Canada now supply America with more oil than any other country...20% of America's oil...and nobody knows this. It's news to everybody.
Also the oil sands are second only to Saudi Arabia in reserves. We can produce for almost 200 years, there's so much oil there.
Your numbers are incorrect. The total tar sand oil production is only 1.1 million barrels a day. The US uses 20 million, which would be only 5%.
Besides, tar sands are expensive to mine so sure there is 200 years of oil there, but it's going to cost a lot of money and use a lot of natural gas energy to produce.
The issue is not just the amount of oil, but the cost of oil. It's the end of cheap oil that really matters.
Non-sensible question. I have no use for either a gun or a solar panel.
I would like to see the use of oil to seriously decline, but then again It would be great for populations to naturally decline and economies to be focused on stability instead of growth.
The whole world needs a re-think, a whole new concept...
A genius plan, perhaps hundreds of years away, after many more wars and suffering. Someone will eventually come up with a plan.
so your saying use everthing up do nothing polute and detroy nature and in some distant future after many wars but behand some guy killed u with a ak-74 because you had petrol in your SUV that he could not afford, your kids that don't know that tomatoes don't grow in factory jars will starve and cant heat up anything because they had no power coming from your solar panel ,that you didn't buy is ok 4 you.... you think this wont happen in your lifetime .. that will be the natural decline
cheap energy is of the past. the middle-classed guy is gonna have a hell of a job to pay for transportation as in petrol/electricity and food/water ... it will all start to change in our lifetime and Wars and social unrest riots and police state methods as well as starving and dieing is what you will have to come to terms with. it wont be like I'll tank here up and go shopping anymore ....
as for muddy oil sands energy extraction is something like 5 to 1, it payis the more oil rises in price but wont save future world demands, they are even building nuclear power plants to have enough energy to extract and process the stuff ....polluting more and more clean & fresh water for generation to come ...200 years my ass more like 10 year as soon as the demand rises and that will happen
If the planet has x number of years left of oil, why are the top 20% wealthiest money grabbers not conserving? Its got to take alot of electricity to power homes that look like hotels, and fly around the world in jets, and start wars. What a huge waste of resources that is when resources are running out. It doesnt make any sense. I thought you guys were big on green. Something is wrong with this picture. Mid to long term goals are not good enough, people are pissed.
not the point, the point is that oil is not powering the background, the trucks and stuff yes but again that's not the point, also you probable drive a prisus or some other hybrid shitty car.
Abilityof markets to compensate through price rises and currency implications of a weakening dollar is but one issue, whereas I suggest the accelerator and multiplier effects which will kick in are an important consideration which highlights the inability of Capitalism to deal with anything other than continued growth. Didn't the pope recently make a profound statement to say unfettered 'Capitalism' (and greed) are not the ONLY way
Oil IS running out. There's loads left, but the easy to get at stuff is gone. That's why the price is going up so much. In 20-50 years there will still be a lot in the ground but it will be so expensive to extract that renewable energy will be cheaper.
The majority of farmland in the world has no nutrients. It is just a sponge we pour things made out of oil into to be able to grow food. When there is no more oil there is no more food. Renewable energy can't solve that.
No it cant solve that, but nobody is asking it to. Artificial fertilizers can be replaced by natural fertilizers from the ocean , animals, swamps, and human compost. And there will still be enough oil around to produce the ammonia for some crops. If we stop growing corn just to feed it to cows, we can grow much less artificial fertalized crops. Dont be an alarmist sheep.
I am not an alarmist sheep. When the Soviet Union collapsed N. Korea lost their oil supply and tried to get by on exactly the types of things you are suggesting and it was a total disaster. They are still begging us for oil. Look it up. Google eating fossil fuel for info on what you can and cannot do without hydrocarbon fuel.
"When there is no more oil there is no more food. Renewable energy can't solve that."
You're misinformed. None of these things except current pesticides are inherently based on oil. Any replacement for oil that is equally cheap would do just fine; but oil has some huge shoes to fill for any potential replacement.
You did not read my post in it's entirety. It is all made from hydrocarbon fuels not specifically oil. I really don't have time to sit around and make stuff up. The price of food is tied directly to the price of oil and we don't have to actually run out for the fun to begin.
Watt are we doing about alternatives? The alternatives are already here! humans are to benighted to embrace them we all seem to be happy consuming and poisoning the planet.The sooner this filthy shit runs out the better off all life on the planet will be.Consume be silent die.
2karriizman 1 year ago
China is cutting energy deals around the world, pipelines, buying into tar sands, buying land in other countries. We aren't....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago 3
Good story... We need more stories like this to get people moving in the right direction.
jcanivan 1 year ago
Google "Quadri-Track ZCT"
WTCnucleardemolition 2 years ago
Actually if you look at staticstics from the CIA and World Bank, the UAE is to run out in 2015, Saudi ARabia in 2020. Bahrain already ran out of oil and Qatar will run out in 2013...
Bozewani 2 years ago
here is the big scam: ARAMCO all saudi oil is 50/50 split between american oil company standard oil and the king. so opec is a sham. acutually they should only sell to us or we invade them
Rico8458 2 years ago
Those muddy oil sands in Canada now supply America with more oil than any other country...20% of America's oil...and nobody knows this. It's news to everybody.
Also the oil sands are second only to Saudi Arabia in reserves. We can produce for almost 200 years, there's so much oil there.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
Your numbers are incorrect. The total tar sand oil production is only 1.1 million barrels a day. The US uses 20 million, which would be only 5%.
Besides, tar sands are expensive to mine so sure there is 200 years of oil there, but it's going to cost a lot of money and use a lot of natural gas energy to produce.
The issue is not just the amount of oil, but the cost of oil. It's the end of cheap oil that really matters.
lidarman2 3 years ago 8
I think he meant to say 20% of our IMPORTED oil comes from Canada. Which is a correct statement.
ALP5050 1 year ago
your gonna be the history proof about the extinction in the age of the hydro-carbon man.
Answer this question quickly, I'll give you $700 what would you buy: A) AK47 or B)Solar-panel
SCTV 3 years ago
ACTV
Non-sensible question. I have no use for either a gun or a solar panel.
I would like to see the use of oil to seriously decline, but then again It would be great for populations to naturally decline and economies to be focused on stability instead of growth.
The whole world needs a re-think, a whole new concept...
A genius plan, perhaps hundreds of years away, after many more wars and suffering. Someone will eventually come up with a plan.
Growth of populations and industry is old hat
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
so your saying use everthing up do nothing polute and detroy nature and in some distant future after many wars but behand some guy killed u with a ak-74 because you had petrol in your SUV that he could not afford, your kids that don't know that tomatoes don't grow in factory jars will starve and cant heat up anything because they had no power coming from your solar panel ,that you didn't buy is ok 4 you.... you think this wont happen in your lifetime .. that will be the natural decline
SCTV 3 years ago
cheap energy is of the past. the middle-classed guy is gonna have a hell of a job to pay for transportation as in petrol/electricity and food/water ... it will all start to change in our lifetime and Wars and social unrest riots and police state methods as well as starving and dieing is what you will have to come to terms with. it wont be like I'll tank here up and go shopping anymore ....
SCTV 3 years ago
as for muddy oil sands energy extraction is something like 5 to 1, it payis the more oil rises in price but wont save future world demands, they are even building nuclear power plants to have enough energy to extract and process the stuff ....polluting more and more clean & fresh water for generation to come ...200 years my ass more like 10 year as soon as the demand rises and that will happen
SCTV 3 years ago
I see that you are for change now and I applaud.
If many millions of you exist and are ready to sacrifice, there is hope.
I use about 38 litres of gas a month and try to keep it way down.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
If the planet has x number of years left of oil, why are the top 20% wealthiest money grabbers not conserving? Its got to take alot of electricity to power homes that look like hotels, and fly around the world in jets, and start wars. What a huge waste of resources that is when resources are running out. It doesnt make any sense. I thought you guys were big on green. Something is wrong with this picture. Mid to long term goals are not good enough, people are pissed.
ln4359 3 years ago
i wonder how much oil is powering those screens behind the anchor man?
videotape 4 years ago
oil isnt used for electricity its coal or some sort of burning heat ,
webduelist 3 years ago
What about the oil powered machines used to mine the coal? To transport it on trains that run on diesel?
ALP5050 1 year ago
not the point, the point is that oil is not powering the background, the trucks and stuff yes but again that's not the point, also you probable drive a prisus or some other hybrid shitty car.
webduelist 1 year ago
Peak oil and discussions of our energy future are what we do at The Oil Drum--we hope you will stop by. theoildrum dot com.
profgoose 4 years ago
Abilityof markets to compensate through price rises and currency implications of a weakening dollar is but one issue, whereas I suggest the accelerator and multiplier effects which will kick in are an important consideration which highlights the inability of Capitalism to deal with anything other than continued growth. Didn't the pope recently make a profound statement to say unfettered 'Capitalism' (and greed) are not the ONLY way
grokked 4 years ago
Go back to bed everyone. Nothing to see hear.
Bushy has got you covered. Look the footy's on.
The end is nigh
cooney24 4 years ago
*SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ*
-won't you join us in profiting from other people's suffering?-
Tareq88 4 years ago
human life first ... think logically
msgg81 4 years ago
"Will lead to wars?" Excuse me but isn't that the reason Bush attacked Iraq? How many have died for Bush oil deals?
wiskawind 4 years ago
it will never run out its made out of fossil rotting stuff and so.
but an alternative source is always good
msgg81 4 years ago
Oil IS running out. There's loads left, but the easy to get at stuff is gone. That's why the price is going up so much. In 20-50 years there will still be a lot in the ground but it will be so expensive to extract that renewable energy will be cheaper.
londonalicante 4 years ago
The majority of farmland in the world has no nutrients. It is just a sponge we pour things made out of oil into to be able to grow food. When there is no more oil there is no more food. Renewable energy can't solve that.
crazycatfguy 4 years ago
No it cant solve that, but nobody is asking it to. Artificial fertilizers can be replaced by natural fertilizers from the ocean , animals, swamps, and human compost. And there will still be enough oil around to produce the ammonia for some crops. If we stop growing corn just to feed it to cows, we can grow much less artificial fertalized crops. Dont be an alarmist sheep.
guerone 4 years ago
I am not an alarmist sheep. When the Soviet Union collapsed N. Korea lost their oil supply and tried to get by on exactly the types of things you are suggesting and it was a total disaster. They are still begging us for oil. Look it up. Google eating fossil fuel for info on what you can and cannot do without hydrocarbon fuel.
crazycatfguy 4 years ago
"When there is no more oil there is no more food. Renewable energy can't solve that."
You're misinformed. None of these things except current pesticides are inherently based on oil. Any replacement for oil that is equally cheap would do just fine; but oil has some huge shoes to fill for any potential replacement.
soylentgreenb 4 years ago
You did not read my post in it's entirety. It is all made from hydrocarbon fuels not specifically oil. I really don't have time to sit around and make stuff up. The price of food is tied directly to the price of oil and we don't have to actually run out for the fun to begin.
crazycatfguy 4 years ago
they been saying the oil is about to run out since the 1920s, your crazy conspiracy theories are false.
KripDrip 2 months ago